Paganini vs Bach - round one

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Комментарии • 298

  • @lis819
    @lis819 2 года назад +924

    Everything is hard to play on the violin!

  • @marcuslaw6149
    @marcuslaw6149 Год назад +264

    What people think is hard on the violin: plays the easiest part of the piece

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  Год назад +51

      That is the whole point...

    • @tekii111
      @tekii111 Год назад +2

      woooosh

    • @D54375
      @D54375 Год назад +22

      ​@@SimonStreuffViolinEducation but your comparing the 2 pieces. In this case you played the easiest part of Paganini's caprice no. 24 but played the hardest part of Bach...

    • @TheUnderscore_
      @TheUnderscore_ Год назад +3

      @@D54375 He didn't say what pieces were hard, he's showing what parts were hard ffs

    • @richardsvarghese7157
      @richardsvarghese7157 Год назад +1

      Bach ❤

  • @krebi_patty2071
    @krebi_patty2071 2 года назад +207

    Me being a guitarist I respect violin players cause I tried to play one and i played “extinguish my big star” (twinkle twinkle little star)

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +26

      As a hobby guitarist I admire guitarists right hand. I never learned finger picking, just with plec

    • @krebi_patty2071
      @krebi_patty2071 2 года назад +8

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducation finger picking is a bit difficult but most people like violinists start with fingers (pizzicato and finger style)

    • @jeffreyspencer2995
      @jeffreyspencer2995 Год назад

      Lmao

  • @grisgriz85
    @grisgriz85 Год назад +26

    Paganini: That's not fair. You didn't even get to the variations.

  • @noneofyourbusiness197
    @noneofyourbusiness197 2 года назад +250

    Can we just agree everything is hard on the violin 😭

  • @chimaudoye7109
    @chimaudoye7109 2 года назад +161

    I just started learning the violin and everything is extremely difficult😫

    • @gabbyr2750
      @gabbyr2750 2 года назад +11

      You’ll get there! I started in 5th grade and I’m in 8th now. Next year I’ll be trying out for a youth orchestra.

    • @bo-banski2883
      @bo-banski2883 2 года назад +11

      it doesn’t get easier 🥰🥰

    • @hazyproduct1692
      @hazyproduct1692 2 года назад +1

      @@gabbyr2750 you can do it if you practice hars

    • @tomasitto299
      @tomasitto299 2 года назад +4

      Remember you can always switch to the viola :)

    • @hazyproduct1692
      @hazyproduct1692 2 года назад

      @@tomasitto299 you’ll regret it like me

  • @andreasugiyama1984
    @andreasugiyama1984 2 года назад +20

    One person can play double stops and
    The other person can play the single part of that piece

  • @amandas.6500
    @amandas.6500 Год назад

    They both sound great!

  • @luisp.quintero7309
    @luisp.quintero7309 Год назад +7

    What's the piece from Bach?

    • @hammtn
      @hammtn Год назад +1

      He's playing fuga from sonata no.2

  • @joshchacko7729
    @joshchacko7729 Год назад +2

    Thanks a lot for the info and example man!

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  Год назад +1

      Thank you for commenting :)

    • @joshchacko7729
      @joshchacko7729 Год назад

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducation your little snippet taught me a lot! Slow and steady wins the race my friend. Wishing you the best.

  • @Strxwberri2
    @Strxwberri2 2 года назад +24

    I've been playing for 6 years and paganini is my favorite

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +6

      Paganini is nice, but it get's boring to perfect it, because it takes so much time and is kind of repetetive. But playing it now and then is fun and experiencing progress with his techniques too :)

  • @Nyxiedoesstuffig
    @Nyxiedoesstuffig Год назад +1

    Der Erlkonig: Am I a joke to you?

  • @camelliasinensistea9410
    @camelliasinensistea9410 2 года назад +1

    It's the changing of the hand on the neck for string change

  • @someone...1722
    @someone...1722 Год назад +8

    What people think is hardto play on the violin: pagininiana caprice 24
    Whats ACTUALLY hard on the violin: the wood

