This will be a great option for small amounts and sample pcs if you are in a hurry coupled with a food dehydrator. I bought a Frankford Arsenal large wet tumbler a year ago. It holds about 1000 .223 plus pins. If you do large quantities, it's worth it. Thanks for another option!
I use a thermos jug on my wife’s treadmill with Dawn dish soap and Lemi Shine for 30 minutes. Works great! I glued 4 small laths inside so the shells “tumble” as it turns.
How do you keep it from rolling off the treadmill? I've heard of peeps doing like pvc pipes in the back of the vehicle as they commute and it does the job
herrcobblermachen ,,,, I made a 1x4 box, put two roller wheels in back for thermos to roll against them mounted it to two 1x4’s the length of treadmill’s width, then Used two C clamps to hold it on.
Green video. I have the Lyman, and have never had the nut back off during operation. However it's nice that when you do back it off and let it run, the nut will back off on its own and land on top, when I'm a little lazy.
Mine must shake a little differently, as my Lyman tightens as it runs. I turn the power on, set the nut on , press down on the center of the lid, once the nut makes contact I let go. Its tight.
Nice!! I haven't used my tumbler like that in a very long time but I will give this a try. Looks like it might work great for small batches. Another great informative video my friend
@@elvisammo yeah I really like it. I bought the screens for mine. Makes it a ton easier to rinse without having a bucket. Also got their pin separator to.
If you remove the all-thread lid hold down from your FrankfordArsenal tumbler, you can set a three gallon water jug right in it. The jugs that go onto the water coolers. A towel between them helps control the vibratory action. Brass will vibrate around in a circle at the bottom of the jug. Use a large sieve to strain out brass when done. Cookie sheet works great for drying them with a hot plate and a small fan. Much bigger capacity then what you're doing there.Get both going at the same time even better.
I now use a rotary tumbler with stainless steel pins and casings come out perfect. I put my vibration tumbler in an auction. I use just a tiny squirt of laundry soap in it. My rotary tumbler has several speeds. So dump your vibrator tumbler and you’ll never go back!!!
I made a rotay wet tumbler with a windshield wiper motor and one of those thermos jugs. Works great. I will post a video sometime. I also use pins. I have some SS pins I bought...I also bought some SS wire and cliped it into pins...AND us took some zinc plated wire and clipped it into pins...then tumbled them in some diluted muriatic acid. That made a hard black zinc oxide coating on them that keeps them from rusting. I also took some regular bb gun bb's and ran them in the same muriatic acid ...they are too big to get the primer pockets but do a pretty good job of cleaning...Also if you use a little armorall wash n wax car wash in the water (with the lemishine) it keeps the brass from gettin oxidized over time. They stay shiny.
I dry tumbled with walnut with the small Harbor Freight vibratory tumbler. I have since purchased the larger HF as the hole in the lid wallowed out. I now use the little one as a wet tumbler with stainless pins first then drain them and put the brass into the larger tumbler with walnut which cleans some more and drys them.
@@elvisammo i wet tumble with the stainless pins a coup drops of detergent and a 9 mm case of lemishine and just enough water to almost cover the 150 rounds of 5.56 and 3 pounds of mixed pins and round balls. It only takes about 30 minutes. Then i dump into a stainless baking pan with my welding magnets underneath it to help hold down pin loss while rinsing. I also run the magnets through my walnut media in case i missed some.
