Indeed. No easy thing to be loved by a king or emperor either e.g. the legend of concubine zhen huan who was so loved by emperor yong zheng of the qing (manchu) dynasty of china. Many plot to discredit,harm or kill her too.
Lord Robert was the great love of her life. But she remained true to England, and as stated, she became the Virgin Queen and put herself last when it came to being devoted to something. She was a true ruler.
I mean, if my father had two of his wives executed, only one of whom actually committed adultery, I would probably be a little fucked up about marriage too.
ladyofmyheart Elizabeth did not want to share her power with any man, because she was having a tough enough time ruling as a female. She often referred to herself as a prince to her people. This was to reassure them that she was strong enough to lead England without a husband and alone. She felt she was married to England and its people. I feel she feared childbirth because so many women died.
Here is the historical problem is that as an unmarried Queen with no children the duty falls plainly on the people. If her focus on that wavers then she would be successfully assassinated and new rulers would take the throne. I will not discuss the prospect or the hubris of referring to her as the 'Virgin Queen.' It ranks up there with ''Honest Abe.' The criticism about their titles does in no way reduce my respect and admiration for there accomplishments. History honors them both and they more than earned it.
subway07 WHAT DID SHE SAY? LET IT ALL BE DONE, SPEAKING OF EXECUTING ALL TRAITORS, WHAT I LOVE IS THE MOVIE PORTRAYAL IS SHE TRIED HER BEST NOT TO GET VIOLET KNOWING THIS WAS AGAINST WHAT SHE BELIEVED IN BUT AS ADVISED UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE CAN TRAITORS HAVE A PLACE IN HER PALACE
Cate Blanchett is super fantastic I'm hoping she comes back as our queen Elizabeth tudor for the trilogy after first one 1998 and second 2007 and the third one should happen for sure
After reading more into Dudley, the fact that this movie depicted him as a traitor to Elizabeth really upsets me. He was always loyal to Elizabeth and would never conspire against her. That was really the only thing I didn't like about this movie. Aside from that, I absolutely loved this film. Cate was amazing!
I agree. It's frustrating how the screenplay completely twists history around. They wanted to make the story more powerful but instead it made it all much weaker than an authentic portrait would have been. Elizabeth's actual life was exciting enough for a great film.
The next movie shortchanged Robert even more since he wasn't in the film at all. Yet he was at her side through the lead up to the arrival of the Spanish Armada and he led her land troops in case the Spanish army invaded England. He was at Tilbury, again by her side, when she came to rally the troops and was with her during the initial celebrations of victory in London. Unfortunately, he died shortly thereafter and her chief ministers had to break down the doors to her private chambers after she locked herself inside for several days to mourn. Look it up if you don't believe me.
I agree! I am fairly sure he was the ONLY one, besides perhaps Sir William Cecil and of course, the ever loyal Sir Francis Walsingham, but they were politicians, who never betrayed her. He was truly her only real friend.
You know I also did not think Dudley's portrayal was accurate. From what I have read Elizabeth saw to his care even as he was dying. Bit with this blemish aside this movie is superb. Cate Blanchett should have won the Oscar that year.
*It is said that she never threw away the love letters he wrote to her. And many years after his death, when on her own death bed, just before she passed away, she whispered, "Oh, Robert" , with her last breath.*
So much nonsense here! This movie is enjoyable but historically so inaccurate that it's almost fiction. There's no historic evidence that she said his name on her "death bed". In fact, she even refused to lay down and stood for hours in her chamber before she collapsed dead.
"He shall be kept alive, to always remind me of how close I came to danger". That line and delivery always gives me chills! Superb acting Cate Blanchett ❤️
It’s gross and unnecessary. I think it’s history “dumbed down” for a modern audience. Elizabeth never married Robert (or anyone else) for political reasons. They were lifelong friends and emotional lovers (and perhaps sexual lovers as well but unknown.). They remained constant companions throughout their lives although Dudley married twice. Filmmakers probably feared the accurate history would make Elizabeth appear less powerful. The film makes her look like a strong woman who dumped her traitorous boyfriend. More relatable to the masses.
@@astoriacub There is no evidence that she never saw him alone after his betrayel. First of all because it NEVER HAPPENED. Second, we know they were very close to each other and spent (with breaks) much time together until his death - and not a single historic source ever said that she refused to see him alone. Don't believe what movies tell you.
I agree that Gwyneth didn't deserve it but to me Cate's acting is too theatrical and put-on in "Elzabeth". She was much better in "Elizabeth - the golden empire". Fernanda Montenegro should have won for "Central Station" in 1999.
They did their love/friendship such a dishonor. He never betrayed her and remained loyal for his life, and she loved him though they did not get to be together.
regardless of how incorrect this is as far as historical accuracy goes, I adore how she let him live and weaponized his depression and guilt against him. That's peak psychological brilliance. Love it
Robert Dudley NEVER betrayed Elizabeth. Perhaps he was of questionable character in other areas but he remained loyal to his sovereign to his death. I hate when they fictionalize history for the sake of melodrama.
I believe that Dudley loved Elizabeth as a woman above being loyal to her as his queen. He stayed loyal to her all his life and it was even speculated that Dudley murdered his wife to be with Elizabeth but that was never proven.
Same. I get when they have to combine two people for the sake of moving the story when they're minor players (the Tudors with Henry's sisters), or embellish something for the sake of a pretty, dramatic picture (Elizabeth's horseback speech..it IS a movie after all and that was lovely and dramatic). But changing the entire roll of someone in her life like Dudley to a completely different motive and outcome was just unnecessary. It would have been just as easy to work with what actually happened, and done well, would have been more interesting and had a great potential for more beauty and drama.
Blanchett is perfect. As it modulates the voice, the posture of the body, and from 1:19 to 1:42 it does not blink. It transmits a lot with the expression of its eyes.
The soft, yet strong nature of her deliverance, the music, the costume choice, she's portrayed here as a saint, sublime in her victory, and merciful, yet damning retribution.
'It would corrupt the soul of any man' That line is heartbreaking 💘 Even though this part of the movie is not historically accurate at all, honestly, it's one of the most beautifully played out scenes. It perfectly captures the love of two people who could never be together. Cate Blanchett is an outstanding actress.
