Why are Apple’s chips faster than Qualcomm’s? - Gary explains
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Can you make a video about the Kirin 970 ? And their AI system
Gary Sims does this apply to exynos or kirin?
I am sure I will be covering the Kirin 970 at some point, but let's wait for an actual phone to get released that uses it first!
منور حمبي
saish vengurlekar basically, yes.
Wow! an honest video covering the facts, no fanboyism one way or the other, just talking tech. Love this!
It's also talking engineering.
Yeah, he's unbiased unlike some iFags in the comment section who still talking about bad impressions with 2010 Android phones. Lol.
That's like spreading a lie that iPhones can't shoot videos because the first 2 or 3 iPhone wasn't able to record video unless you jailbroke them. Which is obviously not true with nowadays iPhones. Just like as the lagging in Android phones. They don't lag more than iPhones. In fact, they sometimes lag less. Yes, 7 or even 4-5 years ago this argument was valid. But not anymore. Bunch of iDiots.
Dude, I love your content!
Agreed. Respect. And I don't even own an android device.
Android phones still lag, no Apple fanboy I have a Samsung S7
For a channel based on Android that was pretty unbiased, got a sub.
That's odd, I usually see Apple channels being biased
Adam Nelson No, that's just android fanboy's just hating to hear straight up facts about Apple and then rendering all of the good information about Apple "biased". I guess most of them can't stand to hear that Apple devices > Android devices
Boss Brandon tbh most of them are bias on both sides, as an android fan (not fanboy) I have no problem saying that Apple does certain things better than android because I want android to improve in that area.
I don't really care about bias but I hate that many people bias in a unreasonable way or just want to make fun of opposite fanboy.
Ya are you an android fanboy? How about looking at facts instead. benchmarks don't lie. Like all things there are trade offs. Examine it scientifically.
That moment when a smartphone has more cores than your pc
Lol CPU core on pc has more than smartphone has lol at least up to 8core today smartphone core processor has only get 8core maximum they is no more he can get with it.
AMD Ryzen: Hold my 12 cores and 24 threads..
@@musemooch yeah true, but to be fair if you were in their position you would do the same.
@@wanmaziah9835 Mediatek has been releasing 10 cores SoCs and currently working on 15 to 16 cores...
But when compared to PC chipsets they aren't that powerful and tbh they aren't comparable as they perform there functions based on purely different environments..
@@santriptaswain6578 even when compare to Snapdragon is not even closer why you compare to pc processor ? Lol more core it doesn't you get better performance learn from apple chip dude imao
Two years and you were right on the mark with your projections. Today, Apple is moving away from Intel CPUs as well.
Another quality video from Gary , thanks for the solid content
Glad you liked it! :-)
Smug Chad Ur welcum
I think that in a near future we might see MacBooks using Apple's CPUs.
A11 Bionic already beats some of the Intel's chips that are in current gen MacBooks.
A12X beats Xbox One S a year later.
Apple Exposed The A11 (and maybe A10) were more powerful than the Xbox One CPU as well. The A12X was impressive because it had faster GPU performance than an Xbox One. So that pretty much also means the iPad has greater graphics performance than a 13in macbook pro. It’s pretty wild.
@@Sandia49 The CPU in a console isn't actually supposed to be powerful y'know? The Xbox absolutely positively smashes apple in the graphical department because it has a gigantic integrated GPU. Apple might have a powerful CPU side but no phone can actually beat the consoles in graphics.
No LateGame Well no phone can beat the xbox, but the A12X in the iPad pro matches the floating point performance of an xbox. Of course there’s other factors that effect it, but it’s really cool to see. Also, I’d disagree about the console CPUs because there’s actually plenty of games on the market right now that get bottlenecked by the weak CPU. It makes it hard to run AI and Physics effectively without the extra CPU power
The Apple ecosytem would be more immersive if those things happened
When i said my Iphone 5s slowed down with time passing, i was crazy.
When i said my Ipad mini 2 slowed down after a while , i was crazy.
When Apple said they lowered their clockspeeds to maintain batterylife , they were praised.
And i'm still crazy.
GamingFreak076 never saw any praise for lowering the clocks speed.
They lowered it to keep batteries alive but also tweaked things in ios to keep the phone running strong.