Good one man, you're always coming up with new ways to use old stuff haha. I never did the dry vibratory tumbling of brass method after hearing about elevated lead levels from the primer dust from indoor gun ranges, I figured the dry tumbler would do the same.... so I dont have one lying around to put to use haha. I usually use a Lee decapping die and deprime everything. Then it all goes to the 2-drum Harbor Freight wet tumbler. Then each drum gets stainless steel pins, a 5cc or 7cc Lee scoop of Lemishine, a cap full of vinegar and fill a half inch within the water line with hot water. The rest to the line is dollar store dish soap. Yes its more than you use, but its the end results that count haha. If you use too much Lemishine, it turns the brass pink - which is actually leeching the zinc out of the brass, which I'd guess is weakening the brass to an extent.The brass comes out shiny new, but the point of that is it makes it alot easier policing semi auto brass. The shine makes it alot easier to find - especially if you shoot close to sundown which is my favorite time to shoot :)
Wet tumbling is definitely the way to go. No more dealing with dry media dust in the air, full of lead and powder residue. The brass looks like new. I sprang for the Frankford Arsenal rotary tumbler with stainless steel pins. It works great, but if you are ok with the primer pockets not getting super clean, there is nothing at all wrong with Elvis' method. I still use my vibratory tumbler regularly - but not for cleaning dirty brass. I use it to take case lube off of newly made 9mm ammo (yes, I know you don't need to lube cases when you have carbide dies; but it make re-sizing the brass SO much smoother that I do it anyway). I use (and re-use) corn cob media and tumble about 300 rounds at a time for about 5 or 10 minutes and it takes all of the lube off.
Have the same lyman tumbler so I gave it a try, it works. Less than an hour and I got clean pistol brass its basically an ultrasonic cleaner when used this way not a true ultrasonic but close enough. There is no need for the plastic bag the water just sits there and vibrates.
I use a HF tumbler with turtle 1- step zip wax and lemi shine. And the brass turns out great. If the brass is really bad I use SS pins. I will bite the bullet and get a Frankford when the HF dies. But I don't shoot like you all. And I've been using the HF ($40) for years! Thanks for the video.
I purchased a 5 lb bag of 100% pure citric acid on Amazon. Lemi-shine is only about 85%. All you need is enough to fill a .45 ACP case. You'll have enough citric acid powder to last a long time.
Good stuff Elvis, I have the same two tumblers, I like how much cleaner wet tumbling works, however my wet tumbler only hold so much brass. Doing it this way I can clean much more brass. Thanks
Dawn is the stuff!!!! I use it to wash everything I even take a bath it when I'm super nasty.🤣LMAO Awesome idea I have a RCBS vibratory Tumblr. I'm gonna try that out!!!!
The vibrating shaker noise when I close my eyes at night it comes back to haunt me. Silence no longer exists. I’ll stick with my Franklin wet tumbler it’s a bit quieter and the cases are way cleaner. In a pinch I would use my vibratory tumbler.
You're the reason my wife gets angry when I get close to the kitchen. 😂 Looks like a tablespoon of Dawn and a teaspoon of Lemi-Shine. I bet you can get a pack of faucet washers that will fit those rods for a couple bucks. Thanks for all you do amd share with us!
Tell the wife I’m sorry 😂😂 Harbor freight has oh ring kits and rubber washer kits that are very reasonably priced. I use them for all kinds of things. I fixed a master cylinder in a car the other day with an O ring that I already had. Didn’t even have to go to the store to get parts👍👍😁
Thankfully I still have my 16 year old HF rock tumbler (single drum) for small batches, and the Thumler's Tumbler 12# for large batches. My 20 year old F.A. vibratory tumbler is used for the dirtiest brass (usually range pick up), and after a session of vibratory tumbling, I wet tumble. Never thought about wet tumbling in the vibratory tumbler, though... 🤔
I've been using long grain rice for about hour and a half with 100rounds. It is good for about 5 batches. You do need air compressor to get rice out of flash holes
Coming from someone who has a lot of experience with tumbling parts. I always prefer a rotary rock type tumbler over vibratory tumblers. Just a personal preference. Use a small fine rock type media, always use water and always use a few drops of Dawn dish washing soap. Mainly because soap is a wetting agent. Just my opinion from years of experience. 😁☕️
i have done mine like this for yrs . looking back it's kinda funny the rotary tumblers come out in the 70's as i recall . and they where made for wet tumbling or for use with media . i don't use the pins myself , i use a sonic now and my old lyman vibrater from the 80's . clean enough to load and not scratch my dies . question asked all the time on wet tumbling by newbie ...' will the stainless pins ware out my case's faster ?' answer .. ' no the pins are a soft stainless steel .' lmao ! all stainless is way harder than brass ! how ever the case will be shot out from loading long before the pins will . yes i love shiny brass but you can get it to clean . just ask some of the progressing loading guys .
