Watched the full video, lots of hard work, and strategically done. Nice job as these tenants will love you! The drywall hoist is a game changer too! 👍🏼
Looks like this should be an episode on Dirty Jobs. Great video, I definitely learn something new and informative after watching a video of yours. Keep up the great work!
Fantastic video and nice work! Masks are always a good idea with any dust. We don't claim that the SONOpan is harmless, there are no glues or chemicals in it. The panels are made from 100% recycled wood with natural binders and food grade colour but like you said, no dust is good to breath in.
You are absolutely correct. I should have clarified that the supplier we purchased it from mentioned it was harm-less, not Sonopan directly. Sorry for the miss communication in the video. That said, I am overly impressed with the product and it’s STC rating, it made a HUGE difference in the sound transfer through this unit. Great product that we will continue to use and promote to our clients. Thanks for the visit
What length of screws did you use to install the drywall into the RC? We found that 1" screws for the 5/8 drywall was still making slight contact with the sonopan, wrecking the decoupling effort. But I cannot find 7/8" drywall screws anywhere!
Did that help significantly with the impact noise? Wooden frame building, I am considering tearing my actual ceiling or going over it with resilient channels as well due to super stompy upstairs neighbors. They have redone their flooring but cheaped out on the underlay, plus went for tiles in some areas... Heavy heal strikers😢 was it worth it in the end?
@@emilieoim912 we went to the extreme and we could still hear muffled thumps, to answer your question did it significantly help, yes however it did not totally eliminate the Bigfoot upstairs. Unfortunately sound travels through vibration so wherever you have building materials in contact with one another sound will find its path. All the best, I feel your pain
I don’t think that is true. Resilient channel basically allows the drywall to hang from it, resulting in a air space between materials. Thank you and thanks for watching/commenting Cheers!
This was really cool to see beginning to end! Also very cool to see how you soundproofed the ceiling while keeping the first layer of drywall!! 🎉 one thing I noticed, was the resilient channels seemed slightly bent, I’m guessing that’s acceptable but musta been tricky getting the drywall and screws to only penetrate the channel and not into the sonoboard? Yeah? 🎉
Thank you, ya this was a cool project, a little bit overkill but it’s what the home owner wanted. There was a lot of tricky parts to this project but it worked out awesome in the end. I’m glad I had the opportunity to share it and also that you enjoyed it.
The full cost on the soundproofing was $32/sq/ft. Includes blow in insulation, Sonopan panel, sound bar, 5/8 type x drywall and labour. I will say it was a lot of work.
I’m not sure I agree totally with that statement. Resilient channel essentially helps to create an air space between materials, whether that space is between a joist and drywall or in our situation sound board and drywall, I don’t think it matters. In both applications the air space to dampen sound has been accomplished. I appreciate your feedback. Thanks
if I screw Sonopan right to the Floor joist then add Resilent Channel and Drywall, wouldn't the Sono be coupled to the floor joist, making the RC Less effective?
It might be a little less effective however it’s still would have some level of sound protection due to the density of the Sonopan board. You might want to contact Sonopan directly for a more concrete answer.
@@DIYBuilt I thought about it but i don't think they would give me the honest answer if it was worse. Im thinking of using SonoPan inside a wall cavity, Cutting it and placing between the framing and then adding Safe and Sound, RC and Drywall. Thoughts?
@@22rsx because I think safe and sound would provide enough density within the stud cavities by itself. Sound travels by vibration through materials so with the safe and sound insulation you will have already affectively created the density you need. Where the true sound protection comes from will be the air space that is created between the stud and the drywall via the resilient channel.
