Don't be silly. You don't have to worry about the costs of a Stormwind apartment. We aren't allowed to live anywhere! Both the Alliance and the Horde force their adventurers to be homeless so they will just keep on moving, forced to fight whatever comes next.
I rped as a former alliance SI-7 Ranger who died to their squad when they jumped him because he was using a spell to make him look undead. Now he wants the world to burn and is a n'zoth cultist. He sacrifices the children of the alliance to bring n'zoth back sooner.
@@loruth I mean I could understand the rivalry between Goblins and Gnomes, other than that? When Vulpera launched, many Orc and Troll Rp-ers starting to use them as punt material instead of gnomes. Also "huhuh, tiny people be easy meat".
@@RayXVisiona Punting is a terrible thing, Somehow my Gnome avoids it IC but yes its kind of annoying when you get bullied because you picked the nerd/small race. Vulpera have a their own stigma attached to them that might lead to them being picked on.
“Burnt down the ancestral home of the Night Elves” ah yes, the ancestral home that’s been there since shortly after the events of Warcraft 3, very ancestral.
Sneakingdead was amazing, and I loved when you read the question every time must've gotten tiring especially with the multiple takes I bet you did! Great work Kakio :D
just an FYI the Tree was not the ancestral of the Night Elves it was created around the Third war (Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos) and was destroyed at start of BFA which means they only were there for 15 -20 years tops
As a Vulpera of the Horde, I would like to speak peacefully with the Alliance, so that I may ask the worgans of the Alliance where their tails are. They always look so sad when they see my kind's tails, and now same when they see the Draktheyr.
And yet again another amazing video. I love these awesome rp talks. I always tried to found ya Kakio in game but not much luck. Maybe I need to make a Horde side class in Argent Dawn (if you still in there). Anyways hope you have fun with these recordings. Sure I do enjoy all your work so far. Keep it up!
On the topic of learning Common, Forsaken (in lore, this was removed in gameplay for reasons relating to cross-faction chat abuse) can speak Common. I'm sure this would make it somewhat easier to mend relations in a meaningful way, if the Horde showcase that they are willing to learn the language of the people they want to make peace with by endorsing the education and learning of the language from the Forsaken first, and only then broaching the topic of potential long-term peace with the Alliance, in the Alliance's own language. Of course, this would be a two-way street and the Alliance would be encouraged to learn the primary language of the Horde in return, which is Orcish, as a sign of mutual respect.
in lore, wouldn't the forsaken be a mix of all different races brought back from the dead? and wouldn't they then speak all different languages anyway?
As an Alliance player, I would never accept the horde into out ranks and lands, for simple reason. Goldshire is already horrible as it is. Imagine it with furris. Or goblins. Or worse, blood elfs. No thanks.
@@booll5571 why would the horde want the goat people? the goats are the reason the orcs are in the situation they are in anyway. the Draenai led the burning legion to their homeland and caused most of the damage to their society. The orcs were a peaceful shamanistic race up until that point.
As an alliance player, I like the idea of further getting rid of barriers to let friends be able to play with each other no matter their faction. However.......IF ITS RED, THEN ITS DEAD. FOR THE ALLIANCE
See I was with you, but I also dream of the day when we ( alliance) can win at least one battleground. Strategy over kill count would be nice....for once.
@@Preaplanes I play on Grobbulus where it's pretty neck and neck compared to other servers. But honestly to hell being on a server where your faction is vast majority because then pvp is far in-between. I remember getting bored on Horde a lot for this reason lol
Ancestral home of the Night Elves.. Teldrassil have been planted after the third war. No ancestry to be found there. just a giant bonfire which got set ablaze
As a human hunter I always wanted to visit mulgore, the taurens are chill and they know about hunting, so yeah we should join forces at least for me, I am friendly neutral, by far the taurens are the best I think they dont really have a bloody past with the alliance (asides from Taurajo wich Baine already put an end to that situation) also Baine is a friend of our king and friendly with Jaina, Thunder bluff could be my new home. #LetsBreakTheCycle 🤝
Ancestral home of the night elves? Dude they moved in literally just before the start of WoW… and they built their city on top of a Military target that they knew the Legion was gunning for…
Heh. Way back when I bought and installed the WoW client (along with the subscription), it wasn't long after the beta (which I hadn't played) and I picked Forsaken for the Common language, expecting the main storyline to be doing ambassadorial duties in Alliance territory and helping block whatever outside forces and idiots wanted conflict to break out again. ...That tells you a lot about my subsequent experience. I stuck around for a few years afterwards, mostly because I enjoyed exploration and the low-level gameplay enough to keep making new characters. but the game kept moving in directions I wasn't enjoying.
It kinda would be nice especially if we could do each other's quests. When I'm leveling some alts, going to the Alliance bfa zones is the fastest but the Hoard side is spread out way way WAY too much and I would rather run my Horde characters through the Alliance quests.