After later reading about the real Robert Dudley, I did not like how he was portrayed in this film. Sure… he was a man whore and already had a wife during his romantic romp with Elizabeth but so were a lot of other men. Furthermore, he and Elizabeth still loved each other deeply until the day he died and even after that Elizabeth mourned him constantly. Dudley also became one of her closest and most trusted advisors/confidants and served her loyally until his death. Of course, the film makes it seem as if she just chose to cast him aside and completely blot him from existence or something. Big surprise huh? That's Hollywood for you!
Hollywood indeed. It was directed by an Indian, produced by three Englishman, written by an Englishman and starred mainly British and Australian actors. Dont blame Hollyweird for the films shortcomings.
"Hollywood" it may be: it does portray Elizabeth's real feelings of how love is a dangerous thing especially to a queen whose historical role is the Heir Maker and a Path to Power. It destroyed her mother and her stepmother(s) and with Dudley, real as it was, could never be what they would want it to be because she'd never be safe. That much of least is fact as it can be.
I dunno once trust is broken truth emerges. Truth he lied. If roles were reversed would he have felt just? Sure love was true. Hers. But turned something beautiful into a vile 7 headed beast.
I think it's awful. I cringed through the whole scene because its SO inaccurate and I refused to watch the sequel because I knew that plot couldn't have Robert in it and he was crucial to Elizabeth's plans to confront the Spanish.
Robert really wanted to marry Elizabeth, but never did anything against her that could be called treasonous or subversive. This is grossly inaccurate, sadly so. The reality of it all was more than interesting enough for any movie. Why alter the facts?
tm502010 Yeah...he is known as Elizabeth's favorite. He was loyal to her throughout his life. He even led battles for England in his later years. He got sick and died when he was 56 years old. She kept his letter and wrote that it was his last letter and kept in a box. She locked herself in her apartment for 3 days until men broke the door down.
+tm502010 I always find it disappointing after watching a brilliant film only to learn that the story is altered from its inspiration beyond reckognition. I don't know what really happened with Elizabeth, but I am disappointed that what happened in the film isn't accurate...
The real relationship between Elizabeth and Robert is so bittersweet, dramatic, compelling, and, to a degree, star-crossed that there is absolutely NO REASON to make this stuff up and besmirch Robert's love for and loyalty to Elizabeth. I liked both actors' portrayals of their respective characters, but I will not watch it again because of how the film presents Robert. I also refuse to watch the sequel where Dudley (the Earl of Leicester) is ignored completely when he was such an integral part of the preparations for the Armada, and just before his death, he and Elizabeth drew even closer. A very heartbreaking end to their long years together.
When it's time to stand up for yourself and you realize though it is painful you have to let go of people who hurt you and go out of their way to destroy you because they are unhappy this is so beautiful and the music Queen Elizabeth rocks !!!!! And yes this is so captivating and this scene alone deserved an Oscar
I findcit maddening that this film makes Robert Dudley out to be a traitor to Elizabeth. They were bonded for 50 years to one degree or another. It's an insult to his reputation and their love for one another that lasted until he died.
would like to see the scene where Walsingham says "All men need something greater than themselves to look up to and worship. They must be able to touch the divine here on earth."
Idk why people still give the oscars credit She wasn’t robbed, the oscar is a fraud, nominations are bought She gave an amazing performance and we reward her for that She doesn’t need any stupid statuette
Well, she still won 2 Oscars so if they don't matter at all then the 2 she has don't matter either. Yes, some of the nominations *are* bought. Harvey Weinstein was the sole reason Gwyneth Paltrow won at all. The man had some serious pulling power and it's good it's all coming out now following the wake of his sexual abuse of countless of actresses. And you only talk about the Oscars as if that is the ONLY acting award. There are several others like the Golden Globe, BAFTA, AFI and many others which don't get as much media coverage but which are *far more honest and serious* institutes than the Academy. Cate Blanchett has 155 wins(!) in all forms of acting awards. Never mind the 2 Oscars. Idk know why the likes of you keep talking as if you know *anything* . Oscars this and Oscars that. Far more proper acting awards are out there and here you cry about the Oscars being bought. Not even that is an absolute truth. Some genuine thespians definitely still get nominated - most of which the idiots out there don't even know by name.
She did know for almost her entire life. They became friends when they were both children, and despite some ups and downs, they stayed close friends, maybe more, until he died when he was about 56 and she was 55. Pretty good relationship given the vagaries of the times and political and religious intrigues and conflicts.
Bullshit!!! They were in love until he died!! At least she was in love with him until he died. I believe he loved her too, but fell in love with his second wife as well.
He had a wife when he went behind Elizabeth then he married a second after his first wife died or their marriage was annulled basically he was a Womanizer
The Dudleys had a reputation. Robert's grandfather was an unpopular tax collector, while his father tried to exclude Mary and Elizabeth from the throne. Now we have another Dudley trying to marry the queen. It just didn't look good.
It didn't look good, but they were childhood friends and I believe he truly loved her. He sold part of his lands to help her when Mary was queen and Elizabeth's position seemed very, very unsure.
average everyday people yes they knew each other as children and he was still in tower in “ limbo” when Mary I put Elizabeth was brought so for the two months Elizabeth was there they obviously reconnected and they bonded even more
to always remind me of how CLOSE I came to danger.. just broke me to tears, this is just sad, pure agony, lost of hope and faith she delivers it perfectly.
As a history boff and student I used to hate these kinds of artistic liberties, but have grown not to care as long as the film is brilliant like this one :)
When you believed once that the guy you hooked up sincerely likes you and will stay with you. "He shall be kept alive to always remind me of how closer I came to danger."
Even if I really like this movie, the real facts were much more interesting and dramatic, especially Leicester's death and Elizabeth's reaction about it
Prince Philip requested that this be played in the courtyard at Windsor for his funeral and it was this morning. This scene in the movie is one of the best. Her dress is outstanding and when she tells him she is going to keep him alive and that tear runs down his face, the facial expression she has before she turns her back on him and leaves, is priceless! Between the both of them, that's what I call acting!
In the scene where she just let out the words "Play a volta!' I felt like immediately obeying the command myself. 😂😂😂 Such brilliant performance by Blanchette.
Amazing acting! The writing superb! The music - love! The look of disdain purely regal! He was so weak in comparison to her. Even though this was not historically accurate, I do not care, still sublime!
It’s so cool cuz when he says “Being loved by the queen can corrupt any man” and her face changes. In a way she realizes now she will never be able to rule with a husband or lover or anyone who is that close to her and who can use the power she holds against her or her wishes. But also in my mind it also empowers her because it implies that any man can be corrupted by the queens power. But the queen is not a man, so she won’t be as easily corruptible as long as she is able to remove the parts of her that were already corrupted by men; so she becomes a virgin. And then what was thought of to be her greatest weakness (her womanhood) actually became her biggest strength.