  • @FelineFlame-dj1xl
    @FelineFlame-dj1xl 2 года назад +12

    Man cmon I just started learning caprice 24
    Don’t do me like that 😭😭😭

  • @LudwigvanBeethoven2
    @LudwigvanBeethoven2 2 года назад +5

    What is the name of the second piece? By the way your playing sounds heavenly

  • @JoaoHenrique-df6ho
    @JoaoHenrique-df6ho 2 года назад

    The king of harmony ✋🏽🤚🏽

  • @Kagara
    @Kagara 2 года назад +4

    It’s the end part that people think is hard of the first piece

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +3

      The middle too! The Bach Fugue also has harder parts than the beginning though

    • @Chimmykoya-
      @Chimmykoya- 7 месяцев назад

      It’s almost the whole piece that’s difficult 😂

  • @Flucianov
    @Flucianov Год назад

    I absolutely agree

  • @dodsatyr4061
    @dodsatyr4061 2 года назад

    The finale caprice is one of the hardest pieces ever created, yet you are playing the easy part of the song

  • @violinsandesu237
    @violinsandesu237 2 года назад +3

    The next prase was the challenging part. Also the bowing could de distribute differently of you want to make it really hard

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад

      In Bach the next phrase is beautiful, but not hard. The one after that is hard! In Paganini, of course the variations are work!

  • @hauthot287
    @hauthot287 Год назад

    They’re both pretty much equally hard, just in way different ways. Like, with virtuosic violin playing, u have flashy shit like Paganini and wieniawski, then u have more melodic and musical ways like the Bach sonatas and partitas

  • @petermekaev147
    @petermekaev147 11 месяцев назад

    I agree

  • @yeallow910
    @yeallow910 2 года назад +2

    He : play the easy part of the cap 24 :
    The other variations and finale :boi am sure they re not ready

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +1

      and?

    • @yeallow910
      @yeallow910 2 года назад +1

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducation no i write this as a joke dont take it serious

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +1

      @@yeallow910 No problem. It is just a generic comment under this video and I just find it funny at this point. No violinist has a bach fugue or a paganini caprice ready at all times, that should be clear..

    • @yeallow910
      @yeallow910 2 года назад +2

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducation Yes , I agree with you

  • @elisaandemma
    @elisaandemma Год назад

    2nd one def I play violin

  • @Zoom_1012
    @Zoom_1012 Год назад +2

    I imagine it's the double-stops on the Bach piece.

  • @newworld6422
    @newworld6422 Год назад +1

    I don't think anyone may think the first peace to be harder as the second 😆

  • @AcidSpitter783
    @AcidSpitter783 Год назад

    Try playing Bach and Paganini together and see if it is hard

  • @bvdmedia
    @bvdmedia Год назад +2

    Bach!!!!

  • @OsmnJackpot
    @OsmnJackpot 9 месяцев назад

    Try Baroque violins, the song is composed still by Paganini

  • @koopalovetoast2409
    @koopalovetoast2409 Год назад +1

    Actually sounds way harder than that easy part of pag 24

  • @bryan1234
    @bryan1234 9 месяцев назад

    Esta tan mecanizada tu mano 👏

  • @Brokensmilez
    @Brokensmilez Месяц назад

    Both are hard

  • @user-fr8wf5cu8y
    @user-fr8wf5cu8y Год назад

    Bro forgot about the pizzicato

  • @paxy5480
    @paxy5480 Год назад +1

    Can you play paganini caprice 5

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  Год назад

      I am pretty bad with fast things, I would have to practice it a LOT! Maybe some day I get the time for it, but there is so much more fulfilling music out there that I want to play...

  • @Wahatoyas
    @Wahatoyas Год назад +3

    Paganini is the better virtuoso, but bach is a whole new level for violin, bach said he paid for the whole violin hes going to use the whole violin

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  Год назад

      Absolutely! The music of Bach is more a testament to our musical language. Paganini is more a testament of what is possible with the instrument no matter what...

  • @np7133
    @np7133 Год назад +4

    I did not even know you can play chords on a violin… 😱

  • @julixxd5447
    @julixxd5447 Год назад

    What is actually hard on the violín: the other 146 compasses of the caprice 24

  • @troywest
    @troywest Год назад +3

    I can play most anything on the air violin … seriously though Bach is IMHO the most amazing composer who has ever lived

  • @harghama1235
    @harghama1235 2 года назад +21

    Yes man pag 24 easiest piece in the world man

    • @ares6186
      @ares6186 2 года назад +12

      this man said caprice 24 is easy and didn't even play any of the variations lmao

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +6

      I didn't say that I think it is easy, but that people think it is hard. Bach is often underestimated in sheer difficulty ;)

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +1

      @@ares6186 wouldn't make sense for this video, because some variations are hard af...