The trolls wouldn't because The Night Elves committed literal genocide on the Dark Trolls (who were their actual ancestors) The Blood Elves (aka the High Elves) actually tried to rejoin the Alliance back at the beginning of TBC/end of Vanilla. But Tyrande thought it was a good idea to literally sabotage the arcane sanctums which were holding back the Scourge from completing the destruction of the already in shambles Quel'Thelas and surrounding areas. And the the rest of the Alliance were either helping Tyrande do it, or were just passively complicit. While Sylvannas offered actual support and physical aid since Quel'Thalas was her homeland and she was their former Ranger General. Tyrande was all pissy and bitched about the Nightbourne (who were just night elves living in Surramar before the Sundering) hiding behind their shield, so after Elisande was defeated she basically gave them the finger and left ignoring Thalyssra's request for aid rebuilding and reconciling with the rest of the Night Elves. While the Blood Elves offered actual support and physical aid, while also truly understanding what the Nightbourne were going through after all the crap that went down surrounding the Sunwell. The Void Elves were banished from the Blood Elves in the first place because they are a literal threat to the Sunwell just by coming near it (due to how it reacts in the presence of Void energy). So nope. I'm honestly surprised Tyrande hasn't thrown one of her usual hissy fits over the Void Elves in an attempt to sabotage that Alliance relationship. So that pretty much eliminates any chances of the 4 elven groups reconciling into a singular faction one way or the other. There's waaaaaaay too much history between the Draenei and the orcs. Between the Draenei rightfully not trusting the orcs, and the orcs not being happy that the Draenei were basically invaders to their homeworld that brought the Legin there to enslave them in the first place. Not a lot of wiggle room there. Add in that Y'rel is currently eliminating any remaining potential for co-existance between the Dreanai and Orcs with her fanatical Inquisition of the Light. So that's also a no go. The goblins and the gnomes would probably be cool with joining forces for purely technological (and financial) gain purposes.Side note, when is Blizz goingto give us Gnomblins already? I'm looking at you Saffie and Grazz. The dwarves in general likely wouldn't care one way or the other once the fighting stopped. The Dark Iron at least would be cool since they were already used to working with numerous members of various Horde races when they were still serving Rag. The Tauren would likewise probably be perfectly ok working with anyone so long as they were chill and interested in protecting Azzeroth. Except for the Grimtotem, but they are just a tribe of douches and everyone hates them (rightly so). The only reason Magtha Grimtotem isn't the most strategically and politically idiotic character in Warcraft history is because Tyrande exists.
@@Dezkoi well I mean.. between orcs, that belf king quelthalas or something? and the undead.. yeah uh, the horde does have a LOT of evil for the sake of evil. alliance has a bunch of bitches, and people who are blind asf and make stupid petty decisions, but like, the horde isn't some unspoken angel... i only feel sympathy for the tauren, the undead who don't do shitty things, and a lot of the belves who aren't blind either.
We forgetting about the horde invading Gilneas and Silvanas killing Greymane son so that leaves the Worgen out of the picture , also the horde blowing Theramore to smithereens and the recent burning of Teldrassil ofc. Also you make the blood elves look like some kind of martyrs when they're a bunch of magic addict cunts who would do literally anything for their next fix that's why they like the Nightborne so much a crackhead knows another crackhead.
@@matrix255 Greymane's personal grudge against Sylvanas is understandable to a degree. But that only extends to the rest of the Worgens in that he is their King and not beyond that particular personal grudge. War is war and people die in war. The invasion of Gilneas is one of the many boneheaded things to happen under Garrosh. And don't forget the Horde had a literal Civil war about that and many other things which happened due to his choices. As far as magical addiction goes. That's something ALL High Elves have to deal with and always did have to deal with, even before Azshara pulled her shenanigans with Sargeras to usher in the first invasion of the Legion. Even the handful of High Elves who decided to stick with the Alliance and all of the ones who are hanging in Dalaran. Also, are we forgetting that the Nightborne have been cured of that thanks to the fruit of the tree in the Arc'Andor, and are working to determine if it can also be used to cure all High Elves of their genetic magical addiction. Either way, none of that justifies or explains Tyrande literally trying to set it up so that the Scourge succeeded in their attempts to take over all of Quel'Thelas out of her own petty idiotic spite. Especially when the rest of the Eastern Kingdom nations could barely handle the even smaller groups of Scourge plaguing their lands as is, and also had their hands full still dealing with the existing Plaguelands without actively setting it up so that an improved and more globally dangerous Plaguelands 2.0 would happen if the Scourge claimed a foothold as powerful as Quel'Thelas+Sunwell and bolstered it's ranks with the largest concentration of High Elven mages and warriors left on the planet. Also, are we forgetting the racist human General who was sending the Blood Elves on suicide missions when they were members of the Alliance, because of his "If it ain't human, F it" beliefs. And when they were forced to work with naga just to not die on said suicide missions, had them executed in large numbers, just because. Because that's what initiated them leaving the Alliance in the first place. And are you also forgetting that the thing that really solidified Quel'Thelas AND Gilneas fully leaving the Alliance was Stormwind signing off on and creating the concentration camps for orcs (and the other racial Kingdoms in the Alliance being ok with that). If you think stating the actual historical canon of the Blood Elves (from WC2-3 AND from within WoW since the end of Vanilla/TBC) is someone trying to make them sound like martyrs, then that's entirely on your own warped perspective. The point being made, was that there are some pretty massive goings on between most of the various races of both factions that makes unifying long-term/permanently into a single allied ideological political organization a never going to happen situation.