While I love this movie, I know of the lies of it as well. Her sister Mary executed 208 threats, while Elizabeth, the "Golden Age" Queen executed over 600 Catholics with no reason behind it. However, back to point. Great, absolutely wonderful acting by Joseph Fiennes in his role as Robert.
Most likely because Queen Mary was not in so much danger as Queen Elizabeth was. Queen Mary didn't have the powerful Catholic Church, and catholic countries, against her.
Are you quite SURE about that? Queen Mary was MORE in danger than Elizabeth ever was. But alas, England is left with a cafeteria religion born of infidelity, Lutheranism, and murder.
The difference is in why and when and how. Elizabeth reigned for 40 years, Mary I for 5. Elizabeth executed for Treason only a tiny handful for heresy whereas Mary wanted to burn them to death to convince prods to convert. Elizabeth was ok with you being Catholic if you were loyal. The ones Elizabeth executed were also mostly after the Pope sent out an edict ordering Catholics to murder and overthrow her which put her in far more danger. In the 1500s people believed the Pope was really speaking for God in the way they don't today. So when the pope says killing this person is no murder they took it very seriously. Mary I was more solid on her throne. She had the might of Spain protecting her, there was no 3/4 Protestant powers to compare to the Catholic powers of France, Germany, Italy etc as there was against Elizabeth who was unmarried. Mary started off very tolerant and very very popular, but she'd had a horrible life, and after the breif high her marriage gave her, it all went dramatically downhill for her. She had ''phantom pregnancies'' that she was ridiculed for, her Husband left England saying he'd be back but he never came back, it must have been horrible for her, she had always found solace in her faith and started to become more of a hardliner after this humiliation, she started to think God was punishing her for being too light on the Protestants so started the burnings. Then she'd let them go if they recanted before they were burned, then stopped doing that ...she got harder and harder thinking God wanted her to more aggressively convert England
Great words for those who left a toxic relationship.... My fav though is “may god have mercy upon my enemies because I won’t” -Alexander the Great (I believe)
In the movie he sided/worked with a movement planning to dethrone her. Though in actual fact they would have assassinated her, the movie implies he didn't know that was the true intention.
I never understand why they did this. The real Robert Dudley was unconditionally loyal to Elizabeth and never betrayed her. Why did they make this stuff up?
Because the audience wouldn't have connected with Elizabeth for choosing power over love and family. They needed him to be the bad guy in order to emotionally rationalize her decision.
@@beckonerseven9517 I guess, but this way it's not a sacrifice for her. They could also have made it a big emotional moment where she decides that no matter how much she cares for him the country comes first. Of course, that would have required them being historically accurate about his background as well.
That, along with the end dinner scene in Hannibal with Anthony Hopkins and Julianne Moore, are my ultimate favorite, most touching movie scenes, ever! 😂👏
This is so historically inaccurate and paints Robert in such a terrible light it makes me sad. Robert Dudley was never accused of treason. He loved Elizabeth and was extremely loyal to both her and England. He was originally married, but his wife died under mysterious circumstances. It was ruled an accident, but rumors (started by courtiers that were jealous of his relationship with Elizabeth) sprung up that he had murdered her. Despite there being no proof, and despite the fact that Robert was never even officially accused of murder, it caused this whole scandal. Therefore Elizabeth was forced to shun him, because back then associating with someone who had been involved in a scandal would greatly damage your reputation. She kept him at court as one of her courtiers, but she was never able to marry him.
Probably the best scene of the entire film. Elizabeth I was never better portrayed than as here by Cate Blanchett, and then the soprano singing Elgar makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
Even if this was one of the many inaccurate things in this movie, I still enjoyed Elizabeth. They really could've kept them as friends instead of the whole "backstabbing friend" cliche
I don't like this film and refused to see the sequel when I heard Robert Dudley (Earl of Leicester) wouldn't be in it at all. I had a vague hope the second film would correct the story and redeem Robert. But no....
She and her sister. Both given everything at birth and then suddenly taken away. Both saw their mothers robbed of everything their father had given them. And both waited for years for the chance to take back what was taken from them.
They had it hard, although I still think Mary was unluckiest as she had grown up in full certainty of her future, whereas Elizabeth saw the chaos at a much younger age.
By the way the music played this morning at the funeral and in this scene-Nimrod (from Enigma Variations-Variation IX (Adagio) "Nimrod" by Edward Elgar)
Elizabeth: Tell me. How shoud I serve thee, Robert? Robert: My cause is run. Elizabeth: Just tell me why. Robert: Why? Madam. Is it not plain enough to you? It is no easy thing to be loved by the Queen. It would corrupt the soul of any man. Now, for god's sake, kill me.
@@tosherification Console yourself with the knowledge Robert never betrayed Elizabeth, at least not politically. He did marry her second cousin when he finally gave up all hope of marrying Elizabeth years later, but she forgave him, essentially ignored his wife, and kept him as a close adviser, military leader, and friend/companion until he died shortly after the defeat of the Armada when they were both in their mid-fifties.
Yeah, they really got the history of Elizabeth and Robbie wrong. This really didn't happen. He NEVER committed treason. She may have had to give up on marrying Robert after his wife fell down the stairs and died (probably in a way related to cancer) and various other reason made their marriage politically hard but he did formally court Elizabeth and after she rejected him (or hated the idea of marriage at all after what happened with her father) she tried to arrange to have him marry Mary Queen of Scots and they all live in the English court, but Robert wasn't keen, still hoping to marry Elizabeth until he gave up and remarried (which pissed off Elizabeth). Apart from their personal complications of their personal lives, Robert remained a trusted and loyal member of Elizabeth's inner circle all his life. He was in charge of the English response to the Spanish Armada where she called him "my lieutenant general" and that "whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject," he died of an illness shortly after and Elizabeth locked herself in her room for a few days when she heard of his death and Lord Burly had to break down the down. The BBC miniseries the virgin queen does them justice.
I also recommend the Vanessa Redgrave/Glenda Jackson movie, "Mary Queen of Scots." It's a little more "Hollywood" than the BBC miniseries, but it doesn't twist history on its head and I think represents Robert Dudley in a fair light.
