I'm American from Appalachia- the region of the game- and it does hit me hard. I don't think it's a great game, as there isn't much game to it, but it's an emotional story that reflects a lot of the history and reality of the area. So I was one of the folks who followed it as it came out. I can see why people wouldn't like it though.
That's good to hear - I thought I might be able to relate, because I do come from one of the old mining areas in the UK that went through bad times in the 80s and 90s, and some of which never recovered, which is why Landlord's Super really worked for me, but clearly it's a very distinct thing from what the game is alluding to in the US, as this just didn't speak to me in the same way.
I've commented on Kentucky Route Zero that you can create a entirely workable definition of what a game is that excludes KRZ, and I don't really mean that as a criticism. Just that it's a magnificent whatever it is, but that might not be a game.
Just based on that first part, and what I picked up second hand before watching this, is that this game fits very squarely into the American Gothic traditions, which do tend to be about rural and industrial decline. Mysterious or haunted highways in the middle of nowhere are also major features of the genre in more recent years. Things like highways that can only be found in the right circumstances that take you to ghost towns, both of which disappear in the morning or once you leave or turn from active and real to long-abandoned are staples of the genre. At least in more recent years; the literary tradition has been around for about as long as the country. Often these things are as much about the mood as anything. I think the game was trying to get across the feeling of driving around unfamiliar roads at night far from much of anything. It kind of reminded me of trying to find my way through backroads in Oregon at night when I got off an Exit Only freeway ramp and had to try finding my way back in the days before GPS.
5:12 Your dog is a Bluetick Coonhound. The breed is named so because their black and white fur looks blue. Also thank you for playing this game, Kentucky rarely gets to be anything other than flyover country and it's nice to see a game that really captures my home state's essence.
Let me just say as someone who lives in Kentucky just off of Interstate sixty-five, there are exactly zero giant horse head Art Deco gas stations around here but the dogs wearing straw hats bit is spot on.
As someone who also lives in Kentucky, I was pleasantly surprised at the fact that the map was an actual accurate road map, right down to having Mammoth Cave NP on it.
3:19 The turntable, the road map earlier, the _Zero_ itself... most of the paths in this game are entirely optional, and it's up to you, as the player, whether you want to explore them or not...
You may be interested to know that many gas stations in the US do in fact also sell or refill propane gas canisters for use in cooking grills and the like. And if we want to stretch further, many also have air pumps available for use to refill tires. So there's a decent argument to be made that gas stations here are in fact accurately named.
@@ManyATrueNerd gasoline burns best when vaporized, specifically because it's the gaseous fumes that actually burn... The actual liquid state wouldn't actually readily ignite if it werent for the vapors... So... You're wrong, as usual.
I'm American and most of my family is from the Kentucky/Ohio/West Virginia area. The only thing about this that you didn't get that seemed perfectly fine to me was the people playing music by a barn at 3 am. When you live in the middle of nowhere and there's nothing to do you get drunk and play music and 3 am and old barns are pretty much everywhere, so that seems fine to me. Otherwise I think I feel the same way you do about people going back and playing the other chapter. Oh, and I assume the drawing of the little girl in the miner's hat wasn't about children working in the mine but rather one of the Marquez children wearing a hat. If their families were running the mine or mining it's not surprise the children would have been around it.
Jon, I was answering each question you asked in the video with "Well, yes and no." or "Both." I am a native KY and this game captures "Kentucky" SO WELL. I was also one those who stuck with the game for those 7 long years. I quite enjoyed you're mystification to it, and while I hope to see you play through the rest of the game, I would totally understand if you didn't. It's not much in the way of gameplay, but VERY MUCH in the way of metaphor.
I'm really digging the mysterious surreal mood of the game. While Jon may not appreciate, or be able to comprehend the style the game is going for, I think I'd really like it.
As someone who appreciates wordplay, I'm betting Jon would like the state motto of Kentucky (home of the Derby and Rye Whisky), which is "Unbridled Spirit". It brings me so much joy.
@@RevanFan what do you mean last time? Hitman 2 had the 'goty legacy pack' with wich you could play the first games lvls and the 'expansion pass' wich expanded (it's in the game) Hitman 2... so pretty easy isn't it?
@@proudbandito That's now. They cut it back. Originally there was the Standard Edition, Gold Edition, Silver Edition, Collector's Edition, Expansion Pass, GOTY Legacy Pack, GOTY Legacy Pack Upgrade, Collector's Pack, and I think a few more things. There were literally guides helping people see what each version and package had.
Holy shiiiiiitttt I never thought I'd see you play this!! Why are you playing all my favorite games lately? ck3, rimworld, and now KR0! I fucking love you man!!
@@jondorthebrinkinator The gasoline is atomized, emulsified to form the "liquid suspended in compressed air", then decompressed to turn that gasoline into a vapor that will be burnt. Turning it into a fine mist makes that phase change happen more efficiently.
@@5Andysalive Homonyms are completely legitimate parts of language so it doesn't really matter what is, it's gas because that's one the meanings of the multiple meanings of gas. Another being to "have a gas" as in have a good time. To add to that, both liquified natural gas and liquified petroleum gas still use the word gas despite their phase, because their storage is not the intended state of use. The gas in gasoline is from the phase of matter gas. But the entire thing is a silly argument from people not liking that different people use different words. Both petrol and gas are valid words.
jon you’re doing it to me again. you play a game i go no i can’t keep watching this i need to buy the game and play it myself. i’m gonna cry all of 30 minutes into this for some reason probably because it’s relatable. the first time was with GRIS and i can’t begin to describe how much i felt through it
I'm glad to hear that, because I was intrigued and just dandy with the meta narrative and general creepifying but could not imagine becoming hooked by a playtime that felt shorter than a demo as 20% of a 7 year production.
