That looks awesome buddy great instructional video! I'm gonna do this soon for my home's back deck. What I like that you did compared to other instructional videos was use the portable drill press on the stairs. May go that route if I don't have the lady around to spot the 45° for me.
Ya the drill press certainly helped. I would recommend having a second person around to hold the drill press. Two people make it easier for sure! Thanks for the comment ! Lake Warrior
Hey thanks Brandon! I really couldn’t be happier with look of the railing. It’s held up well over time too! I think I included all the links in the video description. You can do it very reasonably in terms of cost, there are a lot of products that are way over priced. I had good luck with the pieces I used! Good luck! Lake warrior
Hi, we are trying to buy supplies for cable railing for wood posts on our stairs. They only sell 30 and 45* protectors sleeves, but our stairs are ~38*. Do you think the protectors they sell will still work? I've called and asked and they didn't know the answer for some reason and cannot find this answer anywhere else for any other product but it's unreasonable to assume all stairs are exactly 30*.
Guy looks like Mikey from Orange County Choppers. Of course Mikey could never pull this off. I built a !6’ X 24’ deck with cable railings. 1st you did an excellent job of showing how to do it. 2nd a few things I did slightly different then you. And no mistake your method is just as correct. I used mostly Muzata tools and components off Amazon. I used a aluminum CNC’d template to layout my hole locations then drilled the holes using a jig ( drill press as you call it ). I held the jig in place with 2 hand clamps, then attached the drill and drilled the hole, removed the drill, then the jig. Worked great but took forever to do 320 times. The jig you made is definitely faster. I used tensioners on both ends of all the cables. I have runs of 24’ and 16’ so wanted to make sure I had enough adjustment if needed. It’s been thru 2 Michigan winters & 3rd summer, I have not had to adjust the tension of the cables. I used 316 black vinyl coated and love it! As you said no maintenance. As far as cost cable railings are 20-40% of other options of standard railing components. On the deck itself it’s on 6x6 ground contact post, 40” deep in concrete. 2x12” beams, 2x10” joist. The deck boards are all 16’ long one piece boards. Pain in back side to find enough underaged pieces to do it. Deck boards are held down using the “Camo” deck screw system. Again looks great pain the ^$@ to do but worth it. Then I mounted the railing post on OWT wrought iron black power coated base’s from Home Depot. Expensive but worth it. Again very nice video Sir. Well done, thank you.
Hey Rocky! Thanks for the message! I like the black coated cable and love that you had a template made out of Alum! Thanks for the detailed response to the video! All in all i think the cable railing is a great way to go! Thanks Again for watching Lake Warrior!
So glad I stumbled across your page. We're down by the State Park in Porter IN and our backyard backs up to 5 acres of woods. We love our view and now we'll enjoy it even more. Also love the tip of securing the underside of the deck in your other video because we have so many critters too. PS--Love the makeover inside!!
Super. Thanks for posting this video. Only one issue - looks like when you use the drill press, you don’t set the base on the lumber then “press” the drill bit through. I think you basically eyeballed the angle to be aligned with the base of the drill press. But it looks like it came out ok. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Respectfully. And, again, thanks! Looks great!
Hey Doug, I definitely set the base against the post. It’s important to set the angle so it’s consistent. U can clamp the base to the 4x4 or have a second person hold it as u drill. It’s tough to show everything in the video:). Hope that helps an best of luck on your project! Lake warrior
Thanks for the video! I've seen a lot of recommendations saying you shouldn't have more than 4' between deck posts to limit sag in the wire. Seems like yours are further apart. Notice any issues with that?
@@lakewarrior1443 he meant the space between posts and the wire sagging. I have the same question. You had a pretty long run there on the flat section. Any issues?
@@patrickdennison9799 no problems. I think if u space them closer to 4-5’ apart would likely be better. When I say better I mean you might not need to tighten the cables down as much because the closer spacing prevents sag. We were going for a really open look to keep our view open. Also my building inspector had no issue on post spacing so I went for it! Be sure to check out my latest video on deck cable railing TIPS & Tricks. I go over a few more things I didn’t hit on the first video! Tips & Tricks! ruclips.net/video/q8OFdlOfF3s/видео.html Thanks for the comment Patrick! Appreciate it! Lake Warrior
I had new posts. But you could easily add cables if u have spindles. Well, assuming u could dismantle them an not destroy anything:) Good luck! Lake warrior!