@@franji4998 The TH finished off the last of them (almost none by that point in Cata) that weren't in places that were rightfully shared homelands of both Dark Trolls and Night Elves.. But the vast bulk were killed by the NE's when they kicked everyone else out of Hyja and the surrounding regions of Kalimdor. Grommash took out one or two settlements in Ashenvale later. But the vast majority were killed at the hands of the NE's before and after the 3rd War. With Tyrande and Malfurion literally leading forces through NE lands specifically for the purpose of eradicating the Dark Troll settlements. The ones the Twightlight Hammer killed were just the last little bits left after the Night Elves systematically bumped off the other 90%.
Christian Finnish Frostiis When i start i will play WOTLK and i am not planning leaving but planning to play on RP server with my BFF forver, i think the older feel of the game when the war between Alliance & Horde is more presented & still present. I want to play Horde, fight the good fight against Alliance. I once accidentally in my rage during vanilla WoW broke my screen with keyboard after Gnome warrior beat my Forsaken Warrior, war everlasting !
My dream is to run a 'adventure guild' type of thing with members from both the Alliance and the Horde co-existing and working together. it would be nice to have an option.
Me, logging in to Moonguard on my identical tiny dracthyr. Confused as to why there's so many rats in their maze of a city. Then back to Wyrmrest where it's nice and asymmetrical
As an Alliance player and warmonger to the core... we need more fuel added to the fire. Peace will make the Horde and Alliance weak for when future threats come. Like a grindstone, this war between the horde and alliance keeps our blades sharp for when the real threats emerge. Let the conflict continue, let it get worse, let the wolves rise from amongst the sheep.. Totally not ripping off Apollyon's idea from For Honor... But... she does have a point lol.
On EU there's basically just one RP realm, it's still dominantly Alliance, and Horde RP is lately very much hidden away among guilds that travel the world. Once per month there's an event at the Valley of Wisdom in orgrimmar, and if you're lucky some evenings you'll find more than 1-2 people RP-ing at the Wyvern's Tail tavern in the Valley of Honour), like it was depicted in this video!
Hord joining the Alliance? Nice... I get closer to the humans to assassinate them. Also... infinite supply of gnomes, dwarfs and other throwing weapons...
Most horde RP on Argent Dawn is hidden away into Guilds that travel the world / Dragon Isles. Occasionally you can get lucky and find people hanging in Valley of Honour (the RP place) around the Wyvern's Tail (Tavern). Once per month there's some big community event in Orgrimmar that has been growing the past weeks, an effort of a few players to try to 'repair' horde RP.
Teldrassil is not the ancestral home of the night elves, that's Ashenvale; Teldrassil didnt even exist prior to World of Warcraft and is more or less an unsanctioned (unblessed) World Tree created by Fangdral Staghelm.
I have played Wow up until Mist of Pandaria. With the Horde. I would never join the Alliance. When i was active, i had a deep hatred for the Alliance, especially gnomes. The sound they make when hit and dying was so satisfying. When i think about it, i hated every race from the Alliance. I did mostly pvp. Raided The Capitals many times.
Eventually every race in WOW will probably be living in the same city considering the ideology of the people now in charge of world of Warcraft is one that must reflect the modern world In my opinion, a lore reset is the only thing that can save this game going forward.
To answer your question: I was a horde player and i got forced into be once. I will make a fraktion swap at my main and two outher charas because i CAN and its feels right. So yeah Hordies join the alliance if they get forced into the horde and dont wants to be a horde at all.
I didn't think Teldrassil (the tree that burned) was the Night Elven ancestral home. I thought it was Nordrassil. The lore has become complicated so I am not sure about much of Azeroth anymore.
To be honest I don't want a full co-joining of factions. It's part of what made the game great back from classic to MoP. And I think the two major factions against one another is what makes it still unique from other MMOs in the modern day. no 100% easy way to get anywhere and looming threat of the enemy faction attacking yo-... oh yeah they got rid of open world pvp.
