I'm a Michigan fan. I don't get caught up in the rivalry so much. I did more when I was younger (51 now). I just love the game and admire the hard work these athletes put into playing at the their very best each and every weekend during the season. I think we all at the end of the day are fans of football. We appreciate what it takes to play at this level. Congratulations to the Buckeyes on an outstanding season. Great group of young men who handled defeat Saturday with class. I don't like the word defeat. That really applies to those who give up. There is no giving up with OSU players. One team loses according to the scoreboard but all these guys on both teams deserve the respect they earned by leaving it all on the field. Again, congrats Buckeyes and I look forward to watching more games between both programs.
I've noticed the same thing with Marvin. I get the feeling he's had enough of McCord and is ready to move onto the NFL. In contrast, Olave & Wilson always gave 100% when they were on the field. No lackadaisical slow walks back to the huddle.
I think everyone can agree Ryan Day is a fantastic human being. With that said his play calling Saturday was nothing new. All season long play calling was vanilla. I thought, well he’s holding back for the Michigan game. All season long very little pass rush. You guys said it was by design. I think JT and Jack are special players but I feel we have never seen their full potential. Why?? All game I was waiting for those new wrinkles and I only saw Michigan do it. We are kicking 52 yard field goals and they are going for it on 4th down three times. They did that because they felt they had to do it to beat us. They were all invested. All or nothing. I really thought Day had learnt his lesson after last year’s game. We were all in facing Georgia. Butttt his nut sack shrunk and he reverted back to vanilla again. Also on Michigan last drive we should have brought the house and seen if we could get the ball back with more time. Knowles nut sack shrunk. With all that we still damn near won. A little magic and we would have won. I felt all a long we were the better team and I still feel we are. They just wanted it more. That’s what hurts the most.
@@taxisquad11 That sound a little like lazy thinking. Day was OC at BC for only 2 years (14-12 record) before coming to OSU as a Co-OC, and he didn’t call plays that year. The following year he was lone OC in Meyer’s offense. The following year he became HC and installed his offense. He’s been unimaginative in design and predictable in play calling. When their talent is better than 95% of their opponents, they can execute to predictable results. When facing teams with talent that’s just as good, coaching matters both on Saturdays and the week leading up to it. Day has not been successful with any consistency against teams in their hemisphere of talent.
Kirk, am interested in your take. (25 years coaching in Big 10, PAC 12, MAC, small college…Buckeye living in AA.) Don James used to talk about effort habit and effort at the margins. For example, your the backside WR and your assignment is to block the FS in the middle of the field. Odds are it will be difficult to get to FS unless the RB cuts it back. But, if you don’t bust your ass to get there you won’t be there when the cut back does takes place. I continue to see this effort at the margins not taking place. I would guess Marvin looked at the coverage and determined, based on alignment, he wasn’t going to get the ball. Effort at the margin still dictates that you go full speed all the time…then you become a DB and break up the pass. If you are not giving effort all the time this does not happen. The special team I always coached was kick-off coverage. I had one rule, no matter how deep the kick-off went into the end zone you sprinted full speed until you were inside the 10 yard line. During my time there were no fair catches. However, I see players on kick-off coverage for OSU jogging as far out as the 25-30 yard line on a fair catch. It drives me nuts. Is it not being coached that even on a fair catch if the receiver muffs the catch the ball is live. The more players down field the better the chance to cover the ball. This does not happen if you are not giving effort at the margins. I’m not suggesting that players are not playing hard at the point of attack, but boy do I see a lack of effort at the margins. As a DC, we graded the number of players around the ball the moment the BC hits the ground. It’s what I called hats on the ball. This is one of the improvements I’ve seen from the defense this season. Effort at the margins is a coaching thing. Coach Hayes used to say when he was critiquing a coach for the play of one of their players…you’re either coaching it that way or you’re letting it happen. I fear they’re letting this happen in places and that makes all the difference in a game where a play or two can make the difference in the outcome!
Would really like to see us go back to a mobile quarterback. The ability to make plays with your feet to break down defenses is crucial and it’s been why I think we’ve struggled offensively in the game the last few years. Smith, Terrell, Braxton, and Fields all were mobile. All won the game and could avoid a rush and pick up critical yards in critical downs.
@@michaelcap9550 Yep. I loved CJ but his best game was against Georgia when he ran. I think he would have ran the whole time but I believe Barton and Nevada are right….I think Day coaches this out of them. Even Krenzel could scramble. Zwick, Beckman, CJ, and now McCord all are too easy to defend.
To win against the best teams we need to force the opposing defenses to account for QB run. You saw in bowl game last year Rising was killing us with QB run … until he got knocked out of the game 🤷♂️
these "kids" are now professional athletes making more money than most of their fan base so hell yes you should be critical of their play! No more hiding behind "student athletes "
Exactly what I've been saying..I mean these dudes have 6-7 figure bank accounts wearing shoes that cost my mortgage payment and $ 50,000 necklaces.. that's as pro as it gets lol
Correct, that's why I don't take any of the rah rah seriously. I have never purchased OSU gear and never will. I won't even attend the games. Its free entertainment, like the NFL on TV. Nothing more.
These guys are a little older than I was when I went through basic training in the Army. They ain't babies and shouldn't be treated as such. They are fortunate to be where they are and it would be good for them to understand that.
Damn finally sees the game without the number and name on the jersey! That throw Never should have been thrown but OMG Marvin didn't run a crisp route, completely gave up on the play. You have to attack a quick slant hard! He faded and then didn't even man up after the pick, just stood there! I am so sick of people acting like he walks on water! I completely agree that he is already looking to the NFL 100%. In his mind it was, ok I just have one more game to get through, then I can sit out the bowl game and go to the NFL.
