Jello Biafra on Anarchism

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • From "Anarchism in America"
    This clip is courtesy of the fine folk at www.pacificstreetfilms.com. You can find them on RUclips @ / pacfilm

Комментарии • 141

  • @ForgottenRebel77
    @ForgottenRebel77 14 лет назад +41

    2:10 THANK YOU!!!! Finally!! I'm so used to hearing other "punks" say they're Anarchist but dont care about the government at all. I mean how can one oppose something and be indifferent to it? Take a stand, believe what you want! thats what punk is really about. Not studded jackets or hairstyles.
    Jello 4 Prez!!!

    • @arnonuhm4022
      @arnonuhm4022 3 года назад +4

      I guess lotsa undercover punks out there. No studs, no leather, no died and spiked hairs!

    • @natelandherr5202
      @natelandherr5202 2 года назад +2

      Not only that, but they ignore Capitalism too as if the rich arent only on it for themselves

  • @gonzalosierra2393
    @gonzalosierra2393 12 лет назад +34

    when i listen to albuns by DK i understand that they in 1984 talked about what we are living today, corporations werent that big in the 80s but they knew where things here going, and now DK songs have come true, corporations and governments and banks control us all, and the grip is getting tighter and tighter and people dumber and dumber

  • @cogito919
    @cogito919 Год назад +6

    Love Dead Kennedys. I feel like they’re the closest we had in the 80’s to the English anarcho-punk scene in terms of sound and message.

    • @mrbevelaqua8649
      @mrbevelaqua8649 Год назад

      Spot on, DK and SubHumAns are still the two best at opening up the mental floodgates

  • @heroesandcons09
    @heroesandcons09 13 лет назад +20

    Jello Biafra for president.

  • @EclecticSceptic
    @EclecticSceptic 11 лет назад +23

    Anarchy isn't some kind of 'oh if only people were all perfect, we could have anarchy'. Anarchy is a necessity precisely BECAUSE of how people treat each other, the abuse of power structures and so forth.

    • @isetmfriendsofire
      @isetmfriendsofire 3 года назад +1

      I know this is super old, but can you elaborate on this? Now with 7 years of experience since?

    • @EclecticSceptic
      @EclecticSceptic 3 года назад +9

      @@isetmfriendsofire If people were 'perfect', authoritarian modes of organising human society wouldn't be such a problem because people in positions of authority would always act to the best of their ability in the public interest (etc.). Think the Stoic Marcus Aurelius as emperor of Rome - but he was an extremely unusual person in history.
      The reality, i.e. the world we actually live in, is totally different. People go power mad, pursue their own career, riches, glory, lie, are bought off, act cowardly, and so on.
      The sensible thing is, in short, to decentralise power as much as practical. That's the essential purpose of democracy (actual democracy), 'political' and 'economic'. Also why any 'anarchism' that eschews democracy is socially irrelevant.
      This is just one aspect but it answers your question.
      In a positive sense, you need a social system which facilitates people cooperating and resolving their differences in a productive, win-win, way.
      Good will is fairly irrelevant when institutional incentives are anti-social. 'Good' people achieve little on a board of directors when market force dictate that acting on good will means economic annihilation. That's why you must change the system, not just populate it with do gooders. But I digress.

    • @carkey4163
      @carkey4163 Год назад +3

      @@EclecticSceptic that’s actually so sick you were able to respond to them after 7 years

  • @waIIflower
    @waIIflower 15 лет назад +4

    Boulder in Colorado. I love his accent too; it's very soothing.

  • @SLACKINGJUGGALO
    @SLACKINGJUGGALO 14 лет назад +9

    punk has and always will be to me more then music

  • @leitchee
    @leitchee 15 лет назад +8

    Music is still relevent, What a stage dive by jello!!

  • @Josephdorf03
    @Josephdorf03 16 лет назад +7

    DK in the magical year of 1984? Awesome!!
    ~now it is nineteen eighty-four, knock-knock at-a your front door!~

  • @rockabillysilly
    @rockabillysilly 15 лет назад +2

    2:04...sadly almost everyone I work with thinks that way...

  • @JCR101393
    @JCR101393 15 лет назад +1

    ah man! they cut it short b4 the song ended. jello has an awesome stage presence

  • @utube9000
    @utube9000 12 лет назад +3

    I largely agree with the #1 poster above, but creating a society that is "non-hierarchical" is impossible. There will ALWAYS be some form of hierarchy because some people DO THINGS BETTER than other people and those people will naturally be looked to as "leaders."
    Jello Biafra himself is at the top of a "punk rock" hierarchy as is Henry Rollins and Ian McKaye. In fact, since the # 1 poster above is at the top of this RUclips thread, he is part of a hierarchy too!

