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4:20 "Success" isn't necessarily achieved only at the end. Any machine that improves on the previous iterations without suffering some new crippling flaws can be considered a success. The fact that they're not satisfied with being just one or two incremental steps better than before and keep on pushing for significantly greater improvements is one of the big things separating these companies from the generally accepted way of doing things in the past.
The existing companies are doing the same, development in iterations. Only difference is the TBC are copying what they (Half a dozen TBM manufacturers around the world) progressed through 30 years ago. The difference is they are doing it in a fully commercial environment, meeting client deadlines and making a profit as they go.
shhhhht, don't tell them that they are absurd with the Musk love. Don't tell them that the Musk tunnels are also completely unsafe with no escape space, no escape tunnel, etc...
Seems to me that, unless you had offset pairs operating sequentially, you're still moving in stops and starts like an inchworm (correct me if I'm wrong ;?) To my mind what might work better would be a TRACK DRIVEN system - a quad-track setup with 4 equally spaced tracks could provide constant propulsion without pauses AND should also allow easy forward/reverse movement, which not sure the pusher system allows.
I see what you are saying, and you are right about the stop/start requirement, but is is a much quicker re-set on a main beam side gripper hard rock TBM (5 minutes maybe). Double sets and "tractor track" type propulsion has been experimented with in the past (last 40 years or so). The issue generally is that most people don't appreciate the very large forces involved in producing the forward thrust for a TBM. Side wall grippers require very competent rock, a large contact area, huge forward rams and even larger extension (push out) rams to achieve the huge forces involved. Second to that is the space requirements. Main beam, hard rock, small diameter gripper TBM's are very cramped for space due the the large components involved, pushing the support systems (hydraulics, drive motors, controls, etc etc) further away from the TBM back down the support gantries, this is made worse by the need for more hoses/pipes/cables etc. Which in turn take up more space. It is a law of very quickly diminishing returns trying to fit it all in. (This is why TBC can't just add more motors and power to the cutterhead, the thrust bulkheads and main bearing don't fit, not to mention the cutting discs etc.) It is a fine balancing act which gets optimized for each project depending on spacial constraints and ground conditions. Constant production is of little use as the cutterhead needs to be inspected and some of the tools (cutting discs) changed (4-6 hours work) every day in hard rock.
What’s curious is that European model semi trucks have flat noses for the tight city corners and thin and curvy roads of Europe, while American semi trucks have the more aerodynamic pushed out nose to both improve highway efficiency and improve straight line highway driving. It is interesting to see if Tesla will adjust how the semi looks for the standard reasons.
So it is the same diameter as Prufrock 3, about the same length, the same weight and produces the same forward thrust. Cutterhead configuration looks the same and it appears to be an EPB type machine. To be fair the articulation joint looks longer, so it may be designed to go round tighter curves, of course they will have to greatly reduce the thrust to do that (there is always a trade off).
Imagine you have a car factory, and you need to get cars to the other side of a freeway quickly. Oh, no problem, I'll just have my other company dig a giant tunnel under everything... damn.
You REALLY think that the excavated material is not already being used to make money? And that all companies bidding to make the tunnel don't take the revenue / cost analysis of the material type to make their bidding price?
Where the tailings have a value this value is always realized, usually by the Contractor as it is his risk. In most cases the tailings cost money to dispose of, sometimes they can be used for landfill/reclamation, but someone still has to pay the haulage cost. In rare cases where the tailings are competent high quality rock, they can be upcycled for aggregates, even occasionally used in the concrete manufacture for the tunnel linings and fit-out works, but this is fairly rare. They have never shown any rare earth or valuable mineral component that I am aware of. We did get some nice seabed artifacts from the screening plant of a Variable Density TBM in Hong Kong, I have a metal hook from an ancient sailing vessel sitting in a trophy cabinet right behind me.
Not the best thumbnail; we all know that the SPMT "trailer" isn't a trailer. Unfortunate photo - shades of Nikola... The CT works just fine, obviously. Hopefully that was fan made photoshop rather than a release by Tesla.
If they figure out how to build fast affordable tunnels, even if the dream of these being made for transportation doesn’t pan out, Boring Company will be worth an absolute fortune. So many cites would love new tunnels for infrastructure projects. This would be a company without rival.