Why would elfs join the alliance when the alliance tortured them. Same for the orcs, trolls, wait, same for everyone in fact. The alliance is the reason thoses factions are together. They have nothing in common, except hatred for the alliance that rejected them, stole their lands, and kill/tortured their people. No, when someone know the lore, it's pretty obvious that the horde population will never join the alliance, they are the ones who tortured them, why would they even think of joining them.
Something that is often overlooked is how Alliance sent purgesquads to finish off Vulpera, because.. some vulpera (not all caravans) were trading with the Horde. After a big social media pressure Blizzard retconned the purge squad NPC names to be less "purge" and more "incinerator" but many people IC or even OOCly are not aware of it, but Vulpera still see it as canon. Most that experienced such would never wish to join the alliance, likely. Why join with people that murder first before talking? They're just as bad as any other big foe.
I play wow since 2007, i never created an ally. All my chars are horde and i thought that was something different. Every exp i find players who do the same. Horde or die
I just want to go back to having a leader that is willing to go to war with the Alliance. THIS IS WARCRAFT NOT PEACECRAFT, GARROSH IS THE ONE TRUE WARCHIEF.
Damn Bro, I just wanna Zug Zug in peace, now I gotta worry about learning Human and the insane costs of a Stormwind Apartment.
@@Twin974 it is now
Don't be silly. You don't have to worry about the costs of a Stormwind apartment. We aren't allowed to live anywhere! Both the Alliance and the Horde force their adventurers to be homeless so they will just keep on moving, forced to fight whatever comes next.
you will pay you're taxes or join the defias brotherhood gang- i mean uhh... go into the deadmines.
Pst, its called "Common"
No need for an apartment. Just crash in the streets along the canals like all the night elves, gilneans, and now drakthyr are doing.
Sneakingdead is gonna be in for a big surprise when Zul'kaks wife Orasi hears about this...
just what i was thinking xD they ARE very similar in attitude tho, maybe they will team up xD
Alliance: "I'd like to visit Thunder Bluff"
Horde: *"KILL GNOMES"*
Of course the undead rogue is a murdering psychopath.
guess that undead is proof that some undead are more than a little crazy
Well, try being sane with a rotten brain.
I rped as a former alliance SI-7 Ranger who died to their squad when they jumped him because he was using a spell to make him look undead. Now he wants the world to burn and is a n'zoth cultist. He sacrifices the children of the alliance to bring n'zoth back sooner.
that undead was amazing
Am i the only one hoping that one day, while online, to meet this man doing an interview like this?
Id like to ask him why everyone hates Gnomes or sees them as a food source, "A Gnome is for life, Not just for lunch." "Vimmy"
@@loruth fecking wisdom right there
Why would I join with the ally every time I get into a group with them it’s all grandpas and grandmas
@@loruth I mean I could understand the rivalry between Goblins and Gnomes, other than that? When Vulpera launched, many Orc and Troll Rp-ers starting to use them as punt material instead of gnomes. Also "huhuh, tiny people be easy meat".
@@RayXVisiona Punting is a terrible thing, Somehow my Gnome avoids it IC but yes its kind of annoying when you get bullied because you picked the nerd/small race. Vulpera have a their own stigma attached to them that might lead to them being picked on.
“Burnt down the ancestral home of the Night Elves” ah yes, the ancestral home that’s been there since shortly after the events of Warcraft 3, very ancestral.
Sneakingdead was amazing, and I loved when you read the question every time must've gotten tiring especially with the multiple takes I bet you did! Great work Kakio :D
just an FYI the Tree was not the ancestral of the Night Elves it was created around the Third war (Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos) and was destroyed at start of BFA which means they only were there for 15 -20 years tops
Night Elves trying to argue with that be like "Well, that has to be like, ten generations to you humans, right?"
oh man, well that changes everything and I am now willing to look past it. *owen wilson wow sound*
that doesn't matter. all my stuff was in there. never forgive, never forget.
So, you wouldn't be pissed if someone burnt down your house and/or city that you lived in about 15-20 years?
@@seanoliver19 right? If my family and pets and all my belongings were in there when it burned then it doesn’t matter how long I lived there.
Truly a triumph of naturally occuring RP XD
Well that's some whiplash as far as compliments go. You're bald, but you've got good skincare.
As a Vulpera of the Horde, I would like to speak peacefully with the Alliance, so that I may ask the worgans of the Alliance where their tails are. They always look so sad when they see my kind's tails, and now same when they see the Draktheyr.
with all the changes to the barbershop, tis a crime this hasn't been added in for worgen players.
And yet again another amazing video. I love these awesome rp talks. I always tried to found ya Kakio in game but not much luck. Maybe I need to make a Horde side class in Argent Dawn (if you still in there). Anyways hope you have fun with these recordings. Sure I do enjoy all your work so far. Keep it up!
