TISAS 1911A1 AVIATOR 45acp UNBOXING.
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2023
- In this video I’m unboxing the Tisas 1911a1 aviator 45acp.I’m a fan of Tisas 1911s but this one is a disappointment. I have collected 8 of them so far but I would not recommend this one watch the full video and find out why!
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I have Star PD .45 with aluminum frame and feed ramp from the early 80's that has hundreds of hardball and defensive rounds thru it that has held up just fine and I'm sure the metallurgy in 2023 is much better.
Hopefully it’s does good.but aluminum is not going to stand a lot of high impact friction for a lot of rounds.thanks for the info friend.
Plenty of aluminum framed guns with tens of thousands of rounds thru them.
I have a Tisas MAC 1911 JSOC 45acp. It too has a brass front bead. I absolutely love this gun runs fabulous.
Thanks for the info friend.
Complain if it fails. Only then! Non issue till then. Lots of aluminum framed no ramped 45 1911s and they run forever… Otherwise good as usual.
Hopefully it does ok on the range.
I have a Kimber Pro Carry and a Para Expert Commander both in .45 w/aluminum frames (non-ramped barrels) and I've had no issues with the frame ramps getting damage by ammo. The ammo is less an issue damaging the frames then using non skirted magazines. When using magazines with non-skirted followers the follower can dig into the aluminum frame ramp. On aluminum framed 1911's using non ramped barrels, I recommend only using magazines with skirted or plastic followers link Wilson 47D mags. The Tisas Aviator does come with a magazine with a skirted follower so don't believe it will damage the frame ramp. I've seen issues with 1911's using ramped barrels having feeding issues and I believe that's why all the major 1911 manufacturers still use non ramped barrels in .45 cal 1911's. But this just my personal experience.
Thanks for the info friend hopefully it does well on the range.
That's an excellent point. Thanks for all your vids and advice.
Thanks friend.
I asked Tisas USA some many months ago if they ramped the barrel on their .45's like they do their 9mm and they replied NEGATIVE. Like you said, it is unfortunate, but that ramp to barrel interface seems to be a common issue with many 1911 designs with a ramped frame -vs- a ramped barrel in any caliber. I also believe that there could be a higher coefficient of friction between the copper jackets and the aluminum frame/feed ramp even though it is hardened and polished. All I'm saying is watch some videos on 1911s with similar construction and make your own conclusions. Safe shooting
Thanks for the info friend.
Damn, thanks for this review. This was a detail that was not mentioned anywhere else, and it is a dealbreaker for me. I’ve had aluminum frame guns with a ramp cut directly into the aluminum frame before. It’s one of those shoot it until it fails types of deals, and eventually that aluminum will give out after enough cycling.
And unlike colt aluminum frames, which are anodized On the ramp, these are cut directly into the soft aluminum, Leaving it there. Same as my old para.
I agree friend.
Seems like a weak complaint since Colt has been making Aluminum framed Commanders for nearly 3/4 of a century. I would shoot it with the proper magazines, and check for reliability, just like I would any other firearm. If the ramp is damaged, have the frame cut for a ramped barrel, but I suspect you will receive many years of good service before that happens, and I seriously doubt it ever does happen.
It’s not really a complaint just wanted to give a honest opinion in my video.they have made aluminum frame ramps for years but from what I’ve read there’s more failures than not with them.
You’re better than me! If that 1911 was advertised as having a ramped barrel when obviously it doesn’t, we’d have to go back and forth on that subject. Again, the consumer is getting screwed and not getting what was advertised or what you paid for. I’m glad you published this video, now I question anything I see on their website.
I can understand that although I am a big Tisas fan.
I have the Stingray Carry lightweight in 45 ACP with the feed ramp on the frame. I've only fired it about 250 rounds with 230 gr hardball but when I inspected the feed ramp after the last firing and before cleaning and could not see any skid marks in the residue on the ramp. After cleaning I inspected it again and I could not find any indication of friction or wear on the feed ramp. I'm 81 years old and this makes me think the gun will outlast me. The one problem I am having is after it has about 40 or 50 rounds through it it starts to have FTF on the last round in the magazine. I have the two Mec gar magazine that came with it and two Wilson Combat magazines. Doesn't matter if the magazines are fully loaded or only have 3 to 5 rounds in them, the last round doesn't feed right and doesn't go into the chamber straight. I have to stop, turn the pistol upside down and dump the round out. All the rest of the rounds feed without a hitch.
Thanks for the info friend.