Jules Verne. "All shall seek shelter under rocks or in caves " From Sodom and Gammorra fire lightning EMP's that flashed from the east and goes to the west. These are just the birthing pains. The mystery of the 7 crossings of our stars ecliptic in one rotation of the galactic bulge Jesus held in his hand not you or co2 is causing these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change END TIMES. Earth's increasing axial tilt magnetic north not you is thawing frozen CO2 in the Arctic and will cause the new moon to pull the oceans out and around the planet east to west as in the days of Noah. Repent believe in the word warnings of God our Father and be saved or
what a joke!!!! those other TBM manufacturers can make all sizes of TBM for all kinds of uses around the world! from sewages to utility tunnel to tunnel for both cars and trucks.... the boring tunnel company just makes tiny TBM which other manufacturers have been making for decades lol!!!!
cities around the world uses all kinds of tunnels and sizes there are even square shaped tunnels in Asia which is gaining more popularity. for pumped water hydro plants and many others.
TBC's Prufrock series of TBM's are all the same diameter (approximately 14 ft). Hence, if stacked vertically they would fit inside a starship. However, given their weight (Minimum 40T component parts) the starship would struggle to lift them off the launch pad. Even if they could carry the weight, the G-force on lift-off acceleration would cause the main bearing (A 40T, 3m diameter, 1.5m deep donut) to smash through the structure and the fuel tanks, which I assume would be a bad thing. Landing them on another planet would also be a bit of a challenge, but a problem way above my pay grade. Not sure what you would do with them once you get them there? Think of the supporting equipment, segments (need to send a lot of them too) , back-up, cutters, generators, grout plant, conveyors. And a 120T crane. Basically I don't think it is on the priority list for planning the Mars colonization. I could be wrong, after all, Thunderbirds took the "Mole" to the moon. Although I did question some aspects of their TBM design as it did have windows in it.
Chesed from Chesed Chicago is pronounced with the ch making the sound like you're clearing your throat, not the traditional ch sound. It's a Hebrew word meaning kindness.
It's possible that the number of ppl holding reservations are not buying Cybertrucks, and Tesla is opening the doors for others to jump the line because of this. Vehicles parked on lots eat up space and bring in no revenue for the company, so it might just be a bottom line business decision by Tesla.
I'm waiting to see if Tesla go for EMF FUSION drilling to vaparize matter in to ash and just suck up the material vapor to process the dust and see what yeld of metals you can find. I toally think QUAZE need to be invested in if they have a concept that works getting geothermal power is important.
@@carholic-sz3qv NASA ain't do shiet. congress won't aprove of anything they wanna do or give them the money too. congress will also demand they outsource everything to numerous companies across the country. including SpaceX.
It might be worth pointing out that the reason all the Musk companies (Amazon too) is able to iterate so quickly is because they use an AGILE development model. The rapid change at (Boring, SpaceX, Tesla) is because of teams using AGILE.
FWIW Elon is very clear that his companies are neither Lean nor Agile. The reason for this is because they're not copying what anyone else has done and instead take a first principles approach to solving problems. Truly that's what Lean/Agile are about so I do agree with describing their process as Agile :)
I remember couple years ago there was another company called Omaze doing the same thing, after the backlash they seized all their operations in united states. This is a highly illegal subject even Mr beast is under investigation for it.
still waiting for the high speed claims of underground transport...looks like a complete shyteshow to me. It is one thing to make up animations and never perform in reality which is musk's specialty. still waiting for the tesla semi that was going to replace rail...perhaps in a decade or three when battery tech evolves.
Honestly, battery technology improvements are pretty here already. It's just a matter of actually getting production set up now.🙄😒 As for the Telsa semi, the only reason Elon hasn't done it....his overshooting projects that, don't even have enough factories to produce all of his "projects". In my opinion, he should have kept his plans more "secret" to actually build those factories first. Then the public about it, so he can actually deliver. He has for cars and now "cyber trucks", but now he should worry about the Telsa semi....and or high risk losing good paying customers. Being the customers for those Telsa semi's are actual companies. Personally, I would have started there... before the "cyber truck".😒
0:30 Boring really look stupid now, China tests trains at 1000/kmh and Boring still didn't even manage one single project.... No need to have Boring it's already obsolete.
@@billweberx Chinese don't need tunnels for most part, so your right 1000kmh trains and no Boring tunnels... But when China needs holes in the mountains Ill bet you it's done at 1/5 the price of Boring.
