► Buy the Boox Tab Ultra C • Tab Ultra C: shop.boox.com/products/tabultrac?ref=S89bxEsIU6XNEo • Tab Ultra C PRO: shop.boox.com/products/tabultracpro?ref=S89bxEsIU6XNEo $5 coupon code: BOOXFB5 UPDATES: New video of the 6 BEST features of the Tab Ultra C: ruclips.net/video/ECgJQJMyQFo/видео.html And it's biggest FLAWS here: ruclips.net/video/BBxAuZgxmyo/видео.html CORRECTIONS: 11:51 - The Tab Ultra C was NOT the first tablet with a Kaleido 3 screen; I knew this at the time of filming but forgot to slice it out. 36:45 - I found a settings pane within the Notes app screens that allows for you to choose autosaving frequency. Info: 23:58 - Onyx has a beta firmware that addresses the first-stroke bug.
49 minutes? I can't believe I sat through this entire video without realizing how long it was. This is a comprehensive, realistic and practical review.
Hard to believe that this is your first RUclips post! Amazing review and fully justifies the effort that you have obviously put in to produce this content. I purchased an Ultra C a few days back after going through a ton of reviews and even then some the concerns you raised are new to me. This is what I call an unbiased review. Good going and hope your channel grows with more content like this.
I saw couple of boox devices' usage review videos and this one is first that is really not just marketing but shows all the good the bad and the ugly. This one radiates the real experience and time spent with the device. Thank you for a great review.
I truly appreciate that! My mission is to provide "fair" reviews (to the best of my ability), as I feel there aren't enough on RUclips.. so it's reassuring to know I hit the mark. Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Your video script is tight, clear, and well organized. Smooth presentation. I’m in awe. // I would like to spend less time staring at lit screens. I’ll be following you for your thoughts on tech that can support this.
Really appreciate the lovely words! All this support on my first video has me over the moon.. thank you for watching and commenting. I will strive to save all the eyeballs.
Watched 0:00 to 49:08 I like that you don't try to sound lively (like others). Sounding neutral feels more realistic. Keep it up. Was thinking of buying the tab ultra c, also i have the scribe as well. But after watching this video, I changed my mind. Will keep my scribe for now.
Thank you for taking the time to watch! I really appreciate the feedback - a real concern I had was whether I was being too unenergetic. Never hurts to wait for the next gen if you already have a device that suits your needs!
Wow! This review went places! Massive kudos for putting together such a thorough, exhaustive and unabashed review of not just the device itself but also the matters of security aspects of connected devices. Top job, I'm really impressed. Thank you.
I couldn’t believe that was your first RUclips post! You are impressively articulate, yet easy to listen to. The amount of information that you brought across was well organized with understandable rationale for each point. It seems to that the level of information you gave was equivalent to that which a company would get from a consultant, that they paid good money for. Onyx should hire you on retainer as a product consultant! I can’t imagine how much time you must have invested to produce this video with this level of content. I wish you much success in business and possible RUclips activities. And I wish you long term relief for your weary eyes! Thanks for giving us, giving me such valuable information!
I truly appreciate that! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave such a wonderful comment. =) I just missed my UPS drop of the Tab Ultra C Pro - so I plan to go pick that up tomorrow and will do 1 short video and then in a couple weeks have a longer update video!
FYI! They just released a PRO version - which supposedly resolves a lot of the limitations I found in this review. I updated a link to it in the video description so you can check it out. Mine doesn't get here until the weekend, so I can't compare its performance yet. Just wanted to give you a heads up!!
The effort you put into making this much content this well optimized is absolutely stunning and not lost on those who appreciate excellent quality information in such an elegant delivery. Bravo.
Thank you so much for this in-depth analysis. I was days away from pulling the trigger on a Tab Ultra C as an e-ink replacement for my iPad for calendar, note taking, annotating pdfs, and reading. However, your notes about the instability and pen input lag in third party applications was a deal breaker for me. I had really hoped we had something there, but this sounds like it’s just not ready yet. Massive security issues are also very concerning.
Thank you for taking the time to watch! Yea, I don't feel it can effectively "replace" an iPad for a majority of uses (though it's awesome for those cases you mentioned - note taking, annotating PDFs, and reading!!). The Tab Ultra C rather provides a supplemental way to continue working with your apps while you let your eyes rest from backlit screens.. AKA as substitute when your eyes are getting tired or you need to preserve your eye stamina for future work. There isn't a magic way that I've found to handwrite on a calendar and have it sync/share to other apps - the only viable way is to use OneNote with a calendar template OR a PDF calendar template that you annotate on and sync between your devices. Both of these options are clunky. It is, IMO, an "early adopter" product in that it feels not yet refined. Great concept, good build execution, and I think Onyx will end up making great strides if they focus more time into their software experience and testing. However, there's currently lots of UI/UX and software issues that need to be resolved to get it to a place where it can be seamlessly integrated without frustration. Compared to something like an iPad or Samsung Tab, the integration here feels "young" and "inexperienced".
This review is incredibly well done! Your analysis of the device was deep and thought through, from the specs to the user experience in almost every possible scenario. Thank you so much for such great work.
I watch hundreds of reviews and this one of yours deserves an award. Coincidentally with your first RUclips vid, this is my first comment to a review. You have saved me and I suspect many others the expenditure on this device. I hope that the manufacturers take heed of your feedback. Your well balanced and extensive review stands as a splendid example to others. This may be your first but I sincerely hope that it is not your last.
I really appreciate that - it means a lot! I am striving to make many more. I've got 2 more e-ink devices in the queue already.. but it will take me a while to get acquainted with them and make a video - probably 3+ weeks out. I have some other productivity gadget reviews incoming over the next couple weeks. Appreciate you staying tuned as I get accustomed to RUclips and what people want to watch.
Very comprehensive review. I came here searching for a kindle for my girlfriend that could do color and i hardly knew anything. You not just reviewed the product thoroughly but also explained the tech pretty nicely. I appreciate your efforts
It has been great for me so far. I have used to for 1 hour by taking random notes and solving integrals for fun (cause MY LIFE SUCKS). It is very great at that, and I found a way to get my notes online. The space that I'm gonna save in my place is gonna be significant.
Yes!! The quality of life improvement of not having to deal with analog notetaking (and the tedious process of organizing, reviewing, and trying to digitize those) is significant. I've also found myself using it almost daily for taking notes or jotting down my thoughts. Good luck with calculus!!!
@@aline.tech.reviews thanks. The worst are the physic classes though, but I know I will finally be able to draw beautiful graphs to help me. You cannot understand physics without them. Hopefully, I won't have to bring my heavy laptop in my hours of public transport adventure (main reason to get the tablet). One last thing, do you know any case that I can use to transport the Ultra C?
@@Cless - Haha.. agreed the colors for drawing graphs is super handy! It also adds a bit of fun when your mind wanders and you start doodling. I don't know of any cases unfortunately, I only have the magnetic case that came with it and the keyboard cover case. Neither of those seem like they will provide long-term protection for you. I would check out the Onyx Boox Reddit community and see if anyone there has recommendations. I will also search around and maybe find a couple to try out/review for us!
This is really a deep review, especially you provided the cons which were not mentioned by others. This is very useful, after checked your vedio, i bought a Ultra C. To be honest, this device is far more than what i expected it to be.
Thanks for reviewing this and for helping me decide. I also enjoyed every minute of this video. And I just realized, I watched it on 1.0x speed which almost never happens.
I appreciate you spending your time watching! It means a lot, and comments like this help me keep pushing on. I have a new review of the new Tab Ultra C Pro the way! My initial thoughts video should drop tomorrow, and the full review will hopefully be up within 3 weeks
Haha, thank you! It's my first video and I expected to get maybe 20 views, so I'm ecstatic with how many people this has reached and helped. We will grow in good time as I get more practice!
I think this is the first video I have seen with the tablet put alongside another traditional style screen. Wow, I hadn't realised just how different the colours were. I think these could be good for developers that spend most of their time playing with code and use colour for syntax etc. Great video. Thank you.
Finished watching the rest of the video and oddly I think a lot of the things this suffers with, my old Note Air doesn't, even things like the marker fading the text doesn't happen on mine. Mine is a mono only device so maybe this is related to the colour screen rather than the software? I use it all the time for notes and think I would find the Ultra C very frustrating.
@@thebaldconvict - Yea, as far as I'm aware those pen issues don't exist even on the B&W Tab Ultra (mind you, I don't have one of those.. so I'm only going off of what I've seen from others). All of the forum posts I've seen have been in regard to the color version. The screen issues I pointed out also don't exist there - as the darkness/subpixel graininess are caused by the color layer. It definitely gets frustrating. They kind of fade into the background once you get into a flow state/get used to using it for multiple hour sessions, but then you come back and just notice them all - I've even gotten angry at the thing which is not a good sign, haha.
This was exactly the kind of in-depth review I was looking for - well rounded, articulate and thought-out. Thank you for making it, and as others have said, it's hard to believe this was your first review. Talk about coming out of the gate swinging!
This is an amazing video; incredible to think it’s your first! It’s thorough and really useful and interesting. And I really enjoy your pace and style. But I think what I liked most was your understanding of different audiences - you explained why you hoped the device would help you for those of us who wanted to know, but made it easy to find just the product review too. Hope there will be lots more videos.
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and leave such a lovely comment!! One of my goals with this channel is to share my personal use cases + ways in which the devices can be integrated into others' lives (that I might not use it for)... as technology can be implemented in so many ways. I was hesitant to include my personal context for each review (worried that no one would care), but it's reassuring to know folks enjoy that and understand they can easily skip it. Lots more reviews on the way!!!! I have 3 more e-ink devices in the queue, as well.
Thanks for taking the time to watch, comment, and subscribe - that's a lot, and I truly appreciate it! I plan to keep it up!! I am going to try some shorter videos around the TUC and get in some other tech reviews that I had planned - so appreciate you sticking around while I test and try things - and please don't hesitate to sound off in the comments if I'm heading down the wrong path.