Also have Stingray carry, 150 rounds. No problems, but also occasional last round (with 8 round magazine) issue. 7 rounders run perfect.
45 acts differently in a 1911 then 9mm...most smaller cartridges in 1911s need ramps to function
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
Good point. If a 1911 is to be shot a lot a full sized steel frame is what that is intended for. If carried all the time and shot infrequently, like a box or 2 annually for a "certification" a lightweight alloy is fine. I have a Colt New Agent (a Defender variant) that fills such a role, and a Caspian framed true Commander with a titanium frame. Fully confident in both. If Tsias anodized that feed ramp cut that would remedy concern, standing by before I buy. Thanks. And God Bless your good works.
Thanks brother and I agree.GOD BLESS YOU!
I agree I prefer a ramped barrel with an aluminum framed 1911. I could not find any mention of a ramped barrel on the SDS website but on the Tisas USA website it does say both the 9mm and 45acp versions come with a ramped barrel. I don't personally have any aluminum framed 1911s without a ramped barrel but I have seen aluminum framed guns with chewed up feed ramps. I have 2 Tisas 9mm 1911s, a Stingray and a Nightstalker if memory serves the Stingray has a ramped barrel but the steel framed Nightstalker does not. I'm on my way to bed right now and I don't feel like digging them out of the vault to confirm, but I think I'm correct.
I have the stingray and the night stalker and you are correct friend.
Modern firearms use 7075 series aluminum in frames. The M16 started with 6061, and later switched to 7075. Both series are pretty tough.
Thanks for the info friend.
Cool. I agree w needing a ramoed barrel. Altho i do have a kimber pro carry 2 and alum ramo looks ok so far but mostly shoot hardball and golden sabers for carry
I will run fmj and defensive ammo see how it goes.
I have one and my magazine is hard I think I have to break it in. And 5 times when I shoot it the last round won't go in. Can you tell me what that can be. My first 1911
Probably a break in issue.
I agree with your reasoning. Thanks for the review.
Thanks friend.
Do you have the Tisas tank commander in 9mm? If so, your thoughts?
I have a Tisas tanker in 45acp.in my opinion it’s a great gun.
Mine runs great! I have several Tisas pistols and they all have ran great, I did have ejector problems with a Carry 9mm, but a Wilson extractor fixed that.
Yeah I really like the Tisas 1911s I own several.but the ramp in an aluminum frame there’s no way I could recommend it because high impact and friction on aluminum can’t work for a long time. I really appreciate your comment friend.
@@2Afreedomrange A spring, buffer and guide rod will solve those things.
Amen. That is a very pretty gun. Have joyous holiday season. xCop
Thanks brother.you and your family have a merry Christmas!
❤❤Another nice one
Thanks.
Thank you very much for this video.
You’re killing my wallet,lol. Have seen the Yukon?
Yeah I have one just did a video on the Yukon unboxing. I got 3 new Tisas last little bit not had time to get them on the range yet.
It would be nice it Tisas would have incorporated a bushing or race slice across that part of the feed ramp. It would not be hard to engineer a relatively thin piece of any hard metal at that point. Think of a main bearing in an engine. Of coarse, it would have to be secured, perhaps with a recess screw or a rivet. It can be done properly to prevent wear on that part of the ramp.
I agree friend.
I respect the prayer at the end. We need more people like you Sir. But fire arms and prayers is a double standard
I really appreciate your comment and honesty friend.
Yes ,Amen to more prayer, but as far as the double standard, all you have to do is look at Archangel Michael.
OK first of all ramping a barrel is easy, HOWEVER Ball (flat nose) is just fine in .45acp. The bullets are already at the size the medium bore bullets are looking to expand to.Secondly COLT made their lw Commander with an aluminum frame and had no problems with durability. IF I was really worried about the frame ramp I would use hard cast lead bullets but I seriously doubt You would have problems.
Thanks for your insight and comment friend.
Just bought one. Has ramped barrel now. Mine is a 9mm.
Yeah the 9m/m does but the 45acp doesn’t.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE your reviewing guns that you bought. Guys that review guns sent from the distributer are playing with cherry picked units. That makes a review that isn't quite right.
Stay strong brother.
Thanks friend!
Im pretty sure colt has been making them the same without ramped barrel in .45acp for long time.
That’s true but I’ve read that a lot of people have had issues with them also.hopefully this one does good.