But since iphone x they went all out with the power so when they do reduce the speed its not going to effect the speed as much.
@@busimo They didn't underclock the 5s though...
It would have gotten slower with updates
@@circuit10 apple should've given choice in this case
@@busimo ?
I like this guy. He's very level headed about android and ios in a world where android users and ios users are in constant war over nit picking and misconceptions.
I try my best.
Misconception? Well you nailed it..
Yeah I'm android and have an unjustified negative bias against iOS, this was a welcome slap in the face.
Apple VS. the knockoffs.
Izumi Koushiro yeah, especially when I even heard a android user tell me his s4 is better than my iPhone X
Excellent video explaining the concepts unlike everyone saying Apple chips are "optimized" Gary's videos are always worth it
well this 15 minute video can be summarized by one word; optimized..
Qualcomm has to worry about ALL the android phones that use their processor.. meanwhile, apple only has to worry about one phone... iPhone.
thats optimization.
Good cooperation between software and hardware department can make the OS run smoother and give for example a better battery life. But has zero impact on 3th party benchmarks. That's why this explanation of "optimization" falls apart. If a CPU performs good on a raw benchmark test then all credits goes to the SOC designers. So credit towards those guys. When the OS runs smoother (even on a slower cpu) then this is because of "optimization" between different departments. But you can' t know because there is only one OS running on Apple's soc's.
Mum Blic +1 Neither the chips nor the software alone is optimised, it's the coordination between both. The point I was trying to make was that everyone keeps saying that iOS is "optimised" to run on those Ax series chips which is not completely true. Gary has a video on that topic too.
This topic goes all the way back to the 1980s when the Mac was released on a Motorola 68000 CPU. The “OS and CPU are closely tied” vs the Microsoft approach of licensing the OS debate. Jobs famous quote is, “We make the whole widget.” Yeah, at that time Motorola was making the CPU. But, Apple had a big say in the 68000 series and later the PPC, which I was a part of. I worked in Motorola’s PPC Management and Planning division. I got to see 5 year plans and one of the fabs was in same building. It was an incredible experience although Motorola’s leadership was so fragmented that it begin their quick and disastrous downfall. That’s a different story for a different time.
And benchmarks are equivalent to real time use how? They aren't...
I really like his presentation
Kinda late to this but i just wanted to say how refreshing it is to listen to you, Gary. One of the most technical, most comprehensive hosts on youtube.
Everyone else puts their money into intro music, graphics and fancy studios and have a sliver of a fraction of the content you have.
Thank you for staying technical. I always learn things watching your videos.
You explain things very well. I have no idea about chips and things but I actually fully understand everything what you said! Keep up the good work!
Not a big fan of apple for various reasons but that a11 chip certainly is a beast.
potato, not its not, you are stupid
potato potato potato potato potato potato potato its not lol,
potato potato potato potato potato potato potato it is , but it's also saying that's there's too many issues to make their great stuff worth it.
Sam
Not really. CPU clock speed amd core count don't really mean anything.
Arvark : a11 isn't fast because of clock speed, it's fast because it's fast.
Finally someone who explains something with knowledge instead of rabble babble lies cause they hate apple !
Oh dear, a butt hurt Apple fan.
Khalil Razak Why you call him like that ?
Whats wrong ?
You could save a lot of time answering with just one word:
Optimization.
@Chris C Exactly what Im telling everyone
But you still can't move apps where you want it to be xD
Gary have made a video explaining you that both are optimized so thats just a bullshit myth.. And in real life use I always find that the Apple chip is not any faster than the competition. That makes me doubt benchmarks even more than before.
Apple chips are faster because of their “race to sleep” priority. They use larger single cores to open and close apps and put them to sleep as fast as possible. Snapdragons use more smaller cores to handle android’s background multitasking.
@Uchiha Madara yeah, the soc is designed to literally get the task done as fast as possible so it can go into a sleep state for idle power efficiency. That's why Apple focuses on single core over multi. It's not meant to run many tasks at once.
Gary is probably the smartest Android person I know. I bet AA is glad to have him. Keep up the work my friend!
You forgot to mention another important fact: Qualcom's patents are stipling competition in the U.S. That's why Google for example cannot hire a processer team to make their own processors and why Samsung's Exynos is not allowed in the U.S.
mpserrano1 they probably paid the Qualcomm patent tax like Apple does.