@@JoelBergmark You can bet, but you'll lose. Standard infrastructure tunneling costs 10 times what the Boring company charges. China may be able to do it at 5X. It's not magic. The Boring tunnels are much smaller in diameter and the boring machines are much faster than any others in the world.
@@billweberx To you, why does drilling speed matter if the overall product concept is obsolete? There seem to be 0 use case where boring makes sense so far. It was an idea but the overall cost and slow rollout vs high speed train is a serious issue, or should tax payers be paying it just because?
That hitch had the entire weight of the truck dropped onto it , that's like 10x the vertical force that the hitch is rated for (1100 lbs). Break it, then try to yank on it with not even a recovery rope, it's going to fail.
@@billweberx cheaper TBM’s? No evidence of such. Cheaper than a same size tunnel? I don’t think so. Cheaper than a modern metro system moving millions of people a day? Yes, very much so. But my bicycle was even cheaper than a TBC tunnel.
We don’t really know about price as they don’t give out any information on the cost of their (4 so far) machines. EPB TBM’s of this size cost around US$8-12M depending on their complexity. The technology TBC are using is basic Earth Pressure Balance methods, with a couple of whistles and bells added. It is generally 30years behind current TBM technology. They have introduced remote control operations (Japan was doing. This 30 years ago), “porpoising” launch and recovery (used previously but only applicable in certain circumstances. Their machines are not faster (generally slower in fact) than the competitors in reality despite many unsubstantiated claims. Installed power is typical for this size machine etc etc. The Loop concept is only applicable on a very small scale and as yet they have not shown any methods to build on-off ramps needed to scale up the proposed system. The investors must be getting nervous about their $750m angel funding.
@@billweberx I will thanks. But my view of him does not answer the point of TBC building tunnels at a similar cost to similar size tunnels. My Toyota Yaris was a lot cheaper than a Tesla Cybertruck. Does that make it far better? It’s certainly a more direct comparison than a mass transit system to a TBC loop tunnel.
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"We'll have to dig a bit deeper..."
I see what you did there;)
“Heavy” was added when talking about metal bands, I agree with this addition and request you rock on!
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Good stuff, great audio too., I think everyone else's milestone charges look cooler than ours
Good job, great comment. Only multiple punctuation errors
The name brand is not a joke 😂😂😂😂😂
but it's a funny dad joke anyway.
4:20 "Success" isn't necessarily achieved only at the end. Any machine that improves on the previous iterations without suffering some new crippling flaws can be considered a success. The fact that they're not satisfied with being just one or two incremental steps better than before and keep on pushing for significantly greater improvements is one of the big things separating these companies from the generally accepted way of doing things in the past.
The existing companies are doing the same, development in iterations. Only difference is the TBC are copying what they (Half a dozen TBM manufacturers around the world) progressed through 30 years ago. The difference is they are doing it in a fully commercial environment, meeting client deadlines and making a profit as they go.
Gripper style TBMs only function in linerless hard rock tunnels. And they have existed for decades…
shhhhht, don't tell them that they are absurd with the Musk love.
Don't tell them that the Musk tunnels are also completely unsafe with no escape space, no escape tunnel, etc...
Seems to me that, unless you had offset pairs operating sequentially, you're still moving in stops and starts like an inchworm (correct me if I'm wrong ;?) To my mind what might work better would be a TRACK DRIVEN system - a quad-track setup with 4 equally spaced tracks could provide constant propulsion without pauses AND should also allow easy forward/reverse movement, which not sure the pusher system allows.
I see what you are saying, and you are right about the stop/start requirement, but is is a much quicker re-set on a main beam side gripper hard rock TBM (5 minutes maybe).
Double sets and "tractor track" type propulsion has been experimented with in the past (last 40 years or so). The issue generally is that most people don't appreciate the very large forces involved in producing the forward thrust for a TBM. Side wall grippers require very competent rock, a large contact area, huge forward rams and even larger extension (push out) rams to achieve the huge forces involved. Second to that is the space requirements. Main beam, hard rock, small diameter gripper TBM's are very cramped for space due the the large components involved, pushing the support systems (hydraulics, drive motors, controls, etc etc) further away from the TBM back down the support gantries, this is made worse by the need for more hoses/pipes/cables etc. Which in turn take up more space. It is a law of very quickly diminishing returns trying to fit it all in. (This is why TBC can't just add more motors and power to the cutterhead, the thrust bulkheads and main bearing don't fit, not to mention the cutting discs etc.) It is a fine balancing act which gets optimized for each project depending on spacial constraints and ground conditions.
