Jonah Hill and Therapyspeak Abuse | Hasanabi Reacts to Noah Samsen ft. I did a thing & Boy Boy

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2023
  • Hasan and his two Aussie friends react to Noah's breakdown of the ridiculous internet drama surrounding Jonah Hill and his ex-girlfriend's leak text messages!
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  • @HasanReactionsfanTwo
    @HasanReactionsfanTwo  Год назад +50

    Shout out to Noah for the great coverage! You can find more of him here: www.youtube.com/@NoahSamsen
    And as always, his video is linked in the description! Anyway, I hope you enjoy :)

    • @jsidkfncjfdldld
      @jsidkfncjfdldld Год назад

      Brain dead take

    • @predaderpgaming1042
      @predaderpgaming1042 Год назад +1

      Noah’s great it’s been amazing seeing his consistent uploads.

    • @mischr13
      @mischr13 Год назад +3

      good on you for linking to his video in description. too many react channels don't put in that effort

  • @user-ys4op3ux1p
    @user-ys4op3ux1p Год назад +34

    Jonah took "there's other fish in the sea" too literally and got unreasonably nervous about his girl surfing

    • @jamesharris5156
      @jamesharris5156 10 месяцев назад +1

      It only let me like this once :(

  • @bijubymari
    @bijubymari Год назад +352

    The reality is that people like this reveal themselves slowly. They don't just shift overnight. It starts with small but somewhat reasonable compromises and overtime you end up compromising yourself more and more because you'd do anything for that person. Next thing you know, you find yourself justifying his fucked up behavior to your friends and then you start keeping the worst of it to yourself. It's emotional abuse. It's manipulation and coercion and degrading. And I say this as someone who spent 4.5 years in an emotionally abusive relationship. I was a shell of a person by the end because I was the only one compromising myself. And it doesn't matter who tells you this is wrong or even if you recognize it and don't like it. It takes something big to cause you to come to the realization and find the strength to leave. Jonah hill is pathetic as hell but there are so many men out there just like him that want to be with a woman who is fun and outgoing and successful just to control her.

    • @hunterra217
      @hunterra217 Год назад +35

      ​@banquetoftheleviathan1404I feel like ppl who say this have never been in long term relationships. Of course they take work. You will not always like your partner, and love and infatuation fades, and true love is not the same as that infatuation. Saying relationships aren't work is childish. You will never find a person you are 100% compatible with, you will always have something to work through with your partner.

    • @hunterra217
      @hunterra217 Год назад +7

      Obviously I think Jonah Hill is shitty and embarrassing, partly because I've been similarly insecure before. I was definitsly not an abuser, I was just immature and insecure. Sometimes insecure losers are just insecure losers, and not diabolical conniving monsters. Good therapy helps, this just doesn't seem like the types of texts that I'd show to demonstrate deep seated emotional abuse. Maybe slightly with him asking her to stop surfing, but I just feel like this is being extrapolated into something it's not. This is an embarrassing loser who should be called that, but I think it's a tough sell to say anyone whos ever been jealous of hot people being around their partner are immediately horrific abusers, ya know?
      Sorry for the essay

    • @treekritter7522
      @treekritter7522 Год назад +9

      ​@@hunterra217You can be someone who was abusive in the past and change. Many people who have abusive behaviors aren't diabolical, doesn't make it any less damaging.
      I would still say it is emotionally abusive, whether intentional or not, but it doesn't mean you have to permanently label yourself as an abuser. Especially if you seek help to change your behaviour.

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee Год назад +6

      @@treekritter7522 you can be abusive and change. but if we look at the evidence(im in the field of DV) its an extremely small percentage of people(usually men) who change. to get rid of the entitlement that is at the root of interpersonal relationship trauma it takes about three years of deliberate HARD counseling from a legit abuse counseling institution. so no, many people dont change. only a few which is unfortunate. a lot of people like yourself believe that 'many' change because it feels good to believe that and most dont have an education on the subject. we dont even have college courses for this topic yet and we are thousands of years into rampant femicide. its a fucking mess

    • @jjcoolboyify
      @jjcoolboyify Год назад

      Having standards is abusive now lol. Y’all are soft as fuck

  • @Dr_OctacockdaPOTUS
    @Dr_OctacockdaPOTUS Год назад +146

    I am a domestic violence advocate as well as a survivor of emotional abuse. There is a power imbalance here, and that is abuse. It doesn't matter if the person strikes you or not, if a person is asking you to chip away pieces of yourself to make them happy, it's abuse. This is such a cut and dry example of what emotional abuse looks like, and the fact that people are arguing over whether or not this is abuse is the main reason why people do not come out and report. Emotional abuse isn't always in your face screaming, it is asking your partner to remove images of them from insta or not talking to certain people.
    For anyone reading: if your partner does any of these things, please, know you are worth so much more and that you don't need to change to make someone else happy and secure in the relationship. You are allowed to be you, and you do not need to make yourself smaller to make someone stand taller.

    • @Zapata1994
      @Zapata1994 Год назад +13

      True one time this girl said I should take a shower because I “smelled” I told her this who I am and I won’t stand for this abuse. Thank you for your kind words I will stand taller now. ❤

    • @Dr_OctacockdaPOTUS
      @Dr_OctacockdaPOTUS Год назад +23

      @@Zapata1994 your ingenuity is noted.

    • @Zapata1994
      @Zapata1994 Год назад +4

      @@Dr_OctacockdaPOTUS Alright you got me I do indeed take a shower everyday 👍🏽😔

    • @cdash
      @cdash Год назад +20

      Also unfortunately Hasan was victim shaming her for staying.
      I don’t think it’s from bad faith, but he clearly doesn’t understand the dynamics of abusive relationships!

    • @Zapata1994
      @Zapata1994 Год назад +7

      @@cdash But how is this abuse? Sure I do agree what Jonah did was dumb as fuck but to me it dose not look like abuse and I unfortunately have experience with abuse both verbal and physical, it never looked like this.

  • @jaygatsby3039
    @jaygatsby3039 Год назад +131

    Jonah didn’t learn coping strategies, he just learned how to use therapy speak to distance himself from his insecurities.

    • @solartyrant9049
      @solartyrant9049 Год назад +10

      That's because male insecurity is laughed at and called pathetic or weak rather than actually addressed and helped. I've been there, insecurity will eat a person alive, and no amount of self awareness helps on its own, knowing you have a problem doesn't really help you cope with it. I think Hasan, while right about Jonah being weak and insecure, just laughs and is like "man up lil bitch" 💀 what a toxic attitude to have towards something that's already toxic as is.

    • @moballardful
      @moballardful Год назад

      Yep.

    • @forge721
      @forge721 Год назад +1

      He went into a relationship he shouldn’t have, it’s not that that crazy. And new texts have come up, he’s reasonable as hell

    • @ezragoldberg3132
      @ezragoldberg3132 Год назад +1

      ​@@forge721Hasan and Noah knew that they didn't have the full context and only Saras perspective but couldn't help themselves. Now they'll have to take the L

    • @Vincisomething
      @Vincisomething Год назад

      ​@@ezragoldberg3132so, if they didn't have the full context and no one gave it to them, they can't be mad for them not knowing and going off of what they know.

  • @BloodHeart
    @BloodHeart Год назад +32

    This is the longest ive seen him consecutively take L after L. Like jesus lmfao.

  • @kylesutton5933
    @kylesutton5933 Год назад +446

    So have the Aussie boys just moved in with Hasan now? Has he finally joined their polycule?

    • @owengravy3645
      @owengravy3645 Год назад +80

      I think they're just staying for a month but we can hope

    • @kylesutton5933
      @kylesutton5933 Год назад +51

      @@owengravy3645 inshallah

    • @stayawake4470
      @stayawake4470 Год назад

      I'm here for the 3somes

    • @ChillAssTurtle
      @ChillAssTurtle Год назад +9

      ​@@kylesutton5933mashallah

    • @Kuroo39
      @Kuroo39 Год назад +6

      ​@@ChillAssTurtlealhamdulillah

  • @aisling7244
    @aisling7244 Год назад +54

    I really hate how easily Hasan will just dismiss an expert. That domestic violence researcher is so obviously trying to teach people common patterns and what to look out for, but Hasan, for all his claims that he’s a dumbass himbo, thinks he’s smarter than the expert. He *regularly* believes himself to be smarter than the experts. It’s incredibly annoying.

