Yes, they proven absolute crap. I have found them out in the desert with their locking tabs snapped off and left to rot in the sun. It's a dirty filthy trick ProMag has played on the world, specifically making them look like the excellent Bulgarian Circle 10 hybrid "waffle" mags. I spent dearly on my Bulgarian waffle mags and have never regretted it.
You can't beat the arsenal waffle mags those and the bakelites and plum mags are all I try and stick to they just run and never break yea they cost more but worth every single penny in my oppinion and honestly the new k-usa polymer steel lugged with steel feed lips I picked of 5 of them and they have been really durable and reliable so far and they get thrown on the ground alot during mag changes havnt had one fail yet but bakelites and arsenal waffles for 762 and plum mags for 545s just run great
When you throw them on the floor or step on them, the metal mags can bend though. Then the follower gets stuck. I had it happen, and had to take it apart and put some pliers in there to expand them back. Also they're heavy. But apart from that, they're super reliable, indestructible and cheap.
I bought 2 bout 4 years ago while training they cracked from just throwing them on the ground from mag changes I mainly run arsenal waffle mags and bakelites and run plum mags and bakelites in my 545s and only arsenal waffle mags in my 556 aks I've just noticed arsenal waffle mags plum mags and bakelites just are very reliable and highly durable and I've had very good luck so far with the k-usa polymer mags that are steel lugged and steel feedlips and they k-usa mags are only 25 bucks
I have a Zastava m70 and every steel mag I have bought doesn't feed well unless I hold the magazine tight. PMAG and polymer mags made in Serbia work great though. I wonder if that's by design so you buy more of their mags.
I actually feel pity that younger folk, or folk that didn't live in driving distance to SG😉, missed the Sportsman's Guide Mag Lotto from 06 - 08. Cosmo covered 10 packs of "Game Used" mixed AK mags for $19.99. Only one I didn't get in a dozen packs was a Fleur, otherwise just about everything else. Personally, I prefer the ChiCom Flatbacks. ORF in 2005 was another gold mine. AK74 mags for under $2 used and 4 packs of new for $20. That post deployment $$ really went far during that period😉🤫
@@alu.304 That's crazy! I remember seeing a pic somewhere of a walk-in closet some guy had stacked floor to ceiling with spam cans. If only we knew what we know today... I still have an unopened can and about 500 loose rounds.
Chinese flat back steel mags the best and last forever. However, here in Florida they about $ 50.00 at gun shows. Xtech plastic mags excellent too and a bit wider for those Mag grip guys, like me. Lol....BTW Jim Fuller is the best !!!!
Tech is local to me, I can get them from the factory!! I like the new Elite Mags, they are very nice!! I haven't seen Chinese Steel mags in a long time!!
Flatbacks are like bakelites in that regard - once they were plentiful and nobody knew what they even were. Now the supply has dried up and a lot of people know how good they are.
I really like PSA's hybrid mags. Polyomer, but with metal mating surfaces. Being polymer its lighter than the steel mags by a good degree, which goes a long way for carrying multi mags on kit, and on lowering the overall gun weight. They also come in odg which gets me happy (though atleast they did in the past, not sure anymore).
@@InvidiousIgnoramus Every 47 I've received in the last year have shipped with PMags, I'm speaking from MY experience!! I'm about to order another 74 here soon, I will let you know what comes with it!
@@yrsued The 74 is a GF3 series model, it's going to be a PMAG. Generally GF5 models come with the Soviet Arms branded mags, although the AK-101 line (which is also GF3) is starting to see some models ship with the new Soviet Arms 5.56 mags as opposed to AC Unity mags.
Yes, they proven absolute crap. I have found them out in the desert with their locking tabs snapped off and left to rot in the sun. It's a dirty filthy trick ProMag has played on the world, specifically making them look like the excellent Bulgarian Circle 10 hybrid "waffle" mags. I spent dearly on my Bulgarian waffle mags and have never regretted it.
They are not horrible, but they are not the best. There are much better mags out there and sometimes, cheaper!!
You can't beat the arsenal waffle mags those and the bakelites and plum mags are all I try and stick to they just run and never break yea they cost more but worth every single penny in my oppinion and honestly the new k-usa polymer steel lugged with steel feed lips I picked of 5 of them and they have been really durable and reliable so far and they get thrown on the ground alot during mag changes havnt had one fail yet but bakelites and arsenal waffles for 762 and plum mags for 545s just run great
@@timothycain4512 Good to know
chinese flatbacks are one of my favorites too these things are built like tanks
I knew it! I had a gut feeling the metal mags were just better and more reliable. It what I prefer, now I have more confirmation.👍
NOt all plastic mags are crap, just some are worse than others!!
When you throw them on the floor or step on them, the metal mags can bend though. Then the follower gets stuck. I had it happen, and had to take it apart and put some pliers in there to expand them back. Also they're heavy. But apart from that, they're super reliable, indestructible and cheap.
