Dude skill is a different aspect of it. If something can be equally as powerful as something else without needing equal amount of skill to use effectively then the high skill dependant strat is worse than the low skill dependant one.
@@irregular_banana You're wrong though. A bad player with a top tier weapon will lose to a good player with a low tier weapon almost every time. What you said is cope that mid-tier players tell themselves.
@@irregular_banana i know of people who intentionally handicap themselves to minimum level Wretch with only a club and can no-hit dlc bosses and dominate pvp. if theres one thing about the souls community you can be sure of, it's that someone will always be the strongest while running around naked with an un-upgraded starting weapon
@ you consider fighting pre-programmed bots that can be exploited the same way as players. in pvp, different things (characters, weapons, builds etc etc) require different amount of skill to perform in the same level.
Not surprising, the boss fight entrance was literally right there but the host chose to fight Stevie thinking he would get an easy kill with his 'gank squad.' 😅
The gesture of praise of acknowledgement from the cooperators felt so wrong and yet so right! 😂😂😂 Phantoms: "No, Host! You dumbass! Why?!" *stare in disbelief* Also phantoms: "Well played, Sir Invader!" *applauds* 🤣🤣🤣
I always think about mage as the best build to invade. Or you are a totaly spammy boy that can't combo anithing and use rock sling and comet azur in pvp, or you are a carian battle mage full of style!
Waifu is a woman from Argentina, her economic mobility is very limited so she'll say any kind of stupid shit to get clicks and views while at the same time being absolute dogwater at the game.
Bro not only are they viable I would say at high levels they are the strongest build for invasions in the game. But the caveat is that they have a high skills floor and ceiling so it takes time to get good with it but when you are it’s beastly
The way i see it, there are two types of wizards, practical and proformance. Proformance uses the big flashy spells that, while effective on npcs, are not the best in a duel. Practical use the less flashy spells that are a bitch in duels but dont look very good.
@@stevie31 they're crazy. It's probably because they're fighting 1v1 in the colosseum. It's slightly less viable in that situation kind of but in Invasions magic slaps especially if you're on the ganking side.
@@Invaders_Unite Yea i definitely wouldn’t bring this to a tournament but i saw a big youtuber saying that these builds are bad in invasions which is hilarious
@@stevie31 some people just don't know what they're talking about sometimes what are you gonna do 😂. Literally any build is viable because I've had success with pretty much every build.
It depends. Mage is not viable in duels, because melee much more powerful. Also, mage is harder on average than melee. The archaic spell management system + a lower power level (proven by tourney results) makes mage harder to play. Also, you kinda need to be good melee to be good mage. You don't need to know anything about mage to be good melee.
02:34 Did he think you were a npc invader? haha wtf? Why did he stand there like, as if he expected to be able to "reset" the world. That would of not workt even IF you were a npc, from what I can recall in any Souls game. Right? PS: I loved! The opera like music ^^ Atleast the two first once :)
LITERALLY, no one said ever that mages aren't viable, quite the opposite, in every fromsoftware game everyone complain that mage build is "playing easy mode"
@@OneTomato yea definitely. It’s just in PvP where it feels difficult to play a mage, since you’re fighting something that can actually predict what you’re doing. But if you practice and have a good setup, you’ll have far more options than any melee fighter
Hey, I just found out about your channel, both your choice in music and gameplay are impeccable and a treat to watch. Cheers! EDIT: What a coincidence, I just started playing Code Vein, nice.
Well as much as I adore playing mage I have to agree with the statement somewhat. In the sense that if two players of equal skill clash the weapon user will most of the time come out on top. Pretty simple to beat a mage actually... rock high poise, take out cleanrot stick with rot grease and trade into them the moment a cast starts. Counter dmg plus spear talisman does the rest while rot finishes the last bit and keeps pressure up. I hate it but that's how it is. 😑
god your videos have been inspiring me a lot lately to go back to my full casting int/fth build, it makes me wanna try it with pvp again lol what would you recommend when it comes to spell load out/order? I'm not saying what exact spells necessarily, but more like what KIND of spells should be slotted next to each other?
