The reason it works with missile is the synergy between adams abilities and swift. It boosts the auto attack and gives an extra auto aytack every second while taking damage. The reason it works with air is because lucius is surviving longer, boosting the overall energy resistance to the squad. Schuyler targets back row, dva targets all 5 and morrison is random, so being front row actually reduces the damage recieved during the ability volleys
Yes, we have been examining Adams skills and notice what he can do with those heroes in the front row. With that said, I'm still trying to figure out if missle is the exception to the rule where the shield need to go in the back row. I'm not sure if I have his skills high enough yet.
Thanks for the time u put into your detailed videos … My server has not even started season 1 . So your videos for us in the beginning of the time line are so very helpful , Thanks
I think in order for this to work with either Kim or DVA is that the exclusive weapon has to be super strong. I’ve seen people try it and fail miserably.
I’ve been testing this for a few weeks in 599. The skill chips have changed so the defense boosts are quite massive. The main focus of this testing has been w missile with Adam. My preference is Tesla swift front with Adam Lucious Fiona/mcgregor back. Keeps the front line alive, also dodges the back line damage and stuns. And Adam’s active seems to be blasting counters more than once a second. Also x-weapons are giving a nice boost to dmg reduction as well
Hi Joe, i believe this is because putting DVA up front immunes DVA from tatics damage dealt on the back 3 (less dmg recived overall , while allowing dva more time to impart damage on the enemy. I think this strategy is only effective with strong exclusive weapons and red gear such that the hero is overall much stronger in all aspects including hp and def, than the defender being replaced
It's not that simple, because normally the attackers have lower resistance and HP compared to defenders, so placing them up front eliminates them more quickly and then you don't have any hero that is capable of actually dealing significant damage.
Tested with 4-1 tank team with lucius. It worked with 100 more damage which is enough to win close fights Front row: Williams -> kim Back row: Stetman -> Marshal -> lucius
@Lastwartipsandtricks where? I looked at the full description and transcript. I looked up and down your RUclips page. I don't see a discord link anywhere
Does this work only when you're both using the same heroes type ? For example. If i use a Tank Squad like this : Murphy + Kim ( front ) Willson + Stetman + Marshal ( behind ) And give my best equipment all to Kim . And then my best leftover defense equipment to Murphy . Then distribute the rest of equipments fairly ... And then i come up across a squad of someone using missile vehicles or Aircraft . Would i still be doing better than i would have if i had put Kim in the back ?
Murphy: cannon lvl 10 armor lvl 20 chip lvl 10 radar lvl 20 Williams: same as murphy Dva: cannon lvl 40 and one star armor lvl 10 chip lvl 20 radar lvl 20 Kimberley: same as dva Stentman/marshall: same as dva but with chip lvl 10 I see that it is making a lot of difference even with someone 0.5M less power who only has kimberley with cannon lvl 40 with all the same and dva and the other was behind at 40 without stars or even at a lower level and they beat me even if I am slightly more powerful in drone and technology and other things. As a next step I wanted to bring the chip of kimberley to lvl 40 with one star but at this point I don't know if I should dismantle some armor and increase kimberley to the maximum. What do you recommend as a progression?
Is this lineup effective against similar power tank squad as well? As can be seen Its equivalent to a much higher power setup than a normal missile squad setup.
My guess as to why that works for Missiles (not applicable to Aircrafts though) is Tesla's Tactical Skill, which targets the 3 back row heroes, so it leaves Swift and McGregor unaffected. But, there are also multiple factors that come into play. Gear, Technology, Morale, Drone, Drone Chips, all of them play a unique role, and you can't get them equal to another player's, to exclude them from the equation. Plus, you get critical hits, which are based on probabilities...
It works with air armies because you are able to put DVA on the front right side and Morisson behind her, this allows you to stack the two main damage dealers on this side which is usually across from the enemy's weaker defender (Murphy, Lucius and Adam)
It's really only beneficial against air or missiles because it prevents Schuyler's stun and Tesla back row scorch skills from hitting your strongest attacker.
I know the reason that works, because we discovered this tactic a few weeks ago. It works best with missiles, and you're actually not using the best setup in the video for it.
