STOP DOING THIS - LEARN THIS MECHANIC NOW - The First Descendant Ball Mechanics
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in this video I wanted to help teach from doing this ball mechanic wrong. This is how to destroy the balls in boss fights in the first descendant
this the first descendant guide will hopefully not allow you to make this mistake! the first descendant boss fights are fun but only when you know what you are doing :P
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ffs learn how to touch the balls in the right way
That sounds wrong 😂
Honestly you're a life saver! I had no idea this was a mechanic in the game! I owe you one and SUBSCRIBED, THX AGAIN
@@TH3xDEADSHOT np! It's only for when they spawn one at a time, the others have different but easier mechanics lol
I figured out an easy way to do this, prob won't work on hard mode but if you use bunny's aoe and just keep jumping you hit each ball in the right order as they spawn saving you having to remember and usually is so fast at taking them out the teammates can't mess it up on you lol
@easynow1337, don't you think that this mechanic must be explained in the game? So it is not players problem.
This is an absolute shit tier mechanic......
No your just a retard and shit at games if you didnt know this right away
This mechanic is dumb. Bro even shot them out of order a couple times making the video. Lol
Yeah its all over the shop, like this vid.
Imagine looking away for the brief moment they spawn and not knowing what type of ball mechanic you’re dealing with because the game doesn’t differentiate between them.
They need to remove those fuckin things period. Just give them more health, maybe kill adds or a commander that spawns each phase that you have to kill
Their are a few bosses that have that. I’d like those honestly
@@VenomKeenerYT Yeah, for sure. It would be miles better than the ball mechanic!
first descendant needs to take a trip straight to the vet. Gotta remove those balls
The ones that have an order to be completed are just stupid especially when they’re in matchmade missions
Exactly!
> looks identical to another mechanic
> Is different in a drastic, but subtle way
> Not noticing that difference makes it impossible to complete.
It's just bad, probably a bug tbh. And should be changed
Bug? Playing a game of Simon says?
Whoaaaaa....
@@MrTsukihami it could be a bug that's stopping some sort of audio/visual cue that this is actually a different mechanic.
Idk dude, that's not the point. Lol
@@ReaperCetthey spawn one by one and if u don’t do it in the right order it’s not a glitch and it’s pre-obvious if you pay attention
@@austinforgues1016 it's clearly not obvious if this video exists.
I haven't even made it to that boss yet, I just liked to be well informed.
Most people aren't gonna do that tho, so bad mechanics like this aren't gonna fly
The thing is that there is no mention whatsoever in the game about different ball mechanics. Of course most people wouldn't know about it, or even figure this out by themselves.
Stop acting like this was the other player's 'fault.' Be mad at the devs for bad/lazy game design, not him.
Bs shouldn't be in the game 🤷🏽♂️
You dropped this king 👑
It is pretty stupid and will have most people ditching the game because of how annoying it is,
I said the same thing, shit is stupid sometimes. But it promotes team gameplay it’s just sad that every single monster uses this exact same mechanic… like put a coat of paint on some of them or something
😂😂😂 facts q
Could make them color coded so it's not so annoying to keep track of
Did this mission as bunny and just used her AOE and ran in circles. Worked fine.
yess im too :D
That’s what I was thinking, I thought we have to destroy it all at the same time?
@@amurika6336 nah you're definitely *supposed* to break them in order like the video says. I think killing them all at the same time with bunnies AOE just breaks the mechanic lol.
Same
@@amurika6336 The advantage of bunnys aoe is, that you start damaging the first ball first and the new ones that spawn in will still need more damage to be dealt to than the earlier ones, so the order is still preserved, as long as it is not disturbed by other players (at which point bunnys aoe can become a burden, if some teammates don't aim properly^^)
4:14 Even in your clip in slomo I lost track of which ball was which.
Yep, they spawn about maybe once per second. You look away for whatever reason during the spawn sequence, you're screwed. At the very least, they could all be at different heights.
It's just bad game mechanics. Nothing explains it and nothing in past instances suggest it's any different to the other times you've just nuked all the balls anyway so they just gotta fix it and get rid of it give bosses more interesting mid fazes
This. There's no real indication it's a different mechanic. You can legitimately miss the first couple of spawns because you're involved in a chaotic fight, especially your first times. Now, you don't even realize they're spawning differently, and eventually you start getting frustrated. The balls all look the same once spawned in every single encounter. Heck, even the immune ones sometimes look like they're hittable (don't know if it's lighting, distance, or some type of lag). Even noticing they spawn regularly about once a second doesn't innately tell you to kill them in sequence. Once you know, it seems painfully obvious, but with literally zero other references, it may seem insignificant. The balls in general were a cool mechanic for one enemy type, but it's stupid lazy as the "phase" mechanic for every other boss.
