How NOT To Introduce Deadpool
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2023
- Theres no question when Deadpool was first introduced on screen in X-Men Origins: Wolverine fans everywhere were extremely disappointed in this portrayal of the Merc with a Mouth. Luckily after a leaked proof of concept, Deadpool was finally given the respect he deserved on the big screen. But how exactly did the studio think first version of Deadpool would win audiences over?
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To be honest the first half of the movie where Ryan Reynolds swings swords and talks too much is not entirely bad. You can sense the potential in him. It's just everyone remembers the abomination at the end.
Him slicing the bullet is probably my favorite part. I remember watching the early release bootleg wit the homie back in the day and you could see the wires during that scene 😂 most of the VFX were unfinished actually
@@TheRealJahan you just admitted to a crime buddy. Time to call the FBI
@@Carloszavalalol he deserves 100 years in prison
@@TheRealJahan you will swing for that.
@@TheRealJahan Him trying to do it again in Deadpool and completely messing it up is the perfect Easter egg
him "cleaning up the timeline" was the funniest shit
look where it got him lol
It’s to show us how much Ryan hated that version of Deadpool and that he knows how ass Green Lantern was
"This character's most prominent gimmick is being mouthy."
"Yeah, let's shut him up."
"That'll sure surprise the audience!"
Ryan Reynolds was born for this character. Nobody can play it better than him
Nah Deadpool Was born for Ryan Reynolds Role. They Both are so perfect Friends Don't they?
Only one who comes close is Nolan North. I'd love to see him in a big-screen take on Deadpool Kills Deadpool with Ryan Reynolds.
I’m convinced that Ryan Reynolds is just our universes Wade Wilson Variant
Just like Wolverine for Hugh Jackman.
i can
I can't believe the first Deadpool movie taught the lesson of adapting properties to live action, and then we still got uncharted by sony and halo by paramount
Please, let's forget about Halo by Paramount 😂. It's not real...
Uncharted was a great action movie. as long as youve never played the games.
@@GriffinGameznah it was still a shit movie regardless
I remember when my friends and I saw Deadpool 2 and when Deadpool he shot his X-Men Origins counterpart, the theater was filled with laughter! 😂😂🤣😂
honestly, i think if they had made a Gambit movie 30 years ago, Harry Connick Jr. would have been absolutely perfect to play him
I couldn't stop laughing
I almost fell out of my seat 😂
Best part is how he just kept shooting him. Over and over again 🤣
The worst part about the XMen Origins is that they introduce us to the perfect Wade Wilson to us, making the people who know Deadpool excited. All they had to do was give him a healing factor and face that even a mother would puke at to make him the perfect Deadpool, but they decided to make that Thing.
He did have superpowers just not the Wolverine healing type but a minor version of it , that's why he was in the team along with the other mutants & that's why he adapted so well to the Other mutant genes added over his. Thought that was pretty obvious when u watch the movie since sabertooth had donated his DNA to give Wade the healing factor a boost to survive the Adamantium process so the first power he got was sabertooth / wolverines healing.
@@ak-ub1ym shut up man
The teleportation isn't totally inaccurate either. He just needed some bigger pockets :P
Not to be confused with The Thing, who is also much more likeable than that Thing (Deadpool)
Actually I thought it was good. Considering that lots of the powers Deadpool had in that movie likely got destroyed in the end by him being decapitated and the powers were not natural. So all that he would have had in the end was the healing factor. Might not have been true to source material, but was in my opinion a good introduction to how Deadpool became ugly. The backlash was likely ok, but I would have been interested in a second origins wolverine movie where maybe wade meets wolverine and tries to apologize but instead finds Logan who was shot in the head and doesn't remember. A movie with how Logan ends up at the bar in the first X-Men movie. Too late for this now though, especially with Disney owning it. The remake for wade cleaning up his timeline was ok but it leaves plot holes in the fan favorite wolverine storyline. Plot holes that once again will never be answered thanks to days of future past movie.
