I have an Edifier S3000 Pro and I haven't heard the MKII yet. I think the difference in sound will be none to unnoticeable. Nothing has changed with the specs. Maybe some internal hardware changes and improved software. That's all. The only thing that could be considered an improvement is the display and the ability to connect via an app.
@@photoshopaction7418 Bass and clarity on S3000MKII is superb. Dynamic mode makes them more v curved but classic is a much better Classic Hifi sound. Also I just use the EQ on my WiiM streamer and increase just the mids by 2-3db and then even on Dynamic it sounds superb.
I love mine, but have found 3 quite major flaws with my unit. That no one else has mentioned. I’ve had them for nearly 2 months now. 1 is a Bluetooth volume input fault. So when connected to Bluetooth all audio is rooted through Bluetooth even if your not using bluetooth mode (stupid). So if I plug my iPad into the optical or usb port I can’t use the app as the remote control(it’s only real function) as when connected to Bluetooth you can’t play through the usb or optical. To get around the problem I tried connecting the Bluetooth app to my phone (to use my phone as the controller)while using optical on my iPad. The major fault is,…if I accidentally press play on the phone while it’s connected to my iPad optically (or usb) it causes a fault that instantly increases the volume to maximum causing a loud popping sound and sore ears and scrambling to turn them back down. Remember these speakers are 512w peak and 256w rms! It doesn’t change input to Bluetooth it just maximises the speaker volume while in optical or usb. It can also happen when swapping through the inputs while it’s connected to Bluetooth. Again, It doesn’t switch to Bluetooth to play the audio it remains on optical or usb and just rockets the volume to maximum (instantly) on the speakers and nearly blows the speakers. This fault has caused me to delete the app and forget the speakers on Bluetooth. It happened about 6 or 7 times before I figured it out. I now use a WiiM WiFi streamer instead(brilliant sounds much better than Bluetooth highly recommend). I’m still worried it might’ve caused some permanent damage. The second major fault I’ve just found is,…that when using the optical connection into the internal DAC I can’t play any files (tried 3 different streaming services and downloads) at 88.2khz, all other sample rates play but not 88.2khz. Though, the same 88.2khz files and sample rates do play through USB and Bluetooth. I haven’t been able to test the Coax input as I’d have to buy extra equipment. And possibly a 3rd fault, I’ve noticed some sparking when turning the amps on/off. Both my speakers do it. I disconnect from power and move my speakers and stands when they’re not in use so I’ve noticed it more than most people probably would. I think I need to have a chat with EDIFIER and see what they have to say about it! Other than this and needing to up the mids slightly with an EQ (I like the one on the WiiM) I still love them and think they are great speakers. All the best guys!
Great video, thanks! 👍🏻 My two cents: Edifier absolutely needs to rethink their remote control. If you’re over 50 or have visual impairments, you may find it challenging to navigate the various inputs, especially in low lighting. This remote would greatly benefit from backlit buttons or contrasting colours. 🤷🏻♂️
@@tessie4204 The Edifier website says Bluetooth 5.0. So the only improvement is the display and the ability to control it via the app. There may have been some internal hardware changes, but according to the specs, nothing major has changed.
Redesigned remote control (better button layout),it saves the last used volume (as long as it was between 10 and 40 out of 50) and DSP setting, a bigger screen, a (crappy and dangerous) Bluetooth app, a customisable DSP profile, and some owners of both say it’s tuned to be more bass heavy than the pros and all the advertising has switched to bass centric themes. The booklet states the same hardware specs as before but states that “specs may be higher than listed for upgrade and performance purposes”.
I've bought s2000 mkiii for the 3d time now and finally came to understanding this is a perfect model for me so far, even though they're somewhat overpriced. I also used to have s3000 pro, but due to their V-curve sound I couldn't enjoy them at all. So, I'm wondering what the s3000 mkii sounds like, however I suppose it's just like s3000 pro.