@@DIYBuilt should there be a small gap between the sonopan and the walls? ive heard there should be a gap between the drywall and the walls for good decoupling then filling the gaps with green glue sealant but cant seem to find a video that talks about if there should alo be a gap between the walls and sonopan
@@wiiiz3 I would say no gap between sonopan and wall, using green glue caulking is something I would recommend and maintaining a gap by using rez bar is the best way to go. The client in this video was very specific in the way he wanted it done but if it were up to me I would have not dense packed the joists space as much as we did. Sound transfer resonates through materials, so if you have more air space between materials is probably a better way to go
Have you heard feedback from the people living in the unit if it was helpful and deadened all the noise? I soundproofed the lower unit in the building I bought so I was just curious, as you used different method and materials than I did. Thanks!
Update: I recently talked with the owner and he said the soundproofing made an incredible positive impact of the elimination of sound transfer between units. Not completely soundproof But much better than expected, he and his family are super happy.
@@DIYBuilt did the blow in insulation and the other parts help with footfall at all? We likely won't add extra layers as we already have a double ceiling, but we live in a duplex where the upstairs tenant is a bit heavy footed, and so we've thought of at least trying blow insulation. We're lucky too, because the second ceiling is all a single cavity, not joists to work around!
Thanks, it turned out great and made a huge impact on the sound transfer. As for costs, not including the equipment rentals. For the blown in insulation it was about $1.10/sqft, the Sonopan board was $1.00/sqft and resilient sound-bar with another layer of 5/8” drywall was another $1.25/sqft. Total all in, not including labor was $3.35 per sqft. Hope that helps, thanks for the visit, cheers!
That's great. I was hoping to soundproof my ceilling too. I never thought of the foam you put first. Do you think this foam can be à DIY projet or to use it you need skill from a pro? Well I see you need a special blower but maybe I could rent it if its better than my actual Idea.
Great video and great job, that seems to be a lot of weight on the first set of drywall. So the sonopan got screwed into the first 2 layers of drywall. Then the resbar got screwed into the sonopan and the drywall or was it screwed into the studs?
@@DIYBuilt ok, what type and length screws did you use. Reason I’m asking , I need to do my ceiling, having similar noise issues with the upstairs people.
That was painful to watch. You should have just torn out the pre-existing drywall, put batt insulation in, attached your channels, then the sonopan, then the drywall with green goo between 2 layers. What you accidently did was create a triple leaf effect with the second air gap your made. Small air spaces transmit sound very well and can resonate with the layers below. You also didn't seal up around the light fixtures so sound is leaking through there too.
I agree with you on all your points, admittedly I didn’t know about green glue but after reading up on it, it sounds like the right way to go. This was one of those jobs where the customer was adamant about doing it his way, in fact I did suggest some of the same ideas you mentioned but in the end, the customer is always right. Thanks for the tips, appreciate your insight.
Watched the full video, lots of hard work, and strategically done. Nice job as these tenants will love you! The drywall hoist is a game changer too! 👍🏼
Thanks brother! It made a huge difference, definitely a lot of work and drywall lift is the best, saves so much time. Cheers!
Looks like this should be an episode on Dirty Jobs. Great video, I definitely learn something new and informative after watching a video of yours. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the visit and your kind words, God bless.
Great instruction on your process. It certainly was a lot of work but I'm sure it would dampen much of the noise. Excellent video.
Many ways to dampen sound. In this case the owner wanted what he wanted and that’s what we did. Thanks for checking it out brother.
Fantastic video and nice work! Masks are always a good idea with any dust. We don't claim that the SONOpan is harmless, there are no glues or chemicals in it. The panels are made from 100% recycled wood with natural binders and food grade colour but like you said, no dust is good to breath in.
You are absolutely correct. I should have clarified that the supplier we purchased it from mentioned it was harm-less, not Sonopan directly. Sorry for the miss communication in the video. That said, I am overly impressed with the product and it’s STC rating, it made a HUGE difference in the sound transfer through this unit. Great product that we will continue to use and promote to our clients. Thanks for the visit
@Steve Talian No, I don't think it's necessary
What length of screws did you use to install the drywall into the RC? We found that 1" screws for the 5/8 drywall was still making slight contact with the sonopan, wrecking the decoupling effort. But I cannot find 7/8" drywall screws anywhere!