I'm still there, from time to time, lurking.... Both Alliance and Horde, so hope to see you around - and thank you so much for the kind words!
Can't believe you are cheating on Orasi! Smh.... D':
Oh wow that undead is just like Orasi.
Pretty sure sneakydead is secretly orasi who died and is now an undead
On the topic of learning Common, Forsaken (in lore, this was removed in gameplay for reasons relating to cross-faction chat abuse) can speak Common. I'm sure this would make it somewhat easier to mend relations in a meaningful way, if the Horde showcase that they are willing to learn the language of the people they want to make peace with by endorsing the education and learning of the language from the Forsaken first, and only then broaching the topic of potential long-term peace with the Alliance, in the Alliance's own language. Of course, this would be a two-way street and the Alliance would be encouraged to learn the primary language of the Horde in return, which is Orcish, as a sign of mutual respect.
in lore, wouldn't the forsaken be a mix of all different races brought back from the dead? and wouldn't they then speak all different languages anyway?
Orasi has a competition now
Sneakingdead is probably orasi or her long lost dead sister
That "It's like every time" got me so hard laughing! :D
SneakingDead is so precious i hope they find the luv they deserve some day
As an Alliance player, I would never accept the horde into out ranks and lands, for simple reason.
Goldshire is already horrible as it is. Imagine it with furris. Or goblins. Or worse, blood elfs. No thanks.
The only good non-human is a dead non-human...forever a Lord Garithos
did we forget that Zul'kak is a married man?
What happened to Orasi?
The alliance will meet their forsaken family and the horde gets access to draenai, good enough right?
no. give us dwarfes, take taurens
@@wedsonsoares3661 wtf man, give then the menstruation elves, fuck the elves
@@wedsonsoares3661 stop, too many furries in Alliance already, don’t add more
@@booll5571 why would the horde want the goat people? the goats are the reason the orcs are in the situation they are in anyway. the Draenai led the burning legion to their homeland and caused most of the damage to their society. The orcs were a peaceful shamanistic race up until that point.
Yay! My character appears! I'm so happy hope to catch ya again mon!! Lol
Haha who were you!?
@@Kakio the goblin that sorta spoke like a troll lol Wulu or Whulu
Any Alliance within 10 meters of me is a dead man walking.
It seems Zul'kak attracts all the crazy women, first it was Orasi and now this orfan burner.
As an alliance player, I like the idea of further getting rid of barriers to let friends be able to play with each other no matter their faction. However.......IF ITS RED, THEN ITS DEAD. FOR THE ALLIANCE
what if it's another color, like... yellow?
See I was with you, but I also dream of the day when we ( alliance) can win at least one battleground. Strategy over kill count would be nice....for once.
@@Tinyoak2 Ironically, I guess we're the Bloodthirsty ones in the end.
Judging by servers if it's blue it's dead lol
@@Preaplanes I play on Grobbulus where it's pretty neck and neck compared to other servers. But honestly to hell being on a server where your faction is vast majority because then pvp is far in-between. I remember getting bored on Horde a lot for this reason lol
Just buy the potion that let's you understand the other side. If your buddy on the opposite side has it, you can chat without being in a group.
Ancestral home of the Night Elves..
Teldrassil have been planted after the third war. No ancestry to be found there. just a giant bonfire which got set ablaze
Was a good place to make some s’mores
I NEED more Roleplay videos. I'm addicted
As a human hunter I always wanted to visit mulgore, the taurens are chill and they know about hunting, so yeah we should join forces at least for me, I am friendly neutral, by far the taurens are the best I think they dont really have a bloody past with the alliance (asides from Taurajo wich Baine already put an end to that situation) also Baine is a friend of our king and friendly with Jaina, Thunder bluff could be my new home.
#LetsBreakTheCycle 🤝
Damn..Zul'kak attracts rogues like no other.
Ancestral home of the night elves? Dude they moved in literally just before the start of WoW… and they built their city on top of a Military target that they knew the Legion was gunning for…
Heh. Way back when I bought and installed the WoW client (along with the subscription), it wasn't long after the beta (which I hadn't played) and I picked Forsaken for the Common language, expecting the main storyline to be doing ambassadorial duties in Alliance territory and helping block whatever outside forces and idiots wanted conflict to break out again. ...That tells you a lot about my subsequent experience. I stuck around for a few years afterwards, mostly because I enjoyed exploration and the low-level gameplay enough to keep making new characters. but the game kept moving in directions I wasn't enjoying.
I love Sneakingdead
*runs out of breath for every long response*
It kinda would be nice especially if we could do each other's quests. When I'm leveling some alts, going to the Alliance bfa zones is the fastest but the Hoard side is spread out way way WAY too much and I would rather run my Horde characters through the Alliance quests.
I don't need to watch the video to answer to this one. The answer is: No.