@@scoutobrien3406 yeah it was a super condensed version even of the main story line - it's definitely worth going to the bait shop to find the cousin but beyond that the map has so many little side stories and people to meet sprinkled around. It's still not super long but at the very least more than double what we saw.
An episode of shouting "JON! JUST PLAY THE DAMN GAME! Quit trying to guess ahead!" You can always tell when Jon isn't going to like a game....his snide tone comes out pretty quick. Go back and look at his library...if he didn't like it...he's snide within the first 3 minutes. LOL
Middle of the night, jamming in a ruined barn... that is the ideal location for a bluegrass band. If this was real life, you should walk over there with a guitar and a glass bottle (to share) and listen to them play. They'll probably blow you away.
Jon, have you ever heard of the game "Kona". It's a first person horror about a man getting lost in a haunted Blizzard in Quebec. Very spooky, and you get to drive a pick-up truck.
Usually Jon describes what's on screen with enough detail I don't have to look at the video. With this one however it sounded like he was having a stroke
Jon feels the same way about Gasoline being called Gas as I do about Mathematics being called Maths. It's singular, Math, not plural, and the youtube spellchecker agrees with me.
@@19peter96"The usual argument goes that mathematics is plural because it ends in an -s, so maths should be its abbreviation. The problem is that, while it ends in an -s, mathematics is a mass noun and usually takes a singular verb (e.g., Mathematics is my best subject”)." Mass nouns are singular. Examples of Mass Nouns. Mass Noun - Attempt At Making It Plural furniture - four furnitures lumber - four lumbers gold - four golds
@@x-yl Are you sure? "The word petroleum has been around for much longer than the first cars. Indeed it can be traced in that form to 14th century France, and so shortening this to simply 'petrol' meant a modern name for an ancient product." And from National Geographic Society: "What is petrol also called? Petroleum, also called crude oil, is a fossil fuel. ... Coal, natural gas, and petroleum are all fossil fuels that formed under similar conditions."
Jon, internal combustion engines run on great heaps of air mixed with aerosolized gasoline. The liquid form is just really handy for transport and it's a lot less explodey. Gasoline burns, gasoline vapors explode.
What do you mean play? There's no game. It's just a linear route with non-story-changing decisions that result in minor dialogue differences. It's an art house movie, not meant to entertain, but to make other art house patrons squint their eyes a little, turn their head at a certain 18 degree angle and nod their head. "Ah Yes," *Quiet golf clap indistinguishable from sarcastic clap* "very droll, well done. Have you seen the newest work by P. Retentious? Yes, it's a little one man show about rebirth and forgiveness, and - get this - the main character is the bus driver in the game Desert Bus. No? Haven't seen it? Well, clearly someone has to keep the masses entertained, we can't have everyone appreciating high art, ah, I kid darling, but do go see it or we simply cannot be seen together." The creators of this game obviously created this game specifically for people to analyze it to death. They probably need to see it happening or they can't reach a climax or something. Thanks to Jon, they're gonna have a little priapic ceremony and just in time too, since the creators haven't been turgid since late January 2020, when they released the last chapter to a wave of adulation. I know, I'm being meaner than this play really merits. I just don't tend to like art house effluent.
@@pdughi You want pretentious go watch Observer, that game was done for circle pleasuring with other devs. This is more of a game for Kentuckians. And most games nowadays only give you the illusion of choice anyway.
Well done Jon, you got approximately 23 minutes further into it than I did... don't get me wrong, I love me a bit of Raylan Givens and walking out of a holler with Tillie Helton growing tobacco by the Big Richland River while fire in the hole etc. but man, this game was just a pretentious drag from start to premature finish, I've honestly seldom felt less inclined to find out "what happened next" (and that includes Cultist bloody Simulator).
I will make a deal with you Jon if you convince British people to stop calling fries chips then I will try to convince Americans to stop calling petrol gas.
As a rural American, I get some of the references, but Jon got all of them too. There are old mines in some places, there are old gas (or ‘petrol’ depending on if you’re British or 70 years old and also southern) stations But this all being said, all in all, it was still weird, I am not particularly spoken to with this, it was just weird. Though maybe weird enough for me to think ‘alright, sure I will check out the next chapter to see what the heck is goin on!
....Jon has multi thousand pound/hours invested in studying a classics degree......"Look a horse!!!....called it" Well done Jon, now can you tell us what noise the cow makes? ....lol
Gasoline is named after the flammable vapor (gas) it produces, which is the useful part of the substance in nearly every instance. So there is a reason why it is called that, even if it can be confusing, though frankly all the names for the stuff are confusing if you think about them for a second.
It's not really a game made for videos. I'd say spend a few more hours with it just exploring in that first chapter and let the ambiance wash over you. It's a very solitary and reserved experience and kind of needs to be played alone (without an audience). It may still work for you yet
Perfectly put. I think KR0 is a game great for video essays and analysis, but not the best for a Let's Play-ish experience. I can't imagine playing it for, or even with, someone else. It is truly a memorable experience like no other, though.