We used 1” drywall screws too
@@DIYBuilt okay! Good to know. It seems that's the only option. Hopefully short circuiting isn't the case when going into the sonopan?
Did that help significantly with the impact noise? Wooden frame building, I am considering tearing my actual ceiling or going over it with resilient channels as well due to super stompy upstairs neighbors. They have redone their flooring but cheaped out on the underlay, plus went for tiles in some areas... Heavy heal strikers😢 was it worth it in the end?
@@emilieoim912 we went to the extreme and we could still hear muffled thumps, to answer your question did it significantly help, yes however it did not totally eliminate the Bigfoot upstairs. Unfortunately sound travels through vibration so wherever you have building materials in contact with one another sound will find its path.
All the best, I feel your pain
@DIYBuilt thank you!
great job i heard you have screw the resilling channel direct to the ceiling joist because soundproof wont work if not done like that
I don’t think that is true. Resilient channel basically allows the drywall to hang from it, resulting in a air space between materials. Thank you and thanks for watching/commenting
Cheers!
This was really cool to see beginning to end! Also very cool to see how you soundproofed the ceiling while keeping the first layer of drywall!! 🎉 one thing I noticed, was the resilient channels seemed slightly bent, I’m guessing that’s acceptable but musta been tricky getting the drywall and screws to only penetrate the channel and not into the sonoboard? Yeah? 🎉
Thank you, ya this was a cool project, a little bit overkill but it’s what the home owner wanted.
There was a lot of tricky parts to this project but it worked out awesome in the end.
I’m glad I had the opportunity to share it and also that you enjoyed it.
What would something like this cost? I may need to do something similar to my current rental unit.
The full cost on the soundproofing was $32/sq/ft. Includes blow in insulation, Sonopan panel, sound bar, 5/8 type x drywall and labour. I will say it was a lot of work.
Hi. Can this material be used under floor?
No I don’t believe so
lots of hard work but i heard you should install resilient channel directly on the floor joists for it to work effectively.
I’m not sure I agree totally with that statement. Resilient channel essentially helps to create an air space between materials, whether that space is between a joist and drywall or in our situation sound board and drywall, I don’t think it matters. In both applications the air space to dampen sound has been accomplished.
I appreciate your feedback.
Thanks
Do you have any ideas for soundproofing a floor?
what's the cost per sq foot on this would you estimate?
With the blow in inso, res bar, and 5/8 drywall, plus the rental equipment material only was about $3.30 sq/ft
if I screw Sonopan right to the Floor joist then add Resilent Channel and Drywall, wouldn't the Sono be coupled to the floor joist, making the RC Less effective?
It might be a little less effective however it’s still would have some level of sound protection due to the density of the Sonopan board. You might want to contact Sonopan directly for a more concrete answer.
@@DIYBuilt I thought about it but i don't think they would give me the honest answer if it was worse. Im thinking of using SonoPan inside a wall cavity, Cutting it and placing between the framing and then adding Safe and Sound, RC and Drywall. Thoughts?
@@22rsx honestly if you’re going to use safe and sound plus rc then drywall, I think you’d be wasting your money buying Sonopan.
@@DIYBuilt why do you say that?
@@22rsx because I think safe and sound would provide enough density within the stud cavities by itself. Sound travels by vibration through materials so with the safe and sound insulation you will have already affectively created the density you need. Where the true sound protection comes from will be the air space that is created between the stud and the drywall via the resilient channel.
how did you figure out where the wood studs are when drilling the resilient channels?
We had them marked on the walls from the beginning of the project
@@DIYBuilt should there be a small gap between the sonopan and the walls? ive heard there should be a gap between the drywall and the walls for good decoupling then filling the gaps with green glue sealant but cant seem to find a video that talks about if there should alo be a gap between the walls and sonopan
@@wiiiz3 I would say no gap between sonopan and wall, using green glue caulking is something I would recommend and maintaining a gap by using rez bar is the best way to go. The client in this video was very specific in the way he wanted it done but if it were up to me I would have not dense packed the joists space as much as we did. Sound transfer resonates through materials, so if you have more air space between materials is probably a better way to go
Have you heard feedback from the people living in the unit if it was helpful and deadened all the noise? I soundproofed the lower unit in the building I bought so I was just curious, as you used different method and materials than I did. Thanks!