Agreed ! They like he is above correction or something. Any one with eyes can seen that was a piss poor effort. Why is Kirk of all people apologizing so much for pointing that out on Marv? Kirk has earned the right to say that effort wont be the team up north. That was a huge play.
@@r.searcy5627 Right! Every person that truly knows football knows you must cut hard and be strong on every slant over the middle! Come see Devante Adams work and he will show you how to run a grown man quick slant. Because in the NFL.... that ish won't fly. His Dad is one of the best technicians at WR that the NFL has ever seen. But don't get it twisted, Reggie Wayne predominantly ran the quick slants Lol.
I think Frye cobbled together an o-line with a MTN West player at LT, a long-time project at RT, a kid who wasn't AT ALL ready to be a B1G center at center, and two guards who have been here for a while and have been average players and nothing more. I thought they improved throughout the season as a group, but I mostly think that Ryan Day's offensive philosophy SEVERELY hampers ANY o-line coach's ability to develop great run blockers. Any o-line coach who works in Day's QB/WR-driven offense under Day's mandates will have a VERY hard time producing meat grinding o-linemen. Thats just not what Day wants, so I thought Frye did pretty well under those circumstances. Now, that does NOT mean I was happy with the o-line -- they've been unable to consistently run the football since 2020, or virtually since Day took over -- but whoever coaches that unit is being hamstrung by the head coach from day one on the job until the day he leaves (maybe for IU), so I'm not sure why anyone would think another new o-line coach would change anything. What needs to change is Day's offense philosophy... but it won't.
Ohio State gets the best talent and sends guys to the next level. They aren't bringing home the hardware. This year was a hope that they could get it done, but early in the year we knew there were big issues. Especially with QB play and on-line. Like Kirk said awhile ago, we need some responsible degenerates (DAWGS)
Kyle does have cement feet. Watch him try to catch the DT from Penn State whose picking up a fumble and running for a touchdown was called back. It was frightening how much faster the DT was than Kyle
Day and Knowles can figure this team out. They are a good team that were a few plays from winning that game. I’m still a believer in Ohio State football
You’re spot on about star players often going @ 80 to 100 % in order to stay healthy. Receivers for example, will never go full out running routes. That’s the difference between HOF guys and everyone else.
On that play where McChord threw that last pick he had one of his safety valve RB's (#0) wide open with nobody within 30+ yards of him. The dude could easily have run the ball down inside the 15 and maybe more and that might have given another 3 shots into the end zone. Kyle rushes things and makes hasty bad decisions and that's my main issue with him.
Kyle is obviously not good at his reads/ progressions yes. But if you just throws on time to Marv coming out of his break it doesn't matter that Donny trips. And it's a completed pass. But nope he holds it too long like he often does
@@hijj7676 The big problem is that he targets Marvin ALL THE TIME and this costed him dearly on both picks. He had a safety valve RB who had nobody within 30 yards of him and that's who you go to when under pressure. Either that or throw it away but you don't force a throw like he did and has done all year long.
Well i know it hurts but with next years playoff format we are in regardless and have a great run and win it all we would be a little more forgiving, give one more year to see what happens, AD smith doesn't want this kinda mess going out anyway.
I cannot remember a time when the OLine was this bad! On the second INT, the left guard got run over which led to Kyle trying to throw while being tackled! All five offensive linemen graded in the 40s and 50s for this game! What is even worse is that we are not recruiting big boys up front on both sides of the ball! We need to redirect our recruiting efforts to the trenches!!! Look at Georgia, and Alabama’s recruiting classes for 2024, and 2025! They are getting all of the big boys. If we cannot recruit the 4, and 5 star dudes, then we should concentrate on Ohio talent with potential, and develop them over 3-4 years! We have to return to trench warfare!
Agree on the aversion of Day to having his QB’s run. It really hamstrings our offense not having this in the tool kit. You honestly don’t even need to have your quarterback run often to force the defense to account for it. A couple 5 to 10 yarders per game is all you need. We didn’t get that at all this year. I would have liked to seen it the entire year, but the Michigan game would have been the perfect opportunity to spring it.
How do we wind up with Honda as our best option when we are the super highway to the NFL - also totally agree no threat of QB run kills our running game. Our recruiting and usage of the portal needs to be better and we need to present the threat of QB run.
Ewers seen Ryan Cooper and his tendencies and knew what was gonna happen. Ewers left so he'd actually be the man and now he is. A shame but don't blame him for leaving. Day has lost a lot of folks, not just decommits and portal activity. Don't think the folks with the money at OSU are blind and don't see what's going on. Money talks, Day has next year to square away his Michigan problems or he's toast and it's not looking good for the next 3 years for this team. They're actually going to be much worse next year in comparison to this year
Whoever the QB coach is for OSU needs to be let go. Kyle was our BEST?? OMG. Day is afraid to dip into the portal in fear of hurting someones feelings.
Go back and watch Xavier Johnson’s catch. His knee doesn’t hit the ground. First Down, but of course they spot him short. Wondering why Day didn’t challenge it?
The only ones that have life changes are all the millionaires being made in college football coaching!! Being a fan is transitory and always looking to next year!! It’s a game and has never changed my life. Having my son playing football and baseball was my best experience with sports!!
Coach Day has hitched his wagon to the Kyle McCord train. I still think Kyle can be a really good QB with some more off season work. And thus, I KNOW Coach Day does as well.
