@@account-pd4fi Basically there was that map, that was ranked during the change between ppv1 and ppv2 and got bugged, so it started pulling out insanely high pp plays
This question also depends on how you value the pp system now and whether or not you agree with the changes made to it in the first place, because the pp system is going to be very convoluted until there's actual efforts to constantly updating it, thus a first pp goal play is probably never going to properly answered. The concept of qualified maps giving pp originally and then not once the map was unranked was silly too, so if the map eventually ended up being ranked, then index's should more or less count. Idk, there's too many factors/flaws with the way Osu handles the ranked section of things so they make it impossible to answer these types of questions lmao.
Damn. You talking about 2015 like a distant era made me feel old. I remember when i started playing in january 2015 days before rrtyui done his 1 sliderbreak run on image material.
4:33 as soon as you brought up the first 8* FC i was preparing for "OHH DAT FC" and i fucking cheered also, i forgot what was the deal with xilver ice angel? wasn't that one of the first 600s
The real question is, what was the first pp farm map? (For me a "pp farm map" is a map made with the purpose of giving easy pp like any harumachi clover)
Lust's Daidai Genome if we considered this as "made to break PP system" Luerxa's Koigokoro if we considered this as "accidentaly fits to PP system and shows his pros and coins"
that would be amazing if you or someone else made a full pp record history video from before the time pp was even a thing. i would enjoy yo know what players could back then, and what was the "meta" back then if it existed
erogemaster 225 maybe not someone who is 40k and 35k, but someone who is 40k and 20k, obviously the 20k is better. Unless ofc the 40k doesn’t play ranked maps. Someone with a 400pp play is better than someone with 350pp top play. Pp doesn’t show skill until the gap widens cuz the 40k will never get the same top play as the 20k unless he improves
The play wasn't 900 at first the first 900 (karthys honesty) was the first 900 since it was the play that was 900pp before any other it doesn't matter whether older plays get buffed to that amount
i think it should always be seen with the system as it was then so i think index got it first since it showed on his profile back then regardless of it becomming unqualified later
Why does it matter that the second play was nerfed after WWW set it? Are all 3 of these plays still 600 now? If not, then it shouldn't matter. What's the first 600 according to the current pp system?
Cookiezi's 2013 preban freedom dive nm 99.97% fc is worth 614 pp now if you count deleted scores. For existing scores, it is hvick225's Nyanya 98.70% hddt fc in 2014. It was buffed to 607pp in recent reworks.
I haven't even watched the video yet but I can already give you a 100% correct answer. The first 600pp play was on Ov Sacrament by Astrella. (I'm totatlly just kiding xD I'm just a guy from Beat Saber who knows nothing about osu! lol xD And it's very obvius in Beat Saber what the first 600pp play was) But I still wanna watch this video and learn, because it seems really interesting :D
how about the literal FIRST pp play, like i get why people argue about it but dude... the 609 was the first one regardless of changes and even if vaxei’s 1kpp got nerfed it would still have been the first
Wait so in 2015 before the focus became lazer did they just constantly nerf shit whenever someone got good st something? Except aim cause they nerfed ice angel high cs in general and touchscreen just from what i know directly in response to single plays all of which are impressive plays by todays standard.
my opinion, first 600pp play is the one that is oldest *ranked* 600pp play in *current* pp system. for example after next pp rebalance (soon hopefully) things might change so much that blue zenith HR won't be first 700pp score, instead it would be something else, and i think that's really interesting.
5th school of thought: the first 600 and 700 pp plays were on pendulum - watercolour :]
can you please explain, 2018 player here
hly the ogs remember
@@account-pd4fi Basically there was that map, that was ranked during the change between ppv1 and ppv2 and got bugged, so it started pulling out insanely high pp plays
@@thotsi sorry for being late, thanks a lot for response!
This question also depends on how you value the pp system now and whether or not you agree with the changes made to it in the first place, because the pp system is going to be very convoluted until there's actual efforts to constantly updating it, thus a first pp goal play is probably never going to properly answered. The concept of qualified maps giving pp originally and then not once the map was unranked was silly too, so if the map eventually ended up being ranked, then index's should more or less count.
Idk, there's too many factors/flaws with the way Osu handles the ranked section of things so they make it impossible to answer these types of questions lmao.
Damn. You talking about 2015 like a distant era made me feel old. I remember when i started playing in january 2015 days before rrtyui done his 1 sliderbreak run on image material.
i used to check the big "final boss" maps every day, and i remember waking up and seeing that S rank and freaking the fuck out
4:33 as soon as you brought up the first 8* FC i was preparing for "OHH DAT FC" and i fucking cheered
also, i forgot what was the deal with xilver ice angel? wasn't that one of the first 600s
iirc it was also one of the first 600 and it got nerfed to 590 or so shortly after being set, but I'm not sure at all...
_index 607pp no doubt. It's technically the first 600pp play
а сейчас с его пальцем пиздец и ему больше не играть(
Nitfen что с его пальцем ?
@@donasmy2750 уже ничего
As a 2013 player, it pains me to hear 2015 being considered ancient history.
so you are a veteran.
same lol
as a 2015 player it pains me that im becoming an "old" player
@@takaga2236 as a 2019 player, it pains me to hear im a osu zoomer
@@takaga2236 idk about that
The real question is, what was the first pp farm map? (For me a "pp farm map" is a map made with the purpose of giving easy pp like any harumachi clover)
I don't know the true 'first pp map' but i know that from early pp mapping, it would lilkely be Daidai Genome
Lust's Daidai Genome if we considered this as "made to break PP system"
Luerxa's Koigokoro if we considered this as "accidentaly fits to PP system and shows his pros and coins"
Master Animit You mean Lust’s Daidai Genome?