Personally I think this mechanics is just a poor decision on the developer's part. It'd be one thing if there were in-game hints, maybe even a training simulation, that would teach you this. Also the in-game text chat so goddamn clunky to use it's not even worth it half the time
I'm on console and now way I'm I paying attention or trying to type in chat while on a mission. Maybe in Albion on rare occasions but that's it for me.
You talk like everyone should automatically know how to kill every boss.😂
Thats where the gamer mentality is in 2024. How dare you not know how to do and kill everything in let see...........a WEEK after the release! LOL Most of us have lives and can't play this game 15hrs a day. People need to calm down and have patience with each other. Not everyone can multitask and read chat while shooting hordes of enemies.
I feel like visually speaking the ordered ones should not be the same as the break them up in a certain amount of times. Its two sets of balls dont mix up your balls
It definitely needs to be made more obvious I suck at memory games in general now I’m supposed to do it while being swarmed by enemies. 😂
Nah bro I promise you we did that for this boss. We tried the order thing but it still wasn’t working. What worked for me was using bunny’s speed and electric ring ability and jumping into the air next to the balls and destroying them all at once.
There’s 3-5 mechanics. Waves, balls with no mods, balls that spawn in order, balls that you have to kill nearly at the same time so shoot the plates off then kill them all when they’re glowing.
Well, since they already copy Warframe mechanics, why not add pointer/location button like Warframe. That way you can tell your friend which one to shoot or just ask them to get to the damn location.
By that logic, warframe copied dark sector
Everyone copied dota's battle pass mechanic, every MOBA game was inspired from dota yet I don't hear people complaining that they copied dota
@Rim909 dark sector is made by DE...same devs not really a copy warframe is a successor.
@@lizalfos8627 ah I see my bad
If they are going to insist that the ball mechanics stay, they should at least give us a ping system or mechanic. That way a player who’s confident they know the order could at least ping/mark the right ones in the right order for his teammates.
The only way to learn this mechanic is to google it and learn from the blood, sweat, and tears of those who have gone before. Also, the whole ball thing is goddam sweaty with a controller. I can't hit any of them half the time.
Yep. Too squirrelly without auto aim, but auto aim jumps to targets you don't want. I think I turned the tracking down for most content. Tracking seems to like body shots, so turning that down still helped me initially grab the target but then I could put the aim where I wanted without fighting the tracking. Maybe the opposite would be better for ball bosses? Less initial "grab", but more staying with it once you're on. Assuming those functions work how I think they do.
Hello, does exist some weapon with enough AoD to destroy all at same time? This way would work?
Holy crap, I figured it was a bug in the game when they kept respawning. Thank you thank you
I’m genuinely impressed… “Shoot them in the order that they spawn”… you made a 5 minute video out of 1 sentence, I’m literally impressed
This video help me so much, in one mission we spent 15 min fighting with one boss like that and we thought it was a bug. Ty
I just got into a mini boss fight in the desert took me 2 runs to figure it out. Glad you made this video.
"Removed the sequential type Immunity Spheres from Named Monsters. They have been changed to either the default or extermination types." let's go!!!!!!!!!
It took me a view times befor i figured it out with the boss in the swamp. It hit me a bit by surprise as i wasn't expecting a mechanic like this at all. The information about the hight is awesome. I always tried to track them, or burst them down while they spawn.
We all know the best way to get rid of balls is a "Stone Cold Stunner."
Lol i beat this boss pretty easily but didnt know you need to kill in order. I just used bunny aoe and i guess it work out. Cuz the first ball took more dmg than the second, third, and so forth.
Nice video the only thing I would say is some players turn the chat mechanic off because of the random crap people talk about that most of the time isn’t related to the game
It is horrendous mechanic, but I found it's easiest just let one person kill the balls while the others control ads on this particular mechanic
after a couple of replays i did notice some pattern to it, but with everything else going on i never really noticed at first
Thx for the tip tho 👍
theres also a mechanic on a boss that the last orb will rapidly regenerate other orbs.. additionally using aoe abilities like on ajax you can destroy them all at once and that skips the need to do them in order.
I literally figured this out today in like three minutes during a campaign mission. First I was like wth, then I watched them respawn in a certain order.
Damn I never knew this and never ran into this issue miraculously 😂
The balls got to go! I usually provide crowd control and let my squad handle it!