    • @suckboytony
      @suckboytony Год назад +1

      yes but you as human need to know that everything you hear is not correct information and you must use your context clues to figure it out instead of relying on a himbo streamer. hes entertainment at best

    • @ayooobro
      @ayooobro Год назад +8

      how did you miss the point so hard? immediately after he said that ididathing said “all that stuff could be true though” and Hasan was like “i know exactly”
      the point is all that speculation could be true, but she’s completely fucking speculating. just because you’re an expert in a subject doesn’t mean your word is law when you’re dealing in complete speculation.
      Jonah hill could be
      1. an insecure little bitch who got with a hot girl cos he liked her then his insecurities went wild in the relationship and he started coming out saying weird ass shit like that she shouldn’t be surfing with men etc
      orrrrr
      2. a mastermind abuser who seeks our strong women so he can manipulate and gaslight them to remove all their control and agency making himself feel more powerful and entrapping them in an abusive relationship with him where he holds all power over them
      like yeah of course the expert’s wild speculation of number 2. could be true, but it’s completely speculated off like 10 screenshots of text messages that portray an insecure loser.
      she has every right to weigh in with what she thinks about it but that doesn’t make it fact. hasan was literally saying what anybody not brainrotted out of their mind would say:
      “he’s an insecure little bitch and is completely in the wrong. i’m not gonna call him *an abuser with a gaping hole of incessant insecurity and need that he can never fill which he will use as a reason to emotionally manipulate and abuse strong women to feel powerful* because that’s not what the text messages show
      he could be, and this could be a “pattern reminiscent of that” but what we saw is not that. she was brave enough to come forward with that stuff, if the massive psychoanalysis speculation is true then she’ll come forward with the rest and we can agree on what he is.

    • @faeoro
      @faeoro 8 месяцев назад +3

      his perspective is still that of a straight cis male. despite his attempts to improve his knowledge, he still lacks so much awareness

  • @daniellebalouise9596
    @daniellebalouise9596 Год назад +154

    On the note of "it being odd" that she released the info later instead of when breaking up, the subtle coercive type of abuse Jonah partook in takes time to unpack and see for what it is. It's common for someone in an abusive relationship to minimize the actuality of it when in it. It took me a long time after my last relationship to understand that what my ex did was abusive. It took a lot of layers and time to let go of how I saw it and see how it I'd see it if I hadn't been in it. The love makes you blind, and if the love doesn't, the need to survive does.
    You either are too close to the details and can't see the big pattern, or you're too zoomed out and can only see the big patterns.

    • @Vincisomething
      @Vincisomething Год назад +2

      Apparently someone said Hasan and Noah didn't have full context so you can't blame them for going off of the info they were given. And people need to either stop inserting their own traumas into it or acting like they're professional criminal profilers which, like you said, only leads them to focus on patterns and make assumptions than look at what's actually there.
      Yes, we all know what behaviors can be early signs of abuse and while those behaviors probably say you should reconsider the relationship, it's not always someone plotting to groom you. Sometimes they really are that insecure and actually believe this will save them. Sometimes people engage in behavior they don't recognize is harmful and they think they're just protecting themselves.
      For example, someone lashes out and yelled at their partner. A passerby could easily conclude they're an abusive person who yells at their partner all the time. Not saying lashing out on them is excusable, but you could've caught a post-honeymoon phase couple in the middle of an argument or maybe they didn't mean to lash out. It's like you never heard of even happily married couples that used to fight in their early days but then solved it? The difference is their yelling or lashing out isn't intended to strike fear, it means they need to sort themselves out.
      The behavior is still unhealthy, just not always abuse

    • @jamesmorrison968
      @jamesmorrison968 Год назад +3

      not hard to notice abuse

    • @CDexie
      @CDexie Год назад

      @@jamesmorrison968 From what I understand, it is when you're in the thick of it, literally spending every day of your life with someone that's supposed to have a loving relationship with you.

    • @jamesmorrison968
      @jamesmorrison968 Год назад

      @@CDexie yeah they’re supposed to but if they don’t its not hard to notice

    • @mugenchamplooo
      @mugenchamplooo 3 месяца назад

      She dropped the messages right after Jonah's kids was born with his new girl. The timing tells all.
      Jonah was abusive and this lady was a bitter ex. Both things can be simultaneously true.

  • @MissMillsonxx
    @MissMillsonxx Год назад +107

    I don't understand how Hasan can admit the texts are controlling and manipulative but also say that's not abuse? Like, he's setting insane "boundaries" and then saying he'll leave her if she can't/won't meet them (withholding affection) and guilt tripping her by says she doesn't care about him. This is textbook emotional abuse.

    • @subzerostitties
      @subzerostitties Год назад +22

      he’s framing it as if it’s distant from some other “extreme” example of abuse and i dont understand why anyone would do that. like maybe it’s a fairly common act of abuse so some people see it as “just some guy being really weird” but that’s really minimizing it. then again hasan is often conveniently clueless when it comes to misogyny.

    • @OGimouse1
      @OGimouse1 Год назад +19

      @@subzerostitties People forget that just because it isn't the worst case scenario, it doesn't make it a good--or even okay--one.

    • @nullskey8370
      @nullskey8370 Год назад +8

      because abuse has a definition, the repetition/cycle being a part of it, hes being a dick but shes not a victim, she doesnt justify him or need help, she walked out bc the situation was ridiculous, if someone goes full red pill on the first date is not abuse its a bad date. now if she felt like she had to respect these rules bc otherwise the relationship would be hell, if she were scared of him or psychologically dependant that would be an abusive relationship, but she both left him and felt comfortable enough to release these absurd messages. it is bad tho obv hes not a nice person and this is not the first instance lmao

    • @jdtr3759
      @jdtr3759 Год назад +3

      I haven’t seen all the texts but telling your partner what your boundaries are isn’t abusive it can be abusive if you let a bunch of shit slide and blame them for it but you shouldn’t be with someone who makes you feel like shit either way

    • @subzerostitties
      @subzerostitties Год назад +6

      @@jdtr3759 damn yeah it’s really mean to be a surf instructor swimming in the ocean in bathing suits, teaching people of all genders how to surf. having the same job you had before the relationship started is so fucked up.

  • @waityseg
    @waityseg Год назад +46

    A wise woman once said “if you can’t handle a bad bitch don’t get one”

    • @forzer456
      @forzer456 Год назад +2

      And he has moved on from her and has a baby now with another woman yet she is still posting private messages of their convos after their relationship has ended.

    • @jjcoolboyify
      @jjcoolboyify Год назад +1

      If you can’t handle standards in a relationship then don’t get in one

    • @00bones00
      @00bones00 Год назад +6

      @@jjcoolboyify spoken like someone who will never be in a relationship

    • @suckboytony
      @suckboytony Год назад +1

      @@jjcoolboyifyhow is being controlled a standard of a relationship? i can see that with a puppy and human, but two humans?

    • @suckboytony
      @suckboytony Год назад +1

      @@00bones00took the words right out of my mouth

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee Год назад +122

    hasan doest realize that 'cool guys' who are attractive act like this too. he also doesnt realize that the way jonah is acting is how stephen crowder started

    • @bmaze944
      @bmaze944 Год назад +21

      Exactly. Hasan is looking for the end stages of abusive relationships and not the build-up to that. I would bet all my money on the fact that crowder also did shitty abusive stuff like this, and it steadily increased over the decade he was with his ex-wife.

    • @matttriano
      @matttriano Год назад +4

      Jonah is controlling and it suggests a kind of emotional abuse but that doesn't make him a physical abuser, serial abuser, or Satan himself. I don't know what cool guys are or what they want or what that has to do with Jonah Hill

    • @fluidthought42
      @fluidthought42 Год назад +3

      No, I've seen how guys like Stephen Crowder start. It's far, far more in your face than this. Like I was was screaming "Run bitch run!" in my head all night. If Jonah Hill is toxic, based off those few texts it's a more subtle brand. Would it have intensified? The people who would know more are the ones most motivated to twist the narrative.

