Is the Shir 2 Worth the Grind? War Thunder’s First Event of 2025

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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2025

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  • @sleepylab4761
    @sleepylab4761 9 дней назад +48

    As a British main, im excited for this tank. In my opinion, this shouldn't have been an event vehicle it would have been better as a tt filler vehicle. Also, this not getting thermals is not much of a deal breaker.

    • @bigcbear3785
      @bigcbear3785 9 дней назад

      Yeah

    • @Pt_Lacky
      @Pt_Lacky 9 дней назад +2

      Could have gone on the Vickers Line maybe?

    • @sleepylab4761
      @sleepylab4761 9 дней назад +6

      @Pt_Lacky right after the light tank would be a good spot or right after the chieftain mk10

    • @MrPuretideful
      @MrPuretideful 9 дней назад +3

      It's sad but we still have the chieftain 900/800 and FV4211 that can be added to MBT liner and also the Indian Arjuns can be added to the vickers line to bolster UK 9.0-10.0 line ups

    • @sleepylab4761
      @sleepylab4761 9 дней назад +1

      @MrPuretideful unfortunately I see at least one of them you mentioned as another event vehicle. Then, the snail will add one as a premium. Followed by the last one as a tt one.

  • @radustefan8945
    @radustefan8945 9 дней назад +42

    imo the 750k mission points for upgradable cupon should reflect a big percentage of the selling cost of this vehicle on the marketplace

    • @Thiccron
      @Thiccron 7 дней назад

      This is how most events are now

    • @TheKaMeLRo
      @TheKaMeLRo 5 дней назад

      I feel like the price will be lower than grinding all three winter event vehicles but would take just as much time to grind. (Air and Naval vehicle are very easy to get in shorter time if you play it in Air sim and Naval arcade)
      Each of the winter event vehicle will likely hit at least 30 GJN at some point, giving you a total of 90 GJN. Meanwhile, the Challenger will probably only go for around 40 GJN.

    • @Thiccron
      @Thiccron 5 дней назад

      @@TheKaMeLRo i’d be surprised if the shitty brit tank is that much for quite a while

    • @igorborracini5722
      @igorborracini5722 3 часа назад

      @@TheKaMeLRo Have to factor in the tax as well or wait till they're each at least $35 GJN to actually get a profit of 90

  • @LoafOfBread57
    @LoafOfBread57 9 дней назад +21

    If the armor is impenetrable by most things you will face, but 3bm42 can go through, then that means like 40-50 percent of the tanks you face can penetrate you (the turret).

    • @DawgIVLife
      @DawgIVLife  9 дней назад +9

      The thing that matters the most about the Challenger 1's turret is range beyond 500m it should stop almost everything it will see but at the same time L23 isn't the best long range round either.

    • @LoafOfBread57
      @LoafOfBread57 9 дней назад +3

      @ That reminds me, I’ve been using the 120s and was excited about the turret armor. Apparently dm33 and 3bm42 goes straight through the cheeks. It always shows the pen chance as yellow, but I have been non stop killed through the cheek, even had Leo 1 heat go straight through my left cheek…

  • @Dandroid_1
    @Dandroid_1 8 дней назад +5

    9.7 might be a problem as the UK doesn't really have a lineup there.
    They would be better off being moved up to around 10.0 and given better ammunition - it's gun is compatible with L26A1, so there's not really any reason for it's ammunition selection to be so restricted.
    The actual production model of Shir 2 was also intended to use the 117, not the 115.

    • @mistermister1890
      @mistermister1890 7 дней назад

      I mean granted the VFM5 is 9.3 and is still good even at 10.7. I don't think line ups is much of an issue. You got Rookiat MTTD, Rookiat 105. VFM5, and this. For planes you got Harrier for fighter, bucc s2 for CAS...
      The only issue is there is no AA at the BR

    • @rydersherm2490
      @rydersherm2490 5 дней назад

      @@mistermister1890 Not to mention the very nice olifant mk2 as a mbt backup with the vfm5/mttd

  • @csii6478
    @csii6478 9 дней назад +18

    So I took the Merk2D premium out for a view games and surprisingly got really good matchmaking so this at it 9.7 BR might be fun.