"Shoot the balls in the order they spawn"
Copy that 👍
Oh damn I remember how long this took me, I was probably pissing my teammates off and didn’t realize 😭
Thank you for this video. I figured it out with no problems, but the trigger happy goons that I paired with took a two 2 min and turned it into a 10 min nightmare. Calm down knuckleheads and pay attention. Not every thing can be defeated with Hulk Smash mentality.
Also please just stand in the capture circle to make it complete faster!😭🙏
Do more people complete it faster? I never particularly noticed.
This tip about the mechanic comes in handy especially when you fight the last boss for Bunny's story quest.
@@Symolian88 I JUST did that boss, 15 mins ago. Either he doesn't have that mechanic or bunnies AOE breaks it. I just ran around him like I said in my other comment here and it worked fine.
@@habib6863 I think you got lucky, lol. I fought the boss earlier this morning and no matter what I did (Bunny's skills or just shooting the orbs) it would reset the mechanic. Only after shooting the orbs in order of spawn was when the boss no longer was immune.
@@Symolian88 I mean I wouldn't doubt it lol. That's insane luck though cause I didn't have to redo any of the phases haha. I also killed the balls almost instantly though because I have bunnies AOE juiced up so maybe that has something to do with it? Idk lol.
I actually watched this vid, went home on my lunch break and finished bunnies quest and was like "oh cool he must not have that mechanic" haha
Early in the game playing as viessa though me and some randoms got stuck because of this and we all thought it was a bug, so the mechanic definitely exists, maybe it's just inconsistent under certain conditions.
This helps, I fought one of these boses yesterday and was trying to figure this out
As a bunny player, V grapple hook spam around the boss
thanks for this, the sequence one is pretty annoying since most of us are just on shoot everything mode lol
Yep, it's so annoying lol
Did this mission earlier took half a hour because of same problem 😂😂😂
you don't need to shoot them in order lol I use my bunny and just hit ability 3 and jump up and down and they all blow up and don't spawn again so it skips the mech, same with if you use a fully juiced thunder cage
No need to learn, just jump as bunny 😂.
Didn’t know this. Someone in my lobby thought the game was glitched
Thanks for the tip
Or… use Kyle’s super and smash all at once. lol he is really just a titan from destiny.
I figured out this gimmick and had to sit there and watch the mission failure as 3 randoms just pulled up and kept breaking them without catching on
Wow I always thought this was a bug. Does tell you this anywhere in game at all? I never seen anything about it.
Thank you I’ve played like 3 days now don’t know much about the game.
1:44 does chat work during mission's with randoms? I've never seen anyone comment or react to my msg's.
Sorry mate, too busy shooting hordes of enemies in my face lol
I've only seen 1 boss with the order balls and that's the boss you fought in the background. The balls are a joke. Some of them don't respawn some respawn after a while after one is destroyed and one of them respawn immediately. The balls are a fucking joke
I got lucky then....when I beat that one. I had no ideal they needed to be in order. Maybe I was just shooting them as they spawned in I guess. I do remember that one being very hard and taking several times shooting the balls - so yea it was luck.
Thanks for the Tip, very much appreciated
Especially as Console Player, fuck this shit... give them some other and maybe unique mechanics...
Yeah I definitely appreciate this video. Nothing worse than fighting with people and the Boss 😂
There's always a ball mecanic in these game man
Thanks a lot ive been stuck on bio lab not knowing this
Gurnah (Sp? The last infiltration mission in Echo Swamp) had three balls and I struggled hard (luckily my friend remembered which ball to shoot after the first two because I was stumped. Going to be tough when there are more balls. For now stumped on the bride.
Really helpful video actually. Have some friends I need to show it to.
Health and defense, adequate resistance (chill for her, I believe). Make sure your gear is as high as you can get for that area, then just hope your teammates did the same--or get lucky with some higher levels doing some farming. Pretty sure that's how I got past Devourer (you'll have fun with him).
@@rickyjanzen6684 Thanks, I'll be trying that. Luckily my co-op partner is my flatmate and I can withhold food from him if he doesn't do the same ;)
Maybe we will try our luck with public eventually. For now we are grinding up kuiper to increase our chill resistance till we try again (SUB mod to increase capacity etc.).
Great info, maybe we did focus too much on damage and not survivability.