  • @rickc2102
    @rickc2102 5 лет назад +1

    Ray looking quite dapper in that concert footage 😎

  • @JamesDeWeaver
    @JamesDeWeaver 4 года назад +4

    "If you liked 1984 ...................... you'll love 2020"!
    "To a new world of old God's & invisible monsters".

  • @utube9000
    @utube9000 12 лет назад +1

    @ofilhodaviuva Hierarchy is just a social ordering system, not necessarily connected to government and not necessarily a bad thing. Recognition for one's art does indeed create a sense of hierarchy because some artists are better than others. In the world of classical music, Yo-Yo Ma is "high" in the hierarchy. People naturally gravitate towards "leaders" or "high achievers" in any given social system. Hierarchy is unavoidable.

  • @wackytabacky44
    @wackytabacky44 13 лет назад +1

    this video is not really that much of jello on anarchism but more of the song we've got a bigger problem now

  • @Commiechu
    @Commiechu 14 лет назад

    @obnoxiousnickname
    Orwell was a Trotskyist-leaning Democratic Socialist, Noam Chomsky is an Anarchist, Zinn was somewhere in between these two.

  • @502skater502
    @502skater502 15 лет назад

    He didnt change the words at all. This song is called we gotta bigger prolem now, its on the in god we trust inc. ep.

  • @1Heretic
    @1Heretic 14 лет назад

    Many kudos to you!!!

  • @punklover99
    @punklover99 15 лет назад

    good observation

  • @NoSleepTilDetox
    @NoSleepTilDetox 16 лет назад

    Thanks for posting, good vid

  • @punklover99
    @punklover99 15 лет назад +1

    he might run for prez in 2012

  • @KurtMcGowan
    @KurtMcGowan 13 лет назад

    @BeatnikFromHell666 ... that's a lot to get thru! x

  • @787Dusty
    @787Dusty 13 лет назад +1

    jello sounds like he needs to blow his nose hahaha
    but he is so AWESOME!!!! i would totally vote for him for prez!!!

  • @Leftovervictim1991
    @Leftovervictim1991 14 лет назад

    Vote 4 Ron Paul 2012!
    If u want something close to true anarchism, vote libertarian, Ron Paul is the anti-government politician and the only man in congress that is fighting for our Freedom and civil Libertys

  • @8000cheese
    @8000cheese 13 лет назад

    In a democracy the government should fear the citizens. In America, it is quite the opposite.

  • @rhysjenks
    @rhysjenks 15 лет назад

    ye! hes really good when it comes to taking the piss out of people. he can just change lyrics on the spot

  • @conors4430
    @conors4430 9 лет назад +4

    I don't know if anarchism is neat enough to be put into a political ideal. its really a method as I understand it. chompsky talks about how anarchism can be a tool for tearing down what doesn't work when it doesn't work and starting a fresh. s it is about the self regulation of a society where you have small groups of people who determine there own destiny in their area with the combined power of everyone in the community and anything that interrupts that cohesion is removed. similar ideals to socialism in a way but using different methods, using people to enforce social cohesion not the state imposing it on the popul population. see the anarcho cyndicalism in spain, it's been sprouting over there for 80 plus years. worker run and owned enterprises etc

  • @BeeRsounds
    @BeeRsounds 15 лет назад

    it's also interesting that the United States only intervenes in countries under the flag of 'humanitarian intervention', when they have something to gain. Hence why they have left Darfur alone, the Chinese have a monopoly on the fuel supplies there.

  • @Punk93Metal
    @Punk93Metal 14 лет назад

    No it doesn't. You see, music doesn't define who I am. I define who I am. Just because I like the Dead Kennedys doesn't mean have to agree with their policies.

  • @Commiechu
    @Commiechu 14 лет назад

    @obnoxiousnickname Well "Libertarian Socialists" are a bit different than Democratic Socialists, the main difference being that Libertarian Socialists usually call for revolution.

