Just in case you or anyone else doesn’t know: if you have an iPhone connected you can press the diagonal double-ended arrow next to the clock on CarPlay to make the CarPlay use more of the screen. None of the reviewers have mentioned it, but it’s important!
The spun bearing is becoming a real problem. They are trying really hard to keep it quiet and down play it, but it's more prevalent than what is being reported to the general public. There have been multiple Tundra's that have encountered the spun bearing even after the engine rebuilds. Definitely hold on to that 460!
@mikelaughlin270 Think the tundra engines are assembled in the U.S. as opposed to the lexus, which is built in Japan. I'm not sure if that will make a difference, though.
Truthfully I never ever never buy first year models. Takes a little while to hammer out the bugs that will invariably appear. I don't fault you I just follow that rule. Nice car. I own a GX 460.
Great video because the issues you take about would never be discussed in any press review. Only by living with the vehicle can you talk about the real issues unique to the car. Range is a real problem. My friends MBZ GLE 450 gets 500 miles per tank. Hood flutter is totally unacceptable in any Lexus.
Yeaaaaaah. The AC/Fuel tank issue sucks. The console was enough to put me off mentally for not having buttons, but that combined with fiddling around on a screen while driving in Texas summers with a new born is a no go for the price. I may wait for the hybrid, if I don't get something sooner. I appreciate your videos. Thanks.
Great video! My children are grown. The fuel range is no better than my 1995 Land Cruiser. 19 gallons and 230 miles. The wind buffering hood will need to be addressed. $69,000 and your hood is bouncing around is a major problem for buyers. Keep us updated. Cheers!
Never buy the first generation of anything. Engineers are not that smart nowadays to predict and figure out potential problems even with all of the clay models and wind tunnels and simulators provided by Toyota. The engineering sucks. $72,000 and your hood bounces in the wind like it about to fly off? That is pathetic!
First, let me say thank you for posting these videos. Your videos have presented the clearest picture of what any future owner might experience. Toyotas have had hood flutter for years . I’ve heard folks complain about it on the new Grand Highlanders (ie, TX) too. I’ve gotten used to it on my 4R, but it’s pretty chintzy, especially on a $75-80k vehicle. The more I see videos on these new GX the more I see it as a souped-up 4Runner for twice the price. From purely a utility standpoint, it’s a truck that’s basically the same size, gets basically the same fuel economy, etc. Besides ever-larger dash console screens (which I could care less about) I’m not sure what makes this so compelling. That said, good luck with yours and hopefully you will continue to post updates.
Thanks! Agree with most of your sentiment here, however the LC and new 4Runner didn’t appeal to me as I didn’t want to go down to 4cyl hybrid. Some folks in here are nervous about the TTV6 but so far so good
Hood flutter is due to it most likely having an aluminum hood. Bump stop adjustment can resolve this. If not try adding fuel line hosing inside the rubber seals that make contact with the hood. One runs horizontal along the back and two vertical along the sides. This helped tremendously with a vehicle I had hood flutter with.
Thank you for addressing the size of the fuel tank. I have not heard anyone speak about that yet! That is a huge miss for me. I do not want to be stopping to fuel up more than I already do.
Glad I could help! Yeah expect mid-200s for range in the city - the 2 gallon difference from the last gen GX460 is a bummer since the mpg is quite similar
Thanks! If your local dealer has one, I'd say definitely check it out. I'm ultimately very happy with the GX550 8 months into ownership. Some of these issues are resolved and I will post an update video before the year end
@@NorthoftheWallGarage They don't have the ceiling vents in overtrail trims, in addition to the lack of rear climate control. It's a non-starter for those with families, and doesn't make sense in the overtrail+, especially.
Thanks for mentioning the range, I was planning on "upgrading" my 460, but I won't if it's not 400 miles of range. My 4 runner only gets 310 miles of range and that is my biggest gripe with it.
thank you so much for the in-depth review on this vehicle! The actual livability was what I've been looking to find out and you answered most of my questions! congratulations on your ownership.
🎉 Hey 👋 congratulations on growing the RUclips channel and the large number of views and comments. I don’t even really want this vehicle, but I enjoyed listening to you and the way you did the video. Good job on the title thumbnail and the quick and easy hook also I liked how you just walk around with the camera, but I felt connected because I could see your reflection talking in the vehicle window. Not sure if you planned this, but wanted to give you feedback and let you know it was connecting and engaging. Great job good work keep it up 👍 💪💪💪💪💪💪
I remember I saw another video talking about the TNGA-F platform, not specific to GX550 but in general (I think it is talking about Tundra or Sequoia..). It mentioned the frame is narrow than the older one and thus caused the reduced size of the fuel tank. This might be more difficult to fix than it appears.
@@NorthoftheWallGarage a common solution is to remove the under-body spare wheel and replace it with a secondary tank. You then either need to carry a repair kit or similar, get a rear-mounted carrier, or hope.
But when you pay premium for a vehicle one expects it to be well thought out and researched that as owners we don’t need to find solutions at our cost tbh, I find that Lexus/Toyota have done loyal customers a disservice.
Really appreciate your insight as I was looking at buying one this week, I think I’m convinced to wait and see if fuel tank is corrected in future years and hopefully get a hybrid.
@NorthoftheWallGarage i noticed the air vent “issue” on mine as well. The air barely hits my face while driving unless it’s cranked all the way up! Even when i play around with the settings under the Climate control. Seems like the air system has a mind if it’s one with this model.
Thanks for calling out the tire issue. (Tire wet) my wife always gets pissed when that happens and it looks like the rear seat position really increases the possibility of that happening.
I have a 2024 Subaru Outback Wilderness and my hood does the same thing, I have to stop the car and check making sure the hood is close lol, will be shopping on our GX in a couple a months.
In Australia on the 300 series they will glue your hood under warranty, they clamp and glue but then you can see the dimple where they clamped it.... 300 series has bad hood flutter.
Please let us know when you upgrade the gas tank and the process. My 2010 FJ Cruiser’s hood flutters also and has for the last 290k miles. I don’t even notice it anymore. Maybe it is just a Toyota thing. Shouldn’t happen though.
Thanks for the honest review! I have a toddler so the 90 degree door swing is a must and live in AZ where it gets to 120 degrees in the summer. I need a excellent AC!
I’m looking at the 2027 model before I dump $69k into a vehicle. I have the time to wait. They have 1000s of engineers. Why do we always have first year production issues with ever vehicle ever made? Ridiculous!