What won't people do for a little bit of Muddy Ale...
The trolls wouldn't because The Night Elves committed literal genocide on the Dark Trolls (who were their actual ancestors)
The Blood Elves (aka the High Elves) actually tried to rejoin the Alliance back at the beginning of TBC/end of Vanilla. But Tyrande thought it was a good idea to literally sabotage the arcane sanctums which were holding back the Scourge from completing the destruction of the already in shambles Quel'Thelas and surrounding areas. And the the rest of the Alliance were either helping Tyrande do it, or were just passively complicit. While Sylvannas offered actual support and physical aid since Quel'Thalas was her homeland and she was their former Ranger General.
Tyrande was all pissy and bitched about the Nightbourne (who were just night elves living in Surramar before the Sundering) hiding behind their shield, so after Elisande was defeated she basically gave them the finger and left ignoring Thalyssra's request for aid rebuilding and reconciling with the rest of the Night Elves. While the Blood Elves offered actual support and physical aid, while also truly understanding what the Nightbourne were going through after all the crap that went down surrounding the Sunwell.
The Void Elves were banished from the Blood Elves in the first place because they are a literal threat to the Sunwell just by coming near it (due to how it reacts in the presence of Void energy). So nope. I'm honestly surprised Tyrande hasn't thrown one of her usual hissy fits over the Void Elves in an attempt to sabotage that Alliance relationship.
So that pretty much eliminates any chances of the 4 elven groups reconciling into a singular faction one way or the other.
There's waaaaaaay too much history between the Draenei and the orcs. Between the Draenei rightfully not trusting the orcs, and the orcs not being happy that the Draenei were basically invaders to their homeworld that brought the Legin there to enslave them in the first place. Not a lot of wiggle room there. Add in that Y'rel is currently eliminating any remaining potential for co-existance between the Dreanai and Orcs with her fanatical Inquisition of the Light. So that's also a no go.
The goblins and the gnomes would probably be cool with joining forces for purely technological (and financial) gain purposes.Side note, when is Blizz goingto give us Gnomblins already? I'm looking at you Saffie and Grazz.
The dwarves in general likely wouldn't care one way or the other once the fighting stopped. The Dark Iron at least would be cool since they were already used to working with numerous members of various Horde races when they were still serving Rag.
The Tauren would likewise probably be perfectly ok working with anyone so long as they were chill and interested in protecting Azzeroth. Except for the Grimtotem, but they are just a tribe of douches and everyone hates them (rightly so). The only reason Magtha Grimtotem isn't the most strategically and politically idiotic character in Warcraft history is because Tyrande exists.
Wait, where the Dark Trolls not wiped out by the Twilight Hammer? Did I miss something from the lore?
@@Dezkoi well I mean.. between orcs, that belf king quelthalas or something? and the undead.. yeah uh, the horde does have a LOT of evil for the sake of evil. alliance has a bunch of bitches, and people who are blind asf and make stupid petty decisions, but like, the horde isn't some unspoken angel... i only feel sympathy for the tauren, the undead who don't do shitty things, and a lot of the belves who aren't blind either.
We forgetting about the horde invading Gilneas and Silvanas killing Greymane son so that leaves the Worgen out of the picture , also the horde blowing Theramore to smithereens and the recent burning of Teldrassil ofc.
Also you make the blood elves look like some kind of martyrs when they're a bunch of magic addict cunts who would do literally anything for their next fix that's why they like the Nightborne so much a crackhead knows another crackhead.
@@matrix255 Greymane's personal grudge against Sylvanas is understandable to a degree. But that only extends to the rest of the Worgens in that he is their King and not beyond that particular personal grudge. War is war and people die in war. The invasion of Gilneas is one of the many boneheaded things to happen under Garrosh. And don't forget the Horde had a literal Civil war about that and many other things which happened due to his choices.
As far as magical addiction goes. That's something ALL High Elves have to deal with and always did have to deal with, even before Azshara pulled her shenanigans with Sargeras to usher in the first invasion of the Legion. Even the handful of High Elves who decided to stick with the Alliance and all of the ones who are hanging in Dalaran. Also, are we forgetting that the Nightborne have been cured of that thanks to the fruit of the tree in the Arc'Andor, and are working to determine if it can also be used to cure all High Elves of their genetic magical addiction.
Either way, none of that justifies or explains Tyrande literally trying to set it up so that the Scourge succeeded in their attempts to take over all of Quel'Thelas out of her own petty idiotic spite. Especially when the rest of the Eastern Kingdom nations could barely handle the even smaller groups of Scourge plaguing their lands as is, and also had their hands full still dealing with the existing Plaguelands without actively setting it up so that an improved and more globally dangerous Plaguelands 2.0 would happen if the Scourge claimed a foothold as powerful as Quel'Thelas+Sunwell and bolstered it's ranks with the largest concentration of High Elven mages and warriors left on the planet.
