We've been blessed in the last 20 yrs to see so many ridiculous racers. Rc, Reed Stewart rv dungey jm roczen tomac cairolli helrings gaiser everts. When they talk about each other its awesome to see the respect
Its always been that way....Decoster, Joel Roberts, Mikkola, Hannah, Johnson, Ward, OMara, Bradshaw, to name a few . Every era has several superstars that dominant and are fan favorites. Its all relative. Dont start comparing them. Different times, bikes, and tracks. Beleive it or not SX tracks in the 80s early 90s were harder then to ride on then now. They didnt purposely have a flow or rhythem to them. You had to create the rhythem yourself. The jumps were not as big but they were in relationship to the bikes ability just as difficult if not more to clear, all on two strokes with powerbands as narrow as a far leftist college profesors....
This is true 100% I've grown up in south Alabama racing and just about every track close to where Ive grown up (south Alabama, south Mississippi and north Florida) and when I always went to a gripped up nice non sandy track I was always way faster of a rider than most of the guys I was riding with. I love the sand I always have. I have more fun on a sandy track than a tacky well groomed track. Even my personal track at my house was a sandy track so I've grown up racing sandy tracks.
During the conversation about sand and hard pack I realized that Sand riders are constantly restricted by drag all the time, during all motions. Although they are competitive AND that's part of it, they are also individually wanting to go faster on an internal level - fulfillment. Thats the feeling we all are seeking during riding and want to feel. When you surprise yourself during riding it is inspiring event and you want to do it again. The people who love that feeling is all of us.
Yeah, raced FTR in Florida for years......and all the GNCC's there. Had to learn how to hit those whoops hard . But 12 miles of them each lap gets crazy old. Fastest guy I ever had blast past me was Kenny Keylon....the Sand Master. Look him up.
First time I rode a sand track in Holland I went straight over the bars after the first jump...fucking thing dug in like fuck soon learnt to lower the back raise the front don't touch the brakes and rail what you can ...after going over there for a couple of years attending the odd race here and there getting smoked by everyone you pick up some good moves and do progress...fitness major factor ..if you're not fit you will crash big time ..if your suspension is crap you will crash big time ...your tires never wear out but your engine does ..but in my opinion the best type of riding there is ( don't like those big ass jump tracks )
I move to florida an much to my surprise they were stunned i could ride sand...i love it...i used ti ride in a sand pit everyday after school in new jersey its just more fun when the bike is freer an moves around plus falling is not as bad it kinda like mat in gynastic...just fun...buy you can an have to be more aggressive...the pit i rode in had every thing pavement gravel hard pack then i go off that stuff flying into the sand so i road for different surfaces each lap...
Sand tracks are a different breed for sure, because you always have to be wide open, ain't no way you can go through sand fast in the midrange, and once you make a mistake and shut off you're done, because there's no inertia in the sand. That's what makes it so tricky, and how long can you go full throttle? It takes one hiccup, one crossrut or missed trajectory in the turn and you're dug in miserably. Sand tracks separate the men from the boys, no doubt. You have to be 100% on your A game to be competitive in the sand, fitness, form, technique, it takes it all.
im dutch and here there are heavy and light tracks . people who only go to the light harder tracks get frowned upon like 'yeah on hard rock you can ride untill you get sand '
That's the way I feel loved in south Florida my whole life all the tracks are sand other than hard rock and they had a nasty sand track. I remember going to hardrock my first time on my yz250 it felt way faster
As an mx fan from early 90s... tomac fan over the last 5 yrs. So good to see Herlings showing respect to tomac. Fyi herlings is so nasty that maybe tomac beast mode ride in the 2nd moto might not be enough.
Couldn't agree more. If you just read the headlines of these interviews you'd assume JH is just being cocky and calling him out but nothing could be further from the truth. Was shocked at the level of respect he's shown ET3. As they say, real recognizes real
It's not a bad hypothesis. What i find hilarious is when Jeffrey basically all but dismisses it(in a polite way) as being an accurate description of his experience, Jace is so convinced he was onto something he just ignores it and instead chooses to pretend he's agreeing with him. Classic example of selective hearing/confirmation bias. Haha
These interviews are making it really hard not to like Herlings. To be honest I can't even remember why I don't want to like him. I guess it's that "Our Guy" "Their Guy" thing?
I think those who dont ride sand when they get in sand they dont seem to try to work an flow witj the sand they fight it...an thats why they struggle they need to be at peace with it an just flow with it but i think they fite it...
Watch JH on a sand track and he doesn't cover the Front brake but uses the clutch heavy as a throttle and then rails the outside lines and controls speed with the rear brake, stands on the balls of the feet relaxed and pre jumps and takes the speed out so no height but real speed.
While I've admittedly never watched/analyzed closely, i find it hard to believe any professional would primarily use only one brake(especially the rear brake which lacks the stopping power of front brake). I could be wrong but I'd venture to guess he's heavy throttle, uses the clutch to control TORQUE, and BOTH brakes to control speed. This is definitely an apt description for ET3's riding style hence the reason a factory clutch is good for one whole gate drop.