You know, i was just thinking that why google didn't design a custom SOC for their products
Hence why Apple is in a legal battle with Qualcomm rights now
Ibliss and Samsung is not allowed to sell their processor to other companies,why is that
Exynos is sold in the usa.
Samsung just keep it mainly for the south korean and Japan markets.
Qualcomm can also make more chips and do it faster than samsung
My God .. I learned sooo much today... thanks for this entertainingly informative video!👍
Good to hear that you liked it! :-)
Same man, but Gary Sims forgot to mention one things about apple able to make their cpu have wider pipeline & run at lower clock speed like in android authority article.
Gary already said that, on one of his earlier videos.
Infinite Buffer can you give me the link to that videos
Here you are:
ruclips.net/video/gLsdS0zQ82c/видео.html
And I think he mentioned something in this video too but mainly the top one:
ruclips.net/video/D9prht-PcWY/видео.html
Just WOW no bias. Love this guy!
Plus i have that A11 bionic processor on my iphone x.. playin PUBGM smoothly with HDR is just amazing
Not real HDR my guy, the only real display panels that can take true advantage of HDR are TV sized
iPhones are actually best for gaming. If you want the best PUBGM experience get an iPad
Plz donate your iphone to me..you buy new phone . 😭😭😭
And you can also play that in poco f1 which is 4 times cheaper or any android with snapdragon 845.
Kazi Ovi poco f1 are a midrange phone with flagship Soc
This man takes the word "authority" literally
Thank you sir.. Finally got ans to my question.. Superb Video 👌👌
ŠKODA Superb?
I need a comparison with the Kirin 970
Well that is a little hard since there aren't any devices out yet with the Kirin 970!
Yes I know
I hope you do it after you use the mate 10 from Huawei
With Snapdragon 835 and A11
Mohamed Basha surprisingly the Kirins are a okay. My P9 never stutters and has strong battery life
Yes that's right so I brefere Huawei device specifically the p series in the android os @jay G
Actually the Kirin 960 is more powerful than Snapdragon 821 and it competing Snapdragon 835 so if U use for example Huawei p10 and s8 U will find that the p10 more faster the only thing that the Snapdragon 835 beats Kirin 960 the GPU and not that the big difference
One good factor that I also want to add in this is that, Apple iPhone is a closed platform device. Meaning that all the apps are very optimized for it, especially they have proprietary software or tools for the devs to create like the Metal API. Being a closed platform has many advantages, and right now Apple has already developed their own in-house GPU, I expect that the coming years for Smartphone competition will get more exciting.
Pretty cool! Learnt a heck of a lot right there...
WOWWWWWW.... Such a Great Explanation ....... just sweeeeet man ... Love You Video
The explanation was super-vague and not even remotely true on the why ANDROID is behind part.
Agreed...since the market share owned by Android phone makers is bigger than Apple's.
oh yeah! compared to tons of You tube videos made by Techies (called only by themselves) in India. You know some guys talks like parrots & hard to even catch up their English... LOL!
YASH RAJ SHARMA अपने भाई लोग उनके चैनल पर कॉपी कर रहे हैं इस वीडियो को।😂😂😂😂😂 how shit is this thing...
Hey Smartphone Wars....However you fail to produce any thing based on "actual" fact to back up what you say, unlike the engineer in the video who actually knows what he's talking about...so your argument (if that's what you want to call it) means NOTHING!!!
I wonder if Samsung will eventually adopt Apple's strategy and go all in on it's chip design rather than keeping up with Qualcomm (Huawei seems to be doing so)
Too bad they can't sell in the us (exynox) cause of the different modems used in the us
Nicoxis...Samsung originally did the same as Apple, before the Apple even did it. Samsung used to use their own designed and manufactured processors for their devices back then. The first Galaxy phones used a Samsung made CPU.
Can't samsung has deal with Snapdragon.
nicoxis Actually they were the first manufacture of chips for the iPhone , from the iPhone 2G to the 3GS , hahaha
nicoxis They’d have to have a semi-custom version of Android. I doubt Google would give them a free edge to competition.
Apple = bottom up optimization. Everyone else is working with off the shelf stuff.