@@brucey5585the 1995 model had issues. I owned this model for 26 years. The 1997 model was better engineered. The resale price shows this for the 1997.
Nice video and lovely GX! I own a LX 600 but seriously thought about the GX. Your garage is beautiful and big. Congratulations!! My car barely fits into my normal sized bay. The GX and LX are about the same length so I advise potential owners to measure your garage bays to make sure the car will fit!
The fact it doesnt have rear AC on every trim level is wild. In Phoenix, its a deal breaker if my car doesn't have separate rear AC for the kids. And my Armada has the hood flutter issue too. Nissan service dept said its because they use a thin lightweight hood to save on weight. For the price of the car, I'd rather have a more solid hood...
@@NorthoftheWallGarage Problem is, Lexus has decided to move options around in the new GX550 - want Mark Levinson sound system? Available in Luxury and Overtrail+ only. Want E-KDSS? Available in Overtrail only. Want rear climate controls? Not available in Overtrail. Want a 3rd row seat? Not available in Overtrail. Want Mark Levinson, KDSS, a third row, rear climate controls with high vents, and an off-road package? Get a 2023 GX460 Luxury. And the 550 has a 21 gal tank vs the 23 gal tank in the 460.
Hood flutter is interesting. Not sure if it's all new cars, but I noticed this car seems to have incredibly thin body panels and if the panels wave under normal driving speeds, that may be a little too thin. For an off roader, if I dent body panels with small tree branches, that would be a bummer. Beautiful car though and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks for sharing, great video! I’m definitely waiting for the hybrid version of this. 300 mile range is too low. The other things would annoy me as well such as getting dirty from the tire, weak AC in the back, flattering hood.. I hope they address it it soon.
I have a 1997 T100 which has bars underneath the hood. They separated years ago with the original owner. That allowed the hood to "flutter". The paint on the pickup is still great except the hood which lost its clearcoat due to the flexing.
Toyota depends on 70 years of reputation and a legion of toyota fanboys to keep buying their latest toys even though evidence shows all toyotas (outside pre-24 4runner), all post 2022 Toyota medium/heavy duty vehicles have been performing worse than a NISSAN. Who would have thought. 2025 Infiniti QX80 > GX550 > LX600 (top 3 japanese tanks). But Nissan uses GTR engineers to make the Infiniti and have 20+ years of experience using V6 with Turbos. Toyota does not unless they integrate Hybrid system (car gets too complicated with long term reliability issues).
You have to adjust the round rubber bumpers under the front of the hood. My 4 runner did the same thing from the factory but a quick adjustment fixed it
That’s where it’s going to be terrible, but honestly I wouldn’t want to tow a lot of weight any distance with a suv vs a truck though but it’s def going to be terrible range, prob get 12 towing a load, so 12x18 would be range
The KING of towing and the jack of all trades SUV is a DIESEL Tahoe/Suburban Z71 off road (2025 off road models will have Diesel Engine = 30+ MPG on the highway, bullet proof reliability, 50% more room than current Lexus lineup), lockers, etc. It will get the job done and made in Texas (just like Tesla and Toyota Sequioa/Tundra). XD
@@vm2003 modern diesel is the king of primadonna maintenance and breakdowns with that rube goldberg aftertreatment system. Consumers who want to tow are better off with a big block V8 gasser.
My wife has a 2013 GX-460. The AC fan doesn't blow hard enough either. I have to manually increase the fan speed to cool properly, so I think it's designed to be that way. It does have a true 3-zone AC/heat with rear controls though.
Is there a BRIGHT flashing red light on top of the dash next to the windshield that constantly flashes when the engine is turned off, even if you're sitting inside with the key fob??
I ordered a GX 550 Overtrail from the dealer in early April 2024. Delivery is early October. I drove past the Toyota dealer and saw a 2024 Land Cruiser outside. Same body as the new GX. I went for a test drive and bought it on the spot. I'm glad I got the hybrid version over the Lexus' twin turbo V6. The Land cruiser has a 2.4L four cylinder with a hybrid built in. And the gas mileage is great. I'm sure glad I got the Toyota over the Lexus. I got the round headlights too.
Fellow car enthusiast here, I loved the video. Our order is set to arrive next month and it’s a premium + with bench seats, hud and a few other extras. Wish it had captains. We need the third row. We test drove a premium + on the lot last week and are getting cold feet. Handling was poor. We wanted a premium + because it has the third row and the luxury trims are underwhelming from a value standpoint, not to mention the wheels are so ugly as to be embarrassing. We want something that can tow a camper, go to Corolla NC, and has a third row and ventilated seats. We have a 2016 MDX (advance, entertainment packages) now and I’m half tempted to just keep it. What do you think?
We hit the OBX too! Buying a car is such a personal thing, so hard for me to advise you well. What I will say is the GX is truly a truck whereas your Acura is not - it’s hard to compare the two. If you don’t love the GX definitely don’t buy it - it’s a lot of money to spend for something you’re so-so about.
Thanks for the video! The GX just arrived in Australia and we are at the moment waiting for our 7 seats GX 550 in green, these info are very helpful, I'll looking out for these issues and see what are the options. Thanks mate!
If no tire shine, will be mud for people, so good call out that the wheel well is part of the door. Interesting find and heads up. I have a Ram 1500 and already end up with mud on my legs from the step boards, so this is another mud trap! A/C wise, I never run on AUTO, so good to know but an FYI. I always run on LO and high fan in the summer, love my AC. I hate gas caps, love my Ram for the lack of a gas cap. Don't have to touch the cap or worry about it swinging down and hitting my paint. My RAM has the larger 33 gal tank, I can go 450 to 500 depending if I'm cruising at 65 or at 75 or even 80 MPH as I live in Montana as many highways are 80. Good info, thanks for sharing. I have the GX550 on my list of SUV's I'm considering in 2025. I will add, my "perfect" or nearly perfect car was my 2013 LS460 F Sport. EXECPT the freaking Brembo brakes that squeaked literally from break in, about 500 miles. They did swap out the pads twice and it did help but when I think back over 35 years of cars (I've owned near 60 cars in that timeframe) that LS460 is the one I miss the most. Amazing ride, sound system and overall just loved it.