Okay, I'll accept that "its not a gas" concept for not calling "gas stations"...However, if we are sticking with JUST the vehicle idea here lets discuss the two typical bullshit terms used by Britts/Aussies. "Boot" and "Bonnet". The box at the back of the car, has a lid, that locks, and happens to function like what was once strapped to the back of cars when they were first being produced, what was that thing called? Oh yeah, a TRUNK. Boots are on your feet, the thing that touches the ground, if anything should be called a "boot" its the tires of the car. You don't randomly store stuff in your boots, nor do you put your feet in the trunk of your car (a whole person with feet maybe, but not just feet). Bonnets go on your head, the engine cavity of the car isn't the tallest part of the car, that would typically be the roof above the place where your head happens to be when you are sitting in it, therefor a bonnet would be more appropriate to call the roof of the car and not the thing covering the engine (more closely though to be the heart of a car not the brain). While "hood" also does have a reference to a head covering it is a covering that is hinged back, like how a car hood works, but it is also a term used as a covering to mechanical parts as well as things that tend to give off smoke or fluids. A bonnet is just a silly hat.
Man you're crazy. Jon would absolutely hate Fallout. Not his style AT ALL. that's like asking him to play Rome Total War because he has a degree in ancient history.
25:42 - _"Ooh, I'm not sure she exists anymore by the way... I feel like um, that woman might just sort of, not exist... Does she exist? Does anyone exist?"_ Yeah... Jon? Her car was gone from the driveway, I assume that because you chose not to find her cousin to repair the TV, she just went herself instead. Nothing spooky or supernatural, just a woman who decided to leave you alone in her house, presumably thinking your character was too brain-dead to steal anything.
Jon, I don't think it's so generally an American thing as it is specifically a Kentucky/Appalachia thing. The coal country of Kentucky, specifically, is a haunted place, and this is clearly a haunted game, governed by dream logic, which doesn't seem to agree with you all that well. For some specific Kentucky pop culture context, maybe have a look at the TV show "Justified" (which is worth spending some time with anyway, because it's kinda great), and/or just mainline it a bit by listening to Patty Loveless singing "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive".
An empty tank is full of gas, the engine pumps and injects a liquid or has the fuel evaporate in a carburettor, which if you Google the meaning, specifically tells you the fuel is liquid. Today was "Things Jon got right"
@@RobBCactive when the pistons actuate it vaporizes the gas which then ignites, as the liquid gasoline doesn't actually burn, it just evaporates fast enough that it appears to
The game does a few unique and interesting things with the storytelling mechanics that it introduces in this and the other chapters. It would be a lot to play through just for that if the first chapter didn't hook you in, though. Like your run at Journey, this game is perhaps one that's a lot harder to get immersed while creating a commentated LP.
Not surprised, given that he's not American. He's not familiar with the experiences that this game is playing on, the sort of weird liminal spaces that make up most of the highways of America.
@@lilbluecaboose I think it's more a problem of Jon over-analysing, but in the wrong way; trying to apply logic where clearly an experience outside of it is implied.
@@lilbluecaboose jon does this _a lot,_ he doesn't seem to be able to understand most things in games that aren't purely mechanical. if there is an aspect of metaphor in something jon immediately loses the plot almost every time. or plays it up for the camera, i guess
@@lilbluecaboose It's not just about being American. It went over my head too. I am in the densest state of the country. I'm not sure what the game is trying to be. It looks gorgeous though.
I was just here for the pronunciation of Kentucky after the Arkansas pronunciation of 6+ years ago. Only long time subs will get this. -A Kentuckian :D
KR0 is both unbearably pretentious and one of my favorite games of all time. In all seriousness, it's a game that brought me to tears more than once, but even I'm not sure I'd put it on my game of the year list.
Been eyeballing this game for years and finally got it when the last chapter was released. Instead of the PC I got it on the PS4. Interesting game but kinda petered out for me on the last chapter. There was also an intermission that just dragged on forever with no way of skipping it. Plus a few buggy things on the PS4. Kinda excited to see how you end up playing this ...
? Aren't the fuel, in liquid form, and air compressed and ignited converting it to an expanding gas? Even so, it's no justification for calling it gas station as it's definitely still liquid after you've bought it.
The game seems like the product of David Lynch visiting rural Appalachia but only going out at night to interact with people and then he wrote a script for a video game about his experience.
My favorite part is when Jon is questioning the guy not being off-put by a stranger entering his home at night... yeah you would definitely be murdered with a gun for that. Southern hospitality definitely exists in Kentucky but there’s a line
I think Jon is completely missing the point...the point of the game is that it's more like a dream world where everything is fractured and nonsensical but he never stops to look at it in anything more than practical terms like strictly getting from point A to point B and at the end of the video he just assumes the whole game must be some metaphor about something purely American because he doesn't get it. The point of the game isn't about power companies or rural America it's more about a "where is my mind" sort of thing where the game challenges you to stop focusing so much on the strict task of delivering a bloody TV or just getting to some place and ask yourself about what is really going on with your character who clearly seems to see ghosts and has a dog that may possibly be a ghost too as it looks extremely malnourished(all skin and bones....that dog is either dead or in urgent need of medical attention)....which brings the question about whether your character is dead and whether "route Zero" is the path to the afterlife or something. It's an extremely thought provocative game that completely flies over Jon's head entirely.
@@rifflerunderhill7006 It doesn't need an outside source to explain anything....the whole point is to make you stop and think about what is really going on in the game rather than just being a drone that only wants to go from point a to point b....something that Jon completely failed to do.
I dunno, that sounds like the same rationale by people who claim "banana duct taped to the wall" is one of the greatest art pieces ever made. Sure there's probably a deeper meaning derived from the visual and emotional responses, but I don't think enough incentive is actually given to try and figure it out. It's perfectly okay for people to say "it's not for me... moving on", no need for others to be pretentious just because they "get it"
For some reason this game reminded me of Night in the Woods, except it isn't that very similar. But the old decrepit town in decline gave a reminiscent vibe.