  • @xxmetallica47xx
    @xxmetallica47xx 15 лет назад

    what i mean by that is that as you sink more into a socialist economy we become dependant on the government for support. such as those collecting welfare. in many situations its not wrong to help those in need but we have to stay closer to "equal opportunity" and farther from "equal payoff"

  • @djboony
    @djboony 15 лет назад

    chillin out maxing relaxing and cooling shooting somw b-ball outside of the school.....lol

  • @andrea22333
    @andrea22333 Месяц назад

    🤘🏻🖤

  • @xxmetallica47xx
    @xxmetallica47xx 15 лет назад

    well yeah. less government is the way this country started. and it worked for a long time. recently with the government getting more and more involved our countrys been slowely sinking down. both economically and moraly

  • @DoctorSess
    @DoctorSess 14 лет назад

    thanks atleast someone understands what im saying...people also need to realize Anarchy is not Chaos...its just a system without a centralized governing body...it doesnt mean that we would be killing each other in the streets...although maybe we would.

  • @rhysjenks
    @rhysjenks 14 лет назад

    too fucking rite mate!

  • @EclecticSceptic
    @EclecticSceptic 11 лет назад

    Sorry to hear about your father, but don't give up, because we can live in peace if we try hard enough.

  • @CaeserAexix
    @CaeserAexix 13 лет назад

    @Problems123 even the best insurance companies spend time searching for loop-holes that enable them to withhold money that YOU GAVE THEM! The health-care bill may not be perfect (because the public option was removed and lobbyists fucked the bill's ass with pork) but it is better and far more ethical than any for-profit institution.

  • @carnifex714
    @carnifex714 13 лет назад

    @BeatnikFromHell666 we need peace and smarts for it to work

  • @ubernerd35
    @ubernerd35 15 лет назад

    Let's put it this way, Republicans want less govt. spending unless it's military spending.

  • @CatholicTruthAngel
    @CatholicTruthAngel 10 лет назад

    I think he is a Distributist in practice, especially since he started his own record label.

  • @ofilhodaviuva
    @ofilhodaviuva 12 лет назад

    @utube9000 I guess there is not that kind of hierarchy whereby you place Biafra, Rollins and McKaye as "leaders". In my opinion they are people who has gotten attention for their work, not as part of hierarchy, but essencially as notable artists.

  • @obnoxiousnickname
    @obnoxiousnickname 14 лет назад

    @chrisolaf530 With Noam it's really hard to tell, I've heard interviews where he talks about how great anarchy is but then I hear ones where he trashes it as an impractical theory and talks about socialism. The best bet would be that he is a libertarian socialist which pretty much falls under the umbrella of democratic socialism

  • @Beerlejuice
    @Beerlejuice 16 лет назад

    You know if you take the song Bleed for me and replace Ronnie with Bush it sounds like it was made just a month ago. Same thing with if you replace Reagan with Bush in "We got a bigger problem now" it sounds like it was made just a year ago. It's really spooky. Dead Kennedys rule.

  • @bubblegum6151
    @bubblegum6151 7 лет назад +2

    What is this version of California Uber alles it's lyrically better tenfold!

    • @collinjensen6671
      @collinjensen6671 6 лет назад

      Bubble Gum “we have bigger problems now” it’s on in god we trust and it uses a lot of jazz elements too, it’s pretty good

  • @Joeskateapool
    @Joeskateapool 14 лет назад

    well I understand that. I just guess I was thinking you like their music because you agree with the message they want to portray about certain topics. its you and I am not trying to judge in any way

  • @AIKevorkian
    @AIKevorkian 14 лет назад

    If the Holy Bible was still being written, some 1900 years after the Book of Revelation, Eric (Jello) would definitely be included in it. "The Book of Jello". Only problem is the Book of Jello might be longer than the entire Bible itself.

  • @Wuss2ns
    @Wuss2ns 15 лет назад

    Jello has a cold.

  • @captainclayman
    @captainclayman 14 лет назад

    i would read the shit out of that book

  • @KurtMcGowan
    @KurtMcGowan 15 лет назад

    For chrissakes have an opinion!!

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 13 лет назад

    ves with codes of conduct and such, we are by nature very gentile creatures we just have to let down all this armour of sensibilities beliefs and such and just relax and fall back into nature dont worry reality isn't out to get you you belong to it

  • @Wuss2ns
    @Wuss2ns 15 лет назад

    Around thre playground is where he spent most of his days...

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 12 лет назад

    thats what most people gotta do if they stay real keep ya head up

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 11 лет назад +1

    um, how would you suggest the habits of behavior would chance at all. I´m not saying anarchy is an ideal I´m saying implementing anarchy on any larger scale than could fit comfortably on a few acres is damn near impossible and therefore a waste of energy when we could be focusing on implementing things in our own life that DO work.