This was brilliant. I was considering the device and wanted some sensible information that did not feel like an ad or clickbait, and this was perfect. Is this seriously your first video up here, or do you have a previous channel? If it really is the first, I am blown away. It seems the tech is not quite ready, but boy I hope it succeeds, so that more can be invested and we get to see more change in e-ink tech. Just imagine if they ever get e-ink to reasonable refresh rates, so that it can open the world of office work and gaming to e-ink devices. From hiding in the shadows of our nerdcaves, to being able to work and play videogames outdoors. Complete world-changer. Think of the fortune handheld consoles would make in that world.
I truly appreciate that!! That is quite literally my main objective with this channel, so it's reassuring to know it's received well. It's my first channel! I did spend 2-3 years learning about filming/audio/etc. (aka, procrastinating) and trying to convince myself to take the leap. =) And agreed there - it definitely doesn't feel quite "there", but I'm running into that problem with a lot of tech these days. I've since tested a handful of other e-ink devices, and can confidently say the Tab Ultra C seems to be one of the top contenders at the moment (if not the top) even with all its flaws. It doesn't feel like there's an offering above it, so to me it is the current ceiling. And LOL. Your vision of the potential future sounds lovely (except the going outside part!!). I'm wondering if e-ink will die out completely in lieu of another reflective technology. I can't imagine us refining what e-ink is to the degree it needs to be. It feels like there is a hard limit of what can be achieved based on the current pacing of the tech. I hope I'm wrong about that!
Wow, what a great, first, in-depth video lol! Who is this guy lol? This first vid is better than others who have been doing this for a while. You came out swinging sir!
OMG your first RUclips video and one of the most useful among the lot. I am looking around for alternate solutions as my eyes are not keeping up with my needs. I guess I will settle with a bw version of the Boox tablet.
Truly appreciate that! Supernote I believe is also about to unveil their next line-up (but I don't know that they are bringing color).. if you're not in a dire rush it might be worth waiting to see how their v2.0 lineup comes out. As I've read, they are allowing for Android OS so you may get to install all apps as well.
man, thanks for the proper review! after watching countless reviewers I almost pulled the trigger on this one, but then I saw this proper review. the points that you made would have made me send this thing back asap, I would have take it more to play and doodle as a stress relief.. but seeing this bugs would really annoy me. wonder if the BW version has these issues as well, especially the not registering the first stroke probably I'll get a ipad instead.. thanks!
You're very welcome! Boox has released a TUC Pro now that has upgraded hardware, and they also updated the software quite a bit. It definitely still has its issues, but they did improve a lot. I should have my new review up in 2 weeks or so
@@aline.tech.reviews cool, looking forward for it, did they fixed the initial pen input lag? that one was quite an embarrassing bug at this price point
They kind of fixed it in a software update; check out my Beta 3.5 update video and you can see it. They implemented a workaround to make it appear on its own shortly after drawn, but it's not 100% fixed.. just an improvement over what did exist.
Good job on your first Vid. Best of luck in future. I bought the Tab Ultra C but now returning it. So glitchy and frustrating to use. Too many frustrations to mention. Buying a Remarkable 2, I am mostly note taking and planning, that should do the job. Also half the price if I get alternative pen and cover on Amazon.
Thank you!! I really appreciate that. Sorry to hear that the Tab Ultra C didn't work out for you, but agreed that sounds like the best decision on your part. I made a video about its flaws here as well. I've heard remarkable (lol) things about the Remarkable 2! I haven't tried it yet, but it's on the list. I'm currently testing other e-ink tablets like the Amazon Scribe and MobiScribe WAVE to see if they can function as cheaper alternatives to the TUC. Definitely let me know how you get along with the Remarkable 2 and whether your experience was any better!
Wow congrats for this being your first video on RUclips. You did great, you definitely had convinced me to at least try it, until you pointed out it’s flaws. Who would have known this is your first video on RUclips very professional and thought out. I’m subscribed and your name is very cool. Well done.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Really appreciate it. I'm still finding use for it nearly daily here - so I've been able to live with the flaws. I will post a 3-month and 6-month update, for sure! I'm planning to release a new video this weekend on the features that I really like.
A very thorough review. Thank you. I would appreciate if you could make a video on the status of the security concerns, what has and hasn't been changed since you made the video. It has been two months. Looking forward to more videos. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the kind words! I do have a new video in the works, it should be ready by next weekend. I have gotten the Beta 3.5 firmware (and tested the Beta 3.4 prior to that). They have added a handful of new features and patched the Android OS, but that's about it. I will do my best to make sure that video is completed by next weekend so you can get caught up.
Im here aswell out of curiosity! Well done man, also nice starting studio! Also big ups to also putting up chapters! Not my cup of tea, but a deserved like!!!
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Really really eye-opening and honest review.. Thanks a lot!
Truly appreciate that, thank you! I have an updated Tab Ultra C Pro video for this filmed, I just need to find time in the schedule to edit it. I'm hoping it will be out before August.
It's definitely one of those features that feels "unnecessary" on this device. I imagine anyone needing to take a photo of a document would have an easier time pulling out their phone to snap quickly and ship it to their Boox device.
Thank you for this super detailed review! I was interested on a device for reading (including comics/graphic novels) and sketching, so color E-ink sounded good. I'm now convinced that this tablet (and maybe E-ink in general) is not for me (or not yet, at least), even if it sounds like a nice way to read outside in the sun.
I would suggest that this is more of a workhorse solution and probably overkill for your use cases/scenario. If your main use case is reading/writing, I would check out the 7.8 versions like the Tab Mini C, or the Bigme Goyue v6. They have all the same features and functionalities outside the keyboard case at like half the price. The smaller versions are not only cheaper, but also easier to hold for reading. The larger 10.3 are not fun for holding and reading for long periods.
Amazing review! You shed a light on this device from many perspectives and you did it thoroughly. Congratulations on such a great first video! Concerning the device: It looks promising. First impression of build quality is fine, though the rest leaves something to be desired. Especially looking at the premium price tag. Some of the hardware related things like the connectors or the issues with the screen might become unnerving to some in the long run while others can live with it. Some software related issues could be resolved through updates. However, I doubt it will all happen, speaking from experience with other companies. The adaptions to make better use of the color e-ink are nice and for me, the screen + pen input are the biggest selling points. But in the end, it all looks a bit unpolished and needs further development to make it really shine. Like you put it: It has its advantages and if you are in the market for such a device, it really depends on your use case. However for me, I will stay away from it. Too many compromises to be made. Still, I hope that devices like this pave the ground so other manufacturers also join in and develop new productivity focused devices. Once again, thanks for the review and saving me from buying a device I would not have been satisfied with 😅
I truly appreciate that! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave such a thoughtful comment. I think you summarized it quite well! I did my best to point out everything I could find so viewers could make an informed decision based on their personalities, so I'm happy to see the video was of value to you in that way. =) Onyx has released a beta firmware that fixes some of the issues (like the pen stroke bug, and reportedly the security patches). I haven't tried them out yet but am debating giving it a shot to update the community. I too, hope that these companies are inspired, by comments like yours, to push e-ink and other technologies forward. It seems obvious there is a new wave of interest surging for e-ink and productivity tech.. so fingers crossed!
Wow man! First video, and made so very professionally. Thank you very much for the information (although wished you worked more on the second screen and streaming tab to screen portions to show more capabilities of the device - nitpicky I know). Nonetheless, great job and wish you well. Keep up the good work.
I really appreciate that, thank you! And noted! I have a second video in the works here where I demonstrate my favorite productivity features of the Tab Ultra C, and one of those is the second screen/virtual display options. I am hoping to release it this Sunday or Tuesday - so keep an eye out for that!
Fantastic review! Unbiased, very practical, great focus!! Didn't feel long! Would love to see such a review on a Lenovo thinkbook gen4 twist laptop! Seems like a good complement!
Well done Sir! Be proud of yourself! Go find a mirror, tell yourself that you earned it! And be thankful for every single detail of what you see in that mirror! Especially your eyes.. Cause though they often feel dry and sore and sometimes even grants you nothing but pain and troubles.. You must always remind yourself, that you and them, are one.. You share a common goal and without your vision, they would be blind, and without your sight, you would have no vision. Thank you
Appreciate that! It's definitely good at that - it may take you a minute to get used to working from Android if you aren't familiar with using a tablet, but stick with it. There are tradeoffs for that eye relief, but it makes for a great companion in that regard. I still use my Pro daily. And apologies that I didn't get my Tab Ultra C Pro video out on time - ran into a bit of snag with my dad's health that set me back many months. It's all filmed, I just need to edit it together, so aiming for early August!
Thanks for such a complete review. I was thinking about purchasing this one, but the price is really high. With your review, I will hold on that purchase.
Thank you for taking the time to watch! There's never any harm in waiting for the next generation unless you absolutely need it now. Also, as a FYI, buying used is a good option for a discount!
The best review of this product! I want to buy e-ink tablet, I need full functionality - to be able sync files via cloud, have colors for blueprints and 700Eur price tag is very harsh for product which can turn out to be flop in first day of use.
Really appreciate that! Thank you for watching. And yes, these devices are pricey. I can say I am still using this one often to save my eyes from a traditional screen, but if you don't need it I would go for iPad/Galaxy Tab for sure!
Sure thing; thank you for taking the time to watch! I am way behind video schedule, but I have an updated review of the Tab Ultra C Pro releasing in ~1 week from today. It's very similar but has a lot of notable improvements.
You are a real YT pro! Please do more videos! I suggest you to review the Book Tab Mini C, a smaller version of this. It would be a real game changer, since it's smaller
I really appreciate that, thank you! The Mini C could be a game changer for many! It's effectively the same device just shrunk down to be more compact/comfortable for holding; I presume the performance will be similar outside smaller changes like a different pen/larger bezels/etc. I am hoping for a larger screen version, like the Tab Ultra C X - as I don't have a large use case for a smaller, more portable version than the 10.3". I am debating on whether it's worth the purchase just to review it to keep this audience informed, and maybe give it away!
