Is a Used Electric Smart Car Seven Times Better Than the Cheapest New Electric Car In The World?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) Jalopnik says that the Chinese made $900 Changli Nemeca from Chinese e-commerce website Alibaba, is a truly amazing machine. But is it 7-times better than a used $7000 Electric Drive Smart Car? Hell No! And Here's Why!
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Check out the Changli that Jason from Jalopnik purchased here ( ruclips.net/video/kJk30Kj5jCA/видео.html ) And please let us know it the comments below which one you would rather own.
Changli for the novelty, but Smart car when I actually need to go somewhere in a more dependable and safe vehicle that can’t be outrun by a human.
Smart was founded by Swatch clocks and Mercedes-Benz so S(watch)M(ercedes)ART(because of the unusual way of a lot of things at this car). In the early 90's they were thinking of putting two electro engines in the rear wheels but they thought with that they couldn't sell enough.
Well the shangli is a 4 wheel trike..maybe I dont to pay car Insurance to drive it in nyc..am I right yes or not?
he said he paid over $3,000 (RUclips search:
Jalopnik, Unboxing The World's Cheapest New Car Reveals It's So Much Better Than You Think)
I'd rather own a 1968 Boss 302.
For city use these are perfect along with other EVs like it. Range isnt everything and helps people that can't spend $35k+. People need to put their ego aside sometimes
I've had My 2014 ED almost 3 years. I bought it in Utah from a company that had it wrapped with their logos and on display in their lobby after Howie Mandel used it at one of their conventions to get around inside the convention center, I got pictures of him inside of it. I got it for $7600 with only 4250 miles, looked brand-new. I Love it! I bought it because i went back to school and the university had free charging, 2 years almost free charging other than a home charge on a weekend here and there. I relocated to Virginia for a 1 year commitment to my employer had the car transported here. No one ever believes me that it is all electric, got vanity plates that read 'LIL EV'. Im have way through my 1 year stay and i will be transporting it back to Utah when I return. My regular range is about 65 in normal weather, 55 in winter snow, and most in summer i've gotten is 72.
Damn, so this tells me to just save my disability money up to at least 10 grand and I’ll be able to get one of these to. Would love what you have to. I want a EV so bad but for a disabled SSI man its hard to save money.
@@BLUExEYEDxSLICKT If you became disabled before 26, you should be eligible for an ABLE account, which while it won't alleviate the low income on SSI, should enable you to exceed the asset limit, though I'm not quite sure how that works with owning a car.
ED or EV??? And what is it that you bought??? Was it the Echo 3??? Any links to the pics you mentioned???
@@DontAskWhyItsJustCuz it's a Smart Fortwo Electric Drive, ED and it is a EV
That changli is just a golf cart for cheap. It doesn't have any crash protection zone. If you are competing this smart against similar priced golf carts, you are still bullying them. At least smart is a real car. Jalopnik said for it's price its better than US made golf cart.
I bought a $7,000 used Smart Fortwo electric from Chicago fine motors April 2019 with 7100 miles. Gets up to 100 mi/per charge city driving only, 70 on the highway.
Very wise!
You cannot get them used for $7000 now. Used ones with 20k miles seem to be around $15k.
I have a smart for two 2017 petrol already done nearly 62,000 miles and I absolutely love it gives me up to 80mg! 🚗⛽️
The only flaw I notice when I drove the petrol ⛽ Smart,that the transmission lags like crazy,compared to the instant torque Smart Ev
Every test and review I've ever seen of your car says it gets a max 40-45mpg so tell me how you are getting 80mpg.
@@monkeysezbegood Virtual signaling aside they are so very cheap to operate and perfect for city use.
@@monkeysezbegood A fair majority of companies still rely on coal for power production. Luckily that is slowly changing. The only thing that is a fact about EVs is that theyre much cheaper to operate generally speaking. Some places are not allowed to have solar panels due to a lack of physical foundation for a home...
@@monkeysezbegood Side note... Im not right wing or left wing.
I bought one about the time this video was made. I bought a 2015 Smart EV for 6400.00 with 28000 miles. I bought it for mostly around town. In the summer I get about 85 to 100 miles in the summer and about 20 miles less when its really cold here in the winter. It goes faster than 78 though lol. Very well made little cars.
I have a Smart 450 and probably going to convert it to electric. Love the car even on petrol as it uses so little.
TFLnow ...Compared to the CHANGLI the Electric⚡️SMART is a ‘RollsRoyce’ !!! The Electric⚡️SMART accelerates 0 to 60 km/h in ~3 seconds, while the CHANGLI barely started to move !!! The two cars are in entirely different leagues, no matter how much the price difference is! 🙄
Actually, smart costs “only” 6x more - 6 x 1200 = 7200
yes, but if you find one, USED, for that price ...