This is still in the reno stage, so the new owner hasn’t moved in yet. I will definitely let you know in about a month
What methods did you use?
Update: I recently talked with the owner and he said the soundproofing made an incredible positive impact of the elimination of sound transfer between units. Not completely soundproof But much better than expected, he and his family are super happy.
@@DIYBuilt Thank you for this update. It's appreciative.
@@DIYBuilt did the blow in insulation and the other parts help with footfall at all? We likely won't add extra layers as we already have a double ceiling, but we live in a duplex where the upstairs tenant is a bit heavy footed, and so we've thought of at least trying blow insulation. We're lucky too, because the second ceiling is all a single cavity, not joists to work around!
We need this job for our condo in Kauai. Would it be possible you can help me there?
Possibly when are you wanting to do it?
This is awesome - curious what this cost roughly? And how would you work out per sq.ft the cost is? thanks!
Thanks, it turned out great and made a huge impact on the sound transfer. As for costs, not including the equipment rentals. For the blown in insulation it was about $1.10/sqft, the Sonopan board was $1.00/sqft and resilient sound-bar with another layer of 5/8” drywall was another $1.25/sqft.
Total all in, not including labor was $3.35 per sqft. Hope that helps, thanks for the visit, cheers!
@@DIYBuilt Ok cool, thanks for this info! I feel like this is a great solution for semi-detached homes. Great vids!
Is it 100 percent sound proof or way less?
No not a 100% but I would say 85-90%
@@DIYBuilt its good i just dont want to listen heavy footsteps or movie couches.
That's great. I was hoping to soundproof my ceilling too. I never thought of the foam you put first. Do you think this foam can be à DIY projet or to use it you need skill from a pro? Well I see you need a special blower but maybe I could rent it if its better than my actual Idea.
Definitely a DIY project, we rented the machine for $65
Sound will leak from the Pot light
@@SamiaHalab5315 yes it sure will.
Thank you for such interesting information, Thank you for such interesting information
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Great video and great job, that seems to be a lot of weight on the first set of drywall. So the sonopan got screwed into the first 2 layers of drywall. Then the resbar got screwed into the sonopan and the drywall or was it screwed into the studs?
The Resbar was screwed into the joists
@@DIYBuilt ok, what type and length screws did you use. Reason I’m asking , I need to do my ceiling, having similar noise issues with the upstairs people.
@@Computerman4711 we used
2 1/2” screws to anchor the resbar to the floor joists
@@DIYBuilt so that space looks like around 900sqft. What was the cost for materials and labour? You guys are out in BC and I’m in Woodstock ON.
@@Computerman4711 each layer of sound protection was around $1 per sq/ft each. So total was around $4 sq/ft material only
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Thanks, a lot of work, but definitely worth it. Cheers!
I would have only drilled small holes in Sonopan and plugged them once wire was through. instead of full 4” for lights. Good work though
Yes that may have been a better way, thanks for the visit
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That was painful to watch. You should have just torn out the pre-existing drywall, put batt insulation in, attached your channels, then the sonopan, then the drywall with green goo between 2 layers.
What you accidently did was create a triple leaf effect with the second air gap your made. Small air spaces transmit sound very well and can resonate with the layers below. You also didn't seal up around the light fixtures so sound is leaking through there too.
I agree with you on all your points, admittedly I didn’t know about green glue but after reading up on it, it sounds like the right way to go. This was one of those jobs where the customer was adamant about doing it his way, in fact I did suggest some of the same ideas you mentioned but in the end, the customer is always right. Thanks for the tips, appreciate your insight.