    • @faloof9388
      @faloof9388 10 месяцев назад

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducationSo you should have chosen a different piece XD

    • @Chimmykoya-
      @Chimmykoya- 7 месяцев назад

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducationWell Pag 24 is hard, the people are thinking correctly

  • @marouaneelkaltoumi9141
    @marouaneelkaltoumi9141 2 года назад +41

    U just played the easiest part in the caprice No 24 it s officially the hardest violin piece in the world

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +32

      First part of your comment is true. The second part isn't. The 24th caprice doesn't even compare to Ernst "Last rose of summer" for example. Even Paganini wrote more difficult pieces. Only the 24th is damn popular.

    • @xiaotaozhou8662
      @xiaotaozhou8662 Год назад +13

      Chaconne is harder.
      For me, it is extremely difficult to phrase it properly and the technique required is also high. Personally I consider it harder than Caprice N.24, which you only need the notes and not many emotions.

    • @karthikharish1564
      @karthikharish1564 Год назад +5

      THERE ARE SO MANY MORE HARDER PIECES THAN THE TWENTY FOURTH CAPRICE IN TERMS OF VIRTUOSITY...also ranking the hardest piece for the violin is like picking the best composer of all time, coz you have to look at different aspects like musicality, how important intonation is, the style of music, and even the virtuosity and how many techniques there are in this piece so yeah

    • @studiochannel5226
      @studiochannel5226 Год назад

      The 23 (labyrinth) is the hardest one !

    • @marasabiel2792
      @marasabiel2792 Год назад

      Bro, play The Last Rose of the Summer, then u can comment

  • @best_pilot15
    @best_pilot15 Год назад +1

    As a violinist Paganini is harder

  • @elliottmalfoy2515
    @elliottmalfoy2515 2 года назад +2

    What piece of Bach is it ?

    • @henry24002
      @henry24002 2 года назад +4

      Bach violin sonata 2
      2nd movement

  • @omertrnk5397
    @omertrnk5397 2 года назад +4

    Hey what's the name of that bach piece? Nice video by the way

  • @potaton1342
    @potaton1342 Год назад +2

    I mean later in Paganini it gets pretty dang crazy

  • @floridamansgarage8629
    @floridamansgarage8629 Год назад +5

    Bach will always be far more complex

  • @a3daa339
    @a3daa339 Год назад +1

    Play the variations of the caprice or pieces like “Nel cor più non mi sento”, oh wait, you can’t!!!!!

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  Год назад +1

      some variations are rather easy and I can play them "Nel cor piu non mi sento" noone can play without ever having to practice it. So wow, good analysis!

  • @Ember_Prime
    @Ember_Prime Год назад +2

    The notes sound in tune but the instrument sounds… dampened… was the microphone just not really picking up anything other than pure tone?

  • @julialopez4731
    @julialopez4731 2 года назад +3

    I started playing with Bach’s music on my first few months

    • @iboyzzz1576
      @iboyzzz1576 Год назад

      Yeah i played paganini concerto before buying a violin... No one believes you

    • @ozichi._.
      @ozichi._. 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@iboyzzz1576they might be talking about his easier pieces like minut in G.

    • @iboyzzz1576
      @iboyzzz1576 9 месяцев назад

      @@ozichi._. it takes at least one year if you want to play it well

  • @lajitbacs9475
    @lajitbacs9475 Год назад

    Play the 1 caprice if it is that easy

  • @zinxlifculezef8919
    @zinxlifculezef8919 Год назад

    I never met anyone who thinks the intro to paganini's 24th caprice is hard. Nice playing though.

  • @tristanlalonde3448
    @tristanlalonde3448 Год назад

    The hardest thing on the violin not playing with a shoulder rest

  • @justaweeb9086
    @justaweeb9086 Год назад +1

    Everything on violin is hard... especially most if not all of Paganini's Caprices because the whole point of a caprice is to show off the performer's skill.

  • @davianpena3706
    @davianpena3706 2 года назад +1

    For me as a member of the woodwind family it’s reversed how funny different instruments are

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад

      Obviously Paganini is not easy, but Bach is technically overlooked. Different technique though!

  • @LingLingWannaBeLah
    @LingLingWannaBeLah 2 года назад +2

    I'm also a violinist and I can say Paganini is very difficult, Capriccio 24 has some variations that are hard af, but Paganini actually composed harder pieces. Bach is from the Baroque period=polyphonic

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад

      Paganini is polyphonic too. Even in the 24th caprice there is a chord variation, but the rhythm and the polyphonic element is muchsimpler than in Bach's music for violin.