Just checked, cheapest electric smart within 300 miles of me is $9000
$9000/1200= 7.5
there are just electric smart cars sitting around for sale for $7,000 in most places.
The smart car is a design masterpiece. Smart stands for Swatch Mercedes Art or that's what I heard.
My friends and I have had these and loved them! I just got my third coming next week. The cabrio is a game changer. :D
yes, the SMART EQ is definitely better than any other cheap electric car.
Your comparing apples to oranges
YOU’RE comparing…😀
I enjoy jalopniks reading material alot, but very hard to beat tfl's video content on RUclips
I’m sensing a col-lab! I think Jason should drive his Changli to Colorado though...
You are correct sir! And thank you for understanding and appreciating these little smile makers. Preceless.
7000 isn't 7 times more than 1200, it's less than 6 times...
It would be the perfect car for me. Last year I put fewer than 5,000 KM on my car, and the insurance company gave me a discount. I rarely leave the little city where I live. 70 miles would probably last me weeks!
the Changli's Fashion trim level comes with sporty stickers & a backup cam though
I’ve had my smart car for quite some time now I bought a used off a lease It had 9940 miles when I got it I bought it for about $5000 I had the dealer bring it down from 9600 to 5000 The car was a 2013 I bought it in 2015 The car has been solid never had an issue with it it’s also good on gas I fill it up maybe once every two months and when I first got it it only cost me nine bucks to fill it up now it cost about 23 because it does use premium gas But other than that it’s pretty good little car I think it’s done better than my F150 and that’s a new one
How did you negotiate that price? I could use some tips…
@@meep2253probably pointed to similarly priced cars and told the dealer it's massively overprifed
The residual value is much greater so the total cost of ownership during your time counters the initial buy price, the Chinese car is basically a throw away car meant for only low speed/neighborhood driving. The Smart car can be a commuter car.
I'm sure if the Changli cost $7000 it would include all of these features as well. The Changli isn't awesome but again, it's $1200.
Well $1200 plus import tax and shipping.
Or a Tesla model S 2012 150k miles for less than $20k, Which you can have more than 80% battery of the original 220 miles.
Just wait 1 or 2 years from now, All EV price will drop like crazy
Your comment aged like milk
Wasn't the total cost of a Changli around $3,000? Shipping and all.
$3,000 for a golf cart is too much!
@@shitloveaduck I live in a well situated area where golf is king. And free golf carts are not that rare, they are posted every month. People get tired of them and they give them away. Fully functioning.
@@shitloveaduck I'm being honet, go to offerup app, and look under the free section. Depending on your city and neighboring cities you might find some great items for free.
@@shitloveaduck thank you for the tip, I do enjoy a good channel. Well, have a great day!!
Jona Jones In Russia you can get about 70 Soviet Union cars for that $7000 because you can find them for as low as $100. And yes they’re ugly but durable and RWD manuals.
@@shitloveaduck A typical golf cart is better built.
Roman, you're much better at reviewing cars than you are at math... Six times. ;)
That is the way, we are waiting for mainstream electric cars to come down in price
Don't hold your breath...
Also iMiev's are VERY underrated, if you buy at second hand prices!
Only has to be 3x better. Mine was $3600 with more options than yours and black interior.
But yea easily 10x better than a Changli.
These electric Smart cars are SO good!
I recently bought a 2016 Smart Fortwo Passion with the gas engine and the rare 5spd manual for $6000 and it has 27k miles. They fun little cars for commuting in.
TFLnow: Does it have a heater, and AM FM radio, and Android? How will it run in colder climates such as Michigan?
Actually it's not a matter of legal vs illegal. But rather legal classifications. Both cars are legal, but only the one is high-way legal. As one is classified as a "Low Speed Vehicle" the other just a standard "Vehicle".
I don't even need to watch the entire video to answer that question. The Smart car will destroy the $1200 Chinese car in every aspect but the BIGGEST and most important category it will win is not being destroyed and the driver and any passengers killed by a Chevy Suburban going 35 mph and running a red light. By the way I could use a free Smart car once your point is proven.
I want a EV so bad but they gotta go way down on pricing and double their range before I even consider them at this point. Averaging 60 to 100 mile ranges on full charge for mid range EV’s and 220 miles for 40k up to 100k tesla’s isn’t gonna cut it price or range wise to replace gasoline cars. My 2007 Chevy HHR that I have invested $4,500 in all in and is a used low mileage replaced engine and minor other works been done and it runs like a new car now and been traveling out the ass in it the last two years and paid only $900 bucks for it as is and now it gets me 450 to 500 miles every full tank highway driving.