While Mages are very viable, I just wish that Seals/Staves by themselves weren't so bland. No Affinities No Ash of War Variety L2, L1, and R2 are all essentially dead buttons. (You're basically using a glorified tool item in the hand slot.) Also not a fan of Cast Speed being tied to Dexterity instead of Mind, as the former makes absolutely no sense. In this context, the Radagon Icon Talisman and similar effects are just another tax on Casters. (You don't see Martial builds leveling Faith to increase their equip load, but apparently the same issue applied to Casters is fine.) I'd gladly change out the Mass/Flock Talismans and similar equipment spell damage buffs for these changes.
@ivanvoloder8114 "In this context, the Radagon Icon Talisman *and similar effects* are just another tax on Casters." Every single type of Cast Speed increase in Elden Ring is a tax in some form against Casters, instead of naturally being increased when leveling a relevant Caster stat like Mind. If it's not a Dexterity tax, it's a FP tax, a Talisman Slot tax, a Hand Slot tax, and/or even a damage absorption penalty tax. The entire setup of the Cast Speed mechanic is designed specifically to punish any non-Dexterity focused Caster or Spellblade.
@@Battleguild Well to be honest that could be said for all caster items since DS 1. I remeber that in DS 1 there was a ring that increases spell usage, but cuts down your health by 50%. In DS 3 you get Dusk Crow tgat increases your magic dmg, but you are more vunerable to magic. I played all mage builds on DS series and ER and although you have a point considering mage items, mages are the strongest in ER compared to previous games.
This is why I loved Bloodborne just making all of its spells infinite use items, you dont need a catalyst to use them AND You can effectively have any of them at your disposal at any time (Seriously, why do mages have to attune spells at bonfires/graces, thats like making it so you cant swap melee weapons outside of a checkpoint, which is even more baffling since ALOT of Ashes of War are just effectively copy pasted sorceries and incantations! why do I have to attune glintblade phalanx at a grace, when I can just as easily pull out rogiers rapier from my infinite sized inventory??) I dont see what this is supposed to balance, especially because spell slots are no longer a stat you invest into. Is it really not enough that mages have to allocate healing charges just to maintain a damage threshold that melee builds effectively get for free? imagine having to allocate healing flasks for STAMINA regeneration. Especially considering melee builds often get equally as effective ranged options, like bows which they can literally hold THOUSANDS of arrows worth of ammunition between the different categories, and if they run out they can always just CRAFT MORE on the fly, bows that give you the ability to more precisely free aim your shots than you can with spells by the way. It just seems like fromsoft wants to arbitrarily kneecap mages and make playing as one as inconvenient as possible for no discernable reason.
@@ivanvoloder8114 Dusk Crown Ring grants additional casts on top of your already earned spell casts, at the cost of your maximum HP. (All Souls/Elden Ring has some version of this.) This is fine, as it's giving you a reward for an investment that you've already made. You likely already have a high level in Attunement/Mind to take advantage of it. The Clutch/Scorpion Rings increase certain elemental damage types at the cost of increased incoming damage. I'm fine with this, as you are accepting a penalty to increase the damage you are already leveling a core stat for it. Elden Ring's Casters are powerful in part of the fact that they have a ridiculous amount of effects that increase spell damage with Catalysts, Talismans, Armor, and various temporary buffs. I honestly *HATE* this as a Caster main. I'd rather see more mechanics and gameplay improvements for Casters, rather than having over bloated damage numbers. My biggest beef with Cast Speed, is that unlike everything that was mentioned above, you have to go outside of your build to increase Cast Speed. You are already leveling Mind for FP, you are already leveling your offensive Caster stat for damage, but for Cast Speed? You need to level something that's normally not needed for your build? Absolute nonsense is what that is. Can you imagine how many players would gripe if they had to level Faith for their Equip Load? They'd be demanding why they have to level some arbitrary stat for a build that doesn't even want to use Incantations.