B.S. Elizabeth was close to Robert until the day he died. She was just too political to marry him. The trauma of her childhood caused her to avoid undue risk. She actually locked herself into her apartments for days after he died and her counselors had to have the door broke open! This was during the celebrations of the defeat of the Spanish Armada. Dudley had been put in charge of the English forces against the Armada as "Lieutenant and Captain-General of the Queen's Armies and Companies" and she declared him "than whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject;" and they were very close at Tilbury and after. He fell ill shortly afterward and died on rout "to take the waters" at Buxton as they were believe to improve health at the time.
@@idk674hgg We're ignoring A MOVIE in favour of REAL HISTORY. Elizabeth existed as a real person OUTSIDE OF THE FILM. Robert was also REAL. The REAL history was that ROBART was a loyal and trust advisor to Elizabeth for all his life, they were also personally close to him for all his life. She couldn't marry him for political reasons, but her pained reaction to his death is part of the historical record after HE LED HER ARMY at Tilbury. Perhaps you are getting Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicester mixed up with his son, Sir Robert Dudley, who was sort of a criminal.
@@maggiemakgill I'm confused. No, he's talking about Robert Dudley, Earl of Leceister. Everything he wrote is accurate, aside from the fact that Elizabeth's reasons for not marrying Dudley are more nuanced.
Not an expert on 16th century pronunciation but I'm pretty sure they would have aspirated "why." Many people today still do, and when you learn the etymology of the word, it's no surprise.
Cate Blanchett should return queen Elizabeth I of England for the trilogy after the first 1998 and the second 2007 and third should happen is what I'm looking forward to
This is historically inaccurate. The real Robert Dudley never plotted against Elizabeth. He loved and remained loyal to her his whole life until the day he died.
She loved him but knew that she couldn't have him because he would threaten the country she ruled. He would never mean to, but Elizabath knows how history works. She knows the same thing happen to her mother. Anne never looked for or even wanted to destroy her country, but she did because she was the mistress of her father. So she does what her father never could: She let go of her love for one man for the sake of the thousand of others who have suffered enough.
I know this is historical fiction, but this never happened. I feel that his memory should have been honored because he was always loyal. It may have been too expensive to bring this actor back again who knows.
im a guy, and I made the mistake falling in love with my best friend. we knew each other since childhood. I was 22 at the time she was 18. she was stunning, everything about her. every guy wanted her she was the centre of attention with all people. when I told her how I felt after couple of years she blocked me out. I can totally understand Roberts frustration. turned me onto cocaine and alcohol in frustration just the thought of her going out with someone else. I'm 28 now and it still plagues me
"It is no easy thing to be loved by the queen." Great line.
Indeed. No easy thing to be loved by a king or emperor either e.g. the legend of concubine zhen huan who was so loved by emperor yong zheng of the qing (manchu) dynasty of china. Many plot to discredit,harm or kill her too.
queens are dangerous, don't look to be loved by queens
Hello, l'am from the future.
Lord Robert was the great love of her life. But she remained true to England, and as stated, she became the Virgin Queen and put herself last when it came to being devoted to something. She was a true ruler.
ladyofmyheart not sure if it's true or not, but on her death bead, his name was the last thing she ever said.
I mean, if my father had two of his wives executed, only one of whom actually committed adultery, I would probably be a little fucked up about marriage too.
Nas what? She put England first. You can’t rule if you are taking care of a family. She was alone and died alone for her people.
ladyofmyheart Elizabeth did not want to share her power with any man, because she was having a tough enough time ruling as a female. She often referred to herself as a prince to her people. This was to reassure them that she was strong enough to lead England without a husband and alone. She felt she was married to England and its people. I feel she feared childbirth because so many women died.
Here is the historical problem is that as an unmarried Queen with no children the duty falls plainly on the people. If her focus on that wavers then she would be successfully assassinated and new rulers would take the throne. I will not discuss the prospect or the hubris of referring to her as the 'Virgin Queen.' It ranks up there with ''Honest Abe.' The criticism about their titles does in no way reduce my respect and admiration for there accomplishments. History honors them both and they more than earned it.
She should've won an Oscar for this. She was robbed that year. Superb acting.
subway07 Fernanda Montenegro should have won that year for her magnificent performance in "Central station".
subway07 WHAT DID SHE SAY? LET IT ALL BE DONE, SPEAKING OF EXECUTING ALL TRAITORS, WHAT I LOVE IS THE MOVIE PORTRAYAL IS SHE TRIED HER BEST NOT TO GET VIOLET KNOWING THIS WAS AGAINST WHAT SHE BELIEVED IN BUT AS ADVISED UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE CAN TRAITORS HAVE A PLACE IN HER PALACE
Yes, she was phenomenal in this film 🙌
Ella debió ganar! Su actuación fue magnífica!!!
Cate Blanchett is super fantastic I'm hoping she comes back as our queen Elizabeth tudor for the trilogy after first one 1998 and second 2007 and the third one should happen for sure
After reading more into Dudley, the fact that this movie depicted him as a traitor to Elizabeth really upsets me. He was always loyal to Elizabeth and would never conspire against her. That was really the only thing I didn't like about this movie. Aside from that, I absolutely loved this film. Cate was amazing!
I agree. It's frustrating how the screenplay completely twists history around. They wanted to make the story more powerful but instead it made it all much weaker than an authentic portrait would have been. Elizabeth's actual life was exciting enough for a great film.
This movie wasn't really as accurate as I wish it would have been
The next movie shortchanged Robert even more since he wasn't in the film at all. Yet he was at her side through the lead up to the arrival of the Spanish Armada and he led her land troops in case the Spanish army invaded England. He was at Tilbury, again by her side, when she came to rally the troops and was with her during the initial celebrations of victory in London. Unfortunately, he died shortly thereafter and her chief ministers had to break down the doors to her private chambers after she locked herself inside for several days to mourn. Look it up if you don't believe me.
I agree! I am fairly sure he was the ONLY one, besides perhaps Sir William Cecil and of course, the ever loyal Sir Francis Walsingham, but they were politicians, who never betrayed her. He was truly her only real friend.
You know I also did not think Dudley's portrayal was accurate. From what I have read Elizabeth saw to his care even as he was dying. Bit with this blemish aside this movie is superb. Cate Blanchett should have won the Oscar that year.
her voice..omg!! so Royal.
Also, the subtle way her lips start to drop at the side in the final 20 mins like she's growing old fast.
She is just a brilliant actress.
