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Reaction to incident after Uruguay vs. Colombia 👀 This is a CONMEBOL problem! - Gomez | ESPN FC
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Richard Mendez joins Kay Murray on ESPN FC from Charlotte to describe when Darwin Nunez and his Uruguayan teammates confronted fans in the stands following their loss to Colombia in the Copa America semifinals. Sebastian Salazar, Herculez Gomez and Ale Moreno then discuss what could’ve been done to prevent what happened and what it could mean for the World Cup in 2026.
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In south america police use riot gear during and around the games for a reason.
This is not South America but civilised society
@@MarcusChase-r8b Malice at the Palace. Worse than this.
@@MarcusChase-r8b A CIVILIZED SOCIETY THAT INVADED IRAQ BASED ON LIES, OR THAT STAGES COUPS FOR OIL
@@MarcusChase-r8b unfortunately too many uncivilized entered usa
@@MarcusChase-r8b jajaj si se nota que son civilizados, más cuando hay un tiroteo en alguna escuela.
Please don't call drunk idiots passionate. Don't think that will hold up has an excuse if charged.
Indeed, there is zero passionate about being a drunken idiot!
They got free hits on officers without any repercussions, they are probably already in the bus back to Miami and they’ll get through customs with flying colors at the airport headed back to Columbia. This is opposite world, run by drug addicts
TRUTH!
its always summer in colombia so they brain is fried from the heat. its not they fault this happen bc of global warming
USA should take a look how games in England are handled, the logistics with the stewards, and the crowd’s division are the keys.
Europeans are not South Americans, big difference. South America has a culture of violence even in football. Look at how the players are playing in Copa America vs The Euros, no class at all just being physical.
@@simba8665how much of a re***ard are you? Alabania and Serbians caused their bs in Euro Cup 2012 alongside a lot of problems in that Euro. Also this Euro 2024 semifinal the Dutch started attacking English fans before the game. Lmao yo Europeans are delusional. The reality is that football/soccer is an insanely toxic sport. Don't forget the 1980s UCL final disaster that caused world football to change and separate fans.
@@simba8665hahaha, like Europe didn't have a history of violence at all, are you 6 years old
@@simba8665Europeans are known for physical play they pretty much invented it,because they couldn’t stop the world class dribbling from South Americans. Just cause italy, Germany forgot their identity doesn’t mean European ball isn’t as physical or better than South America.
@@DonGivanithere is definitely violence in Europe and all over but definitely in South America. And as someone with dual nationality for both England and Colombia. England does have violence. But it's died down as hooliganism is illegal in England. It's strict especially for rivals where sometimes fans can't leave the stadium at the same time on top of already being split up in the stadiums with police and stewards in between the fans inside and outside stadiums. In 2 years time the states can't allow mixed crowds, just doesn't work. Especially when it will have both European and South American countries. It just doesn't work to have mixed crowds because Europe and south America are too passionate as football is part of their culture and it's like a "religion" for many and add alcohol into that, it's a bad mix. If you look at MLS they lack that level of passion so it may work for them. But world cup, it just won't work.
I went to the Brazil v Uruguay game in Las Vegas as a neutral. Fans of both teams were sitting side by side and even saw a lot of Colombian fans at the game. Even though everyone seems to be well behaved, I think they 100% need to section off the fans to each side for the world cup in 2026 and even for the Fifa club world cup next year for the matter.
Yup I never understood why they don’t provide sections between teams when buying tickets that lets you know what team section you’ll be at like in Europe
The World Cup will be run by FIFA and thats how they always run it. Sectioned off fans at opposite ends, with neutrals in the middle.
Common sense 😊
Not selling alcohol would also help
I also attended the game and most of the fans weren’t even from Brazil and Uruguay, as a Vegas Local the Brazilian and Uruguayan population are minimal. Most of the people that went to that game are football fans from Mexico and Central America they don’t really have an emotional connection to those teams so they didn’t care if they lost or won.
you are not supposed to sell alcohol in the stadiums , in southamerica there is no alcohol allowed in football games . Just for making money you not gonna put peoples lifes at risk
At least stop selling at half time.
This is America. They would never stop selling alcohol. They want to give away free guns with each beer!
@@bruford911 🍺+ 🔫= mo-money
🤣🤣🤣 it's all about the bottom line.
You sound like you’re from Saudi
That's why people drink before going to games. It's too expensive at those events
Well-done, Copa organizers. Genius crowd control.