Duelists. :) ANd they're right, mages not viable in duels. Melee much more powerful, even if you ban best melee setups. But mage is good for invasions!
"I like pure magic and enjoyed watching it. I'm currently at rl60 and was I invaded if I can build pure magic? Or is this only for higher levels? Because I haven't seen any pure magic builds at rl60 on RUclips!"
I love invading at lvl 80, how could I adapt this build into that level? Could I get away with 45 vigor and 50 int? Also which starting class would be the best for it?
@@skullcat1378 Ive seen alot of people do vigor at 40 for lvl 80. You could also use the amber medallion +3 from the dlc for more vigor. Astrologer would probably be best for that build, i personally use vagabond for every build
@stevie31 Thanks for the reply! I'll try and test if 40 vigor is enough, if not I might go with 45. Thanks for inspiring me to do my first mage invasion build!
what are you talking about all i see is mages in elden ring or str builds. its old seeing 24/7 blue spam. by the way their is a staff sword in the dlc. its really good. tho im glad you using the sword spells its nice to see it.
Here's the thing, Stevie (because I see you made this video somewhat in response to the one I made). In a game where you'll be fighting 200+ ms people most of the time, a build that can be countered simply by spamming rolls on high latency is not viable (in those scenarios at least, which can constitute for 60% of your encounters). Can you mix-up low-latency regular pvers with a pure mage build and completely destroy them? Yeah, of course you can. However, you need much more practice, setups and knowledge than any other melee setup. There's no reason to not simply pick Rakshasa's and call it a day. You CAN succeed (against groups of PvErs and some not-so-great gankers), but you require a higher skill level (and pray to god the latency is low). That's why I believe that, while you still can win, they're not as viable as most melee builds (especially STR or DEX, where you have tools to fight high latency). You said yourself that you wouldn't bring this build to a tourney- it's simply not viable against better players, much less on high latency. Still, always fun to see good mage plays. Have a good day.
@@OnlyWaifuYT Hey i really appreciate the comment. Yea i see what you’re saying, i just dont experience too many latent players on ps5 all that often (not saying i never do) I really just made the video to show how they can work pretty well in invasions if you have some good spell mix ups going.
I look at invasions, what do I see ? Heafty pots, golem arrows, aoe ashes at every turn against 200+ ms people. Big hitboxes and burst damage will always be useful, and they're not the height of skill expression... a good 80% of people will die. Idk why you bring tourneys, the polar opposite of invasions where half the game is banned including every good invasion option...
@@glatykoffi6672 Because he mentioned it in another comment. And the difference is that Hefty Pots and Golem Arrows need no stat requirements. AoE Ashes usually have hyper-armor to trade and secure hits (such as waves of Darkness). They're considered better for a reason.
I’ve played as faith strength builds, dex faith builds, quality builds, and yet the one build that consistently dominates in pvp has always been my mage character. Spell blade combos and mix ups with projectiles and melee. Of course when you have a mage that actually knows how to fight you are definitely up against a formidable enemy!
I keep coming back to Int-Faith combo-focused omnicasting. It started with the “oh I wonder how difficult it is to use magic only, no melee” and it turns out it’s totally possible and super fun - even at lower levels you wouldn’t think of at first.
Who is sayimg this? As far as I remeber didnt the whole Elden Ring community hate mages and call them no skill n shit? Mind you, im notvsaying this myself just confused
OnlyWaifu had made a video saying that mages weren’t good in invasions and pvp. Not hating on him, he has good info in alot of his videos, but the examples he shows in his mage video could have been better.
Many people downplay magic builds, but they are very good for invasions for sure, because of the high burst damage. In duels against competent people, completely not viable. And in pve everything from bare fists to greatshield only is viable.