I have plenty of Edifier speakers on my collection, R1380db, R1700bts, MR4, S2000mkiii, R2850db... So far, R2850db serve me best, it has fairly neutral sound signature, good separation and imaging, bass can go quite deep too. Most importantly, it is not a V shape sound signature. Recently, I added a Edifier T5 to pair with them, setting the LPF to 90hz. It gives the R2850 extra ohm on the low end, it is perfect now😊
I have S3000MKII’s and I’ve found that the Classic DSP is less v-curved than the Dynamic DSP, but if I use the EQ on the WiiM and just increase the mids only by 2-3db, even in dynamic mode,… they sound so much clearer and more detailed in the mids. It really dampens the vcurve a lot and they now sound superb to me with greater clarity across the range.
Why have you had to buy the s2000 mk2ii 3 times? Do they fail after a few years? Did you find a noticeable difference between s2000 and s3000 to justify double the price?
@ no, they worked perfectly fine. I have had a thought to buy airpulse a300, but never had a chance due to overprice. I just thought I want something different in the sound picture, but finally understood that s2000 mkiii gives me around 85-90% of what you can achieve in this subject. S3000 pro are louder, nit drastically though, somewhat punchier and the highs are sharper, however the mid range is very muffled. The low and the high range dominate and you don’t enjoy much that midrange which is somewhere behind. In general, the s3000 pro gives a v-curve sound, whereas the s2000 mkiii is flatter, smother and more balanced and you definitely won’t get tired like from s3000 pro
Great Video, I was just wondering. The Bluetooth Version you mention is 5.3, but on the official website its written 5.0. Any insight on what it truly is? Thanks alot.
I got mine yesterday, all documentation and the box says Bluetooth 5.0. It says its Bluetooth can support APTX HD and 24bit and 48khz. Though some documentation says specs could be higher than specified due to performance and upgrade purposes. So super vague. Personally, i think there is a big step up in audio quality when using a wired connection. (Although, I’m using apple devices some of which might not support APTX HD). I would personally recommend just getting a usba-usbc etc adapter and using the provided usb cable to connect with your phone etc, especially if listening to lossless or hi res lossless. That way you’ll use the systems built in usb DAC, which will not be compressed like the Bluetooth, and it allows a much higher sample rate of up to 192khz (Again some documentation hints of being capable of even higher sample rates). Also, you’ll be able to control the media player on your device from the edifiers remote control. I like to use a usb to optical adapter. I think it definitely makes a good sound difference compared to usb on my devices and is worth the upgrade and my devices read it differently to usb (but ymmv). However that’ll set you back as much as around $50 extra for a decent one. You also loose the ability to control the media player with the EDIFIER’s remote. I know you didn’t ask me, but I hope it helps!
They are good but everything feels more dynamic and responsive with more details the louder you go. Lower volume performance seems to be increased if you boost the mid ranges a couple dbs with an EQ. That being said they are very loud and have twice the power of s2000mkiii’s. I often find volume 15(out of 50) to be a good volume for everyday listening. Not sure my neighbours would agree though, they’re pretty loud. Especially on tidal with correct volume settings.
Any other speakers you recommend in this under $1,000SGD range (Singapore/Malaysia)? Don't find much compelling options in our area. Read on a Reddit thread about the "single point of failure for the S3000, and dead-end upgrade path," but I have no idea what's that about
When i bought this speaker first thing that i do is to open them and put some absorbing material inside on walls because as default sound is like coming from empty bucket. I don`t know who is designer but he must be half deaf or marketing doing design... When you fix that you got new speakers. You should see what they put inside and won`t believe and how much... no comment..
Wow never heard of that problem mine work perfect and connect in under 2 seconds, but I use only with 5ghz phone hotspot. They’re meant to be 5.8ghz so that doesn’t happen! I hope you get sorted out ok by EDIFIER. All the best!