From the organization, to the insane ticket prices, to safety, the pitches, how slow and ghetto the VAR is, the games being kick parties, the referring, yeah the Euros are miles clear logistically wise
Police and security weren’t prepared for this to happen. They’re not used to a very hostile crown in soccer
@@1224jm in sports. its america. most unpassionate fanbase in the world in terms of a country. the world cup is gonna be wild if they take it the same way as the copa.
Cops aren’t allowed to step in or they’ll be demonized by the left
@piojonumero10 sorry bro, I love passion as much anyone else in the world but this isn't it. The fight in match between uruguay and colombia was pure violence, nothing to do with passion.
We need Richard covering the Presidential debates. Dude was spitting nothing but facts at the end.
Anyone could cover this clowns debate. Old candidate froze convicted candidate lied
@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 old candidate froze and lied*
Spitting is right...lies however
@@JustSomeDamnCalifornian45 you jumped on the clowns wagon to defend the pathologically lying clown from the old frozen clown
@@JustSomeDamnCalifornian45 a frozen candidate can't speak nor lie. A con artist as candidate can
I agree with everything Alejandro Moreno said. I will also add that if CONMEBOL don't split up the Argentina and Colombia fans there's going to be way more fights in this final game.
In Miami Colombian fas are likely to be again 80%-90%. Usually they are not the ones who start the fights. You can see the only ones trying to stop the fights are in yellow.
@@didier_777 there’s a good amount of Argentinian Americans in Florida and I’m sure many will be traveling there. Plus Messi and Di Maria play for Inter Miami so there will probably be a lot of La Albiceleste supporters in that stadium.
There were some people in yellow trying to keep other people in yellow away from Uruguay’s family members. That doesn’t excuse all the harassment and abuse the family members were getting. I don’t think it they’d be dropping their children down onto the pitch to escape if it was all sunshine and rainbows.
The problem is Bank of America expected the fans to shake hands and be all friendly like some kinda NFL game, but they didn't expect full on war between two rival nations. This the problem USA just quite doesn't get it with the passion for futbol. They put security there to stop fans running into the pitch. Not to stop pro athletes from attacking fans or full on war erupting in the stands.
Charlotte...as my hometown and home to Charlotte FC and a growing Soccer City. Im am disappointed in you. No wonder you weren't selected to host a World Cup game in 2 years. I'll just drive the 4 hours to Atlanta now.
Well said
We're not fanatics even in sports we dominate like boxing and basketball and baseball ❤
Because famously there have never been fights and brawls between fans at NFL games. Right Cleveland Browns fans, Steelers, ravens, bills fans are all peaceful and would never do such things...
What did they smoke some fans fanatics some don’t view it just as football that’s y u got be prepared for anything 80 thousands peoples on one place with different emotions be always ready
@@jgp7414we aren’t talking about fights we are talking about life or death. In South America and certain parts of Europe rival fans will stab and beat each other to death. I went to two games this tournament and the way it’s organized is so stupid they didn’t even organize the seats to separate the nations you just buy the seats and hope you have your countrymen near you, on top of that the security is almost none. That’s a recipe for stuff like this to happen But from what I’ve seen the ones who started it were Uruguayan fans, the Colombians were trying to calm them down.
WOW THIS WAS SURELY UNEXPECTED.😂.
Ale seems not to be able to comprehend that this is a Conmebol tournament. Why was there a lack of security? Because Conmebol didn't want to spend the money. Why weren't the supporter separated? Because Conmebol didn't want to spend the money. Why weren't the players' families in suites? Because Conmebol didn't want to give those families the suites.
He literally mentioned that bro
That is not true though. Conmebol sold the organization to a US company. They're not the actual people in charge of the logistics.
You are so ignorant…Conmebol is not organising anything…
Stop acting like animals
Facts. Usa cheap...@LordSesshaku
Just because you’re passionate about soccer doesn’t mean that’s a pass to go violent
It's the alcohol
@@cristianperovich3119 They are not passionate, they were drunk.
This is the result of CONMEBOL not wanting to release large blocks of tickets to the different federations so their fans could sit together. They felt they could make more money with this free for all so this is what you get.
Thankfully in 2026 FIFA will be organizing the event and have a traditional formula that works.
There are 1.4 million people of Colombian ancestry in the US. Those mostly aren't traveling South Americans in the stands. They put this tournament in the US for the diaspora of Mexicans, Colombians, Brazilians, Venezuelans, Ecuadorians, and then also Messi fans. That is why the prices are so high, and the setup is the way it is. And good luck thinking FIFA running things in 2026 is going to change much. The secondary market is going to gobble up tickets regardless of where they were initially sold, and the result will be the same. In most cases, it will be fine. If not of the Uruguayan players joining in, this probably doesn't even get noticed.