![Sekiro: No Hesitation [ All Bosses Epic Montage ]](/img/1.gif)
I can't wait until the broader community discovers that literally everything is viable if you learn how to use it.
Dude skill is a different aspect of it. If something can be equally as powerful as something else without needing equal amount of skill to use effectively then the high skill dependant strat is worse than the low skill dependant one.
I always used sword and big shield but apparently everyone discovered it only against PCR lmao
This community it's silly at times
@@irregular_banana You're wrong though. A bad player with a top tier weapon will lose to a good player with a low tier weapon almost every time. What you said is cope that mid-tier players tell themselves.
@@irregular_banana i know of people who intentionally handicap themselves to minimum level Wretch with only a club and can no-hit dlc bosses and dominate pvp. if theres one thing about the souls community you can be sure of, it's that someone will always be the strongest while running around naked with an un-upgraded starting weapon
@ you consider fighting pre-programmed bots that can be exploited the same way as players. in pvp, different things (characters, weapons, builds etc etc) require different amount of skill to perform in the same level.
"Mages aren't via-" Whatever. Go my Shard Spiral.
Warriors will see you cast a magical blade and say “he have naught the might to kill them himself”
Code Vein soundtracks bringing back memories😢❤
memories of a bone white maze with repeating assets and mobs that loved to yeet themselves off the edge
We can parry our enemies. But never the feels. 😔
The soundtrack and art style were peak. Gameplay was dodoo water tho could have been an amazing game if combat was done right
@@mastermenthe It has a story, art, characters, sountrack you know? Tha'ts what sticks to memory...
@@lbentosoares4 disappointment lingers longer than joy
So Many Rune arcs that they go to the chest is CRAZY to an offliner
Maybe become the red guy for a day.
4:50 not the applause from cooperators💀😭
Host: Gets murdered
Phantoms:
Not surprising, the boss fight entrance was literally right there but the host chose to fight Stevie thinking he would get an easy kill with his 'gank squad.' 😅
The gesture of praise of acknowledgement from the cooperators felt so wrong and yet so right!
😂😂😂
Phantoms: "No, Host! You dumbass! Why?!" *stare in disbelief*
Also phantoms: "Well played, Sir Invader!" *applauds*
🤣🤣🤣
I want to play code vein again just by hearing the music 😂
the code vein music goes hard
Based Code Vein OST
To this day, I wonder why there are no seals that let you cast the weapons. I wanna fight like I'm Morgott.
10:48 great showcase for that spell, gravity kill with the gravitational missile then again as a finisher, brilliant as always!
Your combo with the spiral and AN ABSOLUTE HUGE COMET in the face of the guy coming by side never gets old! I learned it from you!
yeah, that onlywaifu video ticked me off too lmao
@@Munnwort Haha yea same
I always think about mage as the best build to invade. Or you are a totaly spammy boy that can't combo anithing and use rock sling and comet azur in pvp, or you are a carian battle mage full of style!
@@FolgenNamp Love mages for invasions and i also love knights with intelligence infused weapons
Imagine having ranni as channel mascot and not make any mage pvp🤡
Waifu is a woman from Argentina, her economic mobility is very limited so she'll say any kind of stupid shit to get clicks and views while at the same time being absolute dogwater at the game.
The carian piercer through the wall never stops looking 1000iq
Bro i fckn knew it was code vein
Very nice music choices! and overall a nice demonstration of magic in PvP.
Lore Accurate Graven Witch
Did you think we summoned magic swords to open letters more efficiently?
Enough MP and your staff becomes your blade!
May be odd to say but the music gave me some enlightenment. Thank you.
Past the ugly, life is still beautiful and some of us take the simple things around us for granted.
