The torque wrench’s that Honda supplies don’t have to be set every time. The yellow torque wrench is permanently set at 30lb-ft for drain plug. It also prevents some one from over tightening the drain plug. Also this guy does not know how to use the torque wrench properly, you should only let the wrench click once. Pulling the wrench multiple times over tightens to increases the torque applied to the fastener.
Just learned and started changing my own oil in my accord, found out the dealership who did my last oil change put the crush-washer the wrong side. So, I guess the answer is NOT always.
Brought my new Chevy truck in for her first free oil change at my local Chevrolet dealer. When I got home i double checked their work and sure enough I had the same oil filter....i know this because I had marked a happy face with a Sharpe. Took it right back and they gave me 2 more free oil changes.
holy shit. Should of reported this to the State business agency. There is a you-tube video out there of a guy with him Mercedes..he left his dash cam recording and caught everything..they did none of the work and the guys even took his car to get fast food.
While inspecting things are important, you need to understand that what they are really doing is looking for things they can fix and overcharge you on. For example, that engine air filter in the beginning is simple to replace by unclipping some clips and buying a new one if dirty. A lot of dealerships will take advantage of customers not knowing what an engine filter is or how easy it is to replace it and will charge $50-$100 sometimes for a filter which would cost your around $19.95 at most and a couple minutes of your time to replace. Even better, buy a reusable K&N engine air filter and you will save even more money over time.
I agree 99% of everything what you said, except for the K&N air filter. OEM paper filters have very fine particulate filtration. Yes, the K&N does increase air flow, at the expense of dirty/harmful/dusty air entering the engine, acting like sandpaper.
I work at the dealer yes advisors don't tell the customers about the engine filters sometimes customer come to me For example dirty engine filter will cause running the car on rich fuel(burn more fuel) Clean one will run lean on fuel (More air and less fuel)
Work as a mechanic for Honda for over 10 years. Let me tell you if you're a good mechanic and you don't sell jobs or you don't find things to sell you don't keep your job for very long.
Better idea is to have you Honda professionals tell people how to properly work on their own cars by specific model. Otherwise stop posting crap on RUclips and tell people to bring their personal lube when you show them the bill.
Though it is costly at dealer but we need to think they are there to earn money to support their families . I used to own Mercedes and the dealer charge around 200 dollars for just oil change and check here and there. I do oil change on my accord V6 myself. If you know how to do it it is supper easy as it will save not only money but time. I think this video is more for ladies who can not do oil change and prefer to take it to dealer.
Yeah, especially the garbage Acura dealership I took my 2001 TL to get my 02 sensor replaced. They were trying to rip me off of a tie rod, cv joint, and lied to me about my inspection sticker and the frame being rotted. The worst part is that the mechanic cut one of my exhaust hangers off in order to have my flex pipe separate so he can do more work on my car and get more money out of me. Even independent and franchise shops can rip you off. But the irony is, the Acura dealer was the only dealership that was trying to rip me off.
@@maximagmhondafan8892 True. That's why I don't go the dealer UNLESS I want to buy/sell a car or have them do a service that they can older do rather than an independent mechanic shop. Speaking of independent mechanic shops, Pep Boys usually do services correctly and offer sweet discounts. And I can schedule an appointment
@Aurva Roy funny you’d mention, I work at pep boys. I HATE it. I plan on quitting this month and will end up working at a dealership, because that’s where all of the training is.
I have done my service at the el Cerrito dealer. Great experience and they never tried to rip me off. They ask me if I want certain things done and how much they cost. They never try to fool me and make me pay for extra stuffs. From my side, I am quite knowledgeable about vehicles, so I know what they are talking about. I go to the dealer to save my time and for the records. There are plenty of discounts online.
@@vinichi3014 - Correct. Where I live right know, in Belgium, maintenance by a dealer is recommended. They offer service assistance for free, also the service history adds value. Pinching pennies doesn't always help. There's more than just changing oil.
chris rinck You have to cascade the oil into the funnel. Not just anyone can do it. You have to be certified honda man. Theres specifications to rate of flow from oil can to the funnel.
Bruh I had them change the brakes, they did change it but they didn't change the brake pads. When to the dealer for a oil change, then they said I need new pads guess what was the price to do that $300. Keep in mind I paid about $300 or more on brake rotor change. Aren't you supposed to change the rotors and pads at the same time? I will now do my car maintenance on my own and with the help of RUclips videos like ChrisFix. I only went to the dealers maintenance because it was my first brand new car, and I want it to be taken care of, but hell parts are cheap for Hondas, and easy to install
it's also better for the brake system, more rotor means there is more material to dissipate the heat to so it's less likely to warp and cause brake pulsation
My Honda dealer forgot to tighten the drain plug. Had a puddle on the garage floor. One and a half turns with my fingers before I a wrench on it! Lucky it didn't fall out.
just a note if this is a honda dealer why use an air gun on the wheels if you check the pack your locking wheel nuts comes in it shows never to use guns on them apart from that great work
Indeed you can see the wheels are attached with cosmetic lug nuts as well as a locking nut. An impact tool should never be used on these. It damages their appearance and can damage the chrome plating.
I have no place where I can safely jack up my car so I felt I needed to have the work done for me. My 2015 Honda Fit has had 2 oil changes done by dealer service departments. This car has a plastic shroud that goes under the engine. It is fastened with 6 Phillips head self-tapping screws, that screw into metal clips which have holes in them, and 2 plastic 2-part fasteners push-pin fasteners. It is held up in the front by 2 lips that simply rest on top of the bumper shroud. First oil change, the technician put one of the front lips above the bumper shroud, and the other underneath. Second oil change, the tech missed the metal clip with one screw, leaving the screw just hanging loose, and the shroud flopping loose in one spot. This dealer provided a "free 19 point inspection" during which the tech neglected to close the battery cover over the positive terminal, putting it at risk of being shorted out. He also checked the tire pressure and set them to 35 psi, even though the spec is 33. Not a big deal, 2 extra pounds. But he neglected to tighten the valve stem caps, risking loss of the caps. He just sort of started them on the valve stems, and turned them down maybe only 1/2 a turn - in other words barely turned down, very losse, and likely to come off after a few miles. He did this with all 4 valve stem caps!