You could add a 30 degrees wedge to the underside of the drill plate. I believe there are bolt holes on the plate so you can bolt it on. That’s how I would tackle an angle like that! Good luck an thanks for the question! Lake warrior
Great job! The links to the supplies in the video description don't match the pictures of the products in the actual video. Which do you recommend I follow, the links or the pics of the products in video?
Hello, nice work ! I'm looking at the tensioners and it says for 2x2 wood or metal We are using 4x4 for the posts....is that not what you used? does this not work for that sizing?
Good question! I used the drill press I mentioned in the video. Marked the correct spacing, clamped the drill press to the post. Drilled! It’s alittle tricky so be patient! Hope that helps!
@lakewarrior1443 I guess what I'm asking is how did you make the cables pass thru. I doubt you could make the cable go in and out on an right angle or less. Or did you use the lag crimp connectors at the corners so you didn't have to stagger the cables?
Hey Brett, I got all of my parts from Amazon and I believe the links are in the video description. Let me know if you need any more info? Thanks for watching!
About to do this for my back deck as well. The link you put for the crimp tool you used looks like it’s for the cable pass throughs. But did you use a hydraulic crimp Tool?
I'd like to get the crimping too you recommended but your link above is to the 30 degree pass through connectors. What brand of crimping tool would you recommend?
Good Question Donna, I grabbed the side of the cable opposite to the nut on the other side of the post with a pliers to hold the cable solid. Then on the other side I tightened the nut. You really have to hold the plyers hard. After a few turns tightening down the nut you have to re grip the plyers holding the cable. The twist in the cable starts to bunch up so you release the tension a few times as you tighten it. Keep in mind the cable doesn't need to be super tight because you can readjust them over time. I also found cold weather tightens the cables. Once you do one or two of these you will get the hang of it! Hope that helps.
Hey Carol, Yes I add tensioners on both ends. When u measure the cables be sure to measure with the nut all the way out on the tensioner. That way you will have space to tighten it down once its all together!
You suggest using 3/16" SS Cable; however, the links for the tension insets all state 1/8th" . I don't find any that are 3/16". Did you mix the 3/16" cable with the 1/8th insets?
Holding up great! If I do another deck I would use the same system. Essentially no maintenance. I love seeing through it as well. I would use the system I got from Amazon. Take a look at description on my video for exact links.. I did a follow up video which might answer a few more of your questions! ruclips.net/video/q8OFdlOfF3s/видео.htmlsub_confirmation= Good luck! Feel free to reach out if u have more questions! Lake warrior
I did not see how you drilled the 30 degree (stair) to horizontal (stair landing) transition. I assume you drilled both horizontal and 30 degree half way, just wanted help clarifying.
Hey Greg, I drilled straight through on the landing post from the landing side. Then set the height of the holes going down from where those holes came out on the step side.. This avoids trying to meet the 30 degree hole to the straight hole. Complicated to explain this:).
Hey Amy! Thanks for watching, I used the following drill press from Amazon “4.3 out of 5 stars5,102 Reviews Milescraft 1318 DrillMate Portable Drill Guide - Multi-Angle Drill Guide Attachment - Compatible with most 3/8 in. Drill Accessories - Self-Centering Drill Guide Base - Multi-Angle Readouts” Good luck with your project! Lake warrior!
Not really, it went through pretty easy. wish I could send u a pic or two but utube doesn’t allow for me to send pics. Im thinking about doing another video just to clarify a few more details like this!
Great step by step...thank you! I'm using these tips to create a pool fence to keep the grand kids safe. I feel better running the cables vertically as then they can't climb the wires as a ladder. Would you recommend lag to lag as I will be running cables vertically? Otherwise I was thinking of using the tension bolts on the bottom railing and running the cable up, through the top railing across 3.5" then down to another lag. A thought would be to clad the top railing so the cable cross over was hidden. Any thoughts? Also, have you ever used a one way clamp? I saw it being used on a This Old House video at 5:10. ruclips.net/video/vopMY32I47A/видео.html
Thank you so much! I'm building a deck for a customer and wanted to do the cables for her project. Now I know how, and I can save some bucks as well.