I have an eye disease and E ink has been a godsend. I got the Tab X. I am very happy with it in general, But I am very frustrated with the lack of keyboard cover and bad Usb port, No camera as well as lack of appS optimized for the tech. for someone who suffers with MGD stage 3, I simply cannot use normal LCD screens so this is the best I can get at the moment for academic purposes. I hope one day there will be an E ink fully functional Laptop.
Glad the Tab X is working for you! And definitely understand the limitations you have listed there - outside of color, lack of the keyboard cover was a big factor for me in the Tab Ultra C (even though the larger screen was super appetizing). Are you up-to-date on the Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Twist? I'm not sure if the price will be justified for you if you don't need/can't use the OLED screen, but here is a preview: ruclips.net/video/toRHQhR4UPI/видео.html . It was projected to be launching sometime in 2023. Regardless of whether or not you get this, it proves that companies are investing and e-ink laptops are right around the corner. Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Gen 2's are still around if you buy used, I think!
Happy to help! As a bonus (that didn't make it into this video, but made it into my "BIGGEST FLAWS" video): it seems their Linux kernel is also coming up on its end of life at the start of 2024. Meaning BOTH their kernel and Android OS security updates are being sunset. This is going to require an upgrade that Onyx doesn't seem to have on their menu.. as they are still trying to catch up to an old Android's OS security updates (which are in beta and super slow moving). It's likely these devices aren't going to be secure for some years - I would guess they get enough pushback and release their next line of devices.
I should have the new model (PRO) soon, just waiting for delivery, which comes with Android 12 - so will retest. I've also reached out to BOOX regarding security policies. Waiting to hear back.
As a tech guy, i immediately subscribed after such an in-depth review. You're on par with the big guys. Since it's your first video i Imagine you'll quickly have alot of subscribers and viewers if you keep it up like this! Good luck on your progress! Ps: what's up with the socks ? Kinda gives off a barefoot vibe.. Thanks for your review!
Man, I really appreciate that! Are you big into tech outside of e-ink, tablets, & smartphones, as well (thinking desk gadgets, peripherals, etc.)? ^ That is the direction I am honing in on as I love desk gadgets/setups, peripherals, and productivity. I will continue other reviews, too - and already have 3 e-ink devices in the queue - but they are very niche products and are a significant purchase for most users. I'm trying to confirm whether that's a direction viewers like yourself are interested in! And lololol. I don't like thick socks or socks that touch my ankles - this type is thin, low, and super comfortable. Thanks for taking the time to watch and leave such a wonderful comment.
It's really sad because I've been wanting to buy an e-ink device since many years and have been noticing the same problems you describe. The devices don't seem to get out of beta stage. Outdated components are being installed. The software is not fully developed. Yes, there is some improvement, but overall the price-performance ratio is not really good enough. When will there finally be such a device from Samsung or Apple? The market should certainly be there, even outside of the academic working world. Great review, I rarely watch full 50 minutes of a video, but this was really useful. Would be curious to see a review of the Boox Air3c from you!
I don't know you and I'm only at 1:29 minute but I truly think that you are a software developer or something like that, because I am one of them and I just purchased one of these tablets for relief my eyes because I always I am in front of so many monitors and displays because of my job.
You got it! I was a web developer for over 14 years; now, I am a director that manages teams of developers and project pipelines. I am at my computer for 12+ hours a day typically for just work, and then more after for personal use + my phone in between. My eyes are in pain quite often because of it
I would apreciate a video where you introduce the viewer to the device specific productivity apps (and your oppinion about their usefulness). Especially the productivity apps, that make use of the stylus and/or keyboard.
Great suggestion, noted! As a FYI, there aren't many apps that work well with the stylus. The default Boox Notes & Reader apps (that come with the device) are the bread and butter for the stylus. They have done some software "optimizations" (workarounds) to make the stylus usable in Microsoft OneNote and Evernote apps (and I feel they are actually usable here without issue). However, that's the extent - any other app suffers a major latency and isn't worth using with the pen stylus. The keyboard can be used in any app - the latency/delay is a little greater in third-party apps, but it's an area where your brain adapts quickly and it's useable in most apps you use. Any app you would imagine typing in should work well with the keyboard!
One thing that you want to share is that the "productivity" part is very deceiving, as the pen works well only with the 3 apps that Boox make; while every other android app basically is not usable with the pen due to the latency. Also you want to point out that every Android app has issues when used on this tablet due to the fact that they are not optimized for eink tablets, so no matter what, they will never look or run as well as on a proper android LCD screen. Also you may want to say that even a Kindle fire tablet that cost less than 200 dollars look better than this screen, which is so washed off in terms of color gamut, that instead of giving relief to your eyes, strain your eyes even more if you try to read anything like a book that has colors with different shades that are close enough to each other. So maybe it is great for some user cases, like writing an email? Reading an ebook? The way in which this device is pushed feel like a bit too much to be honest, almost like it is "sold" more than reviewed. Color eink screen exist since the 2000s, and they have been mostly disappointing; they are getting better but far from being as good as LCD... And there is still a long way to go.
Yea, your comment essentially summarizes my review, just without the positives. It's a little confusing because I can't tell if you are echoing what I said in my review, sharing your similar experience, or didn't watch it and are trying to tell me what I should be saying from your point of view/experience. Boox has optimized for some third-party apps, like OneNote, but yea, that doesn't prove super beneficial considering a primary selling pont of the device is that you can install nearly all Android apps which are not optimized (and no one seems to mention it). Agreed, there is a long way to go with the technology to bring it to the level of an LCD, but who knows if it's even possible to get it there. As stated in the review, I had thought e-ink as a technology died out a decade ago.. but it seems like a new wave of popularity is surgering here. Gallery 3 screens exist which use color ink and display a wider gamut at 300ppi, I'm not quite sure why Onyx chose Kaleido 3 over that, but I preusme its due to the horrid refresh rates. I'm hoping they build and refine one with Gallery so we can see how it compares.
@@aline.tech.reviews I was echoing some of the points but in a different way. The spin you put on your review is positive; mine is more on the negative side. What I would get from your review as "potential buyer" is that the device is worth 700 dollars and this is the best thing ever; which clearly it is not... But the message is not sent out in a way that is easy to be digested IMO. That's why I wanted to put out my comment in a straightforward way that remove the positives. Sure, the device has positives, but if we factor weight, battery life, price and overall performances compared to other productivity devices, it is not really worth it. If we compare it to other eink devices, it is a level above the others but still not that much better to justify the extra weight, battery consumption and price (for example the Note air 2 plus is a much better device overall, if you can live with the slight latency when scrolling, at a gain of a slimmer, lighter, more sleek device that last you 3 times longer and that cost you less than half the price). As far optimizations; Boox did not optimize the app itself; Microsoft did some optimization for low refresh screen; and Boox did use some tricks to write on screen buffer so it looks like the pen actually wrote in the app, and then overlay the drawing on the actual app in a delayed update; they have been doing this since a couple of years now with OneNote using their APIs, and they tried to do the same also with Evernote, with much worst results, because Evernote is not as optimized as Onenote for low refresh screens. There is only so much that Boox can do; to get real benefits, app makers need to implement APIs from each maker of devices and optimize their apps, to get low latency for the pen sadly; and what a device can do is to limit the refresh time of areas of the screen to improve responsiveness, which is not perfect and require a lot of power (and it is something that eink screen were not made for). I give credit to Boox for trying, but they are fundamentally hacking things around with eink screen tech; instead of focusing on what eink screen are good at and do the best they can in that area. They should work with app makers to improve the app responsiveness on eink screen, instead of add a GPU to force refresh and use tricks and hacks that suck away battery life and make the device heavy, to make it "faster". Gallery3 screen are used in some devices like the Bigme, but from early reviews it seems they are not as fast as the Kaleido3; so I guess Boox went for these for that reason. You gain in color quality but lose in refresh speed...
Hasn‘t Onyx patched OneNote and Evernote? I think it‘s important to know the limitations of the screen, but I don‘t agree with your assessment. The TUC is very usable as an everyday tablet to me - unlike previous onyx devices. maybe not for video or viewing photos, but to read the web, use apps and notetaking it is very nice
@@HolgerNestmann Onyx cannot patch either app because they cannot change the source code of neither OneNote nor Evernote. And neither EverNote nor OneNote have integrated Onyx SDK to support their pen and screen functionalities. They just did a workaround to increase spot refresh responsiveness and delay the update in the app. Mind to share what can you do on the TUC that you could not do on a NA2+ for example? I can read the web on the NA2+ just fine, if I need to get info or an article on the fly, and the same apps that work on the NA2+ work exactly the same on the TUC... 99.9% the same; you can measure them easily, if nobody already did that. The only thing that is objectively faster is video playback (faster than previous eink; still sub-20 FPS, mind you) and a smoother scroll on web content and documents in 1st party apps like the browser and the reader. And the pen is more responsive when writing on 1st party note app. For 3rd part apps... Not much. It is a nice device, sure; but not much nicer than a NA2+ to justify the extra bulk, weight, reduced battery life and the worst resolution with disappointing washed colors. You can almost buy 2 NA2+ with the same money of a TUC...
For eye strain I reccomend dell 3014 and 3023 model monitors. Their resolution, size and quality is so good that I have zero eye fatigue after 16 hours constant use.
God damn. One of, if not the best tech product review videos I've ever had the pleasure of watching and I've watched A LOT. I've been going deep down the rabbit hole on e-ink tablets and have watched countless reviews/impressions vids on the TUC and this was the most thoughtful and informative by a mile. Utterly shocked this is your first video review ever. Outstanding job. Instant subscribe! Thank you for all the excellent info. Has given me A LOT to think about, esp since this device has been sitting in a shopping cart of mine for a bit now and I keep going back and forth on hitting that purchase button.