I grew up in rural PA, but this doesn't speak to me at all. The characters so far are all well educated people who are choosing to stay in places they could have easily left a long time ago. Which wasn't the case in the backroads of PA. People where uneducated, divorced from the reality around them and kept inviting outside companies to take advantage of the natural resources of the area. Instead of just forming their own companies and taking care of their own. Their downfall was always looking for an easy answer and not the correct answer. Refusing change, until it was forced onto them. Yes, the big corporations are responsible for plenty of hardships there but most of their problems are self-inflicted.
The lesson to take away kids, whatever it is you are studying in university will come useful one day, eventually, so study hard. And watch MATN if you feel tired between studies.
I live in rural America, and it seems to me that it's the city types that would regard our land, customs and people as not quite real. Maybe it could be that someone who lives in rural Kentucky might consider a bluegrass band in the middle of the wilderness at 3 am to be creepy instead of silly, but again it's probably the city types being spooked by someone who doesn't spend their 3am's crying into a latte.
Stopped watching partway through, which is rare on this channel. Every now and then, Jon plays a game and you can tell he's really not feeling it. Those videos aren't very fun in my experience.
Jon: * has degree in classics *
Also Jon: * doesn't take the opportunity to name his dog Homer *
Disappointing.
D'oh!
I was totally expecting him to name his dog Homer.
A degree in classics allows Jon to (1) say 'Latin for Horse', and (2) make purple. It does not allow him to appropriately name dogs.
@@billyhyde1415 naming dogs requires a Masters degree in Classics
To be fair, he specialises in Latin, not Greek
I'm American from Appalachia- the region of the game- and it does hit me hard. I don't think it's a great game, as there isn't much game to it, but it's an emotional story that reflects a lot of the history and reality of the area. So I was one of the folks who followed it as it came out. I can see why people wouldn't like it though.
That's good to hear - I thought I might be able to relate, because I do come from one of the old mining areas in the UK that went through bad times in the 80s and 90s, and some of which never recovered, which is why Landlord's Super really worked for me, but clearly it's a very distinct thing from what the game is alluding to in the US, as this just didn't speak to me in the same way.
@@ManyATrueNerd Yeah, it's definitely too niche to be a GOTY in my opinion, and Appalachia has a very unique culture.
I've commented on Kentucky Route Zero that you can create a entirely workable definition of what a game is that excludes KRZ, and I don't really mean that as a criticism. Just that it's a magnificent whatever it is, but that might not be a game.
@@charlesbaldwin3166 Summarized my thoughts perfectly.
I live in the deep south so this game hits me like a ton of brick and one of my favorites
Just based on that first part, and what I picked up second hand before watching this, is that this game fits very squarely into the American Gothic traditions, which do tend to be about rural and industrial decline. Mysterious or haunted highways in the middle of nowhere are also major features of the genre in more recent years. Things like highways that can only be found in the right circumstances that take you to ghost towns, both of which disappear in the morning or once you leave or turn from active and real to long-abandoned are staples of the genre. At least in more recent years; the literary tradition has been around for about as long as the country. Often these things are as much about the mood as anything. I think the game was trying to get across the feeling of driving around unfamiliar roads at night far from much of anything. It kind of reminded me of trying to find my way through backroads in Oregon at night when I got off an Exit Only freeway ramp and had to try finding my way back in the days before GPS.
I used to make the drive from Portland to Eugene fairly often, and having to pull off I5 to get gas anywhere between Salem and Eugene felt like this.
5:12 Your dog is a Bluetick Coonhound. The breed is named so because their black and white fur looks blue. Also thank you for playing this game, Kentucky rarely gets to be anything other than flyover country and it's nice to see a game that really captures my home state's essence.
Doesn't really look blue to me, now I'm wondering why it does to some people
We had one when I was a kid. Really nice, loving dog.
I think probably 90% of them are named Blue. Ours was. His brother was brown, I forget his name.
Let me just say as someone who lives in Kentucky just off of Interstate sixty-five, there are exactly zero giant horse head Art Deco gas stations around here but the dogs wearing straw hats bit is spot on.
As someone who also lives in Kentucky, I was pleasantly surprised at the fact that the map was an actual accurate road map, right down to having Mammoth Cave NP on it.
3:19 The turntable, the road map earlier, the _Zero_ itself... most of the paths in this game are entirely optional, and it's up to you, as the player, whether you want to explore them or not...
You may be interested to know that many gas stations in the US do in fact also sell or refill propane gas canisters for use in cooking grills and the like. And if we want to stretch further, many also have air pumps available for use to refill tires. So there's a decent argument to be made that gas stations here are in fact accurately named.
I would now like a car that runs exclusively on propane.
@@ManyATrueNerd they do exist. Usually they're also able to run on gas/petrol
@@ManyATrueNerd *Hank Hill liked that.*
@@ManyATrueNerd gasoline burns best when vaporized, specifically because it's the gaseous fumes that actually burn... The actual liquid state wouldn't actually readily ignite if it werent for the vapors... So... You're wrong, as usual.
Both forms are slang anyway; they are filling stations.
I'm American and most of my family is from the Kentucky/Ohio/West Virginia area. The only thing about this that you didn't get that seemed perfectly fine to me was the people playing music by a barn at 3 am. When you live in the middle of nowhere and there's nothing to do you get drunk and play music and 3 am and old barns are pretty much everywhere, so that seems fine to me. Otherwise I think I feel the same way you do about people going back and playing the other chapter.
Oh, and I assume the drawing of the little girl in the miner's hat wasn't about children working in the mine but rather one of the Marquez children wearing a hat. If their families were running the mine or mining it's not surprise the children would have been around it.