    • @jjjj-wk9gt
      @jjjj-wk9gt 2 года назад

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducation wait where in pag 24 is there polyphony

  • @lucastournier6085
    @lucastournier6085 Год назад

    Chiaconnaaaa is HARD (somes partes)

  • @IngusMalingus
    @IngusMalingus 2 года назад +2

    I can hear those two string chords on the second, so I see what you mean

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад

      many 3-4 string chords in that piece and also in succesion. Very hard!

    • @IngusMalingus
      @IngusMalingus 2 года назад

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducation 4 string chords on the violin? Sounds brutal

  • @drumclef3241
    @drumclef3241 2 года назад

    Intonation

  • @kinsu8480
    @kinsu8480 8 месяцев назад

    Paganini (especially the “happier” ones… EHEM God save the king EHEM) is more difficult technically… but for example, Bach’s Chaconne is just a monster to perform because of how difficult it is musically speaking (and it’s not technically easy either).

  • @secondhanddarviperau
    @secondhanddarviperau Год назад +1

    Did u play the whole piece

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  Год назад

      I didn't play it in a performance, but I practiced the whole thing on and off over the years. Some variations are just really hard to nail!

  • @sadisticsadist3419
    @sadisticsadist3419 2 года назад +1

    Your playing is so clean I can’t stop watching

  • @ishallrules
    @ishallrules Год назад +1

    What size did niccolo Paganini use?

  • @greybermatos6041
    @greybermatos6041 2 года назад +2

    👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @ellenfoster171
    @ellenfoster171 2 года назад +1

    What was the first piece?

    • @jp_1002
      @jp_1002 2 года назад +1

      Caprice 24

  • @mrmathh3680
    @mrmathh3680 Год назад +3

    When you realise that caprice 24 is not even the hardest caprice 💀💀💀

  • @ngl.youneedtostfu7374
    @ngl.youneedtostfu7374 Год назад

    Now play the staccato left hand pizz on paganini 24

  • @quangthanh6361
    @quangthanh6361 2 года назад

    What is the second piece name sir :3

  • @violaisreallycool
    @violaisreallycool Год назад +1

    Kinda unfair playing just the theme of the 24th caprice and then whipping out arguably the 3rd hardest movement in all of the sonatas and partitas, but brilliant playing on both excerpts!! Have you played the full fugue? I’d love to hear your interpretation.

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  Год назад +1

      Thank you and yes, you are right. I could have argued the other way around if I had taken a different place. I never played the fugue in total sadly. Always when I start learning it I get some other important things to play. It really needs time and dedication. But the a-minor fugue is very high on my bucket list!

  • @acm-gs6bl
    @acm-gs6bl 2 года назад +1

    you gotta play the whole caprice it gets infinitely harder

    • @justsomeguy6060
      @justsomeguy6060 2 года назад

      Facts, I started learning how to play runs on the violin I have almost 2yrs of violin experience. And guess what? Bach is what I've been learning in the beginning Paganini is what I'm heading towards

  • @MonaGlam10
    @MonaGlam10 2 года назад +2

    I can't never move my fingers eight on the cord

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад +2

      try to practice placing the left hand fingers before preparing the bow for the next chord. It helps a lot!

  • @Leo-poldo
    @Leo-poldo Год назад

    What's the name of the second melody?

    • @sirtron7259
      @sirtron7259 Год назад +1

      sorry for the late reply but its the fugue from bach's 2nd violin sonata

  • @pedrohenriqueamaral3157
    @pedrohenriqueamaral3157 Год назад +1

    Bach has a lot of chords. The fugal style is dinamically difficult as well

  • @andreivoicu8892
    @andreivoicu8892 Год назад +1

    Stupid question as a piano playing enjoyer:
    What do you mean Caprice 24 ain't that hard!?

  • @lanewang8387
    @lanewang8387 Год назад +1

    I might be wrong but i feel like the flexing parts are easier bc ppl are more likely get impressed and the fancy technique kinda cover up my mistakes. But the "easy" parts are actually hard bc my mistakes have nowhere to hide: wrong tone quality, wrong contact point, not enough connectedness, uneven up&down bow and unwanted accents, off intonation... ofc, not saying these are not important for a showoff piece but flaws like these don't stand out that much. Pagnini, Sarasate's are truly virtuosic but Bach has been my forever nightmare...

    • @lanewang8387
      @lanewang8387 Год назад +1

      don't get me wrong. Bach is great. Just so hard to play, endless details to practice

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  Год назад

      Absolutely correct what you say! Great comment. I only would argue that Bach also gives the player more back. And the endless possibilities to learn more about performing these works even make them more attractive to me rather than they annoy me. Bach can also be played very simple and raw. Maybe you could switch up your approach in that direction and as a result enjoy the music more. Keep it up!