Asked about 2 months ago at the Edifier if they will make an upgrade for a HDMI connection, but the answer was not promising for that. They said that it's nothing on their agenda right now 🙂
@@29mariusiosif you could buy an hdmi (about $20-50) audio extractor. Then you could use that to feed your device by hdmi into it, then convert the signal out into either optical or coaxial output, then connect into the optical or coax input port of the speakers or an external Dac. Now you’ve converted hdmi signal into an optical or coaxial signal the speakers can understand. Hopefully that helps!
@@29mariusiosifyou could buy an hdmi audio extractor/convertor ($20-50). Plug your hdmi device into that then convert it into optical or coaxial signal and plug it into the speakers optical or coaxial input. I use a similar product that converts any usbc into optical, coax or hdmi output. I hope this helps!
@@29mariusiosif you could buy an hdmi audio extractor/converter($20-50) plug your hdmi device into that then convert it into optical or coax signal and plug into the optical or coaxial input of the speakers or an external Dac. I use a similar converter that takes any usbc signal and converts into optical,coaxial or hdmi. I hope this helps!
@@luca_rr4660 it was an Amazon/Amazon warehouse type deal. Condition: “Used like new, a brand new item with a sealed slightly damaged outer box and full warranty”. However, when I got them the box wasn’t even damaged, and they came fully sealed with a full warranty, and the standard Amazon 1 months free returns period on all audio gear. Also, I ordered the pros, but I received the MKII’s instead, as the listing hadn’t been updated. I ended up calling to check I hadn’t got someone else’s order by accident, but was reassured I hadn’t and told I could keep them. It was also pretty close to prime day. So definitely shop around!
@@luca_rr4660like I said I got lucky. It was an Amazon/Amazon warehouse type deal. Condition: “Used like new” “A brand new item in a sealed slightly damaged outer box with full 1year warranty”. It also came with the usual 1 months free returns period. When I received them there was no damage to the box at all. Also, I had ordered the S3000Pros, but I received the MKII’s. I actually ended up phoning to make sure I didn’t receive someone else’s order, but i was reassured and told I could keep them. It was also under a month till prime day. So definitely shop around.
@@luca_rr4660Like I said I got lucky! It was an Amazon warehouse type deal. It was also close to prime day. Condition: “Used like new, box is a little damaged, but item is still brand new and sealed with full warranty”. It also came with the standard Amazon 1 month free returns policy for audio equipment. I actually ordered the old S3000PRO’s as there wasn’t a listing for the MKII’s, but when it turned up, the box was completely undamaged and it was actually the S3000MKII’s. I ended up phoning and explaining that I thought I may have received someone else’s order, but was reassured and told I could keep them. So definitely shop around.
Definitely a powerful beast with a classy design, right? 🔊
Yes
That wood design is subtle yet so classy
How does the sound compare to the original S3000 Pro?
I have an Edifier S3000 Pro and I haven't heard the MKII yet. I think the difference in sound will be none to unnoticeable.
Nothing has changed with the specs. Maybe some internal hardware changes and improved software. That's all.
The only thing that could be considered an improvement is the display and the ability to connect via an app.
@@DarkBlade05 S3000 Pro is v shaped and over shadowed the mids,too smooth and soft,mk2 has better tuning,better bass control,better clarity
@@photoshopaction7418Do you have the s3000 pro mk3 then ?
@@photoshopaction7418 Bass and clarity on S3000MKII is superb. Dynamic mode makes them more v curved but classic is a much better Classic Hifi sound. Also I just use the EQ on my WiiM streamer and increase just the mids by 2-3db and then even on Dynamic it sounds superb.
I love mine, but have found 3 quite major flaws with my unit. That no one else has mentioned. I’ve had them for nearly 2 months now.
1 is a Bluetooth volume input fault. So when connected to Bluetooth all audio is rooted through Bluetooth even if your not using bluetooth mode (stupid). So if I plug my iPad into the optical or usb port I can’t use the app as the remote control(it’s only real function) as when connected to Bluetooth you can’t play through the usb or optical. To get around the problem I tried connecting the Bluetooth app to my phone (to use my phone as the controller)while using optical on my iPad.