Haha! I really appreciate that, thank you!! In case you haven't seen it: I released a video yesterday on the 6 best features of the TUC, in my opinion, and I plan to release another video this weekend of the 6 biggest flaws/issues I've had with it. Those may provide some more specific use-case scenarios for you to consider. Also, if you have any questions or hesitations, please don't hesitate to ask! I'm happy to share my experience or test something out for you if you have a specific use case. I'm still doing a lot of testing with the device.
Wow amazing review! You went in depth on the negatives you found (something a lot of reviewers don’t do) and for that you got a subscriber. It would be great if you could add the Boox Palma to your list of things to review. :)
I think it would be fairer to compare the screen to a printed page rather than tablet screens which are intended for media/video consumption, e-ink screens are meant to be a digital alternative to print. Otherwsie an outstanding review 👍
That's actually a legitimate point! I didn't think to make that comparison for the review. I will say most inkjet color printers produce much more vibrant colors than this screen (and standard printer paper much whiter in similar lighting conditions). I do now wonder how the Gallery 3 color e-ink screens would compare to an inkjet printer, since they are both 'mixing' colored inks. And thank you for the kind words! I will keep this comment in mind for my next e-ink review.
Thank you for the kind words; I truly appreciate it! Despite the issues noted, I still find the Tab Ultra C to be great for notetaking and reading/simple/public tasks. I'm still using it nearly daily and imagine doing so until I find a worthy replacement.
wow! that was an incredibly thorough and honest review. As a physician with entrepreneurial aspirations outside of traditional medicine, I'm looking for a productivity tool that doubles as a notebook. I was all in after watching Kitt's videos and now I am going to wait due to the security issues you mentioned. I may consider Remarkable 2 until boox figures it out. Thank you again!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave a review! Onyx has made a statement claiming they plan to at least update the OS security patches; however, that is coming ~3 years late, and at the end of life for Android 11 security support (which means even if they do get it updated, they may let them lapse for another ~3 years). I would suggest checking around for Remarkable2 security posts! I don't have one, but I presume if you plan to do patient work on it you will need a device that is HIPAA complaint and I don't know that the Remarkable2 cloud is. However, likely above the security of paper. =)
I got an older color boox tablet a few years ago. I thought I was going to read a bunch of comics, manga, and manwa, but mostly I just read books. I have read comics and manga, both of which worked very well, but I failed to consider that manwa were meant for scrolling and not for pages, which means that you'll get a lot of ghosting or lots of refreshing. It would be nice to have an option to jump up and down half a screen to a whole screen without scrolling the space in between to avoid ghosting, but I haven't found a way to do so. I like the idea of color e-ink, but I have found that the trade off of the darker screen isn't really worth it for me. Maybe if I was a massive comic fan it would be perfect, but I read far more manga and normal books, both of which are somewhat diminished due to the color layer.
Hey there! I am not familiar with manwa, but I do believe I understand your issue. What app are you using to read/scroll the manwa? NeoReader? I agree with you on the dark screen - it's a tough area to justify for those of us who are sensitive to it. I do hope it's an area that future generations of color e-ink can improve on. I haven't yet seen Gallery 3 in real life to know how it compares.
I have an ONYX Poke 3 reader. As a teacher I wanted to be able to use library apps and google classroom. I really need a larger screen and color for reading and correcting. What are your thoughts?
It sounds like the TUC might be a great fit for you - especially if you intend to use the pen for reviewing/correcting in the Boox apps! You will need perform that task in PDF or OneNote format for usability as the pen does not work super well in most other apps. If you're planning to review student uploads as like Word docs, or something else, or edit with a keyboard, then maybe not the best application unless you absolutely need e-ink.. unless you intend to convert to PDF/image/reader format so you can write on it. I can confirm that annotating (whether it be through handwriting or selecting and highlighting/categorizing text) PDFs in color is an amazing value add, and one that I use pretty much daily now. I just tested the Google Classroom app for you and it seems to work just fine. I don't see any drawing capability in the app so you won't have to worry about third-party app pen input delay. You can upload files you exported on the device directly into Classroom. Note: I didn't go too deep into the full app's functionality or try any addons, just did some basic setup to confirm the app didn't have any glaring issues with this device and visibility/input delay. If you want to invite me to some test classroom and see something specific, I'm happy to try it out and send you a video recording of how it works. If you are teaching students, by that I mean you are not hosting your own e-learning course where you control your privacy policy, I would make sure you get this device screened by your school / IT department to ensure they are good with the security level before using it to access sensitive student information.
Very on depth this was great!! I am contemplating this model for its app use because I use scribd alot but love my kindle due to eye strain. Thanks again great video!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching. I can say having access to your apps is a great convenience - especially if they don't include apps for media creation or consumption.
Top notch review... appreciated the nod to our boy floss :) What a beautiful but flawed tablet. I loved the pastel colours, the ink bleed effect... But man they're limiting themselves with those cheap components. I'd happily pay double the price tag, if they could speed it up. I'm completely sold on the idea, the beauty and "potential" usability of that screen... But they need to do what Apple did, and say..."here's the product...it's premium, with a tag to match." 🤷♂️
I really appreciate that! And I couldn't agree with you more - it's so close but yet so far. The software and and UI/UX issues, especially, are just not "refined" enough.. everything about the device feels extremely juvenile. In stark comparison to Apple/Samsung where you hop on and everything has been iterated on and tested so many times it "just works". I still use it daily, because the eye relief are too important for me to pass on.. but definitely hope the refinement catches up more quickly. I'd also pay double for a refined version.
I did see a Reddit post of Onyx releasing a beta firmware to fix this specific issue - did you get to try it first-hand? I was hesitant to update as I am not seeing any coverage/protection around what happens if a beta firmware install bricks your device (I presume it will be the user's fault).. and wasn't able to find a way to revert to a previous firmware version. I recall seeing someone who had the beta update invert their colors and they are now stuck until Onyx pushes another update.
@@aline.tech.reviews l tried it. I have no problems so far cause I only use my device for the notes and for manga reading :). The colour fill surprisingly works very well too.
Well done. Have you tried using the tablet as an external monitor? I do this often with my Samsung tablet and have often wondered how an e-ink device would fair. I was thinking you could even have it on all the time and park certain apps there from your desktop/monitor like Messaging apps, Browser lookups etc. so you would be getting partial relief throughout the day.
I have! It unfortunately doesn't support DP Alt Mode so you can't plug it in and stream direct - you have to use an app and I found it easier to do so wirelessly. It definitely can serve the purpose you've suggested, but I've found it to be a bit cumbersome in practice. The screen is only 10.3" inches so it's quite small for doing anything real. I mostly ended up using it as a display for simple text tasks like write e-mails or read long briefs sent by my team.. but that's all stuff I can do on the tablet without having it connected to my PC as a virtual display. I think you would want a 13-16 inch version to be able to make consistent use of it.
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49 minutes? I can't believe I sat through this entire video without realizing how long it was. This is a comprehensive, realistic and practical review.
lolol, I really appreciate that!
I understand that time is likely our most valuable resource, so your viewing means a lot. Thank you!
Hard to believe that this is your first RUclips post! Amazing review and fully justifies the effort that you have obviously put in to produce this content. I purchased an Ultra C a few days back after going through a ton of reviews and even then some the concerns you raised are new to me. This is what I call an unbiased review. Good going and hope your channel grows with more content like this.
Thank you for the amazing comment and for taking the time to watch. I really appreciate you!
I hope you and your Tab Ultra C get along well!
Yes, very very well done for a first production.
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🍷🍾 Cheers!
I didn’t even notice!! I just assumed this guy was a big time RUclipsr!😅
This guy is a natural!!🔥
I saw couple of boox devices' usage review videos and this one is first that is really not just marketing but shows all the good the bad and the ugly. This one radiates the real experience and time spent with the device. Thank you for a great review.
I truly appreciate that! My mission is to provide "fair" reviews (to the best of my ability), as I feel there aren't enough on RUclips.. so it's reassuring to know I hit the mark.
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Your video script is tight, clear, and well organized. Smooth presentation. I’m in awe. // I would like to spend less time staring at lit screens. I’ll be following you for your thoughts on tech that can support this.
Really appreciate the lovely words! All this support on my first video has me over the moon.. thank you for watching and commenting.
I will strive to save all the eyeballs.
First youtube video... with such quality? Freaking amazing! Instantly subscribed.
Welcome aboard! And thanks for taking the time to watch =)
Watched 0:00 to 49:08
I like that you don't try to sound lively (like others). Sounding neutral feels more realistic. Keep it up.
Was thinking of buying the tab ultra c, also i have the scribe as well. But after watching this video, I changed my mind. Will keep my scribe for now.
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
I really appreciate the feedback - a real concern I had was whether I was being too unenergetic.
Never hurts to wait for the next gen if you already have a device that suits your needs!
Wow! This review went places! Massive kudos for putting together such a thorough, exhaustive and unabashed review of not just the device itself but also the matters of security aspects of connected devices. Top job, I'm really impressed. Thank you.
I really appreciate that! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave the kind words. =)
I couldn’t believe that was your first RUclips post! You are impressively articulate, yet easy to listen to. The amount of information that you brought across was well organized with understandable rationale for each point. It seems to that the level of information you gave was equivalent to that which a company would get from a consultant, that they paid good money for. Onyx should hire you on retainer as a product consultant! I can’t imagine how much time you must have invested to produce this video with this level of content. I wish you much success in business and possible RUclips activities. And I wish you long term relief for your weary eyes! Thanks for giving us, giving me such valuable information!
I truly appreciate that! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave such a wonderful comment. =)
I just missed my UPS drop of the Tab Ultra C Pro - so I plan to go pick that up tomorrow and will do 1 short video and then in a couple weeks have a longer update video!
Good overview. Like how you didn't hold back with the criticism
I truly appreciate that; thank you for the kind words!
This was an absolutely brilliant "warts and all" review. Honest and well considered.