I wish all the xmen films were like the deadpool ones, not necessarily being rated R, but just with how they wholeheartedly embrace the comic-bookness
Sorry bro. 2015 was the last year of greatness.
@@LOLzum101 what came out that year?
@@Icemario87 it wasn't that anything massive and great came out, it's more that's when the Hollywood market started to be over saturated with over hyped over marketed woke garbage.
Yeah that's why I could never get into the MCU, it always felt like it was scared of the source material
@@alchemistofsteel8099 they just used and abused the source material to make something that benefits them. They would slap anger management problems and a green hue on to a fish and call It a day if they thought it would bring them money.
The “merc with a mouth” without a mouth would be like having Aquaman not be able to swim, Batman being afraid of the dark, or Spider-Man being afraid of heights
There’s usually at least a handful of people that accept a bad creative decision for a character. This wasn’t one of those times. Literally everyone hated what they did to Deadpool.
And why wouldn't they? He's supposed to be the Merc with a Mouth, not Michael fucking Myers!
heat vision was crazy
I saw at least one person in this comment section that was happy with it
True, with how they treated Deadpool at first wasn't the best! Though I'd argue that sometimes personal taste just plays a role (and some creative decisions can be understandable especially if they can't adapt everything from one medium to another 1-to-1). For example, I'm a fan of the Sandman/Lucifer comics, but have still been able to enjoy the Fox/Netflix TV show of Lucifer since there's a lot of parts in the comics that would have made networks sweat bullets... 0_0
Also, there can be times when an adaptation going against their source material works, like with The Boys show!
deadpool in origins is more like metallo from dc than deadpool
Ryan Reynolds before the transformation scene still rocked as Deadpool, and no one was upset when he came to stay as Deadpool
I love how they killed off the Xmen Origins Deadpool for a fourth wall break gag in Deadpool 2
I like to think that the guy who first suggested removing his mouth is just naturally chaotic neutral and knew it would piss us all off. Because that I can respect lol
I've never been able to fully doubt that it was a troll, and am surprised that angle really doesn't get brought up when it's shit on. They not only "shut up" the Merc with a Mouth; they *removed his literal fucking mouth* . It's the primary feature of his physical appearance! Plus of course some of the other stuff. Far from being ridiculously overpowered, the "real" Wade's humanness beyond his healing factor is key to his appeal. And of course he covers up every square inch of his skin to hide his hideous scarring; whereas this Wade to the contrary pointedly exposes *all* his skin from his waist up, for no apparent reason besides showing off how slick, smooth and flawless it is. And so forth. Rian Johnson's got nothing as a troll on this movie's final scene; no one ever came close to this "subverting of expectations"!
That person who forced Deadpool's mouth shut is Tom Rothman. He was a Top Executive at Fox (One of the big heads that got Titanic to be one of the highest grossing movies) and insisted that the X-Men movies would bomb (But in the end the first 2 X-Men movies were a huge success). He didn't like being proven wrong, which is the reason the Deadpool movie had a hardtime getting Greenlit for production, because he prevented it out of spite. He's also the reason X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine were so bad, because he constantly clashed with the director on both movies.
Deadpool finally got through once someone anonymous leaked the test footage of the Deadpool movie AND Rothman was long gone by then so whatever influence he still had, he couldn't prevent the Deadpool movie from being made and becoming, the highest grossing R-rated movie around that time.
@@aleksikoivuporras3781 Isn't it amazing how those uber reach uber powerful people frequently have the most massive case of overcompensating a micropenis syndrome on a level almost unimaginable by normal people? Like, dude, you're already rich, already achieved successes in life and career that few have had and will have... why the fuck be like this? Perkele!
@@aleksikoivuporras3781 This is what envy and covetousness is all about. Causing destruction because you hate to see another succeed. Some people mistake this for greed, but it is not greed, at all.