@@benoitwaffle5439 i understand about the Diaspora communities in the US, they still could seperate the fans primarily in opposite ends and have some mixing in the middle. In the Euros, almost all the Turkish fans attending games were Turks living in Germany and they still were put in designated sections.
You are talking about a different level of fans. Most countries in central have 10 feet high cages. To keep fans safe.
I think it is less about the "level of fan" and more about the civility of the people. The US and Canada almost never have violence issues in sports like this because people generally understand that it is just entertainment at the end of the day. Furthermore, the US and Canada have absolutely zero tolerance for the type of offensive and instigative language that many South American fans use on the regular, which obviously plays a major role in the tension and violence between opposing fans. This idea that these other countries are just "too passionate" is stupid. Passion is a TERRIBLE excuse for violence, and I can think of many examples of where that is absolutely true.
I remember the stadium being 80% yellow shirts. Brave of Uruguay to pull that 😅
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo Yankee
I was there by myself. It was 90%
Ahh just a bunch of people fought and It was started by the Uruguayan cry babies
@@johhnnyescobar8207Luis Suarez started it on the field. It then spilled over to the fans
@@ponchis1966 yes, the players from Uruguay tried to fight the Colombian staff, and now they are the victims
The final will have two hostile fan bases so Miami police should be ready
The fights happen outside the stadiums in America. People have beennmurdered after NFL games. I'm surprised the security werent prepared to keep the peace inside.
Using the word “passionate” again to describe these idiots. There are millions of passionate fans around the world supporting teams that never resort to violence . This isn’t passion, it’s stupidity.
Also you don't sell alcohol
The money raised at these events is crazy, they want to save everything. but the United States should not hold events if all scenarios and resources for security are not used.
Ale has been saying that the Copa America should stay in South America and doesn't being in the United States and he is 1000% right .... the finals will be worse
This is not a surprise in South American Football
Must be new to sports
uuummm you have been in all south america stadiums at games???? what about british hoolpgans ?
Se han visto cosas peores menos mal fue solo puños
Shut up mate. Have you seen the Dutch and English in Dortmund??
and that's the ultimate shame & embarrassment when it happened on American soil 🇺🇸 too ... right on the 📺 worldwide for the world to verify those 'stereotypes'~
Alcohol should be prohibited in the stadium.
This was Qatar was successful
FIFA forces Brazil to sell alcohol because they need to keep the sponsors happy on that word cup , is simple to learn and fix that ain't happening like that again.
It's all about profit
They should find a way to limit alcohol purchases in the stadiums, doubt it though because it brings in a lot of money.
This is a problem caused by bad planning and organization
CONMEBOL can only do so much; this is primarily the issues of Charlotte-Mecklenburg police and BEST Crowd Management (the private event security company owned by Gardaworld). It's apparent that either CMPD or BEST did a poor job of re-deploying staff post-match.
I like how one sided this is...no mention of nunez throwing chair at Colombia fans...
Okay is he on drug for him to throw chair just because he lost the game against rondom pple?
Perhaps don’t attack their family members
The moronic Colombia fans fuc*ed around and found out. They reaped what they sowed. I understand Nunez’s retaliation.
@@ogog9554correct. I would react fiercely if someone endangers my famiky
@@ogog9554Watch the videos coming out. Youllnseee his family was safe behind him when he charged in. Clearly showed what his priority was and it wasn’t protecting his family
La solucion. A ese tipo de conducta , para personas problematica que agreda o antes de que empiese los torneo seria una ley la cual donde agredas , lastimes, se te den 2 años de carcel y si son mas los involucrados se te agregaran mas cargos.. aparte los que organizan estos eventos solo les importa los esponsors, dinero que colectan nada mas , se save que en los paises de South america la organisacion es diferente y la policia es mas presente la otra todos saven que somos diferentes culturas, diferentes valores sociales, mas Buenos que malos .
Se save nada es perfecto, pero lo que se vio en ese partido y por los comentarios , videos fue completamente inaseptable.... niños , bebe, se ve .tratando de sacarlos de entre ese conflicto.. la verdad penoso...
I went to the Brazil - Costa Rica game in Sofi, there was neither staff nor security in the stands, the security was on the gates outside and around the stairs leading to the stands. No fight happened during that game but the organization was bad
Same at MetLife for Argentina Canada a lot of fights and security did nothing until the police got involved
Is violence synonymous with "passion"? It's just a matter of basic decency and grace to not behave violent against rival fans. This is an embarrassment because this perpetuates unwelcome 'stereotypes' of a certain kind of people that partook in the violence here in America. The last thing you want to see foreigners being arrested in handcuffs shown on the local news to signal that this sport is "un-American" in behavior.