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee Год назад +9

      @@fluidthought42 not to shit on your experience my guy but im likely one of the only people in this thread with over two decades of working with survivors and victims on and off. with a thousand hours in books and talking with professionals and being in the court systems and even in clubs hands on confronting a multitude of rapists and traffickers etc. Abuse counselors and clinicians like Carnes and Bancroft who wrote the bibles on abuse in their respective fields also know that there are some abusers who are in your face types. but most abusers take a lot of time to get to that with someone. they know that if they started with in your face heavy tactics they would lose partners. by the abusers own admission and by countless court documents, its rarely ever starting in your face type stuff. its much like a grooming process and no grooming starts heavy, it needs to be gradual to make a potential victim feel like its ok to be treated a certain way and so on

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee Год назад +7

      @@matttriano what the 'cool guy' thing has to do with jonah hill is that hasan is saying that cooler (more attractive, less insecure) men dont act like he is acting. where as like i stated in my original post, in reality, there is MOUNDS of evidence that shows us that every type of man, from every background all operate on the same principles of abuse. which are usually isolation and control. and it plays out differently depending on a number of factors

  • @MessiestJessie
    @MessiestJessie Год назад +87

    Hasan described exactly what Jonah Hill was trying to do while telling us what abuse is and then says Jonah is not being abusive. He expects to control her job, friends, social/professional activities, social media post ect. That is an attempt to be the dominant person in a controlling abusive relationship. I’m not sure what the argument is here? So because he was unsuccessful means he’s NOT being ultra controlling and abusive. I think that just means he found someone else to shame and manipulate and dictate their every move. Just my thoughts.

    • @benjaminjameskreger
      @benjaminjameskreger Год назад +13

      You don't need to backpedal with just my thoughts, your thoughts are valid and solid.

    • @MessiestJessie
      @MessiestJessie Год назад +3

      @@benjaminjameskreger thank you 🙏

    • @matttriano
      @matttriano Год назад +8

      He said it was abuse AND that a single text conversation cannot itself establish a pattern making him a serial abuser. That's what he said. I guess that's too subtle a distinction?

  • @LoxtXDoll
    @LoxtXDoll Год назад +67

    "I don't think it's abuse"
    "Its a well documented tactic abusers use"
    "Well now you're just speculating based on your own trauma"
    ?????

    • @catbeara
      @catbeara Год назад +4

      Because people are extrapolating based on a very small amount of information. If Jonah did this a lot it could be a pattern and therefore abuse. But we don't know enough about their relationship to know if he did it a lot! It was still a manipulative and shitty thing to say, but we don't know if it was abuse because we don't have enough information to see if it was a pattern.

    • @LoxtXDoll
      @LoxtXDoll Год назад +17

      @@catbeara most ppl aren't making stuff up about the situation though.
      Its literally just the girlfriend who posted it and said she was emotionally abused giving examples of texts and situations.
      And relationship physologists using it as a teaching moment to explain why his version of "boundaries" is incorrect and can be an abusive tactic.
      I mean if you don't want to believe the person claiming to be the victim
      Please let me know what reason he could give to make any of what he said ok to you.

    • @catbeara
      @catbeara Год назад +6

      @@LoxtXDoll went to see what she actually said, couldn't find it but a lot of articles mentioned that she herself had described it as emotional abuse so I believe her. I only saw other tweets and secondhand sources talking about him being abusive and so I thought they were the ones who were calling it abuse rather than his ex. That was my mistake.

    • @catbeara
      @catbeara Год назад +4

      @@LoxtXDoll I'm guessing Hasan made the same mistake idk.

    • @LoxtXDoll
      @LoxtXDoll Год назад +2

      @@catbeara Yeah, im sure you can see how frustrating it is to see him deny what the person actually involved said it was.
      I believe what Hasan meant to say was it was an abusive thing to do but it didnt mean he was abusive as his intention may not have been to be abusive.
      But seeking a girl 20 years your junior as a famous actor, and then telling her to not be around her friends, you cant surf with men as a surfing instructor, or wear bathing suits he saw as revealing (a one peice video of her surfing thats still on her instagram and is completely not sexual that he said she didnt respect him if she didnt delete it, all in those texts) post sponsored modeling photos that she was already doing before him as her job, basically seeking someone that is everything you dont want and then telling them to change everything to keep you. Is just objectively abusive.
      Its just not normal as a 40 year old to seek someone so much younger thats everything you dont want and try to change their entire life and cut off their friends with the reason being that you judged them all to be "unstable female friends".
      Screams mysogyny cause I don't even know what hes talking about there, besides women who are single since historically thats how men refered to women who werent married or were spinstresses.
      He could call any of her female friends unstable and tell her to cut them off since its so vague what he means by that.
      I just dont see how you can read all that even without her saying it was abuse and think its not abusive.

  • @psychicbyinternet
    @psychicbyinternet Год назад +63

    Since a lot of people including Hasan think it isn't abuse unless the guy is literally punching her. There is a thing called emotional abuse:
    Emotional abuse centers around control, manipulation, isolation, and demeaning or threatening behavior. Signs of abuse include:
    • Monitoring and controlling a person’s behavior, such as who they spend time with or how they spend money.
    • Threatening a person’s safety, property, or loved ones
    • Isolating a person from family, friends, and acquaintances
    • Demeaning, shaming, or humiliating a person
    • Extreme jealousy, accusations, and paranoia
    • Delivering constant criticism
    • Regular ridicule or teasing
    • Making acceptance or care conditional on a person’s choices
    • Refusing to allow a person to spend time alone
    • Thwarting a person’s professional or personal goals
    • Instilling self-doubt and worthlessness
    • Gaslighting: making a person question their competence and even their basic perceptual experiences.
    (Source: Psychology today)

    • @suckboytony
      @suckboytony Год назад +2

      emotional or any type of abuse later turns into someone leaving in a body bag

  • @psychicbyinternet
    @psychicbyinternet Год назад +14

    When Candace Owens and Destiny agree with you, you might just have a bad take.

  • @Dell-ol6hb
    @Dell-ol6hb Год назад +87

    This is so obviously abuse, kinda shocked Hasan is so dismissive of it like that as if other people are somehow crazy for saying this is abusive behavior, does he think abuse is only physical?

    • @Yessiree3
      @Yessiree3 Год назад +8

      Yes he misunderstood how broad of a term abuse can be because it’s such a loaded term.

    • @matttriano
      @matttriano Год назад +2

      He wasn't dismissive

    • @Thelearner08365
      @Thelearner08365 Год назад +1

      It ain’t abuse

    • @motelmicrowave
      @motelmicrowave Год назад +2

      It's boundaries, I wouldnt stand for certain stuff but also talk about it depending who it is otherwise leave if whatever they're demanding seems over the line

    • @felixd.4150
      @felixd.4150 Год назад +6

      Yeah Hasan is grasping at straws. He's misrepresenting the Twitter "expert" reactions by exaggerating the shit out of them. "It's like....... *sigh*..." isn't a good point. He's out of his element and showing his age a little here.

  • @dweeb55
    @dweeb55 Год назад +45

    i think this is a great example of how and why most men feel threatened when people out their abusers in the public sphere. because theyre worried about us calling abuse what it is. they’re thinking, “has something i’ve done/will something i do in the future be labeled as abuse?” for most men, asking themselves this question is threatening. so they get defensive and minimize the weight of their emotional immaturity and the dangerous and often violent behaviors that come with it.

    • @jjcoolboyify
      @jjcoolboyify Год назад +4

      No one feels threatened lol. She takes no accountability on any piss poor behavior that she may of had during the relationship. There tons of things we still do not know of the relationship so it’s very obtuse people are calling someone a narcissist with a couple text messages shown. That takes legit professionals to diagnose, not some armchair internet judge. Jonah mistakes boundaries for standards. We as men have a right to our standards just as women do as well. Women have no problems voicing their standards in a man but when Jonah and others do it it’s labeled abuse. That is some soft ass shit and quite frankly I and many other men and women are tired of people being soft as fuck. Brady is a grown ass woman, if she decided to abide by his standards and comes to realize that it was a mistake, then move on and learn from it. Not act like a little sissy victim thirsting for attention. So you’re damn straight if you’re going to be in a relationship with me there’s definitely gonna be some standards. I am glad more men are coming to their senses about this situation too and are not allowing the bitter bitch culture to interfere with masculinity. I am glad to see there are women that are calling out Brady for the bullshit she is on. She is no victim, she’s just mad that jonah moves on and had a child. Women cannot stand when men prove they don’t need them. That is exactly what is happening here. The bitter bitch culture pushed too far here and many people are waking up to the bullshit

    • @aquelarre7616
      @aquelarre7616 Год назад +20

      @@jjcoolboyify 😴

    • @peachulemon
      @peachulemon Год назад

      🙏🏽 men = bad current state of the internet

    • @User-jz8is
      @User-jz8is Год назад

      @@jjcoolboyifylol wtf. “Piss poor behaviour” wtf does that even mean. Is she a kid at school. Grow up what a weirdo. If taking a picture in a bathing suit when you’re a surfer is BAD BEHAVIOUR for him then I think we know the dynamic.

