I've seen every episode of TZ multiple times over. The Shelter was one that I always remembered because it was _so_ on point. It showed true human nature, as ugly as it can be. The quote from this episode is something I'll never forget. (after they had broke down the door of their neighbors shelter and said horrible things to eachother and found out it was a false alarm) Jerry Harlow: Hey that's a great idea, block party, anything to get back to normal, huh? Dr. Bill Stockton: Normal? I don't know. I don't know what normal is. I thought I did once. I don't anymore. Jerry Harlowe: I told you we'd pay for the damages, Bill. Dr. Bill Stockton: *Damages? I wonder. I wonder if anyone of us has any idea what those damages really are. Maybe one of them is finding out what we're really like when we're normal; the kind of people we are just underneath the skin. I mean all of us: a bunch of naked wild animals, who put such a price on staying alive that they'd claw their neighbors to death just for the privilege. We were spared a bomb tonight, but I wonder if we weren't destroyed even without it.* WOW. Mind Blowing.
They cut it out twice, on MeTV my favorite line in the "Shelter ", that one neighbor says to Marty," Nobody cares what you think, you or your kind!" And later he says he was off his rocker!
Serling had experiences like few other writers. As a 17 year old US Army Paratrooper he saw 1/2 his battalion slowly wiped out fighting the Japanese. He saw the best and worst of men.
I had the honor of being in the same school building as Mr. Serling at Ithaca College back in the "Seventies. He gave my graduation address and was terrific.
Saw this episode on Netflix last night... all I could think of was Joker's quote:"When the chips are down, these 'civilized' people... they'll eat each other."
Wow, what a great find! We get to hear an previously unheard (in modern times) interview with Serling about a Twilight Zone episode, and, we get to hear Bob Crane on his KNX radio show. I always heard he started in radio, but never actually heard tape.
It's crazy to realize that Bob Crane had a career prior to HOGAN'S HEROES! I've noticed lots of entertainers got their start working as DJs before getting in front of a camera. Bob Eubanks, Sly from Sly and The Family Stone, the rapper Ludacris, Mean Gene Okerland from WWE. Just something about being able to engage an audience with merely your voice. Orson Welles understood that better than anyone else with his WAR OF THE WORLDS radio broadcast! 😎🇵🇷🇺🇸🗽🦂
I was 8 yrs. Old when this episode aired, and I never forgot it. I was thrilled to see it again 60 years later and it was just as good as I remembered.
Ultimately ,preparedness is a responsibility on every individual. If you fail to provide safety and shelter for you and your loved ones you can't put the burden on someone else to keep you safe
The hindsight of History has shown us that Mr Serling wrote it exactly as it should have been written... and the ending comments a perfect epilogue to ponder for the ages... R.I.P.
Loved this intense TZ episode and always wondered what Serling's own views were about it. Although he said he had no clear answer, when Crane asked why he didn't build his own shelter, the answer was revealed. As a child I recall the scary thoughts of WWIII and also contemplated the aftermath of such a calamity, as did millions of others. Serling's ability to give intense, dramatic life to those fears was provocative in those days, and remain a profound philosophical statement of the human condition.
Being born in '70 and growing up during the 80's and the days leading up to the end of the Cold War, I also remember having those kinds of thoughts, especially living in Upstate NY. Many of my brothers and extended family had the "If they ever start dropping bombs, we'll grab guns, food and family and head into the mountains!" mentality. I remember vividly saying to my oldest brother "I'd rather be under the first one that hits" and him practically blowing his cork because to him, that was giving up. To me, it was realism - as Serling said - survive for what? A world in which everyone and everything I ever knew was gone? All my friends and family dead? No thanks.
@@TheDoctor1225 Well, I’ve heard your response, even by others, including my wife, who would opt to be killed immediately rather than try to survive a nuclear holocaust. However, my take on it is this: Yes, most, if not all, of my loved ones would die, but I couldn’t just think about myself and loved ones, I would have to think about how crucial it would be to save the human race itself from extinction. The few survivors would need to keep our species alive, hence I would fight with every last drop of blood in my veins to stay alive, not for myself but for the larger picture, the survival of humanity amid insanity. And hopefully the new breed of humans would learn never to be so stupid again. Yet I have little faith in that optimistic viewpoint. However, let’s hope such a calamitous day will never come and we wouldn’t need to make these choices.
rod serling was that one guy. that one guy that could put reality into his work and make something for pop culture that made people think in a more open way and make it a good thing to question what people already knew. that one guy that while doing all that stuff was still able to put on a game face for whenever he was on radio or tv. he played a character during this interview and was himself during the twilight zone. guy's a genius.