@
Android devices are overpriced considering Apple pays for everything they invent.
@@appleexposed4404 um...you think Androids are overpriced because of a few things?
@@ItsDevv
No they're super overpriced. None should be over 200 bucks.
@@muhdaimanharith
WRONG.
There's nothing innovative about a giant iPhone. Remember when Apple haters claimed iPad would fail because it was just a giant iPhone? Then all androids copied as usual.
Apple collaborated with Google to create Google Apps. It's not like they were invented by "android" lol.
"owh, how many apple user that use at least 90% of the soc power?.. none "
Everyone because it's always in use from FaceID, Apps, Speed to AR.
" Because apple limits it to save the battery from dying.. that's why android battery can last longer because while ios give full speed.. none of them realize that our battery aren't powerful enough... "
Ridiculous. Shows you don't understand technology.
"while arm making sure that their chip doesn't degrade the battery faster than their old chip.."
More uninformed chatter.
If it wasn't for Apple you wouldn't have android, apps, visual voicemail, multi-touch, touch gestures stolen from Apple, tablets, digital stores, streaming, icon based software, fonts, mobile internet, wifi, USB, etc. etc.
@@muhdaimanharith preach
Machine complexity goes up exponentially with width, which is why both Intel and Apple stopped at about a 6-wide machine, while the rest of mobile fare is still 4-wide. To get the extra steps would be a near doubling in core size for everyone else, and much more complicated and costly R&D. Could they do it, maybe, but as the video mentions Apple has the advantage of knowing each chip will be sold with a high margin phone wrapped around it, while Qualcomm is selling to a lot of phone makers that are on razor margins. Samsung had the best shot with their margins and Exynos but now that just seems about as good as Snapdragon despite an early lead.
Now i know. Very well explain sir.
Cris Dann M. A comment on what was said in the video. Thank you sir
Cris Dann M. They aren't this year
Nice explainations mate thanks
When Mr Gary sims explains you listen to it attentively
True!
I would rather to 'Johnny Sins'😃😃😍
Saran K R S Lmfao this mans
@@SaranKRS lel
I would stare at you attentively
I know you say Apple had a head start, but even in 2 years I feel like Qualcomm still won't match the single core performance of even the A10 from last year.
One of the few people in here actually basing your comment on actual facts, good job bro. Android phones can't harness that raw power they're pretty much ahead in every other aspect though. Android OS could use a few more generations of tweaks under the hood too.
LuneTech yup, that's as Gary say, because Qualcomm can't risk to develop a big size soc with L3 5mb+ cache and stuff, since they need to sell them to android phone maker and need profit, so the risk it won't sell is high (just remember the ultrasonic fp from qualcom and the new display technology from qualcom, it all been forgotten)
True ☹
Android is optimized to run lots of hardware so it can run well with even lower end chips. Android paired with a higher end chip runs even better. If Android was running on an A11 it would smash a iOS phone anyday.
AnimeBeefRandoms and sadly that's won't happen, i hope it can though, recently got to run android on a pc (entry spec i3) and the benchmarking is mindblown
Enjoyed the info in this video, very good.
I really appreciated how objective this video was. 👍
The best video i saw in the field of smartphone technology.
Thank you for explaining this Gary.
Timothy Baxter Ur welcome
Gary you should have your own channel... The most sensible & knowledgeable video I've seen in a while in this mobile space.
Great work!
Amazing explanation of distinguishing features between Apple A11 bionic and Snapdragon 835.. quite insightful and interesting... I love your videos.. keep making more of these.. Thanks
Nicely explained the major differences between Apple Processor vs Android Processor architecture.
100% quality content
this is why I like this guy
Hi Gary, according to your explanation Samsung can do same with their exynos series but they are not doing it. Any specific reason apart from that they are behind in developing?
Samsung could do the same, Qualcomm could do the same, MediaTek could do the same. But there is a big gap between theory and practice.
I meant that Samsung also manufactures processor in-house so they can increase processor cost and cut down some other cost for better performance but I think they are far behind from apple in processor design right now. Thanks for your reply :)
Yes, Samsung could do that, but don't as most of its devices don't use Exynos processors.
I believe there are patents that prevent Samsung from selling Notes and Ss in the US.