Jon, I was answering each question you asked in the video with "Well, yes and no." or "Both." I am a native KY and this game captures "Kentucky" SO WELL. I was also one those who stuck with the game for those 7 long years. I quite enjoyed you're mystification to it, and while I hope to see you play through the rest of the game, I would totally understand if you didn't. It's not much in the way of gameplay, but VERY MUCH in the way of metaphor.
I'm really digging the mysterious surreal mood of the game.
While Jon may not appreciate, or be able to comprehend the style the game is going for, I think I'd really like it.
"this might be the sort of game with METAPHORS" oh, dear...
With Jon complaining about the dog stealing his car I'm not sure he noticed the sign KY 0. Congrats you accidentally found Kentucky Route Zero.
To be honest with his -1 Perception there's a good chance he wouldn't have noticed it even without that dog going GTA.
Yeah It was one of those moments where I'm facepalming so hard at the same time I'm laughing about the dog
Im so happy to see you play this, its one of my all time favourites
You can get propane at most gas stations. So it still counts
But how many of those same stations will sell you propane accessories to dress your propane up?
Does propane count as a gas when it's compressed into a liquid to be sold though?
Pro-pane and pro-pane accessories
They're filled with liquid unless they're empty
@@jacobarcher1097 Nope. This imposter American Jon is both pedantic and wrong!
As someone who appreciates wordplay, I'm betting Jon would like the state motto of Kentucky (home of the Derby and Rye Whisky), which is "Unbridled Spirit". It brings me so much joy.
As a person who has lived in Kentucky for most of their life, I never realized that. That's clever.
What? There's nothing coming out in January ... what about Hitman 3? ;)
you need at least 2 months more to figure out, which of the 300 different versions has which dlc, season pass, extra misions ......
@@5Andysalive Hitman 3 only has two versions. One standard and one deluxe. Thankfully they aren't doing the same mess they did last time.
@@RevanFan what do you mean last time? Hitman 2 had the 'goty legacy pack' with wich you could play the first games lvls and the 'expansion pass' wich expanded (it's in the game) Hitman 2... so pretty easy isn't it?
@@proudbandito That's now. They cut it back. Originally there was the Standard Edition, Gold Edition, Silver Edition, Collector's Edition, Expansion Pass, GOTY Legacy Pack, GOTY Legacy Pack Upgrade, Collector's Pack, and I think a few more things. There were literally guides helping people see what each version and package had.
@@RevanFan damn gold AND silver edition xD Yea now that you say that I think I remember all of those things.
Holy shiiiiiitttt I never thought I'd see you play this!!
Why are you playing all my favorite games lately? ck3, rimworld, and now KR0! I fucking love you man!!
Nobody tell Jon what matter state gasoline is in when it combusts inside an engine.
Before it actually combusts, it's a fine mist of liquid suspended in compressed air, so still not a gas.
An empty tank has vapour in it, won't get you far
@@jondorthebrinkinator The gasoline is atomized, emulsified to form the "liquid suspended in compressed air", then decompressed to turn that gasoline into a vapor that will be burnt. Turning it into a fine mist makes that phase change happen more efficiently.
So you buy it in that state on a gas station?
Sounds pretty dangerous to me.
@@5Andysalive Homonyms are completely legitimate parts of language so it doesn't really matter what is, it's gas because that's one the meanings of the multiple meanings of gas. Another being to "have a gas" as in have a good time. To add to that, both liquified natural gas and liquified petroleum gas still use the word gas despite their phase, because their storage is not the intended state of use. The gas in gasoline is from the phase of matter gas. But the entire thing is a silly argument from people not liking that different people use different words. Both petrol and gas are valid words.
jon you’re doing it to me again. you play a game i go no i can’t keep watching this i need to buy the game and play it myself. i’m gonna cry all of 30 minutes into this for some reason probably because it’s relatable. the first time was with GRIS and i can’t begin to describe how much i felt through it
Man you missed soooo much content in act 1, all optional side play of course but still it was amazing how quick you made it to the mine lmao
I'm glad to hear that, because I was intrigued and just dandy with the meta narrative and general creepifying but could not imagine becoming hooked by a playtime that felt shorter than a demo as 20% of a 7 year production.
@@scoutobrien3406 yeah it was a super condensed version even of the main story line - it's definitely worth going to the bait shop to find the cousin but beyond that the map has so many little side stories and people to meet sprinkled around. It's still not super long but at the very least more than double what we saw.
Ah the long journey to 5 Dogwood Drive, it feels nostalgic to see its beginning again
Did Jon notice the basement of the gas station (not petrol) is the horse's body?
An episode of shouting "JON! JUST PLAY THE DAMN GAME! Quit trying to guess ahead!" You can always tell when Jon isn't going to like a game....his snide tone comes out pretty quick. Go back and look at his library...if he didn't like it...he's snide within the first 3 minutes. LOL
A game that develops as slow as star citizen. Never thought I'd see the day xD
Unless the progress literally goes backwards, it's not developing as slow :P
Middle of the night, jamming in a ruined barn... that is the ideal location for a bluegrass band. If this was real life, you should walk over there with a guitar and a glass bottle (to share) and listen to them play. They'll probably blow you away.
"It's January so nothings gonna come out a month or two".... H... Hitman 3 tho
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Jon, have you ever heard of the game "Kona". It's a first person horror about a man getting lost in a haunted Blizzard in Quebec. Very spooky, and you get to drive a pick-up truck.
Oh, I remember playing that one a while ago. Phenomenal game!