  • @obnoxiousnickname
    @obnoxiousnickname 14 лет назад

    @chrisolaf530 Well the divide between reform and revolution is something that has always been present in politics. While it is a big problem with the radical left, most leftist political theories have more to say about how a government is to be run rather than the reform vs revolution. Libertarian Socialism is basically Democratic Socialism with an emphasis on individual rights and freedoms instead of economic equality and classlessness

  • @1Heretic
    @1Heretic 14 лет назад

    Well thats what i m talking about, but no one ever listens

  • @Punk93Metal
    @Punk93Metal 14 лет назад

    I have no opinion on Obama or politics but the DK's rule! They don't have a bad song!

  • @Punk93Metal
    @Punk93Metal 14 лет назад

    Oh I knew that. Don't worry.

  • @Oi325
    @Oi325 15 лет назад

    jello biafra rules

  • @KurtMcGowan
    @KurtMcGowan 15 лет назад

    FOR CHRISSAKES HAVE AN OPINION!!!!!!

  • @Wuss2ns
    @Wuss2ns 15 лет назад

    San Francisco.

  • @CaeserAexix
    @CaeserAexix 13 лет назад

    @Problems123 I don't understand you....This video is about not being selfish or greedy and here you are hating on a flawed yet inherently selfless proposition. the Government can take better care of you than a corporation who's only goal is to leech as much money out of you as possible without actually having to pay for your well being. Insurance companies only offer better coverage because it is the only commodity they have to bargain with....continued

  • @chaosPneumatic
    @chaosPneumatic 16 лет назад

    Either that or Wikipedia is fucking with me....

  • @Josephdorf03
    @Josephdorf03 16 лет назад

    What do you mean "roman?" Anyway, I know he's talking about Orwell's novel. I've read it.

  • @GK95_
    @GK95_ 13 лет назад

    @BeatnikFromHell666 agreed, however most anarchist societies would wipe out the monetary system anyway.

  • @vaskadenisov
    @vaskadenisov 13 лет назад

    @BeatnikFromHell666 So how much land is required for, say, one family to sustain themselves for one year growing their own food? Multiply that by the amount of families in the world then divide that by the amount of arable land available on the planet and tell me if it's sustainable.

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 13 лет назад

    @oftenlostinwhat kinda like jello i guess

  • @chaosPneumatic
    @chaosPneumatic 16 лет назад

    He was almost made a candidate to represent the Green Party in the 2000 election, wasn't he?

  • @fighisver
    @fighisver 13 лет назад

    @arachnoblaster No gods, no managers - Choking victim :0

  • @VoluntraryismNottheState
    @VoluntraryismNottheState 15 лет назад

    Jello's saying "think for yourself" unless you're Republican. That's a contradiction.

  • @liquidsk8ter
    @liquidsk8ter 13 лет назад

    Can someone please tell me how anarchy would work? So we can't believe in god? And how would we get an education or learn the laws of the road and other little things like that?

  • @DesertBurst92
    @DesertBurst92 15 лет назад

    Depends on what kind of republican you are talking about. Sure, I think that Jello doesn't agree with the Christian-right republicans (Sarah Palin for example). But he does want as small of a government as possible, which is what most non-religious and religious republican want.

    • @damonjackson5857
      @damonjackson5857 Год назад

      You wanna reevaluate your statement 13 years later? Lol

  • @Force10FromMimico
    @Force10FromMimico 13 лет назад

    @straightedge442 A better term for that particular term that is so readily bandied about these day is Propertarianism. Libertarianism is the word the original European anarchists ascribed to themselves, now it has been corrupted and recouperarated by the hard right.

  • @llamaspit3838
    @llamaspit3838 15 лет назад

    what ever happened too all the teenage angst we had as teenagers todays punk bands ive you want too call it that suck. all sounds like whining

  • @H20654
    @H20654 15 лет назад

    WTF did the Army do to him why was he against the army??

  • @LOLAbortedFetus
    @LOLAbortedFetus 16 лет назад

    1984 is real.

  • @lucymolockian1849
    @lucymolockian1849 2 года назад

    blathering

  • @ubernerd35
    @ubernerd35 15 лет назад

    Depends on what your morality is.

  • @mikaelthegreat
    @mikaelthegreat 13 лет назад

    @SLACKINGJUGGALO punk should be, bad sadly isn't. Bands like DK don't exist any more.

  • @wgilroy
    @wgilroy 11 лет назад

    Reference 'Libertarian Socialism' esp. Mikhail Bakunin to Avram Noam Chomsky...