If Ryan Day gets the boot, no guarantee that they will be better than the past coaches. It takes time to develop a chemistry with the players and staff. Losing to TTUN is sad, especially to a cheater who needs his ego pricked and not let off the hook for his actions
You mean Michigan? Say it 3 times...Michigan Michigan Michigan and we will appear in the mirror behind you. Wait until we take your arrogant pride again in 2024.
Unless someone’s coming in to structure a sound offensive game plan and design effective offensive plays, it doesn’t matter who else comes in to the staff.
We need to have some balls and run some of these guys who dont have fire out of this program, also we need to poach the best OL coach out there. We have so many resources and we are afraid to use them
go back and watch the 2019 Clemson playoff game. This team just simply does not POP like that one did. They just hit differently. All around different, harder feel to them then. GO WATCH!!!
He's always locked in on one receiver. Doesn't go through progressions at all. He's not accurate either. Our QB room is subpar. McCord is not the answer. Neither is Brown. Maybe Leinholz
I don't understand it because he's athletic enough to run. You can tell Ryan Day is telling them not to run. How do you have our WR's, TE,RB and finish 38th in offense.
Allot of our juniors could come improve their draft stocks by coming back one more season. Only Marv jr and Burke will go as high as they are rated are now are gone imo
Ohio State is fixable. Special teams coach is a given. Need new qb coach who can call plays from box. Offensive line needs fixing and Justin Frye recruiting is failing. He is the hard one to let go but how long do u let recruiting fail. Maybe we don’t have enough nil money. We must score 30 plus points against Georgia and Michigan to have a shot at winning.
Head Coach Change and QB change #1. Maybe the offense was toned down so this QB could grasp the concepts... It would be nice to be something other than the last stop to the NFL and have some starters stay for the senior year and help win the BIG games.
Day needs to relook at his former coaches that had the winning records against michigan and rethink what he his doing also we need a quarterback that is a running threat and more mobile
I said something nice ab Ryan, now it's time to get real. I know a spooked coach when I see it. In The Game & in big game moments. 42 secs UGA. The culture is Gucci bags & Louis Vuitton cleats. It's 1 thing to wear that stuff to the Heisman show or if u're a big-time draft pick but u need dogs & that's not how I would show up for a game especially when it's my rival. I've been bitching ab the QB run for as long as u guys have. It's disgusting, it makes us easy as hell to Game Plan & I think it is cost us at least 2 maybe 3 of these big games. U don't have to run that much when u're playing scrubs but u need to keep sh*t honest & we play with 1 hand tied bh our back on O.
I don't understand wanting to blitz more. Like 2022? Being too aggressive lost us The Game last year. To look at a defense that gave us a chance to drive for the win at the end of the game and want them to do something that didn't work last year, and hasn't worked against Michigan all year (JJ is great against blitz), is so insane to me. The 2 INT's and 3&out after UM went up 24-17 lost the game. Defense played great
We don't need to be more aggressive on defense I agree. We need to be more aggressive on Offense. 4 and 2, 4 and 1 then punt majority of time we end up in those situations in close games is not what we need. He plays it safe and has questionable play calling and questionable decisions. His playing it safe demeanor and questionablity trickles down to Kyle Mcord and has a domino affect. If somebody ask me today what player on the Buckeyes most resembles Days coaching I would say Kyke Mcords. Basically if Days coaching was a individuals college football player it would be Kyle McCord!! Hesitant, not aggressive, can't read a defense, horrible rushing stats when rushing is needed. Also questionable play calling, lack of game control, low Qb IQ when it comes to Qb vision, and bad pocket presence
The Youngstown State head coach needs to be linked to Columbus too. Kinda repeating history but he’s leading them to the playoffs. Idk if Youngstown is going to win, but he’s doing something right.
Unfair to Texas if they win their conference championship game convincingly and they have a huge win over Alabama that blows away wins over sorry ass Notre Dame and Penn State.
play calling is horrific past two years! We were out coached and don't develop the players like we should just look at this class three years ago on 24-7 sports compared to Michigan class, there is no way they should have beating us, out coached out developed!
Playing wise Ohio State would deserve to back into the oasis with a similar final week as last year. I do think with this playoff format you have to give it to another big time program with all things equal. I think Harrison’s effort is symbolic of the team in general. Good overall but not championship for 60 minutes. I think that’s why the SEC has such competitive tabs. High level competition. Ohio State, the past couple years, have just basically had to play Michigan. ND was a good game this year but part of the problem with McCord’s one half production is some type of fire lacking eh the team.
Kyle McCord is not the quarterback for OSU. Coach Day is 56-7. Now this is McCord s first year. He needs to improve drastically. The season is not over. Let's play it out. Go Bucks!
Well guys I think we definitely need some portal players at least two offensive lineman they got to be a good amount better than we already have two defensive lineman and then McCord and brown as far as I'm concerned is not the offense that we runs type of quarterbacks and they're not that good and they need replaced so if we could get two guys out of the transfer portal and let them battle it out mobile quarterbacks that can pass good but it can run when they need to and then our team will be complete as far as players and if we get the right coaches that we need to replace which I mentioned that on my last comment will be set go Buckeyes
LJ needs to go, the DL has been underperforming for years, Parker Fleming needs to go obviously. Mick Marotti might need to go aswell. And Ryan day might need to give up play calling and focus on being the HC
I said from day one, it would all come down to McCord and it did. He sucks. If anything, Our Buckeyes overachieved in the sense that we went 11-1 with a new QB. McCord was average at best and it is unfortunate. The Michigan game was all on McCord. The two picks were game-changers. I like Day and I think he has done a great job. If the kicker had made the FG last year against UGA, we would have won the NATY.