That's all good and fine but this isn't something that the organisers were clueless about. It is something that happens in football, and they should've taken all the security measures.
Not necessarily, but the us has 0 passion for any sport, the fans sit down while they watch the games lmao
@@JamesKoskey-98 passion = rioting? lol
@@JamesKoskey-98 Agreed. I remember when i was in the US back in 2001 i watched a rangers vs Islanders Game. I never - NEVER - saw a less paasionate crowd in Hockey. Everycone had a Jersey and a cap, a beer, or a coke, and they watched the game like they were home in front of their TV. Why then go to watch the game live? At the 2006 World Cup I was able to watch, among other things, the USA vs Czech Republic. The (mostly seated) US fans couldn't go beyond shouting "you-ess-ay". And they actually chanted the ever-popular “dee-fense.” At a football game - just ridiculous. Oh yes... In case anyone missed it: the Czechs won 3-0
In North America, you should be able to sit next to anyone at a sporting event, including supporters from the other team. This is normal in a civilized society. It's ridiculous that you need to be fenced off and separated in the stadium. This sounds more like a people problem to me.
That's why in NA there's zero passion. You guys just don't care about your team the same way
Said like a clueless American
@@JamesKoskey-98 Passion = being a neanderthal. right...
@@Blades2147 Neanderthals might've been more chill than us y'know
Why would you not wanna stand in sections ? I'd much rather be completely surrounded by fans of my team so we can sing and jump together than a scenario where everyone is mixed so neither side can really start a coherent chant or lock arms and sing/jump together, there's just 10 times more potential in terms of energy and atmosphere when fans stand in sections, much better experience imo.
There's also zero chance the Uruguayan players would've tried to pull that if the fans stood in sections.
Blaming everyone but the fans themselves. Ridiculous behavior, not “passionate.”
Protecting their families 🤣 please. Those Uruguay old heads were the first to throw punches. Plenty of footage. Players just trying to protect themselves now.
The problem was the brawl was in the same area as the families. I don't blame Nunez and the players but Uruguay fans and officials started this fight not the Colombians
@user-jn2In3cf5o I didn't see any wife's or young children in the area where the brawl was. Maybe at one point when the arguments were getting heated (maybe they moved away) but I saw Uruguay fans throwing punches and attacking in the early parts of the footage.
@hassongordon1249 I have to believe, like you said, at 1 point there was otherwise they are at fault just like the fans and those officials which I have yet to here anything public about
The families have to be in a private suite, simple as that.
lies. Darwin was trying to throw a chair into said crowd. If his family was there; why was he trying to throw a chair?
No te hagas el imbécil cocalombiano.
I am 64 yer old and my dream before I died was to govto a Copa America. I went to watch USA vs. Panama in Atlanata. I will not spend a another dollar on CONMBOL tournament ever!
It was a good game from a football point of view.
@@lucastotti7463no, it wasn't
Hopefully a lesson for the world cup in 2 years. Across the world football fans are much rougher.
Players are to blame. Kicking lumps out of each other then surrounding the ref when things go against them. No wonder the fans were revved up.
Great point
Uruguayan players in for a long and deserved ban
No ban if anything the Colombians are going to get banned 👌
@@ayrtonnunez4355 Banned for what? The videos show that a Uruguayan fan started punching first and the Uruguayan players families were already on the pitch away from the fighting when they decided to escalate it
@@SA-pj3fz yeah he definitely started it when he was on the pitch yeah sure not like it was happening be for, your the type to let your family get abused and harassed
Are you blind?
@@ta8779 no you are , so far nothing my friend go watch the one with the Coach talking
This happens all the time in South America. If they’re not fighting the fans they’ll fight the other teams. Things get hostile really quick on the road in South America.
This is just a taste of what happens in Miami when argentines and Colombians get to rumble.
Hooligans in football?? Who would have known that was a thing
Look at how good the qatar WC was without drunks
There are hooligans in euro too but they're dealt with much more efficiently. It's an organisational issue. There are barely any security during this.
The "passion" of a houston sports fan.
@@hdlam1 I don’t agree with the fighting at all.
This happened as a lack of knowledge from the hosting stadium and security staff.
Fights occur regularly at NFL, MLB and NHL games, but not to this scale. It’s usually a few drunk fans and they get removed.