Thank you so much!
After this video and months of searching, I will buy definitely Boox! Thank you, for so many details I'm shocked:)
FYI! They just released a PRO version - which supposedly resolves a lot of the limitations I found in this review. I updated a link to it in the video description so you can check it out.
Mine doesn't get here until the weekend, so I can't compare its performance yet. Just wanted to give you a heads up!!
Exceptional review! It's hard to believe this is your first video. Thorough, unbiased, crisp, and polished. Keep it up!!
Truly appreciate that!! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
The effort you put into making this much content this well optimized is absolutely stunning and not lost on those who appreciate excellent quality information in such an elegant delivery. Bravo.
I really appreciate that!! I will continue to strive to master this quality of review. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
@@aline.tech.reviewsyou have definitely set the bar high 😉👍
Thank you so much for this in-depth analysis. I was days away from pulling the trigger on a Tab Ultra C as an e-ink replacement for my iPad for calendar, note taking, annotating pdfs, and reading. However, your notes about the instability and pen input lag in third party applications was a deal breaker for me. I had really hoped we had something there, but this sounds like it’s just not ready yet. Massive security issues are also very concerning.
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Yea, I don't feel it can effectively "replace" an iPad for a majority of uses (though it's awesome for those cases you mentioned - note taking, annotating PDFs, and reading!!). The Tab Ultra C rather provides a supplemental way to continue working with your apps while you let your eyes rest from backlit screens.. AKA as substitute when your eyes are getting tired or you need to preserve your eye stamina for future work.
There isn't a magic way that I've found to handwrite on a calendar and have it sync/share to other apps - the only viable way is to use OneNote with a calendar template OR a PDF calendar template that you annotate on and sync between your devices. Both of these options are clunky.
It is, IMO, an "early adopter" product in that it feels not yet refined. Great concept, good build execution, and I think Onyx will end up making great strides if they focus more time into their software experience and testing. However, there's currently lots of UI/UX and software issues that need to be resolved to get it to a place where it can be seamlessly integrated without frustration. Compared to something like an iPad or Samsung Tab, the integration here feels "young" and "inexperienced".
This review is incredibly well done! Your analysis of the device was deep and thought through, from the specs to the user experience in almost every possible scenario. Thank you so much for such great work.
Really appreciate that!!!! Thanks for taking the time to watch =)
This is the most thorough review of an item that I’ve ever seen! You cover every aspect of the device. Great job and looking forward to more from you.
Really appreciate that!! Thank you for watching and many more reviews are in the queue!!!
I watch hundreds of reviews and this one of yours deserves an award. Coincidentally with your first RUclips vid, this is my first comment to a review.
You have saved me and I suspect many others the expenditure on this device.
I hope that the manufacturers take heed of your feedback.
Your well balanced and extensive review stands as a splendid example to others.
This may be your first but I sincerely hope that it is not your last.
I really appreciate that - it means a lot! I am striving to make many more.
I've got 2 more e-ink devices in the queue already.. but it will take me a while to get acquainted with them and make a video - probably 3+ weeks out.
I have some other productivity gadget reviews incoming over the next couple weeks. Appreciate you staying tuned as I get accustomed to RUclips and what people want to watch.
You need to review everything… wow! Very insightful and very detailed
Truly appreciate that! Thank you for watching. I am working on finishing my Tab Ultra C Pro review.. it will be very similar but has some differences.
Very comprehensive review. I came here searching for a kindle for my girlfriend that could do color and i hardly knew anything. You not just reviewed the product thoroughly but also explained the tech pretty nicely. I appreciate your efforts
I really appreciate that! Thank you for watching, and I hope you are one step closer to finding the perfect device for your girlfriend.
What an awesome-deep review! This Creator definitely deserves an RUclips Oscar award!
Wow! Thank you!
It has been great for me so far. I have used to for 1 hour by taking random notes and solving integrals for fun (cause MY LIFE SUCKS). It is very great at that, and I found a way to get my notes online. The space that I'm gonna save in my place is gonna be significant.
Yes!! The quality of life improvement of not having to deal with analog notetaking (and the tedious process of organizing, reviewing, and trying to digitize those) is significant.
I've also found myself using it almost daily for taking notes or jotting down my thoughts.
Good luck with calculus!!!
@@aline.tech.reviews thanks. The worst are the physic classes though, but I know I will finally be able to draw beautiful graphs to help me. You cannot understand physics without them. Hopefully, I won't have to bring my heavy laptop in my hours of public transport adventure (main reason to get the tablet). One last thing, do you know any case that I can use to transport the Ultra C?
@@Cless - Haha.. agreed the colors for drawing graphs is super handy! It also adds a bit of fun when your mind wanders and you start doodling.
I don't know of any cases unfortunately, I only have the magnetic case that came with it and the keyboard cover case. Neither of those seem like they will provide long-term protection for you.
I would check out the Onyx Boox Reddit community and see if anyone there has recommendations. I will also search around and maybe find a couple to try out/review for us!
@@aline.tech.reviews Thanks! I
This is really a deep review, especially you provided the cons which were not mentioned by others. This is very useful, after checked your vedio, i bought a Ultra C. To be honest, this device is far more than what i expected it to be.
Love to hear it! Please come back and let me know how you get along with it in time. I am still using mine (almost) daily!
Thanks for reviewing this and for helping me decide. I also enjoyed every minute of this video. And I just realized, I watched it on 1.0x speed which almost never happens.
I appreciate you spending your time watching! It means a lot, and comments like this help me keep pushing on.
I have a new review of the new Tab Ultra C Pro the way! My initial thoughts video should drop tomorrow, and the full review will hopefully be up within 3 weeks
Wow. That’s what I call a thorough review. Thank you!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave feedback!!
This channel deserves a million subscribers, how is such a good review have soo less views
Haha, thank you!
It's my first video and I expected to get maybe 20 views, so I'm ecstatic with how many people this has reached and helped. We will grow in good time as I get more practice!
Your first whaaat? D:
Very impressive first video, wow!
Very useful with details that nobody out there has mentioned before. Congrats!
Really appreciate that, Santiago! Thank you for the kind words =)
I think this is the first video I have seen with the tablet put alongside another traditional style screen. Wow, I hadn't realised just how different the colours were. I think these could be good for developers that spend most of their time playing with code and use colour for syntax etc.
Great video. Thank you.
Finished watching the rest of the video and oddly I think a lot of the things this suffers with, my old Note Air doesn't, even things like the marker fading the text doesn't happen on mine.
Mine is a mono only device so maybe this is related to the colour screen rather than the software? I use it all the time for notes and think I would find the Ultra C very frustrating.
@@thebaldconvict - Yea, as far as I'm aware those pen issues don't exist even on the B&W Tab Ultra (mind you, I don't have one of those.. so I'm only going off of what I've seen from others). All of the forum posts I've seen have been in regard to the color version.
The screen issues I pointed out also don't exist there - as the darkness/subpixel graininess are caused by the color layer.
It definitely gets frustrating. They kind of fade into the background once you get into a flow state/get used to using it for multiple hour sessions, but then you come back and just notice them all - I've even gotten angry at the thing which is not a good sign, haha.
Excellent review and delivery. I subscribed to your channel halfway through the video. Well done!
I really appreciate that! Thank you for watching and your vote of confidence.
This was exactly the kind of in-depth review I was looking for - well rounded, articulate and thought-out. Thank you for making it, and as others have said, it's hard to believe this was your first review. Talk about coming out of the gate swinging!
I truly appreciate the kind words!! Glad the video was of help. I have some new e-ink devices in my hands, so more reviews are on the way!!
Best review of the Tab Ultra C. Thank you!!
!!!! Thank you for the kind words
I would love a follow up video with tips to minimize the security flaws!
This is an amazing video; incredible to think it’s your first! It’s thorough and really useful and interesting. And I really enjoy your pace and style. But I think what I liked most was your understanding of different audiences - you explained why you hoped the device would help you for those of us who wanted to know, but made it easy to find just the product review too. Hope there will be lots more videos.
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and leave such a lovely comment!!
One of my goals with this channel is to share my personal use cases + ways in which the devices can be integrated into others' lives (that I might not use it for)... as technology can be implemented in so many ways. I was hesitant to include my personal context for each review (worried that no one would care), but it's reassuring to know folks enjoy that and understand they can easily skip it.
Lots more reviews on the way!!!! I have 3 more e-ink devices in the queue, as well.
this was your first video? wow impressive. Excellent review and it was very genuine.
It was - and I truly appreciate that; thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
Great review. You added a lot of interesting info that nobody else has done yet in the other reviews out there.
I truly appreciate that! Thank yoh for watching.
Wow. I can't believe I'm here as your 65th Sub.
You'll have a million subscribers one day if you keep this up.
Thanks for taking the time to watch, comment, and subscribe - that's a lot, and I truly appreciate it!
I plan to keep it up!! I am going to try some shorter videos around the TUC and get in some other tech reviews that I had planned - so appreciate you sticking around while I test and try things - and please don't hesitate to sound off in the comments if I'm heading down the wrong path.
This was brilliant. I was considering the device and wanted some sensible information that did not feel like an ad or clickbait, and this was perfect.
Is this seriously your first video up here, or do you have a previous channel? If it really is the first, I am blown away.
It seems the tech is not quite ready, but boy I hope it succeeds, so that more can be invested and we get to see more change in e-ink tech. Just imagine if they ever get e-ink to reasonable refresh rates, so that it can open the world of office work and gaming to e-ink devices. From hiding in the shadows of our nerdcaves, to being able to work and play videogames outdoors. Complete world-changer. Think of the fortune handheld consoles would make in that world.
I truly appreciate that!! That is quite literally my main objective with this channel, so it's reassuring to know it's received well.