Maybe it's about Money because Samsung is sill smaller than Apple!
Do you think they will put a 16 MB L2 Cache in the A13? ( they already did on the A12X btw )
One good factor that I also want to add in this is that, Apple iPhone is a closed platform device. Meaning that all the apps are very optimized for it, especially they have proprietary software or tools for the devs like the Metal API. Being a closed platform has many advantages, and right now Apple has already developed their own in-house GPU. Expect that in the coming years Smartphone competition will get more exciting.
I think you're pretty much putting the horse before the cart.
Sure Apple plays with caches, but Qualcomm and others are pretty much just using stock ARM cores and playing with core counts and caches, whereas Apple has rearchitected their processors to go wide, with out of order execution units and optimizations which (despite their power envelope) are challenging the speed of Intel's server CPUs.
To put it in biological terms, they're not just performing organ transplants; they're designing (within ARM instruction constraints) their own DNA.
And yes, Apple chip designers do have only one customer, but their customer is probably one of the largest consumer of silicon in the world, and their custom silicon is the biggest key to their performance edge - well, that and the fact that they have some of the best software engineers, and iPhone software runs down on the metal without the need to go through an interpreter or code transcoder.
(It's also why memory use is less; iPhone code is native ARM binaries, not Dalvik or Open Java tokens).
Well said my dude, but I'm still excited for the new Snapdragon 865. ;D
It's a very thorough explanation. Thank you.
i love how he had to add "no wars in the comments" xD
great explanation. but how about exynos?
Nice Video man!!
The problem is Qualcomm does not feel pressure from Apple because they have a monopoly at their buisness with Android :(
Yes android more cheap than Apple price thats fact in my region asia
jay kajaning - He didn't talk about the pricing? xD
Robin it's fact when price talk everybody knows Android more cheaper than apple product. Cause in my country price it's important
I think that too! Maybe if other companies, like Samsung, start manufacturing their own processors, Qualcomm will begin to work harder
Pedro Henrique Rodrigues you do realise samsung produces their own processors for the galaxy series right...? The s8/s8+ have variants using either the snapdragon 835 or exynos 8895 which is slightly faster but both are really close.
Very good resumé, even more fascinating would be follow the history of the relationship between ARM and Apple... Apple is one of the original investor of ARM and they were using ARM chips in the 90s in their Newton product and iPod later on.
Apple a évité la faillite en revendant toutes ses actions ARM ... Dommage pour eux vue la valeur payée par Softbank ...
on android channels talks about apple cool things
on apple channels mocking android
True
Gary, Great job on this one, truly! Thanks for such a candid and unbiased explaination, I really learned a lot about the design and development of these chips.
Well explained, Garry. Really good to learn new stuff!
Amazing explanation that is objective and straight to the point. This video is so good that it made me subscribe to Android Authority as a full-Apple user!
Hi Gary. Can you a comparison between HiSilicon Kirin chips by Huawei, Qualcomm and Apple.
You do a lot of hard work and a lot of information sharing..You deserve a like
Thanks.
Question: What aspect of the devices' performance benefits from a high multiscore?
Multitasking and multicore applications. Usually those are productivity apps. Games tend to only use 2 or 4 cores.
@@nolategame6367 Thanks,
Please forgive any ignorance shown but, isn't 2 or 4 cores "multicore"?
And, what then is an example of a single core application?
@@Avigazed well, sorry, usually applications needing more than 4 cores are called multicore for reasons. It's nothing to be ashamed about. And a singlecore application is an application that runs on a single thread, they're pretty rare, since everyone nowadays has at least 2 cores and software is developped to take advantage of those without overloading people's systems.(Also increases software complexity, but that's mostly unrelated)
Optimization is key 🔑.
What a awesome educational video! Thanks Gary!
i really like this video. in this world, where fans of one platform can be really mean to fans of the other platforms (both ways of course), seeing such an fair and acknowledging comment is a big plus... i'm on the Apple side, but still like many things what happen on the Android side.
My biggest issue with the way android handles their SOCs is that you can buy an older iPhone such as a 6s plus for sub $200 and get a great performing phone, but on the Android side you have to pay $500+ to find an SOC with similar performance. So in terms of future proofing Android phones cost way more than Apple.