    • @dweeb55
      @dweeb55 11 месяцев назад

      @@jjcoolboyify “bitter bitch culture”? ur the one writing bitter paragraphs about random celebrities and women, maybe that can give you a clue as to why you cant find a lasting relationship with a woman. whining and complaining about how a woman chooses to present herself and displaying your insecurities for all to see is what i would consider “soft” bud. but you sound 14 anyway so i can already tell u dont know wtf ur talking abt lol

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee Год назад +151

    i rarely see hasan have takes on things ive studied for years that are off. hes on point. here with minimizing the action as not abuse, he is off. not only is manipulation a form of deliberate deceit but in this case it had to do with control which is one of the main markers of interpersonal relationship trauma. he also acts as if jonah was just going to stop there. where as if we look at the evidence, jonah would likely begin to try to control more parts of that womans life. we got a global femicide epidemic going on that has never stopped and meanwhile people dont see how these values that the men hold are linked to the hundreds that get killed by their partners every day

    • @Essaroni
      @Essaroni Год назад +38

      I’m honestly so shocked he’s so off base about this when I usually agree with him. Having seen family members go through emotional abuse that I never thought would fall into the cycle, I realized how easily some can get into it. The tone of those texts from Jonah were a bit too familiar

    • @jsidkfncjfdldld
      @jsidkfncjfdldld Год назад

      What a white women thing to say. You studied emotional abuse for years?? 😂😂

    • @darkday8913
      @darkday8913 Год назад +2

      ​@@Essaroni"I'm a victim", don't make this about you. Lol

    • @fluidthought42
      @fluidthought42 Год назад +3

      I'll believe it as abuse when we see evidence of him not stopping there. Not saying it isn't abuse, it's just that if it is abuse it requires more evidence than just one text of him laying out his weird boundaries.

    • @matttriano
      @matttriano Год назад +3

      He said it was abuse but that it wasn't enough to know that Jonah is Satan. For abuse victims who haven't gotten over that shit, I guess this sounds harsh. That's seriously no offense and I wish you the best but that's A YOU PROBLEM

  • @MegJuniper
    @MegJuniper Год назад +80

    Hasan if you’re debating if something is abusive, you can literally just google the definition/examples. You don’t know everything in the universe.

    • @clarencelamorena8032
      @clarencelamorena8032 Год назад +15

      That's what I was thinking the whole time just DEFINE ABUSE FIRST

    • @catbeara
      @catbeara Год назад +5

      He said it could be abusive if it was a pattern of behaviour but that we don't know if it was a pattern because we only know about a little snapshot of their relationship.

    • @00bones00
      @00bones00 Год назад

      @@catbeara hasan is not a psychologist , dont trust him on this shit seriously this was a weird take on his part . just do your own research ffs , i feel like the majority of hasan viewers use him as their only source when he is literally just a white dude with a camera . listen to actual professionals in the topic for the love of god , especially with sensitive stuff like this that already has so much disinformation and misinformation . just . do . research .

    • @leesnyder9144
      @leesnyder9144 Год назад

      its complicated

  • @circuitben
    @circuitben Год назад +8

    My ex did this a LOT - using the language of therapy in an attempt to get her own way - I wasn't working hard to provide, I was "emotionally depriving" her by not sitting in silence watching endless movies, my friends weren't essential for my well-being, they were "toxic influences," I didn't despise conspicious capitalism, I was "unwilling to invest in myself" by wearing the same thing twice. LA has a LOT of trash therapists

  • @Brian-wx4ig
    @Brian-wx4ig Год назад +49

    He was right about one thing, he’s not the one for her

  • @Saibellus
    @Saibellus Год назад +107

    hasan is a bit of a himbo and its kinda showing here. when you care about someone, and esp as a woman socialized to prioritize other peoples feelings and be nice at all costs, it isn't easy to give a firm no to their emotional manipulation. esp since jonah DID use a lot of therapy talk, which on top of his vague gaslighting, makes it even harder not to doubt yourself. "just leave" and "its just pathetic, not abusive" are the takes of a reasonably attractive man who likely finds it a lot easier to look at another man he has no personal feelings toward and dismiss him. abusers ARE often pathetic, but that doesnt make them any less difficult to leave for the person who loves them. if anything, those are the people who will be much sneakier about their manipulation because they dont feel confident in abusing openly.

    • @directorx3575
      @directorx3575 Год назад +4

      How is it abuse when Jonah is trying to break up with her? So he can’t break up with her for his own reason without it being abusive? Hasan and his supporters are so damn weird. Oh wait can I call you all weird or is that emotional abuse? 😂

    • @PinkCatsy
      @PinkCatsy Год назад +15

      The funny thing is like his reasoning for it not being abusive is wild - Jonah just seems like a pathetic loser? What kind of person do you think does abuse? Abusive people are rarely abusive because they want to be evil and hurt people; it often comes from a place of insecurity.

    • @shrkattck88
      @shrkattck88 Год назад +23

      ⁠@@directorx3575because he isn’t trying to break up with her. He is trying to get her to do what he wants. The person you are responding to laid it out very well, and you chose to not comprehend any of what they said so you could make a lame attempt at putting others down to try to be funny.

    • @scotts4298
      @scotts4298 Год назад +14

      @@directorx3575 You don't "try" to break up with someone, you just do it. Putting the decision on them like this is absolutely manipulative. There are those who are so insecure or lonely that they will change their lives for an emotional abuser. Imagine if she stopped doing her job that she loved because of this! No surfing with men, modeling, or posting pictures online? Insane. She was clearly not that insecure or lonely (thank goodness) but someone else might have been.

    • @brianfarley2723
      @brianfarley2723 Год назад

      @@directorx3575 braindead

  • @sleepy-peepy
    @sleepy-peepy Год назад +23

    from hasan’s reaction it really seems like maybe he was the “you can’t wear that” guy at one point and now regrets it.

  • @carolinea6769
    @carolinea6769 Год назад +59

    Honestly disappointing to see Hasan being so dismissive here. Add on top of that the braggadocious attitude toward the chatter saying things like his girlfriend/mom/any woman in his life would kill to sleep with him, idc if it's supposed to be a joke, it just came across as unironically misogynistic in light of the rest of this. What Hasan fails to understand is that incidents like this open up conversations about abuse more broadly, thus why so many people began their statements with "men like Jonah Hill." Of course none of us can really know what goes on behind closed doors in celebrities' relationships, and none of us can know what was truly in Jonah's heart of hearts. But that's not the point, and to hyper focus on Jonah Hill specifically like Hasan is doing is to willfully misunderstand, or even stifle, the conversation. Also, I don't think he realizes that men can act in ways that seek to take women down a peg even if they don't actively intend or realize that that's what they're doing. People explicitly saying the premises that may subconsciously underpin this type of behavior and pointing out patterns of abuse isn't "reaching," unfortunately this stuff is way too common. But, nah, Hasan has to make this into a reductive "it's not that deep" moment :/

    • @littlemissmello
      @littlemissmello Год назад +17

      Couldn't agree more. I like Hassan but I did not like him here. Good people can have bad takes.

    • @littlemissmello
      @littlemissmello Год назад +11

      @@startalizing nah, I agree. I'm not here to diagnose Hasan lol but it feels so obvious that he has some shit that he's still working through. Is only normal, we're all just human, but did end up in a rather questionable take from him

    • @ayooobro
      @ayooobro Год назад

      but it honestly was not that deep. we saw no physical abuse, no coercive control or crazy manipulation.
      it was just jonah hill being an insecure fucking loser with ridiculous notions of what a woman is. he reveals this ridiculous pathetic attitude and they break up.
      from the shit that he did i would not be surprised if more shit was pulled up showing he was actually emotionally abusing her, but as it is this is not emotional abuse. it’s just a loser unrealistically trying to get his way and getting dumped for it????

    • @ashleya3731
      @ashleya3731 Год назад

      For real like it escelates to these points he didnt start off controlling her this much

    • @CDexie
      @CDexie Год назад

      People are actively calling Jonah Hill an abuser and they will leave hearing these news continuing to call him an abuser.

  • @EliWasTaken
    @EliWasTaken Год назад +143

    Lemme guess, Hasan gets stunlocked arguing with insane chatters?