@@JFred2 I rode Zandvoort and the riders there carry as much speed as possible as the sand slows you all the time and the front has too stay light so if you apply front brake the sand sucks you in and the front becomes heavy so arm pump and fatigue set in. On RUclips title So fast the bullet Jeffery Herlings raw practice. Watch very closely.
@@evo5349 That's a valid point i guess i was talking more in general terms. But yea since they were discussing sand specifically and though I've never ridden a legit sand track i do know it's pretty much universally accepted it's critical not to bury your front tire which front brake would definitely do. So makes sense and i stand corrected...
@@JFred2 I have raced for 25 years and sand is the most fun but the ardest too master. Hawkstone Park sand is so different and just digs square edge holes so much so I snapped the damping rod in my Kawasaki 250 Kayaba forks. The Dutch sand like Leriop is so rough but with a soft bottom and I would say is the hardest as the holes where about a meter deep and so hard on the legs and Everts was so fast there but if you seen his calf mussels where so big his boots where made just for him. Zandvoort was beach sand just soft unless it rained then it was better. Joel Smets is a very good sand rider.
I could sit here and listen to Herlings talk moto all day.
We've been blessed in the last 20 yrs to see so many ridiculous racers. Rc, Reed Stewart rv dungey jm roczen tomac cairolli helrings gaiser everts. When they talk about each other its awesome to see the respect
Its always been that way....Decoster, Joel Roberts, Mikkola, Hannah, Johnson, Ward, OMara, Bradshaw, to name a few . Every era has several superstars that dominant and are fan favorites. Its all relative. Dont start comparing them. Different times, bikes, and tracks. Beleive it or not SX tracks in the 80s early 90s were harder then to ride on then now. They didnt purposely have a flow or rhythem to them. You had to create the rhythem yourself. The jumps were not as big but they were in relationship to the bikes ability just as difficult if not more to clear, all on two strokes with powerbands as narrow as a far leftist college profesors....
The hop style he's referencing in the sand is 100% how Jett rides.
Yeah....Jet is bunny hopping all over the place.
No one notices it happening.
@@craigmccall7450 a lot of people notice that actually.
@@craigmccall7450 he’s so smooth you barely see it lol
This is true 100% I've grown up in south Alabama racing and just about every track close to where Ive grown up (south Alabama, south Mississippi and north Florida) and when I always went to a gripped up nice non sandy track I was always way faster of a rider than most of the guys I was riding with. I love the sand I always have. I have more fun on a sandy track than a tacky well groomed track. Even my personal track at my house was a sandy track so I've grown up racing sandy tracks.
“Fuck i’m going so fast! -Smash- season done”
what a fucking legend. He should hang out with marquez.
During the conversation about sand and hard pack I realized that Sand riders are constantly restricted by drag all the time, during all motions. Although they are competitive AND that's part of it, they are also individually wanting to go faster on an internal level - fulfillment. Thats the feeling we all are seeking during riding and want to feel. When you surprise yourself during riding it is inspiring event and you want to do it again. The people who love that feeling is all of us.
Hardest race I’ve ever been in was the Florida GNCC. Hip deep sand woops for 12 miles.
Yeah, raced FTR in Florida for years......and all the GNCC's there. Had to learn how to hit those whoops hard . But 12 miles of them each lap gets crazy old.
Fastest guy I ever had blast past me was Kenny Keylon....the Sand Master. Look him up.
Hearling at bunbury would be mad to watch. Hearling at manjimup would be scary to watch.
First time I rode a sand track in Holland I went straight over the bars after the first jump...fucking thing dug in like fuck soon learnt to lower the back raise the front don't touch the brakes and rail what you can ...after going over there for a couple of years attending the odd race here and there getting smoked by everyone you pick up some good moves and do progress...fitness major factor ..if you're not fit you will crash big time ..if your suspension is crap you will crash big time ...your tires never wear out but your engine does ..but in my opinion the best type of riding there is ( don't like those big ass jump tracks )
I move to florida an much to my surprise they were stunned i could ride sand...i love it...i used ti ride in a sand pit everyday after school in new jersey its just more fun when the bike is freer an moves around plus falling is not as bad it kinda like mat in gynastic...just fun...buy you can an have to be more aggressive...the pit i rode in had every thing pavement gravel hard pack then i go off that stuff flying into the sand so i road for different surfaces each lap...
Sand tracks are a different breed for sure, because you always have to be wide open, ain't no way you can go through sand fast in the midrange, and once you make a mistake and shut off you're done, because there's no inertia in the sand. That's what makes it so tricky, and how long can you go full throttle? It takes one hiccup, one crossrut or missed trajectory in the turn and you're dug in miserably. Sand tracks separate the men from the boys, no doubt. You have to be 100% on your A game to be competitive in the sand, fitness, form, technique, it takes it all.
im dutch and here there are heavy and light tracks . people who only go to the light harder tracks get frowned upon like 'yeah on hard rock you can ride untill you get sand '
That's the way I feel loved in south Florida my whole life all the tracks are sand other than hard rock and they had a nasty sand track. I remember going to hardrock my first time on my yz250 it felt way faster
jase is a smart guy, he's got interesting thoughts
Yep, got to get up on top of the sand. Constant front wheel wobble, get used to it.