@@LastwartipsandtricksFront left: McGregor, front right: Tesla, back left: Adam, back middle: Swift, back right: Fiona. It works when the non-self defense hero is on the weak side of the defending team, because that hero has the team buff. Murphy gives the team Physical DR and Lucius Energy DR. By placing Tesla and Fiona on the right paired up against that hero, you get 2:1 attackers. The reason this works best with the missile squad is Swifts auto-attack targeting. After the first AA from Tesla and Fiona, Swift will switch from the back middle default target (strong-side defender) to the hero with the lowest HP. This means you get 3 attackers hitting the defender that doesn't have a self DR buff. You wipe out the team DR buff from that hero sometimes before the first tactics around, and the your tactics fire and do max damage to the enemy team.
The reason it works with missile is the synergy between adams abilities and swift. It boosts the auto attack and gives an extra auto aytack every second while taking damage. The reason it works with air is because lucius is surviving longer, boosting the overall energy resistance to the squad. Schuyler targets back row, dva targets all 5 and morrison is random, so being front row actually reduces the damage recieved during the ability volleys
Yes, we have been examining Adams skills and notice what he can do with those heroes in the front row. With that said, I'm still trying to figure out if missle is the exception to the rule where the shield need to go in the back row. I'm not sure if I have his skills high enough yet.
Hey man what's ur level on the game ? It seems like you know what you're talking about tbh
Yeah Lucius needs to stay alive for that shield. I’m gonna run some test this is interesting stuff
It also works good because carlies weapon targets the back row. So you remove swift from that weapon effect
Thanks for the time u put into your detailed videos … My server has not even started season 1 . So your videos for us in the beginning of the time line are so very helpful , Thanks
@@devinmorin3389 do me a favor. Come find me on 382 and share your server with me. I would love to post videos there
I think in order for this to work with either Kim or DVA is that the exclusive weapon has to be super strong. I’ve seen people try it and fail miserably.
I’ve been testing this for a few weeks in 599. The skill chips have changed so the defense boosts are quite massive. The main focus of this testing has been w missile with Adam. My preference is Tesla swift front with Adam Lucious Fiona/mcgregor back. Keeps the front line alive, also dodges the back line damage and stuns. And Adam’s active seems to be blasting counters more than once a second. Also x-weapons are giving a nice boost to dmg reduction as well
@@eagledangerous726 please find me on 382 and send me a link to your server. I would love to post new videos on your WC
Dont you think that siege and defense fort tech is also playing a part in the outcomes between attacking and defending?
Hi Joe, i believe this is because putting DVA up front immunes DVA from tatics damage dealt on the back 3 (less dmg recived overall , while allowing dva more time to impart damage on the enemy. I think this strategy is only effective with strong exclusive weapons and red gear such that the hero is overall much stronger in all aspects including hp and def, than the defender being replaced
That makes a lot of sense.
@@Lastwartipsandtricks cheers
Really interesting thanks for the video Joe see you on the next video
Its because your shield heroes are staying longer alive so their buffs apply longer on your whole squad. If they were up front they die earlier.
It's not that simple, because normally the attackers have lower resistance and HP compared to defenders, so placing them up front eliminates them more quickly and then you don't have any hero that is capable of actually dealing significant damage.
Tested with 4-1 tank team with lucius.
It worked with 100 more damage which is enough to win close fights
Front row: Williams -> kim
Back row: Stetman -> Marshal -> lucius
Wait what ?
Why would u put an Aircraft player in a tank lineup ?
You're losing a 20% Buff perk
@ energy damage reduction.
@@SCD_Recommendation_SecretIsSad more energy damage reduction
Is there a way to contact you over Discord?
Yep. Discord channel is linked
@Lastwartipsandtricks where? I looked at the full description and transcript. I looked up and down your RUclips page. I don't see a discord link anywhere
Does this work only when you're both using the same heroes type ?
For example. If i use a Tank Squad like this :
Murphy + Kim ( front )
Willson + Stetman + Marshal ( behind )
And give my best equipment all to Kim . And then my best leftover defense equipment to Murphy .
Then distribute the rest of equipments fairly ...
And then i come up across a squad of someone using missile vehicles or Aircraft .