    • @HasanReactionsfanTwo
      @HasanReactionsfanTwo  Год назад +91

      Only Hasan can spend an hour watching a 10 minute video :)

    • @andrewsuplicki1236
      @andrewsuplicki1236 Год назад +3

      ​@@HasanReactionsfanTwo Asmongold might have something to say about that lol

    • @dernddy
      @dernddy Год назад +4

      at least he has people to actually talk to in person about it

  • @katiefulton9606
    @katiefulton9606 Год назад +366

    It’s weird that because Hasan sees Jonah as pathetic, he’s unwilling to see how abusive those texts are. This was really frustrating to watch. He wasn’t defending Jonah, but he was minimizing the hell out of his unhinged, abusive ultimatums and then wasn’t charitable at all to people trying to explain why his take is kinda gross. Like immediate defensiveness and then minimizes it more. Thank god the Aussies kept reminding him that the abuse take could very well be right. And here he is saying “just leave.” He said classic victim blaming phrases throughout the video. “Why now? I find it odd” “this is only a bit of the relationship, I need more details” 🙄 I try to be charitable but yikes

    • @alohatigers1199
      @alohatigers1199 Год назад +16

      Is he wrong though? Why choose to prolong the abuse? Just leave.
      Does he have something to blackmail if she leaves?

    • @DanRec1312
      @DanRec1312 Год назад +105

      @@alohatigers1199L take

    • @Drkdoc
      @Drkdoc Год назад +78

      You’re right. Hasan was cringe here.

    • @blehbleh9283
      @blehbleh9283 Год назад +96

      "just leave" is very hard for abuse survivors to do. Easier said than done

    • @dangerxbadger2300
      @dangerxbadger2300 Год назад +61

      Yeah it was REALLY frustrating to see him acting like these experts were pulling these assumptions or speculations out of nowhere. Like, we aren't talking about a dude who yelled at his girlfriend in public a single time. We are talking about a man who used his newly therapy lingo and recent status as therapy expert bc of the documentary as a weapon against his significant other to make her feel guilty for having a career that made him feel insecure, and only once they were together(which is also a huge indicator bc it didnt bother him before, yet now that she is "his", it does bc thats how he views her).That's not normal guy doing something abusive one or two times, that is the attitude of someone who is more than likely a chronic manipulative abuser. If it looks like a duck, you know?

  • @hamilcross
    @hamilcross Год назад +358

    "I don't think it's abuse, but it's manipulative" and controlling... and coercive... and demeaning... lmao it's really not that hard to see that this is emotionally abusive

    • @jbone877
      @jbone877 Год назад +26

      Fr. Definitely abuse

    • @Essaroni
      @Essaroni Год назад +63

      This was frustrating to watch. Some serious victim blaming. Sucks to see it from Hasan

    • @Essaroni
      @Essaroni Год назад +27

      Just to add, as someone who’s seen family members go through emotional abuse, both of whom were male actually, this really hurt to hear. They’re incredibly successful people and fell into that cycle. It’s not about the abused person’s personality, or being a “cuck” or “pathetic”.

    • @jon-cx7jq
      @jon-cx7jq Год назад +6

      ​@@Essaroniwhat was the victim blaming?

    • @bobdylan1015
      @bobdylan1015 Год назад +31

      @@shoshanasachi9416Hasan does this a lot. I’ve been watching him for awhile he has a real tendency to disregard any opinion that isn’t his and usually time outs/bans chatters for simply disagreeing with him on a topic. He almost got rid of one of the chatters in the video but his buddies stopped him lol.

  • @sharinganrose
    @sharinganrose Год назад +78

    40:00 yeahhh there's your usual Twitter armchairs, but seeing my friends and other women on my TL recalling this horrible behavior by exes shows how pervasive this kind of behavior is and an unfortunate reminder to myself to look out for this when I'm dating men. I'm glad the Aussies pushed back a little.

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee Год назад +107

    im in the field partially of domestic violence. and in the studies there are people for years, abusers who have co opted therapy language to manipulate families and the court system. i knew it would increase since social media and media in general are talking more about mental health. as text book as abusers are they do evolve and pick up new tools. like traffickers who use social media etc

    • @megamandrn001
      @megamandrn001 Год назад

      Patton Oswalt has a bit about how you have to listen to the heart of what people say because evil motherfuckers love to pick up language that legitimizes them.

  • @mischr13
    @mischr13 Год назад +20

    Does Hasan see himself in Jonah Hill? what's going on lmao

  • @bkk1996
    @bkk1996 Год назад +45

    Well damn. Seems like Paris scrambled his brain a bit more. I've definitely heard him on this issue before and he had much more understanding and insight into the difficulty of safely leaving a controlling and ab@sive relationships. This was a big yikes.

  • @shrkattck88
    @shrkattck88 Год назад +144

    My views typically align with Hasan, and I like watching his content a lot! But in this video... it's a no. Calling this sad and pathetic but "not abuse" is not something that makes a lot of sense to me. When you have repeated behavior like this over time directed at you, it's isolating and makes you question what is even normal. Not to mention the power dynamic that exists *not only* because he is an actor, but also a guy.
    Bonus bad points for the little aside he went on about how everyone wants to fuck him. Chatter was gross but, in a rare L, Hasan made it grosser :/

    • @sharinganrose
      @sharinganrose Год назад +47

      Right?! When people think of abuse, they want a Lifetime movie level of physical abuse. Yeah, he might have not touched her, but this it is still abuse and manipulative behavior :/

    • @MitchellJohnsonLoves
      @MitchellJohnsonLoves Год назад +33

      Honestly it’s hard to watch any of Hasan’s content on abusive relationships, the amber heard v Johnny depp trial was unwatchableeeee

    • @katiefulton9606
      @katiefulton9606 Год назад +45

      He kept saying “I find it odd she’s coming out with it now and not when they broke up” “why now?” Kept minimizing everything and then when there’s a thread trying to break down why giving the ultimatums of stop doing your job and hanging out with your friends IS abuse, he makes fun of it, doesn’t listen, minimizes and then bans anyone who is trying to let him know why his takes were gross.

    • @alohatigers1199
      @alohatigers1199 Год назад +4

      @@katiefulton9606
      But is he wrong? Why prolong the abuse when if you feel like this is wrong, then BREAK UP!!! WHATS THE PROBLEM?

    • @mothmanatee2326
      @mothmanatee2326 Год назад +27

      @@alohatigers1199 i mean, depending on how long the relationship has been going on you can presume that she developed feelings for him for other reasons, and doesn't want to lose that companionship or emotional support. and if you begin a relationship like this with low self-esteem to begin with, it can be difficult to recognize when you're being treated unfairly, especially when manipulative language is being used to make the other person sound reasonable.

  • @wildolive3630
    @wildolive3630 Год назад +6

    " If you have to give up who you are as an individual to be half of a couple, the price is too high." Dr. Phil

    • @psychicbyinternet
      @psychicbyinternet Год назад +3

      Rare Dr. Phil W

    • @LatryLeland
      @LatryLeland Год назад

      ​@@psychicbyinternetdon't forget Dr Phil constantly complaining about how nobody in this country wants to work anymore everyone is lazy etc etc Rogan type shit. Dr phil is a dumbass. But a w still

  • @amrg01
    @amrg01 Год назад +55

    i get that hasan has been “fat shaming” as a joke for years, but its really frustrating to hear, not only fat ppl are insecure like this, gym bros can also behave this way

    • @littlemissmello
      @littlemissmello Год назад +36

      100%. One of my least favourite sides about Hasan. Being fat is not a moral failing and sometimes when he talks about it, even when he's joking, I can hear his own issues. Wasn't Hassan fat as a kid? I don't think he's being malicious or anything, but I do think he has some unhealthy antagonistic tendencies around fatness. Or maybe I am making it up, but I just have a feeling, I don't mean to psycho analyse.
      In the end, Hassan is only human and like all humans, limited by our experiences. Sometimes he has dumb straight himbo takes. I see what he's trying to say but he's coming from a bad angle and ends up with a short sighted take.

    • @justingarza2399
      @justingarza2399 Год назад +3

      Worded perfectly. I'm glad other people recognize it. It's literally like the only thing about him that I'm really not a fan of. It's a shame since you think he'd be more empathetic considering he was also fat and dealt with the struggles that came with that. But yeah, it's a bit disappointing.

    • @doozsromhacks
      @doozsromhacks 4 месяца назад

      yea nah dude was just fat as a teen/kid and has internalized fat phobia, that's literally it. he was also bullied a lot. a lot of fatphobic people were "i used to be fat" people so@@littlemissmello

  • @th1nkcr1tical29
    @th1nkcr1tical29 Год назад +11

    It's abuse just to have to listen to Jonah Hill's voice I think.