Hey I’m glad it could help Andrew! Love the look of the railing an can’t beat the price:).
Thanks for watching!
Lake warrior!
Wonderful DIY installation video😄
You just saved me a lot of time and money with this video. Thank you so much!!
Great to hear!
Thanks for the awesome video! The railing looks amazing. Great work.
Hey thanks for the note! Appreciate it!
Lake Warrior!
I wish you would have shown more detail on the crimp end and tightening. Best how to video so far on this but I’d liked more detail
Good point Bryan, thinking about doing a follow up video on just crimping an cutting the cables! Stay tuned!
Lake warrior
thx very informative,great job!
That looks awesome buddy great instructional video! I'm gonna do this soon for my home's back deck. What I like that you did compared to other instructional videos was use the portable drill press on the stairs. May go that route if I don't have the lady around to spot the 45° for me.
Ya the drill press certainly helped. I would recommend having a second person around to hold the drill press. Two people make it easier for sure!
Thanks for the comment !
Lake Warrior
I like that little drill press. I have one and use it a lot
Beautiful
This is great, I plan on rebuilding my deck in about 2 months and I'll be using this for sure!
Hey thanks Brandon! I really couldn’t be happier with look of the railing. It’s held up well over time too! I think I included all the links in the video description. You can do it very reasonably in terms of cost, there are a lot of products that are way over priced. I had good luck with the pieces I used! Good luck!
Lake warrior
Hi, we are trying to buy supplies for cable railing for wood posts on our stairs. They only sell 30 and 45* protectors sleeves, but our stairs are ~38*. Do you think the protectors they sell will still work? I've called and asked and they didn't know the answer for some reason and cannot find this answer anywhere else for any other product but it's unreasonable to assume all stairs are exactly 30*.
Guy looks like Mikey from Orange County Choppers. Of course Mikey could never pull this off. I built a !6’ X 24’ deck with cable railings. 1st you did an excellent job of showing how to do it. 2nd a few things I did slightly different then you. And no mistake your method is just as correct. I used mostly Muzata tools and components off Amazon. I used a aluminum CNC’d template to layout my hole locations then drilled the holes using a jig ( drill press as you call it ). I held the jig in place with 2 hand clamps, then attached the drill and drilled the hole, removed the drill, then the jig. Worked great but took forever to do 320 times. The jig you made is definitely faster. I used tensioners on both ends of all the cables. I have runs of 24’ and 16’ so wanted to make sure I had enough adjustment if needed. It’s been thru 2 Michigan winters & 3rd summer, I have not had to adjust the tension of the cables. I used 316 black vinyl coated and love it! As you said no maintenance. As far as cost cable railings are 20-40% of other options of standard railing components.
On the deck itself it’s on 6x6 ground contact post, 40” deep in concrete. 2x12” beams, 2x10” joist. The deck boards are all 16’ long one piece boards. Pain in back side to find enough underaged pieces to do it. Deck boards are held down using the “Camo” deck screw system. Again looks great pain the ^$@ to do but worth it. Then I mounted the railing post on OWT wrought iron black power coated base’s from Home Depot. Expensive but worth it.
Again very nice video Sir. Well done, thank you.
Enough I damaged boards.
Hey Rocky!
Thanks for the message! I like the black coated cable and love that you had a template made out of Alum! Thanks for the detailed response to the video! All in all i think the cable railing is a great way to go!
Thanks Again for watching
Lake Warrior!
So glad I stumbled across your page. We're down by the State Park in Porter IN and our backyard backs up to 5 acres of woods. We love our view and now we'll enjoy it even more. Also love the tip of securing the underside of the deck in your other video because we have so many critters too. PS--Love the makeover inside!!
Hey Thanks for the Note. I bet the railing is perfect looking out over the Woods!
Lake Warrior
Super. Thanks for posting this video. Only one issue - looks like when you use the drill press, you don’t set the base on the lumber then “press” the drill bit through. I think you basically eyeballed the angle to be aligned with the base of the drill press. But it looks like it came out ok. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Respectfully. And, again, thanks! Looks great!
Hey Doug, I definitely set the base against the post. It’s important to set the angle so it’s consistent. U can clamp the base to the 4x4 or have a second person hold it as u drill. It’s tough to show everything in the video:). Hope that helps an best of luck on your project!