This fight happened after the match. The security staff was focused on the exiting of fans rather than a possibility of a large fight in the stands.
This is not uncommon overseas, but it is here. Hooliganism is a well known aspect associated with football.
The documentary on Netflix “The Final- Attack on Wembley” proves it.
There was a lack of knowledge, but the CONMEBOL president, who was in a suite at the stadium, should have brought awareness to the potential issues.
Watch the “The Final- Attack on Wembley” if you don’t think this happens in all countries
US fans are soft. They think this should be a tea party but then complain about dives lol
@@harbingerofd00mticktock One has to do with showing integrity outside the game and the other has to do with showing integrity inside the game. in fact, both are the same and don't contradict one another. come back after you develop critical thinking skills.
True but it doesn't happen with great regularity between European National teams in stadiums. Crowd control is part of that
@@neilcoles1780 maybe not national teams, but it happens in even regular season matches abroad. Hooliganism has been around forever. It’s a widely known aspect of football fandom.
Don’t agree with it or support it, but it’s not unheard of.
Part of what was said in this video is true. It’s the lack of knowledge by US hosting stadiums and security that this IS NOT uncommon.
Fights occur at NFL, MLB, and NHL games with regularity, but not to this scale. It’s usually a few drunk fans and security ejects the fans.
This occurred after the match, as security was focusing on the exiting of fans, rather than the possibility of a large scale fight in the stands.
@@harbingerofd00mticktock you know “US fans” fight too right? Lol.
The dives are indeed ridiculous.
Thanks for this report.
I watched the long form, un-cut video of the incident, and it was clear that the brawl was started by Uruguayan fans, and then as everything seemed to cool down, the hot headed players stormed the stands and ignited and even bigger brawl. They were not "defending their families" rather they put them in further danger.
Agree
Couldn't agree with you more. Uruguayans are such sore losers. No videos have surfaced of the players' families being harassed. Such lies.
If their families were really in danger why would they not be trying to get them out of there. Instead let’s fight and make things worse
How are you going to say it was clear? The second the final whistle blew the group of Uruguayan fans were pelted with water bottles. That’s what started it, and the only thing that started it. You can even see Colombian fans trying to protect Uruguayan children at 5:17 of this video.
Usually there isn't a completely innocent side and a completely "bad" side. The truth is Usually in the middle
I was in new york for cricket world cup last month and one guy have free palestine flag and I saw minimum 10 officers harrased him for half an hour in the stand where bunch of drunk people fighting in the stand they did not show up to stop this. How shameful
It’s what I was thinking; use the suites for family. With social media today everyone knows the players family members and the crazy ones will pick on them.
Posting this here again as a warning: The security situation and management of the games is awful; i attended the Argentina-Canada semi-final game with my family and it was incredibly poorly managed; they let out everyone at the same place and everyone was funneled through a horrible bottleneck, the tunnel that leads to the American Dream mall. there were very few stewards and security and the crowd had no idea what to do. if that was a game between two more equal fan bases in size or there was any animosity or even just a panic it could have been a disaster. Was very scary for anyone with small kids. This is not to mention lack of support for parking and exits. Very bad and even dangerous management. Shame on Conmebol
your comment sounds like the hillsborough disaster in waiting 😣
I went to Ecuador - Venezuela in Santa Clara, and it was poorly managed. Smaller crowd, one of the early games, so there wasn't really any fears, but it was just an amateur production.
Greedy South American organizations doing greedy South American things…at least you will no going forward. I could have attended Canada vs Peru and chose not to as there was no way to guarantee my safety as the entire stadium was for Peru. No thanks
It's disappointing to see how badly Copa has been handled here in the US. It is kind of weird that Conmebol chose to host Copa America in the US Don't get me wrong, I like that it is being hosted here, but we in the US are not a 'footballing nation' quite like countries in South America and Europe. USSF is a massive incompetent drag on the sport's growth in the country, wholly unprepared, thus should absolutely share the blame. Football pitch dimension standards are smaller & pitches are often poorly made (like using artificial turf) & poorly maintained. Stadiums are almost all dual use & are refitted to death constantly. There are just so many things that had to have been overlooked JUST so Copa América could be hosted here in the US... it's sad how poorly we have done as hosts for both player & fan experience.
Thanks for your comments people need to realize this is the cause of bad organizing. It's not just these fan groups, that are all missed behaving. All you need is one person and it starts off.
Don’t give me that. Organizers needed paid security at the stands
We had a security staffer at the front of every aisle leading to the field for all three matches at Houston. Unfortunately, some, but not all, of these issues are out of CONMEBOL's control. It's up to the local organizers and their respective law enforcement and private security/crowd management partners to execute the security plans.
