Alpengeist Review Busch Gardens Williamsburg Worlds Tallest B&M Invert
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- The tallest inverted coaster ever built by B&M is located at Busch Gardens in Williamsburg, Virginia. The ride is almost a hyper coaster, sitting just 5 feet shy of 200 feet. It powers through 6 inversions along a snow themed course.
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The actual tallest invert is in my Planet Coaster park
I have several strata inverts 😄
7000 ft coaster
@@vincentdonnelly5555 😆
Pfft face my strata wild mouse
@@wut7640 bro i want you to try and beat my 800ft leap the dips
As an Alpengeist fanboy, I appreciate your reissuing this ride review and offering a more diplomatic take on it the second time around. 😄👍🏾 Not everyone’s gonna be a fan, but it’s bound to leave a strong impression, wherever you land on it. Given your particular critiques, I think 7 is a fair rating.
Remember when taylor did park and coaster battles? Og coaster studios
I miss those so much!
I honestly wasn't a fan of those because I disagreed with a lot of his thoughts. For example he said the theming of Afterburn at Carowonds was better than this but he only said that because he liked Afterburn more and wanted that coaster to win.
@@mitchellries256 ya I agree especially they early ones weren’t good
Og? He's like twenty years old
Og coasterguy14
Takoda: “How do you pronounce this thing?”
i was looking for a comment like this HAHAHA
Apeginest😂😂
what's really interesting about Alpengeist is that it's the only B&M invert in the world with a 0 car which was never done on an invert but alpengeist is
The zero car has axis wheels while the rest have fixed wheels. This allows maneuvering to be tighter, quicker, and smoother.
@@aleksthevoyager1260 very clever of B&M but I have to wonder why they never made more inverts with 0 car I guess they didn't want them too uncomfortable, to say the least, but who knows
@Marcus Sorenson They did. Every single B&M train has a zero car, it’s just that most have seats mounted on them
It looks so sick with it too
Huh what's that mean ?
I never noticed the skis below the Immelmann. You're going too fast!
I did offride I think
The entrance to the cobra roll is probably my favorite part! Quite intense.
Alpie is definitely my favorite in the park. That bank into the mid-course is a doozy, but I LOVE the cobra roll. It's the one element that makes me yell out "WOOO" twice.
The Cobra Roll is one of my favorite moments. Riding in the back makes it feel like your legs are going to fall off.
Alpi is phenomenal. It's in my top 15 coasters out of 239 creds... That cobra roll is hands down one of the best elements on any coaster ever.
This was a 100% true analysis, this is the only ride at busch gardens that makes me sick sometimes only because of the transition in to the cobra roll it really whips
Glad to see you revisiting coasters from your past and giving them reviews from a more experienced coaster enthusiasts perspective. Personally I haven't ridden Alpangheist since 2015 so will definitely be looking to give this puppy a try next year. If covid doesn't affect plans
Taylor: "There are some B&M's that have developed a rattle"
*shows video of Firebird at SFA*
Me: "He's not wrong tho"
@@Joshwake at this point KI is just plagued by rattly b&ms, I believe it has something to do with the land it sits on but am not 100% sure
@@Joshwake I'd like to think they did, but KI could have just gotten an Intamin giga, and they'd be good to go. Yet again Intamins can have rattles as well
@@Joshwake one can dream cant they
Makes sense just look at it banshee, beast,and orion sit on uneven terrain
@@Joshwake is Orion smooth I never got to go to my home park this year.
I rode it yesterday. New paint job looks great, and it was one of the smoother rides I can remember on it. In the past, once has been enough for me, but I hopped back on for a re-ride right after. 25 years old, and the thing's still near the top of the B&M invert food chain in my book. Crawling into the break run does kind of suck, but the second half is scenic after the adrenaline rush that the first half brings. That first drop through the immelman is special.
Long live Alpengeist!
Just rode today and I appreciate this comment, easily my favorite coaster in the park!
I will forever remember my ride on this during night ERT at CoasterCon two years ago. It was raining fairly hard, turning it into a psuedo water ride. I ended up getting off soaking wet, it was awesome!
Love this ride so much. Visited that park twice in different years back when I was first getting introduced to upside down roller coasters. Lochness monster was the first upside down coaster I ever rode in my life
I love Alpengeist! Awesome invert and people say it's rough but I found it smooth.
I think this is my favourite BGW coaster even despite the newer additions like Pantheon or Griffon. Its intensity is unlike anything else at the park.
You know you’re old when you remember Alpengeist opening and being fresh.
Definitely my favorite because of the height, speed, the layout of the inversions, the theming, the tunnels and how close you get to the ground especially near the very end.