Here is what I do have a mixture of salt ,vinger ,lemmie shine and dawn that keep mixtued up in separate bottle and put the brass in another bottle and set a timer for 2 minutes and shake that bottle for the 2 minutes dont go longer than 2 minutes because it will turn the brass pink i then poor the solution back in the holding bottle and the flush the brass very well us a bath towel dry and throw in the vibrator for a hour or longer with walnut shell and your brass will come out shiny clean
I have a rotary tumbler and I use stainless steel pins. However after I blew up 2 Ar15s because of how bad it can wear on the brass and primer pocket, I will not be using the pins anymore. I had brass failure at the base of the cartridge .
I shake them in a towel, then lay them out with a fan, or you can put them in the sun, or you can put them in the oven at 200, with the door cracked to slightly. This will at the moisture out👍👍👍
First, I clean my range pickup brass in a ultrasonic cleaner with a PH level around 3. Not much below 3 as will start to dissolve the zinc and leave a pink, copper look to them. Might weaken the case, but not sure. Usually due to the variety of cases, I leave them in the ultrasonic cleaner for about 4 hours. My ultrasonic cleaner is polish small and not very powerful, so this works well. Upon air, or oven drying, then they go into a MJR rotary tumbler with Harbor Freight course walnut and NU-Finish car polish. NU-Finish car polish has no ammonia which can make brass brittle! Depends on the overall look of the cases out of the ultrasonic cleaner, I usually tumble for about 4 hours. I have a timer for all of my equipment so I turn it on and forget about it or go to bed and let it work away! My nickel cases, all times are cut by 75% to prevent losing the nickel coating. MJR Tumblers are industrial rock wet tumblers but also work excellently with dry media with the car wax added. Mine holds about 800 45 ACP cases at a time. When done, my cases look brighter and nicer than new!!! Flash holes are pretty clean and I get very little dirt when reloading as I do not pull primers before starting the process. When I do pull primers, the flash holes come very clean and look like the case never has been shot. The NU-Finish car polish gives them a nice wax coating that helps with carbide dies and go through easily even when full length sizing. Rifle and pistol cases come out clean and the wax finish helps prevent them from tarnishing quickly and look like newly manufactured brass a year later. Works well for me and everyone that sees my reloads ask where I bought the new cases. MSgt David R. Smyth, USAF, Ret.
I just use my ultrasonic jewelry cleaner and just do smaller batches...I paid $6 for it at the thrift store. Works just as good as those outrageously priced ones that ain't worth a fraction of what they are charging us!
You can either set it in the sun to let it dry it happens pretty fast. Or you can set it on a towel on the floor let it dry overnight that works great to use a little fan if you can.
my lyman magnum died after heavy (ab)use and was ready to switch to wet rotary tumbling with FA but lyman basically overnighted another one free. so prob another year before I switch.
Try Ice instead of hot water. Dawn really does not need hot water to work. The ice is just a little abrasive. In the summer the ice will melt faster than the winter... Make ice cream while you wait.
Your brass will turn brown to black depending on how much you use and how long it's in the solution. All acidic solutions remove a thin layer of the surface. Some take away more copper leaving the brown to black and some will remove more nickel leaving your brass a pretty rose color.
So you spend an hour and half vibratory tumbling only to spend another hour and half cleaning the primer pockets by hand? Seems to me a real actual wet tumbler with steel media for 2.5 to 3 hours would be more cost effective and the brass would come out looking brand new, inside and out. That brass doesn't look nearly as shiny as the way mine turns out. I use cold water a couple tablespoons of dawn and a splash of Lemi Shine.
Also wanted to let you know. I just took my FA tumbler apart. The bowl is actually sealed already. After they put the nut in the center they must heat seal it in place.
Thanks Elvis ... I've upvoted 100s of times but don't comment enough. Well done, God Bless you. Yeah, I do this too sometimes using the Lyman bucket/bowl. You need to break-away from Patreon ... they're communist.