I don’t know why people keep hating. Some people don’t know how to change oil or do stuff on their car. I think Honda does a great job. This video was a great video for me. Don’t bother to comment something stupid down below or on the replies.
Its funny. I have never been to a Honda dealer where they didn't find one thing they tried to ding me for. If this tech guy keeps this up, he'll be out of a job.
Nice to see he didn't use an oil wrench to tighten it. There is no need to prime the oil filter. Maybe a nine inch diesel filter that went straight up but auto is not needed. It will pump oil fast enough and there is still oil up inside. You won't get it all by the time your done draining. Many very expensive cars have canisters or are on angles where the oil would run out of the filter by the time you screwed the new one on.
One of the frustrating things about having the oil changed by the Honda dealer is that they tighten the oil pan bolt back on so much that I have to use a breaker bar to loosen it when doing the next oil change at home. I’ve asked them not to do this but they do it anyway. The oil filter hasn’t been a problem. How do you know you’re actually getting synthetic oil at the dealer!
Go for a simple oil change then they lie to you About all the work that you need and of course it’s a safety issue to try to put more pressure on you to spend a lot of money and their service advisors get commission for everything they sell to you that you don’t need
While waiting in the customer lounge for my new civic I had the pleasure to watch the "service girl " approach every customer and report other findings while doing a oil change. She sold about 3 new Honda batteries in 15 minutes. Because their cold cranking amps were down and she would hate to see such a nice old man stuck this winter with a dead battery. Everyone needed wiper blades to.
Screw the dealer. My local one charges $30 just to rotate the tires. Dudes already have my car on the lift for an oil change, so why that much more just to air gun on/off the tires? You know damn well they don't use a torque wrench anyway. Even quick lubes rotate the tires for free with an oil change.
Honda dealerships don't even change the oil filter at every oil change. The say that it is recommended by Honda that they change the oil filter every other oil change. Screw that, change your own oil that way you know it's done the right way.
At 1:52, Peter Griffin (I mean, Steven) allows the end of the air hose to smack the wheel. Around 4:00, he says they'll do "another torque with a manual torque wrench". By then, it's too late because the lug nuts have most likely been inconsistently and excessively torqued following the use of the "torque sticks" that are seen lying on the workbench as part of the "special Honda tool assortment".
My local Honda dealer here in Canada doesn't do any inspection on brakes,tires or lights ...Only reason I go to Honda is that they r cheaper as compare to market place ..I pay about $60 CAD for 0W20 Full synthetic whereas other places such a Canadian tire charge me $90 for full synthetic oil change ....
This is why a 20 minute oil change actually ends up taking an hour and a half or longer. Last time I got a oil change, they also recommended that I replace the brake pads, rotors and tires.... All for the grand total of $1,000. If I would have followed their suggestions, that would have been one hell of an expensive oil change.
Jesse Allen what you mean prime oil filter? If you think any place will fill oil filter with oil first your insane. Your also an idiot, the car was running when they drove it into shop. It still has a coating of oil on every part in the engine. It would take many days, possibly weeks for that oil film to fully dry and leave internal parts unprotected. Even if it did dry you think the 1 second it takes for the oil filter to fill affects anything? You leave a comment thinking you know more than a mechanic but you don't know shit. The toyota 2.2 liter engine they used for 30 years is considered one of the most reliable engines ever produced and the oil filter is screwed on from the top, therefore inpossible to 'prime'. Same with every subaru engine.
Considering this is a honda dealer, they probably follow the manufacturer's instructions to the letter. One of those instructions is do not fill the oil filter before installing. I don't know why, or if it could damage the engine in anyway (probably not,) but since these guys are certified honda mechanics, they have to follow all of honda's rules.
The only reason the dealer wants to do your oil change is so they can see if they can get you for more money somewhere else no other reason at all do not be fooled. Worked in a dealer for over 10 years
The best oil changes with the best products are the ones I do myself. Much to the objection of some dealership mechanics, I mean "automotive technicians", I've managed to change my own oil without causing a thermonuclear meltdown. However, if for some reason I cannot do the job, I'd pick a Honda dealer (or whatever dealership for your vehicle make) over any oil change place. You will at least be getting good oil and filter. You probably won't be paying much more for a full synthetic oil change than you would at a quick lube shop. It may not be as fast as a quick lube place, but there is a much less chance that they will screw it up. Quick lube places are notorious for putting on the wrong filter, cheap filters, putting the filter on wrong, stripping oil pan threads or substituting cheap oil.
Agreed its the dealer for me for anything I cant do myself. Honda deaers here in Atlanta are roughly the same price as independant shops and you know they are using OEM parts.
This is why i stopped going to quicky lube places. $70 for 10 minutes of labor. His only job was to change the oil and he didnt even bother check the dipstick (!) just dumps the oil in and then assumes the level is ok and then wanders off. Didnt replace the crush washer now it might leak so hopefully the next guy checks the oil level
What he did is reset the "maintenance minder" light, not the "oil" light. He said it almost right the first time, "the maintenance light." There is a red oil light in addition to the yellow maintenance minder light. It indicates if the oil pressure is low, and may indicate if the level is low. It is not something that can be "reset." "This car has no power steering; it has electric power steering." Maybe he meant that the car has no power steering FLUID? If the car has any disk brakes, one does NOT want to see the brake fluid reservoir filled all the way up, unless the brake pads are at new thickness. As the pads wear, as they have in this car, the fluid level goes down. If with the pads worn, the reservoir is topped up, then when new pads are installed, the reservoir will overflow. Very messy. Cars are designed so that as the pads wear all the way down, there will still be plenty of fluid in the reservoir. It will be above the minimum line, as well as below the maximum line. Tire tread depth should be measured on several points on each tire, several points along the width, several points around the circumference. In addition to tread depth, they should be inspected for evenness of wear. If any tires shows uneven wear, further diagnosis is necessary to see if it indicates a need for balancing, wheel alignment, or replacement of suspension parts such as ball joints or tie rod ends.
that is what any garage will do if you book it in for a full service and you don't check brake fluid like that colour some times doesn't change have to check it with a tool. and in a service that air filter should of been changed and you forgot the pollen filter too
Why in oil change at 5000 miles? Your maintenance minder probably only shows 50%, changing oil is a waste of money. Do you know why they tell you to change your oil so soon it's because Honda changed their oil filter to a cheaper one made by Fram. Look for Honda 15400-PLM-A01 Oil Filter! The cheaper filter ends in -A02! I know this because of my previous Accord had over 400,000 miles before I gave it to my nephew, Quality oil and filter makes the difference.