It's very good. But it's hardly "Horror".
@@5Andysalive Supernatural murder mystery survival thriller is too wordy.
@@5Andysalive It's horror done right.
Love the content, Jon - you’re fantastic, and so is Claire!
Lovely to see someone going through the same "WTF?" I did.......😂
I really like that the map is an actual stretch of highway in Kentucky east of Bowling Green.
Usually Jon describes what's on screen with enough detail I don't have to look at the video. With this one however it sounded like he was having a stroke
Jon feels the same way about Gasoline being called Gas as I do about Mathematics being called Maths. It's singular, Math, not plural, and the youtube spellchecker agrees with me.
You're not doing a Mathematic, you're doing Mathematics. Hence the s.
@@19peter96"The usual argument goes that mathematics is plural because it ends in an -s, so maths should be its abbreviation. The problem is that, while it ends in an -s, mathematics is a mass noun and usually takes a singular verb (e.g.,
Mathematics is my best subject”)."
Mass nouns are singular.
Examples of Mass Nouns.
Mass Noun - Attempt At Making It Plural
furniture - four furnitures
lumber - four lumbers
gold - four golds
If anything, calling it a petrol station is a *worse* over-simplification because petrol could refer to a wide range of oil products and byproducts.
No. Petrol is just the fuel. You're thinking of petroleum (which is different).
They sell mineral oil and lpg too. If you're buying gas, you're asking for an empty tank!
@@x-yl Are you sure?
"The word petroleum has been around for much longer than the first cars. Indeed it can be traced in that form to 14th century France, and so shortening this to simply 'petrol' meant a modern name for an ancient product."
And from National Geographic Society:
"What is petrol also called?
Petroleum, also called crude oil, is a fossil fuel. ... Coal, natural gas, and petroleum are all fossil fuels that formed under similar conditions."
Jon, internal combustion engines run on great heaps of air mixed with aerosolized gasoline. The liquid form is just really handy for transport and it's a lot less explodey. Gasoline burns, gasoline vapors explode.
I'm from this part of Kentucky. It makes me weirdly happy to see Jon navigate these roads.
Once again, Jon forgets to play a game and just analyzes it to death
'This is going to be a weird one'
Several Minutes Later
'Why isn't this logical and clearcut, this scenario is unrealistic'
What do you mean play? There's no game. It's just a linear route with non-story-changing decisions that result in minor dialogue differences. It's an art house movie, not meant to entertain, but to make other art house patrons squint their eyes a little, turn their head at a certain 18 degree angle and nod their head. "Ah Yes," *Quiet golf clap indistinguishable from sarcastic clap* "very droll, well done. Have you seen the newest work by P. Retentious? Yes, it's a little one man show about rebirth and forgiveness, and - get this - the main character is the bus driver in the game Desert Bus. No? Haven't seen it? Well, clearly someone has to keep the masses entertained, we can't have everyone appreciating high art, ah, I kid darling, but do go see it or we simply cannot be seen together."
The creators of this game obviously created this game specifically for people to analyze it to death. They probably need to see it happening or they can't reach a climax or something.
Thanks to Jon, they're gonna have a little priapic ceremony and just in time too, since the creators haven't been turgid since late January 2020, when they released the last chapter to a wave of adulation.
I know, I'm being meaner than this play really merits. I just don't tend to like art house effluent.
I enjoy his playthroughs but geez was this one painful. Just shut the hell up already, we get it it’s weird 😂
@@pdughi You want pretentious go watch Observer, that game was done for circle pleasuring with other devs. This is more of a game for Kentuckians.
And most games nowadays only give you the illusion of choice anyway.
I disagree. It seemed like a game where you do have to analyze things. Especially after the computer at the gas station part.
i don't think jon understands metaphor, and his being put off by the most comfy things ever is kinda funny
What metaphor exactly?
Damn. I thought the name was a play on words and this was going to be the KFConsole
Jon, if you do a series of this game, I’m definitly watching it!
love it man always good to see you never been this early
Oh wow, I seem to remember this first scene being played in another video. How strange to see something unknown yet familiar.
Well done Jon, you got approximately 23 minutes further into it than I did... don't get me wrong, I love me a bit of Raylan Givens and walking out of a holler with Tillie Helton growing tobacco by the Big Richland River while fire in the hole etc. but man, this game was just a pretentious drag from start to premature finish, I've honestly seldom felt less inclined to find out "what happened next" (and that includes Cultist bloody Simulator).
I will make a deal with you Jon if you convince British people to stop calling fries chips then I will try to convince Americans to stop calling petrol gas.
As a rural American, I get some of the references, but Jon got all of them too. There are old mines in some places, there are old gas (or ‘petrol’ depending on if you’re British or 70 years old and also southern) stations
But this all being said, all in all, it was still weird, I am not particularly spoken to with this, it was just weird. Though maybe weird enough for me to think ‘alright, sure I will check out the next chapter to see what the heck is goin on!
....Jon has multi thousand pound/hours invested in studying a classics degree......"Look a horse!!!....called it"
Well done Jon, now can you tell us what noise the cow makes? ....lol
this is super giving me twilight zone vibes, now i see why its so highly loved, seems like a hipster's dream game, play it more please
Gasoline is named after the flammable vapor (gas) it produces, which is the useful part of the substance in nearly every instance. So there is a reason why it is called that, even if it can be confusing, though frankly all the names for the stuff are confusing if you think about them for a second.
I love this, please play some more! Weird surreal ghosties are my jam
That string instrument seems big enough to be a contrabas(double bass) I think.
19:10 How do you "borrow" a dog treat?