Constant production is of little use as the cutterhead needs to be inspected and some of the tools (cutting discs) changed (4-6 hours work) every day in hard rock.
What’s curious is that European model semi trucks have flat noses for the tight city corners and thin and curvy roads of Europe, while American semi trucks have the more aerodynamic pushed out nose to both improve highway efficiency and improve straight line highway driving. It is interesting to see if Tesla will adjust how the semi looks for the standard reasons.
So it is the same diameter as Prufrock 3, about the same length, the same weight and produces the same forward thrust. Cutterhead configuration looks the same and it appears to be an EPB type machine. To be fair the articulation joint looks longer, so it may be designed to go round tighter curves, of course they will have to greatly reduce the thrust to do that (there is always a trade off).
Imagine you have a car factory, and you need to get cars to the other side of a freeway quickly. Oh, no problem, I'll just have my other company dig a giant tunnel under everything... damn.
too bad reality gets in the way of fantasy.
lol!!!!! its actually not difficult! in Europe they have passerels between buildings, tunnels, and even cable cars and other solutions.
the VW factory in Slovaky uses car cable to cross a highway, bridge.... its a much elegant and quite attractive solution.
Prufrock 10 x Starship v3 to Mars 🔥
The huge potential of The Boring Company is largely going under everyone's radar.
It's been on my radar for 7 years now. And all I see is distant green foggy blob showing no progress at all.
Prufrock 4 is NOT a gripper TBM.
Self evident from the photographs.
Gripper TBM’s only work in stable hard rock.
Sorry, never been able to be the first to comment on a video.
You do a great job, I watch most of your videos
If tailing were evaluated for precious metals…what a machine
You REALLY think that the excavated material is not already being used to make money?
And that all companies bidding to make the tunnel don't take the revenue / cost analysis of the material type to make their bidding price?
Where the tailings have a value this value is always realized, usually by the Contractor as it is his risk. In most cases the tailings cost money to dispose of, sometimes they can be used for landfill/reclamation, but someone still has to pay the haulage cost.
In rare cases where the tailings are competent high quality rock, they can be upcycled for aggregates, even occasionally used in the concrete manufacture for the tunnel linings and fit-out works, but this is fairly rare.
They have never shown any rare earth or valuable mineral component that I am aware of.
We did get some nice seabed artifacts from the screening plant of a Variable Density TBM in Hong Kong, I have a metal hook from an ancient sailing vessel sitting in a trophy cabinet right behind me.
They have 50,000 charging stations in Roseville? That's impressive.
Not the best thumbnail; we all know that the SPMT "trailer" isn't a trailer. Unfortunate photo - shades of Nikola... The CT works just fine, obviously. Hopefully that was fan made photoshop rather than a release by Tesla.
Interesting. Thanks.
If they figure out how to build fast affordable tunnels, even if the dream of these being made for transportation doesn’t pan out, Boring Company will be worth an absolute fortune. So many cites would love new tunnels for infrastructure projects. This would be a company without rival.
Jules Verne.
"All shall seek shelter under rocks or in caves
" From Sodom and Gammorra fire lightning EMP's that flashed from the east and goes to the west.
These are just the birthing pains.
The mystery of the 7 crossings of our stars ecliptic in one rotation of the galactic bulge Jesus held in his hand not you or co2 is causing these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change END TIMES.
Earth's increasing axial tilt magnetic north not you is thawing frozen CO2 in the Arctic and will cause the new moon to pull the oceans out and around the planet east to west as in the days of Noah.
Repent believe in the word warnings of God our Father and be saved or
what a joke!!!! those other TBM manufacturers can make all sizes of TBM for all kinds of uses around the world! from sewages to utility tunnel to tunnel for both cars and trucks.... the boring tunnel company just makes tiny TBM which other manufacturers have been making for decades lol!!!!
cities around the world uses all kinds of tunnels and sizes there are even square shaped tunnels in Asia which is gaining more popularity. for pumped water hydro plants and many others.
@@carholic-sz3qvthe question is cost not what companies can do now, but for how much
Go Elon. Thanks for good reporting.
I love how efficient, clear and straight to the point this channel is, congratulations for providing such quality videos guys
no its not its also full of BIAS.