The defense had been solid all season. O-line had improved its passed protection and run game. Kyle McCord remains inconsistent in his passing accuracy, fails to progress through his reads leaving WRs wide open, and unable to adjust in the pocket. My son and I believed McCord was the X Factor in the “The Game” and could be the one to keep us from reaching the CFP. While I agree that his statement after the game is true, “it’s just a game” it spoke volumes about his competitiveness. Play the game with some passion or stop playing it all together.
One thought: On the interception play, if that was an RPO, did Marv think the ball was going to Trey and not coming to him and that was why he was loafing that route? As you said, it was totally blocked up for a good run. Did Kyle change his mind a the last moment and throw to a receiver who was not expecting to receive it?
Its an RPO so it could go either way. Should it have been a give, absolutely. But he doesn't know, his job is to run a hard quick slant and he won't have much separation, that is way you cut hard and you attack the ball. He 100% was the reason that was a pick. Well, he is sitting out the bowl game now, He must have talked to Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Nick Bosa....
I called this game 24-20 on other pages last week for UM. I said McCord will throw a INT on final drive or sack-fumble it. I figured we would have 2 in the game and UM would have 1... wish they had that 1 somewhere when they got a TD . maybe that endzone? We lost to #2 now.. should put us at 6.. OR-Wash loser we will jump to 5 so we just need FSU to lose to Louisville.. and wouldn't CFB and the networks LOVE to see UGA vs OSU again for HUGE RATINGS and cause it was so close last year. Question is.. will Lousville show up.. or will $$$$ be behind the scenes given to Louisville by ACC to throw the game so FSU can get in? if FSU gets in .. UGA would win 41-10 if OSU gets in UGA 34 OSU 20 but OSU will be in it still in the 4th quarter.
I like Jim Knowles, he has done a lot for the program. I think it would be a shame if he left. Parker Fleming should go. When you say Ryan does not take advice that is concerning. Even I, as little as I know can see he shouldn't call plays. I can also see the difference in CJ who was completely comfortable in the pocket and Kyle is awkward. I think tgat is the difference between the good ones and the great ones.
I'm a Michigan fan. I don't get caught up in the rivalry so much. I did more when I was younger (51 now). I just love the game and admire the hard work these athletes put into playing at the their very best each and every weekend during the season. I think we all at the end of the day are fans of football. We appreciate what it takes to play at this level. Congratulations to the Buckeyes on an outstanding season. Great group of young men who handled defeat Saturday with class. I don't like the word defeat. That really applies to those who give up. There is no giving up with OSU players. One team loses according to the scoreboard but all these guys on both teams deserve the respect they earned by leaving it all on the field. Again, congrats Buckeyes and I look forward to watching more games between both programs.
How nice! Thanks and I congratulate Michigan on its success this year! Now go win it all!
No way
I've noticed the same thing with Marvin. I get the feeling he's had enough of McCord and is ready to move onto the NFL. In contrast, Olave & Wilson always gave 100% when they were on the field. No lackadaisical slow walks back to the huddle.
Marvin Harrison and Kyle McCord are BEST FRIENDS since high school man. What are you talking about? 🙄
He should be annoyed. McCord cost him a freaking Heisman with his terrible passes, interceptions and intentional grounding penalties.
I think everyone can agree Ryan Day is a fantastic human being. With that said his play calling Saturday was nothing new. All season long play calling was vanilla. I thought, well he’s holding back for the Michigan game. All season long very little pass rush. You guys said it was by design. I think JT and Jack are special players but I feel we have never seen their full potential. Why?? All game I was waiting for those new wrinkles and I only saw Michigan do it. We are kicking 52 yard field goals and they are going for it on 4th down three times. They did that because they felt they had to do it to beat us. They were all invested. All or nothing. I really thought Day had learnt his lesson after last year’s game. We were all in facing Georgia. Butttt his nut sack shrunk and he reverted back to vanilla again. Also on Michigan last drive we should have brought the house and seen if we could get the ball back with more time. Knowles nut sack shrunk. With all that we still damn near won. A little magic and we would have won. I felt all a long we were the better team and I still feel we are. They just wanted it more. That’s what hurts the most.
Competitive game. 2021 and 2022 look suspicious in comparison. Hence the NCAA enters.....
@@taxisquad11 That sound a little like lazy thinking. Day was OC at BC for only 2 years (14-12 record) before coming to OSU as a Co-OC, and he didn’t call plays that year. The following year he was lone OC in Meyer’s offense. The following year he became HC and installed his offense. He’s been unimaginative in design and predictable in play calling. When their talent is better than 95% of their opponents, they can execute to predictable results. When facing teams with talent that’s just as good, coaching matters both on Saturdays and the week leading up to it. Day has not been successful with any consistency against teams in their hemisphere of talent.
@@taxisquad11 Or a great defense (that knows the plays) that stops it..
@@EloPSuperFly watch what you ask for, you may get it( think Rich Rod or Mel Tugger).