Ive heard of hollow point issues. Id run Ball in it myself. Glad you posted a review im interested in this one myself. I just bought a COLT COMPETITION SPECIAL. Its a little heavy to carry. Although i dont mind if i have a good belt. Ive been wanting a aluminum frame gun. Id like a CARRY cut one. But for the money its fine. Considering they are even using machined small parts its hard not to look at one. I buy American when i can. But man its hard to argue the quality. Ive looked at 300 dollar models and they were fit and assembled right. HARD TO BEAT.@@2Afreedomrange
I'm with you on this. Thanks...🎯
Thanks friend.
I like the overall design but I do believe you would be right
Yeah it will in time chew up the ramp for sure.
Colt, Ruger, Smith& Wesson, Kimber lightweight and Girsan all have non ramped barrels and aluminum frames. But I agree it’s a bad idea for longevity of your 1911s.
That’s true friend.
Agreed, alum frame w/ ramp, no thx. I have a few myself, all are really tight except for my US Army. Bit of slop in that slide but not too bad. For the money, these can't be beat.
I agree friend.
That is a handsome pistol. I believe there will be future failures with this after it’s been fired enough hammering on the feed ramp of an aluminum frame.
Ruger made something similar and it was priced cheap like the pistol felt. It was really too light in the hand for a 45 acp.
I have to question, who are they making these cheap aluminum framed pistols for?….. the occasional gun shooter? A person can always go to one of the companies that makes frames and build a frankstein from parts we already have if need be.
I agree friend.
Agreed. Bad design on the feed ramp. They get chewed up
Yeah I would have went with the 9m/m if I knew how the 45acp was made.the 9m/m does have the ramped barrel.
Well, I agree there is a lot of information out there about Aluminum vs. Steel on 45 ACP at the ramp. As a potential carry, Does it matter? I own some carry pieces that are shot throughout the year. They are not used for extended range sessions of 3-400 rounds consistently. I do not compete. I do regularly practice for self defense. At this point everything is Anecdotal, which I suspect that a lot of this type of information is. There are many examples of MIM, Cast, and Steel parts breaking on a 1911 in 45. In manufacturing anything there will be some Widgets, that will be spot on within specification. Some will exceed the specification and some will fall short. It takes Good Quality Control to prevent out of spec items from reaching the consumer. Note I didn't say Excellent QC. There is always one or two that gets by the QC folks. Also it becomes a business decision for "Marginal" items barely within spec. It goes something like this. Is it in spec? Barely. IS IT IN SPEC? Well Yes. Good to go. All that occurs during the manufacturers process...The business aspect. The Best unsolicited advice. Shoot the thing. Keep track of the round count and inspect. I believe this is Tisas first Aluminum Framed venture. Currently I would feel more comfortable purchasing and Aviator in 9mm with the Clark/Para ramped barrel.
I appreciate your insight and I can agree with what you’re saying for the most part friend.
@@2Afreedomrange I went over to Tisa's website. Self correction. They make the Stingray Carry in 45 the same way. Thank you for the vid. More quality data to crunch.
Thanks friend.
I never understand why people want to run defensive rounds through a weapon designed for ball ammo?
45 caliber ball ammo will stop you in your tracks.
It was the most feared handgun in every war it has served in.
I do agree. I would not want aluminum in a 1911 platform.
I do agree with you for the most part friend.but the reason behind it is the fmj can penetrate through walls and even a person in a self defense situation you could accidentally hurt someone innocent.thanks for the comment.
@@2Afreedomrange agreed, Thanks for clarification. My carries are a Browning Black Label 380, an LPC Max(becoming my fav) and S&W 38 in my rotation.
They give me 11 to13 inches penetration with a good load.
Have an M&P, Sig, and Glock 9mm when I am in a modern mood.
People have gotten so stupid thinking about going non lethal.
Too damned old for hand to hand anymore and don't want to deal with killing stupid.
I have a couple 1911A1s as that is what I carried in military and there is nothing more fun that throwing lead.
Curious why you didn't like this without first shooting the weapon. Like to see the range test may surprise you.
My reasoning is I know aluminum is not a metal that you would use in a high impact area with a lot of friction .
The 9mm version of the aviator does have a ramped barrel.
That’s true that’s what I wish I had gotten.
Tisas website lists Aviator 45 with ramped frame...Aviator 9 with clark/para ramped barrel. If it becomes an issue, it's not stupid expensive to have the frame cut and steel ramp insert put in.🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Edit: It's under the "Additional Information" tab on the respective pages.
That’s true friend.
What finish is this frame, it looks white to me?