Good thing I didn't know who Deadpool was when I watched this movie
When I first saw this movie, my jaw dropped when I saw how they were introducing Wade Wilson. Then I actually considered leaving the theater entirely when "Deadpool" showed up, but I figured the movie was almost over, and so that was that. Anyway, I sometimes get the sense that no matter what the writers or studios say, I feel like they just hate some characters for whatever reason. For example, saying "We wanted to surprise you! ..... ..... Surprise!!!" is just another way of saying "I hated this character and never wanted to use him in the first place!" Or, at the very least, the writers just didn't really know nor understand who the character was. And to them, who cares? The movie was about Wolverine. I guarantee they seriously thought few would care.
You are right though. There was a Fox executive who did not like the deadpool character and didn't want him on screen. (the same executive did not like sentinels and that is why they didn't show up in the movies until that higher up left Fox)
It's malice aforethought. your inner innocent child doesn't want to see it for what it is
Disney must really hate spiderman then
It's actually impressive how inept the director and screenwriter were for this movie.
And guess who was the screenwriter? No one else but David "I fucked up Game of thrones" Benioff, hack (my daddy was head of Goldman Sachs and got me these jobs) nepobaby extraordinaire.
Got a mint mobile ad in the middle of this and didn't realize it was an add for a second
"We hope to surprise you" that was like asking for a PS5 and getting Mario teaches typing 😅
The X Men movies are so hit and miss
@@somerandoladThat’s definitely not true. Some? Yes. All? Hell no 💀
Y’all need to stop finding any excuse to shit on MCU movies every chance you get.
Agreed. My favourites are Xmen First Class and Days of Future Past. Wish the recent one were better. Still a fan of the franchise 😊
X-Men, X-2, First Class, DOFP 👌
@@jonathanacosta36 the X-men films weren’t MCU films, they’re from an entirely different continuity
@@jonathanacosta36 Shitting on movies for the right causes is never wrong. Shitting for the wrong causes is a problem.
If that's the endpoint of where they wanted to go, there was a simple change they could have made: call him Mimic
I remember a conversation about a Gambit solo film, first with Taylor Kitsch reprising his role (😂), then with Channing Tatum taking over (😂). As great as Gambit is, we were all spared another X-Men Origins.
😂😂 i remember that!
No way in hell Channing can play a Gambit character ever just like Dwayne Rock can't play as Black Adam
@@jermonejackson8437 I don't think dwayne didn't play a black adam. He plays the JSA version comics imo pretty decently... probablem is that they're bringinig some of that personalty to the new 52 version sans his baggage, and also the fight correography is plenty generic (but the man can follow a good one if given to him, literally how he built hs career), and the script is bascally "black adam is major secondary character, but the movie is about everything else around him, but we keep hm on screen over those plots the movie is actually about anyway". Ain't enough ability to play (a specific verson of) character A, B or C that can offset that stacked deck.
The best scene with Deadpool is the one nobody noticed. When he walks into the bar at the beginning of the first film the first person he greets is 'Puck' from Alpha Flight.
Thats Buck, not Puck from the comics. He is just a bar customer/merc who is friends with Wade. He also appears in DP2
Ah yes, they really nailed Shatterstar's big screen debut
It was a... SPLASH.
People were **dying** when he appeared
more like propellered
At least they kept the continuity with keeping Ryan Reynolds’s as Deadpool
The Man is literally Deadpool at this point.
If only studios listened to the fans more......
Oh gods, no. But do listen to passionate and talented creators (actors, writers, directors, everyone) who aren't just writing self insert and their teen quasi wet dream fanfic, but actual well made stories for characaters they do love and respect. Those, yeah, they should listen more of those, but they're really just about the box office - doesn't matter if it is shit, if you can pull enough marketing strings to get more butts in seats and more merchandise, and more sign ups for streaming services, that is all they care.
@@louisvictor3473 where do you think passionate creators draw inspiration. lol
Ryan Reynolds himself warned them that this wouldn't work
MCU needs to take note on how to actually use the right character for comedy.
The primordial "subverting expectations".
It says alot when the few emotional scenes in the deadpool movies are more impacting then almost every marvel movie in recent times.
Ok but the teleport animation is pretty sick.
i mean i guess
Oooh yes I loved that 😮. My mind was blown.