Maybe you can send us a list of businesses that are not communist! We live in a sad world! We have been given a lot of great things just so that they can threaten to take them away from us if we don’t comply, how sad. I promise to use any money that I receive for things that they all hate!. I’m a little confused but I fight like the devil!!! I could write pages on the subject…. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The one thing I hate the most about cleaning brass is primer pockets. If it doesn't clean the primer pocket, it's not for me. Rotary tumblers with stainless steel pins do the trick. I run the cases in Dawn dishwashing soap and lemoshine for about an hour.
Just buy a Sonic cleaner. I've tried everything to see what cleans the best. Takes 15 mins and pockets are best u ever seen. I'm using the same cleaning supplies you're using. Shake them in a towel an let them dry little more an done.
I started reloading after watching your videos your the best. Keep it up sir thanks
Sorry for the trouble I caused! 😂🥴😁😁👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
This will be a great option for small amounts and sample pcs if you are in a hurry coupled with a food dehydrator. I bought a Frankford Arsenal large wet tumbler a year ago. It holds about 1000 .223 plus pins. If you do large quantities, it's worth it. Thanks for another option!
Well I’ve got two of them so there’s 1000👍👍😂😁😎
Great info Elvis! I don’t have a wet tumbler either, so this is a terrific idea!
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I use a thermos jug on my wife’s treadmill with Dawn dish soap and Lemi Shine for 30 minutes. Works great! I glued 4 small laths inside so the shells “tumble” as it turns.
A nice 30 minute workout is all it takes👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸😂😂😂😂😂😁
Genius idea
How do you keep it from rolling off the treadmill? I've heard of peeps doing like pvc pipes in the back of the vehicle as they commute and it does the job
herrcobblermachen ,,,, I made a 1x4 box, put two roller wheels in back for thermos to roll against them mounted it to two 1x4’s the length of treadmill’s width, then Used two C clamps to hold it on.
Primer pocket cleaner - RCBS flat top primer case cleaner is the bomb!!!! Super easy. Great ideas Elvis thank you!!!
Hey Elvis, always learn something new on your videos. Thanks for the new idea :-))
Hey Nick! 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Green video. I have the Lyman, and have never had the nut back off during operation. However it's nice that when you do back it off and let it run, the nut will back off on its own and land on top, when I'm a little lazy.
Mine must shake a little differently, as my Lyman tightens as it runs. I turn the power on, set the nut on , press down on the center of the lid, once the nut makes contact I let go. Its tight.
Nice!! I haven't used my tumbler like that in a very long time but I will give this a try. Looks like it might work great for small batches. Another great informative video my friend
Thankya my friend! 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I bought the Frankfort wet tumbler after watching FC45LC. I call it "Doing my man laundry"
They make some pretty nice stuff. Main laundry🥴😂😎
@@elvisammo yeah I really like it. I bought the screens for mine. Makes it a ton easier to rinse without having a bucket. Also got their pin separator to.
If you remove the all-thread lid hold down from your FrankfordArsenal tumbler, you can set a three gallon water jug right in it. The jugs that go onto the water coolers. A towel between them helps control the vibratory action. Brass will vibrate around in a circle at the bottom of the jug. Use a large sieve to strain out brass when done. Cookie sheet works great for drying them with a hot plate and a small fan. Much bigger capacity then what you're doing there.Get both going at the same time even better.
I now use a rotary tumbler with stainless steel pins and casings come out perfect. I put my vibration tumbler in an auction. I use just a tiny squirt of laundry soap in it. My rotary tumbler has several speeds. So dump your vibrator tumbler and you’ll never go back!!!
Good stuff as always. Thanks Elvis!
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I made a rotay wet tumbler with a windshield wiper motor and one of those thermos jugs. Works great. I will post a video sometime. I also use pins. I have some SS pins I bought...I also bought some SS wire and cliped it into pins...AND us took some zinc plated wire and clipped it into pins...then tumbled them in some diluted muriatic acid. That made a hard black zinc oxide coating on them that keeps them from rusting. I also took some regular bb gun bb's and ran them in the same muriatic acid ...they are too big to get the primer pockets but do a pretty good job of cleaning...Also if you use a little armorall wash n wax car wash in the water (with the lemishine) it keeps the brass from gettin oxidized over time. They stay shiny.