@@carholic-sz3qv but still pretty clear
Thumbnail: Boring coming thru for the beleaguered British? (flag in cutter face)
Elon que dios te bendiga mucho amor ❣️💋 ❣️
why not just make trains?
You know Elon is going to explore the moon, Mars, etc for minerals. There's probably a Boring Machine on the moon already! lol
Show conhecimento e vida nos liberta amo e aprecio tudo que faz pela humanidade Deus o proteja sempre nosso próximo líder mundial
Is that a nuclear proof, it would be a big help when a war start.
Ticket purchased!!
Will it fit on a Falcon?
It may, but would definitely have to upgrade the chassis and suspension. Probably easier to fit it to an Impala. (see what I did there 🙂)
Best details.
Does Proofrock 4 fit within the Starship faring size?
TBC's Prufrock series of TBM's are all the same diameter (approximately 14 ft). Hence, if stacked vertically they would fit inside a starship.
However, given their weight (Minimum 40T component parts) the starship would struggle to lift them off the launch pad. Even if they could carry the weight, the G-force on lift-off acceleration would cause the main bearing (A 40T, 3m diameter, 1.5m deep donut) to smash through the structure and the fuel tanks, which I assume would be a bad thing.
Landing them on another planet would also be a bit of a challenge, but a problem way above my pay grade.
Not sure what you would do with them once you get them there? Think of the supporting equipment, segments (need to send a lot of them too) , back-up, cutters, generators, grout plant, conveyors. And a 120T crane.
Basically I don't think it is on the priority list for planning the Mars colonization.
I could be wrong, after all, Thunderbirds took the "Mole" to the moon. Although I did question some aspects of their TBM design as it did have windows in it.
👍🏾; Maybe the boring company will be one of the first shipments to the moon, and mars…
Nice
Chesed from Chesed Chicago is pronounced with the ch making the sound like you're clearing your throat, not the traditional ch sound. It's a Hebrew word meaning kindness.
At this point the joke writes itself given the topic
It's possible that the number of ppl holding reservations are not buying Cybertrucks, and Tesla is opening the doors for others to jump the line because of this. Vehicles parked on lots eat up space and bring in no revenue for the company, so it might just be a bottom line business decision by Tesla.
Goodnight 🌙💤 i
Sleeping
I'm waiting to see if Tesla go for EMF FUSION drilling to vaparize matter in to ash and just suck up the material vapor to process the dust and see what yeld of metals you can find.
I toally think QUAZE need to be invested in if they have a concept that works getting geothermal power is important.
good luck finding all the energy to "vaporise" matter lol!!!! what a fantasy youre living in these tesla people litteraly no Braincells.
In Texas they wil find calcium, carbon and oxygen.
boring company reveals update? Must be boring . . .
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I believe the Boring company will design a model for Mars. It would be important for colonization.
"Nurse".... "Nurse". I think Mr Tannberg has forgotten to take his pills again.
@davidsalisbury50 Western medicine medicated the crap out of people. It's amazing what one can do with a clear mind.
“797000 pounds” IN ENGLISH DOC HOW MANY SUVs IS THAT?
It's nice to no😊
should ask hamas how to dig tunnels faster
Elon support of Trump is just so embarrassing for him.
Biden's dismissal of Tesla, Space X and Musk is very embarrassing...
Which one of them?
bro come back to itsyeboi account
I think everything Elon is doing, he's doing just to settle a successful mars colony.
no! he is doing nothing! NASA is actually has been working on how to settle and survive on other planets lol!!!
@@carholic-sz3qv NASA ain't do shiet. congress won't aprove of anything they wanna do or give them the money too. congress will also demand they outsource everything to numerous companies across the country. including SpaceX.
A Boring video.😮
0:01 Are you blind? They look nothing alike.
Well this was Boring.
Would all be fine and dandy if Elon hadn't gone off the very deep end...
Canada cant get over "Losing" Elon to USA! lol
Los
It might be worth pointing out that the reason all the Musk companies (Amazon too) is able to iterate so quickly is because they use an AGILE development model. The rapid change at (Boring, SpaceX, Tesla) is because of teams using AGILE.
FWIW Elon is very clear that his companies are neither Lean nor Agile. The reason for this is because they're not copying what anyone else has done and instead take a first principles approach to solving problems. Truly that's what Lean/Agile are about so I do agree with describing their process as Agile :)
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What a raffle scam and is unlawful in the USA. No purchase necessary is the law in the USA.