0:13 I had a 2006 Grand Cherokee with the 5.7 Hemi, and it had a 16 gallon tank. I never even thought about checking that feature when I bought it. It definitely is an issue on long road trips if you're traveling in an area that has towns far apart. My father has a 2020 Prius, and the back seats have no vents for the ac. Here in Las Vegas, that's a problem. Are you concerned about the engine with all of the issues they're having with the Tundra's ?
There are console mounted vents, just not in the roof (in the overtrail models). I could see how in a hot climate it could be problematic. Not concerned about the engine issues at all - seems like it could be due to a manufacturing defect and I don’t believe the gx550 has been affected based on what Toyota has found. Even so, there’s a long powertrain warranty to cover me!
Hey love the vid. I would say a good rule of thumb is always buying the second/third year of a new generation product. 1st year is fixing any tweaks, 2nd / 3rd yr usually is the best, 3rd and beyond usually is to maximize shareholder profit which could cause a drop in quality.
I'm waiting for my GX to come in. I've been a little uneasy about it, but after watching your video, I'm feeling better about it. I live in the south, and we always put the AC way down when we get in the vehicle, so that doesn't bother me. My husband has a 2017 Tacoma, I never noticed his hood. I might now. Those aren't deal breakers for me. My job is the next exit away, so gas doesn't really bother me. Hoping the the engine issues are figured out and taken care of that of course is my main issue. Also, hoping there is something after market for the hood fluttering.
We are thankful all those initial testers who bought the car soon after release. Toyota / Lexus listen to their customers and keep on improving the vehicle over a period of several years. Then they become reliable vehicles. Other car companies don’t really care.
Totally agree on reduced fuel tank size on PHEV's. When the batteries only give an additional 25-35 miles or so, I do t think it's worth it going PHEV. I do know the BMW 760e has the same size fuel tank as the gas only version. Not sure if any others do.
I planned on replacing my wife's GX 460 with an overtrail we ordered over a year ago. Price, hood flutter, side mirrors, less roomy interior made me decide to pass on the new GX. I didn't even know about fuel capacity! That's a big deal too. In order to get the same comfort/features we were looking at an 83K build. I mean, Lexus can't have memory seats in a standard build? Come on! Loved the power, but that was about it.
@@hipetwa their are zero issues with the GX 550. these are built in Japan and no 2024 especially the models built in Japan have any recalls or expected to have recalls. The 2017 Lexus LX sedan has this engine and Toyota says it's been tested to a million miles.
Hood flutter should NOT be present in this Lexus GX, period. Luxus falling down in quality, along with bridge bearing issues in this motor -- buyer beware.
The range isn’t any different than the previous gen GX, but I agree. They could have added even another 2-3 gallons and eeked out another 50 miles of highway range.
These are actually pretty good cons to be complaining about honestly. I'm going to have to hide this video and see if my wife has any of the same ones......lol! So far were 8 days in of ownership. OverTrail + in White.
I have a 24 Tundra Limited ( love it),,, I also have a 2015 Lexus ES350, I think it's as close to a perfect automobile as you can get, it is bulletproof reliable, has a ride like silk, it's got 123K on the odometer , it seems like it runs better now, than ever, ( I'm not exaggerating ), these Lexus vehicles are built for the long haul, it's known in the industry, and no rust whatsoever
The range was never a selling point for any GX. It does beg the question of why deal with the complexity (and current problems) of the V35a engine over the 1URFE; this V6 gets no real world mileage benefit over the V8.
For what it’s worth Toyota/Lexus are well known for being very very conservative on the fuel level reading vs the actual fuel level in the tank. Chances are your GX550 is showing empty while still holding 3-4 gallons of fuel. The manufacturer likes to keep the fuel system as reliable as possible so Toyota/Lexus want to keep the fuel pump submerged in fuel because the pump is cooled by the fuel around it. So they show empty with a healthy reserve for fuel pump longevity. You can still use every last drop though. So you really have more range than you think, but using every last bit is probably not advisable on any car or truck. At least not if you care about your fuel pump.
@@JohnJohnCrusher Sure you can use it, not advisable for fuel pump longevity or predictable remaining fuel level but it’s possible. Just take a 5 gallon Jerry can of gasoline with you when you test out how much more fuel you really have.
@@NorthoftheWallGarage I agree with you that if a larger tank becomes available that it’s worth considering. I’m not sure why the fuel tank is so small, my guess is to preserve payload, but that’s just a guess. If towing 9,000lbs is a thing with the GX550 that means approximately 900lbs of tongue weight on the hitch eating up payload. Throw in two adults, and some kiddos on top of that and you’re hard up against your rated payload. Gotta save that payload weight somewhere and gasoline weighs 6lbs/gallon.
Its a built in reserve to avoid damaging the fuel system. When the fuel indicator shows empty, you still have 3-4 gallons in every toyota, yes you are correct.
2 year waiting list in Montreal, Canada. I put my name on list this weekend. But I may just keep the 2017 GX460 a little longer and cancel when time comes.
I own a regular gas Toyota Grand Highlander, introduced for the 2024 model year and I think some of the issues you mention appear to be common across newer Toyotas. Firstly, the air flow not blowing hard or strong enough on a hot day unless you really lower the set temperature or alternately crank up the fan speed manually. The second is the hood flutter at highway speed. And the third issue that I have in common is the relatively low fuel range. I have the regular gas engine, not the hybrid which has lower fuel consumption. So while the fuel tank capacity is kind of right sized for the lower hybrid fuel consumption, it is certainly lower than optimal for the higher fuel consumption of the regular gas engine. Having said that, Toyota has sweated other aspects of the vehicles such that it is superior to other vehicles I have owned e.g. the perfect balance of switches and touch screen controls in my opinion vs the trend to go all touch screen nowadays. Secondly, even in the base trim Grand Highlander, the second row has it's own climate control i.e. it's a three zone control climate with vents in the ceiling stretching back all the way to the third row. And little things like a manual privacy/sun shade on the second row windows, something not found on more expensive vehicles.