Which I mostly do in it. Trips of 150 to 200 miles on the norm near every other week and it still runs like new. In all I have about $4,500 invested in it over time and all and can go 450 to 500 miles and in a 40k to 100k EV… You can’t even go over 220 miles at most. Plus it takes only a few minutes to fill up a gasoline car and we’re on our way for 450 to 500 more miles. You’d be where I can go days later at 450 to 500 miles having to charge over 4 hrs to days to go the same distance in a EV and EV charge points aren’t at every gas stop. They cost too much, limited range and take too long to charge. Show me a EV that cost less than 5k that can go 450 miles and can fill it in minutes? I’ll wait. You better carry a GAS generator with you every where you go to get to your destination days later. Better bring a tent while you wait for days for it to charge up. I love EV’s don’t get me wrong but they gotta be affordable and go further cause at this point they just aren’t practical right now. Plus I OWN my HHR and my disabled ass can’t own a EV that will go the range my used HHR can go. Plus its a 4 cylinder and goes and goes on little gas. Hell it takes like 48 to 50 bucks to fill it’s 16.2 gal tank and can go 450 to 500 miles on that. Can’t beat that for $4,500.
You guys reallly REEEALLLLYY need to get a fiat 500e! You’ll love it way more than the smart electric. I got mine about two years ago with 19,000 miles for $5100! I’ve already put 20,000 miles on it and it’s never had a single issue other than replacing the tires and windshield wiper fluid.
How much is the battery replacement?
I'm hoping to purchase a Smart Four2 when I downsize to a full time RV. I think it will make a great car to tow and see the sights when traveling. Would love to find a little cutie like you found, with white interior and blue exterior.
I have an2008 smart and had pre-order it. And it has been the least trouble some car loosened yet.
Tweety! That thing actually has the same proportions as Tweety Bird's head!
🤣
That's cool...I like the tailgate feature..it's a nice car Roman🏁🏁🏁
"🤣" is my only comment
Totally agree with you. I wouldn’t buy an electric car from China and have it delivered.
licensed as NEV or LSEV it does not require insurance or a drivers license. Basically it is a golf cart vs the Smart which is real car. The insurane and drivers license required for the Smart car is a point for the elderly who cannot acquire a license or [ay the insurance..
Well now you need to put 6k of upgrades in the Chinese car and then see if it's better.
My wheelchair is faster than that Chang-li but I’d rather crawl than be in the Smart. Plus who compared these two? Obviously there’s no comparison really. For the $1200 they paid it’s an awesome little neighborhood car that’s unique. Just my two cents lol
The roof is poly carbonate so the CG is really low giving astounding handling, a fantastic student car.
TFL for the win!!!
They were about $3k, all in on the Chinese car. I bought a used Chevy Volt for $4k. All of the comforts of any modern car. I would much rather have it compared to it OR this Smartcar.
Not a fair comparison price wise. New vehicle vs. used.
I felt the same way watching the video about the Changli, Roman. Smart Car all day, any day.
Swatch-Mercedes-ART
venture between Swatch watches and Mercedes
The 10 times more expensive speakers are not even double better.
The problem of those Chinese car is the safety issues:
All together has only one chance.
But I will say it's a good replacement for scooter.
Aging wheels weego should join this challenge 🤣
I don’t mean to nitpick however comparing the Chinese electric car come to the $7000 electric car is unfair challenge or comparison because the out-of-pocket expense of the Chinese electric cars about $4000..
The SMART is a MERCEDES-BENZ, not some random crappy brand
Swatch Mercedes Art is “ Smart”
I was waiting to see if anybody got that. Also, the "C" with the arrow in it pointing to the right means "Compact, Forward thinking."
wouldn't 6x be more appropriate or is my math off? LOL 6x1200 - 7200?
So what's next? A Yugo vs a Rolls Royce? A Beatle vs a Bentley?
Brought a 2013 smart electric almost 6 years ago for $6500 on E Bay , had 7500 miles on it and now has over 72000 of troubl free mile , this is not my first EV , had a few Commuta cars , a Kewet and a crappy Chinese car sold by Zap which I had to work on daily basis just to keep it running , now that I am retired the smart will last for years , pickup is quicker than a stock gas smart , top speed is more than I need , my vote is Best Buy for quality in build , life of the cheep Chinese car is when you get tired of working on it or it just rust away to dust
It's actually only 5.8x more expensive so....even better.
*Comparing a Smart 4 two to a cheap ChangLi is way to unfair.*
mentioned it at least a couple of times but didn't quite include it in the equation: the Changli car costs $1.3K NEW, while the smart car costs $7K used ... should i go on?
The only problem I see is that I can't find any dealer's in the United States who sell these types of small electric cars.
Also, I don't think the ChangLi is street legal; there's no seat belts.