It's not really a game made for videos. I'd say spend a few more hours with it just exploring in that first chapter and let the ambiance wash over you. It's a very solitary and reserved experience and kind of needs to be played alone (without an audience). It may still work for you yet
Perfectly put. I think KR0 is a game great for video essays and analysis, but not the best for a Let's Play-ish experience. I can't imagine playing it for, or even with, someone else. It is truly a memorable experience like no other, though.
Okay, I'll accept that "its not a gas" concept for not calling "gas stations"...However, if we are sticking with JUST the vehicle idea here lets discuss the two typical bullshit terms used by Britts/Aussies. "Boot" and "Bonnet".
The box at the back of the car, has a lid, that locks, and happens to function like what was once strapped to the back of cars when they were first being produced, what was that thing called? Oh yeah, a TRUNK. Boots are on your feet, the thing that touches the ground, if anything should be called a "boot" its the tires of the car. You don't randomly store stuff in your boots, nor do you put your feet in the trunk of your car (a whole person with feet maybe, but not just feet).
Bonnets go on your head, the engine cavity of the car isn't the tallest part of the car, that would typically be the roof above the place where your head happens to be when you are sitting in it, therefor a bonnet would be more appropriate to call the roof of the car and not the thing covering the engine (more closely though to be the heart of a car not the brain). While "hood" also does have a reference to a head covering it is a covering that is hinged back, like how a car hood works, but it is also a term used as a covering to mechanical parts as well as things that tend to give off smoke or fluids. A bonnet is just a silly hat.
Thats a bobby pin! Fallout will continue to feature heavily on this channel: confirmed.
Man you're crazy. Jon would absolutely hate Fallout. Not his style AT ALL. that's like asking him to play Rome Total War because he has a degree in ancient history.
😂😂😂
25:42 - _"Ooh, I'm not sure she exists anymore by the way... I feel like um, that woman might just sort of, not exist... Does she exist? Does anyone exist?"_
Yeah... Jon? Her car was gone from the driveway, I assume that because you chose not to find her cousin to repair the TV, she just went herself instead.
Nothing spooky or supernatural, just a woman who decided to leave you alone in her house, presumably thinking your character was too brain-dead to steal anything.
What about the three people below the gas station?
@@jeffextreme5498 I was specifically referring to Weaver Marquez.
@@Foxtrot369 The reason he thought she disappeared was because of the three people he saw earlier.
52 minutes (edited down from more) should be enough for any game to make some sense.
Jon, I don't think it's so generally an American thing as it is specifically a Kentucky/Appalachia thing. The coal country of Kentucky, specifically, is a haunted place, and this is clearly a haunted game, governed by dream logic, which doesn't seem to agree with you all that well. For some specific Kentucky pop culture context, maybe have a look at the TV show "Justified" (which is worth spending some time with anyway, because it's kinda great), and/or just mainline it a bit by listening to Patty Loveless singing "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive".
Fun fact Jon, gasoline is in fact a gas when its actually used by your car, so abbreviating it to gas isn't as deceptive as you'd think!
An empty tank is full of gas, the engine pumps and injects a liquid or has the fuel evaporate in a carburettor, which if you Google the meaning, specifically tells you the fuel is liquid.
Today was "Things Jon got right"
@@RobBCactive when the pistons actuate it vaporizes the gas which then ignites, as the liquid gasoline doesn't actually burn, it just evaporates fast enough that it appears to
The game does a few unique and interesting things with the storytelling mechanics that it introduces in this and the other chapters. It would be a lot to play through just for that if the first chapter didn't hook you in, though. Like your run at Journey, this game is perhaps one that's a lot harder to get immersed while creating a commentated LP.
The game kinda went over Jons head tbh
Not surprised, given that he's not American. He's not familiar with the experiences that this game is playing on, the sort of weird liminal spaces that make up most of the highways of America.
@@lilbluecaboose I think it's more a problem of Jon over-analysing, but in the wrong way; trying to apply logic where clearly an experience outside of it is implied.
@@lilbluecaboose jon does this _a lot,_ he doesn't seem to be able to understand most things in games that aren't purely mechanical. if there is an aspect of metaphor in something jon immediately loses the plot almost every time.
or plays it up for the camera, i guess
@@lilbluecaboose It's not just about being American. It went over my head too. I am in the densest state of the country. I'm not sure what the game is trying to be. It looks gorgeous though.
I was just here for the pronunciation of Kentucky after the Arkansas pronunciation of 6+ years ago. Only long time subs will get this. -A Kentuckian :D
Hey I live in Kentucky too!
-Also a long time sub
Hello fellow Kentuckians
I dub us
Many A True Kentuckians
😂
There is *nothing* wrong with the pronunciation "Ark-an-sass" - Love someone from Jon's hometown (Leicester) ;)
@@theluckyaceco Jon's from leicester? I thought he only went to uni there
26:49 rural amareica is just kinda like that
Cheers from Kentucky bud thank you
I wasn't sure about it at the beginning but I have to say it sucked me in. I may just have to check this one out.
Jon, have u looked at game Battle Brothers? I think u would like it
I mean, it's basically 2D Mount and Blade, so definitely.
@@o-mangaming5042 yeah, Im honestly surprised it wasn't featured on this channel yet
22:04 Isn't that the plot of Rango?
damn, that's pretty neat! it's very much like NITW but also real surreal
You know what Jon, fair point about 'gas', I hadn't realized just how ridiculous that naming scheme is until you mentioned it.
But it's not. The liquid form of gasoline is only for storage, it's turned back into gas form shortly before it's ignited.