That's a reach
Kirk, am interested in your take. (25 years coaching in Big 10, PAC 12, MAC, small college…Buckeye living in AA.) Don James used to talk about effort habit and effort at the margins. For example, your the backside WR and your assignment is to block the FS in the middle of the field. Odds are it will be difficult to get to FS unless the RB cuts it back. But, if you don’t bust your ass to get there you won’t be there when the cut back does takes place. I continue to see this effort at the margins not taking place. I would guess Marvin looked at the coverage and determined, based on alignment, he wasn’t going to get the ball. Effort at the margin still dictates that you go full speed all the time…then you become a DB and break up the pass. If you are not giving effort all the time this does not happen. The special team I always coached was kick-off coverage. I had one rule, no matter how deep the kick-off went into the end zone you sprinted full speed until you were inside the 10 yard line. During my time there were no fair catches. However, I see players on kick-off coverage for OSU jogging as far out as the 25-30 yard line on a fair catch. It drives me nuts. Is it not being coached that even on a fair catch if the receiver muffs the catch the ball is live. The more players down field the better the chance to cover the ball. This does not happen if you are not giving effort at the margins. I’m not suggesting that players are not playing hard at the point of attack, but boy do I see a lack of effort at the margins. As a DC, we graded the number of players around the ball the moment the BC hits the ground. It’s what I called hats on the ball. This is one of the improvements I’ve seen from the defense this season. Effort at the margins is a coaching thing. Coach Hayes used to say when he was critiquing a coach for the play of one of their players…you’re either coaching it that way or you’re letting it happen. I fear they’re letting this happen in places and that makes all the difference in a game where a play or two can make the difference in the outcome!
Good take here. I agree
Great take!
Would really like to see us go back to a mobile quarterback. The ability to make plays with your feet to break down defenses is crucial and it’s been why I think we’ve struggled offensively in the game the last few years. Smith, Terrell, Braxton, and Fields all were mobile. All won the game and could avoid a rush and pick up critical yards in critical downs.
Correct. Last 3 years we had "Sitting Ducks" as QBs.
@@michaelcap9550 Yep. I loved CJ but his best game was against Georgia when he ran. I think he would have ran the whole time but I believe Barton and Nevada are right….I think Day coaches this out of them. Even Krenzel could scramble. Zwick, Beckman, CJ, and now McCord all are too easy to defend.
McCord has to go.
they have to be elite passers if they can't run, we don't have an elite passer@@greggart1
Brown was mobile, one play he is out for the season. Its too risky to move the qb around and run him.
To win against the best teams we need to force the opposing defenses to account for QB run. You saw in bowl game last year Rising was killing us with QB run … until he got knocked out of the game 🤷♂️
"I think Day is all-in on McCord"?!? F*ck, time to start rooting for Mt. Union.
these "kids" are now professional athletes making more money than most of their fan base so hell yes you should be critical of their play! No more hiding behind "student athletes "
Exactly what I've been saying..I mean these dudes have 6-7 figure bank accounts wearing shoes that cost my mortgage payment and $ 50,000 necklaces.. that's as pro as it gets lol
Also, they want to play in the league at the next level…..let me tell you will most definitely be criticized in the NFL.
💯. You're now a paid athlete. We buy the tickets and the gear and right now our brand is suffering some embarrassment.
Correct, that's why I don't take any of the rah rah seriously. I have never purchased OSU gear and never will. I won't even attend the games. Its free entertainment, like the NFL on TV. Nothing more.
These guys are a little older than I was when I went through basic training in the Army. They ain't babies and shouldn't be treated as such. They are fortunate to be where they are and it would be good for them to understand that.
Its amazing we only lost by 6 when we committed so many mistakes.
Because Michigan at all that good over all. They’ll get hammered again in the play offs
And ohio state plays a meaningless bowl game with players opting out.
So we lose to TTUN? Now what about the punishment for them? Is it fair to reward them when they cheated?
Damn finally sees the game without the number and name on the jersey! That throw Never should have been thrown but OMG Marvin didn't run a crisp route, completely gave up on the play. You have to attack a quick slant hard! He faded and then didn't even man up after the pick, just stood there! I am so sick of people acting like he walks on water! I completely agree that he is already looking to the NFL 100%. In his mind it was, ok I just have one more game to get through, then I can sit out the bowl game and go to the NFL.
Agreed ! They like he is above correction or something. Any one with eyes can seen that was a piss poor effort. Why is Kirk of all people apologizing so much for pointing that out on Marv? Kirk has earned the right to say that effort wont be the team up north. That was a huge play.
@@r.searcy5627 Right! Every person that truly knows football knows you must cut hard and be strong on every slant over the middle! Come see Devante Adams work and he will show you how to run a grown man quick slant. Because in the NFL.... that ish won't fly. His Dad is one of the best technicians at WR that the NFL has ever seen. But don't get it twisted, Reggie Wayne predominantly ran the quick slants Lol.
This was a game that you let it all hang out. Be aggressive. Go for it or go home. And buckeyes went home. I agree with Nevada Buck on the punt.
I’d love to know what Urban would say about Marv not giving 100% on that slant route
That is not being talked about enough, that play was the difference maker.
I think Frye cobbled together an o-line with a MTN West player at LT, a long-time project at RT, a kid who wasn't AT ALL ready to be a B1G center at center, and two guards who have been here for a while and have been average players and nothing more. I thought they improved throughout the season as a group, but I mostly think that Ryan Day's offensive philosophy SEVERELY hampers ANY o-line coach's ability to develop great run blockers. Any o-line coach who works in Day's QB/WR-driven offense under Day's mandates will have a VERY hard time producing meat grinding o-linemen. Thats just not what Day wants, so I thought Frye did pretty well under those circumstances. Now, that does NOT mean I was happy with the o-line -- they've been unable to consistently run the football since 2020, or virtually since Day took over -- but whoever coaches that unit is being hamstrung by the head coach from day one on the job until the day he leaves (maybe for IU), so I'm not sure why anyone would think another new o-line coach would change anything. What needs to change is Day's offense philosophy... but it won't.