After the first round of group-stage matches, we added extra field security at NRG Stadium ahead of the Argentina-Ecuador quarterfinal match, based on what was happening at other venues (Kansas City/Arrowhead, Glendale, Santa Clara all had added field security as the tournament progressed).
Why do they sell tickets so fans can sit together? It was many fights in the stadium between both fan bases. In Europe and South America, no way you can be sitting together.
I think because the US doesn’t know much of the culture and don’t provide it when buying the tickets or atleast let you know which section you should be seated at
@@1224jm "culture". No. This is hooliganism. Trying to frame it as "culture" is excusing criminal behavior.
@@Wasevhooliganism is a form of culture.
Can people just behave like adults? It's ridiculous to excuse insane behavior because of "passion" 😂 it's not normal to behave like a bunch of thugs because of a sport
Passion is putting your heart and soul for what you love no matter the costs
If that was the case the world would be a way better place but everyone knows the world isn’t cupcakes and roses
Europeans also behave in the same way in many cases, go look at the violence at the 2016 Euros, fans also broke, smashed destroyed businesses. They are also thugs
Clueless statemnt
It’s many that can’t control their liquor
No, this does happen in Copa America when hosted in South American countries. You have to separate opposing supporters in the stands. In Europe and South America the organizers know this, why was this not allowed in this tournament in the US? What’s going to happen in the final on Sunday in Miami? They need to segregate opposing supporters in the stands, Colombians on one side, Argentines on the other just like Copa Libertadores and European champions league finals. Do you think the Spaniards and the English will be sitting together on Sunday?!🤷🏽
How they do that for people who paid for individual tickets
why don't they start selling tickets based on the team you are supporting like they do everywhere else in world? That way the fans of either teams are not mixed. This is how it is done in South America and and Europe. I have been to games with other teams and had to leave because of the fans of the other team was very rowdy
This what sport is about, entertainment! More of this!
There is a video where family members of the Uruguay players started punching Colombian supporters and this scene is not the first time for Uruguay 2014 world cup, 2021 copa america and many other occasions Uruguay players dont know how to lose is a black eye for Uruguay futbol
Ok Colombiano 😂
sure there is, and as soon as you can download it from your imagination, we can all watch it with you, yeah?
It’s all over twitter….
@@thehellyousay you are a bunch of LIARS!!!! you are sore LOOSERS. On top of that you are such cowards that you involved your families in your lies in order to paly the victim. SUCH A COWARD THING TO DO!!!!
Can you provide a link?
Blame the organizers… the hosts… where was the crowd control
In MLS you have security separate visiting supporters from the general crowd so that crowd control happens here too
Seems like a one sided story. Pretty sure the families were sitting there being angels
Uruuayan fans attacked Colombian fans and then the players got involved, Colombians were defending from verbal and physical attack this journalist is laying
Well said!!
@@DiegoGomez-mw4fw sore winners. I saw bottles being thrown to the players that angered the fans. I don't blame anyone but the host of the event.
Uruguay are 15 time Copa America champions the family members don’t need to fight with Colombia they have no soccer history at all they I don’t think they have any international titles at all.. but when u poke the bull you get the horns
@@DiegoGomez-mw4fw I take it you're embarrassed by Colombia fans behaviour and that's why u feel the need to not accept the truth
You mistake "passion" for hooliganism. You don't see this sort of behavior in MLS games. Throwing beer and fighting among players and attendees is not passion. It's other conferences bringing their hooliganism to whats should be a family friendly event.
It's just bad planning they didn't even put fans into sections, could've easily been avoided. It's gonna be much worse in the final if they don't put the fans into sections, there's a reason why it's done in literally every other big tournament.
It’s horrible that it happened but it’s best so that US and Canada know how to deal with this issue… how is anybody surprised????
I was there at the game as one of the very few Uruguayan fans. Luckily I did not get the worse of it, but if you were wearing a Uruguay jersey you were at the very least getting beer thrown at you and getting yelled at by a good amount of drunk fans. ( NOT ALL COLOMBIAN FANS WERE INVOLVED )
People are blaming the host country for lack of security?? How about holding South American fans to a a standard of basic civilized behavior. I’m Latin American, and watching Latin American fans behave this way is embarrassing.
It's not just a South American problem it happens everywhere the difference is that some organizers know how to manage security. Unlike Conmebol.