Yep, keyword to to sand is " momentum".
Wish JH 84 would come to America 🇺🇸 soon 🤘
As an mx fan from early 90s... tomac fan over the last 5 yrs. So good to see Herlings showing respect to tomac. Fyi herlings is so nasty that maybe tomac beast mode ride in the 2nd moto might not be enough.
Couldn't agree more. If you just read the headlines of these interviews you'd assume JH is just being cocky and calling him out but nothing could be further from the truth. Was shocked at the level of respect he's shown ET3. As they say, real recognizes real
Sooo Good 👊😉
Would love to see Jeffrey at gopher dunes in the Canadian triple crown series gnarliest sand track in Canada
So, riding in sand for Herlings is basically like doing two 40 minute supercross races!
250f in sand is not a turd, if you can ride sand that is - 125 too - it is ability - not displacement
Yup, watch the 85's and 125's in Holland
herlings looks like matt from wtf1s championship winning brother
I was always more fearless in the sand because in my mind it wouldn’t hurt if I crashed.
I tested this theory out multiple times. Can confirm it hurts 🤣
*wouldn’t hurt as much. Crashing is like Biden does his job. Shitty.
@@nathancrittenden8525 broke my shoulder on sand whoops got the huck a buck lol
KTM 350 fourstroke perfect for most weekend worriers ✌🏽 😎😎✌🏽
I bet that dude goes through a lot of parts. Private sand track in his backyard
It's not a bad hypothesis. What i find hilarious is when Jeffrey basically all but dismisses it(in a polite way) as being an accurate description of his experience, Jace is so convinced he was onto something he just ignores it and instead chooses to pretend he's agreeing with him. Classic example of selective hearing/confirmation bias. Haha
These interviews are making it really hard not to like Herlings. To be honest I can't even remember why I don't want to like him. I guess it's that "Our Guy" "Their Guy" thing?
Makes it super easy…just double and triple everything…
I think those who dont ride sand when they get in sand they dont seem to try to work an flow witj the sand they fight it...an thats why they struggle they need to be at peace with it an just flow with it but i think they fite it...
Conor McGregor would definitely beat Herling's around Lommel! ✊ 💨
Watch JH on a sand track and he doesn't cover the Front brake but uses the clutch heavy as a throttle and then rails the outside lines and controls speed with the rear brake, stands on the balls of the feet relaxed and pre jumps and takes the speed out so no height but real speed.
While I've admittedly never watched/analyzed closely, i find it hard to believe any professional would primarily use only one brake(especially the rear brake which lacks the stopping power of front brake). I could be wrong but I'd venture to guess he's heavy throttle, uses the clutch to control TORQUE, and BOTH brakes to control speed. This is definitely an apt description for ET3's riding style hence the reason a factory clutch is good for one whole gate drop.
@@JFred2 I rode Zandvoort and the riders there carry as much speed as possible as the sand slows you all the time and the front has too stay light so if you apply front brake the sand sucks you in and the front becomes heavy so arm pump and fatigue set in. On RUclips title So fast the bullet Jeffery Herlings raw practice. Watch very closely.
@@evo5349 That's a valid point i guess i was talking more in general terms. But yea since they were discussing sand specifically and though I've never ridden a legit sand track i do know it's pretty much universally accepted it's critical not to bury your front tire which front brake would definitely do. So makes sense and i stand corrected...
@@JFred2 I have raced for 25 years and sand is the most fun but the ardest too master. Hawkstone Park sand is so different and just digs square edge holes so much so I snapped the damping rod in my Kawasaki 250 Kayaba forks. The Dutch sand like Leriop is so rough but with a soft bottom and I would say is the hardest as the holes where about a meter deep and so hard on the legs and Everts was so fast there but if you seen his calf mussels where so big his boots where made just for him. Zandvoort was beach sand just soft unless it rained then it was better. Joel Smets is a very good sand rider.
Wow i make my comment when its fresh in me mind an jeff got to the end said the same thing...what da firk...why fite it
i wonder if stefan everts had anything to do with this bullet in sand i suppized his name was not mentioned in this pod cast
It was mentioned. Mostly when comparing him to Carmichael
Come on jeffrey, you was on a factory suzuki when you was on a 85, max anstie was on shit stuff but you wasn't
The 85 wasn’t a factory bike , he rode for a local shop nearby called laurensemotors.
far from factory
@@richardthoonsen8206 he was factory backed,
Yooooo
But of how trendy is “ gypsy”.
He’s so trendy guys, like he’s a real life bootyist”.
That’s right he worships bootys.
“ gypsy gang”
Love the originality of literally copying another channel and within a years time. Kinda shameful
Not sure what you mean man?