*It is said that she never threw away the love letters he wrote to her. And many years after his death, when on her own death bed, just before she passed away, she whispered, "Oh, Robert" , with her last breath.*
Elizabeth was damaged goods thanks to her father Henry VIII.
@neptunedawn7121 damaged goods?? Really??
@neptunedawn7121 how so?
Robert Dudley's heart and soul is absolutely broken. He's a shadow of a man. Love crushed him and beat him.
she truly loved him her last words in her death bed was his name.
Source?
I’ve heard that too!!
@@gloriaregali9090 historians
But according to the historians, her last words was the name of her mother, Anne Boleyn. But I don't know cause I wasn't there.
So much nonsense here! This movie is enjoyable but historically so inaccurate that it's almost fiction. There's no historic evidence that she said his name on her "death bed". In fact, she even refused to lay down and stood for hours in her chamber before she collapsed dead.
"He shall be kept alive, to always remind me of how close I came to danger". That line and delivery always gives me chills! Superb acting Cate Blanchett ❤️
I have the same reaction !
This scene is perfect . The emotion, the music, everything. One of my favorite scenes in a movie.
Yeah, but it's totally made up and an insult to Robert Dudley.
There was NO EXCUSE for the inaccuracy of this, they were best friends for life he never betrayed her
They were much more than friends. She never saw him while alone again.
It’s gross and unnecessary. I think it’s history “dumbed down” for a modern audience. Elizabeth never married Robert (or anyone else) for political reasons. They were lifelong friends and emotional lovers (and perhaps sexual lovers as well but unknown.). They remained constant companions throughout their lives although Dudley married twice. Filmmakers probably feared the accurate history would make Elizabeth appear less powerful. The film makes her look like a strong woman who dumped her traitorous boyfriend. More relatable to the masses.
@@astoriacub There is no evidence that she never saw him alone after his betrayel. First of all because it NEVER HAPPENED. Second, we know they were very close to each other and spent (with breaks) much time together until his death - and not a single historic source ever said that she refused to see him alone. Don't believe what movies tell you.
Exactly correct and they were lovers for a long long time, and when he died she was heartbroken.
@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 how was she able to hide her pregnancies?
I love how her voice is so soft when she says " rather make you live" then so strong when she says " and I will make an example of him."
She should have won the Oscar for best actress and not Gwenyth Paltrow.....
shannon diaram Fernanda Montenegro was the best actress that year
Marce Franco this movie participated in the Oscars of 1999 and so did Shakespeare in love
I agree that Gwyneth didn't deserve it but to me Cate's acting is too theatrical and put-on in "Elzabeth". She was much better in "Elizabeth - the golden empire". Fernanda Montenegro should have won for "Central Station" in 1999.
Hollywood privileged
I did like Shakespeare in love but yeah I'd have to agree with on this she was robbed 🧐
They did their love/friendship such a dishonor. He never betrayed her and remained loyal for his life, and she loved him though they did not get to be together.
regardless of how incorrect this is as far as historical accuracy goes, I adore how she let him live and weaponized his depression and guilt against him. That's peak psychological brilliance. Love it
Robert Dudley NEVER betrayed Elizabeth. Perhaps he was of questionable character in other areas but he remained loyal to his sovereign to his death. I hate when they fictionalize history for the sake of melodrama.
That is true. His only remarkable mistake was to have lost in the Netherlands, but he was later forgiven and he held the royal favor until his death.
Was Fiennes portraying Devereaux or Dudley?
@@moriahjacobs6131 Dudley. Devereaux WAS executed for treason.
I believe that Dudley loved Elizabeth as a woman above being loyal to her as his queen. He stayed loyal to her all his life and it was even speculated that Dudley murdered his wife to be with Elizabeth but that was never proven.
Same. I get when they have to combine two people for the sake of moving the story when they're minor players (the Tudors with Henry's sisters), or embellish something for the sake of a pretty, dramatic picture (Elizabeth's horseback speech..it IS a movie after all and that was lovely and dramatic). But changing the entire roll of someone in her life like Dudley to a completely different motive and outcome was just unnecessary. It would have been just as easy to work with what actually happened, and done well, would have been more interesting and had a great potential for more beauty and drama.
“I will have one mistress here. And no master.” Words to live by.
Blanchett is perfect. As it modulates the voice, the posture of the body, and from 1:19 to 1:42 it does not blink. It transmits a lot with the expression of its eyes.
Okay but why do you say "it" instead of "she" ??
The soft, yet strong nature of her deliverance, the music, the costume choice, she's portrayed here as a saint, sublime in her victory, and merciful, yet damning retribution.
the way she says "no" makes me cry
'It would corrupt the soul of any man' That line is heartbreaking 💘 Even though this part of the movie is not historically accurate at all, honestly, it's one of the most beautifully played out scenes. It perfectly captures the love of two people who could never be together. Cate Blanchett is an outstanding actress.
After later reading about the real Robert Dudley, I did not like how he was portrayed in this film. Sure… he was a man whore and already had a wife during his romantic romp with Elizabeth but so were a lot of other men. Furthermore, he and Elizabeth still loved each other deeply until the day he died and even after that Elizabeth mourned him constantly. Dudley also became one of her closest and most trusted advisors/confidants and served her loyally until his death. Of course, the film makes it seem as if she just chose to cast him aside and completely blot him from existence or something. Big surprise huh? That's Hollywood for you!
Hollywood indeed. It was directed by an Indian, produced by three Englishman, written by an Englishman and starred mainly British and Australian actors. Dont blame Hollyweird for the films shortcomings.
I see what you're saying. It's also like the conflict with Josephine and Napoleon.
"Hollywood" it may be: it does portray Elizabeth's real feelings of how love is a dangerous thing especially to a queen whose historical role is the Heir Maker and a Path to Power. It destroyed her mother and her stepmother(s) and with Dudley, real as it was, could never be what they would want it to be because she'd never be safe. That much of least is fact as it can be.
girl1213 True.
I dunno once trust is broken truth emerges. Truth he lied. If roles were reversed would he have felt just? Sure love was true. Hers. But turned something beautiful into a vile 7 headed beast.
Why she was the most powerful Queen. She stayed true to who she was no matter how much it hurt. Love it.
Forget the historical inaccuarcy - what a sensational scene this is.
I think it's awful. I cringed through the whole scene because its SO inaccurate and I refused to watch the sequel because I knew that plot couldn't have Robert in it and he was crucial to Elizabeth's plans to confront the Spanish.
@@GoGreen1977 The sequel was crap - a mis-step
I am always mesmerized by Cate's performance in this scene. Goosebumps!