Bro not only are they viable I would say at high levels they are the strongest build for invasions in the game. But the caveat is that they have a high skills floor and ceiling so it takes time to get good with it but when you are it’s beastly
@@joesheridan9451I agree. This is by far my best invasion build
i would say the opposite.
i dont know if its just elden ring or how you present your videos but every video i watch is just absolutely enthralling
@@advvo9880 I upload every elden ring video with HDR, that helps alot
Code Vein as a background music choice is just peak
Master, I will study this video diligently 🙏
Damn, I wasn't expecting feels today with the new upload 😿Excellent choice of music
Big blue sword magic, my beloved ❤
The way i see it, there are two types of wizards, practical and proformance. Proformance uses the big flashy spells that, while effective on npcs, are not the best in a duel. Practical use the less flashy spells that are a bitch in duels but dont look very good.
Yo bruh that switch up between slicer and piercer is GOAT 🐐
Quite enjoyable, thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bro you have such good taste in music. I might have to go back and finish code vein now.
10:00 love it when a host's ambush fails lol
@@pitshoster401 Yea i definitely couldn’t see that out of place statue in the corner lol
That was.. magical.
Anybody who says mage aren't viable is a madman. I actually had someone say one time that melee was easier 😂. Cool video GG
@@Invaders_Unite Ive seen alot of people say this lol
@@stevie31 they're crazy. It's probably because they're fighting 1v1 in the colosseum. It's slightly less viable in that situation kind of but in Invasions magic slaps especially if you're on the ganking side.
@@Invaders_Unite Yea i definitely wouldn’t bring this to a tournament but i saw a big youtuber saying that these builds are bad in invasions which is hilarious
@@stevie31 some people just don't know what they're talking about sometimes what are you gonna do 😂. Literally any build is viable because I've had success with pretty much every build.
It depends. Mage is not viable in duels, because melee much more powerful. Also, mage is harder on average than melee. The archaic spell management system + a lower power level (proven by tourney results) makes mage harder to play. Also, you kinda need to be good melee to be good mage. You don't need to know anything about mage to be good melee.
as someone who heavily relies on sorceries and incantations, thank you
@@DolusVulpes You’re welcome
That was just fun to watch. Mage power 🧙♀
@@jamaicanbutter 🧙
Love the combos badredman
My frenzy/beastial incantation mage is a menace! It uses blue dancer charm so light roll keeps me out of trouble. (quality faith hybrid build)
Good music, good fashion, good gameplay. Solid kudos (:
02:34 Did he think you were a npc invader? haha wtf? Why did he stand there like, as if he expected to be able to "reset" the world. That would of not workt even IF you were a npc, from what I can recall in any Souls game. Right?
PS: I loved! The opera like music ^^ Atleast the two first once :)
@@geraltgrey-mane695 I think he gave up lol
@@stevie31 lol...
The sauce-ups were peak 🤌🏾
I just love the magic in this game. I don't care if it's viable or not - it's beautiful enough.
The best, Keeping up with the good vids!
“Mages arent visble” said no one ever. This is ELDEN RING
What it must be like to watch one of these vids only to see yourself and 2 friends get expertly owned by a caster 😂
“Mages aren’t viable” said no one ever. Every PVP player I know complains about mages lol.
In 1 vs 3 mages are pretty shitty.. but if you are a ganker well of course mage Will be amezing
@ depends on how you play, there are plenty of big AOE spells that are great at antigank, like gravity missile and ice storm
LITERALLY, no one said ever that mages aren't viable, quite the opposite, in every fromsoftware game everyone complain that mage build is "playing easy mode"
@@OneTomato yea definitely. It’s just in PvP where it feels difficult to play a mage, since you’re fighting something that can actually predict what you’re doing. But if you practice and have a good setup, you’ll have far more options than any melee fighter
Memory Of The Lost + Your mage gameplay hits different...
You sir are a mage of the finest quality
Hey, I just found out about your channel, both your choice in music and gameplay are impeccable and a treat to watch.
Cheers!
EDIT: What a coincidence, I just started playing Code Vein, nice.
@@rokva5771 Thanks im glad to hear that and code vein was a pretty cool game
Well played great one.
Nice soundtrack
Damn the music was really amazing. Gonna have to look it up.