"In order for the human race to survive we have to remain civilized" Speaks volumes in todays climate. Thanks for this nugget. Rod Sterling was the Shakespeare of television.
Incidentally, Bob Crane's voice was briefly heard as a radio disc jockey in the episode "Static" {March 10, 1961}- he WAS a disc jockey for CBS' KNX affiliate in Los Angeles at the time. This excerpt from Crane's radio show was heard in October 1961, a month after "The Shelter" originally aired {September 29, 1961}. Bob later gave up his KNX show to become a regular on "THE DONNA REED SHOW" in the fall of 1963, then moved on to 'HOGAN'S HEROES".
While Crane does say the 'Shelter' episode of Twilight Zone had aired 'about a month or so ago,' he later in this excerpt (3:15) makes a more specific reference to its then being 'Bill of Rights week,' an anniversary commemorated in mid-December. Which thus leads me to think that this interview actually dates from December 1961 rather than October (with Bob's approximate timeline of 'about a month or so ago' really meaning more like two-and-a-half months).
Rod Serling had another one called “ The Old Man in the Cave” . About surviving a nuclear war. They got answers from the Old Man. James Coburn is in it.
@@williamhaynes4800 Yes. And also 'One More Pallbearer' (which aired later in the same season as 'The Shelter') -- a man gathers together all the people who he feels had wronged him in his life, and tries to extort an apology out of them in return for letting them stay in his underground shelter during what appears to be a nuclear alert.
The Shelter is my favorite Twilight Zone episode featuring Jack Albertson, actor best known for portraying Grandpa Joe in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
I don't know if it was the same panel discussion that Bob Crane referred to, but a Jesuit priest, Richard McBrien, was asked what would be a catholic response to a plea from someone begging to be let in to a bomb shelter. McBrien said that there was only once response a Christian could make is to give us up his place in the shelter.
I don't think I father and mother would have abandoned their children so someone else could come in and take that place obviously a Jesuit priest wouldn't be able to really answer that question
What people and human nature are all about under the thin veneer of civility, although this was filmed when America was a way more civilized country. Today the savagery is way more exposed. For thousands of years people lived savage lives, it is only recently (post WW2) that in some countries and in some parts of the world people have started to respect each other. That so easily can be lost.
Ironically,Serling was not the original narrator on his own show.The pilot was originally narrated by Westbrook van Voorhis,a newsreel narrator.After his voice was deemed too pompous,CBS considered Orson Welles,Serling objected,so he did the narration himself.
Do you think I'm going to stand by and watch while my wife and children die in agony? I'm not going to do it! Bill, I'm not gonna do it! I'm sorry, please forgive me. I kept telling you, Jerry... all of you... Get ready, build a shelter. Forget the card parties and the barbecues for maybe a few hours a week, forget them, and make the admission to yourself that the worst was possible. But you didn't want to listen. None of you wanted to listen. Please, bill. To build a shelter was to admit to the kind of age we lived in, and none of you had the guts to face that. So now you've got to face something far worse! So, god, please, god protect you. It's out of my hands. It's simply out of my hands.
Just watched this on Netflix. It originally aired on 9/29/61 & it's mentioned at the beginning of the interview that it was broadcast about month before. So I would guess October/November 1961. Liked Rod's response on why he hadn't built one-who would want to live in that kind of world?
But that's not how it works, you won't come out to a world of rubble and poisioned water, for the most part. Fallout would subside over weeks time, and The rubble would be cleared out by Civil Defense workers.
I've seen every episode of TZ multiple times over. The Shelter was one that I always remembered because it was _so_ on point. It showed true human nature, as ugly as it can be. The quote from this episode is something I'll never forget.