The major fault is,…if I accidentally press play on the phone while it’s connected to my iPad optically (or usb) it causes a fault that instantly increases the volume to maximum causing a loud popping sound and sore ears and scrambling to turn them back down. Remember these speakers are 512w peak and 256w rms! It doesn’t change input to Bluetooth it just maximises the speaker volume while in optical or usb.
It can also happen when swapping through the inputs while it’s connected to Bluetooth. Again, It doesn’t switch to Bluetooth to play the audio it remains on optical or usb and just rockets the volume to maximum (instantly) on the speakers and nearly blows the speakers. This fault has caused me to delete the app and forget the speakers on Bluetooth. It happened about 6 or 7 times before I figured it out. I now use a WiiM WiFi streamer instead(brilliant sounds much better than Bluetooth highly recommend). I’m still worried it might’ve caused some permanent damage.
The second major fault I’ve just found is,…that when using the optical connection into the internal DAC I can’t play any files (tried 3 different streaming services and downloads) at 88.2khz, all other sample rates play but not 88.2khz. Though, the same 88.2khz files and sample rates do play through USB and Bluetooth. I haven’t been able to test the Coax input as I’d have to buy extra equipment.
And possibly a 3rd fault, I’ve noticed some sparking when turning the amps on/off. Both my speakers do it. I disconnect from power and move my speakers and stands when they’re not in use so I’ve noticed it more than most people probably would.
I think I need to have a chat with EDIFIER and see what they have to say about it!
Other than this and needing to up the mids slightly with an EQ (I like the one on the WiiM) I still love them and think they are great speakers.
All the best guys!
Great video, thanks! 👍🏻
My two cents: Edifier absolutely needs to rethink their remote control. If you’re over 50 or have visual impairments, you may find it challenging to navigate the various inputs, especially in low lighting. This remote would greatly benefit from backlit buttons or contrasting colours. 🤷🏻♂️
So just how much better are these over the MR4S in volume and quality?
what is the difference between the previous version 3000pro??
Updated hardware like BT5.3, USB, ... Better hardware and software design.
@@tessie4204 The Edifier website says Bluetooth 5.0. So the only improvement is the display and the ability to control it via the app.
There may have been some internal hardware changes, but according to the specs, nothing major has changed.
@@tessie4204 Doesnt sound worth the upgrade
Redesigned remote control (better button layout),it saves the last used volume (as long as it was between 10 and 40 out of 50) and DSP setting, a bigger screen, a (crappy and dangerous) Bluetooth app, a customisable DSP profile, and some owners of both say it’s tuned to be more bass heavy than the pros and all the advertising has switched to bass centric themes.
The booklet states the same hardware specs as before but states that “specs may be higher than listed for upgrade and performance purposes”.
These speakers speaks VOLUMES
Hahaha yeah!!
Que pasa si le agrego un subwoofer edifier t5 perderé calidad o los dejo como están sin sub?
I've bought s2000 mkiii for the 3d time now and finally came to understanding this is a perfect model for me so far, even though they're somewhat overpriced. I also used to have s3000 pro, but due to their V-curve sound I couldn't enjoy them at all. So, I'm wondering what the s3000 mkii sounds like, however I suppose it's just like s3000 pro.
I have plenty of Edifier speakers on my collection, R1380db, R1700bts, MR4, S2000mkiii, R2850db...
So far, R2850db serve me best, it has fairly neutral sound signature, good separation and imaging, bass can go quite deep too. Most importantly, it is not a V shape sound signature. Recently, I added a Edifier T5 to pair with them, setting the LPF to 90hz. It gives the R2850 extra ohm on the low end, it is perfect now😊
I have S3000MKII’s and I’ve found that the Classic DSP is less v-curved than the Dynamic DSP, but if I use the EQ on the WiiM and just increase the mids only by 2-3db, even in dynamic mode,… they sound so much clearer and more detailed in the mids. It really dampens the vcurve a lot and they now sound superb to me with greater clarity across the range.