These re reviews are really cool and it’s awesome to see how your opinion has changed on a coaster!
Missed opportunity for the park to make Alpengeist a hyper coaster.
I mean, Takoda compared X2’s drop of 88.5 degrees to the height of Apegnist (what he calls Alpengeist).
I feel the same way with Steel Curtain. Just a few more feet, and they could've had the first 200ft tall inversion
Naw BGWB already got Apollo's Chariot.
But Griffon is also a hyper coaster
@@xcoasterenthusiast how, it's a B&M Dive coaster wdym ?
Nobody:
Takoda: Apegnest👁👄👁
I cannot wait for the updated Afterburn review
Didn't do any of the "defense" riding techniques and thoughts this was one of the best coasters in the park. The intensity is what makes it awesome. Especially if your used to the head crusher that is MindEraser from Six Flags America.
I remember riding this when Alpengeist was only a few years old; it was the same season they opened Apollo's Chariot. For the record, she was buttery smooth back then. It was like riding a cloud and it wasn't clinking so loud getting up the lift hill. There are also vents they aren't using any more; it made the area look like it was snowy and they were everywhere
I have since ridden again and I think Busch Gardens should let her sit out a year for a bit of a tune-up.They haven't been maintaining her like she deserves. I am pretty sure it's not the transitions that are the problem. First off, they need new trains. The ones on the track are quite literally the same ones from 1997. You can see the wear and tear on them and some of the stickers for the rows are kaput. New trains on Alpengeist that are less rigid would help a lot.
She needs to have some parts fixed, too: The Big Bad Wolf died because the track was not checked enough and the wear on it got dangerous. After millions of goes around the track, Alpengeist by now has wear and tear on the tracks and supports. Time for a checkup and repair. Turning the old vents back on would also be a plus.
I had my smoothest ride on it since the early 2000s yesterday. They improved something over the winter.
I LOVE Alpengeist in the front row. Otherwise, I'm not as big of a fan. I think that smaller inverts are less drawn out in their elements which is why I think Taylor likes them more. It would be very hard to have a coaster this tall have really tight elements because it would be really hard on the track. I personally really love the setting and terrain interaction of the coaster and I enjoy the gigantic elements. But I can understand why it wouldn't be a lot of people's favorite, especially if your head is banging.
Its been way too long, but I rode this during the fireworks finale on the 4th of July and went down the drop as it started. I will always love this ride 😍
Keeping my head forward is how I ride all B&M inverts honestly
It’s remarkable to hear that it’s gotten rough. When it first opened in 1997, I went on it. I went to college at William & Mary. It was the smoothest roller coaster I’d ever been on at the time. Either others have been built smoother, or it’s just gotten old.
They smoothed it out considerably. I went on it yesterday and it reminded me of the early 2000s.
@@michaelpryor78 good to hear
Apegnist
-Takoda
I personally rank this currently as the best coaster at BGW (my home park). The theming is there; the station does look like a building you’d find at a ski lodge. While the ending is a little slow, it works for me since you have snow to look at. The inversions are all great (yes, even the cobra), especially that zero-g roll next to Le Scoot. Butter-smooth, whippy; just as an old-school intense B&M should be.
Ranking it next to other B&Ms, I put it higher than Raptor since Raptor has a stronger ending, but lacks the theming and setting that Alpie does.
I've always thought I was crazy when I thought the transition in to the MCBR was rough - glad I'm not the only one who thought that....
My dad would never ride this when we went - always gave him a headache and ruined the rest of the day for him.
I swear to God, I never fall in love
Oh dear god-
I remember reading that the lift hill supports were designed as such to eliminate the need for huge support columns scattered throughout the hamlet that was already existing. And I remember back in '97 that lift hill was very quiet going up and those mid-course breaks were barely tapped when going through. It's been years since I been on Alpengeist
I always considered alpengiest to be like banshee, but slightly smoother with slightly more exiting inversions, and better restraints, and a slightly better theme. Basically like a slightly better banshee.
Tried having a conversation with someone going up the lift hill with a mask and gave up after a few seconds. It’s still one of my favorites at Busch Gardens and your analysis is very spot on to my own ride experiences.
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This is my favorite in the park (before Pantheon opens) I actually really like that cobra roll and the ending has some good foot choppers.
This one was a bit shocking to me at first, but on like my third ride, it was solidly my favorite invert of all time. Probably in my top 3 coasters I’ve ever ridden. Crazy intensity and strong positives. Also, while my rides did shuffle a bit, it never got to be a real Jack-hammering like dominator when I rode it.