Also, are we forgetting the racist human General who was sending the Blood Elves on suicide missions when they were members of the Alliance, because of his "If it ain't human, F it" beliefs. And when they were forced to work with naga just to not die on said suicide missions, had them executed in large numbers, just because. Because that's what initiated them leaving the Alliance in the first place.
And are you also forgetting that the thing that really solidified Quel'Thelas AND Gilneas fully leaving the Alliance was Stormwind signing off on and creating the concentration camps for orcs (and the other racial Kingdoms in the Alliance being ok with that).
If you think stating the actual historical canon of the Blood Elves (from WC2-3 AND from within WoW since the end of Vanilla/TBC) is someone trying to make them sound like martyrs, then that's entirely on your own warped perspective.
The point being made, was that there are some pretty massive goings on between most of the various races of both factions that makes unifying long-term/permanently into a single allied ideological political organization a never going to happen situation.
@@franji4998 The TH finished off the last of them (almost none by that point in Cata) that weren't in places that were rightfully shared homelands of both Dark Trolls and Night Elves.. But the vast bulk were killed by the NE's when they kicked everyone else out of Hyja and the surrounding regions of Kalimdor. Grommash took out one or two settlements in Ashenvale later. But the vast majority were killed at the hands of the NE's before and after the 3rd War. With Tyrande and Malfurion literally leading forces through NE lands specifically for the purpose of eradicating the Dark Troll settlements. The ones the Twightlight Hammer killed were just the last little bits left after the Night Elves systematically bumped off the other 90%.
man, my night elf demon hunter has words to say about this.
I just want to know when I make a zandalari troll why don't I get one of those blow gun thingys? The NPCs have them. I want one.
The only problem with undead is I only have but two kidneys to give to such exquisite beauty
This was pretty hillarious...thanks!
Christian Finnish Frostiis When i start i will play WOTLK and i am not planning leaving but planning to play on RP server with my BFF forver, i think the older feel of the game when the war between Alliance & Horde is more presented & still present. I want to play Horde, fight the good fight against Alliance. I once accidentally in my rage during vanilla WoW broke my screen with keyboard after Gnome warrior beat my Forsaken Warrior, war everlasting !
Half of the Horde are transferred Alliance players.
duuude thanks, have my upvote you adorable reporter
My dream is to run a 'adventure guild' type of thing with members from both the Alliance and the Horde co-existing and working together.
it would be nice to have an option.
can't you do that now with a battlenet community/discord and cross faction play?
Me, logging in to Moonguard on my identical tiny dracthyr. Confused as to why there's so many rats in their maze of a city. Then back to Wyrmrest where it's nice and asymmetrical
Sneakingdead has to stay around, best sidekick.
As an Alliance player and warmonger to the core... we need more fuel added to the fire. Peace will make the Horde and Alliance weak for when future threats come. Like a grindstone, this war between the horde and alliance keeps our blades sharp for when the real threats emerge. Let the conflict continue, let it get worse, let the wolves rise from amongst the sheep.. Totally not ripping off Apollyon's idea from For Honor... But... she does have a point lol.
need more interview, it's too funny !
ok wait this looks very fun.... what's the best horde rp server? I'm tryna giggle while i play
On EU there's basically just one RP realm, it's still dominantly Alliance, and Horde RP is lately very much hidden away among guilds that travel the world. Once per month there's an event at the Valley of Wisdom in orgrimmar, and if you're lucky some evenings you'll find more than 1-2 people RP-ing at the Wyvern's Tail tavern in the Valley of Honour), like it was depicted in this video!
To answer.. the server is Argent Dawn-EU
AD EU is GOAT
I love how everybody hate gnomes and vulpras in WoW.
I gotta say, that microphone model is triggering my trypophobia
Zulkak still has that rizz
based purely on the title as this is before I watch the video. Yes I would I have been wanting the ability to join either side on any race for years
Hord joining the Alliance? Nice... I get closer to the humans to assassinate them. Also... infinite supply of gnomes, dwarfs and other throwing weapons...
What server do you play Zulkaak on, Kakio? It seems so active on the horde side and i've been wanting to make a horde RP character.
This was Argent Dawn realm on EU. A RP server, fair warning it's activity fluctuates a lot, but more hordes are more than welcome!
Most horde RP on Argent Dawn is hidden away into Guilds that travel the world / Dragon Isles. Occasionally you can get lucky and find people hanging in Valley of Honour (the RP place) around the Wyvern's Tail (Tavern). Once per month there's some big community event in Orgrimmar that has been growing the past weeks, an effort of a few players to try to 'repair' horde RP.