Why have you had to buy the s2000 mk2ii 3 times? Do they fail after a few years? Did you find a noticeable difference between s2000 and s3000 to justify double the price?
@ no, they worked perfectly fine. I have had a thought to buy airpulse a300, but never had a chance due to overprice. I just thought I want something different in the sound picture, but finally understood that s2000 mkiii gives me around 85-90% of what you can achieve in this subject. S3000 pro are louder, nit drastically though, somewhat punchier and the highs are sharper, however the mid range is very muffled. The low and the high range dominate and you don’t enjoy much that midrange which is somewhere behind. In general, the s3000 pro gives a v-curve sound, whereas the s2000 mkiii is flatter, smother and more balanced and you definitely won’t get tired like from s3000 pro
Great Video,
I was just wondering. The Bluetooth Version you mention is 5.3, but on the official website its written 5.0.
Any insight on what it truly is?
Thanks alot.
I got mine yesterday, all documentation and the box says Bluetooth 5.0.
It says its Bluetooth can support APTX HD and 24bit and 48khz. Though some documentation says specs could be higher than specified due to performance and upgrade purposes. So super vague.
Personally, i think there is a big step up in audio quality when using a wired connection. (Although, I’m using apple devices some of which might not support APTX HD).
I would personally recommend just getting a usba-usbc etc adapter and using the provided usb cable to connect with your phone etc, especially if listening to lossless or hi res lossless.
That way you’ll use the systems built in usb DAC, which will not be compressed like the Bluetooth, and it allows a much higher sample rate of up to 192khz (Again some documentation hints of being capable of even higher sample rates). Also, you’ll be able to control the media player on your device from the edifiers remote control.
I like to use a usb to optical adapter. I think it definitely makes a good sound difference compared to usb on my devices and is worth the upgrade and my devices read it differently to usb (but ymmv). However that’ll set you back as much as around $50 extra for a decent one. You also loose the ability to control the media player with the EDIFIER’s remote.
I know you didn’t ask me, but I hope it helps!
I love my s2000mkiii's in my office and I'm thinking about these for my main system. But how are they at low volumes?
They are good but everything feels more dynamic and responsive with more details the louder you go. Lower volume performance seems to be increased if you boost the mid ranges a couple dbs with an EQ. That being said they are very loud and have twice the power of s2000mkiii’s. I often find volume 15(out of 50) to be a good volume for everyday listening. Not sure my neighbours would agree though, they’re pretty loud. Especially on tidal with correct volume settings.
@@aj8ky I got a chance to audition these before buying and I'm glad I did because I didn't care for them nearly as much as my 2000's. #YMMV
What Edifier app SPECIFICALLY are you using to connect to the S3000MKII? I see several on the App store but none seem to mention speakers.
EDIFIER ConneX app it’s awful don’t bother and be careful there’s a volume fault that can blow your speakers.
Any other speakers you recommend in this under $1,000SGD range (Singapore/Malaysia)?
Don't find much compelling options in our area. Read on a Reddit thread about the "single point of failure for the S3000, and dead-end upgrade path," but I have no idea what's that about
Adam Lobo TV Nice content, What would you recommend between these & the Klipsch rp-600m ii for a turntable setup?
The app does not list the S3000MK II :(
When i bought this speaker first thing that i do is to open them and put some absorbing material inside on walls because as default sound is like coming from empty bucket. I don`t know who is designer but he must be half deaf or marketing doing design... When you fix that you got new speakers. You should see what they put inside and won`t believe and how much... no comment..
It has Bluetooth version 5.0 OR 5.3 (3:00)? On edifier site they have mentioned Bluetooth V5.0
I'd trust the website. So probably bluetooth 5.0.