(after they had broke down the door of their neighbors shelter and said horrible things to eachother and found out it was a false alarm)
Jerry Harlow: Hey that's a great idea, block party, anything to get back to normal, huh?
Dr. Bill Stockton: Normal? I don't know. I don't know what normal is. I thought I did once. I don't anymore.
Jerry Harlowe: I told you we'd pay for the damages, Bill.
Dr. Bill Stockton: *Damages? I wonder. I wonder if anyone of us has any idea what those damages really are. Maybe one of them is finding out what we're really like when we're normal; the kind of people we are just underneath the skin. I mean all of us: a bunch of naked wild animals, who put such a price on staying alive that they'd claw their neighbors to death just for the privilege. We were spared a bomb tonight, but I wonder if we weren't destroyed even without it.*
WOW. Mind Blowing.
They cut it out twice, on MeTV my favorite line in the "Shelter ", that one neighbor says to Marty," Nobody cares what you think, you or your kind!" And later he says he was off his rocker!
And we are seeing this RIGHT NOW
Serling was possibly the best writer in television history.
And Roddenberry
Serling had experiences like few other writers. As a 17 year old US Army Paratrooper he saw 1/2 his battalion slowly wiped out fighting the Japanese. He saw the best and worst of men.
Along with Paddy Chayefsky
Reginald Rose round out the top three with them.@@MrShobar
I had the honor of being in the same school building as Mr. Serling at Ithaca College back in the "Seventies. He gave my graduation address and was terrific.
Please post positive proof pronto
Pics preferred
@@josephambrose2852 aaahhhh hahahahahahaha
He spoke at my 1971 Commencement at Emerson College. We shook hands.
Saw this episode on Netflix last night... all I could think of was Joker's quote:"When the chips are down, these 'civilized' people... they'll eat each other."
Twilight Zone is on Netflix?
@@venangoproductions some seasons/episodes, not everything.
I never knew Bob crane flowed so well in an intellectual conversation. He was under utilized /both men R.I.P.
You'd think these two guys talking happened just this morning. Instead we're hearing the voices of two men who passed away a lifetime ago.
Wow, what a great find! We get to hear an previously unheard (in modern times) interview with Serling about a Twilight Zone episode, and, we get to hear Bob Crane on his KNX radio show. I always heard he started in radio, but never actually heard tape.
It's crazy to realize that Bob Crane had a career prior to HOGAN'S HEROES! I've noticed lots of entertainers got their start working as DJs before getting in front of a camera. Bob Eubanks, Sly from Sly and The Family Stone, the rapper Ludacris, Mean Gene Okerland from WWE. Just something about being able to engage an audience with merely your voice. Orson Welles understood that better than anyone else with his WAR OF THE WORLDS radio broadcast! 😎🇵🇷🇺🇸🗽🦂
I was 8 yrs. Old when this episode aired, and I never forgot it. I was thrilled to see it again 60 years later and it was just as good as I remembered.
Ultimately ,preparedness is a responsibility on every individual. If you fail to provide safety and shelter for you and your loved ones you can't put the burden on someone else to keep you safe
The hindsight of History has shown us that Mr Serling wrote it exactly as it should have been written... and the ending comments a perfect epilogue to ponder for the ages... R.I.P.
Loved this intense TZ episode and always wondered what Serling's own views were about it. Although he said he had no clear answer, when Crane asked why he didn't build his own shelter, the answer was revealed. As a child I recall the scary thoughts of WWIII and also contemplated the aftermath of such a calamity, as did millions of others. Serling's ability to give intense, dramatic life to those fears was provocative in those days, and remain a profound philosophical statement of the human condition.
Being born in '70 and growing up during the 80's and the days leading up to the end of the Cold War, I also remember having those kinds of thoughts, especially living in Upstate NY. Many of my brothers and extended family had the "If they ever start dropping bombs, we'll grab guns, food and family and head into the mountains!" mentality. I remember vividly saying to my oldest brother "I'd rather be under the first one that hits" and him practically blowing his cork because to him, that was giving up. To me, it was realism - as Serling said - survive for what? A world in which everyone and everything I ever knew was gone? All my friends and family dead? No thanks.
@@TheDoctor1225 Well, I’ve heard your response, even by others, including my wife, who would opt to be killed immediately rather than try to survive a nuclear holocaust.