Robert really wanted to marry Elizabeth, but never did anything against her that could be called treasonous or subversive. This is grossly inaccurate, sadly so.
The reality of it all was more than interesting enough for any movie. Why alter the facts?
...because it's a movie
tm502010 Yeah...he is known as Elizabeth's favorite. He was loyal to her throughout his life. He even led battles for England in his later years. He got sick and died when he was 56 years old. She kept his letter and wrote that it was his last letter and kept in a box. She locked herself in her apartment for 3 days until men broke the door down.
+tm502010 Yeah. This is good but I cringed throughout watching because of how inaccurate it was.
+tm502010 I always find it disappointing after watching a brilliant film only to learn that the story is altered from its inspiration beyond reckognition. I don't know what really happened with Elizabeth, but I am disappointed that what happened in the film isn't accurate...
yes it is! they ruined the movie with that. the director should of stayed true to historical facts!
The real relationship between Elizabeth and Robert is so bittersweet, dramatic, compelling, and, to a degree, star-crossed that there is absolutely NO REASON to make this stuff up and besmirch Robert's love for and loyalty to Elizabeth. I liked both actors' portrayals of their respective characters, but I will not watch it again because of how the film presents Robert. I also refuse to watch the sequel where Dudley (the Earl of Leicester) is ignored completely when he was such an integral part of the preparations for the Armada, and just before his death, he and Elizabeth drew even closer. A very heartbreaking end to their long years together.
It's from Edward Elgar's Enigma Variations, called Nimrod. It's usually just instrumental but this version, with vocals, is really beautiful.
When it's time to stand up for yourself and you realize though it is painful you have to let go of people who hurt you and go out of their way to destroy you because they are unhappy this is so beautiful and the music Queen Elizabeth rocks !!!!! And yes this is so captivating and this scene alone deserved an Oscar
I findcit maddening that this film makes Robert Dudley out to be a traitor to Elizabeth. They were bonded for 50 years to one degree or another. It's an insult to his reputation and their love for one another that lasted until he died.
This scene gets me every time.the acting is superb by both
This scene, accompanied by Elgar's Nimrod is truly wonderful.
would like to see the scene where Walsingham says "All men need something greater than themselves to look up to and worship. They must be able to touch the divine here on earth."
Actually having just watched the whole film, I'm glad it wasn't "spoilt" online :) Turned out to be a brilliant scene and a nice surprise for me!
Idk why people still give the oscars credit
She wasn’t robbed, the oscar is a fraud, nominations are bought
She gave an amazing performance and we reward her for that
She doesn’t need any stupid statuette
Well, she still won 2 Oscars so if they don't matter at all then the 2 she has don't matter either.
Yes, some of the nominations *are* bought. Harvey Weinstein was the sole reason Gwyneth Paltrow won at all. The man had some serious pulling power and it's good it's all coming out now following the wake of his sexual abuse of countless of actresses. And you only talk about the Oscars as if that is the ONLY acting award. There are several others like the Golden Globe, BAFTA, AFI and many others which don't get as much media coverage but which are *far more honest and serious* institutes than the Academy.
Cate Blanchett has 155 wins(!) in all forms of acting awards. Never mind the 2 Oscars.
Idk know why the likes of you keep talking as if you know *anything* . Oscars this and Oscars that. Far more proper acting awards are out there and here you cry about the Oscars being bought. Not even that is an absolute truth. Some genuine thespians definitely still get nominated - most of which the idiots out there don't even know by name.
Coline Collard do you often get something out of acting like a smartass like that?
You just lecture me about something I didn’t even say.
Coline Collard and the oscars are bought, you contradicted yourself by bringing Harvey into this monologue of yours haha
I love this movie,and cate she is the best.
I believe that man truly loved her and she knew it.
She did know for almost her entire life. They became friends when they were both children, and despite some ups and downs, they stayed close friends, maybe more, until he died when he was about 56 and she was 55. Pretty good relationship given the vagaries of the times and political and religious intrigues and conflicts.
@@GoGreen1977 why would he marry another woman if he stayed loyal to her?
Bullshit!!! They were in love until he died!! At least she was in love with him until he died. I believe he loved her too, but fell in love with his second wife as well.
He had a wife when he went behind Elizabeth then he married a second after his first wife died or their marriage was annulled basically he was a Womanizer
The Dudleys had a reputation. Robert's grandfather was an unpopular tax collector, while his father tried to exclude Mary and Elizabeth from the throne. Now we have another Dudley trying to marry the queen. It just didn't look good.
It didn't look good, but they were childhood friends and I believe he truly loved her. He sold part of his lands to help her when Mary was queen and Elizabeth's position seemed very, very unsure.
average everyday people yes they knew each other as children and he was still in tower in “ limbo” when Mary I put Elizabeth was brought so for the two months Elizabeth was there they obviously reconnected and they bonded even more
Yes. The Dudleys were really mean to the Harry Potter too.
A shame they had to dramatized the movie Robert, in real life he was utterly devoted to her and she loved him for the rest of her days.
She is by far, without a shadow of a doubt. The greatest actress of our time.
I agree, the best of the best 💗
I really feel sad for her. She remain true to her duty towards her kingdom
they actually remained friends for the rest of their lives. this film had multiple inaccuracies
to always remind me of how CLOSE I came to danger..
just broke me to tears, this is just sad, pure agony, lost of hope and faith she delivers it perfectly.
This movie was one big historical lie but the scene is great nonetheless.
As a history boff and student I used to hate these kinds of artistic liberties, but have grown not to care as long as the film is brilliant like this one :)
Blanchet was never young and never old, she is just the moment, strong and determined and worthy. Maybe she IS Elizabeth.
ugh why am I crying to this
right :/
I don't know.
When you believed once that the guy you hooked up sincerely likes you and will stay with you.
"He shall be kept alive to always remind me of how closer I came to danger."
Even if I really like this movie, the real facts were much more interesting and dramatic, especially Leicester's death and Elizabeth's reaction about it
And I will make an example of him..... He shall me kept alive to always remind me of just how close I came to danger
Prince Philip requested that this be played in the courtyard at Windsor for his funeral and it was this morning. This scene in the movie is one of the best. Her dress is outstanding and when she tells him she is going to keep him alive and that tear runs down his face, the facial expression she has before she turns her back on him and leaves, is priceless! Between the both of them, that's what I call acting!
What did he request? This scene or song?