I know I'm wasting money but I live by the 3000 mile rule. I've been changing oil on my 1999 Ford Taurus myself since new for the past 18 years/240,000 miles and never had a major issue with the engine or the transmission (every 2 years for the trans). The only issue is that the body will be the death of the car at this stage because it's rusted to hell.
Environmentally speaking a very bad old habit. Modern day oils and cars do not need to have oil changed this frequently. It's a waist of money and resources plus unnecessary pollution. It's not 1950's any more when your grand father told you so.
I always thought that Gastrol GTX was as good as or better than the Honda branded oil. I still only use the Honda Oil Filter. I change my oil myself. But, the cost of everything is going up - including the do-it-yourself oil change. The Honda Engines can last a half a million miles as long as you don't change the timing belt late.
You guys don't even check tire pressure.. Last time I took my 2017 Civic to an oil change I got a Flat tire just getting out of the dealer, the guy didn't tell me I got a nail in the tire and a tire pressure light on the dashboard was on.. So I came back to fix it and they said "I'm sorry we don't fix flat tires but we can put some air on it" that sucks
It's not rocket science to fill the oil filter with some oil before you put it on try to save those bearings any way you can plus it's just good procedure if the oil filter goes straight up and down the dealership just clowns people around anyway
My friend got a battery installed at a Honda stealership in Lynn,mass. They never connected the J bolts that hold the battery in place. They broke one off.Terminal cable had a screw put in it so the terminal wouldn't move around. What the F. They call themselves mechanics. I ordered new J bolts on EBay and replaced them. I convinced him no more stealerships. He uses my local ASE approved mechanic.
Since when is a torque wrench a "honda special tool?" All the correct tools to do the job correctly? Really, a few wrenches, sockets, ratchet, torque wrench....really a lot of tools.Just a BS video to get you to use a Honda dealer and give them money you can save by doing all yourself. And you can LEGALLY change your own oil and filter.
I never sow when the remove the plastic protector under the engine! I took my 2015 first time and i never got down to do inspection after service, after 6 months surprise!! under cover missing! Gardena Honda.check your car after service tire nuts , key lock, small interior parts! You won’t realize is missing until you need it!
He neglected to rotate the tires. Tire rotation interval about equals the oil change interval. He neglected to put a new washer on the oil drain plug which is specified by Honda. I found it funny how he used a torque wrench on the drain plug but did not use a torque wrench on the oil filter which has a torque specification written on the filter. It does also specify turns after contacting base but that is not as precise. When he tightened the oil filter, he just tightened it by feel. In reality, I find it hard to believe they use a torque wrench at all as they are in such a rush. I do all of those procedures when I change the oil on my Honda but use a better oil, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Synthetic. I would not trust the dealer to service my car.
Why wouldnt you want to take your Honda to the Honda dealerships for oil changes? I bought a 16 civic and ive been taking it to the same dealer for service. I thought if you do this itll be better for the car since they check everything. If you do it yourself you might miss something or what do you guys think? Should i just do the oil changes myself?
Lol stop acting like you guys know everything pointing out every mistake he does. The truth is, the $20 corner mechanic wont do magic on your car he will most likely rip you off too at some point. Take your honda (or any car) to the dealer they'll use genuine parts at just $39 for a complete full synthetic oil change. At leats thats what my local honda charges.
I usually do my own oil change. But the last time I've been at a Honda dealer, they dropped the oil filler cap seal in the back of the engine(next to PCV valve). No idea how the seal came out of the cap. At the next oil change, I had to use both hands to remove the cap. Also, I asked for Synthetic oil and paid a high premium for that. That was the crappiest oil I ever paid for, my wife complained for months that the engine is noisy and lack of power. I just change the oil last week, engine regained its energy.
the video. I have a question. Does it happen sometimes to you when you start driving after your car was parked for about 5 to 7 hours or overnight you start breaking slightly and your car breakers abroptly and hard? It happens on my Honda hrv 2019 and the car has only 700 miles! But then after driving 5 minutes more the car breakers normally softly and gently!
If that's the case, that means you're brakes are new. When you have new brakes, you don't have to press the pedal as hard to make it stop. And since you have 700 miles on your SUV, I'm assuming your SUV is brand new. New cars obviously have new brakes.
Why? They cost the same as independant shop. Honda dealer quoted me 180 to change front brakes and resurface rotor. Independant shop wanted 170 and who knows what parts they will use. I rather trust my car with ppl who work on the same cars everyday.
Last thing we are going to do is bill you 300 dollars to maintain our dealership in profit of course that's off camera. It's a Honda Not BMW or Mercedes take it to ur local garage get an oil change for 30 bucks if it has too many problems sell it finance another one for 300 bucks a month
I would never trust a stinking dealer where they take the car around the back and you never see what they do. One time I went in for an oil change and it ended up that the oil was never changed but they had me pay anyway. I didn't realize until later that the oil was the dirty old oil Another time my one year old's car muffler was replaced with an old rusty muffler. Again, I did not notice this until months later and by that time I could not prove they did it due to lapse of time. My friend took his car for an oil change and he drove off without oil in the car. One dealer mechanic related how the mechanics do remove parts and replace them with old parts and I am proof of that. One was a Honda dealer, one a Lexus and one a Pontiac.
Change engine oil EVERY 50 hours of engine operation or 3,500 miles. ANY kind of oil gets DIRTY and no filter can clean it that well. Also, ALWAYS use a COUPON for an oil change at Honda. Most Honda dealers will match coupons from other Honda dealers (sometimes also Acura dealers, too).
good thing that Honda didn't have the plastic on the bottom above the oil pan. I'm sure they would have hacked it up so they wouldn't have to remove it like on my wife's car.