Lake warrior
@@lakewarrior1443 Super! Understood. Thanks for the clarification. And thanks for the video!
Did you use the #4 template on the crimper?
Great video… thank you! Did you use pressure treated 4x4 s or cedar?
Hey Thanks Geoffrey, I did use pressure treated lumber and sealed it with an oil based stain.. Good Luck on your project!
Lake Warrior
How do you uncrimp something ? Do you just cut the wire and get a new piece of hardware?
Ya unfortunately. Cut wire
Good luck
Lake warrior
Fantastic work, please forgive me but I cannot see the links etc. would you mind posting them? I’d love to get my hands on all this gear.
Hey Philip! If you go to the video links under the title of the video I list all of the links there! Thanks for watching an best of luck!
Thanks for the video! I've seen a lot of recommendations saying you shouldn't have more than 4' between deck posts to limit sag in the wire. Seems like yours are further apart. Notice any issues with that?
Hey Josh, good point. 4” is maximum distance allowed by most building codes. I went 4” on center.
Thanks for watching!
Lake warrior!
@@lakewarrior1443 he meant the space between posts and the wire sagging. I have the same question. You had a pretty long run there on the flat section. Any issues?
@@patrickdennison9799 no problems. I think if u space them closer to 4-5’ apart would likely be better. When I say better I mean you might not need to tighten the cables down as much because the closer spacing prevents sag. We were going for a really open look to keep our view open. Also my building inspector had no issue on post spacing so I went for it! Be sure to check out my latest video on deck cable railing TIPS & Tricks. I go over a few more things I didn’t hit on the first video!
Tips & Tricks!
ruclips.net/video/q8OFdlOfF3s/видео.html
Thanks for the comment Patrick! Appreciate it!
Lake Warrior
How would you do a 90 deg turn on a corner post? thanks! GREAT VIDEO!
Dave
I typically start a new run on a corner or go through the corner with a 45 degree hole. They make the hardware to do that!
Good luck
Lake warrior
Did you just replace the spindles in your existing railing with cable, or did you replace the posts as well?
I had new posts. But you could easily add cables if u have spindles. Well, assuming u could dismantle them an not destroy anything:)
Good luck!
Lake warrior!
Great video. The Milescraft drill mate drill press you show is calibrated at 45, 60, 75 and 90 degrees. How to you set it for 30 degrees?
You could add a 30 degrees wedge to the underside of the drill plate. I believe there are bolt holes on the plate so you can bolt it on. That’s how I would tackle an angle like that!
Good luck an thanks for the question!
Lake warrior
Great job! The links to the supplies in the video description don't match the pictures of the products in the actual video. Which do you recommend I follow, the links or the pics of the products in video?
Should be the links, I’ll double check!
3/16 is 1/16 more than 1/8. 304 is a grade. 1/8 and 1/16 are sizes. You can’t get a 1/16 in a 1/8.
Hello, nice work ! I'm looking at the tensioners and it says for 2x2 wood or metal We are using 4x4 for the posts....is that not what you used? does this not work for that sizing?
Yes, I used 4x4’s for my post. The tensioners I have in my link do in deed work for 4x4 an under!
Good luck an thanks for the question!
Lake Warrior
I love the Yogi Bear Shirt. Is that Lake Warrior Swag?
Yes! One of my favorites:). Lake warrior swag below!
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Awesome diy and video. One question. How did you do your corners?
Good question! I used the drill press I mentioned in the video. Marked the correct spacing, clamped the drill press to the post. Drilled! It’s alittle tricky so be patient! Hope that helps!
@lakewarrior1443 I guess what I'm asking is how did you make the cables pass thru. I doubt you could make the cable go in and out on an right angle or less. Or did you use the lag crimp connectors at the corners so you didn't have to stagger the cables?
Thanks for the video! Redoing my deck now and interested in what the handrail design was. Is that a 2x6 top with 2x4 underneath?
2x4 below. 2x6 top rail. Good luck an thanks for watching!
Lake warrior
Nice work! What brand of Parts did you use for the cables and fittings?
Hey Brett, I got all of my parts from Amazon and I believe the links are in the video description. Let me know if you need any more info? Thanks for watching!
ruclips.net/video/q8OFdlOfF3s/видео.html
About to do this for my back deck as well. The link you put for the crimp tool you used looks like it’s for the cable pass throughs. But did you use a hydraulic crimp
Tool?