Nice… thanks for sharing! 👍👍👍🇺🇸😂
I dry tumbled with walnut with the small Harbor Freight vibratory tumbler. I have since purchased the larger HF as the hole in the lid wallowed out. I now use the little one as a wet tumbler with stainless pins first then drain them and put the brass into the larger tumbler with walnut which cleans some more and drys them.
Do you use the Dry Tumblr with pins? And does the pins work with the dry Tumblr?
@@elvisammo i wet tumble with the stainless pins a coup drops of detergent and a 9 mm case of lemishine and just enough water to almost cover the 150 rounds of 5.56 and 3 pounds of mixed pins and round balls. It only takes about 30 minutes. Then i dump into a stainless baking pan with my welding magnets underneath it to help hold down pin loss while rinsing. I also run the magnets through my walnut media in case i missed some.
Yes pins and liquid in the little harbor freight dry tumbler.
Thanks for passing this along
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Good one man, you're always coming up with new ways to use old stuff haha. I never did the dry vibratory tumbling of brass method after hearing about elevated lead levels from the primer dust from indoor gun ranges, I figured the dry tumbler would do the same.... so I dont have one lying around to put to use haha. I usually use a Lee decapping die and deprime everything. Then it all goes to the 2-drum Harbor Freight wet tumbler. Then each drum gets stainless steel pins, a 5cc or 7cc Lee scoop of Lemishine, a cap full of vinegar and fill a half inch within the water line with hot water. The rest to the line is dollar store dish soap. Yes its more than you use, but its the end results that count haha. If you use too much Lemishine, it turns the brass pink - which is actually leeching the zinc out of the brass, which I'd guess is weakening the brass to an extent.The brass comes out shiny new, but the point of that is it makes it alot easier policing semi auto brass. The shine makes it alot easier to find - especially if you shoot close to sundown which is my favorite time to shoot :)
Yeah the thing really works great.. I’ve been using it pretty regularly. I’m sold on wet tumbler! Thanks for stopping by! 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
I can just imagine what Lyman would say about using water in their tumbler.
Thanks for all the info. I would like to do my own reloading, but never done it and just trying to get info.didnt know about this stuff
Yet again,some more good stuff from Elvis ammo! Thanks, I've got the Frankfort arsenal tumbler and will try this out to see how it works. 👍👍👍👍😎😎😎
Leme know how it goes!👍👍👍
I want to switch to this someday. Good results in 1.5 hours! I hope somebody comments on the pins thing.
I’ll have to get some pins to try?
I have learned so much valuable info from your channel, thank you man👍🏼
👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸 sure do appreciate you watching!
me as well
Wet tumbling is definitely the way to go. No more dealing with dry media dust in the air, full of lead and powder residue. The brass looks like new. I sprang for the Frankford Arsenal rotary tumbler with stainless steel pins. It works great, but if you are ok with the primer pockets not getting super clean, there is nothing at all wrong with Elvis' method.
I still use my vibratory tumbler regularly - but not for cleaning dirty brass. I use it to take case lube off of newly made 9mm ammo (yes, I know you don't need to lube cases when you have carbide dies; but it make re-sizing the brass SO much smoother that I do it anyway). I use (and re-use) corn cob media and tumble about 300 rounds at a time for about 5 or 10 minutes and it takes all of the lube off.
Damn they look fabulous. 😎
Sure do bro! 😎
Looks good I'll give it a try thanks
Works great bro!
Have the same lyman tumbler so I gave it a try, it works. Less than an hour and I got clean pistol brass its basically an ultrasonic cleaner when used this way not a true ultrasonic but close enough. There is no need for the plastic bag the water just sits there and vibrates.
Yep… I was over the top a bit with the plastic!! 👍👍👍
I use a HF tumbler with turtle 1- step zip wax and lemi shine. And the brass turns out great. If the brass is really bad I use SS pins. I will bite the bullet and get a Frankford when the HF dies. But I don't shoot like you all. And I've been using the HF ($40) for years! Thanks for the video.