The Supports Kinda Reminds Of The Ones On Baron 1898
It's been years since I went to BGW but Alpengeist was definitely my favorite coaster in the park. Lines were basically nonexistent so at one point I rode it 7 times in a row without getting off. I can see what you're saying about the whippy transitions but for whatever reason that didn't really bother me that much. I definitely think the theming/use of terrain is really cool (no pun intended), and I thought the layout was quite fun. I'd be interested in riding it again to see if it's really as good as I remember.
I love your vids! Keep it up!
Good review I really love alpengeist for its intensity and speed.
My first B&M, invert, and coaster with inversions. My first B&M would’ve been Kumba but a violent thunderstorm shut down the park while I was on line for it. Alpengeist’s first drop was much higher than it appeared from the ground, and entering that cobra roll felt very rough, but the ride overall wasn’t as rough as either of the Dueling Dragons. Talon is the smoothest invert I’ve ridden by far, and I have Hydra and Nitro tied for the smoothest B&M’s I’ve ridden.
I rode Alpengeist in 1997 - it was my very first inverted roller coaster and it was brilliant. The trim off the lift was off and the mid-course, to my knowledge, wasn't on (if it was, it was unnoticeable). The entire train received a dose of airtime when dropping off of the mid-course brakes. Also, it was glossy smooth. I rode again in 2008 and it was a sad shadow of what it once was. RIP, Alpengeist of 1997 :-(
I always loved the supports on the lift hill
I road this many, many years ago! It was fun!!!
0:48 I see what you did there. Saying cool in a snowy themed coaster review... lol.
I can’t handle roller coasters very well bc I get sick but I have ridden Alpengeist and I remember how intense it was. That first half is just awesome
Back in the day when the ride was new (I'm 21 so I didn't experience it this way) the mid course basically didn't grab the trains at all. They flew straight on through and hit the zero-g roll with way more speed. It's hard to find video footage of it after that but I'm sure that the rest of the layout would also see a bump in speed compared to modern ride on Alpengeist.
I'm 34 I remember it well. This thing used to fly from beginning to end
The cobra roll on this is huge. That has a lot to do with jolt going into it. Also the mid course break run really does kill the momentum and honestly it should cause up until that point it’s hauling. Given how intense it is in the first half, it’s gotta let up on it in the second half. I honestly think that’s why the ride has lasted so long.
I rode this for the first time in June and I made sure that I was keeping my head forward. The main part that got me was the midcourse brake run. It nearly stopped the train completely and it felt like my head was going to detach from the rest of my body. Did not expect it at all.
Great review. I think it would be great to see a re-review of Apollo’s Chariot down the line.
My favorite inverted coaster.
Alpinegiest has my favorite cobra roll. It's the only one that I've experienced that is forceful.
Why do people think Banshee is rough, I mean it has a slight rattle, but if you come off that thinking its rough, you might want to ride Racer in the same park, that was unbearably rough this year
I think they just mean "rough" as is in compared to other inverts or just B&Ms in general
@@capitalthrills I can see that perspective for sure because Batman at SFSTL is glossy smooth with no hint of a rattle and is almost 20 years older than Banshee, which is a little sad, but also its kind of misleading to call Banshee rough while also calling something like Raven or Legend rough
Invertigo and the Beast are one of the worst rides at Kings Island.
Can't wait to hear your taking on Ozlris on your next Euro tour. So many mixed reviews but it's currently my top invert, for me it beats the like of Black Mamba and Banshee. It seems so underrated.
I love Alpengeist, it's a Monster!!!
I enjoyed this ride here. It was full of surprises to say the least! It was great!
i LOVE alpengeist it was my fav at the park! but i’m a sucker for inverts
I rode this coaster yesterday, my first time, and I closed my eyes half the time lol
Love that you’re revisiting your early reviews. So, so excited!
Interesting take on the Cobra Roll. The Cobra Roll in general is my favorite inversion with the one on Alpengeist being my all time favorite Cobra Roll. Being a Drachen Fire veteran, I guess I never had a problem riding Alpengeist.
Just rode it 4 times, recently. Found it very smooth for as old as it is. I didn’t find the cobra roll to be rough at all. Going into the mid course, sure. However, the same critique I say about Raptors final brake run. That’ll snap your neck. Nobody says bad on that, but Alpengeist mid course? Lol.
why is the lift hill so loud?
Nice to see you revisiting some rides from your early reviews. Would you consider doing a ranking video of all the inverts you’ve now ridden around the world, like you did with all the Gigas? Have a great Christmas!
An invert ranking is definitely a possibility!