However, my take on it is this: Yes, most, if not all, of my loved ones would die, but I couldn’t just think about myself and loved ones, I would have to think about how crucial it would be to save the human race itself from extinction.
The few survivors would need to keep our species alive, hence I would fight with every last drop of blood in my veins to stay alive, not for myself but for the larger picture, the survival of humanity amid insanity.
And hopefully the new breed of humans would learn never to be so stupid again. Yet I have little faith in that optimistic viewpoint. However, let’s hope such a calamitous day will never come and we wouldn’t need to make these choices.
Same with me. Seasons 3, 4, and 5 of the Twilight Zone are my favorites overall.
rod serling was that one guy.
that one guy that could put reality into his work and make something for pop culture that made people think in a more open way and make it a good thing to question what people already knew.
that one guy that while doing all that stuff was still able to put on a game face for whenever he was on radio or tv. he played a character during this interview and was himself during the twilight zone. guy's a genius.
It's refreshing to listen to a morning radio show with no phone pranks or morning zoos...
One of the greatest episodes of all time. Larry Gates' monologue and Serling's closing statement always give me chills.
Bob Crane was in a Twilight Zone episode -- or at least, his voice -- as a radio announcer in the episode "Static."
i consider Rod to be a genius.
Yes, Mr. Serling had gifted insight...
"In order for the human race to survive we have to remain civilized" Speaks volumes in todays climate. Thanks for this nugget. Rod Sterling was the Shakespeare of television.
Bob Crane has a great voice over and radio voice
Recorded a full year before the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Rod Serling's voice is simply chilling. This man could inspire fear reading a grocery list.
I just love hearing his commentary for some of these episodes. This episode was particularly potent, I think.
Thanks for posting, what a great insight into Mr Serling! I didn't even know he was married
Incidentally, Bob Crane's voice was briefly heard as a radio disc jockey in the episode "Static" {March 10, 1961}- he WAS a disc jockey for CBS' KNX affiliate in Los Angeles at the time. This excerpt from Crane's radio show was heard in October 1961, a month after "The Shelter" originally aired {September 29, 1961}. Bob later gave up his KNX show to become a regular on "THE DONNA REED SHOW" in the fall of 1963, then moved on to 'HOGAN'S HEROES".
While Crane does say the 'Shelter' episode of Twilight Zone had aired 'about a month or so ago,' he later in this excerpt (3:15) makes a more specific reference to its then being 'Bill of Rights week,' an anniversary commemorated in mid-December. Which thus leads me to think that this interview actually dates from December 1961 rather than October (with Bob's approximate timeline of 'about a month or so ago' really meaning more like two-and-a-half months).
This story played out yesterday in Hawaii 1/13/2018.
Stephen Good yes exactly. I was watching this episode like a couple days ago and then the Hawaii incident happens. Crazy.
Rod Serling had another one called “ The Old Man in the Cave” . About surviving a nuclear war. They got answers from the Old Man. James Coburn is in it.
That one’s good
Don't forget Time Enough At Last.
@@williamhaynes4800 Yes. And also 'One More Pallbearer' (which aired later in the same season as 'The Shelter') -- a man gathers together all the people who he feels had wronged him in his life, and tries to extort an apology out of them in return for letting them stay in his underground shelter during what appears to be a nuclear alert.
i forgot that Crane was a dj .... he was an interesting guy that had an unfortunate end.
The Shelter is my favorite Twilight Zone episode featuring Jack Albertson, actor best known for portraying Grandpa Joe in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
An interesting interview. Thanks for putting it up.
The Bill of Rights? My, how times have changed.
Two or three thousand dollars to build a fallout shelter? Wow, those days are long gone...
That's about $25,000 today. Honestly, I expected it to be much more...
TV writers today should study Serling.
I don't know if it was the same panel discussion that Bob Crane referred to, but a Jesuit priest, Richard McBrien, was asked what would be a catholic response to a plea from someone begging to be let in to a bomb shelter. McBrien said that there was only once response a Christian could make is to give us up his place in the shelter.