YES, VERY SICK
YES, VERY SICK
That's the point they made. It's visually appealing but that's about it
I think if it wasn’t the character of Deadpool, but rather a new mutant they came up with, he could have been pretty cool and enjoyable. But because it is wade wilson and Deadpool, that’s where so much of the hate comes from.
it really is a big joy that we got this new version of Deadpool
now all is left to see how they bring back the wolverine
Why should they
@@albusnightspring8057 Because after marvel acquired the rights, we all know sooner or later they will want to make ther own mutant moviies. Besides, the mutants have had great comic runs (still the current Utopia ethnostate entire storyline to be absolute trash and a curse on the franchise, even if some nuggets of story can be pretty good when taken in complete isolatiion and you pretend it isnt involving the larger bad fanfic world they live iin now). There is so much potental for great live action takes on them, so why shouldnt more be made? A couple of good films involving them existing is no reason to make more. The same reason why the excellent 90s cartoon adaptation is no reason for Wolverine and the X-Men to not have been made, or why the excellent 90s spider cartoon which did feature a good arc of animated "spider-men from multiple dimensions" being no good reason not to make Into The Spiderverse.
Also, Deadpool 3 with Ryan + Hugh, my dude. If that doesn't sound like good reason enough, consult a pyschiatrist, a physician and a priest - you might be dead, either inside or literally.
@@albusnightspring8057 Surprise! Hugh Jackman is donning the comic-accurate Yellow Suit!
Hi I'm from the future and they actually brought back the wolverine
Deadpool 2 is one of the few sequels that is as good, if not better than the original movie, you can really tell with number 2 that they knew more about what people wanted and what they could get away with
Ryan Reynolds has had a more positive impact on superhero movies than anyone alive today.
thanks for reminding me to go watch the deadpool movies again
As soon as Ryan put on the costume and started being funny, it was like Deadpool jumped straight out of a comic book!
Kind of goes to show so many people in charge have no idea what they are doing and so many good ideas die if they don't find a way to make them listen
So the lesson is, shocker, listen to your fans more, hollywood! :P
Great video~
My personal favorite conspiracy theory is that x men deadpool was made just to make the scene where he kills his old version
Tim Miller left dp 2 over creative differences ? i didn't know that. And seeing what he did with terminator. Reynolds most likely made the right call.
Thank you, Ryan Reynolds, for going along to not get recasted
To be fair Deadpool 4th wall breaking in a serious X-Men movie would be really weird lol I think giving him separate slapstick movies is the right call. No matter what, I can't imagine a faithful version of him in any of the 2000s X-Men films, at least not with his 4th wall breaks in tact.
we definately need a horror movie (a24, blumhouse type movie) about ForgetMeNot, that mutant that has the power of being forgotten completely
i love deadpool to a point words cant express, but ive always seen the origins one as a "pre deadpool" as some of the creative team once said, i knew it was gonna be a shattered glass bottle in the shoes of the fandom, but i felt they did that on purpose so the foul mouthed deadpool wouldve been a treat and more of a hit, they even showed us a part of their direction going forward with him with the mouth opening and the 4th wallbreak, idk man it just got me more hyped, him being a straight up villain with none of his attributes, him overcoming them and becoming a comic accurate deadpool, a satisfying kind of winter soldier arc tbh
Biggest comeback for a character and actor in cinema. So much that I genuinely forgot Ryan played both Deadpools
I get the idea of making Deadpool look creepy without a mouth to make him seem like a scary “final boss”. If he was quipping the whole time while wearing his suit, it just wouldn’t feel like an “end of the movie boss". But yeah, it didn’t work XD
Funny that D&D were the scriptwriters for the Wolverine origins movie, who descended the final seasons of GAME OF THRONES into oblivion
This must be the greatest redemption story ever.
I love seeing how you guys cover pop culture characters in the cultural zeitgeist. You may want to see how Transformers More Than Meets the Eye and The Last Stand of the Wreckers capture the true nature of Autobots in the lead of Rise of the Beasts.
Oh! Or just cover Beast Wars!