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Thanks for the tip Elvis!
Fantastic! I bought a rotary tumbler and set my vibratory tumbler aside. Now I can use both. Great idea!
Yes sir use it the same way let me know if you use pins and it works?
I purchased a 5 lb bag of 100% pure citric acid on Amazon. Lemi-shine is only about 85%. All you need is enough to fill a .45 ACP case. You'll have enough citric acid powder to last a long time.
I had one that was messed up and I tried this. I put a 5 gallon bucket on top of a old harbor freight tumbler. Work’s for me.
Good stuff Elvis, I have the same two tumblers, I like how much cleaner wet tumbling works, however my wet tumbler only hold so much brass. Doing it this way I can clean much more brass. Thanks
😎👍yes sir!
I've thought of trying this myself, but can't get over the fear of vibrating a gallon of water over an electric motor.
Close your eyes and pray 🙏. That’s the best way to overcome your fears! 😂😎👍
I'm prayin' Bro, I'm prayin!!
@@elvisammo NAHHH keep your eyes open and enjoy the very short fireworks show LOL.
@@looseballs1966watch the world burn. Also your house. 😂
Dawn is the stuff!!!! I use it to wash everything I even take a bath it when I'm super nasty.🤣LMAO Awesome idea I have a RCBS vibratory Tumblr. I'm gonna try that out!!!!
I use a lot less soap in my rotary tumbler maybe 10 drops and it removes case lube. I don’t need to heat the water or do anything else.
The vibrating shaker noise when I close my eyes at night it comes back to haunt me. Silence no longer exists. I’ll stick with my Franklin wet tumbler it’s a bit quieter and the cases are way cleaner. In a pinch I would use my vibratory tumbler.
😂😂😂 dude… you got other issues! The ice cream truck does that to me! 😳
Pins would be awesome for your next test!
Not sure if it’ll work or not but I definitely want to try it👍👍👍👍
@@elvisammo you'll have another video with another like from me! Keep up the good work.
You're the reason my wife gets angry when I get close to the kitchen. 😂 Looks like a tablespoon of Dawn and a teaspoon of Lemi-Shine. I bet you can get a pack of faucet washers that will fit those rods for a couple bucks. Thanks for all you do amd share with us!
Tell the wife I’m sorry 😂😂 Harbor freight has oh ring kits and rubber washer kits that are very reasonably priced. I use them for all kinds of things. I fixed a master cylinder in a car the other day with an O ring that I already had. Didn’t even have to go to the store to get parts👍👍😁
@@elvisammo I will pass it on to her......from afar. 😂 Nice that you didn't have to go get parts. HF for the win!
Thankfully I still have my 16 year old HF rock tumbler (single drum) for small batches, and the Thumler's Tumbler 12# for large batches.
My 20 year old F.A. vibratory tumbler is used for the dirtiest brass (usually range pick up), and after a session of vibratory tumbling, I wet tumble.
Never thought about wet tumbling in the vibratory tumbler, though... 🤔
Lookie there… 😉✌️ I got some wheels turning! 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎
I've been using long grain rice for about hour and a half with 100rounds. It is good for about 5 batches. You do need air compressor to get rice out of flash holes
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What does that do to the taste of the rice later in the shrimp gumbo?😉
Sand will work too in a pinch.
Coming from someone who has a lot of experience with tumbling parts. I always prefer a rotary rock type tumbler over vibratory tumblers. Just a personal preference. Use a small fine rock type media, always use water and always use a few drops of Dawn dish washing soap. Mainly because soap is a wetting agent. Just my opinion from years of experience. 😁☕️
i have done mine like this for yrs . looking back it's kinda funny the rotary tumblers come out in the 70's as i recall . and they where made for wet tumbling or for use with media . i don't use the pins myself , i use a sonic now and my old lyman vibrater from the 80's . clean enough to load and not scratch my dies . question asked all the time on wet tumbling by newbie ...' will the stainless pins ware out my case's faster ?' answer .. ' no the pins are a soft stainless steel .' lmao ! all stainless is way harder than brass ! how ever the case will be shot out from loading long before the pins will . yes i love shiny brass but you can get it to clean . just ask some of the progressing loading guys .