First of all you need 4.5 q of oil not 5. Second you don't need an oil change sticker for 5k miles because depending on how you drive and where, the oil change might be needed anywhere from 5k to 10k. I am at 6k and my dashboard says I got 10% of oil life left. So you could potentially waste a lot of $ by doing the oil change too often. Honda put that oil change indicator in the dash for a reason. Also when you install a. Ew oil filter you need to lubricate de filter gasket. The guy in the video did it, but didn't say it need to be done. Poorly informative video at best
I'm curious because my 2013 civic shows 50% after almost 5000 miles, and it showed 50% even before going on a 440 mile long road trip. The oil looks pretty dark so I might go get it changed soon but i just hope that meter isn't wrong...
Steven s it depends a lot on how and here u drive. In town and stop and go wears out the oil 2 times more than regular driving. So instead of the 10k miles interval for the oil change it goes down to 5k or so like in my case. Actually the mileage at 5% for me was 5200 miles. That's when I changed the oil. You don't need to change your oil at 50%. The car's computer calculates the right interval for the oil change. The oil looks dark after just a few hundred miles. So that's not the right way to tell when the oil change is needed. Just go by the dashboard. I would wait until it shows 10% or less. Otherwise you are wasting your $ and time. Our hondas use full synthetic oil which is rated up to 12k miles. That is what Mobil claims.
Darkness of oil isn't an indicator. Just today I had drained oil out of an engine only five minutes after I put oil in it. (I put in the wrong weight.) I hadn't cranked the car. The oil was as black as if it had been in there for 10,000 miles.
Excellent job but I’ve found many dealers actually charging for services they haven’t done. Yep caught quite a few meaning for me it’s almost 50/50. That’s why I don’t bring my car to the dealer. It’s goes for American dealerships as well as foreign car. Some of you guys are literally THIEVES.
wow... a lot of bashing going on in this comment section...lol.. but you know what? almost everyone is correct, do these things yourself, and if you cant, find a bf/husband that can do it for you. the dealer will sock it to you, plus i always enjoy knowing that i after i am done working on my car i do not have to worry about a dealer mistake. and honda oil? lol..no thanks..mobil 1 full synthetic here. 5qts $10 bucks online with rebate when available...you just gotta look.
Guess how much it is for a Bugatti oil change y’all Complaining about 110 try $20,000 for a oil change you have to bring it too them are you void the warranty I bring my car to Honda for 39.95
so it doesn't have power steering, then in the next breath it has electric power steering, so it HAS power steering. Then he checks tyre pressure, says its 32 psi WRONG, front is always more than the back in a honda front wheel drive car so not all 32 psi, dealers are always lying about everything just to get more money from the poor noob drivers
He was checking fluids and mentioned no power steering...as in there's no need to check ps fluid because there isn't any. Also, the specified pressure for that accord is 32psi front/rear per the owners manual. I hate a stealership as much as the next guy but lets leave the criticizing to things that are actually stupid like the "honda specialty tools" torque wrench and torque-limiting impact extensions, lol.
if you can't change your own fluids and you have time to do so your just lazy I don't trust the dealer's they overcharge and they always find something wrong even if you fixed it already
He clearly meant it doesn't have a power steering fluid tank to check. While dealer oil changes are a rip-off, you are being a bit of an ass on that one.
"these are special Honda tools".... since when did a torque wrench and torque sticks become special tools???
Agree, these guys at Honda are jackasses - basically an infomercial.
"Please don't think of doing this on your own. We want your money."
It has the honda logo on it.
Therefore it's special
Import Car Enthusiast 😂😂😂😂
The torque wrench’s that Honda supplies don’t have to be set every time. The yellow torque wrench is permanently set at 30lb-ft for drain plug. It also prevents some one from over tightening the drain plug. Also this guy does not know how to use the torque wrench properly, you should only let the wrench click once. Pulling the wrench multiple times over tightens to increases the torque applied to the fastener.
I've been servicing my honda for 7 years by myself with no problem. runs like new everyday 😎
Just learned and started changing my own oil in my accord, found out the dealership who did my last oil change put the crush-washer the wrong side. So, I guess the answer is NOT always.
They have to run a huge facility. Meaning they will rob you
Brought my new Chevy truck in for her first free oil change at my local Chevrolet dealer. When I got home i double checked their work and sure enough I had the same oil filter....i know this because I had marked a happy face with a Sharpe. Took it right back and they gave me 2 more free oil changes.
holy shit. Should of reported this to the State business agency. There is a you-tube video out there of a guy with him Mercedes..he left his dash cam recording and caught everything..they did none of the work and the guys even took his car to get fast food.
@@davel3552 Damn. Didn't know technicians could be that unreliable. What did the customer do afterwards?
While inspecting things are important, you need to understand that what they are really doing is looking for things they can fix and overcharge you on. For example, that engine air filter in the beginning is simple to replace by unclipping some clips and buying a new one if dirty. A lot of dealerships will take advantage of customers not knowing what an engine filter is or how easy it is to replace it and will charge $50-$100 sometimes for a filter which would cost your around $19.95 at most and a couple minutes of your time to replace. Even better, buy a reusable K&N engine air filter and you will save even more money over time.
I agree 99% of everything what you said, except for the K&N air filter. OEM paper filters have very fine particulate filtration. Yes, the K&N does increase air flow, at the expense of dirty/harmful/dusty air entering the engine, acting like sandpaper.
you can buy the filters online for anywhere from 8-12 dollars.
Garrett Stevensen had a K&N for 20 years engine still runs like new
Sounds like youve been ripped off before lmao
I work at the dealer yes advisors don't tell the customers about the engine filters sometimes customer come to me
For example dirty engine filter will cause running the car on rich fuel(burn more fuel)
Clean one will run lean on fuel
(More air and less fuel)
They want $105 CDN for a conventional oil change at Dealer using bulk oil. I can do it with synthetic oil and Honda oil filter for about $50.
Work as a mechanic for Honda for over 10 years. Let me tell you if you're a good mechanic and you don't sell jobs or you don't find things to sell you don't keep your job for very long.
They want to charge me $75 for oil change, I can do it for $25 myself.
I had a Honda dealer do an oil/filter change for me and they'd over-filled the oil by a pint!....never again will i have a dealer do it.
Better idea is to have you Honda professionals tell people how to properly work on their own cars by specific model. Otherwise stop posting crap on RUclips and tell people to bring their personal lube when you show them the bill.
Thanks for watching...