I think he means the music - Nimrod, it's played every year on remembrance Sunday in the UK
The whole movie is art but this scene breaks me. l o v e d their chemistry.
And really enabled my Joseph Fiennes crush.
In the scene where she just let out the words "Play a volta!' I felt like immediately obeying the command myself. 😂😂😂 Such brilliant performance by Blanchette.
Amazing acting! The writing superb! The music - love! The look of disdain purely regal! He was so weak in comparison to her. Even though this was not historically accurate, I do not care, still sublime!
I love Cate Blanchett and Joseph Fiennes in this movie!
Joseph feinnes is really underrated... It's a shame...
I really like him in this and Shakespeare in love movie.
It’s so cool cuz when he says “Being loved by the queen can corrupt any man” and her face changes. In a way she realizes now she will never be able to rule with a husband or lover or anyone who is that close to her and who can use the power she holds against her or her wishes. But also in my mind it also empowers her because it implies that any man can be corrupted by the queens power. But the queen is not a man, so she won’t be as easily corruptible as long as she is able to remove the parts of her that were already corrupted by men; so she becomes a virgin. And then what was thought of to be her greatest weakness (her womanhood) actually became her biggest strength.
I am of those believers of them as a real couple full of true LOVE and friendship, allies, soulmates. I think she broke His heart in pieces
While I love this movie, I know of the lies of it as well. Her sister Mary executed 208 threats, while Elizabeth, the "Golden Age" Queen executed over 600 Catholics with no reason behind it. However, back to point. Great, absolutely wonderful acting by Joseph Fiennes in his role as Robert.
Most likely because Queen Mary was not in so much danger as Queen Elizabeth was. Queen Mary didn't have the powerful Catholic Church, and catholic countries, against her.
Are you quite SURE about that? Queen Mary was MORE in danger than Elizabeth ever was. But alas, England is left with a cafeteria religion born of infidelity, Lutheranism, and murder.
Mary only reigned for 5 years. Elizabeth reigned for 45 years. Big difference.
And I really don't believe those numbers anyway.
The difference is in why and when and how. Elizabeth reigned for 40 years, Mary I for 5. Elizabeth executed for Treason only a tiny handful for heresy whereas Mary wanted to burn them to death to convince prods to convert. Elizabeth was ok with you being Catholic if you were loyal. The ones Elizabeth executed were also mostly after the Pope sent out an edict ordering Catholics to murder and overthrow her which put her in far more danger. In the 1500s people believed the Pope was really speaking for God in the way they don't today. So when the pope says killing this person is no murder they took it very seriously. Mary I was more solid on her throne. She had the might of Spain protecting her, there was no 3/4 Protestant powers to compare to the Catholic powers of France, Germany, Italy etc as there was against Elizabeth who was unmarried.
Mary started off very tolerant and very very popular, but she'd had a horrible life, and after the breif high her marriage gave her, it all went dramatically downhill for her. She had ''phantom pregnancies'' that she was ridiculed for, her Husband left England saying he'd be back but he never came back, it must have been horrible for her, she had always found solace in her faith and started to become more of a hardliner after this humiliation, she started to think God was punishing her for being too light on the Protestants so started the burnings. Then she'd let them go if they recanted before they were burned, then stopped doing that ...she got harder and harder thinking God wanted her to more aggressively convert England
Lisa M Well 208 in 5 years thats too many compared to 600 in 45 years.
A Queen a woman oh my God so strong so ahead of her time and she could show women now what strength is and how weak men are.
Not really, watch Troy.
Or Braveheart. Man's strength's in his character. ;)
Says so by Karen lol 'Weak men'
Great words for those who left a toxic relationship....
My fav though is “may god have mercy upon my enemies because I won’t”
-Alexander the Great (I believe)
Simply Stunning acting! And the accent...
my favourite scene in the whole film, beautiful, historic, passionate, and Joseph is just gorgeous ;p
Not very historically accurate in the details, yet the overall picture it gives of Elizabeth is about as close as we will ever get to her, I imagine.
Actually, the Glenda Jackson series Elizabeth R is the closest we will get to the real woman.
01:38 I just wish her mother realized it as well. T_T
this piece of soundtrack hit harder in Dunkirk
I love the variety of costume each actors and actresses wear.and they travel to some exciting places.
In the movie he sided/worked with a movement planning to dethrone her. Though in actual fact they would have assassinated her, the movie implies he didn't know that was the true intention.
I thought the plot was to marry Elizabeth to Philip of Spain, or did I misunderstand it?
He signed some papers that would put the Duke of Cornwall in power and threatened to dethrone her. (which is not true in real life)
when you know that you will never see your love again ... you are Robert Dudley
If he loved the Queen, why he married with another woman?
politics
@@Emy4316
I never understand why they did this. The real Robert Dudley was unconditionally loyal to Elizabeth and never betrayed her. Why did they make this stuff up?
Because the audience wouldn't have connected with Elizabeth for choosing power over love and family. They needed him to be the bad guy in order to emotionally rationalize her decision.
@@beckonerseven9517 I guess, but this way it's not a sacrifice for her. They could also have made it a big emotional moment where she decides that no matter how much she cares for him the country comes first. Of course, that would have required them being historically accurate about his background as well.
That, along with the end dinner scene in Hannibal with Anthony Hopkins and Julianne Moore, are my ultimate favorite, most touching movie scenes, ever! 😂👏
This is so historically inaccurate and paints Robert in such a terrible light it makes me sad. Robert Dudley was never accused of treason. He loved Elizabeth and was extremely loyal to both her and England. He was originally married, but his wife died under mysterious circumstances. It was ruled an accident, but rumors (started by courtiers that were jealous of his relationship with Elizabeth) sprung up that he had murdered her. Despite there being no proof, and despite the fact that Robert was never even officially accused of murder, it caused this whole scandal. Therefore Elizabeth was forced to shun him, because back then associating with someone who had been involved in a scandal would greatly damage your reputation. She kept him at court as one of her courtiers, but she was never able to marry him.
Probably the best scene of the entire film. Elizabeth I was never better portrayed than as here by Cate Blanchett, and then the soprano singing Elgar makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
I feel Sorry for Lord Robert
Even if this was one of the many inaccurate things in this movie, I still enjoyed Elizabeth. They really could've kept them as friends instead of the whole "backstabbing friend" cliche
Oh how I love this scene!!!!!!
I love the Enigma Variations underscoring. English simplicity at its finest.
Very historically inaccurate, but I love this movie regardless.