Code Vein music!!! ❤
man, I can't wait for code vein 2
I guess the better level range now is 160 and above as well
@@hohohoupufuru Is there going to be a code vein 2 ?
12:57 That anti air witch slap ahahah
@@Lunadherent That was nasty lol
It's beautiful ✨ all those blue and blood
Thankyou for the video Stevie
I dpnt think a single person has ever said that before
OnlyWaifu did
2:15 you said sit down to lil bro lmaoooo
10:42 lol dude no way
great video why would u mind dropping the links to the music u used sounds really cool
@@azizihazem224 Theyre in the description
@@stevie31 aight thx alot
Based Code Vein music
Well as much as I adore playing mage I have to agree with the statement somewhat.
In the sense that if two players of equal skill clash the weapon user will most of the time come out on top.
Pretty simple to beat a mage actually... rock high poise, take out cleanrot stick with rot grease and trade into them the moment a cast starts. Counter dmg plus spear talisman does the rest while rot finishes the last bit and keeps pressure up.
I hate it but that's how it is. 😑
Dope (as usual). Favorite rune level for invasions? Also what's in your physick?
@@batozorange I really like 168. My physick is Magic shrouded cracked tear and Cerulean hidden tear
Nothing is unviable if you just don't suck at the game.
OH HELL NAW NOT THE CODE VEIN TRACK
nier soundtrack featured 💔
absolute cinema
god your videos have been inspiring me a lot lately to go back to my full casting int/fth build, it makes me wanna try it with pvp again lol
what would you recommend when it comes to spell load out/order? I'm not saying what exact spells necessarily, but more like what KIND of spells should be slotted next to each other?
3:25 don’t walk into a blizzard
I've had a crazy amount of fun invading with light-rolling level 200 mage builds. 99 int ftw.
@@everything-narrative Been wanting to try a level 200 mage for awhile
@@stevie31go for it, it’s a blast.
I’d recommend 40 dex + radagon’s icon for max casting speed.
absolute peak
Hey bro great vid whats your build? Would love to make one similar to yours to try it in invasions
@@Cookiemuncher-vn4rl Stats are at the end of the video
While Mages are very viable, I just wish that Seals/Staves by themselves weren't so bland.
No Affinities
No Ash of War Variety
L2, L1, and R2 are all essentially dead buttons. (You're basically using a glorified tool item in the hand slot.)
Also not a fan of Cast Speed being tied to Dexterity instead of Mind, as the former makes absolutely no sense. In this context, the Radagon Icon Talisman and similar effects are just another tax on Casters.
(You don't see Martial builds leveling Faith to increase their equip load, but apparently the same issue applied to Casters is fine.)
I'd gladly change out the Mass/Flock Talismans and similar equipment spell damage buffs for these changes.
You don't need to level dex for casting speed. Just equip Azur's staff in offhand to get the casting speed bonus like this guy in the video.
@ivanvoloder8114
"In this context, the Radagon Icon Talisman *and similar effects* are just another tax on Casters."
Every single type of Cast Speed increase in Elden Ring is a tax in some form against Casters, instead of naturally being increased when leveling a relevant Caster stat like Mind.
If it's not a Dexterity tax, it's a FP tax, a Talisman Slot tax, a Hand Slot tax, and/or even a damage absorption penalty tax.
The entire setup of the Cast Speed mechanic is designed specifically to punish any non-Dexterity focused Caster or Spellblade.
@@Battleguild Well to be honest that could be said for all caster items since DS 1. I remeber that in DS 1 there was a ring that increases spell usage, but cuts down your health by 50%. In DS 3 you get Dusk Crow tgat increases your magic dmg, but you are more vunerable to magic. I played all mage builds on DS series and ER and although you have a point considering mage items, mages are the strongest in ER compared to previous games.