LOOL
Though it is costly at dealer but we need to think they are there to earn money to support their families . I used to own Mercedes and the dealer charge around 200 dollars for just oil change and check here and there. I do oil change on my accord V6 myself. If you know how to do it it is supper easy as it will save not only money but time. I think this video is more for ladies who can not do oil change and prefer to take it to dealer.
sub786sub why ladies? Why can't ladies change oil. My gf does everything herself and she's an engineer
Dealer just installed a dry oil filter. That's why i change my own oil.
I hope this video was made for soccer moms and not grown men.
When did Honda start manufacturing their own tools?
All dealerships will rip you off
yes, only dealerships over charge you
Still Available some fault lies on the consumer for not knowing their car
Yeah, especially the garbage Acura dealership I took my 2001 TL to get my 02 sensor replaced. They were trying to rip me off of a tie rod, cv joint, and lied to me about my inspection sticker and the frame being rotted. The worst part is that the mechanic cut one of my exhaust hangers off in order to have my flex pipe separate so he can do more work on my car and get more money out of me. Even independent and franchise shops can rip you off. But the irony is, the Acura dealer was the only dealership that was trying to rip me off.
@@maximagmhondafan8892 True. That's why I don't go the dealer UNLESS I want to buy/sell a car or have them do a service that they can older do rather than an independent mechanic shop.
Speaking of independent mechanic shops, Pep Boys usually do services correctly and offer sweet discounts. And I can schedule an appointment
@Aurva Roy funny you’d mention, I work at pep boys. I HATE it. I plan on quitting this month and will end up working at a dealership, because that’s where all of the training is.
I have done my service at the el Cerrito dealer. Great experience and they never tried to rip me off. They ask me if I want certain things done and how much they cost. They never try to fool me and make me pay for extra stuffs. From my side, I am quite knowledgeable about vehicles, so I know what they are talking about. I go to the dealer to save my time and for the records. There are plenty of discounts online.
I would NEVER let a dealership touch my car!
Yeah until somebody else fck up ur car and u void ur warranty lol
@@vinichi3014 - Correct. Where I live right know, in Belgium, maintenance by a dealer is recommended.
They offer service assistance for free, also the service history adds value.
Pinching pennies doesn't always help.
There's more than just changing oil.
I wouldn’t if it wasn’t absolutely necessary. And the dealer has stopped doing car washes with each service, a big disappointment.
where is the compelling reason for the dealer to do the oil change?!
Well obviously it's because not everyone has the "honda specialty tools" painted torque wrench for your drain bolt, duh....
Good one. LOL
chris rinck LOL
chris rinck
You have to cascade the oil into the funnel. Not just anyone can do it. You have to be certified honda man. Theres specifications to rate of flow from oil can to the funnel.
If the owner can't do it himself due to lack of interest, time, or physical ability
Honda will rip you off wherever they can. Stay away from all Honda dealers
MIKE W thats any dealer in general
Bruh I had them change the brakes, they did change it but they didn't change the brake pads. When to the dealer for a oil change, then they said I need new pads guess what was the price to do that $300. Keep in mind I paid about $300 or more on brake rotor change. Aren't you supposed to change the rotors and pads at the same time? I will now do my car maintenance on my own and with the help of RUclips videos like ChrisFix.
I only went to the dealers maintenance because it was my first brand new car, and I want it to be taken care of, but hell parts are cheap for Hondas, and easy to install
yes, anytime you replace brake pads you should also replace the rotors, or at least machine the old rotors.
sully676 Cheaper to buy new part than machining it!
it's also better for the brake system, more rotor means there is more material to dissipate the heat to so it's less likely to warp and cause brake pulsation
My Honda dealer forgot to tighten the drain plug. Had a puddle on the garage floor. One and a half turns with my fingers before I a wrench on it! Lucky it didn't fall out.
just a note if this is a honda dealer why use an air gun on the wheels if you check the pack your locking wheel nuts comes in it shows never to use guns on them apart from that great work
Indeed you can see the wheels are attached with cosmetic lug nuts as well as a locking nut. An impact tool should never be used on these. It damages their appearance and can damage the chrome plating.
Because I have time to take them off by hand fuck that!!
I have no place where I can safely jack up my car so I felt I needed to have the work done for me. My 2015 Honda Fit has had 2 oil changes done by dealer service departments. This car has a plastic shroud that goes under the engine. It is fastened with 6 Phillips head self-tapping screws, that screw into metal clips which have holes in them, and 2 plastic 2-part fasteners push-pin fasteners. It is held up in the front by 2 lips that simply rest on top of the bumper shroud. First oil change, the technician put one of the front lips above the bumper shroud, and the other underneath. Second oil change, the tech missed the metal clip with one screw, leaving the screw just hanging loose, and the shroud flopping loose in one spot. This dealer provided a "free 19 point inspection" during which the tech neglected to close the battery cover over the positive terminal, putting it at risk of being shorted out. He also checked the tire pressure and set them to 35 psi, even though the spec is 33. Not a big deal, 2 extra pounds. But he neglected to tighten the valve stem caps, risking loss of the caps. He just sort of started them on the valve stems, and turned them down maybe only 1/2 a turn - in other words barely turned down, very losse, and likely to come off after a few miles. He did this with all 4 valve stem caps!
I find it strange that over in America you guys don’t seem to check suspension for play etc
I don’t know why people keep hating. Some people don’t know how to change oil or do stuff on their car. I think Honda does a great job. This video was a great video for me. Don’t bother to comment something stupid down below or on the replies.
All the people in the video were great at explaining about the car. Thanks for the heart!
Why put a oil reminder sticker on the windshield when you have an oil life monitor on the dash?
Its funny. I have never been to a Honda dealer where they didn't find one thing they tried to ding me for. If this tech guy keeps this up, he'll be out of a job.
Nice to see he didn't use an oil wrench to tighten it. There is no need to prime the oil filter. Maybe a nine inch diesel filter that went straight up but auto is not needed. It will pump oil fast enough and there is still oil up inside. You won't get it all by the time your done draining. Many very expensive cars have canisters or are on angles where the oil would run out of the filter by the time you screwed the new one on.