@@Tuulos That's completely illogical, is water a gas because it may be converted into a gaseous form? No.
Your statement is nonsense.
Jon, you should've gone to Cambridge.
KR0 is both unbearably pretentious and one of my favorite games of all time. In all seriousness, it's a game that brought me to tears more than once, but even I'm not sure I'd put it on my game of the year list.
Been eyeballing this game for years and finally got it when the last chapter was released. Instead of the PC I got it on the PS4. Interesting game but kinda petered out for me on the last chapter. There was also an intermission that just dragged on forever with no way of skipping it. Plus a few buggy things on the PS4. Kinda excited to see how you end up playing this ...
@MATN: The combustible part of what you call "Petrol" is the fumes or what we call "Gas".
I recently saw it on the PS store, what a coincidence.
Jon Gasoline is transported and pumped as a liquid but it is the gaseous form that is combusted.
?
Aren't the fuel, in liquid form, and air compressed and ignited converting it to an expanding gas?
Even so, it's no justification for calling it gas station as it's definitely still liquid after you've bought it.
This feels like a game made by David lynch.
Am from Kentucky AMA
Is this game an accurate representation of Kentucky...?
The game seems like the product of David Lynch visiting rural Appalachia but only going out at night to interact with people and then he wrote a script for a video game about his experience.
My favorite part is when Jon is questioning the guy not being off-put by a stranger entering his home at night... yeah you would definitely be murdered with a gun for that. Southern hospitality definitely exists in Kentucky but there’s a line
My dude. Kentucky bros
Me and you and a dog named blue
Not sure about the dates, but this seems similar to a much better game, This War of Mine.
Give us more rimworld!
I think Jon is completely missing the point...the point of the game is that it's more like a dream world where everything is fractured and nonsensical but he never stops to look at it in anything more than practical terms like strictly getting from point A to point B and at the end of the video he just assumes the whole game must be some metaphor about something purely American because he doesn't get it. The point of the game isn't about power companies or rural America it's more about a "where is my mind" sort of thing where the game challenges you to stop focusing so much on the strict task of delivering a bloody TV or just getting to some place and ask yourself about what is really going on with your character who clearly seems to see ghosts and has a dog that may possibly be a ghost too as it looks extremely malnourished(all skin and bones....that dog is either dead or in urgent need of medical attention)....which brings the question about whether your character is dead and whether "route Zero" is the path to the afterlife or something. It's an extremely thought provocative game that completely flies over Jon's head entirely.
Jon isn't stupid, and the experience didn't succeed in telling him that.
If a media product needs an outside source to explain it's main narrative, it failed to deliver that narrative. Full stop.
@@rifflerunderhill7006 It doesn't need an outside source to explain anything....the whole point is to make you stop and think about what is really going on in the game rather than just being a drone that only wants to go from point a to point b....something that Jon completely failed to do.
I dunno, that sounds like the same rationale by people who claim "banana duct taped to the wall" is one of the greatest art pieces ever made. Sure there's probably a deeper meaning derived from the visual and emotional responses, but I don't think enough incentive is actually given to try and figure it out. It's perfectly okay for people to say "it's not for me... moving on", no need for others to be pretentious just because they "get it"
It was a tad too cryptic for me.
You still need to take a look at Star Renegades, made by the same people who did Halcyon 6.
The dog is probably a she because you didn't pick Joseph for the name.
The choices were:
His name is Homer
Her name is Blue
It's just some dog
For some reason this game reminded me of Night in the Woods, except it isn't that very similar. But the old decrepit town in decline gave a reminiscent vibe.
If you want a game that's really weird, play Paratopic. It's pretty good!
3:10
Tell ya what once we've sorted out the litany of other problems that plague our country, we'll give it a good honest think.
I grew up in rural PA, but this doesn't speak to me at all. The characters so far are all well educated people who are choosing to stay in places they could have easily left a long time ago. Which wasn't the case in the backroads of PA. People where uneducated, divorced from the reality around them and kept inviting outside companies to take advantage of the natural resources of the area. Instead of just forming their own companies and taking care of their own. Their downfall was always looking for an easy answer and not the correct answer. Refusing change, until it was forced onto them. Yes, the big corporations are responsible for plenty of hardships there but most of their problems are self-inflicted.
Day 236 of requesting Zoo Tycoon. I feel like this kind of horrifying nightmare undertone is expected by this point
...oddly enough, I'm an American who often uses the term 'Petrol,' likely from years of watching Top Gear (on RUclips.)
So Kingdom Come Deliverance next??
I expect this game to go a bit Lovecraftian.
This is interesting
They sell propane at gas stations
The lesson to take away kids, whatever it is you are studying in university will come useful one day, eventually, so study hard.
And watch MATN if you feel tired between studies.
I live in rural America, and it seems to me that it's the city types that would regard our land, customs and people as not quite real. Maybe it could be that someone who lives in rural Kentucky might consider a bluegrass band in the middle of the wilderness at 3 am to be creepy instead of silly, but again it's probably the city types being spooked by someone who doesn't spend their 3am's crying into a latte.
Win the war to pick the language
Stopped watching partway through, which is rare on this channel. Every now and then, Jon plays a game and you can tell he's really not feeling it. Those videos aren't very fun in my experience.
Gas is a liquid.
Happy NEW YEAR!!!
ok Its January the 2nd, but i um i have no reason for wishing everyone a happy new year late. So, um, yeah, FOXES!!!
(Hugs!)
21 likes fitting for 2021
I’ll be honest, I’m a few seconds into the start of act 1 and this is seeming to not be my thing.
i'm an american and from what i've seen i don't get it either.