0:48 "Now, for God's sake kill me."
I don't like this film and refused to see the sequel when I heard Robert Dudley (Earl of Leicester) wouldn't be in it at all. I had a vague hope the second film would correct the story and redeem Robert. But no....
If it was historically accurate this movie would have been boring
Love these two as a couple, she should have won the Oscar...
elgar:variation on an original theme Op 36. "Enigma"-9 Nimrod (Adagio)
-This is the name on the movie soundtrack. It really is a beautiful tune!
She and her sister. Both given everything at birth and then suddenly taken away. Both saw their mothers robbed of everything their father had given them. And both waited for years for the chance to take back what was taken from them.
They had it hard, although I still think Mary was unluckiest as she had grown up in full certainty of her future, whereas Elizabeth saw the chaos at a much younger age.
This never happened. I don’t understand why they felt the need to put so much fiction in an otherwise well made film.
One Of my favourite speech
I uually don't like when the music doesn't fit the era but Elgar's Nimrod is timeless and perfectly fits this scene.
By the way the music played this morning at the funeral and in this scene-Nimrod (from Enigma Variations-Variation IX (Adagio) "Nimrod" by Edward Elgar)
Lord Robert shall be kept alive to always remind her.
Okay this part is BS because Robert never betrayed Elizabeth like this. But still, powerful scene.
Elizabeth: Tell me. How shoud I serve thee, Robert?
Robert: My cause is run.
Elizabeth: Just tell me why.
Robert: Why? Madam. Is it not plain enough to you? It is no easy thing to be loved by the Queen. It would corrupt the soul of any man. Now, for god's sake, kill me.
Shouldn't it be "My course is run"?
it is better to die than to be kept alive this way - in prison or under house arrest.
Moisés A. Bittner :‘-(
This scene is where I cry. Every time I watch it. When that single, solitary tear rolls down that beautiful face of Joseph Fiennes.................
@@tosherification Console yourself with the knowledge Robert never betrayed Elizabeth, at least not politically. He did marry her second cousin when he finally gave up all hope of marrying Elizabeth years later, but she forgave him, essentially ignored his wife, and kept him as a close adviser, military leader, and friend/companion until he died shortly after the defeat of the Armada when they were both in their mid-fifties.
Yeah, they really got the history of Elizabeth and Robbie wrong. This really didn't happen. He NEVER committed treason. She may have had to give up on marrying Robert after his wife fell down the stairs and died (probably in a way related to cancer) and various other reason made their marriage politically hard but he did formally court Elizabeth and after she rejected him (or hated the idea of marriage at all after what happened with her father) she tried to arrange to have him marry Mary Queen of Scots and they all live in the English court, but Robert wasn't keen, still hoping to marry Elizabeth until he gave up and remarried (which pissed off Elizabeth). Apart from their personal complications of their personal lives, Robert remained a trusted and loyal member of Elizabeth's inner circle all his life. He was in charge of the English response to the Spanish Armada where she called him "my lieutenant general" and that "whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject," he died of an illness shortly after and Elizabeth locked herself in her room for a few days when she heard of his death and Lord Burly had to break down the down. The BBC miniseries the virgin queen does them justice.
I also recommend the Vanessa Redgrave/Glenda Jackson movie, "Mary Queen of Scots." It's a little more "Hollywood" than the BBC miniseries, but it doesn't twist history on its head and I think represents Robert Dudley in a fair light.
B.S. Elizabeth was close to Robert until the day he died. She was just too political to marry him. The trauma of her childhood caused her to avoid undue risk. She actually locked herself into her apartments for days after he died and her counselors had to have the door broke open! This was during the celebrations of the defeat of the Spanish Armada. Dudley had been put in charge of the English forces against the Armada as "Lieutenant and Captain-General of the Queen's Armies and Companies" and she declared him "than whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject;" and they were very close at Tilbury and after. He fell ill shortly afterward and died on rout "to take the waters" at Buxton as they were believe to improve health at the time.
@@idk674hgg We're ignoring A MOVIE in favour of REAL HISTORY. Elizabeth existed as a real person OUTSIDE OF THE FILM. Robert was also REAL. The REAL history was that ROBART was a loyal and trust advisor to Elizabeth for all his life, they were also personally close to him for all his life. She couldn't marry him for political reasons, but her pained reaction to his death is part of the historical record after HE LED HER ARMY at Tilbury. Perhaps you are getting Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicester mixed up with his son, Sir Robert Dudley, who was sort of a criminal.
@@maggiemakgill I'm confused. No, he's talking about Robert Dudley, Earl of Leceister. Everything he wrote is accurate, aside from the fact that Elizabeth's reasons for not marrying Dudley are more nuanced.
I think rather to let you live…. to always remind me of how close I came to danger.
I love this queen and this movie ♥️
Not an expert on 16th century pronunciation but I'm pretty sure they would have aspirated "why." Many people today still do, and when you learn the etymology of the word, it's no surprise.
I love Joseph Fiennes!!!!❤️
I love this scene, however, as someone who majored and studied history, there is absolutely no truth in this scene!
Beautiful just beautiful love story..😢
Cate Blanchett should return queen Elizabeth I of England for the trilogy after the first 1998 and the second 2007 and third should happen is what I'm looking forward to
This is historically inaccurate. The real Robert Dudley never plotted against Elizabeth. He loved and remained loyal to her his whole life until the day he died.
Detail details. Next you'll be telling us the real Elizabeth was just as brutal as her father.
She loved him but knew that she couldn't have him because he would threaten the country she ruled. He would never mean to, but Elizabath knows how history works. She knows the same thing happen to her mother. Anne never looked for or even wanted to destroy her country, but she did because she was the mistress of her father. So she does what her father never could:
She let go of her love for one man for the sake of the thousand of others who have suffered enough.
I know this is historical fiction, but this never happened. I feel that his memory should have been honored because he was always loyal. It may have been too expensive to bring this actor back again who knows.
im a guy, and I made the mistake falling in love with my best friend. we knew each other since childhood. I was 22 at the time she was 18. she was stunning, everything about her. every guy wanted her she was the centre of attention with all people. when I told her how I felt after couple of years she blocked me out. I can totally understand Roberts frustration. turned me onto cocaine and alcohol in frustration just the thought of her going out with someone else. I'm 28 now and it still plagues me
"Is it not plain enough to you?"
She kept him alive is very similar to keeping him on the shelf, which is what caused him to be treasonous in the first place.