That. Cause of that undead we all get a bad rep xD
Teldrassil is not the ancestral home of the night elves, that's Ashenvale; Teldrassil didnt even exist prior to World of Warcraft and is more or less an unsanctioned (unblessed) World Tree created by Fangdral Staghelm.
Hey, my old guild is in this video. #RIP Ironwolf Clan.
My fellow orc brother speaks for me, I hear kul tiran beer is quick rich with a lot of head but great taste.
Larry the penguin when?
The best thing blizzard has ever made was add nightborne to the horde. Now i can play as a "night elf" without joining the alliance
Role players are a special kind of weird lol
The good kind of weird, right ?
@@vukkulvar9769 i don't hate it.
what happened to Zulkak's blood elven gf?
I have played Wow up until Mist of Pandaria. With the Horde. I would never join the Alliance. When i was active, i had a deep hatred for the Alliance, especially gnomes. The sound they make when hit and dying was so satisfying. When i think about it, i hated every race from the Alliance. I did mostly pvp. Raided The Capitals many times.
I think we should make a 3rd faction and take away flying so we can go into the world and merk eachother again
or a merceneray mode where reputations with cities matter
this is the way
Eventually every race in WOW will probably be living in the same city considering the ideology of the people now in charge of world of Warcraft is one that must reflect the modern world
In my opinion, a lore reset is the only thing that can save this game going forward.
I only one thing to say, About F#^*ing TIME!
To answer your question: I was a horde player and i got forced into be once. I will make a fraktion swap at my main and two outher charas because i CAN and its feels right. So yeah Hordies join the alliance if they get forced into the horde and dont wants to be a horde at all.
I didn't think Teldrassil (the tree that burned) was the Night Elven ancestral home. I thought it was Nordrassil. The lore has become complicated so I am not sure about much of Azeroth anymore.
Next xpac should just be absolute carnage
To be honest I don't want a full co-joining of factions. It's part of what made the game great back from classic to MoP. And I think the two major factions against one another is what makes it still unique from other MMOs in the modern day. no 100% easy way to get anywhere and looming threat of the enemy faction attacking yo-... oh yeah they got rid of open world pvp.
Im as Horde as you can get. Will i ever join the alliance? HELL NO! FOR THE HORDE! When i die there will be a Horde banner on my coffin.
I'm Alliance since Vanilla. I'm cool if the Horde joins us. All we have to do is to kill every single Vulpera walking around.
Great content
Just a few minutes in and I wholeheartedly agree with everything spellwood says.
WHEN ARE YOU RECORDING FOR ALLIANCE I WANNA SAY MY PART
I am Argent Dawn too
Why would elfs join the alliance when the alliance tortured them.
Same for the orcs, trolls, wait, same for everyone in fact.
The alliance is the reason thoses factions are together. They have nothing in common, except hatred for the alliance that rejected them, stole their lands, and kill/tortured their people.
No, when someone know the lore, it's pretty obvious that the horde population will never join the alliance, they are the ones who tortured them, why would they even think of joining them.
Something that is often overlooked is how Alliance sent purgesquads to finish off Vulpera, because.. some vulpera (not all caravans) were trading with the Horde. After a big social media pressure Blizzard retconned the purge squad NPC names to be less "purge" and more "incinerator" but many people IC or even OOCly are not aware of it, but Vulpera still see it as canon. Most that experienced such would never wish to join the alliance, likely. Why join with people that murder first before talking? They're just as bad as any other big foe.
never! orcs are a superior race and one day we will rule all of Azeroth
and to succeed we need a strong leader like Garrosh Hellscream used to be
part 2 when
U know people irl in modern civilization actually willing make/drink literal mud water
I play wow since 2007, i never created an ally. All my chars are horde and i thought that was something different. Every exp i find players who do the same. Horde or die
I just want to go back to having a leader that is willing to go to war with the Alliance. THIS IS WARCRAFT NOT PEACECRAFT, GARROSH IS THE ONE TRUE WARCHIEF.
What server is this? I'm curious
Me, an undead rogue since vanilla: nein
bro what server is this on, fr this is mad interaction ive seen from the game, Kel thuzad aint got none of that experience.
Probably Argent Dawn EU
Alliance and Horde even still matters ? Lore sucks so hard that just put them together, It does not matter anymore.
Yeah just trying to play as a troll with a dwarf friend
What server is this?
Teldrassil isn't their ancestral home.
Great video🥰😍🤩
yes you just have to jebait them with better racials and they will follow like moths to the flame
Didn't Blizzard try that with mechagnomes but players dislike gnomes so much they rather skip on these racials anyway ?
@@vukkulvar9769 mechagnomes?
@@Narklas_unavailable Yes. Aren't their racials the most OP ?
@@vukkulvar9769 they have good racials but really bad transmog. diaperbaby ftl.
What realm is this?
Yes I made the switch on my server. Best decision
Pls , go to the Stormwind with a horde character