Great video sir thanks 😊 🙏 I love deadpool and Ryan Reynolds he got a bad beginning from a studio who didn't understand the source material, 😀
this was fantastic!
So glad he got reborn after the events of Days of Future Past
Haha! I didn't even know about that post-credit scene.
I'm glad they let Reynolds actually get that proper shot. Best Marvel casting move yet.
Can't wait for number 3
I remember this movie leaked with some of the special effects not done.
For the most part I like origins and sometimes revisit it. If only they hadn't screwed up Deadpool so bad. I guess everything turned out fine tho because we still got Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool.
When the MCU debuts the x-men, i thought itd be cool if they did it as a Disney plus series, and make every episode of the first season a 30-60 minute long origin story for each of the main characters.
Yes with random commentary from Deadpool because they weren't in this universe to begin with
@@JayLew91like the lego game hes the narrator
The first half of origins was AMAZING
Seewing Deadpool's mouth is preventing him of being himself! Yes he's good with swords BUT his humor is what we love. Censoring one of the most brutal and impolite character is a bad idea. His jokes are part of him! Also, producers tried to censored him in the Deadpool 2 remake and it failed. Wade still says one FU or S**T in the movie. That prooves you can't stop the merch with a mouth 😂
I think this stage of Deadpool's birth into Wolverine was damned if you do, or don't and besides some radical concepts of him being almost alien and more crimson as a result of the procedure Stryker did, it was always a risky move and no one even paying homage to him with the markings could have worked.
Would love for them to FINALLY make a Gambit movie
Great video.
i mean to be fair his mouth is ripped open at the end so atleast he had one
we actually have to say thank you to ryan reynolds if it wasnt for him leaking the animation, making sure its r rated and working his ass off to be deadpool we might have never gotten a deadpool movie.
Its so funny for me to finally see the actual finished footage of the wolverine origins fight. The only version of that movie I ever watched as a kid was the leaked mid CGI rough cut of the movie. It was honestly 10x better in its unfinished state than experiencing the final version.
Honestly watching the movie as a kid i didnt even know that was deadpool. I thought it was just some small villian character to showcase wolverines fighting
i might go so far as to say this was the super meta way to intro DP because it makes the scene where he goes back in time and shoots himself like.. jokes don't pay off like that, you can't manufacture that level of happy accident - it was the Bob Ross moment of the marvel collection
okay even more so like, Ryan Reynolds making sure to cram (like that elevator was my earpussy) as much authentic DP into the abortion as possible like - not only is it clearly the strongest to the point of broken overpowered tier four mutant but he literally rips his mouth open for a fourth wall break
i wrote a character back when gene was the only t4 named element just because the monopoly annoyed me but we don't do original anymore so what even are we talking about this for
we couldn't have asked for a better Deadpool than Ryan Reynolds, I actually thought the character was made for him until I did the research
My little brother told me he loved the swords guy from wolverine that he was a fan when we watched it for the first time. Back then we weren't familiar with RR nor Deadpool! 🙌
This guy freaking snorted the fumes from the gun like anything ya smoke!
At least this movie gave us that bit in Deadpoool 2 where he tries to deflect bullets with his swords and gets shot. I thought that was funny
Now we are waiting for the first MCU deadpool/ wolverine three movie next year
Reynolds spent half of his career to be deadpool. This would never have happened without him. He even said no to high paying gigs.
When I see Deadpool's costume, he reminds me of Deathstroke and Spiderman
A fourth-wall break inside a fourth wall break is actually only 10 walls… I drew it out on graph paper and counted broken walls twice, one for each half 😁
I Cannot wait for Deadpool 3.
I never understood why film companies think because a bad movie did poorly a good movie of a similar type will also do poorly.
Honestly had they not failed so hard on the final “Deadpool” fight this movie wouldn’t be too bad. Tbh, it’s fairly enjoyable imo until that final fight where things just become an absurd CGI fever dream.