I would still give it a drive and see it in person. I think this was the best vehicle for me and my family so I don’t regret the purchase, but it’s certainly not perfect
For 80+ almost out the door for overtrail. This is a huge con. Interior also feels cheap. As excited as i was, i might just pass. Give it a year or two, you can prob get the landcruiser for like 40-50k. Prob the best option
with the A/C they have a Eco setting, it reduces the air flow to conserve energy, it's crappy, you can turn it off by pressing the Eco heat/cool button. also there is a s-mode that when on sends more air flow to the driver and not to the passengers. make sure that you turn off this if when you have passengers. you select these options from the front air-conditioning control system
You do not discuss what MPG you are experiencing. Is it within the MPG range indicated on the sticker? And by the way, with the hybrid system, the battery will be in the back and will consume your cargo space - the floor of the rear space will be raised. Your car has a larger tank than the Hybrid version would. (I have Land Cruiser and it is a Hybrid) The Land Cruiser gets lower mileage than what is posted as the minimum MPG. The tank size is maybe 16 gallons.
The a/c issue was almost a non starter for me, amoung other things but then my dealership told me they wouldnt honor my order and were going to add 6k for "Lexus standardizing trims..." pulled my deposit and bought a 2024 tundra trd pro for an OTD price of the gx new mrsp. That gx still looks super sharp though.
Sounds like his kid will grow up and reflect on how difficult it was to endure seeing tire scuff on clothes, no climate control in the backseat, and the woes of having a small fuel tank. What a life!
Haven’t had any issues with ours. Seem to be cold enough for what we want. Granted we live fairly far north, so our summers are mild compared to the rest of the country. Did take the truck down to DC this summer and the cooled seats worked great.
Great video. I was looking at GX. I’m in a X5 M60 now and a M4. Was looking at GX, RRS or new cayenne GTS. Range is Soooo important to me. All good to know.
Thanks! Yes - in a fantasy world this car would have a diesel option in the US. Still recommend checking out the GX - very different than the Cayenne and RR in the sense that it’s a proper truck. Depending on your lifestyle that could be a better fit
As an add on truck? You’ll never be remotely happy coming from a more comfortable & luxurious BMW to a GX truck. It’s the anti crossover, and massively different. As an add on off road mini Ute extra truck, sure.
Nice to have some honest thoughts on the GX.
Just in case you or anyone else doesn’t know: if you have an iPhone connected you can press the diagonal double-ended arrow next to the clock on CarPlay to make the CarPlay use more of the screen. None of the reviewers have mentioned it, but it’s important!
After hearing of spun bearings I’ve decided to keep the 460 and give the new 550 time to work out its new “quirks and features”.
Smart guy !!!!
Reliability is becoming a hard thing to find…
The spun bearing is becoming a real problem. They are trying really hard to keep it quiet and down play it, but it's more prevalent than what is being reported to the general public. There have been multiple Tundra's that have encountered the spun bearing even after the engine rebuilds. Definitely hold on to that 460!
@@mikelaughlin270 I hope they address and rectify the problem.
That’s going to be one costly recall if they take that route.
@mikelaughlin270 Think the tundra engines are assembled in the U.S. as opposed to the lexus, which is built in Japan. I'm not sure if that will make a difference, though.
Love the honesty!!! Thanks for posting these GX 550 vids!! Looking forward to more. ;)
Thanks!!
Truthfully I never ever never buy first year models. Takes a little while to hammer out the bugs that will invariably appear. I don't fault you I just follow that rule. Nice car. I own a GX 460.
Great video because the issues you take about would never be discussed in any press review. Only by living with the vehicle can you talk about the real issues unique to the car. Range is a real problem. My friends MBZ GLE 450 gets 500 miles per tank. Hood flutter is totally unacceptable in any Lexus.
Thanks! Agree that you truly need to live with a vehicle before you figure some of this stuff out
Yeaaaaaah. The AC/Fuel tank issue sucks. The console was enough to put me off mentally for not having buttons, but that combined with fiddling around on a screen while driving in Texas summers with a new born is a no go for the price. I may wait for the hybrid, if I don't get something sooner. I appreciate your videos. Thanks.
LC250 all have buttons and 3 zone climate.
Or get the LX 600.
Great video! My children are grown. The fuel range is no better than my 1995 Land Cruiser. 19 gallons and 230 miles. The wind buffering hood will need to be addressed. $69,000 and your hood is bouncing around is a major problem for buyers. Keep us updated. Cheers!
It think your off on the range says 15-21 and prob 18 usable gallons 270 in the city and 378 on th highway
simple fix.. gx 460
Thanks! Going to see if there’s a fix for the flutter - we will see
Hood problems…..well all I can say is that it might be acceptable in a Corolla but not a GX.
Never buy the first generation of anything. Engineers are not that smart nowadays to predict and figure out potential problems even with all of the clay models and wind tunnels and simulators provided by Toyota. The engineering sucks. $72,000 and your hood bounces in the wind like it about to fly off? That is pathetic!
Hood flutter could be adjustment
There are little plastic stops under the hood that can be adjusted usually
That’s what I think also.
Good info - I will check this out
First, let me say thank you for posting these videos. Your videos have presented the clearest picture of what any future owner might experience. Toyotas have had hood flutter for years . I’ve heard folks complain about it on the new Grand Highlanders (ie, TX) too. I’ve gotten used to it on my 4R, but it’s pretty chintzy, especially on a $75-80k vehicle. The more I see videos on these new GX the more I see it as a souped-up 4Runner for twice the price. From purely a utility standpoint, it’s a truck that’s basically the same size, gets basically the same fuel economy, etc. Besides ever-larger dash console screens (which I could care less about) I’m not sure what makes this so compelling. That said, good luck with yours and hopefully you will continue to post updates.
Thanks! Agree with most of your sentiment here, however the LC and new 4Runner didn’t appeal to me as I didn’t want to go down to 4cyl hybrid. Some folks in here are nervous about the TTV6 but so far so good
Hood flutter is due to it most likely having an aluminum hood.
Bump stop adjustment can resolve this.
If not try adding fuel line hosing inside the rubber seals that make contact with the hood. One runs horizontal along the back and two vertical along the sides. This helped tremendously with a vehicle I had hood flutter with.
Great tip - I will absolutely try that out
Or just plain poor quality. Cars have had aluminum hoods for years and no flutter.
Extremely common many Toyota/Lexus products. Panel thickness and lack of bracing to save cost and weight.
To those who think it's poor quality - Ford/Chevy/Subaru/Rivian all have this issue as well as many other manufacturers.
It is common unfortunately.
@@dreday010186 Since when does Toyota keep company with other junk manufacturers and a startup when it comes to quality?
Thank you for addressing the size of the fuel tank. I have not heard anyone speak about that yet! That is a huge miss for me. I do not want to be stopping to fuel up more than I already do.