One of the frustrating things about having the oil changed by the Honda dealer is that they tighten the oil pan bolt back on so much that I have to use a breaker bar to loosen it when doing the next oil change at home. I’ve asked them not to do this but they do it anyway. The oil filter hasn’t been a problem. How do you know you’re actually getting synthetic oil at the dealer!
Go for a simple oil change then they lie to you About all the work that you need and of course it’s a safety issue to try to put more pressure on you to spend a lot of money and their service advisors get commission for everything they sell to you that you don’t need
While waiting in the customer lounge for my new civic I had the pleasure to watch the "service girl " approach every customer and report other findings while doing a oil change. She sold about 3 new Honda batteries in 15 minutes. Because their cold cranking amps were down and she would hate to see such a nice old man stuck this winter with a dead battery. Everyone needed wiper blades to.
Troy Ziegler I was a CSM at a Toyota dealer for 8 years.
What you witnessed was orchestrated salesmanship .
Screw the dealer. My local one charges $30 just to rotate the tires. Dudes already have my car on the lift for an oil change, so why that much more just to air gun on/off the tires? You know damn well they don't use a torque wrench anyway. Even quick lubes rotate the tires for free with an oil change.
Honda dealerships don't even change the oil filter at every oil change. The say that it is recommended by Honda that they change the oil filter every other oil change. Screw that, change your own oil that way you know it's done the right way.
Totally agree.....with exceptions. I use an independent shop.
At 1:52, Peter Griffin (I mean, Steven) allows the end of the air hose to smack the wheel. Around 4:00, he says they'll do "another torque with a manual torque wrench". By then, it's too late because the lug nuts have most likely been inconsistently and excessively torqued following the use of the "torque sticks" that are seen lying on the workbench as part of the "special Honda tool assortment".
Peter Griffin? AHAHAHAHAHH
My local Honda dealer here in Canada doesn't do any inspection on brakes,tires or lights ...Only reason I go to Honda is that they r cheaper as compare to market place ..I pay about $60 CAD for 0W20 Full synthetic whereas other places such a Canadian tire charge me $90 for full synthetic oil change ....
This is why a 20 minute oil change actually ends up taking an hour and a half or longer.
Last time I got a oil change, they also recommended that I replace the brake pads, rotors and tires.... All for the grand total of $1,000. If I would have followed their suggestions, that would have been one hell of an expensive oil change.
he did not prime the oil filter change the crush washer for the engine oil drain plug! !!!!! poor servicing
Good catch! Thanks for watching!
Jesse Allen what you mean prime oil filter? If you think any place will fill oil filter with oil first your insane. Your also an idiot, the car was running when they drove it into shop. It still has a coating of oil on every part in the engine. It would take many days, possibly weeks for that oil film to fully dry and leave internal parts unprotected. Even if it did dry you think the 1 second it takes for the oil filter to fill affects anything? You leave a comment thinking you know more than a mechanic but you don't know shit. The toyota 2.2 liter engine they used for 30 years is considered one of the most reliable engines ever produced and the oil filter is screwed on from the top, therefore inpossible to 'prime'. Same with every subaru engine.
Only the newer FA engines on the Subarus have the oil filter on top. The 22R engines from Toyota are tanks that run for a long time.
Considering this is a honda dealer, they probably follow the manufacturer's instructions to the letter. One of those instructions is do not fill the oil filter before installing. I don't know why, or if it could damage the engine in anyway (probably not,) but since these guys are certified honda mechanics, they have to follow all of honda's rules.
Once you have a gasket stick to the oil pump face, you'll never forget it again. Unless you check for the old gasket before installing the new filter.
The only reason the dealer wants to do your oil change is so they can see if they can get you for more money somewhere else no other reason at all do not be fooled. Worked in a dealer for over 10 years
The best oil changes with the best products are the ones I do myself. Much to the objection of some dealership mechanics, I mean "automotive technicians", I've managed to change my own oil without causing a thermonuclear meltdown.
However, if for some reason I cannot do the job, I'd pick a Honda dealer (or whatever dealership for your vehicle make) over any oil change place. You will at least be getting good oil and filter. You probably won't be paying much more for a full synthetic oil change than you would at a quick lube shop. It may not be as fast as a quick lube place, but there is a much less chance that they will screw it up. Quick lube places are notorious for putting on the wrong filter, cheap filters, putting the filter on wrong, stripping oil pan threads or substituting cheap oil.
Agreed its the dealer for me for anything I cant do myself. Honda deaers here in Atlanta are roughly the same price as independant shops and you know they are using OEM parts.
This is why i stopped going to quicky lube places. $70 for 10 minutes of labor. His only job was to change the oil and he didnt even bother check the dipstick (!) just dumps the oil in and then assumes the level is ok and then wanders off. Didnt replace the crush washer now it might leak so hopefully the next guy checks the oil level
What he did is reset the "maintenance minder" light, not the "oil" light. He said it almost right the first time, "the maintenance light." There is a red oil light in addition to the yellow maintenance minder light. It indicates if the oil pressure is low, and may indicate if the level is low. It is not something that can be "reset." "This car has no power steering; it has electric power steering." Maybe he meant that the car has no power steering FLUID? If the car has any disk brakes, one does NOT want to see the brake fluid reservoir filled all the way up, unless the brake pads are at new thickness. As the pads wear, as they have in this car, the fluid level goes down. If with the pads worn, the reservoir is topped up, then when new pads are installed, the reservoir will overflow. Very messy. Cars are designed so that as the pads wear all the way down, there will still be plenty of fluid in the reservoir. It will be above the minimum line, as well as below the maximum line. Tire tread depth should be measured on several points on each tire, several points along the width, several points around the circumference. In addition to tread depth, they should be inspected for evenness of wear. If any tires shows uneven wear, further diagnosis is necessary to see if it indicates a need for balancing, wheel alignment, or replacement of suspension parts such as ball joints or tie rod ends.
that is what any garage will do if you book it in for a full service and you don't check brake fluid like that colour some times doesn't change have to check it with a tool. and in a service that air filter should of been changed and you forgot the pollen filter too
He said I m gonna inspect the washer fluid lol...such a big inspection that would be checking washer fluid
Oil filters should be secured hand tight... Standard procedure
Why in oil change at 5000 miles? Your maintenance minder probably only shows 50%, changing oil is a waste of money. Do you know why they tell you to change your oil so soon it's because Honda changed their oil filter to a cheaper one made by Fram. Look for Honda 15400-PLM-A01 Oil Filter! The cheaper filter ends in -A02! I know this because of my previous Accord had over 400,000 miles before I gave it to my nephew, Quality oil and filter makes the difference.