  • @folkandfaith
    @folkandfaith 14 лет назад

    @TheAnarcrusty so because he is black that makes him unable to be criticized for anything, including pushing the very same policies as Bush did? Wow...

  • @AlmosFamousAlliance
    @AlmosFamousAlliance 11 лет назад

    See that's the thing, we are not by nature gentle creatures. We are savage greedy and violent by nature, what we need to do is stand against the system that says we need to ignore the greedy corporates. Fuck that, I am through starving because our country doesn't give a fuck about us. It is time to take a stand and rise to the occasion, and fight for our rights. How do you think Rosa Parks got known? What about King? JFK? They stood up for them because they had nothing left to lose.

  • @Joeskateapool
    @Joeskateapool 14 лет назад +1

    If you listen to Dead Kennedys and punk rock I think your opinion on politics should be obvious.

  • @coldironhands1
    @coldironhands1 15 лет назад

    yeah he sounds like Dee Dee

  • @paulatreides123
    @paulatreides123 16 лет назад

    LOL im pretty sure Jello doesn't want to be president.

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 12 лет назад +1

    I've seen anarchy it sounds like you have too. DO YOU REALLY THINK HUMANS ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO MAKE THAT WORK?

    • @nustada
      @nustada 5 лет назад +1

      As opposed to putting the mechanism of economy and power into the hands of bureaucrats? Are they not human as well?

  • @ChristBurner
    @ChristBurner 16 лет назад

    spooky or typical for american history ha

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 13 лет назад

    we are pack animals we are inherently incapable of anarchism. The modern (mis)understanding of the term's anarchy or anarchism or what have you has effectively created a well needed mockery of "isms" which I view as insecure premeditated methods of babysitting ourselves. If you dare call yourself an anarchist why don't you just take one more step and just admit that like us all you have no idea who you are or what life is or how we should behave at all. we can get along without forcing oursel

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 12 лет назад

    I wasn't trying to win shit you just pissed me off, but thats "survival world" for ya my point (has nothing to do with being right just necesary) is that noone has to stay in it and most people can't handle it ("trash a bank if you got real balls"). I'm sorry about your dad I know what thats like.

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 12 лет назад

    ya still talkin

  • @Commiechu
    @Commiechu 14 лет назад

    @obnoxiousnickname Biafra is an Anarchist, Debs was a Marxist.

  • @apoxwrhthrio
    @apoxwrhthrio 15 лет назад

    they where a great band. but,as it shown, no anarchists at all. jello biafara went for the california elections ffs!!

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 12 лет назад

    friends for sure but if anyone in the world is just a dick it might be me. And its all good on the knocking of opinon thing.... its easy to misinterperet it for some kumbiah shit but I just gotta live simply or I go crazy and start attacking strangers again, and like most people I usually think everyone should agree with me lol..... I'm less of a hippy and more just struggling to stay off my meds and out of prison at the same time.... Just try to do the same homie its a interesting lifestyle

  • @444DeanMachine
    @444DeanMachine 15 лет назад

    not necessarily, I think you're thinking of "MTV anarchy" not conceptual anarchy. under an anarcho-capitalist society we would have private police hired by the people, we would have a localized court system that would only have jurisdiction to the town or city and would run under most of the basic constitutional laws that America should be running today but has forgotten.
    Peace

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 12 лет назад

    *kill or be killed

  • @CBiscuit25
    @CBiscuit25 12 лет назад +1

    Anarchism is naturally socialist anyways. Anarchism is just radical socialism. I'll try and make a venn diagram type thing for you all:
    ((Anarchism)Socialism)

  • @RunningP123456
    @RunningP123456 15 лет назад

    then eventually we end up right where we left off. Anarchy does not work, Libertarianism is far more realistic.

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 12 лет назад

    first of all you are the one getting quite a rise out of someones opinions contrary to your own, second of all 21 and 14 are pretty much the same thing. And third of all you werent merely opening up new levels of thought you were expressing your difference of opinion in an oppressive manner thus being totally hipocritical and THAT is why I called you a teenager. get into it or get over it. I've been on the street (not in a college town or some road kid hub)........

  • @cosmodyseeus
    @cosmodyseeus 12 лет назад

    exactly so why did you start it. your still stuck in this whole "god desn't exist" shit its true but get over it.... were all omnipitent in our choices and we actually can survive effortlessly. Just go have fun being a teenager you have plenty of time for surviving believe me.