This is why I loved Bloodborne just making all of its spells infinite use items, you dont need a catalyst to use them AND You can effectively have any of them at your disposal at any time (Seriously, why do mages have to attune spells at bonfires/graces, thats like making it so you cant swap melee weapons outside of a checkpoint, which is even more baffling since ALOT of Ashes of War are just effectively copy pasted sorceries and incantations! why do I have to attune glintblade phalanx at a grace, when I can just as easily pull out rogiers rapier from my infinite sized inventory??)
I dont see what this is supposed to balance, especially because spell slots are no longer a stat you invest into. Is it really not enough that mages have to allocate healing charges just to maintain a damage threshold that melee builds effectively get for free? imagine having to allocate healing flasks for STAMINA regeneration. Especially considering melee builds often get equally as effective ranged options, like bows which they can literally hold THOUSANDS of arrows worth of ammunition between the different categories, and if they run out they can always just CRAFT MORE on the fly, bows that give you the ability to more precisely free aim your shots than you can with spells by the way. It just seems like fromsoft wants to arbitrarily kneecap mages and make playing as one as inconvenient as possible for no discernable reason.
@@ivanvoloder8114
Dusk Crown Ring grants additional casts on top of your already earned spell casts, at the cost of your maximum HP.
(All Souls/Elden Ring has some version of this.)
This is fine, as it's giving you a reward for an investment that you've already made. You likely already have a high level in Attunement/Mind to take advantage of it.
The Clutch/Scorpion Rings increase certain elemental damage types at the cost of increased incoming damage.
I'm fine with this, as you are accepting a penalty to increase the damage you are already leveling a core stat for it.
Elden Ring's Casters are powerful in part of the fact that they have a ridiculous amount of effects that increase spell damage with Catalysts, Talismans, Armor, and various temporary buffs.
I honestly *HATE* this as a Caster main. I'd rather see more mechanics and gameplay improvements for Casters, rather than having over bloated damage numbers.
My biggest beef with Cast Speed, is that unlike everything that was mentioned above, you have to go outside of your build to increase Cast Speed.
You are already leveling Mind for FP, you are already leveling your offensive Caster stat for damage, but for Cast Speed? You need to level something that's normally not needed for your build?
Absolute nonsense is what that is.
Can you imagine how many players would gripe if they had to level Faith for their Equip Load? They'd be demanding why they have to level some arbitrary stat for a build that doesn't even want to use Incantations.
11:31 if that bait spell would have killed the host...
Ok but that one host you fought gave an idea - why not try Magma Wizard/earth. Just straight up yeeting rocks, golem fist, fire magick/pyro lol
Sick vid, but idk who’s ever said that video title before
Duelists. :) ANd they're right, mages not viable in duels. Melee much more powerful, even if you ban best melee setups. But mage is good for invasions!
Это прекрасно.
10:43 time for some mushroom kebab!
Great gameplay video Stevie
You are one of the few true great mage player on RUclips
@@bulle0823 Thank you
Elden ring made me finally play Int for the first time since ds1
Code Vein looking kinda different in this video
"I like pure magic and enjoyed watching it. I'm currently at rl60 and was I invaded if I can build pure magic? Or is this only for higher levels? Because I haven't seen any pure magic builds at rl60 on RUclips!"
Ive never done a pure mage at that low a level but you can go to cadmansons channel and ask him, ive seen him do low level mage builds before
I love invading at lvl 80, how could I adapt this build into that level? Could I get away with 45 vigor and 50 int? Also which starting class would be the best for it?
@@skullcat1378 Ive seen alot of people do vigor at 40 for lvl 80. You could also use the amber medallion +3 from the dlc for more vigor. Astrologer would probably be best for that build, i personally use vagabond for every build
@stevie31 Thanks for the reply! I'll try and test if 40 vigor is enough, if not I might go with 45. Thanks for inspiring me to do my first mage invasion build!