I don't think I father and mother would have abandoned their children so someone else could come in and take that place obviously a Jesuit priest wouldn't be able to really answer that question
Dlsofsetx-I agree with you .He was one of the best writers-and my favorite. ...TONY
I honestly feel like even tho the technology then isn't what it is now they were still light-years ahead of us
What people and human nature are all about under the thin veneer of civility, although this was filmed when America was a way more civilized country. Today the savagery is way more exposed. For thousands of years people lived savage lives, it is only recently (post WW2) that in some countries and in some parts of the world people have started to respect each other. That so easily can be lost.
@fromthesidelines brilliant episode, and a very good writer and observer of humankind ....
I got it from Marc Scott Zicree's book,The Twilight Zone Companion.
I wish he could have lived to see the Fallout game series I bet he would have liked it.
+brentgord I believe you may be right about that.
Was thinking the same exact thing. These Twilight Zone episodes involving nuclear war always makes me think of Fallout
I was working at the Barn Dinner Theatre in Shreveport, La when Bob Crane died in his dressing room. What a weird day.
Actually he was murdered in his apartment.
Ironically,Serling was not the original narrator on his own show.The pilot was originally narrated by Westbrook van Voorhis,a newsreel narrator.After his voice was deemed too pompous,CBS considered Orson Welles,Serling objected,so he did the narration himself.
Do you think I'm going to stand by and watch while my wife and children die in agony?
I'm not going to do it!
Bill, I'm not gonna do it!
I'm sorry, please forgive me.
I kept telling you, Jerry... all of you...
Get ready, build a shelter.
Forget the card parties and the barbecues for maybe a few hours a week, forget them, and make the admission to yourself that the worst was possible.
But you didn't want to listen.
None of you wanted to listen.
Please, bill.
To build a shelter was to admit to the kind of age we lived in, and none of you had the guts to face that.
So now you've got to face something far worse!
So, god, please, god protect you.
It's out of my hands.
It's simply out of my hands.
We are seeing a similar situation of The Shelter" playing out in our country now.
yes we are, yes we are.
Rod in a bomb shelter...how would he be able to consume a carton of smokes a day in an inclosed box
Hahahahahahahahaha!
that was messed up what the doctor's neighbors did .
Bill of Rights Day,
Needed more today than ever. They just wanted to bbq…
thanks for putting this up! i can use this for my paper, great interview. does anyone know the date of this interview?
Just watched this on Netflix. It originally aired on 9/29/61 & it's mentioned at the beginning of the interview that it was broadcast about month before. So I would guess October/November 1961. Liked Rod's response on why he hadn't built one-who would want to live in that kind of world?
@@1incipitvitanova The BBC film "Threads" (produced in 1984) gives an idea of what living in that kind of world might be like. Not a pretty picture.
When Bob says learned, I thought of Breaking Bad
Wow, how America changed... People don't know what the Bill of Rights is anymore
Is this the same Bob Crane who was murdered?
John Stanworth yes he was a d.j. before he went into TV
Murdered by a dope pusher, who served him up a mixture of drugs.
Just wow
Is this the C. Crane Radio and Electronics spokesman, or is it, uh..."Hogan?" The late "alligator room" Bob?
This is Colonel Hogan.
Ha ha! Great Joke! I Lol'd so hard!
Bob Crane, ladies man and swinger!
And apparently capable of more than reciting a script and smiling on cue.
2 or 3 thousand dollars ! Ha ! That only buys a good backyard canopy these days !
For your consideration...
Ah yes, season 3, episode 3.
The most likely suspect died in 1998.
Nice vid
Their is nothing to go back to everything is gone from the world
COVID 19
But that's not how it works, you won't come out to a world of rubble and poisioned water, for the most part. Fallout would subside over weeks time, and The rubble would be cleared out by Civil Defense workers.
What's a civil defense worker
@@itjustyouraveragecanadian9604 anyone working in Civil Defense. In any division
Where can we find the script?
Cuban missile crisis looming.
Duck and cover.....and kiss your a@@ goodbye 😄
Really.??.
rod sterling sounds like johnny depp
Vladislav Depp is a mental lightweight...don't hear the sameness in their voices either.
And Bob Crane sounds like Johnny Carson to me
The Rod Serling of our time is Jordan Peterson.