    • @scatmanpro
      @scatmanpro 9 дней назад

      Ahw man, why in the world is the merk2d 9.7... no armor, decent gun, no mobility... 😭

    • @csii6478
      @csii6478 9 дней назад

      @ good in the right hands had a 12 kill game 5 with the merk and 7 with the Ayit great combo

    • @scatmanpro
      @scatmanpro 9 дней назад

      @@csii6478 nice. I still dislike it tho, name one redeeming factor that makes it at least decent (it should be 9.3 or even 9.0 imo)

    • @whohashamburger855
      @whohashamburger855 9 дней назад

      Merk 2D is literally my best tank lol, that and the sabra mk1 is a perfect lineup for printing nukes​@@scatmanpro

    • @scatmanpro
      @scatmanpro 9 дней назад

      @@whohashamburger855 uhhh why tho, Im trying to understand cuz maybe Im playing it wrong

  • @oliverthebear3687
    @oliverthebear3687 2 дня назад +1

    Man, these 45K points are killing me and college spring semester is kicking in right now...time to grind the heck out of it while doing assignments LMHO, it only takes about 3 -4 hours of finishing the goshdarn 45K points for me.....

    • @paulfigueroa8502
      @paulfigueroa8502 День назад +1

      @ same here it takes me about the same time and this is my 2nd time actually grinding a event

    • @Lord_Khornez
      @Lord_Khornez День назад

      Personally I’d just do half the tasks then auto complete the rest with some golden eagles

  • @jessymeowlight5660
    @jessymeowlight5660 9 дней назад +10

    Chieftain, Challenger... Chiefger... _The Ginger_

  • @General_kenobi12
    @General_kenobi12 9 дней назад +7

    I spawned in my first nuke yesterday and as soon as i took off the game ended ive been playing 3 years and still no nuke. im so sad😢

    • @DawgIVLife
      @DawgIVLife  9 дней назад +10

      Yea I think it could be kinda cool if they would lower the ticket bleed while a nuke aircraft is in the air. If I have a airspawn nuke I drop them way more often like the B29 Tu4, soon as you get the takeoff nuke planes alot slower plus maps are normally larger.

    • @scottgilmour1128
      @scottgilmour1128 9 дней назад +1

      Skill issue

    • @sightstrikemaster
      @sightstrikemaster 9 дней назад

      Playing game for 3 years and bot having nuke???

  • @irGeorgeh
    @irGeorgeh 9 дней назад +6

    The biggest problem with 9.0 and above are the maps are way too small, so you cant even use the advantage of having good turrets for challenger 1 and 2, so no matter what they will always suffer... this shir 2 being at 9.7 will be good though, as you have the Olofant 2 which is really good having DM63 105mm and Gen 2 thermal gunner commander, also protection is ok.
    Having both rooikats 105mm can handle 9.7 and uptiers with the speed and firepower, its not a bad line up, with khalid aswell, the sad part i you just lack spaa with missiles as you only get that at 10.0 and above...

  • @gouverneur2001
    @gouverneur2001 6 дней назад

    My highest BRs are 7.7 Germany and 7.7 Israel so safe to say, I'm looking forward to grinding this tank and getting into the British tech tree. I also really love the profile and the camouflage. As opposed to the FUGLY Tiger tiger camo, this scaly snake camo actually fits. I feel like tanks most resemble reptilians, the same way helicopters resemble wasps/dragonflies and jet fighters resemble birds. I'm really interested to how the Shir will look like under the canopy of a jungle map. Seems scary.

  • @askaz971
    @askaz971 9 дней назад +2

    Its weird. Britain is my third nation Im grinding slowly, but surely (Im now at 5.3) and idk if I want to grind it or not. At one hand Im hyped for it, it looks clean af, but 9.7 is weird BR for it considering britain has no lineup for 9.7, this will be the only vechicle in this BR for Britain alongside premium Roikat 105, which is a premium as said. If it was 9.3 it would be awesome, because Britain has whole lineup there. I might grind it, but I will be wary of whenever I actually will or not.