My connection master and slave speakers always doesn't connect and was told 5 ghz interfere with the connection
I have the same issue. Two brand new pairs of those speakers do not connect automatically sometimes and i have 5ghz wifi
Wow never heard of that problem mine work perfect and connect in under 2 seconds, but I use only with 5ghz phone hotspot. They’re meant to be 5.8ghz so that doesn’t happen! I hope you get sorted out ok by EDIFIER.
All the best!
They $315 here in China
lol
que desastre aca en argentina lo venden a mas de 2000 dolares
800aud
BIG speakers with BIG sounds 🤣
Indeed! 😝
The problem is that they are very old, including Bluetooth 5.0, lol;l
Speaker tech doesn’t age in same way that computer tech does good sounding speakers still sound good no matter how old the design.
Asked about 2 months ago at the Edifier if they will make an upgrade for a HDMI connection, but the answer was not promising for that. They said that it's nothing on their agenda right now 🙂
@@29mariusiosif you could buy an hdmi (about $20-50) audio extractor. Then you could use that to feed your device by hdmi into it, then convert the signal out into either optical or coaxial output, then connect into the optical or coax input port of the speakers or an external Dac. Now you’ve converted hdmi signal into an optical or coaxial signal the speakers can understand.
Hopefully that helps!
@@29mariusiosifyou could buy an hdmi audio extractor/convertor ($20-50). Plug your hdmi device into that then convert it into optical or coaxial signal and plug it into the speakers optical or coaxial input. I use a similar product that converts any usbc into optical, coax or hdmi output.
I hope this helps!
@@29mariusiosif you could buy an hdmi audio extractor/converter($20-50) plug your hdmi device into that then convert it into optical or coax signal and plug into the optical or coaxial input of the speakers or an external Dac. I use a similar converter that takes any usbc signal and converts into optical,coaxial or hdmi.
I hope this helps!
This is Very expensive
Often on sale, or available for less with a damaged or opened box, as well as second hand. I got lucky and scored them with a £220 discount.
@@aj8ky where did you buy them that cheap?
@@luca_rr4660 it was an Amazon/Amazon warehouse type deal. Condition: “Used like new, a brand new item with a sealed slightly damaged outer box and full warranty”.
However, when I got them the box wasn’t even damaged, and they came fully sealed with a full warranty, and the standard Amazon 1 months free returns period on all audio gear. Also, I ordered the pros, but I received the MKII’s instead, as the listing hadn’t been updated.
I ended up calling to check I hadn’t got someone else’s order by accident, but was reassured I hadn’t and told I could keep them.
It was also pretty close to prime day.
So definitely shop around!
@@luca_rr4660like I said I got lucky.
It was an Amazon/Amazon warehouse type deal. Condition: “Used like new” “A brand new item in a sealed slightly damaged outer box with full 1year warranty”. It also came with the usual 1 months free returns period.
When I received them there was no damage to the box at all. Also, I had ordered the S3000Pros, but I received the MKII’s.
I actually ended up phoning to make sure I didn’t receive someone else’s order, but i was reassured and told I could keep them. It was also under a month till prime day.
So definitely shop around.
@@luca_rr4660Like I said I got lucky!
It was an Amazon warehouse type deal. It was also close to prime day.
Condition: “Used like new, box is a little damaged, but item is still brand new and sealed with full warranty”.
It also came with the standard Amazon 1 month free returns policy for audio equipment.
I actually ordered the old S3000PRO’s as there wasn’t a listing for the MKII’s, but when it turned up, the box was completely undamaged and it was actually the S3000MKII’s.
I ended up phoning and explaining that I thought I may have received someone else’s order, but was reassured and told I could keep them.
So definitely shop around.
All those pop-ups with fx definitely take away from what you're trying to convey.. I'm out.
Bye! 👋
Learn multitasking! My god, some people are so sensitive! Get over it!
The FXs offended me so much that I’m even going to return my speakers now!😂