I only just saw this video but I have to say the one thing that makes the Smart car infinitely better than the the Chinese golf kart is that, throughout the UK and many European countries, the Changli isn't even road legal 😅😅😅
You can get faster & better range out of a electric bike with pedals then the changli. To bad US does not let the Honda E in right now. That seems really cool. Those smart fortwo's are starting to go really cheap because they are out of warranty & no longer available & hard to find someone that can service them.
*New Teslas don’t come with a new car smell.*
They come with an Elon Musk.
This car better for low income rider , it’s much better with any other cars
That's a deathtrap I've been in a junkyard that shows real world results from a crash not tests. I wouldn't get in one because my life depends on it.
*You have perfectly right about that SMART and the SMART options but JUST for the CITY side !
SO,i believe also Chinese made $900 Changli Nemeca it is REALLY perfect for country side to get to shopping and to get materials,tools and persons hired to work. They cannot use tractor to get at the farm and... it will be a PAIN to use a SMART car like this one, That means peoples need cheap products to do some cheap works instead of destroying SMART thing for a cheap work and to save some money also.
This is my purely and straight opinion. Have a fabulous week and a BEST marvelous presentation like this one for the next round*
don't forget air conditioning.. I bought mine used for $7000, and got a $1900 rebate from the state.
Take my money 💰 Where can I get one? 🤪
I enjoyed the comparison. But you are really comparing apples to oranges. First of all you have a 5 to 7 year old used car and are comparing it to a brand new car. How about comparing your car to a $300 used Changli? I really wouldn't feel comfortable in either car for fear of encountering an SUV. But is there really ever the perfect car. What counts is that you are happy with your car, just as the guys with the Changli. Thanks.
Like someone else said, the Fiat 500e is much better than either and you can buy one for about the same $7000 as the Smart electric.
It depends if you FWD or RWD
Yea they also overpaid for the Smart. Mine was $3600. 500e is about $7k
What's more interesting is they both have the same Zytek 55 motor. Yet the Smart is rwd.
Ask them what the Cangli cost after shipping and getting it through customs.
Air conditioning..how cool is that;). You tell me
Where can I buy this
You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it!
Based off your review Roman, I accept that what you believe here to be the better choice is in fact, better. I don't even need to go to the link. lol Tho I know those guys and used to enjoy the content years ago. :)
Seems like this video is viewable by link only, since I saw it in my feed. It doesn’t show up on the channel. Great comparison anyway.
Very nice car , it saves more money, inshaallah I am goona buy it soon
Dumb question , can you use these at Tesla stations
Now if they can put solar pannels on roof to recharge too. 🤔🤔🤔😋🌝🌞⭐🌟
Looks nice but the 70-mile range is pathetic.
Roman I can do you one better Fiat 500e, you can buy them for 5 grand. Or the Nissan Leaf for about 3 grand because it can fast charge
This is just a video of a guy bragging about finding a good deal. It's not much of a comparison unless you can reliably find one at that price. Typically they're around 9000-15000 used.
Tulsa, Oklahoma!
Just keep it in my f350s truck bed for a spare, like a donut, just drive it to get to a safe place
Quite interested until i heard 80 mile range and see likely 55 to 60 in the comments. For city use I'll stick to my electric assisted bicycle. Gets the same range and can use the special bicycle lanes.. the quickest way to get round my left wing controlled, car hating, congested city. 60 70 mile range.. really !? No wonder nobody wants one.
Well said.:) love my Smart Car❤
The plastic bumper cover on my car goes for $800, not cheap.
Odometer in miles! That is Roman!
Used Egolfs are so under rated
Yeah but the smart car is a practical very useful car, and the new Tesla's are just fukn luxury sports cars that are not practical because they're still too big, especially for the city use!
More like comparing a real car to a unusable golf cart.
My reason with no actually knowledge behind it would be that they call it that to make it seem like a smart purchase and that if bought it would be a smart idea.
Marketing strategy
6:55 yup because all the cars before the 70s were not real cars. Jokes aside ,people don't need alot of these things and the savings can be applied to other more important parts of the car.
A glorified golf cart vs what is equivalent to a covered motorcycle (smart). If argue nether is more than a people mover and would argue the base model 3 is 5x the vehicle that smart ever was.
my family has owned three petrol smarts since they first came on the market. they are much more than they seem to be to most people. i drove a 44 ton petrol tanker before i retired but love our 2017 smart.we only need a two seater car now and my wife loves driving it,its a twin plate auto very smooth.
@@johnbellamy6449 no doubt they are efficient people movers but they lack a lot of flexibility requiring a larger vehicle as a backup or run the risk of being handicapped on capacity and passenger capacity
No crumple zone.My life is worth more .
You hit the nail on the head🔨
The Changli won't fold when you hit something. It can't go fast enough.