  • @Elite_EM
    @Elite_EM 9 дней назад +2

    There is no way for anyone that's job isnt warthunder to get 750k points...

    • @johnwalker7592
      @johnwalker7592 6 дней назад

      The Chinese bots. That's all gaijin cares about anyway.

  • @diobrando2575
    @diobrando2575 8 дней назад

    While there isn't a good lineup to center around this, this would make a good second/third spawn for UK 10.3. Plus I think it looks nice and I'm a collector so I'm grinding this out.

  • @DarKK774
    @DarKK774 4 дня назад

    I'm going to grind it, because I'm with the Chieftain Mk 5 and I want something to speed up the grind to the Challenger Mk 2

  • @the-nm3xn
    @the-nm3xn 9 дней назад +8

    wish we got a french tank sometime

    • @Thiccron
      @Thiccron 7 дней назад +1

      Check the battle pass😂

    • @the-nm3xn
      @the-nm3xn 7 дней назад

      @Thiccron Last french tank in battlepass was two years ago

    • @Thiccron
      @Thiccron 7 дней назад

      @the-nm3xn check the new* battlepass smart guy

  • @Electronic-dq2xb
    @Electronic-dq2xb 9 дней назад +3

    well the new sabra for the israeli tree exists that thing should be able to front pen chelly 1

    • @DawgIVLife
      @DawgIVLife  9 дней назад +4

      Yea its kind of a weird step for 9.7 and 9.3 where most of these tanks don't have armor but really good firepower.

    • @rodneycook3674
      @rodneycook3674 9 дней назад +2

      Yeah but not a lot of people play Israel.

    • @Johnson217
      @Johnson217 9 дней назад +1

      Honestly tempted to grind Israel just for the Sabra. I love m60s

  • @heshh5297
    @heshh5297 6 дней назад +1

    the mark always was 45k ? :D or they incrased that aswell.

  • @ulfhedtyrsson
    @ulfhedtyrsson 9 дней назад +3

    Challengetain

  • @black_wolf1664
    @black_wolf1664 7 дней назад +1

    In the game the chally is one of the worst for a simple reason , they aint well done . There is 2 armor plate that aint in the game ... and they equals to more than a 100 mm ...

  • @Belgastos
    @Belgastos 9 дней назад

    For 9.7 it sounds stupid powerful. It's literally the chally mk.2 without barely useful gen 1 thermals and.. not the best round, but still an amazing round for a BR. For whole two BR steps down.
    Like, you wouldn't suffer in it in uptiers at all, but in downtiers it would simply dominate. 9.7 is extremely obscure BR for an MBT, there's lots of light tanks, but for MBT's there's three rn, and if we compare it to T-64B, which is very powerful vehicle for a BR, you get comparable armour (ehh technically T-64 is better frontally, but it has large mantlet weakspot, can't angle the turret unlike chally since it sides also have composite, and angled sideshot usually blows it's ammo), you get better mobility, an actual reverse gear, amazing reload. But worse round.

  • @gerilac86
    @gerilac86 9 дней назад +2

    As I never played this type of events before (just recently started playing the game), what I need to do to earn this tank?
    Is it a "premium" tank, does it bring additional SL and RP?
    Thanks!

    • @deltawolf1465
      @deltawolf1465 9 дней назад +2

      its not a premium and you just have to play rank 3 and above ground

    • @gerilac86
      @gerilac86 8 дней назад

      @@deltawolf1465 ah ok thank you! And doesn't matter which nation? Since i have tanks above rank 3 only for 2 nations.

    • @deltawolf1465
      @deltawolf1465 8 дней назад +2

      @@gerilac86 any nation will do

    • @gerilac86
      @gerilac86 8 дней назад

      @@deltawolf1465 thank you !