I remember couple years ago there was another company called Omaze doing the same thing, after the backlash they seized all their operations in united states. This is a highly illegal subject even Mr beast is under investigation for it.
You still have to purchase the raffle ticket(s).
Elon is a hero
no! the engineers are hero.
4:04 Complete misinformation. 2/3rd's of SS iterations never flew or tested
The boring company is a shot jock
making an underground road is just beyond stupidity
After watching that dude demolish the Cybertruck, it's absolute garbage.. not worth the buck
And your comments on the destruction of the F150?
still waiting for the high speed claims of underground transport...looks like a complete shyteshow to me. It is one thing to make up animations and never perform in reality which is musk's specialty. still waiting for the tesla semi that was going to replace rail...perhaps in a decade or three when battery tech evolves.
Honestly, battery technology improvements are pretty here already. It's just a matter of actually getting production set up now.🙄😒
As for the Telsa semi, the only reason Elon hasn't done it....his overshooting projects that, don't even have enough factories to produce all of his "projects".
In my opinion, he should have kept his plans more "secret" to actually build those factories first. Then the public about it, so he can actually deliver. He has for cars and now "cyber trucks", but now he should worry about the Telsa semi....and or high risk losing good paying customers. Being the customers for those Telsa semi's are actual companies. Personally, I would have started there... before the "cyber truck".😒
0:30 Boring really look stupid now, China tests trains at 1000/kmh and Boring still didn't even manage one single project.... No need to have Boring it's already obsolete.
The Boring company makes tunnels at a fraction of the cost of the tunnels used by the Chinese high speed trains. Apples and oranges.
@@billweberx Chinese don't need tunnels for most part, so your right 1000kmh trains and no Boring tunnels... But when China needs holes in the mountains Ill bet you it's done at 1/5 the price of Boring.
@@JoelBergmark You can bet, but you'll lose. Standard infrastructure tunneling costs 10 times what the Boring company charges. China may be able to do it at 5X. It's not magic. The Boring tunnels are much smaller in diameter and the boring machines are much faster than any others in the world.
@@billweberx To you, why does drilling speed matter if the overall product concept is obsolete? There seem to be 0 use case where boring makes sense so far. It was an idea but the overall cost and slow rollout vs high speed train is a serious issue, or should tax payers be paying it just because?
even better in Asia they have developped rectangular boring machines to increase the types and capabilities of TBM for all kinds of projects.
I love this channels content, but PLEASE;
PLEASE USE AN AI VOICE GENERATOR!!
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After the whistlindiesel cybertruck test.. Noone should tow with it ever
Lol...give me a break. He smashed the rear frame dropping off those concrete culverts.
You can tow just fine with the cyber truck.
That hitch had the entire weight of the truck dropped onto it , that's like 10x the vertical force that the hitch is rated for (1100 lbs). Break it, then try to yank on it with not even a recovery rope, it's going to fail.
You let other people do your thinking for you don’t you?
truth or dare, PIN ME
How do Boring Co TBM’s compare to other TBM’s in the world.
Substantially cheaper.
@@billweberx cheaper TBM’s? No evidence of such.
Cheaper than a same size tunnel? I don’t think so.
Cheaper than a modern metro system moving millions of people a day? Yes, very much so.
But my bicycle was even cheaper than a TBC tunnel.
We don’t really know about price as they don’t give out any information on the cost of their (4 so far) machines.
EPB TBM’s of this size cost around US$8-12M depending on their complexity.
The technology TBC are using is basic Earth Pressure Balance methods, with a couple of whistles and bells added.
It is generally 30years behind current TBM technology.
They have introduced remote control operations (Japan was doing. This 30 years ago), “porpoising” launch and recovery (used previously but only applicable in certain circumstances.
Their machines are not faster (generally slower in fact) than the competitors in reality despite many unsubstantiated claims.
Installed power is typical for this size machine etc etc.
The Loop concept is only applicable on a very small scale and as yet they have not shown any methods to build on-off ramps needed to scale up the proposed system.
The investors must be getting nervous about their $750m angel funding.
@@davidsalisbury50 Continue living in your anti-Musk dream world.
@@billweberx I will thanks.
But my view of him does not answer the point of TBC building tunnels at a similar cost to similar size tunnels.
My Toyota Yaris was a lot cheaper than a Tesla Cybertruck.
Does that make it far better?
It’s certainly a more direct comparison than a mass transit system to a TBC loop tunnel.