Here is what I do have a mixture of salt ,vinger ,lemmie shine and dawn that keep mixtued up in separate bottle and put the brass in another bottle and set a timer for 2 minutes and shake that bottle for the 2 minutes dont go longer than 2 minutes because it will turn the brass pink i then poor the solution back in the holding bottle and the flush the brass very well us a bath towel dry and throw in the vibrator for a hour or longer with walnut shell and your brass will come out shiny clean
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I have a rotary tumbler and I use stainless steel pins. However after I blew up 2 Ar15s because of how bad it can wear on the brass and primer pocket, I will not be using the pins anymore. I had brass failure at the base of the cartridge .
Sounds like you're loading the cartridges too hot unless you are leaving your tumbler on while you go on vacation 😂
One 9 mm shell casing full of lemi shine. Unless you want pink brass.
Yeah… that’s a great measuring device!!! I’ll start mentioning that! 👍👍👍
What happened to the clear plastic cover that goes over the slotted cover on the lyman; I would imagine it would work just as good as the garbage bag
😂 yep!
I'm still old school, ground walnut and polish
😂👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸walnut trees a blowen… hey bud!
Great video and great information
After wet tumble do you air dry or oven dry the brass?
I shake them in a towel, then lay them out with a fan, or you can put them in the sun, or you can put them in the oven at 200, with the door cracked to slightly. This will at the moisture out👍👍👍
First, I clean my range pickup brass in a ultrasonic cleaner with a PH level around 3. Not much below 3 as will start to dissolve the zinc and leave a pink, copper look to them. Might weaken the case, but not sure. Usually due to the variety of cases, I leave them in the ultrasonic cleaner for about 4 hours. My ultrasonic cleaner is polish small and not very powerful, so this works well.
Upon air, or oven drying, then they go into a MJR rotary tumbler with Harbor Freight course walnut and NU-Finish car polish. NU-Finish car polish has no ammonia which can make brass brittle! Depends on the overall look of the cases out of the ultrasonic cleaner, I usually tumble for about 4 hours. I have a timer for all of my equipment so I turn it on and forget about it or go to bed and let it work away! My nickel cases, all times are cut by 75% to prevent losing the nickel coating.
MJR Tumblers are industrial rock wet tumblers but also work excellently with dry media with the car wax added. Mine holds about 800 45 ACP cases at a time.
When done, my cases look brighter and nicer than new!!! Flash holes are pretty clean and I get very little dirt when reloading as I do not pull primers before starting the process. When I do pull primers, the flash holes come very clean and look like the case never has been shot. The NU-Finish car polish gives them a nice wax coating that helps with carbide dies and go through easily even when full length sizing. Rifle and pistol cases come out clean and the wax finish helps prevent them from tarnishing quickly and look like newly manufactured brass a year later.
Works well for me and everyone that sees my reloads ask where I bought the new cases. MSgt David R. Smyth, USAF, Ret.
👍👍sounds like it works for sure😎
Great video
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I just use my ultrasonic jewelry cleaner and just do smaller batches...I paid $6 for it at the thrift store. Works just as good as those outrageously priced ones that ain't worth a fraction of what they are charging us!
😎👍👍👍I like that
What do you use to dry the brass? I am researching on reloading. Thinking about getting into it.
You can either set it in the sun to let it dry it happens pretty fast. Or you can set it on a towel on the floor let it dry overnight that works great to use a little fan if you can.
my lyman magnum died after heavy (ab)use and was ready to switch to wet rotary tumbling with FA but lyman basically overnighted another one free. so prob another year before I switch.
You could put the soap in lemon shine in after you heat the water up and then you don’t need to stir it for a living
What about an ultrasonic machine??
Thanks, saves me $180 bucks from not buying the Harbor Freight one that does wet/dry.