Glad I could help! Yeah expect mid-200s for range in the city - the 2 gallon difference from the last gen GX460 is a bummer since the mpg is quite similar
Great review, thank you. I’m going to hold off and wait till some of these issues you brought up are resolved, especially the range.
Thanks! If your local dealer has one, I'd say definitely check it out. I'm ultimately very happy with the GX550 8 months into ownership. Some of these issues are resolved and I will post an update video before the year end
Lexus without rear ac? That's embarrassing
Has rear vents but not separate climate in overtrail trims. Luxury and premium trims have it. Don’t know why they kept that out of overtrail
@@NorthoftheWallGarageDude that totally sucks. I did not realize that. I'm now #2 on the wait list for my overtrail...
It’s annoying but can be overcome. Test drive one in the heat if you can
@@JohnJohnCrusherthere’s a waitlist? Thats crazy
@@NorthoftheWallGarage They don't have the ceiling vents in overtrail trims, in addition to the lack of rear climate control. It's a non-starter for those with families, and doesn't make sense in the overtrail+, especially.
Thanks for mentioning the range, I was planning on "upgrading" my 460, but I won't if it's not 400 miles of range. My 4 runner only gets 310 miles of range and that is my biggest gripe with it.
thank you so much for the in-depth review on this vehicle! The actual livability was what I've been looking to find out and you answered most of my questions! congratulations on your ownership.
Thanks for the kind words! Very happy with it overall, but haven’t heard much from real owners so wanted to give the community some feedback
This is very, very helpful. Many, many thanks.
Please keep pumping out the vids of this beast. This is my next car hopefully and in Nori Green also!
Thanks man! For sure - appreciate the support
Interesting connection between current fuel tank size and anticipated hybridization.
🎉 Hey 👋 congratulations on growing the RUclips channel and the large number of views and comments. I don’t even really want this vehicle, but I enjoyed listening to you and the way you did the video. Good job on the title thumbnail and the quick and easy hook also I liked how you just walk around with the camera, but I felt connected because I could see your reflection talking in the vehicle window. Not sure if you planned this, but wanted to give you feedback and let you know it was connecting and engaging. Great job good work keep it up 👍 💪💪💪💪💪💪
Thanks a bunch! Appreciate it!
I remember I saw another video talking about the TNGA-F platform, not specific to GX550 but in general (I think it is talking about Tundra or Sequoia..). It mentioned the frame is narrow than the older one and thus caused the reduced size of the fuel tank. This might be more difficult to fix than it appears.
Very good information - I hope we will find out soon enough
@@NorthoftheWallGarage a common solution is to remove the under-body spare wheel and replace it with a secondary tank. You then either need to carry a repair kit or similar, get a rear-mounted carrier, or hope.
But when you pay premium for a vehicle one expects it to be well thought out and researched that as owners we don’t need to find solutions at our cost tbh, I find that Lexus/Toyota have done loyal customers a disservice.
wow- I'm so happy you mention all these things!!!!
I’m more worried about powertrain issues, like what tundra folks are experiencing. I was planning on buying the 2024 gx. But now not so sure.
If you are at all wanting one, you best get on the waiting list. There are 7-12 month waits depending where you live.
Really appreciate your insight as I was looking at buying one this week, I think I’m convinced to wait and see if fuel tank is corrected in future years and hopefully get a hybrid.
@NorthoftheWallGarage i noticed the air vent “issue” on mine as well. The air barely hits my face while driving unless it’s cranked all the way up! Even when i play around with the settings under the Climate control. Seems like the air system has a mind if it’s one with this model.
Thanks for calling out the tire issue. (Tire wet) my wife always gets pissed when that happens and it looks like the rear seat position really increases the possibility of that happening.
My 22 tundra platinum has the same hood fluttering! Our GX Premium Plus will be in tomorrow. Thanks for the review!
I have a 2024 Subaru Outback Wilderness and my hood does the same thing, I have to stop the car and check making sure the hood is close lol, will be shopping on our GX in a couple a months.
In Australia on the 300 series they will glue your hood under warranty, they clamp and glue but then you can see the dimple where they clamped it.... 300 series has bad hood flutter.
Sad....having to glue on additional braces because the hood structure is so flimsy.
Great point. Wonder if the lx600 has it as well.
Please let us know when you upgrade the gas tank and the process. My 2010 FJ Cruiser’s hood flutters also and has for the last 290k miles. I don’t even notice it anymore. Maybe it is just a Toyota thing. Shouldn’t happen though.
Yeah after a while in my Tacoma I stopped noticing it. Not sweating it on this one too much
Thanks for the honest review! I have a toddler so the 90 degree door swing is a must and live in AZ where it gets to 120 degrees in the summer. I need a excellent AC!
None of your complaints were that important to me, but I respect your inputs.
Appreciate it! I love the GX550, and yes depending on your needs none of this may mater
Just got my luxury+ two days ago
I subscribed to stay tuned on the gas tank mod
I’m waiting until 2025. Every new launch has problems. Even Toyota lol
You want to wait for 2026. Toyota takes awhile to fix the issues.
@@brucey5585 might have to anyway lol. I’m a year away so we will see what they do.
I’m looking at the 2027 model before I dump $69k into a vehicle. I have the time to wait. They have 1000s of engineers. Why do we always have first year production issues with ever vehicle ever made? Ridiculous!
@@brucey5585the 1995 model had issues. I owned this model for 26 years. The 1997 model was better engineered. The resale price shows this for the 1997.
@Isovapor good luck finding a GX for $69!
Nice video and lovely GX! I own a LX 600 but seriously thought about the GX. Your garage is beautiful and big. Congratulations!! My car barely fits into my normal sized bay. The GX and LX are about the same length so I advise potential owners to measure your garage bays to make sure the car will fit!
Thanks! My house was built pre-automobile so the garage was built for carriages!
The fact it doesnt have rear AC on every trim level is wild. In Phoenix, its a deal breaker if my car doesn't have separate rear AC for the kids. And my Armada has the hood flutter issue too. Nissan service dept said its because they use a thin lightweight hood to save on weight. For the price of the car, I'd rather have a more solid hood...
It has rear AC vents just not separate controls like the 3 row models.
Correction, low A/C vents, not the high ones.
Very fair criticism. Pick your trim carefully based on your needs!