It's my first channel! I did spend 2-3 years learning about filming/audio/etc. (aka, procrastinating) and trying to convince myself to take the leap. =)
And agreed there - it definitely doesn't feel quite "there", but I'm running into that problem with a lot of tech these days. I've since tested a handful of other e-ink devices, and can confidently say the Tab Ultra C seems to be one of the top contenders at the moment (if not the top) even with all its flaws. It doesn't feel like there's an offering above it, so to me it is the current ceiling.
And LOL. Your vision of the potential future sounds lovely (except the going outside part!!). I'm wondering if e-ink will die out completely in lieu of another reflective technology. I can't imagine us refining what e-ink is to the degree it needs to be. It feels like there is a hard limit of what can be achieved based on the current pacing of the tech. I hope I'm wrong about that!
Wow, what a great, first, in-depth video lol! Who is this guy lol? This first vid is better than others who have been doing this for a while. You came out swinging sir!
Sheeeeesh! Really appreciate the kind words, thank you for watching!!!
This review rivals and even extends the My Deep Guide review. Well done.. I have the non C version and was wondering about upgrading.
That's awesome to hear! Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Where did you end up? Worth the upgrade for you?
OMG your first RUclips video and one of the most useful among the lot. I am looking around for alternate solutions as my eyes are not keeping up with my needs. I guess I will settle with a bw version of the Boox tablet.
Truly appreciate that!
Supernote I believe is also about to unveil their next line-up (but I don't know that they are bringing color).. if you're not in a dire rush it might be worth waiting to see how their v2.0 lineup comes out. As I've read, they are allowing for Android OS so you may get to install all apps as well.
man, thanks for the proper review!
after watching countless reviewers I almost pulled the trigger on this one, but then I saw this proper review.
the points that you made would have made me send this thing back asap,
I would have take it more to play and doodle as a stress relief.. but seeing this bugs would really annoy me.
wonder if the BW version has these issues as well, especially the not registering the first stroke
probably I'll get a ipad instead..
thanks!
You're very welcome!
Boox has released a TUC Pro now that has upgraded hardware, and they also updated the software quite a bit. It definitely still has its issues, but they did improve a lot.
I should have my new review up in 2 weeks or so
@@aline.tech.reviews cool, looking forward for it, did they fixed the initial pen input lag?
that one was quite an embarrassing bug at this price point
They kind of fixed it in a software update; check out my Beta 3.5 update video and you can see it. They implemented a workaround to make it appear on its own shortly after drawn, but it's not 100% fixed.. just an improvement over what did exist.
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ok, I'll wait for the full fix then,
thanks for the info!
A comprehensive review that ticks all the boxes. Thanks.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Good job on your first Vid. Best of luck in future. I bought the Tab Ultra C but now returning it. So glitchy and frustrating to use. Too many frustrations to mention. Buying a Remarkable 2, I am mostly note taking and planning, that should do the job. Also half the price if I get alternative pen and cover on Amazon.
Thank you!! I really appreciate that.
Sorry to hear that the Tab Ultra C didn't work out for you, but agreed that sounds like the best decision on your part. I made a video about its flaws here as well. I've heard remarkable (lol) things about the Remarkable 2! I haven't tried it yet, but it's on the list. I'm currently testing other e-ink tablets like the Amazon Scribe and MobiScribe WAVE to see if they can function as cheaper alternatives to the TUC.
Definitely let me know how you get along with the Remarkable 2 and whether your experience was any better!
The Best review I have seen ! it covers areas almost all other reviews don't - Well done
Really appreciate that, thank you!!
My Tab Ultra C Pro (the updated version of this tablet) video shold finally be finished in a week or so.
Wow congrats for this being your first video on RUclips. You did great, you definitely had convinced me to at least try it, until you pointed out it’s flaws. Who would have known this is your first video on RUclips very professional and thought out. I’m subscribed and your name is very cool. Well done.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Really appreciate it.
I'm still finding use for it nearly daily here - so I've been able to live with the flaws. I will post a 3-month and 6-month update, for sure! I'm planning to release a new video this weekend on the features that I really like.
A very thorough review. Thank you.
I would appreciate if you could make a video on the status of the security concerns, what has and hasn't been changed since you made the video. It has been two months.
Looking forward to more videos. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the kind words!
I do have a new video in the works, it should be ready by next weekend. I have gotten the Beta 3.5 firmware (and tested the Beta 3.4 prior to that). They have added a handful of new features and patched the Android OS, but that's about it. I will do my best to make sure that video is completed by next weekend so you can get caught up.
You're awesome .. like your style and detailed information. Comes natural from you .. keep it up
I truly appreciate that!! I am almost done with my Tab Ultra C Pro review. I hope to publish it this coming week.
Im here aswell out of curiosity! Well done man, also nice starting studio! Also big ups to also putting up chapters! Not my cup of tea, but a deserved like!!!
Really really eye-opening and honest review.. Thanks a lot!
Glad to hear it! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave a comment - truly appreciate it!
This is your first RUclips video!? Wow that's pretty good man congratulations! Thanks for the review!
It is! I truly appreciate it and thank you for watching and taking the time to leave such a comment!
These are like the Oscar level films of tech review videos. Great work hope it goes well.
Truly appreciate that, thank you! I have an updated Tab Ultra C Pro video for this filmed, I just need to find time in the schedule to edit it. I'm hoping it will be out before August.
I wish there wasn't the camera, because that would've decreased the price
It's definitely one of those features that feels "unnecessary" on this device. I imagine anyone needing to take a photo of a document would have an easier time pulling out their phone to snap quickly and ship it to their Boox device.
Camera is probably more useful for scanning qr codes
I suspect it didn't add much to the cost of the thing.
Thank you for this super detailed review! I was interested on a device for reading (including comics/graphic novels) and sketching, so color E-ink sounded good. I'm now convinced that this tablet (and maybe E-ink in general) is not for me (or not yet, at least), even if it sounds like a nice way to read outside in the sun.
I would suggest that this is more of a workhorse solution and probably overkill for your use cases/scenario.
If your main use case is reading/writing, I would check out the 7.8 versions like the Tab Mini C, or the Bigme Goyue v6. They have all the same features and functionalities outside the keyboard case at like half the price.
The smaller versions are not only cheaper, but also easier to hold for reading. The larger 10.3 are not fun for holding and reading for long periods.
very good video in production, content, and analysis! You started at a very high level! Good job!
I really appreciate that; thank you for taking the time to watch!
Amazing review! You shed a light on this device from many perspectives and you did it thoroughly. Congratulations on such a great first video!
Concerning the device: It looks promising. First impression of build quality is fine, though the rest leaves something to be desired. Especially looking at the premium price tag. Some of the hardware related things like the connectors or the issues with the screen might become unnerving to some in the long run while others can live with it. Some software related issues could be resolved through updates. However, I doubt it will all happen, speaking from experience with other companies. The adaptions to make better use of the color e-ink are nice and for me, the screen + pen input are the biggest selling points. But in the end, it all looks a bit unpolished and needs further development to make it really shine.
Like you put it: It has its advantages and if you are in the market for such a device, it really depends on your use case. However for me, I will stay away from it. Too many compromises to be made. Still, I hope that devices like this pave the ground so other manufacturers also join in and develop new productivity focused devices.
Once again, thanks for the review and saving me from buying a device I would not have been satisfied with 😅
I truly appreciate that! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave such a thoughtful comment.
I think you summarized it quite well! I did my best to point out everything I could find so viewers could make an informed decision based on their personalities, so I'm happy to see the video was of value to you in that way. =)
Onyx has released a beta firmware that fixes some of the issues (like the pen stroke bug, and reportedly the security patches). I haven't tried them out yet but am debating giving it a shot to update the community.
I too, hope that these companies are inspired, by comments like yours, to push e-ink and other technologies forward. It seems obvious there is a new wave of interest surging for e-ink and productivity tech.. so fingers crossed!
Wow man! First video, and made so very professionally.
Thank you very much for the information (although wished you worked more on the second screen and streaming tab to screen portions to show more capabilities of the device - nitpicky I know).
Nonetheless, great job and wish you well. Keep up the good work.
I really appreciate that, thank you!
And noted! I have a second video in the works here where I demonstrate my favorite productivity features of the Tab Ultra C, and one of those is the second screen/virtual display options. I am hoping to release it this Sunday or Tuesday - so keep an eye out for that!
Fantastic review! Unbiased, very practical, great focus!! Didn't feel long!
Would love to see such a review on a Lenovo thinkbook gen4 twist laptop!
Seems like a good complement!
One added but important advantage with an e-ink device is that you can use it in bright sunlight environments.
A huge thank you for this video! You saved me from wasting both time and money.
You're very welcome; glad it was helpful! Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Well done Sir!
Be proud of yourself!
Go find a mirror, tell yourself that you earned it! And be thankful for every single detail of what you see in that mirror!
Especially your eyes..
Cause though they often feel dry and sore and sometimes even grants you nothing but pain and troubles..
You must always remind yourself, that you and them, are one.. You share a common goal and without your vision, they would be blind, and without your sight, you would have no vision.
Thank you
Haha, thank you, and well said!!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. =)
Very good review with never heard before criticism. Very nice.
Really appreciate the kind words, thank you for taking the time to watch!
Awesome review mate. Ive just ordered the tab ultra c pro. A bit of an impulse purchase, but hoping it will provide my eyes with some respite.
Appreciate that! It's definitely good at that - it may take you a minute to get used to working from Android if you aren't familiar with using a tablet, but stick with it. There are tradeoffs for that eye relief, but it makes for a great companion in that regard. I still use my Pro daily.
And apologies that I didn't get my Tab Ultra C Pro video out on time - ran into a bit of snag with my dad's health that set me back many months. It's all filmed, I just need to edit it together, so aiming for early August!
Thanks for such a complete review. I was thinking about purchasing this one, but the price is really high. With your review, I will hold on that purchase.
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
There's never any harm in waiting for the next generation unless you absolutely need it now. Also, as a FYI, buying used is a good option for a discount!
The best review of this product! I want to buy e-ink tablet, I need full functionality - to be able sync files via cloud, have colors for blueprints and 700Eur price tag is very harsh for product which can turn out to be flop in first day of use.