  • @sabsm2404
    @sabsm2404 Год назад +7

    people really underestimate emotional abuse and how isolated and frightened it will make you feel...

  • @cmegan06
    @cmegan06 Год назад +22

    I think hasan doesn't get that chat isn't saying he said what Jonah hill did was okay, they're upset at how he's denying what many others (mainly women) are saying about the pattern it goes into. That even if he's not got a whole plan to strip away her friends and work life and everything, that it's probably headed there, and insecurity is a major reason people become abusive. It is not usually an intentional act on the abusers part. They probably do not realize they're being abusive. It's a slow progression stemming from insecurity, and the fact that hasan uses insecurity as a reasoning that he probably isn't in an abusive pattern is very frustrating.

  • @lasilla4046
    @lasilla4046 Год назад +199

    I'm glad the Aussies were there to give other perspective sometimes watching Hasan you can feel hostility towards other opinions that don't align with his views on a subject even if they are made with good intent
    Some people think it's abuse some don't there's no need to get all mad about it when chatters point it out

    • @Eyelidyoinker
      @Eyelidyoinker Год назад +66

      Aussies make Hasan content better overall fs

    • @directorx3575
      @directorx3575 Год назад

      The “Aussies” literally agree with Hasan every time. How dumb are you Hasan supporters?

    • @t-vann48
      @t-vann48 Год назад +21

      I dont think that's necessarily true. He definitely gets super mad at chat sometimes, but chat arent just like politely disagreeing with him. A lot of people outright said he was like defending Jonah Hill. Which is just weird and untrue. That's not a difference of opinion, that's making shit up about Hasan's opinion.

    • @fives.
      @fives. Год назад +1

      You're right, but accepting the balance of Hasan's proclivity for opinion with his rampant-ass operational defiance makes enjoying his content a lot easier tbh

    • @demolazer
      @demolazer Год назад +7

      I'm blown away people think this constitutes abuse. Not even close. I speak from experience.

  • @NayaYates
    @NayaYates Год назад +8

    It’s abusive behavior hasan

  • @Buttered_Paranoia
    @Buttered_Paranoia Год назад +13

    L Hasan takes, don't try to add caveats, just admit he was wrong and that's it

  • @holybalognajabronies2013
    @holybalognajabronies2013 Год назад +15

    Can call it out as abusive without seeing it as the most dangerous or violent kind of abuse out there
    But yea, it would help for Hasan to listen to more female voices on why this kind of misogynistic gaslighting is abusive, bc we ALL have internalized misogyny in us bc of growing up and living under patriarchal and sexist systems, and there's no reason a "pathetic little man" who weaponized both therapyspeak as well as his image of being a nice guy wouldn't thusly also be liable to be called an emotionally abusive guy who has a lot of maturing to do. Incels and "nice guys" can absolutely trade in being emotionally abusive too -- Doesn't mean they need to be taken to court or wear a scarlet A on their chest the way an R. Kelly or Jeff Epstein would need to, but just because it's common behavior doesn't negate that you're of behavior being another example of why patriarchy and toxic masculinity is mentally emotionally and spiritually damaging to women, even if it never progresses to a lvl of being physically or sexually abusive, too.
    Honestly, it's like the term racist or TERF: You can be racist or transphobic without being someone who's fully ready to join the Klan, bc again, we all internalize a LOT of bigoted sentiments when we live and are raised in countries that are founded on genocide, slavery, imperialism, capitalism, militarism and cisheteronormativity, and that all takes a LOT of unlearning; and sometimes, JUST when you think you're at the "right" lvl of being a "good person," you might actually bea position where you're still practicing and reinforcing bigotry while simply evolving your language on how you explain it away or reify and normalize it's new positioning in your life or the world for the times we're living in.

  • @sorchayoung8867
    @sorchayoung8867 Год назад +5

    really good input from alex n aleksa here.

  • @quennygreen
    @quennygreen Год назад +13

    He was always the fat dude, got made fun of for it, lost weight, looks better, but he still has the fat guy mentality and the bullying is probably deep rooted and he’s very insecure.
    Doesn’t excuse what he’s doing but that’s just an observation I’m making.

    • @scotts4298
      @scotts4298 Год назад

      No way... There are PLENTY of skinny people who are just as manipulative 🤣

  • @user-zm9ox3de3l
    @user-zm9ox3de3l Год назад +6

    Damn you guys are just realizing Hasan has misogynistic takes?

  • @obeseninja93
    @obeseninja93 Год назад +5

    As a former fat, he has fat insecurity still

  • @t_ylr
    @t_ylr Год назад +32

    Honestly this is why ppl need to commit to at least a year of therapy before they're allowed to use therapy lingo with other ppl.

    • @Delicious_Oreoz
      @Delicious_Oreoz Год назад +8

      Hell a year of therapy before any kind of dating or relationship would probably solve most of this. If we had Sex Ed and proper Boundaries and Consent in school being taught it wouldnt be necessary but oh well.

  • @jacksonmasco
    @jacksonmasco Год назад

    I only just now heard the “that’s it, I’m sayin it” in the intro LMAO

  • @chiedzawith2ds
    @chiedzawith2ds Год назад +8

    He made her remove perfectly normal content from her instagram. How is that not abuse?

    • @ayooobro
      @ayooobro Год назад +1

      Asking someone to take down something they posted is not inherently abuse 💀

  • @lordbauer5983
    @lordbauer5983 Год назад +8

    If Jonah was engaging in abusive behavior, I don’t think it’s a stretch to call him an abuser.
    Abuse comes in many different forms, but people always default to “wife beater” when it comes to this stuff.

  • @Big_Dip1
    @Big_Dip1 Год назад +13

    It's really weird and indicative of worse behavior - if you need this much from a partner then you need to not be in a relationship and go to therapy for a while and figure out how to not let your insecurities negatively affect others. Nobody is indebted to read your mind 24/7.

  • @marzero116
    @marzero116 Год назад +21

    What kind of psycho makes a list of boundaries requirements for a relationship.

    • @Brian-wx4ig
      @Brian-wx4ig Год назад +1

      My only boundary is don’t be an asshole

    • @olblue3478
      @olblue3478 Год назад +6

      Everyone
      Eg: dont sleep with other people (thats a boundary

    • @VeteranVandal
      @VeteranVandal Год назад

      You do mate. The problem isn't the list. It's what is in the list or what it excludes.

  • @wanderinggstars
    @wanderinggstars Год назад +6

    if anyone's wondering why abuse victims wait to say it publicly, it can take on average months or years to realize youve experienced abuse or trauma

  • @eriksteverman
    @eriksteverman Год назад +2

    nobody addresses what Jonah SHOULD have done though??? if these behaviors make him feel insecure, how could he go about communicating that in an appropriate manor?

  • @tyscam
    @tyscam Год назад +7

    His therapist seems kinda alright on Netflix. Jonah is untreatable likely.

    • @wisdomcoffee
      @wisdomcoffee Год назад +1

      My friend had just recommended that movie but after all this Jonah hill stuff, I’m wondering how good the therapist actually is?

  • @blehbleh9283
    @blehbleh9283 Год назад +155

    L take Hasan. It is emotional abuse and it's hard to leave an abusive relationship when you're in love

    • @Soonami6005
      @Soonami6005 Год назад +3

      He got cheated on by valkyrae recently so i think thts why hes so cagey

    • @acreativename2781
      @acreativename2781 Год назад +12

      @@Soonami6005 Wtf are you talking about

    • @sebastiaanv
      @sebastiaanv Год назад +7

      @@Soonami6005making things up

    • @Soonami6005
      @Soonami6005 Год назад +2

      @@acreativename2781 its true u didnt see? I feel bad for hasan man

    • @Soonami6005
      @Soonami6005 Год назад +2

      @@sebastiaanv its true i jus feel bad for hasan, tough luck

  • @andreaarnott8194
    @andreaarnott8194 Год назад +10

    Idk, man, is my ex only abusive because I ‘let’ him do it and I should have ‘just broken up with him’?

  • @treekritter7522
    @treekritter7522 Год назад +23

    I think the issue Hasan is having here is with labelling. People are usually always nuanced and not always all bad or all good.
    But that doesn't mean you can't be a nuanced person who is still engaging in abusive behaviour. Even if the cause is just insecurity and not malicious intent.
    But the nice thing about that is you can acknowledge it and probably work on changing those behaviours and your perceptions of yourself.
    But due to the damage these kinds of behavious have on people, its better to just call it out for what it is 🤷‍♀️

    • @queenofsprinkles
      @queenofsprinkles Год назад +6

      Correct. Abuser does not mean irredeemable monster who can't change, improve, and do better. Minimizing the behavior and refusing to call it what it is makes that change less likely to happen.