As someone who wasn’t even aware of the dead pool character when I watched the origin story his character and the reason why the ending fight was the way it was made sense. Didn’t really think about that aspect much, what stood out for me was the relationship between wolverine and his brother. Having watched the dead pool movie I love it and I enjoy Ryans cool sense of humour but to me that doesn’t take anything aways from origins movie I think that character had the appropriate purpose in it. Just my opinion.
I got a Mint Mobile (ya know, the Ryan Renolds commercials) before this video. 10/10
first deadpool film is a stronger one than the second in my opinion, first seemed to be more creative (probably die to th lower budget) and it seemed to focus on some details that i thought were cool such as Wade not directly breaking the fourth wall (he made meta references but never directly addressed the audience) BUT deadpool does... gave the 2 personas a different tone in a way allowing me to take character moments more seriously with wade because he was more often than not more grounded than deadpool
Fox: Actually listens to what the fans want to see.
MCU: "Hey, let's make the bad guy from Ant-Man 1 into M.O.D.O.K.!"
@@legostuds680 nah people just love to shit on the MCU at any chance they get now
Fox didn't listen to the fans, their X-men division was being run by a guy who HATED Deadpool.
One guy was to blame for everything. And the name of that man... is nowhere to be found here.
Are people really that clueless on production issues?
So glad Ryan Reynolds straightened the Character out regardless of Gavin Hood almost ruining the act. The weapon 11 wasn't remotely comically comparable. Great job keeping the true Deadpool alive Reynolds! 👊
Remember watching the X-Men, and everyone had to tell me after the movie that was Deadpool.. I was generally confused for years until the new movies came out.
Getting a Ryan Reynolds ‘Mint Mobile’ ad after the video was pretty 4th wall breaking, further proving his worth as DP
I little Easter egg in the film that a lot of people missed was when he said captain Deadpool witch is a dp variant.
I was 7 and still was like hey don’t Deadpool have a mouth😭
Correction: the test footage was released right after Comic Con. I remember hoping we’d get some Deadpool news and being disappointed that it didn’t happen (I was at that comic con) and then the test footage was leaked.
This has been talked to death
Deadpool 1 is perfeccccccccccccccccccccccccct!!!!!!!! I have never seen a marvel movie more perfect !!!!!
It’s really baffling why Hollywood consistently gets people to work on IP who are clearly embarrassed by the source material because they don’t understand it. Then they insist on changing it till it’s unrecognizable. Buddy, if you’re embarrassed by it, just don’t make it…
It’s funny how this was the best scene in the whole movie.
People seem to forget that Eartha Kitt played Catwoman in the third season of the TV show. So that movie with Halle Berry was not so far off the original script.
The footage was "mysteriously leaked", lol. That always made me chuckle. Come on, one of the producers or maybe Reynolds did it. All hush-hush, wink-wink, like
I think now we need MCU Kang thanking Deadpool clearing up the other version of Deadpool for helping the TVA.
Would be hilarious if at one point when they wrap up this kang business and (probably) a TVA gets established as a more benign agency (or at least presented as such because the writer believes their job can be done in a good way, personally I have my doubts), if we see some easter egg with an agent Wilson played by Ryan Reynolds receiving an employee of the year type award for sorting out all that dark timeline branch business.
Well props to Fox for screwing up and then making it right pretty quickly if you ask me
If we are taking into account that the Deadpool movies are set in the new altered timeline post- Days of Future Past, and Origins: Wolverine, X-men 1, X2, Last Stand, and The Wolverine never happened, Wade funnily enough still ends up becoming Deadpool in the new timeline just differently, and under different circumstances more accurately to how he is supposed to be than how he did in Origins: Wolverine. So his canon event is becoming Deadpool one way or another no matter how hard he tries to avoid it.
So i never knew the character of Deadpool when Wolverine Origins came out, but even I could make out that they botched Deadpool in the end of that movie because somehow that character felt wrong completely. At that time, i didn’t have easy internet with me. Cut to the first deadpool movie, and just then I realised what was the true Wade Wilson/Deadpool character. Bless that person’s heart who leaked that test footage of the first deadpool movie and Bless Ryan Reynolds for keeping and supercharging Deadpool.
woooo