Aluminum
Does it resemble stainless steel? Or closer to white?
It’s a matte stainless look.
Thank u
Thanks.
if I had to guess I'd say Tisas won't be very long comin out with a new updated version of their Aviator due to that ramp is gonna cs tons of negative reviews after about 300 rounds if not before. Great analysis & top shelf content. Thanks friend
Thank you friend.
TISAS USA website clearly shows/ states a ramped frame for this pistol…
It doesnt say a ramped barrel…
The sds imports website clearly states a ramped barrel. Would copy and paste it but RUclips comments want let me
Roger that! Dang SDS!!! I think youll be ok..
I had a 1950s Colt with an aluminum frame commander… I shot thousands of rounds with no issues and no ramped barrel!!
Great reviews as well! Bravo
Aluminum is not designed for friction there will be a time ammo will start gouging the ramp.especially with hollow points.
@@2Afreedomrange I understand your reservations and the SDS issues…
I think youll be ok with the ammo/ frame…. Od voice a concern when it happens. That said my Bantam has the aluminum frame non ramped barrel 45…. Im in the same boat. We shall see
That’s true.I’m a big fan of the Tisas 1911s but I wouldn’t have purchased the aviator if knew they made the ramp in the frame.
I'm looking at the Tisas USA site and it says nothing about a ramped barrel. It does say "Frame: Aluminum, Full-Size Ramped". And condemning the pistol without extensive testing is ridiculous.
I looked at the Tisas imports sight and it did say the barrel is ramped.I’ve got it saved in my photos but RUclips comments won’t let me copy and paste.when I do the range review I will put it in that video.as far as condemning it is I could not recommend this firearm because of extremely high potential for failure with a aluminum ramp.aluminum is not a metal that you would use in a high impact with a lot friction area they have been tried before but from what I read there’s been more failures than not with them .there will be issues with it sooner or later. I in my videos I give one man’s opinion and want to be honest with the viewers that watch them. I have 8 Tisas 1911s and love them all but this one. I do really appreciate your comment friend.
Sure is a good looking 1911!
It is just don’t like the ramp in the aluminum frame.
@@2Afreedomrange it might wear into the most perfect ramp ever. If anything I may shy away from steel case!
@@chrislang5659 it may be all right for a while but aluminum isn’t a metal I would prefer for a high impact friction area.
I have 2000 rounds thru mine. Zero malfunctions!
That’s good to know thanks for the info friend.
Why diss it before trying it? My son has one that shoots everything he's tried.
Because of the aluminum ramp with high impact and a lot of friction this pistol will not have a long life if it is shot a lot. I would rather recommend something that has a higher probability of lasting a life time.thanks for your comment friend.
The rule of thumb is, 45acp sometimes, 9mm always. The gun was designed to feed 45 230gn ball, it knows where to feed that ammo. The 9mm version has no idea, therefore the ramp gives it some help.
I agree with that.but this I know is aluminum is not a desirable metal to use where there is high impact and friction.that’s the reason why I would not recommend it to anyone. I appreciate your input friend.
That big gay billboard logo on the slide just looks like hell.
lol 😂
Dear friend, we need to have a talk about audio clipping
I’m not a very good video editor lol.
Send it back or sell it then should have checked it before u bought it and sent it back
You’re right I should’ve checked it before I bought it friend.
How can you not recommend a gun that you've never pulled the trigger on it
Because of the aluminum ramp if you understand high impact and friction aluminum is not a metal that you would use in that situation although it has been used in the past but there were a lot of issues with it chewing up the ramp. I would rather recommend one that would last a life time. I Appreciate your comment friend.
I hate Aluminum but like better than plastic
I can understand your thinking on that friend.
I would never buy a aluminum frame 45ACP 1911.
I can understand that friend.
It's "classical".
I can agree with that.
You say everything on it was perfect but don’t recommend it 🤣
That’s true except you missed the part about the ramp being in the aluminum frame that is the reason I wouldn’t recommend it.thanks for your input friend.
@@2Afreedomrange I heard that. Did it make a difference?
@@bionichustla100 yeah the ramp in the frame is already getting scared up.
You are incorrect bud
I wouldn’t recommend it that’s my opinion based on the fact that aluminum is not a metal you would use in a high impact area with a lot of friction.there will be issues with it sooner or later.especially when there are better options out there that will last a lot longer.but I do appreciate your comment friend.
@@2Afreedomrange
Ok but I still disagree with you
That’s ok friend it’s just a matter of opinion and I respect yours.
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