    • @CDexie
      @CDexie Год назад

      @@queenofsprinkles Abuser does mean irredeemable monster for the chronically online crowd he's mostly interacting with, that's why he's being very hesitant to call him an abuser, while still admitting that this behavior is abuse. He's pushing back against the online tendency of "no quarter", by saying that a text doesn't constitute an open-and-shut case of abuse.

  • @Atticus_Loves_Lacquer
    @Atticus_Loves_Lacquer Год назад +43

    It’s abusive.

  • @Delicious_Oreoz
    @Delicious_Oreoz Год назад +9

    There are alot of guys that are insecure about what their gf or wife does. The "crazy" thing is if they just idk talked to their significant other honestly and said how it makes them feel they could solve most of their problems before it gets to anything like this idk maybe im wrong though. Instead they make demands before even sitting down and talking about it. Like just sit down and talk to the person whos supposed to be your best friend.

    • @ihaveadegreeinmemes6377
      @ihaveadegreeinmemes6377 Год назад +3

      Facts. If you're able to phrase your honest differentiated feelings properly these types of issues can be solved even without a therapist

  • @katiefulton9606
    @katiefulton9606 Год назад +34

    Yikes bad Hasan takes. V frustrating

    • @ClaudiaWowPaw
      @ClaudiaWowPaw Год назад +5

      When he comments on stuff like this there needs to be at least one woman in the room. Cause goddamn. How is being manipulative and isolating your girlfriend from her friends not abusive ????

    • @isthisthekrustykrab8646
      @isthisthekrustykrab8646 Год назад +3

      @@ClaudiaWowPaw I'm not a particularly close follower of him, but it certainly seems to be true that he could use a lot more sympathy to the position of women. The only other especially yikes moment I've seen him have apart from this was when he literally shushed a woman in his chat and said "quiet time, shhh, shhh." when she'd challenged him on something totally fair.
      It's not even so much the take as his reaction to criticism that's worse. It's not great to think this doesn't warrant the term "abusive behaviour", but I think it's worse to just call anyone who challenges you on that a schizophrenic freak hallucinating things you didn't say. Pretty cringe

    • @katiefulton9606
      @katiefulton9606 Год назад +1

      @@isthisthekrustykrab8646 yes I’ve never felt the need to comment my frustrations before when I’ve disagreed with his view, but this was sooo frustrating to watch. Totally unwilling to even think about an opposing, helpful point of view. He usually gets mad if criticism doesn’t have additional context or information for him to consider, but he literally went unhinged and banned/made fun of anyone trying to give additional context as to why his texts were emotionally abusive. Minimized clear textbook tactics of control and emotional abuse and it was honestly disgusting to see her traumatic experience invalidating because he found it pathetic, not abusive… I agree it was his reaction to criticism that was like watching him dig his heels in further.

  • @user-qk5yw5gy7f
    @user-qk5yw5gy7f 4 месяца назад +1

    3:19 perfectly succinct example of intersectionality and why it matters.

  • @bluespacecadet
    @bluespacecadet Год назад +22

    I'm surprised that someone who "fights for women's rights" would have such an ass take. He's minimizing abuse of women and it sucks. He's really up his own ass in this

    • @olblue3478
      @olblue3478 Год назад

      If you don't leave you're abusing yourself

    • @psychicbyinternet
      @psychicbyinternet Год назад +4

      @@olblue3478 Do you not hear yourself? That's obvious victim blaming.

  • @aquelarre7616
    @aquelarre7616 Год назад +19

    saying that a person trying to control their partner is not abusive is insane.

  • @zippydeedoda
    @zippydeedoda Год назад +2

    kinda feels like Hassan read (or maybe even just heard the title) “Conflict Is Not Abuse” and ignored its nuances entirely. when countless experts are saying that abusive relationships follow patterns in almost every instance, and those patterns are present given the little glimpse we got into jonah hills relationship, it just feels like he doesn’t want to be wrong. really disappointed and i hope he reads up some more on abuse cycles and the complexity of what constitutes abuse

  • @babyyodachelsea7034
    @babyyodachelsea7034 Год назад +3

    I keep saying the behavior is abusive behavior, but I don’t know enough to call him an abuser ….

  • @suckboytony
    @suckboytony Год назад +1

    ladies and gentlemen, if your significant other dictates your social media/life, leave them. they dont trust you and are probably doing some heinous shit and is paranoid that you are doing it too

  • @fredfuckstone914
    @fredfuckstone914 Год назад +1

    I hope he decides to adopt these Australians, the one with the beard was clearly abused by a wallaby. Sad stuff down there in Ausland

  • @marcr94
    @marcr94 Год назад +1

    Crazy how Jonah Hill's ex is also Jackson Hinkle's ex

  • @HobzVHS
    @HobzVHS Год назад +2

    The reason I believe there’s been so much split reactions and thoughts on this particular relationship case is the ambiguity of what these messages entail in terms of perceiving the entire relationship for any particular person. There are many clear red flags and notable “behaviors”, the issue is a message really gives literally a micro fraction of clear evidence Into an entire long relationship. While Hills texts are clear examples of manipulation, control and many other troublesome terms, those are all behaviors that signify a possible abusive relationship. It really would come down to the habitual nature of the behaviors if it was happening over the course of the entire relationship or started right at the end with trouble started and when they were separating. There’s a lot of missing info to know and diagnosis the situation. I think the Johnny Depp case is the best example of how much info you get just from the court case, that paints the entire relationship, that you can’t just pick a side off of little evidence, that relationships are complicated.
    I think it’s fine to call it abusive behavior, because it’s a good way of characterizing of emotional manipulation and hardships that people go through in relationships, but repeated behavior is what makes someone an an abuser. For personal reasons I find it very important we make a distinction between disgusting abusers and crappy people.
    Of course most people actually seem to be split on online about Jonah actually being in the right about setting “boundaries”, but anyone with any healthy emotional intelligence will understand he’s not setting boundaries, he’s being controlling by setting restriction for her. I would say it doesn’t look good for him, but it’s not my business so I’m not going to make any harsh judgements.

    • @CDexie
      @CDexie Год назад +1

      This is a very sober take on the situation, one I agree with. But I think it's not easy to make a distinction between disgusting abusers and crappy people, otherwise this problem would've been solved already. Jealousy is often a sign of a crappy person, but in online spaces people are speedrunning to call it abuse and the person engaging in jealousy an abuser, and not just in Jonah Hill's case. I'm not gonna say that it "dilutes the definition" or anything like that, because I simply don't believe it, but I will say it's ridiculous. If your friend has boyfriend problems, in real life, with him being very jealous, she's NEVER going to listen to you if you come out swinging with the abuser stuff.

    • @HobzVHS
      @HobzVHS Год назад +1

      @@CDexie Very well said. People indeed like to speed run to calling it abuse, when there are in fact professionals who’s job it is do determine the difference between actual abusers and crappy people in poorly communicated relationships. It’s never not wrong to thing “this could be an abuse situation” because with the world we live in now, nearly everyone has been affected by abuse either directly or by someone they love or know personally.
      In any case if the allegations are serious, I believe they need to be looked at investigated seriously and professionally, but I know reading the interne, “taking things serious” can not exits or have hold a different notion 🤡/🗡️/😴

  • @suckboytony
    @suckboytony Год назад

    lmao wasnt he the same one saying dont talk about my weight gain/loss yet is talking about is significant other’s body

  • @7MrSweet7
    @7MrSweet7 Год назад

    Great Vid.

  • @eleventhecccreator
    @eleventhecccreator 10 месяцев назад

    i hate how i hear I did a thing and immediately think 'Australian Jordan'

  • @Burnholes
    @Burnholes Год назад +2

    Hasan is showing his Cenk side in this one. He'll figure it out - MostlyPremium in chat

  • @jacktucker3326
    @jacktucker3326 Год назад +6

    hasans tales weren’t exactly bad, he just wasn’t wording them right. made it sound like he was spitting some bad takes

    • @Essaroni
      @Essaroni Год назад +6

      I mean calling her a cuck and pathetic was seriously uncalled for. His tone was way off and borderline cruel

    • @Froggeh92
      @Froggeh92 Год назад +7

      @@Essaroni he called Jonah those things.