The most interesting fights are when you go against other mages hahah
Great video boss
I feel like mages are actually really good better then a lot of melee builds for invasions even.
what are you talking about all i see is mages in elden ring or str builds. its old seeing 24/7 blue spam. by the way their is a staff sword in the dlc. its really good. tho im glad you using the sword spells its nice to see it.
5:45 lmao
yo what armour you using??
W vid keep it up 👍
Here's the thing, Stevie (because I see you made this video somewhat in response to the one I made). In a game where you'll be fighting 200+ ms people most of the time, a build that can be countered simply by spamming rolls on high latency is not viable (in those scenarios at least, which can constitute for 60% of your encounters).
Can you mix-up low-latency regular pvers with a pure mage build and completely destroy them? Yeah, of course you can. However, you need much more practice, setups and knowledge than any other melee setup. There's no reason to not simply pick Rakshasa's and call it a day. You CAN succeed (against groups of PvErs and some not-so-great gankers), but you require a higher skill level (and pray to god the latency is low).
That's why I believe that, while you still can win, they're not as viable as most melee builds (especially STR or DEX, where you have tools to fight high latency). You said yourself that you wouldn't bring this build to a tourney- it's simply not viable against better players, much less on high latency.
Still, always fun to see good mage plays. Have a good day.
@@OnlyWaifuYT Hey i really appreciate the comment. Yea i see what you’re saying, i just dont experience too many latent players on ps5 all that often (not saying i never do) I really just made the video to show how they can work pretty well in invasions if you have some good spell mix ups going.
I look at invasions, what do I see ? Heafty pots, golem arrows, aoe ashes at every turn against 200+ ms people.
Big hitboxes and burst damage will always be useful, and they're not the height of skill expression... a good 80% of people will die.
Idk why you bring tourneys, the polar opposite of invasions where half the game is banned including every good invasion option...
@@glatykoffi6672 Because he mentioned it in another comment.
And the difference is that Hefty Pots and Golem Arrows need no stat requirements. AoE Ashes usually have hyper-armor to trade and secure hits (such as waves of Darkness).
They're considered better for a reason.
I’ve played as faith strength builds, dex faith builds, quality builds, and yet the one build that consistently dominates in pvp has always been my mage character. Spell blade combos and mix ups with projectiles and melee. Of course when you have a mage that actually knows how to fight you are definitely up against a formidable enemy!
I keep coming back to Int-Faith combo-focused omnicasting. It started with the “oh I wonder how difficult it is to use magic only, no melee” and it turns out it’s totally possible and super fun - even at lower levels you wouldn’t think of at first.
ok, wth. I didn't expect to be hit with that Code Vein nostalgia right at the start... Give a girl a warning.... jeez
@@Red_Lycoris1309 Code vein had such a good ost
@@stevie31 Yeah! The endings made me cry tho...
Who is sayimg this? As far as I remeber didnt the whole Elden Ring community hate mages and call them no skill n shit? Mind you, im notvsaying this myself just confused
OnlyWaifu had made a video saying that mages weren’t good in invasions and pvp.
Not hating on him, he has good info in alot of his videos, but the examples he shows in his mage video could have been better.
@stevie31 Goated for giving me context. Also thats a really odd take from Only Waifu. It could be rage bait but that is weird. Have a good one btw
Cool video but no one who has any idea what they're doing has ever said mages arent viable
Nobody is saying that stevie
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They are
@@adrianhuerta4277 They are. Quite a few people are saying this actually.
@@stevie31 they are nobodies stevie
@@adrianhuerta4277 I know lol but it makes a good title
"Mages aren't viable" is the call of people angry spamming basic missile spells from maximum range didn't give them the saame results as PvE does.
Are the people that say "mages aren't viable" in the room with us?
@@Pepello84 A few of them maybe
Actually inspiring g fuckin g’s 🤙🏻
I play at 150 and I can’t pull that damage out of a greatsword
Many people downplay magic builds, but they are very good for invasions for sure, because of the high burst damage. In duels against competent people, completely not viable. And in pve everything from bare fists to greatshield only is viable.