Ohio State gets the best talent and sends guys to the next level. They aren't bringing home the hardware. This year was a hope that they could get it done, but early in the year we knew there were big issues. Especially with QB play and on-line. Like Kirk said awhile ago, we need some responsible degenerates (DAWGS)
Kyle does have cement feet. Watch him try to catch the DT from Penn State whose picking up a fumble and running for a touchdown was called back. It was frightening how much faster the DT was than Kyle
Bench kyle.
Day and Knowles can figure this team out. They are a good team that were a few plays from winning that game. I’m still a believer in Ohio State football
You’re spot on about star players often going @ 80 to 100 % in order to stay healthy. Receivers for example, will never go full out running routes. That’s the difference between HOF guys and everyone else.
On that play where McChord threw that last pick he had one of his safety valve RB's (#0) wide open with nobody within 30+ yards of him. The dude could easily have run the ball down inside the 15 and maybe more and that might have given another 3 shots into the end zone. Kyle rushes things and makes hasty bad decisions and that's my main issue with him.
Kyle is obviously not good at his reads/ progressions yes. But if you just throws on time to Marv coming out of his break it doesn't matter that Donny trips. And it's a completed pass. But nope he holds it too long like he often does
Yes but he was about to get sacked and had to get rid of the ball.
@@joelbrooks3198 That's exactly why you have that safety valve. For situations just like that but you just can't force throws.
@@gregj831Yes. Right on.
@@hijj7676 The big problem is that he targets Marvin ALL THE TIME and this costed him dearly on both picks. He had a safety valve RB who had nobody within 30 yards of him and that's who you go to when under pressure. Either that or throw it away but you don't force a throw like he did and has done all year long.
Well i know it hurts but with next years playoff format we are in regardless and have a great run and win it all we would be a little more forgiving, give one more year to see what happens, AD smith doesn't want this kinda mess going out anyway.
It's sad that you have count on that way in because OSU can't beat Michigan.
I would love to see them add an offensive coach who can call a good game.
Let Hartline call the plays!
I cannot remember a time when the OLine was this bad! On the second INT, the left guard got run over which led to Kyle trying to throw while being tackled! All five offensive linemen graded in the 40s and 50s for this game! What is even worse is that we are not recruiting big boys up front on both sides of the ball! We need to redirect our recruiting efforts to the trenches!!! Look at Georgia, and Alabama’s recruiting classes for 2024, and 2025! They are getting all of the big boys. If we cannot recruit the 4, and 5 star dudes, then we should concentrate on Ohio talent with potential, and develop them over 3-4 years! We have to return to trench warfare!
He didn't get run over. He got tripped by the center. They show that and explain it in this video.
Before he got hit there was a player wide open just got to throw it.= no INT
It all happened so fast, he didn’t have time to react. Like Kirk said things like this happen in football! The first INT though is definitely on him.
Day is hard headed. It’s got to be his way only
It will be his downfall next year.
Exactly right about punting, it was a concession and no confidence in his team.
Agree on the aversion of Day to having his QB’s run. It really hamstrings our offense not having this in the tool kit. You honestly don’t even need to have your quarterback run often to force the defense to account for it. A couple 5 to 10 yarders per game is all you need. We didn’t get that at all this year. I would have liked to seen it the entire year, but the Michigan game would have been the perfect opportunity to spring it.
For sure. When you don't have tp prepare for the QB running, that makes it just that much easier for the defense.
If Frye leaves can we bring in Orlando pace or an alumni lineman that played in the league??
Big changes are needed. OSU has force ONE punt in the last three second-halves vs TTUN. ONE PUNT!
Cardale Jones started out with Big 10 Championship game, had Devin Smith too
Thank God we got a better quarterback coming in next year
How do we wind up with Honda as our best option when we are the super highway to the NFL - also totally agree no threat of QB run kills our running game. Our recruiting and usage of the portal needs to be better and we need to present the threat of QB run.
Because Ewers was our QB but he left.
Ewers seen Ryan Cooper and his tendencies and knew what was gonna happen. Ewers left so he'd actually be the man and now he is. A shame but don't blame him for leaving. Day has lost a lot of folks, not just decommits and portal activity. Don't think the folks with the money at OSU are blind and don't see what's going on. Money talks, Day has next year to square away his Michigan problems or he's toast and it's not looking good for the next 3 years for this team. They're actually going to be much worse next year in comparison to this year
@@unreconstructed9172
Yes. So many guys on defense are leaving.
Whoever the QB coach is for OSU needs to be let go. Kyle was our BEST?? OMG. Day is afraid to dip into the portal in fear of hurting someones feelings.
Agreed about Kyle’s athleticism. If you aren’t a running QB, we need to be able to throw on time or move within the pocket.
Go back and watch Xavier Johnson’s catch. His knee doesn’t hit the ground. First Down, but of course they spot him short. Wondering why Day didn’t challenge it?
His elbow might have been down, can’t see it from the camera angle.
The only ones that have life changes are all the millionaires being made in college football coaching!! Being a fan is transitory and always looking to next year!! It’s a game and has never changed my life. Having my son playing football and baseball was my best experience with sports!!
They have needed a mobile QB for a while.
@@taxisquad11 and still lost to UM and GA. They need someone that can escape jailbreak blitzes. They currently have a turnover machine who can’t run.
Kyle gets fixed on one receiver...he doesn't see the whole field.
Coach Day has hitched his wagon to the Kyle McCord train. I still think Kyle can be a really good QB with some more off season work. And thus, I KNOW Coach Day does as well.
Jim Knowles is not the problem. I can't believe he's being mentioned as the reason we lost that game.