I bought 2 bout 4 years ago while training they cracked from just throwing them on the ground from mag changes I mainly run arsenal waffle mags and bakelites and run plum mags and bakelites in my 545s and only arsenal waffle mags in my 556 aks I've just noticed arsenal waffle mags plum mags and bakelites just are very reliable and highly durable and I've had very good luck so far with the k-usa polymer mags that are steel lugged and steel feedlips and they k-usa mags are only 25 bucks
Jim knows......
Yes he does!!
@@yrsued Blessings in 2023.
@@tmaddrummer Same to you and your family!!
Anybody who has used a Pro-Mag knows.
I have a Zastava m70 and every steel mag I have bought doesn't feed well unless I hold the magazine tight. PMAG and polymer mags made in Serbia work great though. I wonder if that's by design so you buy more of their mags.
You should buy the mags that work on your gun.
I actually feel pity that younger folk, or folk that didn't live in driving distance to SG😉, missed the Sportsman's Guide Mag Lotto from 06 - 08. Cosmo covered 10 packs of "Game Used" mixed AK mags for $19.99. Only one I didn't get in a dozen packs was a Fleur, otherwise just about everything else. Personally, I prefer the ChiCom Flatbacks. ORF in 2005 was another gold mine. AK74 mags for under $2 used and 4 packs of new for $20. That post deployment $$ really went far during that period😉🤫
I was around, but I didn't take advantage of that sale, I should have, it was amazing!!
Remember when you could get 1080 rounds of 7n6 for like $120 😆
@@spacecityryder dude, the stuff was under $60 for a spam can of 1080 from Fleet Farm until about 2012. I imagine it was cheaper at other sellers.
@@alu.304
That's crazy! I remember seeing a pic somewhere of a walk-in closet some guy had stacked floor to ceiling with spam cans. If only we knew what we know today... I still have an unopened can and about 500 loose rounds.
Chinese flatbacks are awesome - imo the best metal AK mags on the market.
Thanks Guys
Our pleasure!!
Back in the day 4-5 dollars was equal to 12 -14 dollars today, you have to think minimum wage was 4.25 an hour In the 90’s.
In 1981, I was making $1.85 at the Work Study Program at my University, I felt I was swimming in cash!!
Gunmag warehouse has an awesome sale on mags right now in christmas 2022
Really?? Need to go look
@@yrsued gunmag warehouse for ak mags and palmetto state armory for gen magpul p mags.
@@HB-kp6rl I'm good with X-Tech and Magpul, I need me some other Good Metal and Military mags
Croatian metal mags; they have bolt hold open which helps. Zastava has catch hold open, can’t beat it.
I wish I had more quality Metal Mags!!
Beware the Croatians. These and the Asian mags are the ONLY steel mags I have had problems with
@@brandonschwietzer8757 I haven't had Metal Mags in years
@@yrsued Bulgarian Steel mags. Or the Bulgarian Steel reinforced Polymer mags are my Go to
@@brandonschwietzer8757 I wish I had some, I need to go find me some!!
Chinese flat back steel mags the best and last forever. However, here in Florida they about $ 50.00 at gun shows. Xtech plastic mags excellent too and a bit wider for those Mag grip guys, like me. Lol....BTW Jim Fuller is the best !!!!
Tech is local to me, I can get them from the factory!! I like the new Elite Mags, they are very nice!! I haven't seen Chinese Steel mags in a long time!!
Flatbacks are like bakelites in that regard - once they were plentiful and nobody knew what they even were. Now the supply has dried up and a lot of people know how good they are.
Even more rare is the Chinese Flatback with a chrome follower@@mananaVesta
i remember buying surplus mint condition flatbacks for under $10 and i love them
I really like PSA's hybrid mags. Polyomer, but with metal mating surfaces. Being polymer its lighter than the steel mags by a good degree, which goes a long way for carrying multi mags on kit, and on lowering the overall gun weight. They also come in odg which gets me happy (though atleast they did in the past, not sure anymore).
They used to ship their PSAK's with them, now they ship with Magpul!
@@yrsued Depends on the model, actually.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus Every 47 I've received in the last year have shipped with PMags, I'm speaking from MY experience!! I'm about to order another 74 here soon, I will let you know what comes with it!
@@yrsued The 74 is a GF3 series model, it's going to be a PMAG. Generally GF5 models come with the Soviet Arms branded mags, although the AK-101 line (which is also GF3) is starting to see some models ship with the new Soviet Arms 5.56 mags as opposed to AC Unity mags.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus I know the 101's do, never purchased a GF5
Please Remember Our Magazines Are Garbage
I have yet to see any domestic Magazine to be garbage, they all work fine. Chinese steel mags OTOH, I've seen so many bad ones out there.
The maytag repairman never worked, it was his whole thing. So metal mags never work?
You got it backwards!! GOOD metal Mags never break!! I think Jim stressed that.
@@yrsued he made the comparison, im just saying it's a bad one. Because the character never worked.
@@PhuVet You don't get the reference then....
Let me save you 8 minutes. They're bad magazines. Don't waste your money.
Did you watch the Video?? We spoke about several Magazines..
Seems a waste to have Jim as a guest for a Pro Mag review.
It's NEVER a waste to hear Jim give his opinions on ANYTHING!! It's always a good time!!