@@Rayado_26 I've never seen an incident in Major League Soccer where stadium attendees and onfield players are exchanging fisticuffs with one another. Sorry, South America but this is not "passion". It's "hooliganism"!!!!
@@symontemplar1418 yeah but happens regularly in the NFL. Same country.
@@Rayado_26 No it doesn't, you idiot.
@@Rayado_26 en los estadios de sud américa se tira gas lacrimógeno y balas de goma
This reminds me of the Malice In The Palace.
Pistons-Pacers 2004 that never completed
Same thing i thought too
watched it live.. it was the greatest thing i saw in 2004. getting push by ben wallace.
@@ticowYou where there that's awesome
Qué gusto escucharlos en inglés, buen trabajo, Richard y Hércules.
Zero crowd control before, during and after the game. I was in the stadium. What can be done? Never again host a futbol copa in the US.
Nag us I gonna be on top of it , but if mf’s get beat don’t go back on this ,
Uruguayans fans and players started everything attacked colombian fans and players I have seen different videos where Nuñez threw chairs at the stands this journalist is a layer that was not true
No fue así cocalombiano, los hinchas uruguayos eran muy poquitos respecto a los colombianos, porque habrian de agredir primero a una banda de gente violenta, de un pais violento que solo sabe manejarse por la violencia???
I think this is simple. Comnebol needs to sanction Uruguay and suspend the players involved in the melee in addition to providing extra security for games...
To me, it didn't look like Nunez was protecting his family at all. Looked like he had other things on his mind.
Nice to See Richard Mendez!!!
Haven’t yet seen a video supporting Gimenez claim
Unprofessional behavior from the players looking for a reason to start a fist fight, Suarez was the first one attacking Borja in the field, now they’re playing the victim to avoid sanctions.
Because here isn’t one 😂
Exactly
Agreed
Suarez was suppose to bite...Bcoz he's always been a dog 😂😂😂 but
There’s video of Betancur throwing a glass bottle and hitting someone from his own coaching staff causing multiple cuts on his forehead. He needs to be suspended for a year at least.
Although Miami and New York will handle the game better. They are used to having international futbol matches!
Reports from games in NJ weren't any better.
I was at the game and the whole thing couldve been avoided with having the families in a suite. The whole problem stemmed from the Uruguayan familes being angry the colombian fans were celebrating by throwing the drinks in the air. It wasn't at them directly, but they took offense. Mixed in with the fact Uruguay had just lost, tensions were high. Some fans from both sides were trying to calm both sides. But all it takes is one swing to get both sides going.
Lots of passion at the last African Cup of Nations, but I didn't hear of any fan violence 👀
If the Ivory Coast had lost the final it would have been different.
@@andrekoerber7334 Based on what evidence?
Self defence, these occasions players arnt in the wrong Stadiums responsible for security, God forbid a kid breaks their arm from all that, few extra staff each row prevents this more of the time
Please post a link where there are children being defended. All I see are butthurt Uruguayans fighting drunk Colombians.
wasn't self defence at all. Upset they lost. new video shows and proves it was their family member insulting and attacking the Colombian fans first, there were no babies, adult males,..
@@KARASCOUSINBS cherry picked edited footage and testimonial from a Colombian futbol federation plant. Try harder to prove qué tu gente no son sinvergüenzas.
USA was not ready for a tournament like this. I'm worried about the world cup
Usa did World Cup in 1994. It went well.
This is COMBEBOL’s bankroll. Nothing to do with US football
@@pglanvilleCopa America Centenario was in the USA as well and it was fine the World Cup will be fine
@@lui07nolaConmebol is not organising anything. They sold the tournament to an American company which clearly do not have an idea what Copa America is…
World Cup 94 - most successful World Cup ever
Did this happen at the Copa America Centanario?
Agree with Ale so much. Conmebol does not want to spend the money. So disgraceful. Conmebol make so much money. It is all about Greed, Greed and Greed.
URUGUAY CRY BABIES 😂
WHERE IS THE SECURITY 😂
Agree I see 2 officers in that clip. How are they supposed to control this. It's like 20+ people to worry about
I went to both Argentina games at MetLife, as a Argentine I’ll tell you this much…the New Jersey state police did a amazing job, they had MetLife on lock nothing happened during the game las barras (the Argentine ultras) were there and the police calmly told them to go to their seats when the game started. No fights broke out we all jumped and sung our hearts out with out any issues. What Darwin said is spot on certain teams have certain type of fans that don’t know how to handle themselves
I saw Nunez throwing punches . Protecting no one . If the family was already on the pitch , why did he go into the stands . Nobody to protect .