@@NorthoftheWallGarage Problem is, Lexus has decided to move options around in the new GX550 - want Mark Levinson sound system? Available in Luxury and Overtrail+ only. Want E-KDSS? Available in Overtrail only. Want rear climate controls? Not available in Overtrail. Want a 3rd row seat? Not available in Overtrail. Want Mark Levinson, KDSS, a third row, rear climate controls with high vents, and an off-road package? Get a 2023 GX460 Luxury. And the 550 has a 21 gal tank vs the 23 gal tank in the 460.
Armada is way cheaper. Starting price $45k. Lexus is way higher just for the base model. Compare the Infiniti to the Lexus.
Hood flutter is interesting. Not sure if it's all new cars, but I noticed this car seems to have incredibly thin body panels and if the panels wave under normal driving speeds, that may be a little too thin. For an off roader, if I dent body panels with small tree branches, that would be a bummer. Beautiful car though and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Short range is a deal killer. Thank you for this video.
Thanks for sharing, great video! I’m definitely waiting for the hybrid version of this. 300 mile range is too low. The other things would annoy me as well such as getting dirty from the tire, weak AC in the back, flattering hood.. I hope they address it it soon.
I have a 1997 T100 which has bars underneath the hood. They separated years ago with the original owner. That allowed the hood to "flutter". The paint on the pickup is still great except the hood which lost its clearcoat due to the flexing.
Very nice review. Thank you for doing this. I just feel bad for anyone who paid $15-20k over MSRP for this vehicle.
💯 there's a sucker born every minute
Toyota depends on 70 years of reputation and a legion of toyota fanboys to keep buying their latest toys even though evidence shows all toyotas (outside pre-24 4runner), all post 2022 Toyota medium/heavy duty vehicles have been performing worse than a NISSAN. Who would have thought. 2025 Infiniti QX80 > GX550 > LX600 (top 3 japanese tanks). But Nissan uses GTR engineers to make the Infiniti and have 20+ years of experience using V6 with Turbos. Toyota does not unless they integrate Hybrid system (car gets too complicated with long term reliability issues).
You have to adjust the round rubber bumpers under the front of the hood. My 4 runner did the same thing from the factory but a quick adjustment fixed it
Thank you! Other owners have reported this with varying levels of success.. I'll give it a shot
Fuel range an even bigger issue if you tow! Thanks for highlighting this
That’s where it’s going to be terrible, but honestly I wouldn’t want to tow a lot of weight any distance with a suv vs a truck though but it’s def going to be terrible range, prob get 12 towing a load, so 12x18 would be range
The KING of towing and the jack of all trades SUV is a DIESEL Tahoe/Suburban Z71 off road (2025 off road models will have Diesel Engine = 30+ MPG on the highway, bullet proof reliability, 50% more room than current Lexus lineup), lockers, etc. It will get the job done and made in Texas (just like Tesla and Toyota Sequioa/Tundra). XD
@@vm2003 modern diesel is the king of primadonna maintenance and breakdowns with that rube goldberg aftertreatment system. Consumers who want to tow are better off with a big block V8 gasser.
My LC100 had a hood flutter as well. Drove me nuts. Was always worried it would suddenly rip off when driving on the highway.
My wife has a 2013 GX-460. The AC fan doesn't blow hard enough either. I have to manually increase the fan speed to cool properly, so I think it's designed to be that way. It does have a true 3-zone AC/heat with rear controls though.
Good feedback - thanks!!
I have the same issue with leg/tire contact when loading my dog in the back seat on my GX460
Is there a BRIGHT flashing red light on top of the dash next to the windshield that constantly flashes when the engine is turned off, even if you're sitting inside with the key fob??
I ordered a GX 550 Overtrail from the dealer in early April 2024. Delivery is early October. I drove past the Toyota dealer and saw a 2024 Land Cruiser outside. Same body as the new GX. I went for a test drive and bought it on the spot. I'm glad I got the hybrid version over the Lexus' twin turbo V6. The Land cruiser has a 2.4L four cylinder with a hybrid built in. And the gas mileage is great. I'm sure glad I got the Toyota over the Lexus. I got the round headlights too.
New LC is sweet. Glad you're happy with it!
Fellow car enthusiast here, I loved the video. Our order is set to arrive next month and it’s a premium + with bench seats, hud and a few other extras. Wish it had captains. We need the third row. We test drove a premium + on the lot last week and are getting cold feet.
Handling was poor. We wanted a premium + because it has the third row and the luxury trims are underwhelming from a value standpoint, not to mention the wheels are so ugly as to be embarrassing.
We want something that can tow a camper, go to Corolla NC, and has a third row and ventilated seats. We have a 2016 MDX (advance, entertainment packages) now and I’m half tempted to just keep it. What do you think?
We hit the OBX too! Buying a car is such a personal thing, so hard for me to advise you well. What I will say is the GX is truly a truck whereas your Acura is not - it’s hard to compare the two. If you don’t love the GX definitely don’t buy it - it’s a lot of money to spend for something you’re so-so about.
We must live in the same area as I saw you riding around yesterday. The Nori Green is probably my favorite for the GX 550. Congrats on the 550!
Thanks man! If we run into each other say hi!!
Excellent and honest review!!
Thanks for the video! The GX just arrived in Australia and we are at the moment waiting for our 7 seats GX 550 in green, these info are very helpful, I'll looking out for these issues and see what are the options. Thanks mate!
If no tire shine, will be mud for people, so good call out that the wheel well is part of the door. Interesting find and heads up. I have a Ram 1500 and already end up with mud on my legs from the step boards, so this is another mud trap! A/C wise, I never run on AUTO, so good to know but an FYI. I always run on LO and high fan in the summer, love my AC. I hate gas caps, love my Ram for the lack of a gas cap. Don't have to touch the cap or worry about it swinging down and hitting my paint. My RAM has the larger 33 gal tank, I can go 450 to 500 depending if I'm cruising at 65 or at 75 or even 80 MPH as I live in Montana as many highways are 80. Good info, thanks for sharing. I have the GX550 on my list of SUV's I'm considering in 2025.
I will add, my "perfect" or nearly perfect car was my 2013 LS460 F Sport. EXECPT the freaking Brembo brakes that squeaked literally from break in, about 500 miles. They did swap out the pads twice and it did help but when I think back over 35 years of cars (I've owned near 60 cars in that timeframe) that LS460 is the one I miss the most. Amazing ride, sound system and overall just loved it.