Would i still be doing better than i would have if i had put Kim in the back ?
Murphy: cannon lvl 10 armor lvl 20 chip lvl 10 radar lvl 20
Williams: same as murphy
Dva: cannon lvl 40 and one star armor lvl 10 chip lvl 20 radar lvl 20
Kimberley: same as dva
Stentman/marshall: same as dva but with chip lvl 10
I see that it is making a lot of difference even with someone 0.5M less power who only has kimberley with cannon lvl 40 with all the same and dva and the other was behind at 40 without stars or even at a lower level and they beat me even if I am slightly more powerful in drone and technology and other things. As a next step I wanted to bring the chip of kimberley to lvl 40 with one star but at this point I don't know if I should dismantle some armor and increase kimberley to the maximum. What do you recommend as a progression?
Hi , what is your main squad lineup? May you share it?
Currently Missile
Is this lineup effective against similar power tank squad as well? As can be seen Its equivalent to a much higher power setup than a normal missile squad setup.
What's the best counter to Kim? Carlie?
Good question. Lots of variables but Lucius seems to be the best
Make more videos about this , i like learn more, my ac missile both around 24 mil and 22 and i want to use this strategy in a correct way .
Its the skill level. Either the skill level affects all heroes or the backrow heroes. I havent seen a skill level that affects the front row.
Is there a community or DC community?
Yes. It is linked in my videos
@@Lastwartipsandtricks Sorry, I didn't see the link, where is he, I want to create a partnership with you
@@SonicTOPUP discord.gg/gyzxqfdm
My guess as to why that works for Missiles (not applicable to Aircrafts though) is Tesla's Tactical Skill, which targets the 3 back row heroes, so it leaves Swift and McGregor unaffected. But, there are also multiple factors that come into play. Gear, Technology, Morale, Drone, Drone Chips, all of them play a unique role, and you can't get them equal to another player's, to exclude them from the equation. Plus, you get critical hits, which are based on probabilities...
Very possible
This only works because of Adam's counter and Swift's auto attack being more powerful than usual. Won't work with other squads!
It works with air armies because you are able to put DVA on the front right side and Morisson behind her, this allows you to stack the two main damage dealers on this side which is usually across from the enemy's weaker defender (Murphy, Lucius and Adam)
So is this only really effective at 5 stars ?
@@Yamas258 you have to get a hero to 5 stars to be able to use the weapon
This is only effective after spending 50k dollars 😂
How long did it take you to build such a strong squad?
10 months
Where do you enter codes that I don't see in other games
I do not understand the question
It's like "Happy2024" cheat code like you typed in world chat
Just think how much money you would have if you didn’t spend it all on this game 😂
I do fine😂
@ I just started 2 months ago and I’ve been spending 😂
only works with adam. swift gets extra hits becauase of adam's ultimate.
I havent tested this but i csnt imagine this working too well with air. Itll weaken you severely against tsnks
It's really only beneficial against air or missiles because it prevents Schuyler's stun and Tesla back row scorch skills from hitting your strongest attacker.
I know the reason that works, because we discovered this tactic a few weeks ago. It works best with missiles, and you're actually not using the best setup in the video for it.
Please tell us more. I have tested all setups and this is what worked best. I love to learn though
@@LastwartipsandtricksFront left: McGregor, front right: Tesla, back left: Adam, back middle: Swift, back right: Fiona.
It works when the non-self defense hero is on the weak side of the defending team, because that hero has the team buff. Murphy gives the team Physical DR and Lucius Energy DR. By placing Tesla and Fiona on the right paired up against that hero, you get 2:1 attackers. The reason this works best with the missile squad is Swifts auto-attack targeting. After the first AA from Tesla and Fiona, Swift will switch from the back middle default target (strong-side defender) to the hero with the lowest HP. This means you get 3 attackers hitting the defender that doesn't have a self DR buff. You wipe out the team DR buff from that hero sometimes before the first tactics around, and the your tactics fire and do max damage to the enemy team.
@@Paranemecisn’t that lineup the exact one in the first matchup of this video where he loses?
can you reply me?
Hi!
Meowpenguin?
Who?😂
what the hell
Hmm?😂