Really appreciate that! Thank you for watching.
And yes, these devices are pricey. I can say I am still using this one often to save my eyes from a traditional screen, but if you don't need it I would go for iPad/Galaxy Tab for sure!
Phenomenally good review, thank you!
Sure thing; thank you for taking the time to watch! I am way behind video schedule, but I have an updated review of the Tab Ultra C Pro releasing in ~1 week from today. It's very similar but has a lot of notable improvements.
First video? Deserves a sub. You can be the next Gerald Undone if you keep this up.
Truly appreciate that! Fingers crossed; #goals.
Excellent first video
Really appreciate that, thank you!!
You are a real YT pro! Please do more videos! I suggest you to review the Book Tab Mini C, a smaller version of this. It would be a real game changer, since it's smaller
I really appreciate that, thank you!
The Mini C could be a game changer for many! It's effectively the same device just shrunk down to be more compact/comfortable for holding; I presume the performance will be similar outside smaller changes like a different pen/larger bezels/etc. I am hoping for a larger screen version, like the Tab Ultra C X - as I don't have a large use case for a smaller, more portable version than the 10.3".
I am debating on whether it's worth the purchase just to review it to keep this audience informed, and maybe give it away!
I have an eye disease and E ink has been a godsend. I got the Tab X. I am very happy with it in general, But I am very frustrated with the lack of keyboard cover and bad Usb port, No camera as well as lack of appS optimized for the tech. for someone who suffers with MGD stage 3, I simply cannot use normal LCD screens so this is the best I can get at the moment for academic purposes. I hope one day there will be an E ink fully functional Laptop.
Glad the Tab X is working for you! And definitely understand the limitations you have listed there - outside of color, lack of the keyboard cover was a big factor for me in the Tab Ultra C (even though the larger screen was super appetizing).
Are you up-to-date on the Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Twist? I'm not sure if the price will be justified for you if you don't need/can't use the OLED screen, but here is a preview: ruclips.net/video/toRHQhR4UPI/видео.html . It was projected to be launching sometime in 2023. Regardless of whether or not you get this, it proves that companies are investing and e-ink laptops are right around the corner.
Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Gen 2's are still around if you buy used, I think!
Good review, looking forward for more.
Truly appreciate that! Working hard and should have a constant stream of videos on the way =)
38:08 - I don't think these security issues are well known by the vast bulk of consumers purchasing this device, thanks for the heads-up.
Happy to help!
As a bonus (that didn't make it into this video, but made it into my "BIGGEST FLAWS" video): it seems their Linux kernel is also coming up on its end of life at the start of 2024. Meaning BOTH their kernel and Android OS security updates are being sunset. This is going to require an upgrade that Onyx doesn't seem to have on their menu.. as they are still trying to catch up to an old Android's OS security updates (which are in beta and super slow moving). It's likely these devices aren't going to be secure for some years - I would guess they get enough pushback and release their next line of devices.
Great review. Something I would be interested in once they get the speed of these displays up. The lag is just too much.
Thank you!
And yea, I recall Onyx stated that is one of their primary focuses - improving refresh rates.
Thanks for the security issue warning. It is a no go for me !
I should have the new model (PRO) soon, just waiting for delivery, which comes with Android 12 - so will retest.
I've also reached out to BOOX regarding security policies. Waiting to hear back.
As a tech guy, i immediately subscribed after such an in-depth review. You're on par with the big guys. Since it's your first video i Imagine you'll quickly have alot of subscribers and viewers if you keep it up like this!
Good luck on your progress! Ps: what's up with the socks ? Kinda gives off a barefoot vibe..
Thanks for your review!
Man, I really appreciate that! Are you big into tech outside of e-ink, tablets, & smartphones, as well (thinking desk gadgets, peripherals, etc.)?
^ That is the direction I am honing in on as I love desk gadgets/setups, peripherals, and productivity. I will continue other reviews, too - and already have 3 e-ink devices in the queue - but they are very niche products and are a significant purchase for most users. I'm trying to confirm whether that's a direction viewers like yourself are interested in!
And lololol. I don't like thick socks or socks that touch my ankles - this type is thin, low, and super comfortable.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and leave such a wonderful comment.
It's really sad because I've been wanting to buy an e-ink device since many years and have been noticing the same problems you describe. The devices don't seem to get out of beta stage. Outdated components are being installed. The software is not fully developed. Yes, there is some improvement, but overall the price-performance ratio is not really good enough.
When will there finally be such a device from Samsung or Apple? The market should certainly be there, even outside of the academic working world.
Great review, I rarely watch full 50 minutes of a video, but this was really useful. Would be curious to see a review of the Boox Air3c from you!
It was the Flossy Carter reference that made my day.😂
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Excellent, professional-quality review. You deserve far more subs. Well, you at least got one more in me. :)
I really appreciate that! Thanks for taking the time to watch, comment, and subscribe
Thank you for this excellent 5* review.
Thanks for taking the time to watch! Appreciate you!
I don't know you and I'm only at 1:29 minute but I truly think that you are a software developer or something like that, because I am one of them and I just purchased one of these tablets for relief my eyes because I always I am in front of so many monitors and displays because of my job.
You got it! I was a web developer for over 14 years; now, I am a director that manages teams of developers and project pipelines.
I am at my computer for 12+ hours a day typically for just work, and then more after for personal use + my phone in between.
My eyes are in pain quite often because of it
I would apreciate a video where you introduce the viewer to the device specific productivity apps (and your oppinion about their usefulness). Especially the productivity apps, that make use of the stylus and/or keyboard.
Great suggestion, noted!
As a FYI, there aren't many apps that work well with the stylus. The default Boox Notes & Reader apps (that come with the device) are the bread and butter for the stylus. They have done some software "optimizations" (workarounds) to make the stylus usable in Microsoft OneNote and Evernote apps (and I feel they are actually usable here without issue). However, that's the extent - any other app suffers a major latency and isn't worth using with the pen stylus.
The keyboard can be used in any app - the latency/delay is a little greater in third-party apps, but it's an area where your brain adapts quickly and it's useable in most apps you use. Any app you would imagine typing in should work well with the keyboard!
Thanks for your honest and detailed review.
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
One thing that you want to share is that the "productivity" part is very deceiving, as the pen works well only with the 3 apps that Boox make; while every other android app basically is not usable with the pen due to the latency. Also you want to point out that every Android app has issues when used on this tablet due to the fact that they are not optimized for eink tablets, so no matter what, they will never look or run as well as on a proper android LCD screen.
Also you may want to say that even a Kindle fire tablet that cost less than 200 dollars look better than this screen, which is so washed off in terms of color gamut, that instead of giving relief to your eyes, strain your eyes even more if you try to read anything like a book that has colors with different shades that are close enough to each other.
So maybe it is great for some user cases, like writing an email? Reading an ebook? The way in which this device is pushed feel like a bit too much to be honest, almost like it is "sold" more than reviewed. Color eink screen exist since the 2000s, and they have been mostly disappointing; they are getting better but far from being as good as LCD... And there is still a long way to go.
Yea, your comment essentially summarizes my review, just without the positives. It's a little confusing because I can't tell if you are echoing what I said in my review, sharing your similar experience, or didn't watch it and are trying to tell me what I should be saying from your point of view/experience.
Boox has optimized for some third-party apps, like OneNote, but yea, that doesn't prove super beneficial considering a primary selling pont of the device is that you can install nearly all Android apps which are not optimized (and no one seems to mention it).
Agreed, there is a long way to go with the technology to bring it to the level of an LCD, but who knows if it's even possible to get it there. As stated in the review, I had thought e-ink as a technology died out a decade ago.. but it seems like a new wave of popularity is surgering here.
Gallery 3 screens exist which use color ink and display a wider gamut at 300ppi, I'm not quite sure why Onyx chose Kaleido 3 over that, but I preusme its due to the horrid refresh rates. I'm hoping they build and refine one with Gallery so we can see how it compares.
@@aline.tech.reviews I was echoing some of the points but in a different way. The spin you put on your review is positive; mine is more on the negative side. What I would get from your review as "potential buyer" is that the device is worth 700 dollars and this is the best thing ever; which clearly it is not... But the message is not sent out in a way that is easy to be digested IMO. That's why I wanted to put out my comment in a straightforward way that remove the positives.
Sure, the device has positives, but if we factor weight, battery life, price and overall performances compared to other productivity devices, it is not really worth it. If we compare it to other eink devices, it is a level above the others but still not that much better to justify the extra weight, battery consumption and price (for example the Note air 2 plus is a much better device overall, if you can live with the slight latency when scrolling, at a gain of a slimmer, lighter, more sleek device that last you 3 times longer and that cost you less than half the price).
As far optimizations; Boox did not optimize the app itself; Microsoft did some optimization for low refresh screen; and Boox did use some tricks to write on screen buffer so it looks like the pen actually wrote in the app, and then overlay the drawing on the actual app in a delayed update; they have been doing this since a couple of years now with OneNote using their APIs, and they tried to do the same also with Evernote, with much worst results, because Evernote is not as optimized as Onenote for low refresh screens.
There is only so much that Boox can do; to get real benefits, app makers need to implement APIs from each maker of devices and optimize their apps, to get low latency for the pen sadly; and what a device can do is to limit the refresh time of areas of the screen to improve responsiveness, which is not perfect and require a lot of power (and it is something that eink screen were not made for).
I give credit to Boox for trying, but they are fundamentally hacking things around with eink screen tech; instead of focusing on what eink screen are good at and do the best they can in that area. They should work with app makers to improve the app responsiveness on eink screen, instead of add a GPU to force refresh and use tricks and hacks that suck away battery life and make the device heavy, to make it "faster".
Gallery3 screen are used in some devices like the Bigme, but from early reviews it seems they are not as fast as the Kaleido3; so I guess Boox went for these for that reason. You gain in color quality but lose in refresh speed...