  • @astrogumbie2399
    @astrogumbie2399 9 дней назад

    Ill be working on grabbing it and slapping it in my line ups I'm a collector of the event items

  • @spyczech
    @spyczech 9 дней назад

    Challentain or chiefter I kind of like Chiefter hey guys it's the Chiefter here coming at ya with another video

  • @SquiddyKraken
    @SquiddyKraken 9 дней назад

    im already 12.0 with uk ground, this thing is 9.7 so no lineup and 750k is too much of a hassle for selling on the marketplace, so im skipping it

  • @Xsveq
    @Xsveq 9 дней назад +3

    Can you give us war thunder wiki link pls

    • @DawgIVLife
      @DawgIVLife  9 дней назад +5

      WT Wiki Links no longer exist for vehicles that aren't officially released gaijin removed that feature with the updated wiki. You have to mod in the vehicle with custom hangars.

  • @matalazenic2338
    @matalazenic2338 16 часов назад

    What is the diffrence if i have to grind 750k points for non-tradable cupon and same ammount of points for a upgrade that makes him tradable? Is there a exact ammount of points just to get a tank?

  • @Papiunstopie
    @Papiunstopie 8 дней назад

    so feeling lost here, are event vehicles only for pc players? i cant find the events that say anything about giving you a tank and if so war thunder is a hoe ass game

  • @Johnson217
    @Johnson217 9 дней назад

    I just don't like this is the same BR as the Sabra which has much better penetration AND thermals. Any thermals makes a big difference.

  • @MJA-0330
    @MJA-0330 9 дней назад +2

    Not sure why you're hating on the L23 when the Leopards at 10.7 use DM23

    • @DawgIVLife
      @DawgIVLife  9 дней назад +2

      Because the playstyles of both of those tanks are different. The Leopards can play super aggressive meaning that most of the time DM23 will be fine. FV4030 has to find good positions or hull down where just L23 will be lacking. specially since you will be engaging most targets from the front with FV4030.

    • @Rempai420
      @Rempai420 9 дней назад +3

      Or the M1 Abrams which uses m774 at 10.7. 410mm of flat pen will get through any tank at 8.7-10.7. Yeah it won’t pen the hull of a T80UD but what does? If you don’t shoot the LFP or drivers sight you’re not killing that thing with most tanks.
      More boring British hate. This tank is absolutely fine at 9.7 and has the ability to kill tanks and tank shots.

    • @MJA-0330
      @MJA-0330 9 дней назад

      @@DawgIVLife The L23 is fine for 9.7

    • @crazyadam9281
      @crazyadam9281 9 дней назад

      @@MJA-0330 I agree but like the DM23 it becomes a bit long in the tooth at 10.7.

    • @MJA-0330
      @MJA-0330 9 дней назад

      @@crazyadam9281 The 2A4s could use DM33 for sure at 10.7

  • @darkdexter6643
    @darkdexter6643 7 дней назад

    will this have a premium multiplier for rewards or will it just have the standard multipliers?

  • @patrickescoe
    @patrickescoe 9 дней назад

    looks like a meh tank IMMA get it just to have it

  • @Su33_Tonkhoot
    @Su33_Tonkhoot 9 дней назад

    Wait is the event live?

  • @InFamoose-WT
    @InFamoose-WT 7 дней назад

    how is l23 bad at 9.7 though its not bad at all

    • @DawgIVLife
      @DawgIVLife  7 дней назад +1

      Angle pen is pretty bad compared to rounds like DM33 for example DM33 from the 105mm can UFP T72As while L23 has to aim for drivers hatch or lower plate.

  • @woeknight852
    @woeknight852 7 дней назад

    It has no lineup

  • @aoli7313
    @aoli7313 9 дней назад

    45k XP, hmmmmmm

  • @xxxbg311
    @xxxbg311 8 дней назад

    It should be 9.3 max...