Hey David! Here’s the link to the press I used! Good luck on the project!
amzn.to/3Pqpasa
Lake warrior
I'd like to get the crimping too you recommended but your link above is to the 30 degree pass through connectors. What brand of crimping tool would you recommend?
Hey Julie! Here is link to the crimped I used! amzn.to/427ez7O
Good luck with project!
Lake warrior
Could you explain how you did the end of the cable to tighten it?
Good Question Donna, I grabbed the side of the cable opposite to the nut on the other side of the post with a pliers to hold the cable solid. Then on the other side I tightened the nut. You really have to hold the plyers hard. After a few turns tightening down the nut you have to re grip the plyers holding the cable. The twist in the cable starts to bunch up so you release the tension a few times as you tighten it. Keep in mind the cable doesn't need to be super tight because you can readjust them over time. I also found cold weather tightens the cables. Once you do one or two of these you will get the hang of it! Hope that helps.
Hey I did a follow up video on this based on some comments! This should help you if you still need it?
ruclips.net/video/q8OFdlOfF3s/видео.html
Do the tensioners go on both ends of each run? If not, what goes on the other end?
Hey Carol, Yes I add tensioners on both ends. When u measure the cables be sure to measure with the nut all the way out on the tensioner. That way you will have space to tighten it down once its all together!
You suggest using 3/16" SS Cable; however, the links for the tension insets all state 1/8th" . I don't find any that are 3/16". Did you mix the 3/16" cable with the 1/8th insets?
Hey Janet! Sorry I might have messed up the link. Should be 1/8” everything. Thanks for watching!
Lake warrior
He said 3/16… he meant 316 stainless steel. It is a grade of stainless.
I’m gathering info on doing cable railing as well. Could you tell me, now that it’s been a year, how your cable is holding up?
Holding up great! If I do another deck I would use the same system. Essentially no maintenance. I love seeing through it as well. I would use the system I got from Amazon. Take a look at description on my video for exact links.. I did a follow up video which might answer a few more of your questions!
ruclips.net/video/q8OFdlOfF3s/видео.htmlsub_confirmation=
Good luck! Feel free to reach out if u have more questions!
Lake warrior
@@lakewarrior1443 thanks a lot man! I’ll check out your update video!
I did not see how you drilled the 30 degree (stair) to horizontal (stair landing) transition. I assume you drilled both horizontal and 30 degree half way, just wanted help clarifying.
Hey Greg, I drilled straight through on the landing post from the landing side. Then set the height of the holes going down from where those holes came out on the step side.. This avoids trying to meet the 30 degree hole to the straight hole. Complicated to explain this:).
Hi! Can you tell me which portable drill press you used?
Hey Amy! Thanks for watching, I used the following drill press from Amazon “4.3 out of 5 stars5,102 Reviews
Milescraft 1318 DrillMate Portable Drill Guide - Multi-Angle Drill Guide Attachment - Compatible with most 3/8 in. Drill Accessories - Self-Centering Drill Guide Base - Multi-Angle Readouts”
Good luck with your project!
Lake warrior!
Looks good, wonder about 'the code', however, looks like a child could climb over.
That is code. At some point the parent has to take some responsibility on keeping the child under control. It's called parenting.
How did you handle the 90 degree corners of the deck?
Good question, I drilled through at a 45 degree angle. Wasn’t fun but with the portable drill press it wasn’t terrible.
@@lakewarrior1443 ...and feeding the cable through was not difficult? Thanks BTW
Not really, it went through pretty easy. wish I could send u a pic or two but utube doesn’t allow for me to send pics. Im thinking about doing another video just to clarify a few more details like this!
Great step by step...thank you!
I'm using these tips to create a pool fence to keep the grand kids safe. I feel better running the cables vertically as then they can't climb the wires as a ladder.
Would you recommend lag to lag as I will be running cables vertically? Otherwise I was thinking of using the tension bolts on the bottom railing and running the cable up, through the top railing across 3.5" then down to another lag. A thought would be to clad the top railing so the cable cross over was hidden.
Any thoughts?
Also, have you ever used a one way clamp? I saw it being used on a This Old House video at 5:10.
ruclips.net/video/vopMY32I47A/видео.html