If Ryan Day gets the boot, no guarantee that they will be better than the past coaches. It takes time to develop a chemistry with the players and staff. Losing to TTUN is sad, especially to a cheater who needs his ego pricked and not let off the hook for his actions
You mean Michigan? Say it 3 times...Michigan Michigan Michigan and we will appear in the mirror behind you. Wait until we take your arrogant pride again in 2024.
Whaaaaa….Say our name MICHIGAN 3X Big10 Champs
Unless someone’s coming in to structure a sound offensive game plan and design effective offensive plays, it doesn’t matter who else comes in to the staff.
We need to have some balls and run some of these guys who dont have fire out of this program, also we need to poach the best OL coach out there. We have so many resources and we are afraid to use them
go back and watch the 2019 Clemson playoff game. This team just simply does not POP like that one did. They just hit differently. All around different, harder feel to them then. GO WATCH!!!
Last INT, Kyle was locked in on Marv, X snuck out from backfield wide open
He's always locked in on one receiver. Doesn't go through progressions at all. He's not accurate either. Our QB room is subpar. McCord is not the answer. Neither is Brown. Maybe Leinholz
Ryan Day was a great coach so I do not think Ohio State needs to be fired !😊
He just needs to let go of play calling and hire new assistants.
I’d say OSU schedule their own statement game. I’d like to see them play this week vs a good mizzu team.
I don't understand it because he's athletic enough to run. You can tell Ryan Day is telling them not to run. How do you have our WR's, TE,RB and finish 38th in offense.
I am a fan.. OSU haven't played great most of the year. Michigan was the favorite. Fans have gone nuts.
Allot of our juniors could come improve their draft stocks by coming back one more season. Only Marv jr and Burke will go as high as they are rated are now are gone imo
I read Laurinaetis was the only coach talking to the players at half time.
Ohio State is fixable. Special teams coach is a given. Need new qb coach who can call plays from box. Offensive line needs fixing and Justin Frye recruiting is failing. He is the hard one to let go but how long do u let recruiting fail. Maybe we don’t have enough nil money. We must score 30 plus points against Georgia and Michigan to have a shot at winning.
You just repeated everything they just said
17:00 all the attention should be on McCord and why he would even throw that ball. Check downs??
Head Coach Change and QB change #1. Maybe the offense was toned down so this QB could grasp the concepts...
It would be nice to be something other than the last stop to the NFL and have some starters stay for the senior year and help win the BIG games.
It will be interesting with the new additions to the Big 10 and the schedules won't be cakewalk, may TTUN get their asses handed to them.
How different would it be if they threw a go route to Harrison on the first play of the game. Something crazy aggressive.
Zack Boren he said when Marvin is flatfoot the ball isn’t coming to him.. Kyle screwed up that play..
Someone said the interception was blocked on the ground what did people see???
Day needs to relook at his former coaches that had the winning records against michigan and rethink what he his doing also we need a quarterback that is a running threat and more mobile
He needs Devin brown.
I said something nice ab Ryan, now it's time to get real. I know a spooked coach when I see it. In The Game & in big game moments. 42 secs UGA. The culture is Gucci bags & Louis Vuitton cleats. It's 1 thing to wear that stuff to the Heisman show or if u're a big-time draft pick but u need dogs & that's not how I would show up for a game especially when it's my rival. I've been bitching ab the QB run for as long as u guys have. It's disgusting, it makes us easy as hell to Game Plan & I think it is cost us at least 2 maybe 3 of these big games. U don't have to run that much when u're playing scrubs but u need to keep sh*t honest & we play with 1 hand tied bh our back on O.
I don't understand wanting to blitz more. Like 2022? Being too aggressive lost us The Game last year. To look at a defense that gave us a chance to drive for the win at the end of the game and want them to do something that didn't work last year, and hasn't worked against Michigan all year (JJ is great against blitz), is so insane to me. The 2 INT's and 3&out after UM went up 24-17 lost the game. Defense played great
They played great in the first half.
We don't need to be more aggressive on defense I agree. We need to be more aggressive on Offense. 4 and 2, 4 and 1 then punt majority of time we end up in those situations in close games is not what we need. He plays it safe and has questionable play calling and questionable decisions. His playing it safe demeanor and questionablity trickles down to Kyle Mcord and has a domino affect. If somebody ask me today what player on the Buckeyes most resembles Days coaching I would say Kyke Mcords. Basically if Days coaching was a individuals college football player it would be Kyle McCord!! Hesitant, not aggressive, can't read a defense, horrible rushing stats when rushing is needed. Also questionable play calling, lack of game control, low Qb IQ when it comes to Qb vision, and bad pocket presence
I agree with your comment 💯%
@@brandonpegues2936 agreed
I think we took Kyle cause maybe he brought Harrison, I don't know who committed first or was it a package deal?
We lost by six and dropped 4 spots, imagine if TTUN had lost, they'd drop one spot and doesn't the cheating take away from the integrity?
We had wins at Notre Dame, Penn State and one horrible loss to ttun
The Youngstown State head coach needs to be linked to Columbus too. Kinda repeating history but he’s leading them to the playoffs. Idk if Youngstown is going to win, but he’s doing something right.
Can't wait for TTUN to get their asses beat, it should've been Ohio State winning
Watching from Page,AZ! GO BUCKS!
Unfair to Texas if they win their conference championship game convincingly and they have a huge win over Alabama that blows away wins over sorry ass Notre Dame and Penn State.
play calling is horrific past two years! We were out coached and don't develop the players like we should just look at this class three years ago on 24-7 sports compared to Michigan class, there is no way they should have beating us, out coached out developed!