  • @snooze9738
    @snooze9738 5 дней назад

    It’s 9.7 and it carries a round that some mbts get at 10.7. Tf r u talking about the round is bad

    • @DawgIVLife
      @DawgIVLife  5 дней назад

      The Challenger Mk3 and the Challenger DS both carry L26 and also carry L23A1 which is not the same as L23..... L23 is not a 10.7 round

    • @snooze9738
      @snooze9738 5 дней назад

      @ The L23 does 410mm of penetration at best. The DM23 on the 10.7 Leopard 2A4 does 410 at best. The DM23 is considered to be a pretty decent round. So how can a round with better pen at distance than the dm23 be bad at a far lower tier? I just don’t understand what I’m missing here. Can I please have a true American Patriot fact check this.

    • @DawgIVLife
      @DawgIVLife  5 дней назад +1

      @@snooze9738 0 degree pen isn't what always matters Dm23 on its 30 and 60 degree pen has way more than L23 does. If you want to see this in action take the T72A in protection analysis and shoot the upper hull with L23 and DM23 L23 unless you hit the drivers port L23 will bounce DM23 will go right though pretty much no matter where you hit on the UFP.

    • @snooze9738
      @snooze9738 5 дней назад

      @ Thank you for the correction brother. My bad for being wrong. I’m gonna go turn on some sad music and play a few matches in the leo and boxer to cheer me up. #TrueAmericanPatriot

  • @bigcbear3785
    @bigcbear3785 9 дней назад

    Its not worth the time , why not play the challenger its only like a few br higher or just the chieftain?

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 9 дней назад +1

      Both are worse version of T-72, which is only at 9.3...yeah, british tree sucks.

    • @bigcbear3785
      @bigcbear3785 8 дней назад +1

      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 I actually had a decent time wirh it not to good but the British are ok

    • @Blue-bf8lv
      @Blue-bf8lv 6 дней назад +1

      you basically get another challenger for your 10.3 line up, its turret armor is very good

  • @MozzaBurger88
    @MozzaBurger88 8 дней назад

    L23 underpowered?
    It's got vastly more pen than the Abrams' M774 round at 10.7 (edit : and the Abrams' is a 105mm vs this 120)
    Are you high? 😂
    If people can't make 400+ pen APFSDS work, the issue isn't the round but behind the keyboard.

    • @Blue-bf8lv
      @Blue-bf8lv 6 дней назад

      400 flat pen but angled pen quickly drops off

    • @MozzaBurger88
      @MozzaBurger88 6 дней назад +1

      @@Blue-bf8lv Yeah not wrong, it's actually a bit worse than the M774 at 60 deg, I didn't realize it was that bad at sharp angles but still : one full BR lower it's perfectly serviceable. It has comparable pen to 3BM22 with a more mobile platform and better handling gun than comparable Soviet tanks (that may get 3BM42 as a balancing factor)
      I'm fine with that. Looks perfectly decent to me.

  • @fernandojohnsen7639
    @fernandojohnsen7639 9 дней назад

    Would the Armor more what the Armor actually is in reality yeah then the Tank would be a great tank that is able to work as a Tank and not like a I have to sit back 2000+ meters to fight enemys in a Hiding spot and hope not to get hit cause Gaijin litterly Deleted the Armor strengh the Challenger 1 and 2 Tanks actually have. I remember the Time when Chally 1 comes to the game with his 450mm Hull Protection and 600-650mm turret protection wich is actually the Exact Armor Values from this tank so the 3BM42 or the DM33 cannot Oenetrate the Hull because the Russians build the 3BM46 to Penetrate Western Armor like from the Abrams or the Challenger or Leo2 tanks cause the Early round wich Include 3BM11/3BM15 and so on up to the 3BM42 they suck. I mean the 3BM42 wasnt even capable of Penetration the Side Armor from the Chally 2 in the Iraq war. There are so much things they are just a reason for Balance in this game especially for the British top tanks like the Challys wich means Armor, Mobility and Penetration on Range. I mean its a Tank build to defeat the Heaviest Oenetrator and to snipe any tank like a Sniper put into a Bunker. That was the Idea and gaijin took everything elaway 😂👍🏽