Uruguay thought they were going to beat Argentina, but forgot they had to beat Colombia first. Uruguay have always been hotheaded and don’t know how to lose, nothing new. Futbol is a huge party full of passion for players and country , if you lose you cry, if you win you cry it’s beautiful. But when you turn to violence stay home nobody want you. Be good and enjoy everybody.
Wasn’t it a Colombian player that was killed because he kicked a ball into his own net? 🤔
Get off your high horse.
Uruguay have nasty fans, and players with big chompers. Weak.
Ignoring the facts makes you a moron. Women and children are off limits but you victim blaming makes you the weak coward
You’re a liar
close your dirty mouth.
You separate the fans into different sections in the stadium
You haven't seen anything yet wait until World Cup 2026 with 48 nation fans coming here.
Qatar banning alcohol at the stadiums now makes sense.
Beer has been banned in most countries in South America futbol and fights still happen
Qatar World Cup was the safest because the Qatari government made *absolutely clear* that fan misconduct would be absolutely crushed and the consequences would be dire. Actual law and order enforcement
Ummm how bout these rich soccer players pay for suites for their families.
Last time I was in a near riot was at Mexico friendly prior to the '94 WC. Nothin ghas changed over the years and I am not surprised. Almost went to one of the Inglewood games partially to see if chaos would erupt. Always wild.
Ale always say the way it is he really said it all
I didn't see any women or children when Nuñez was throwing punches.
Then look up more videos dude
It seems like he went in for revenge. His partner and child were on the pitch when he went into the stand.
@@hanumanguy Revenge is not self-defense. I think Nunez is going to take a more severe suspension than any of his teammates.
No one was hurting the players families. They were just sore losers and wanted to fight. They wanted also to fight with the Colombian team after the game that didn’t happen so they took it out on the fans.
I like how South Americans reporters complain about US security but are oblivious about the security concern that always happens in the South.
My respect for nunez rose after this and what a stupid system that they want to ban him they should ban those idiots who arranged the security
Darwin only has that dog in him off the pitch.
So they missed the video clip of Nunez trying to hurl a metal chair into the stands? Also it appears Nunez' partner and child were on the pitch when he went into the stand. I didn't see any players pulling family members out. Maybe that happened earlier but looks like Nunez and possible others went into exact revenge. Long ban coming for Nunez.
You were there?? what do you know about football?? so easy talk BS from your couch...
@@andresbaez5937 I’ve been to two World Cup finals , a European Cup final, Euro 2004, and FA Cup final, over two hundred top level games in England, including matches at all the major grounds like Anfield and Old Trafford, also watched a bit of football on TV over the years. Oh and I saw Ronaldo play for Portugal against Spain and btw saw Pele play for Santos in an exhibition match in England.
@@hanumanguy Nuñez was wrong, but he dont deserve a long ban. you are the typical english hypocrite who poses as a defender of political correctness but deep down he is a racist pirate. Bye.
Why should policeman be responsible when the fans are the ones instigating the fight?
They need to stop selling alcohol at half time also if you are intoxicated when entering the Stadium they need to deny you entrance..
Alcohol industry is a big sponsor...
If this had been Mexico fans, US fans would be calling them animals and disgraces and called for them to give up their hosting duties for the WC.
Ii is wholly innacurate. Videos were posted today where Uruguayan fans are seen brawling Colombians after the loss. In fact, the Colombians were reticent but did defensively slug back at some point. Not the 1st time this happens. Davis Cup In Montevideo where Colombia won 5-0... cans, bottles and insults were thrown by a select public at the Colombian team refuged behind the center net. Not new. Many of them aren't decent losers. And they usually argue in the aftermath to have descended from civilzation into the other's savagery. Ugggh!
y esos videos muestran toda la verdad? estas seguro que los problemas empezaron recien al final del partido?? vos estas haciendo cherry picks.
@@andresbaez5937 En fin. Lamentable que haya ocurrido todo eso.
Don’t mix up stupidity with passion… and yes fan in this country act different than in South America, it’s called being civilized..
I love how these pundits are all of a sudden security experts.
Typical South American football game, after match fun and games by players and fan's, but on American soil. Too much passion 😅
Not passion, retardation
Ridiculous excuse, fans in Philadelphia of hockey and basketball tore the city up. The malace in the palace...etc. don't give me that excuse. They need to improve security and provide safe places for the players' families to watch the game. Families of the players are always targets
South America??? Look the videos of Netherlands fans
Not passion, retardation
Europe, UK and South America. Idk about Africa tbh.