Get a wet tumbler Elvis you'll love it
Don’t be trying to domesticate me! 🥴😁😂👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The Franklin tumbler has slow media circulation, I added a plastic funnel upside down over the center post which about doubled activity.
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Do you need to rinse after that solution? I’m guessing so but didn’t know if it was just a plain water rinse or something else. Thx
Try Ice instead of hot water.
Dawn really does not need hot water to work.
The ice is just a little abrasive.
In the summer the ice will melt faster than the winter...
Make ice cream while you wait.
Now that’s a great idea😂😂😂😉
How does it work on jockey shorts?
I just did a video on a homemade wet tumbler . I had around $50 in it .
I will check that out!!! 👍👍👍
Do you have a cost-effective way of annealing the case openings?
Found it. A drill motor extension, socket, and a blow torch.
Go to barber freight and buy there 2 drum rock polisher, cheap and works great , just have to buy some pins!
Out of curiosity, what happens if you use too much lemishine? You didn’t complete your thought and know I gotta know😄
Your brass will turn brown to black depending on how much you use and how long it's in the solution. All acidic solutions remove a thin layer of the surface. Some take away more copper leaving the brown to black and some will remove more nickel leaving your brass a pretty rose color.
All of your brass will turn pink😂😂really
@@elvisammo ugh, commie brass. No one wants that. 😂🤣😄
So you spend an hour and half vibratory tumbling only to spend another hour and half cleaning the primer pockets by hand? Seems to me a real actual wet tumbler with steel media for 2.5 to 3 hours would be more cost effective and the brass would come out looking brand new, inside and out. That brass doesn't look nearly as shiny as the way mine turns out. I use cold water a couple tablespoons of dawn and a splash of Lemi Shine.
I have found a shot of Fast Orange works better than LemiShine. And at least for me the Fast Orange was cheaper.
Also wanted to let you know. I just took my FA tumbler apart. The bowl is actually sealed already. After they put the nut in the center they must heat seal it in place.
I just use simple green.
A whisker you say? Like just pull one from my beard? 🤔🤷🏼♂️🤣😇
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Had bad results wet tumble in Franklin arsenal dry tumbler
Did everything go OK? Just not the results you expected?
Crushed glass
you need to try a Monster energy drink
Thanks Elvis ... I've upvoted 100s of times but don't comment enough. Well done, God Bless you. Yeah, I do this too sometimes using the Lyman bucket/bowl. You need to break-away from Patreon ... they're communist.
Maybe you can send us a list of businesses that are not communist! We live in a sad world! We have been given a lot of great things just so that they can threaten to take them away from us if we don’t comply, how sad. I promise to use any money that I receive for things that they all hate!. I’m a little confused but I fight like the devil!!! I could write pages on the subject…. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Did you see psycho clown using woo lite instead of dawn?
No… I’ll bet that will work though. I’ll check out our Psyko friend! 👍👍👍
Commercial 1 gal paint mixer machine..surplus
The one thing I hate the most about cleaning brass is primer pockets. If it doesn't clean the primer pocket, it's not for me. Rotary tumblers with stainless steel pins do the trick. I run the cases in Dawn dishwashing soap and lemoshine for about an hour.
Personally I would only consider perfect primer holes for precision ammo only, just to satisfy me.. 👍👍 but I know all about you brass snobs😂😎
Just buy a Sonic cleaner.
I've tried everything to see what cleans the best. Takes 15 mins and pockets are best u ever seen. I'm using the same cleaning supplies you're using.
Shake them in a towel an let them dry little more an done.
Yeah, that’s what I do shake them in a towel. Lay them out with a fan, set them in the sun, or just let them dry. I’ll have to look into that…👍👍👍👍
Zero point in doing this if it isn't getting the pockets clean.
Yep.. got some pocket snobs for sure. I’m still trying to find out if the pins will work in this situation.✌️
@@elvisammo pins won't work, as they will just sink to the bottom and stay there.
I toss in three pair of underwear with 200 pieces of 30-06 Lake City brass.
Warning ⚠️ that will make the brass crusty! 🥴
Doesn't do primer pockets. Ignored haha.
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Fast as lightning bro!!! 😎