Hasn‘t Onyx patched OneNote and Evernote? I think it‘s important to know the limitations of the screen, but I don‘t agree with your assessment. The TUC is very usable as an everyday tablet to me - unlike previous onyx devices. maybe not for video or viewing photos, but to read the web, use apps and notetaking it is very nice
@@HolgerNestmann Onyx cannot patch either app because they cannot change the source code of neither OneNote nor Evernote. And neither EverNote nor OneNote have integrated Onyx SDK to support their pen and screen functionalities.
They just did a workaround to increase spot refresh responsiveness and delay the update in the app.
Mind to share what can you do on the TUC that you could not do on a NA2+ for example? I can read the web on the NA2+ just fine, if I need to get info or an article on the fly, and the same apps that work on the NA2+ work exactly the same on the TUC... 99.9% the same; you can measure them easily, if nobody already did that.
The only thing that is objectively faster is video playback (faster than previous eink; still sub-20 FPS, mind you) and a smoother scroll on web content and documents in 1st party apps like the browser and the reader. And the pen is more responsive when writing on 1st party note app.
For 3rd part apps... Not much.
It is a nice device, sure; but not much nicer than a NA2+ to justify the extra bulk, weight, reduced battery life and the worst resolution with disappointing washed colors. You can almost buy 2 NA2+ with the same money of a TUC...
For eye strain I reccomend dell 3014 and 3023 model monitors.
Their resolution, size and quality is so good that I have zero eye fatigue after 16 hours constant use.
God damn. One of, if not the best tech product review videos I've ever had the pleasure of watching and I've watched A LOT. I've been going deep down the rabbit hole on e-ink tablets and have watched countless reviews/impressions vids on the TUC and this was the most thoughtful and informative by a mile. Utterly shocked this is your first video review ever. Outstanding job. Instant subscribe! Thank you for all the excellent info. Has given me A LOT to think about, esp since this device has been sitting in a shopping cart of mine for a bit now and I keep going back and forth on hitting that purchase button.
Haha! I really appreciate that, thank you!!
In case you haven't seen it: I released a video yesterday on the 6 best features of the TUC, in my opinion, and I plan to release another video this weekend of the 6 biggest flaws/issues I've had with it. Those may provide some more specific use-case scenarios for you to consider.
Also, if you have any questions or hesitations, please don't hesitate to ask! I'm happy to share my experience or test something out for you if you have a specific use case. I'm still doing a lot of testing with the device.
great vid. thanks for the spec break down at the start, for us noobs.i have done e ink for years. but get no comparison of cpu and gpu kudos
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for taking the time to watch.
Wow amazing review! You went in depth on the negatives you found (something a lot of reviewers don’t do) and for that you got a subscriber. It would be great if you could add the Boox Palma to your list of things to review. :)
Really appreciate that! I will definitely add it to the list. I'm semi-waiting for them to release a new version that accepts a SIM card. ;)
I think it would be fairer to compare the screen to a printed page rather than tablet screens which are intended for media/video consumption, e-ink screens are meant to be a digital alternative to print. Otherwsie an outstanding review 👍
That's actually a legitimate point! I didn't think to make that comparison for the review.
I will say most inkjet color printers produce much more vibrant colors than this screen (and standard printer paper much whiter in similar lighting conditions). I do now wonder how the Gallery 3 color e-ink screens would compare to an inkjet printer, since they are both 'mixing' colored inks.
And thank you for the kind words! I will keep this comment in mind for my next e-ink review.
Wow... this is an amazing review.. and truly sad reality.. very well articulated..
Thank you for the kind words; I truly appreciate it!
Despite the issues noted, I still find the Tab Ultra C to be great for notetaking and reading/simple/public tasks. I'm still using it nearly daily and imagine doing so until I find a worthy replacement.
Outrageous price! They're targeting the rich techies! These should be less than $200 for all the tech that is in them!
wow! that was an incredibly thorough and honest review. As a physician with entrepreneurial aspirations outside of traditional medicine, I'm looking for a productivity tool that doubles as a notebook. I was all in after watching Kitt's videos and now I am going to wait due to the security issues you mentioned. I may consider Remarkable 2 until boox figures it out. Thank you again!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave a review!
Onyx has made a statement claiming they plan to at least update the OS security patches; however, that is coming ~3 years late, and at the end of life for Android 11 security support (which means even if they do get it updated, they may let them lapse for another ~3 years).
I would suggest checking around for Remarkable2 security posts! I don't have one, but I presume if you plan to do patient work on it you will need a device that is HIPAA complaint and I don't know that the Remarkable2 cloud is. However, likely above the security of paper. =)
Subscriber #256 I believe. Well done and looking forward to your future work.
That's a good number - you are the Byte : 256stuff.com/256.html .
Appreciate that and thank you for taking the time to watch and subscriber =)
Keep 'em comin' I'll keep watchin'.
I'm convinced now to buy Air 2 instead, thanks :)
Glad the video was helpful! Thank you for watching =)
I got an older color boox tablet a few years ago. I thought I was going to read a bunch of comics, manga, and manwa, but mostly I just read books. I have read comics and manga, both of which worked very well, but I failed to consider that manwa were meant for scrolling and not for pages, which means that you'll get a lot of ghosting or lots of refreshing. It would be nice to have an option to jump up and down half a screen to a whole screen without scrolling the space in between to avoid ghosting, but I haven't found a way to do so. I like the idea of color e-ink, but I have found that the trade off of the darker screen isn't really worth it for me. Maybe if I was a massive comic fan it would be perfect, but I read far more manga and normal books, both of which are somewhat diminished due to the color layer.
Hey there! I am not familiar with manwa, but I do believe I understand your issue. What app are you using to read/scroll the manwa? NeoReader?
I agree with you on the dark screen - it's a tough area to justify for those of us who are sensitive to it. I do hope it's an area that future generations of color e-ink can improve on. I haven't yet seen Gallery 3 in real life to know how it compares.
I have an ONYX Poke 3 reader. As a teacher I wanted to be able to use library apps and google classroom. I really need a larger screen and color for reading and correcting. What are your thoughts?
It sounds like the TUC might be a great fit for you - especially if you intend to use the pen for reviewing/correcting in the Boox apps! You will need perform that task in PDF or OneNote format for usability as the pen does not work super well in most other apps. If you're planning to review student uploads as like Word docs, or something else, or edit with a keyboard, then maybe not the best application unless you absolutely need e-ink.. unless you intend to convert to PDF/image/reader format so you can write on it.
I can confirm that annotating (whether it be through handwriting or selecting and highlighting/categorizing text) PDFs in color is an amazing value add, and one that I use pretty much daily now.
I just tested the Google Classroom app for you and it seems to work just fine. I don't see any drawing capability in the app so you won't have to worry about third-party app pen input delay. You can upload files you exported on the device directly into Classroom. Note: I didn't go too deep into the full app's functionality or try any addons, just did some basic setup to confirm the app didn't have any glaring issues with this device and visibility/input delay. If you want to invite me to some test classroom and see something specific, I'm happy to try it out and send you a video recording of how it works.
If you are teaching students, by that I mean you are not hosting your own e-learning course where you control your privacy policy, I would make sure you get this device screened by your school / IT department to ensure they are good with the security level before using it to access sensitive student information.
Very on depth this was great!! I am contemplating this model for its app use because I use scribd alot but love my kindle due to eye strain. Thanks again great video!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching.
I can say having access to your apps is a great convenience - especially if they don't include apps for media creation or consumption.
We have the same laptop lap wedge. It's nice.
I do like it! The Tab Ultra C Pro (new version) keyboard doesn't fit on it though 😔
Top notch review... appreciated the nod to our boy floss :)
What a beautiful but flawed tablet.
I loved the pastel colours, the ink bleed effect... But man they're limiting themselves with those cheap components.
I'd happily pay double the price tag, if they could speed it up. I'm completely sold on the idea, the beauty and "potential" usability of that screen... But they need to do what Apple did, and say..."here's the product...it's premium, with a tag to match." 🤷♂️
I really appreciate that!
And I couldn't agree with you more - it's so close but yet so far. The software and and UI/UX issues, especially, are just not "refined" enough.. everything about the device feels extremely juvenile. In stark comparison to Apple/Samsung where you hop on and everything has been iterated on and tested so many times it "just works".
I still use it daily, because the eye relief are too important for me to pass on.. but definitely hope the refinement catches up more quickly.
I'd also pay double for a refined version.
The first stroke bug is almost non-existent in the beta firmwares. There's a delay but it's better,
I did see a Reddit post of Onyx releasing a beta firmware to fix this specific issue - did you get to try it first-hand?
I was hesitant to update as I am not seeing any coverage/protection around what happens if a beta firmware install bricks your device (I presume it will be the user's fault).. and wasn't able to find a way to revert to a previous firmware version. I recall seeing someone who had the beta update invert their colors and they are now stuck until Onyx pushes another update.
@@aline.tech.reviews l tried it. I have no problems so far cause I only use my device for the notes and for manga reading :). The colour fill surprisingly works very well too.
his voice is so relaxing lol
Haha, thank you!
The audio in this video turned out poorly, but I have managed to fix it in my latest video!
Well done. Have you tried using the tablet as an external monitor? I do this often with my Samsung tablet and have often wondered how an e-ink device would fair. I was thinking you could even have it on all the time and park certain apps there from your desktop/monitor like Messaging apps, Browser lookups etc. so you would be getting partial relief throughout the day.
I have! It unfortunately doesn't support DP Alt Mode so you can't plug it in and stream direct - you have to use an app and I found it easier to do so wirelessly.
It definitely can serve the purpose you've suggested, but I've found it to be a bit cumbersome in practice. The screen is only 10.3" inches so it's quite small for doing anything real. I mostly ended up using it as a display for simple text tasks like write e-mails or read long briefs sent by my team.. but that's all stuff I can do on the tablet without having it connected to my PC as a virtual display. I think you would want a 13-16 inch version to be able to make consistent use of it.