Who will take over for coach Knowls if he does leave???
Playing wise Ohio State would deserve to back into the oasis with a similar final week as last year. I do think with this playoff format you have to give it to another big time program with all things equal. I think Harrison’s effort is symbolic of the team in general. Good overall but not championship for 60 minutes. I think that’s why the SEC has such competitive tabs. High level competition. Ohio State, the past couple years, have just basically had to play Michigan. ND was a good game this year but part of the problem with McCord’s one half production is some type of fire lacking eh the team.
Barton is on point. Nevada buck is tough to listen if you’re a hardcore fan
Kyle McCord is not the quarterback for OSU. Coach Day is 56-7. Now this is McCord s first year. He needs to improve drastically. The season is not over. Let's play it out. Go Bucks!
What we need is him on the bench.
Well guys I think we definitely need some portal players at least two offensive lineman they got to be a good amount better than we already have two defensive lineman and then McCord and brown as far as I'm concerned is not the offense that we runs type of quarterbacks and they're not that good and they need replaced so if we could get two guys out of the transfer portal and let them battle it out mobile quarterbacks that can pass good but it can run when they need to and then our team will be complete as far as players and if we get the right coaches that we need to replace which I mentioned that on my last comment will be set go Buckeyes
They need a true offensive coordinator
LJ needs to go, the DL has been underperforming for years, Parker Fleming needs to go obviously. Mick Marotti might need to go aswell. And Ryan day might need to give up play calling and focus on being the HC
I said from day one, it would all come down to McCord and it did. He sucks. If anything, Our Buckeyes overachieved in the sense that we went 11-1 with a new QB. McCord was average at best and it is unfortunate. The Michigan game was all on McCord. The two picks were game-changers. I like Day and I think he has done a great job. If the kicker had made the FG last year against UGA, we would have won the NATY.
Jim Knowles is scary in BIG MOMENTS
Urban or Tressel
Most OSU fans I know were very skeptical about QB, whether fair or not! Really didn't think they had a real chance!
We did not play to win. We played to not get blown out. OSU is the better team. This is why the fan base is so upset.
Yep, if there's only a way to get rid of the bandwagon and toxic fans that give us a bad name.
You are what your recorded says you are. 2ed best team in the Big 10..Go Blue
Ohio st is the 4 best team but I don’t know if i can handle watching mccord throw it again
The defense had been solid all season. O-line had improved its passed protection and run game. Kyle McCord remains inconsistent in his passing accuracy, fails to progress through his reads leaving WRs wide open, and unable to adjust in the pocket.
My son and I believed McCord was the X Factor in the “The Game” and could be the one to keep us from reaching the CFP.
While I agree that his statement after the game is true, “it’s just a game” it spoke volumes about his competitiveness. Play the game with some passion or stop playing it all together.
Bananas how many commercial break-ins in this video
Do you guys think Chip Kelly will be a candidate and do you think he is a good fit as OC?
You arrogant and ungrateful Buckeyes deserve a Rich Rod or Mel Tugger.
The QB is the leader of the team and we count on his legs and arm to lead us to victory. I know they're human and get rattled, too.
We lost by 6 points on the road to the best Michigan team I've ever seen....so I think we're in a good spot...
We have to keep knowels and Hartline rest can go
Just throw the damn ball to marv coming out of his break. On time. And not a second late. Then it diesnt matter that Donny trips
I think we're all forgetting who's to blame here ...Quinn Ewers
One thought: On the interception play, if that was an RPO, did Marv think the ball was going to Trey and not coming to him and that was why he was loafing that route? As you said, it was totally blocked up for a good run. Did Kyle change his mind a the last moment and throw to a receiver who was not expecting to receive it?
Its an RPO so it could go either way. Should it have been a give, absolutely. But he doesn't know, his job is to run a hard quick slant and he won't have much separation, that is way you cut hard and you attack the ball. He 100% was the reason that was a pick. Well, he is sitting out the bowl game now, He must have talked to Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Nick Bosa....
That's not the only one he took off on.
I called this game 24-20 on other pages last week for UM. I said McCord will throw a INT on final drive or sack-fumble it. I figured we would have 2 in the game and UM would have 1... wish they had that 1 somewhere when they got a TD . maybe that endzone? We lost to #2 now.. should put us at 6.. OR-Wash loser we will jump to 5 so we just need FSU to lose to Louisville.. and wouldn't CFB and the networks LOVE to see UGA vs OSU again for HUGE RATINGS and cause it was so close last year. Question is.. will Lousville show up.. or will $$$$ be behind the scenes given to Louisville by ACC to throw the game so FSU can get in? if FSU gets in .. UGA would win 41-10 if OSU gets in UGA 34 OSU 20 but OSU will be in it still in the 4th quarter.
I like Jim Knowles, he has done a lot for the program. I think it would be a shame if he left. Parker Fleming should go. When you say Ryan does not take advice that is concerning. Even I, as little as I know can see he shouldn't call plays. I can also see the difference in CJ who was completely comfortable in the pocket and Kyle is awkward. I think tgat is the difference between the good ones and the great ones.
Fire the OL Coaches???
Call a spade a spade. Day is not a big game coach.
Osu has two five stats coming in and a high 4 star
Marvin wasn’t the read. It should have been a running play
In NW Florida.
I think he just trusted the defense more than mccord 🤷🏽♂️ I cant blame him for that
I wanted Chip to come in and be OC but they keeping him
Is it realistic to think Mike Vrabel would come back to OSU as head coach...we need him!
X was WIDE OPEN!!!!!