    • @lanewang8387
      @lanewang8387 Год назад

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducation Thank you!!! Yes thats so true Bach's music lines really provide a lot of space. I enjoyed listening to my teacher broke down the music for me (yelling part not included) Would be my next level of practice in far future tho haha

  • @douglasbrunelli5653
    @douglasbrunelli5653 Год назад

    Name of the Bach song ?

  • @flowey1
    @flowey1 2 года назад +1

    Honestly I think I can confidently say that caprice 24 is harder than the fugue but still both are really hard

    • @SimonStreuffViolinEducation
      @SimonStreuffViolinEducation  2 года назад

      It depends really! The 24th caprice has elements like decimes and left hand pizz which are rarely used in regular life as a musician, so everyone finds that hard. But if you train that a couple of weeks, it becomes manageable. A good Bach Fugue is something I raraly hear, they are long and have many aspects to get wrong. Intonation, steady tempo, good sound and musical decisions.

    • @flowey1
      @flowey1 2 года назад +1

      @@SimonStreuffViolinEducation True! Honestly as i said theyre both really hard and from different aspects

  • @ThePuppetMaster429
    @ThePuppetMaster429 Год назад

    Paganini: Haha! Thats nice men! Now, what if you see my caprice No.23 and the campanella, it will make you move your fingers a bit :))
    Signed: Niccolò Paganini.

  • @nopurposeposting1548
    @nopurposeposting1548 2 года назад

    woah was it really 2 different notes played at the same time?

    • @justsomeguy6060
      @justsomeguy6060 2 года назад

      What he doesn't show is with paganini you play two notes while your other finger plays a third note or you play 3 notes while plucking a 4th or do everything simultaneously.

  • @raduserbansasa6504
    @raduserbansasa6504 Год назад +2

    Jeez, Bach is hard on any instrument my dear:)

  • @icicletheweavile3056
    @icicletheweavile3056 Год назад

    ok show me the caprice pizz

  • @M0RNINGSTVR
    @M0RNINGSTVR 2 года назад

    What was the first song?

  • @mahmoudtarek9921
    @mahmoudtarek9921 Год назад

    I have question
    Can anyone who is expert in violin
    Help?

  • @inasapie4661
    @inasapie4661 Год назад

    I can see it from his facial expression :))))))))

  • @francismora3223
    @francismora3223 2 года назад

    What is the second called?

  • @Sebabo482
    @Sebabo482 Год назад +1

    Paganini is much harder
    I played bach when I was 10 .

  • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven
    @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven 2 года назад +2

    Bach rules

  • @heidigold238
    @heidigold238 2 года назад

    Well yes it is both hard as violin is the hardest instrument in the world to play it’s more of a blessing from god when you get it right. The hard bit is just your challenge 😊🎻💖🎻

  • @AND________
    @AND________ Год назад +1

    перша частина краще

  • @BB-zk3qd
    @BB-zk3qd Год назад +2

    Dude your just playing the easiest part on caprice.24

  • @jakubmesaros2092
    @jakubmesaros2092 Год назад +1

    This looks terrifying as fehk

  • @kylehawk3103
    @kylehawk3103 2 года назад

    The Paganini. It’s only that variation. Visiting the other ones makes Bach seem “easy” tho nothing is completely easy

  • @derekthao74
    @derekthao74 2 года назад

    Both are difficult however you played possibly the easiest piece from Paganinis 24 caprices

  • @KadenThePenguin
    @KadenThePenguin Год назад

    ok but like, you can’t really compare the first few measures of the pag 24 to this piece.. it progressively gets more difficult. The whole point of a caprice is that it progressively gets ridiculously hard. Unfair comparison imo

  • @JeauJoe
    @JeauJoe 2 года назад

    1 variation is ease
    Play all 24 caprices

  • @eldetuspesadillas
    @eldetuspesadillas Год назад

    prueba el capricho 5 de paganini a ver si te parece facil

  • @user-fr8wf5cu8y
    @user-fr8wf5cu8y Год назад

    A

  • @superjumpbros64
    @superjumpbros64 7 месяцев назад

    Hm

  • @ekhlasalsadoon2279
    @ekhlasalsadoon2279 8 месяцев назад

    Touch the bottom botín

  • @archevmaipoyogao1529
    @archevmaipoyogao1529 Год назад +1

    So your saying pag 24 isnt hard?

  • @lunasolarlinglingwannabe
    @lunasolarlinglingwannabe Год назад

    Everything is hard on the violin