"android phones cost *_way_* more than apple." *_cough cough_* $1000 monitor stand *_cough cough_*
majest!cloudz he said phone, a better example would be iphone X against s8 plus
@@maulanasatyaadigama3408 oh so you need more understanding? so you gotta know that apple's "cheap" iphone (talkin about xr) costs ~$720. but there is one phone that costs ±$350 and has 8gb ram, 128 gb rom, triple camera setup, snapdragon 855. sO doES anDROiD pHoneS cOst mORre thAn aPppplE?
@@maulanasatyaadigama3408 oh so you need more understanding? so you gotta know that apple's "cheap" iphone (talkin about xr) costs ~$720. but there is one phone that costs ±$350 and has 8gb ram, 128 gb rom, triple camera setup, snapdragon 855. sO doES anDROiD pHoneS cOst mORre thAn aPppplE?
majest!cloudz i just say that he was talking about phones, not overall product. But both is true, apple product is more expensive than android products, the $1000 apple pro stand is a product but not a phone. I remind that he was talking about phone, so if you want to do the cough cough then use a phone example like iphone X against s8 plus or iphone XS against samsung s9.
Wow you're amazing thank you
Great video. Apple's chips are way fast. Android phone companies competing neck to neck with iphones with those chips is really a remarkable achievement in their own.
I'm a Samsung user but will the Exynos ever catch up to Apple CPUs?
What? No Exynos has 10000 performance point
CaddyPro'59 they could easliy catch up but as he said with higher cost it takes to produce the cpus it would be very unlikely they would as Samsung spends their budget elsewhere, for example on the screen
CaddyPro'59 of course not nobody is paying a $1000 dollars for an android phone that why the S8 is on heavy discounts now.. if they were to follow apple their phones will be over a thousand dollars which is exactly like the iPhone 10 the thing is apple can charge that ludicrous price but Samsung can’t all the tech Samsung’s puts in its phones they couldn’t get away with having a processor as powerful
Samsung needs to work on its software performance more than it's hardware.
AnimeBeefRandoms n its already doin it
Check the speed tests
Good day. Please do a similar video about Hisilicon Kirin. Huawei does a similar in house process that Apple does with Kirin. The Kirin has a good bench mark score but the real world usage is way better then even I phones. Please help and explain everything to us in a video about Kirin and Hauwei... Thanks! P.S love your vids!
android users: "look at this RAM and all those high numbers Android phones have. Apple is so behind"
android users when iPhones have higher raw geek bench scores: "Numbers don't matter, because usEr eXPeriEnCe"
Alex Kim
Clock speed doesn't really mean anything.
Cool but compares right, A11 vs 845, A10 vs 835
.. :/ again those apple, android users comments insulting each other..
I will say only that Huawei is the first company with 7 nm chips hisilicon kirin 980 btw the smartphone with the highest benchmarks right now is the mate 20 that will be released in 2 months 🙃
Android pays my Bill's, I pad's keep my kids busy.
Gary that gesture you do at the beginning of a video before you start explaining is just pure gold!!! Keep up the great work!!!
Refreshing, unbiased and informative. This reminds more of my lessons in uni then the usual fanboys in RUclips. Subbed
ohhh yeaahh
i will hire this guy to work on my mobile phone repair shop
Nice vid, the story/facts seems very reminiscent of Intel vs AMD, at least up until Ryzen. Maybe Qualcomm will have their Ryzen moment in the future. Long story short, on-paper specs are only one element of performance.
Explained the whole stuff in the best possible way. Excellent video... I wish we had lecturers of this enthusiasm in college.
So why is Samsung Exynos chip now slower than Qualcomm. Mmmm
What if Apple was called banana!??....
Pumpkin 🎃
B11 Bionic... 🤔
It would say I have a banana 🍌 🤷♂️😱🤭🖕🖕🙊🙊
haha random = funny am I right
That would be bananas
All of this amounts to a hill of beans. As OnePlus already figured out you can close that gap or even exceed it by adding more RAM. Even without that the difference is hardly noticeable except on benchmarks which are becoming a thing of the past.
Making a processor, a phone, and an OS all in-house is a bigger advantage than people realize.