Retsel Yarrh i change my car oil 3k miles
shoot I don't change mine but once every 10,000 miles.
It tells you in the dashboard when it needs to be change!!! How can you miss the warning in there?
I know I'm wasting money but I live by the 3000 mile rule. I've been changing oil on my 1999 Ford Taurus myself since new for the past 18 years/240,000 miles and never had a major issue with the engine or the transmission (every 2 years for the trans). The only issue is that the body will be the death of the car at this stage because it's rusted to hell.
Environmentally speaking a very bad old habit. Modern day oils and cars do not need to have oil changed this frequently. It's a waist of money and resources plus unnecessary pollution. It's not 1950's any more when your grand father told you so.
I always thought that Gastrol GTX was as good as or better than the Honda branded oil. I still only use the Honda Oil Filter. I change my oil myself. But, the cost of everything is going up - including the do-it-yourself oil change. The Honda Engines can last a half a million miles as long as you don't change the timing belt late.
cgrscott
Do you buy the oil filter at the Honda dealer or amazon?
You guys don't even check tire pressure..
Last time I took my 2017 Civic to an oil change I got a Flat tire just getting out of the dealer, the guy didn't tell me I got a nail in the tire and a tire pressure light on the dashboard was on.. So I came back to fix it and they said "I'm sorry we don't fix flat tires but we can put some air on it" that sucks
It's not rocket science to fill the oil filter with some oil before you put it on try to save those bearings any way you can plus it's just good procedure if the oil filter goes straight up and down the dealership just clowns people around anyway
My friend got a battery installed at a Honda stealership in Lynn,mass. They never connected the J bolts that hold the battery in place. They broke one off.Terminal cable had a screw put in it so the terminal wouldn't move around. What the F. They call themselves mechanics. I ordered new J bolts on EBay and replaced them. I convinced him no more stealerships. He uses my local ASE approved mechanic.
i do my own repairs lol. but its kool you guys check everything.
Since when is a torque wrench a "honda special tool?" All the correct tools to do the job correctly? Really, a few wrenches, sockets, ratchet, torque wrench....really a lot of tools.Just a BS video to get you to use a Honda dealer and give them money you can save by doing all yourself. And you can LEGALLY change your own oil and filter.
+4psi on hot tires, clean the hubs, studs and lug nuts before you put those tires back on
I never sow when the remove the plastic protector under the engine! I took my 2015 first time and i never got down to do inspection after service, after 6 months surprise!! under cover missing! Gardena Honda.check your car after service tire nuts , key lock, small interior parts! You won’t realize is missing until you need it!
He neglected to rotate the tires. Tire rotation interval about equals the oil change interval.
He neglected to put a new washer on the oil drain plug which is specified by Honda.
I found it funny how he used a torque wrench on the drain plug but did not use a torque wrench on the oil filter which has a torque specification written on the filter. It does also specify turns after contacting base but that is not as precise. When he tightened the oil filter, he just tightened it by feel. In reality, I find it hard to believe they use a torque wrench at all as they are in such a rush.
I do all of those procedures when I change the oil on my Honda but use a better oil, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Synthetic. I would not trust the dealer to service my car.
You save half if you do it yourself. Pluus all the extra can be done under 10min too.
If you torque my lug nits a you break it off. Do you replace it free of charge?
Why wouldnt you want to take your Honda to the Honda dealerships for oil changes? I bought a 16 civic and ive been taking it to the same dealer for service. I thought if you do this itll be better for the car since they check everything. If you do it yourself you might miss something or what do you guys think? Should i just do the oil changes myself?
I wonder if he changed the aluminum crush washer. Plus Hondas never take a full 5 quarts.
Lol stop acting like you guys know everything pointing out every mistake he does. The truth is, the $20 corner mechanic wont do magic on your car he will most likely rip you off too at some point. Take your honda (or any car) to the dealer they'll use genuine parts at just $39 for a complete full synthetic oil change. At leats thats what my local honda charges.
Told neighbor lady had to remove passenger seat to change in cabin air filter on CRV. Charged $150.00. Lying Bastards.
I usually do my own oil change. But the last time I've been at a Honda dealer, they dropped the oil filler cap seal in the back of the engine(next to PCV valve). No idea how the seal came out of the cap. At the next oil change, I had to use both hands to remove the cap. Also, I asked for Synthetic oil and paid a high premium for that. That was the crappiest oil I ever paid for, my wife complained for months that the engine is noisy and lack of power. I just change the oil last week, engine regained its energy.
the video. I have a question. Does it happen sometimes to you when you start driving after your car was parked for about 5 to 7 hours or overnight you start breaking slightly and your car breakers abroptly and hard? It happens on my Honda hrv 2019 and the car has only 700 miles! But then after driving 5 minutes more the car breakers normally softly and gently!
If that's the case, that means you're brakes are new. When you have new brakes, you don't have to press the pedal as hard to make it stop. And since you have 700 miles on your SUV, I'm assuming your SUV is brand new. New cars obviously have new brakes.
Just noticed this was 7 years ago so price has gone up 😢😢😢
that guy didn't put new oil on the gasket thing on the oil filter
So what? Nothings going to happen LOL. As long as it has some oil... it's fine.
LMAO awww you got butt hurt because you're so clueless?
Just go to the dealer get the oil and filter and do it yourself, it costs just the same as another brand
Why the fuck would I waste time torquing drain plugs and wheel nuts???? Wtf tight is tight my arm and my impact are the torq wrench
Very true. But if you work at these places they want you to do that crap to these new shit wagons .
I've never heard of a dealer or shop use quarts when changing oil kinna strange to me
Fuck the dealers...
Why? They cost the same as independant shop. Honda dealer quoted me 180 to change front brakes and resurface rotor. Independant shop wanted 170 and who knows what parts they will use. I rather trust my car with ppl who work on the same cars everyday.
I have never seen a dealer inflate the tire with proper tire pressure.....