7:19 you forgot the final score text 😂
This man really gave the best invert a 7/10? Imagine
The cobra roll and entrance into the mid-course brake run feel like rough moguls on a ski slope.
I loved this a lot its my number 2 behind Pantheon. I only got on five coasters at night though I was supposed to have daytime rides
Bro this ride is so fun!
I love this coaster since its a long ride and the lines are usually not too long, especially in 2022 with the arrival of Pantheon
Hmmmm I always wondered when you guys speak on rattle...I've ridden Banshee maybe 4x in my life....I don't feel any rattle...what the heck are you guys talking about when you say rides have a rattle lol. I grew up riding Mean streak and I feel like anything less than that , that has a shake or vibration or "rattle" is child's play and easy to deal with LOL..
Yeah, what people claim to be "rough" is just getting ridiculous. People say Kingda Ka is bad because it's rough but it's actually really damn smooth in the front row for a 130 mph coaster. And even towards the back it's still bearable. I only hate roughness when it's coupled with strong positive G-Force or a trash restraint. The jackhammering positive Gs hurt my neck and back, while trash restraints are just uncomfortable anyway and the roughness doesn't help.
@@sprawlz6466 Kingda Ka should get new restraints.
@@ArrowThrills yeah I agree. I don’t think they’re a deal breaker now but the intamin vest restraints are just way better.
I love ❤️ inverts talon here at Dorney park in Allentown pa is by far my 1 fav.
I like the cobra roll it’s insane
R.I.P 2014 old review Taylor please don’t delete it it’s quality content 👌 and iconic!
Compared with my fav invert, Montu, Alpengeist loses some speed at the end with helix. I actually never noticed that. Also, the skis are pretty neat. When flying by so fast, you cant quite see the skis very well.
Happy Christmas alpengeist 🎄
Favorite coaster in my book.
Yes! I saw myself!!!! Great review btw.
i rode alpengeist back in 2016. granted it was a little rickety (but not bad) and made my feet numb lol, it's a relatively fun and unique experience
Question why is the lift hill so loud and why havent they changed it?
I'd love to see you rank all the inverts!
I love alpengeist and the cobra roll is my favorite part of the ride .
Alpengeists twisted drop is awesome, I’m exited to ride it next year :)
It was funny to me at 2:39 in the video where you see Taylor’s review of Aplengeist and then Airtime thrills’ review of all the US B&M inverts on the right
The first time I rode this, the rattle gave me such a headache. It's very rare that I don't want to reride a coaster, but I spent that whole day on Gryffin and Verbolten.
3:44 is so effortless and elegant!
This was my first roller coaster ever when I was a kid
You'll love Nemesis and Inferno in the UK.. They really are phenomenal.. I've been on Montu at Busch Gardens Tampa.. and Seriously they are so different but both equally as good as each other.
Great ride
Actually my favorite invert, strange to me to hear any of it described as slow as well
I wonder if on my next visit this won't feel like the ball of steel I thought it was
It's not the same coaster as when it opened. The first handful of years she flew through the mid course without slowing down much and hauled ass to the finish. Now that the mcbr are on the last 3rd of the ride is floaty and the helix is so weak it feels pointless. Alpy was an easy 9.5 for me those first 10 years, my only gripe was that transition into the mcbr, now she's a 7.5
Are you going to re review Banshee? If so, I should probably brace for impact
I agree with the great theme elements. The seats are small and the big person seat which I generally get pushed to is in the middle of the train where you can't see anything. I think sitting in front would have been much better.
How much leg room do get on b&m hypers
Nice! You should just rereview all of your old reviews that had that score system
hi taylor have u been on katun in italy and pyrenees in japan they're the only 2 invert ive never heard u talk about are they glossy smooth start to finish given the fact that they're large scale
I haven't done Pyrenees, but I did get two rides on Katun when I visited Mirabilandia. I haven't done a review on it because I only managed to get a couple shots of the ride when filming, which isn't enough to make up a review video. By now, it's also been over 3 years since I've ridden it, so a full review probably wouldn't be too fair.
This coaster used to be really smooth back in the 90s and early 2000's. Also it used to fly thru the break run and pull so many positive G's on those last turns coming into the station that your safety harness would smash into you and crush you into the seat. I don't know what's happened to all of this but they need to go back to the old way it ran lol
i rode this ride last weekend, got my wife on it… she is now hooked! great ride!!!
I haven't rode it yet but just watching this review I feel like your issue with the pacing and lack of speed in the second half would be solved if there wasnt a brake run in the midcourse. Wonder what necessitates that trim brake...