If you look at Formula 1, traditionally the teams that make their own chassis and also their own engine do better than teams that make a chassis and buy another team's engine, because making the chassis and the engine allows them to squeeze the engine into the tail of the car better, allowing them to plan aerodynamics of the car with more time and insight. Of course some engine customer teams do very well too, it's not a rule that's written in stone. But i suspect it's a similar situation here.
Love the breakdown that really taught me a lot without it being a headache LOL
thanks for the vid. refreshing to see a guy with an Android shirt on giving scientific report without bias. nice.
Excellent!
I am using iPad Pro 10.5 with a10x fusion chip which has 8mb L2 cache and no L3 cache ,is my processor is too Power full ??
So that's why Exynos CPUs are faster than the Snapdragon counterparts...
Dammit.
@FRODO SWAGGINS that depends, like the Exynos destroys the multi-tasking performance and app launch vs snapdragon with regards Galaxy S7. But snapdragon has abetter graphics chip.
@ಠ_ ಠ lol.... Pls compare to sd 855 that things will crush surely..... Exynos 9820 and better..... GPU part..... Exynos faster CPU because they are full modified their are CPU core lol like we get on exynos 9810..... Mongoose 3... And now mongoose 4 on 9820 but clock still 2.7Ghz.... than the SD 855 2.84Ghz kryo 485....
Snapdragon is still better pls learn more about soc....
Bad news the WiFi Alliance certification removed the chance for the S7 to get android pie. So therefore, Samsung just rejected the S7 support here onwards only security updates no software
@ಠ_ ಠ why would you compare the 9820 to a 845? The 855 exists and it's outperforms the exynos in every way. Score doesn't matter
apples is investing heavily in their own CPU and GPU design. I think it would be possible in the future for Apple to release a MacBook with their own ARM CPU. not the Macbook pro, I think these would still be using Intel CPUs for long time, just the Macbook. Modern CPUs are becoming very efficient in their emulation of other ISA
Also there was a video from computerphile channel were they had an arm GPU desginer taking about mobile SoC design, geberally speaking, in the high end market, silicon real-estate is not a deciding factor, power and enegy efficiency is. however in the midrange and lower end SoC for smartphones, area is the most important part.
Nizar El-Zarif Next MacBook Pros possibly have AMD APUs that are customized for Apple. Later they are switching to ARM chips with a completely new OS.
Charles Yeo If anyone can do it, it is Apple. They already made a switch from PowerPC to x86 Intel. And with the amount of performance they can get out of a passively cooled mobile processor, imagine what performance they can get out of a larger fan cooled chip.
Brandon Holm What do you mean? All macbooks thermal throttle, thus giving less power than a laptop with adequate cooling having the same CPU.
While I like the ARM architecture, it is only capable of 1 FPO per cycle and lacks compatibility with x86 software. Also, ARM cores use short RISC pipelines creating more operations to perform the same task as an x86 CPU. ARM cpu's may be more power efficient per cycle or operation but they are really terrible at running desktop software and very few desktop applications are written to run on them. Software written in high level languages such as java, .NET, pear, ruby, python, etc; are are even more problematic as they really on the sort of features that CPU architectures like x86, SPARC and Power offer to make execution more efficient.
An ARM based macbook will be just an Ipad with a keyboard.
Let us take a moment and appreciate what Apple is doing.
Mr Jayden while simultaneously selling an overpriced workstation, watches, phones and laptops for years. Their $700 option this year is the first time in years they’ve decided to come out with something without the Apple tax they scam people with.
Liam the 11 is fairly priced at $700, the mac pro is justifiable at higher configurations but not lower. their macbooks are hopefully getting better with the 16 inch leading it
Matthew O paying 700$ for an LCD screen isn’t worth it. I went for the 11 pro
Liam how are they overpriced?
jainish patel Such is the trust that people have in Apple. Apple is not forcing anyone to buy their products. Anyone can try selling stands for $ 999. Why don’t other brands try to sell? Reason is simple. People care a damn for shit brands. Shit brands can sell only at shit prices and not because they love their customers
IMPORTANT: 2:44 Why does wikipedia say that it uses LPDDR4X ram?
when Gary explains, the world listens
What everyone needs to remember though is that performance for smartphones only needs to be as good as the user needs it to be. One game, app, camera shot, etc., that opens two seconds faster, doesn't matter to most end users as long as the user experience is smooth. For many, many, many, people, flagship phones from two or three years ago are still plenty adequate. Something to think about in the Android vs. iPhone debate.