Blinker fluid change included👌🏽👍🏽
"Honda Oil"? Is it synthetic? Is it hybrid? Is it multi-vis?
Wow, they actually torqued the lug nuts?
Why ? Because they will try to change things that don't you have to change ... rip you off
Last thing we are going to do is bill you 300 dollars to maintain our dealership in profit of course that's off camera.
It's a Honda Not BMW or Mercedes take it to ur local garage get an oil change for 30 bucks if it has too many problems sell it finance another one for 300 bucks a month
I m wondering he change the drain washer or not?
At least this video gave me a good laugh...
you have to sale your house to pay for oil change @ honda dealer
Do you get a report with all the data?
Yes, on everything checked.
I would never trust a stinking dealer where they take the car around the back and you never see what they do. One time I went in for an oil change and it ended up that the oil was never changed but they had me pay anyway. I didn't realize until later that the oil was the dirty old oil
Another time my one year old's car muffler was replaced with an old rusty muffler. Again, I did not notice this until months later and by that time I could not prove they did it due to lapse of time. My friend took his car for an oil change and he drove off without oil in the car. One dealer mechanic related how the mechanics do remove parts and replace them with old parts and I am proof of that. One was a Honda dealer, one a Lexus and one a Pontiac.
What's the torque value on drain plug and filter? thx for the video
Good for people who never open the hood of their car, but for others, a waste of time
Change engine oil EVERY 50 hours of engine operation or 3,500 miles. ANY kind of oil gets DIRTY and no filter can clean it that well.
Also, ALWAYS use a COUPON for an oil change at Honda. Most Honda dealers will match coupons from other Honda dealers (sometimes also Acura dealers, too).
Civic does not take 5 quarts! Less than 4.
Fewer, not "less."
This is an Accord V6, it takes 4.5, but yea, 5 is still wrong I agree
LOL V6? It's a 4 banger, go get an eye check
good thing that Honda didn't have the plastic on the bottom above the oil pan. I'm sure they would have hacked it up so they wouldn't have to remove it like on my wife's car.
J Rod *below
magincap70 oooohhhhkaaaay!
You would hope and expect that what is shown in this video will be done on your car. What happens is far from this....
I think most pro's try... Thanks for watching!
First of all you need 4.5 q of oil not 5. Second you don't need an oil change sticker for 5k miles because depending on how you drive and where, the oil change might be needed anywhere from 5k to 10k. I am at 6k and my dashboard says I got 10% of oil life left. So you could potentially waste a lot of $ by doing the oil change too often. Honda put that oil change indicator in the dash for a reason. Also when you install a. Ew oil filter you need to lubricate de filter gasket. The guy in the video did it, but didn't say it need to be done. Poorly informative video at best
I'm curious because my 2013 civic shows 50% after almost 5000 miles, and it showed 50% even before going on a 440 mile long road trip. The oil looks pretty dark so I might go get it changed soon but i just hope that meter isn't wrong...
Steven s it depends a lot on how and here u drive. In town and stop and go wears out the oil 2 times more than regular driving. So instead of the 10k miles interval for the oil change it goes down to 5k or so like in my case. Actually the mileage at 5% for me was 5200 miles. That's when I changed the oil. You don't need to change your oil at 50%. The car's computer calculates the right interval for the oil change. The oil looks dark after just a few hundred miles. So that's not the right way to tell when the oil change is needed. Just go by the dashboard. I would wait until it shows 10% or less. Otherwise you are wasting your $ and time. Our hondas use full synthetic oil which is rated up to 12k miles. That is what Mobil claims.
I'm just really concerned it's stuck at 50% and it's actually at 5 or something because it hasn't budged in the last 500 or so miles
u should change it at 15%
Darkness of oil isn't an indicator. Just today I had drained oil out of an engine only five minutes after I put oil in it. (I put in the wrong weight.) I hadn't cranked the car. The oil was as black as if it had been in there for 10,000 miles.
Look for honda dealer coupons. I usually get a oil change for $19.99
mark the oil filter with marker and check after they might not even do the work.
Excellent job but I’ve found many dealers actually charging for services they haven’t done. Yep caught quite a few meaning for me it’s almost 50/50. That’s why I don’t bring my car to the dealer. It’s goes for American dealerships as well as foreign car. Some of you guys are literally THIEVES.
wow... a lot of bashing going on in this comment section...lol.. but you know what? almost everyone is correct, do these things yourself, and if you cant, find a bf/husband that can do it for you. the dealer will sock it to you, plus i always enjoy knowing that i after i am done working on my car i do not have to worry about a dealer mistake. and honda oil? lol..no thanks..mobil 1 full synthetic here. 5qts $10 bucks online with rebate when available...you just gotta look.
That's why I don't bring it to the dealer to service
What about the cabin filter?
Did not put oil in filter before installing it, as expected.
The oil filter is horizontal on most Hondas. Your suggestion won't work for anything more than a minimal amount of oil.
Guess how much it is for a Bugatti oil change y’all Complaining about 110 try $20,000 for a oil change you have to bring it too them are you void the warranty
I bring my car to Honda for 39.95
"first thing we do is pencil whip the white paper" You lost me at "we check lights".
so it doesn't have power steering, then in the next breath it has electric power steering, so it HAS power steering.
Then he checks tyre pressure, says its 32 psi WRONG, front is always more than the back in a honda front wheel drive car
so not all 32 psi, dealers are always lying about everything just to get more money from the poor noob drivers
Thanks for your comments and watching!
He was checking fluids and mentioned no power steering...as in there's no need to check ps fluid because there isn't any. Also, the specified pressure for that accord is 32psi front/rear per the owners manual. I hate a stealership as much as the next guy but lets leave the criticizing to things that are actually stupid like the "honda specialty tools" torque wrench and torque-limiting impact extensions, lol.
if you can't change your own fluids and you have time to do so your just lazy I don't trust the dealer's they overcharge and they always find something wrong even if you fixed it already
1:09. This car has no power steering...It has electric power steering......... Which is it? If you don't know, don't touch my car.
He clearly meant it doesn't have a power steering fluid tank to check. While dealer oil changes are a rip-off, you are being a bit of an ass on that one.
I don’t trust the Honda service department at the dealership I bought my car from.
But I just want an oil change.
lol its like he wants to explain and teach but hes not allowed to lol.