0:13 I had a 2006 Grand Cherokee with the 5.7 Hemi, and it had a 16 gallon tank. I never even thought about checking that feature when I bought it. It definitely is an issue on long road trips if you're traveling in an area that has towns far apart. My father has a 2020 Prius, and the back seats have no vents for the ac. Here in Las Vegas, that's a problem. Are you concerned about the engine with all of the issues they're having with the Tundra's ?
There are console mounted vents, just not in the roof (in the overtrail models). I could see how in a hot climate it could be problematic. Not concerned about the engine issues at all - seems like it could be due to a manufacturing defect and I don’t believe the gx550 has been affected based on what Toyota has found. Even so, there’s a long powertrain warranty to cover me!
Hey love the vid. I would say a good rule of thumb is always buying the second/third year of a new generation product. 1st year is fixing any tweaks, 2nd / 3rd yr usually is the best, 3rd and beyond usually is to maximize shareholder profit which could cause a drop in quality.
I'm waiting for my GX to come in. I've been a little uneasy about it, but after watching your video, I'm feeling better about it. I live in the south, and we always put the AC way down when we get in the vehicle, so that doesn't bother me. My husband has a 2017 Tacoma, I never noticed his hood. I might now. Those aren't deal breakers for me. My job is the next exit away, so gas doesn't really bother me. Hoping the the engine issues are figured out and taken care of that of course is my main issue. Also, hoping there is something after market for the hood fluttering.
You’re going to love it!! It’s a great truck - hope yours arrives soon!
Why do you need this model hi end vehicle
Driving a car with its hood flapping around would drive me absolutely nuts
Great video! I appreciate the attention to detials like no climate in rear for ot model and the hood flutter. Apprrciate the vid!
as someone with a toddler that was looking at a possible SUV for the family, you definitely hit some practical points of concern!
We are thankful all those initial testers who bought the car soon after release. Toyota / Lexus listen to their customers and keep on improving the vehicle over a period of several years. Then they become reliable vehicles. Other car companies don’t really care.
You made an extremely useful video . . thank you
Yes, the hood is a bit thinner, all the new toyota metal sheet used on the body paner are thiner, you can heard it by knocking it.
Nice video. The range comment is spot on. That size of a tank should give you at least 400 miles - but this one tops at around 320-330
Yes - definitely a bit of a head scratcher. They need to revise the reserve calc first. Aux tank still probably makes sense
Totally agree on reduced fuel tank size on PHEV's. When the batteries only give an additional 25-35 miles or so, I do t think it's worth it going PHEV.
I do know the BMW 760e has the same size fuel tank as the gas only version. Not sure if any others do.
Very very helpful information. That fuel tank con is very concerning.
I planned on replacing my wife's GX 460 with an overtrail we ordered over a year ago. Price, hood flutter, side mirrors, less roomy interior made me decide to pass on the new GX. I didn't even know about fuel capacity! That's a big deal too. In order to get the same comfort/features we were looking at an 83K build. I mean, Lexus can't have memory seats in a standard build? Come on! Loved the power, but that was about it.
Don't replace the gx460 the new one gx550 has issues with the v6 engine after 21000 mile on the clock
@@hipetwa- You’re a future teller. No one has a GX with 21k yet. 😂
The new LX 600 has hood flutter as well. Not horrible, but still at the price point….
Keep that GX460 until the car falls apart. You got a few decades lifespan left on that vehicle.
@@hipetwa their are zero issues with the GX 550. these are built in Japan and no 2024 especially the models built in Japan have any recalls or expected to have recalls. The 2017 Lexus LX sedan has this engine and Toyota says it's been tested to a million miles.
So weird, my 2018 4runner didn't have hood flutter.
Great points of interest/criticism
when i test drove the hood flutter made it an absolute no for me. definitely disappointing for a 75k dollar vehicle
Cutting costs on those things is just mind boggling
Ridiculous for this kind of money.
My Tacoma had the same issue. I had to purchase panel sealing shit and apply it to the hood myself because the dealer was useless.
Hood flutter should NOT be present in this Lexus GX, period. Luxus falling down in quality, along with bridge bearing issues in this motor -- buyer beware.
The range isn’t any different than the previous gen GX, but I agree. They could have added even another 2-3 gallons and eeked out another 50 miles of highway range.
I tow with my GX460. That range is important, plus Lexus up the GVWR from 6500 to 9000lb and the reduce the tank capacity?
Yeah auxiliary tank will be the play. Hoping someone comes out with it soon! Just released a towing vid
These are actually pretty good cons to be complaining about honestly. I'm going to have to hide this video and see if my wife has any of the same ones......lol! So far were 8 days in of ownership. OverTrail + in White.
Thanks! Nothing that makes me regret the purchase. It’s a great truck with a lot of presence
I have a 24 Tundra Limited ( love it),,, I also have a 2015 Lexus ES350, I think it's as close to a perfect automobile as you can get, it is bulletproof reliable, has a ride like silk, it's got 123K on the odometer , it seems like it runs better now, than ever, ( I'm not exaggerating ), these Lexus vehicles are built for the long haul, it's known in the industry, and no rust whatsoever
3.4 V6 Engine currently issues for the lexus gx 550 except problem after 21000 miles
I speculate that the hood flutters because it’s long and relatively flat, and doesn’t have the rigidity of a curved panel.
It isn't happening on other vehicles with a flat hood. Terrible excuse.
The range really is a killer.
The range was never a selling point for any GX. It does beg the question of why deal with the complexity (and current problems) of the V35a engine over the 1URFE; this V6 gets no real world mileage benefit over the V8.
Love this color, great choice!
thank you!
For what it’s worth Toyota/Lexus are well known for being very very conservative on the fuel level reading vs the actual fuel level in the tank. Chances are your GX550 is showing empty while still holding 3-4 gallons of fuel.
The manufacturer likes to keep the fuel system as reliable as possible so Toyota/Lexus want to keep the fuel pump submerged in fuel because the pump is cooled by the fuel around it. So they show empty with a healthy reserve for fuel pump longevity. You can still use every last drop though. So you really have more range than you think, but using every last bit is probably not advisable on any car or truck. At least not if you care about your fuel pump.
But you can't be sure. So you can't really use that supposed hidden capacity.
Interesting info - I could see that as a possibility. I found out the hard way that Mercedes is not conservative with the fuel gauge 😂
@@JohnJohnCrusher
Sure you can use it, not advisable for fuel pump longevity or predictable remaining fuel level but it’s possible. Just take a 5 gallon Jerry can of gasoline with you when you test out how much more fuel you really have.