Smartest comment yet. Most people can't really tell the difference. Consumers are so gullible
+B J unless you're working with video processing and loading times.
and why would you use video processing for a smartphone? editing is very limited and due to the weak cpu and gpu rendering is going to take awhile. only practical sense would be if your on the go and just trying to upload said video is going to eat your data like its not even funny. loading times are actually faster on android phones if you look at the tests
Kyle Well maybe android can release something as good as iMovies for free. If video editing doesn’t matter to you then fine, but it does matter to at least some.
Sam Spade To be fair, the majority of users who purchase the top of the line smartphones for a company , they're most likely have atleast 10 or more apps. People who tend to use an app or two purchase a cheap phone like an iPhone 5 or Note 4 etc..
Hi Gary, fantastic video!
You and your great content are outstanding as a Lighthouse on this platform. A classy RUclips benchmark! 👍
Enjoyed the video. I appreciate the raw honesty which we all agree is lacking in most RUclips videos on the subject.
Your positivity is a breath of fresh air!💚
Why do people give a crap what phones people use? These rants are insane. Android is more open but the cost is poor security and forget getting decent updates on your OS. There are only 2 phones on the market that offer a clean OS .. iPhone and Google Nexus now Pixel.
Take the silly bias out and look deeply at the Pros & Cons of each platform.
Thank U. Long time fan, 1st time commentor. A stright forward explanation and not tooo techy. Kuddos sir
You should do an updated version of this. I was really surprised to see how much faster my 2020 iPhone 12 (A14) is Vs Google's G2 chip in the 2022 Pixel Pro. It's not 5 - 10% difference in general tasks, it's 30 - 35% faster
The G2 chip basically is the tweak Samsung chip.
ITS OVER 9000!!!!
Niels H what! 9000?!
Niels H aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
The benchmark score
no wayyyyyy..dragon ball!!!
Next time: Apple ~ 12000-15000, Qualcomm ~ 8000-10000.
Benchmark and real life usage are two different things. I see the Snapdragon 845 is doing well in real life tests but not as good as the apple chip in benchmarks.
If you buy a phone because of the chip then why bother. Its about hardware, software and which ecosystem you use.
I'm happy with my Pixel XL from two years ago.
I am really happy apple have faster chip because it drive competition like exynos and qualcomm to a degree that won't be seen if apple were slower. The performance jump from snapdragon 835 to 845 wasn't enough to catch up to the a11 but it's about a 35% improvement in one year. One aspect that I care about tho apple has yet to catch up and that is gpu
One of the reasons because the a11 makes an impresive score on benchmarks its because has 8MB of L2 cache, witch its masive for a SOC, that made run the instruccions more faster without go to find the data to the L3 cache or even in the ram
I'm about to make the jump from a Snapdragon 660 to 855. Life changing I expect 😁
Me from 450 to 845 lol
Me from snapdragon 808 to 425 :(
Tri N Oof
Shin z so iphone 7 to iphone X am I right? So how was the performance I can’t imagine there a huge gap because I have iphone 7 myself and it runs anything so smooth even heavy games at max graphics 60fps
I've got the 855 in my OnePlus 7pro and it's incredibly fast. This is the quickest phone I've ever used
Thanks for the Great video. Very imformative
This is what im trying to tell my android friends.
Apple have good team and they investing very quality products.
Remember guys
1GB RAM iPhone better than 2GB or 3GB Android because ofGOOD memory management and cache allocation.
congratulations , your parents must be proud . Also , that 1gb apple iphone would probably cost twice as much as a 4gb android.
AM3X thats because that older iPhones with less ram are still running the latest software and age way better than androids. Comparatively they are still a way better value even if they cost more initially.
How's a 1GB RAM equal to a 2GB RAM? Did you go to school?
Emmy Leke because the iPhone is roughly twice as good as most androids in ram efficiency
@@JohnDoe-dq7kn way better value? Dude....you could get two one plus 7's for the price of one iPhone so stfu
Huge cache and optimized architecture is the main reason. However the real question is how can they achieve double the performance with the same power consumption.
Yes..... 👍👍👍