@@purrplaysLE Yes, my apologize
_index’s play on The Last Journey Home. It deserves more respect.
What was the first 100PP play🤔
Probably a play by cyclone
bryce I see,thx
owo Jimmyyuchen at the time of such plays, pp didnt exist, the oldest pp milestone to date is cookiezis play on some dragonforce map
Hey I remember that
What was 2k pp player was back then?
like 20k ish
Azer's blue zenith Kappa
@@thotsi jesus. i have 3.4k pp rn and im rank 109k
@@kxxlzr yeah, but try getting to 3.4k pp off of only the maps available in 2015! :)
@@thotsi your right! I actually never thought of that lol (no sarcasm)
As sad as it is to say I totally forgot _Index was a guy. Hit me with them feels.
It was the Tsukina DTHD by Index in 2008
Dude Nice vídeo i actually like it the reflexión of what was the first 600
Any chance someone can link me hvick225's pfp at 1:25?
shut up weeb
@@neehgurg2111 calling me a weeb is about as far from an insult as you can possibly get, so thanks man ^^
Here you go:
e-shuushuu.net/images/2015-01-20-704191.jpeg
index 609,end
that would be amazing if you or someone else made a full pp record history video from before the time pp was even a thing. i would enjoy yo know what players could back then, and what was the "meta" back then if it existed
So like tp records?
When I started playing in late-2015 the meta were monstrata's triangle jumps.
Rank is broken I've been decaying for 3 years and I've only gotten better. Last Journey home was first 600 change my mind
pp is quite a mess, but it isn't just that. For 3 years, everyone else has been getting better too, and there are endless more players now vs then
- Akkuto - yeah you’re decaying because people are improving faster than you
@@coluurs5660 improvement doesn't havy anything to do with pp
erogemaster 225 maybe not someone who is 40k and 35k, but someone who is 40k and 20k, obviously the 20k is better. Unless ofc the 40k doesn’t play ranked maps. Someone with a 400pp play is better than someone with 350pp top play. Pp doesn’t show skill until the gap widens cuz the 40k will never get the same top play as the 20k unless he improves
Coluurs decay has to do with pp because I don't want to farm I lose ranks
imagine if cookiezi's 800pp freedom dive HDHR got buffed to 900pp? would that suddenly make it the first 800pp and the first 900pp play technically?
Its actually 908 now
it is the first 900pp play by 727 days (not joke) cause 727 days between freedom dive and karthy honesty which was the actual first 900
The play wasn't 900 at first the first 900 (karthys honesty) was the first 900 since it was the play that was 900pp before any other it doesn't matter whether older plays get buffed to that amount
evb set the first 600pp score on Ai no Sukima +HDDT
5th option
There should be a ranking where it shows top pp score in a single play.
i think it should always be seen with the system as it was then so i think index got it first since it showed on his profile back then regardless of it becomming unqualified later
What was the first ppv2 score?
What was the first score by a player?
Why does it matter that the second play was nerfed after WWW set it? Are all 3 of these plays still 600 now? If not, then it shouldn't matter. What's the first 600 according to the current pp system?
Cookiezi's 2013 preban freedom dive nm 99.97% fc is worth 614 pp now if you count deleted scores.
For existing scores, it is hvick225's Nyanya 98.70% hddt fc in 2014. It was buffed to 607pp in recent reworks.
This is the literal worst take possible
still a goated video
I dont want to know, but here I am.
I haven't even watched the video yet but I can already give you a 100% correct answer. The first 600pp play was on Ov Sacrament by Astrella. (I'm totatlly just kiding xD I'm just a guy from Beat Saber who knows nothing about osu! lol xD And it's very obvius in Beat Saber what the first 600pp play was) But I still wanna watch this video and learn, because it seems really interesting :D
3:37 peepsh play
how about the literal FIRST pp play, like i get why people argue about it but dude... the 609 was the first one regardless of changes and even if vaxei’s 1kpp got nerfed it would still have been the first
Rip cookiezi's masterpiece play
Well there is a new pp rebalance that's coming soon, probably by mid 2020, but if not, definitely in this year.
This didn't aged well
@@MasterAnimit oof. Ppy is not releasing it :P
ajer breks the rooles
When 600pp was rare
DAT FCEE!
Plz do what was the first 700 PP
Cookiezi blue zenith
@@erogemaster225 thx. oh i remember that
Xilver is love
index dragonforce hr
Skin at 1:59?
renegade raider
fredom div
Wait so in 2015 before the focus became lazer did they just constantly nerf shit whenever someone got good st something? Except aim cause they nerfed ice angel high cs in general and touchscreen just from what i know directly in response to single plays all of which are impressive plays by todays standard.
What do you mean "so in 2015" lol this is still happening today (HD Rebalance, Speed rebalance, Angle balance and coming length rebalance)
@@stun2235 much less frequently though from what it sounds.
@@Wutever yee but the pp system was still new back then, they still occur today but less frequently as you say
Yes
Who was the 1st play to win a tournament while banned
Burst limit
FL besto mod owo
my opinion, first 600pp play is the one that is oldest *ranked* 600pp play in *current* pp system. for example after next pp rebalance (soon hopefully) things might change so much that blue zenith HR won't be first 700pp score, instead it would be something else, and i think that's really interesting.
I am from 2077 and contently pp record is 1554 pp
More like 2025 bruh
lmao more like 2021 fgsky is gonna fc justadice 4 mod
1400 is possible if 97% HDHRDTFL justadice
My first 600 play ur asking I haven't got 300 pp yet lol
Automod did it.
funny
Just kidding, not funny
Also fuck you
@@thesaltyspoon7483 y so serious
@@LoliFanservice its bcuz hes a salty spoon
Woi
Bum size
Second!!! >:D