    • @matttriano
      @matttriano Год назад

      @@Essaroniwhy would you think he's talking about her? The fuck

    • @Essaroni
      @Essaroni Год назад +1

      @@Froggeh92 ah my bad, I went back to the time stamps (5:00) and I think I misheard him say “she” instead of “he’s also a bit of a cuck.” I still believe his tone was off and dismissive.

  • @wuzziecrunch5382
    @wuzziecrunch5382 4 месяца назад +1

    One minute Hasan will talk about how every man can be a seven if they lose weight and figure out what hair and beard work for their face- the next he’s saying Jonah Hill looked better before he lost weight😢

  • @graceannwelsh
    @graceannwelsh Год назад +2

    yessss hasan serve us L take after L take!!! give us nothing!!!!

  • @dweeb55
    @dweeb55 Год назад +6

    when your whole personality and relationship turns into manipulation, that is abuse. period. doesn’t matter if you think the dude is a beta male, or pathetic, or whatever label you put on him to seem less threatening, or not. it’s all abuse. This was rly weird of Hasan.

  • @seanedwards94
    @seanedwards94 Год назад

    It's always a 13 month subscriber coming through with the comment in chat

  • @bongshark420
    @bongshark420 Год назад +2

    why am i always catching strays. why cant i be bald fat and never married with a child :(

    • @ninalimonn9494
      @ninalimonn9494 Год назад +1

      Haven't watched the whole video yet. My guess is Hasan was fat shaming again.
      If that's the case sorry bud :( virtual hugs, there's nothing wrong with you

  • @wildchild3176
    @wildchild3176 Год назад +1

    You dont have to say Jonah is an abuser to acknowledge that what he said was unacceptable and abuse behavior. No need to specilate on whether it was a pattern of behavior. Its important to call out abusive behavior so that people especially young people can recognize unacceptable behaviors even in isolation as red flags the need to be acknowledged and not dismissed. I think its reductive to focus so much on wether he is abusive all the the time.

  • @ellie3910
    @ellie3910 Год назад

    Some of those researchers were doing a little too much lol, but dang, Hasan was batting .000 this one

  • @killercomedytv
    @killercomedytv Год назад +1

    This is so dumb, lemme get ALL the conversations before I make a decision and both sides of the story. The amount of people taking sides without the full picture is the reason why I stay off twitter. We don't even know the full Context of their conversation and none of us were there with them to confirm anything. I'm going to wait for more information to come out before I start dragging people through the mud and labeling them like a pissed off teenager.

  • @moody7470
    @moody7470 Год назад +1

    I want someone to talk about how this woman is Jackson Hinkle’s ex. I bet that was much more interesting.

  • @yilz123
    @yilz123 Год назад +2

    Omg crushing on Alex so hard

  • @koloblican11763
    @koloblican11763 Год назад +2

    I am just curious, cause these sorts of "boundaries" or rather demands, seem pretty normal for high profile celebrities and politicians. While I personally would not give a fuck if my lady was walking around naked in front of a bunch of men, a person in Hollywood or on Capital Hill doesn't usually like that sort of attention. It makes it harder to get roles and to appeal to their base. It seems like one of those give and take situations. "I am a multimillionaire movie star, I will provide you with everything you need forever, please don't surf with dudes."
    That all having been said, I think this PARTICULAR situation is pretty lame. I mean it is her livelihood and her passion. Seems like they simply are not a good match for each other, and her being hot af and him being rich af probably lead both of them to holding on to the relationship longer then it should have, leading to these sorts of discussions. It's like how "staying together for the kids" ends up just making the parents and kids more miserable. You think giving in to demands, or making demands is worth it because of the quality of the relationship is worth those concessions, when really the relationship has already degraded beyond saving, and people are barely self aware enough as it is, let alone to realize they are falling for sunken cost.

  • @llamaczech
    @llamaczech 10 месяцев назад

    "It is abuse, just because it isn't chronic-"
    Isn't one of the defining traits of abuse it being a chronic cycle?

  • @glonbon8481
    @glonbon8481 Год назад +1

    kanye goin back afta this

  • @JaikoDiaz117
    @JaikoDiaz117 Год назад

    Did hasan change his settings so there is a MASSIVE ECHO on the videos he watches?? 🤣

  • @nemanjaugljesic8911
    @nemanjaugljesic8911 Год назад +1

    Leftist: hes a mysoginist Conservatives: he was just setting boundaries me: why is this important?!

    • @LatryLeland
      @LatryLeland Год назад

      Cuz he don't really give a damn ab politics

  • @yoda5436
    @yoda5436 Год назад

    i love when hasan has to remind his audience that he is in fact hot, cuz everytime it happens everyone's just like "yeh checks out"

  • @goosiesmoosies
    @goosiesmoosies Год назад +1

    I know what Hasan is trying to say, I think sometimes he doesn't understand when he pushes back a lot it reads like being dismissive, and it's giving people mixed messages.

  • @awakenedgraphics4023
    @awakenedgraphics4023 Год назад

    I’m honestly surprised he’s like that in private. I guess he’s probably still insecure from when he was younger, but damn.

  • @shoulderBirb
    @shoulderBirb Год назад +16

    hasan is really showing his blindspot for abuse. so many people can see the writing on the wall and he walks in "omg this writing on the wall is so stupid and cringe" i think there's a reason hasan isnt in a long term relationship. oops, there i go speculating... so cringe

    • @BlakeGeometrio
      @BlakeGeometrio Год назад +7

      I agree 100% and his strange rant about having so much sex is just... Whew... Really makes you think about him.

    • @shoulderBirb
      @shoulderBirb Год назад +5

      @@BlakeGeometrio i mean it just reinforces that hasan has great political takes, but he lacks in other areas. since he is human, he will talk about whatever he wants and when he is wrong, he will be rightly criticized. i dont go to hasan to hear his takes on relationships

    • @suckboytony
      @suckboytony Год назад

      @@BlakeGeometrioanyone who brags about having sex is not having sex at all.

    • @suckboytony
      @suckboytony Год назад

      @@shoulderBirbsame

  • @foreverwynter
    @foreverwynter Год назад +2

    there is so much more context sarah has added to this conversation. i would really appreciate a deeper look into all of the things she has put out there, because yes, the instagram pictures is one aspect of the situation, but there is so much more to this.

    • @forzer456
      @forzer456 Год назад

      Yup so much has been taken out of context, she has posted way more and it dose not paint her in a good light. In the end this is a private conversation between two people and we don’t know the full picture. From what I gather he wanted to settle down quickly and have a kid, I guess he is at that age and she was bitter he moved on quite quickly. Plus he got his kid in the end.

  • @predaderpgaming1042
    @predaderpgaming1042 Год назад

    Super bad wasn’t a documentary!?!

  • @psychicbyinternet
    @psychicbyinternet Год назад +5

    Yeah as other people are saying she wasn't at gunpoint so obviously it's not abusive. I have a really healthy relationship with my partner and I always wear a burka, never eat over 1100 calories, do not talk to any other men even family members and I don't work, I just cook and clean for him. I don't have any friends and don't talk to my family - he is my world. He regularly insults me and makes fun of me but I have the choice to leave so this is my choice. I choose to be a doormat. A nice fluffy doormat with a nice partner. He said that he cheated on me too but that it's normal for men. I cry regularly because I don't feel good around him but that's probably just lady problems haha. He controls my money and gives me a small allowance of $5 a week but this is my choice in the end because I can leave. I'll be homeless if I leave because I have no money or job but it's still my choice in the end. :) I can't believe women these days, it was really bad that she posted those DMs.

  • @Traw51
    @Traw51 Год назад +4

    It sucks because we all love Jonah Hill, but the dude needs to get better he's severely insecure, and if you've been on RUclips in the past 3 years, you know what pipeline that sends you down.

  • @michaelrico4761
    @michaelrico4761 Год назад +4

    I see where Hasan is going with his take: with the evidence presented, Jonah is possibly just insecure, not full on emotional abuse.
    However, I think how he said it was definitely a bit odd to listen too. Definitely a "grandpa, please rephrase that" moment.

  • @Idolikethis
    @Idolikethis Год назад +3

    This most certainly is abuse as it stands Hasan😅. He's on his "allegedly"
    "chopped her arm off" like I just got yelled at in an flashback identical way and once again I'm unaware of where this anger comes from towards me in this particular circumstance...so like who's more abusive even in this brief description. Obv the person who's being described as yelling at me. right..