Thank you this will be handy
On that kill at 1:33, it looked like mid left died 3rd, then mid right, and top died last. So, it would appear there's some leeway if you can kill them together. Which brings in even more confusion to the fight. It worked out of ptoper sequence, so people won't realize what the sequence was. There definitely needs to be in-game reinforcement of some kind. Audio or color changes either when getting right or wrong (either way, not necessarily both) would greatly benefit a game that is predominantly random, non-communicative groups.
thanks bruv
They should just make 1 ball vulnerable and other invincible. Or make different mechanics easy to differentiate like make them pyramids if you need to shoot them in order and circle if no order, squares if all the same time. Or make a handful of boss mechanics 80% of them are shoot the balls
Its a failure of game design if your mechanic cannot be distinguished with a bug.
A simple scripted character callout could have been used to inform the player.
Under rated comment 💯 I like this solution as it keeps immersion and would actually be pretty easy to add to all characters so that no matter who you are using they have voice line that applies to the situation 👏👏👏 @nexon take notes
I think its bad design to have something so small that does not have aim assist as im forced to play with controller right now same thing with the shield that has the tiny rotating things on it that dont have aim assist either making it more difficult than it needs to be.
I just use my viessa ult and destroy all of the balls at the same time XD
Yeah i figured it out the hard way to 😂 and learned the pattern
1. Never cared to learn a pattern, no issues all but two times.
2. I hate when theres 1 ball left and still goes immune
Immunity balls are annoying af
Bunny works good for these, I put on her aoe and run in circles around the boss
I just use the mod that changes bunnys ult into a bomb jump up and kill all same time
The other day i bet we spent 45 min just on the boss .. NO ONE figured out what to do. 2 quit then we got it
I found out how to do these day one...gose to show people don't want to use their brain a little.
Lol I thought it was a bug. This is good information
thank you sir, i didnt know till now
It’s all fun and games until the boss replaces his balls with new balls as soon as you get rid of his old balls
that's some ballsy shit right there man :)
😂😅
Figured it out at 1st glance, but aiming suck. Plus the balls constantly moving is not good selling point
I’m a just keep it real once or twice messing up OK but once you realize you’re legit not progressing so pressing buttons wasn’t working so let’s stop assess the situation. I figured this out by myself. You learn this in the story.😂 game sense is failing because new Gen needs videos like this.
The Replay you show did not demonstrate your explanation. Near the end there were 3 balls remaining and you shot one, then the other two disappeared for no reason. Your expectation does not seem fully accurate??
they removed this mechanic.
Didnt even know you had to do that, I guess I got lucky during the mission. That or I destroyed them all that the same time hard to say. Dumb mechanic to suddenly throw in when it never mattered.
Cracked open a launcher with Enzo and took em all out
Make them color coded and make tutorial telling what order the colors should be shot
Use Lepic 4th ability problem solve lol
Had to wait for everyone to get knocked in one mission and do it before i picked them up
Even so this is a very badly created mechanic. Why not make them flash to a beat in order to reinforce this, especially when they are spinning around, you are spinning around, and hte battle gets chaotic, losing track of the boss shouldn't mean you can't tell the order. If it's the ones that die together why not make the balls flash pulse faster and faster to tell you how much time remains? If a specific mechanic relies on a guess then it should be fixed or changed. I"m not saying make it easier, just adjusted for accessibility.
That one is just awful. The all at once and shielded ones are bad enough. Ine the correct order would not be so bad if there was a better way to tell, but no they got to spin all over the place, look the same, and have more then one on equal levels. We need more different boss mechanics.
I really really hate these balls!!!!
the order and blueberries just shoot random....
Use a powerful Bunny, jump and you'll hit all the balls.
Thanks....hopefully they get rid that BS
I don't think this type necessarily needs to go but it would be nice if they would make the next one that needs to go be highlighted in green or whatever
No sir no one should learn how to do this because very soon they will realize that people are leaving the game because of it and remove it entirely only to be replaced more than likely with something very similar but less Bullshizz. If anything they can leave a single orb in have it gain a shield momentarily and then you just have to break the ball to continue on killing the monster that's if they don't want to get rid of the balls entirely but they really should Nerf the mechanic in its entirety as it is one of the worst mechanics in any game ever
This sound like it's the developers fault and not the players if it is not explained at least once for you can learn it to me that sounds like a bad development and on another note not everybody is observant as another person Or can remember stuff really quickly
i use bunny n she just 1 shots them all lol
Uhhhhh….. thanks for the info. 🤦♂️👍
Everyone is crying about the balls when this specific mechanic is tied to this specific boss lmao. Skill issue, tbh. I figured it out quite quickly, but apparently, y'all don't know how to pay attention to details 😂