@@NorthoftheWallGarage
I agree with you that if a larger tank becomes available that it’s worth considering. I’m not sure why the fuel tank is so small, my guess is to preserve payload, but that’s just a guess. If towing 9,000lbs is a thing with the GX550 that means approximately 900lbs of tongue weight on the hitch eating up payload. Throw in two adults, and some kiddos on top of that and you’re hard up against your rated payload. Gotta save that payload weight somewhere and gasoline weighs 6lbs/gallon.
Its a built in reserve to avoid damaging the fuel system. When the fuel indicator shows empty, you still have 3-4 gallons in every toyota, yes you are correct.
5th gen 4Runner has the same tank size also at 21 I believe. So I get like low 300s as well
All good to know Cons. Thank you.
Love that “Nori Green” color! My old 100 series Lexus LX (Landcruiser) has “hood flutter” …. I think just part of their GX/LC quirk.
2 year waiting list in Montreal, Canada. I put my name on list this weekend. But I may just keep the 2017 GX460 a little longer and cancel when time comes.
Good luck! I'd definitely advise checking it out when they are available to you - but nothing wrong with the GX460. Love Montreal btw! Great city
My 2009 Merc ML350 gets at least 480 miles range….tempted to keep as long as possible
I own a regular gas Toyota Grand Highlander, introduced for the 2024 model year and I think some of the issues you mention appear to be common across newer Toyotas. Firstly, the air flow not blowing hard or strong enough on a hot day unless you really lower the set temperature or alternately crank up the fan speed manually. The second is the hood flutter at highway speed. And the third issue that I have in common is the relatively low fuel range. I have the regular gas engine, not the hybrid which has lower fuel consumption. So while the fuel tank capacity is kind of right sized for the lower hybrid fuel consumption, it is certainly lower than optimal for the higher fuel consumption of the regular gas engine.
Having said that, Toyota has sweated other aspects of the vehicles such that it is superior to other vehicles I have owned e.g. the perfect balance of switches and touch screen controls in my opinion vs the trend to go all touch screen nowadays. Secondly, even in the base trim Grand Highlander, the second row has it's own climate control i.e. it's a three zone control climate with vents in the ceiling stretching back all the way to the third row. And little things like a manual privacy/sun shade on the second row windows, something not found on more expensive vehicles.
Your video stopped me on my tracks considering it. I appreciate your video.
I would still give it a drive and see it in person. I think this was the best vehicle for me and my family so I don’t regret the purchase, but it’s certainly not perfect
@@NorthoftheWallGarage I see. I appreciate it brother 🤙
Any rumors when the GX550 hybrid will come out? 4:30
Likely 2026 if at all. Some are saying GX550h will be Asia only
Marked safe from car seat issues, mine will be here mid November/early December in Green as well. Thanks for the review.
Hahah - well said. Enjoy - it's a great truck!
Nice car but still love my Gx460. I heard that main bearing go bad on this.
For 80+ almost out the door for overtrail. This is a huge con. Interior also feels cheap. As excited as i was, i might just pass. Give it a year or two, you can prob get the landcruiser for like 40-50k. Prob the best option
Maybe you have actvated S-Flow option on your AC and thats why its blowing slow.
with the A/C they have a Eco setting, it reduces the air flow to conserve energy, it's crappy, you can turn it off by pressing the Eco heat/cool button. also there is a s-mode that when on sends more air flow to the driver and not to the passengers. make sure that you turn off this if when you have passengers. you select these options from the front air-conditioning control system
Great info - I will check that out. Thanks!
On my 2023 Gx460 Premium, the gas tank size is 26 gallons.
My husband and I just saw this last night. I want one in black but I need to review the AC vents in the back further......
You do not discuss what MPG you are experiencing. Is it within the MPG range indicated on the sticker? And by the way, with the hybrid system, the battery will be in the back and will consume your cargo space - the floor of the rear space will be raised. Your car has a larger tank than the Hybrid version would. (I have Land Cruiser and it is a Hybrid) The Land Cruiser gets lower mileage than what is posted as the minimum MPG. The tank size is maybe 16 gallons.
The a/c issue was almost a non starter for me, amoung other things but then my dealership told me they wouldnt honor my order and were going to add 6k for "Lexus standardizing trims..." pulled my deposit and bought a 2024 tundra trd pro for an OTD price of the gx new mrsp. That gx still looks super sharp though.
is this overtrail or overtrail plus? and i hear that the hood fluff is because they made it pedestrian crash safe... not sure about it
Overtrail plus! And yes, that wouldn’t surprise me. It doesn’t bother me a ton but in a perfect world it wouldn’t be there
Glad I opted to get the GX460 instead of waiting for the new new
fuel tank size is an issue if i cant get at least 700km on highway
Sounds like his kid will grow up and reflect on how difficult it was to endure seeing tire scuff on clothes, no climate control in the backseat, and the woes of having a small fuel tank. What a life!
Yes, absolutely traumatizing
Great video. What are your thoughts on the GX 550 and ventilated seats? I'm hearing they lack in cooling and I'm curious to your thoughts. Thanks!
Haven’t had any issues with ours. Seem to be cold enough for what we want. Granted we live fairly far north, so our summers are mild compared to the rest of the country. Did take the truck down to DC this summer and the cooled seats worked great.
Great video. I was looking at GX. I’m in a X5 M60 now and a M4. Was looking at GX, RRS or new cayenne GTS. Range is Soooo important to me. All good to know.
Thanks! Yes - in a fantasy world this car would have a diesel option in the US. Still recommend checking out the GX - very different than the Cayenne and RR in the sense that it’s a proper truck. Depending on your lifestyle that could be a better fit
As an add on truck? You’ll never be remotely happy coming from a more comfortable & luxurious BMW to a GX truck. It’s the anti crossover, and massively different. As an add on off road mini Ute extra truck, sure.
FWIW i get 400 miles on a single tank with my GX 550 overtrail + on the highway
Interesting! You’re the first owner I’ve heard this from. Most others have expressed range woes as well. What was your average speed??
@@NorthoftheWallGarage 65-70mph range
Gives me a lot of hope. Doing a road trip soon and will report back
We were going for a Premium model of the GX550, I wonder if it will have rear vents?
Of course it will. Just not controls!