If you want to see more Amazon insects and animals it's worth checking out Mark's channel: www.youtube.com/@aFieldBiologist I also want to use a pinned comment to thank camera-person Alex and producer Nicole for trudging into the rainforest with me to make videos. One of them got peed on by a monkey.
Mathematics is definitely a science in the sense of a systematic and formulated knowledge~proofs can be tested and found to be true, then one day an exception is found and the proof no longer valid-how is that any different than an experiment done in a lab needing repeated success to be considered valid?
No joke, there was a physics professor at the university I was studying that at some point anounced he discovered a new particle. He even gave it his name... Turns out it was just the electron... lol
I’m a student at the university of Guelph in Canada and just yesterday I took a tour of the DNA barcoding facility mentioned at 4:19. Very fascinating place!
Except the moths don't gaf, it's all made up anyway, they all existed for millions of years whether we give an arbitrarily designated genetic clustering of them an arbitrary name or not
My child loves the section of the mathematical animals. He has to watch that section every night before he goes to sleep now. He has memorized it and recites it word for word along with you.
There was a guy a while ago who placed nets under trees and sprayed them with pesticides. Apparently he found new species from every single tree he sprayed. Obviously awful to the organisms in the trees but it’s a pretty interesting experiment.
@@allergiccookies6735 That study was done by an international team of researchers at the Smithsonian tropical research institute in Panama, back in 2012. I believe the paper was called "Arthropod diversity in a tropical rainforest".
I mean this is just completely needless, I've observed dozens of awesome rare species in shitty urban habitats with nothing but my eyes and a phone camera, and I've never hurt a single one If you wanna go crazy, get some blacklights or other bug-attracting lights and a white sheet (like what they do here). Or look up other ways to attract bugs. You will get way more than with pesticide, and bugs are much prettier alive and moving anyway. Also, to be clear, when you say "new species", you mean different species from the ones in other trees, right? Not new to science, surely, unless this guy is spraying trees in a remote New Guinean cloud forest. I saw over 100 species of animal and plant I'd never seen before in the span of a month or so last year, and I didn't kill a single one
Love it! Ya know, I think I'd really enjoy some sort of travel show with Matt Parker.. maybe call it _Maths in Strange Places_ or something like that. He'd talk about some math that's local to the area in some capacity.. maybe talk about the contribution of any of history's mathematicians that lived there too! I'm imagining it like _An Idiot Abroad,_ except with more math... and less Ricky Gervais.
2:12 i love this gag cuz I (and im sure most others) completely expected the immediate cut to a nighttime shot. Heck i was actually just listening (not watching) the video and immediately thought the video had transitioned in true Parker fashion, but alas he was 2 steps ahead😂
Glad you finally noticed the typo in your channel name, accidentally putting an "a" instead of an "o". We didn't want to embarrass you by bringing it up.
This is the trick they missed in Jurassic Park. Goldblum as the statistician could have crunched the numbers on the subtle shifts in the DNA samples over time and drawn a formula and big rarification curve on the wall and looked really scared. And proved to them it was dangerous with just math. They call the army and Nuke the island and no one dies. . . Except the mutant Dinos.
isn't that exactly what happens in the book though? well, maybe not literally exactly, but he really does do some serious maths in it and they even blow up the island after.
@@peterstangl8295 the character in the book relies heavily on Chaos Theory, it's a huge plot point throughout the whole book. not rarefaction curves exactly, but pretty similar stuff from a narrative perspective.
Yes, because business owners, government officials and military personnel (in fiction or otherwise) are well-known for listening to mathematicians telling them uncomfortable truths...
Love it! It's so rare to find stuff on RUclips that discusses pollinator biodiversity at this level, especially including some of the actual techniques used in the field - and for such an underrepresented group of pollinators too!
what is that moth wall?? is it some special material that moths love? or is it in a spot where there are so many moths, all you need is a flat wall for scooping them into a jar?
The moths are attracted to the light. So they put out a bright light and a white sheet that helps make it very visible. As they also show in the video, one can use pheromones (smell) to attract them. Different species have different preferences.
I thought moths fly in circles around a light not because they are attracted to it, but because they use the moon to navigate. The artificial light screws up their sense of direction i.e. they think they're flying in a straight line by keeping the light (usually the moon) in the same direction, but if the light is close then they just end up flying in circles. Perhaps the big white sheet confuses them, like a jamming signal, so they stop for a rest.
Just to add to that... I just realized that if a moth was trying to keep the light at an angle less than 90 degrees away from straight ahead, it would spiral in towards it. Conversely, if it was trying to keep the light at an angle greater than 90 degrees away from straight ahead, it would spiral away from it. So if all the moths were trying to fly a straight line in random directions, half of them would end up getting closer to the light, and the other half further away. Unless of course the light actually was the moon, in which case the distance is so great they'd be flying in a straight line.
At 9:23 you made me think about prime numbers (density and distribution). Hours of rabbit holes later, I'm back to finish the video. I hope you're happy.
RUclips: So here's this new vid- Me: "Moths? sounds a bit boring for me." RUclips: ... "It's a Matt Parker Video" Me: "Moths?! How fascinating. I'm in!"
What I find an interesting question is; if you took two moths that the most closely resembled each other out of the gigantic number of moth species that have been discovered, how small would that difference be?
Rarefaction analysis is so cool (using it myself in archaeological studies), so happy with this video! Also, was this the first R plot I have seen on this channel? iNext package? I prefer vegan (cool name, cool package)
Gotta love the name, ironic thing to come up on a video about mass moth slaughter. I think archaeogenetics is fascinating but I won't pretend to know anything about the software exactly. If you study archaeogenetics though, that is insanely cool
This video reminded me of my fieldwork courses at university, doing the same mathematics for species estimates on grassland, also did a year abroad at Guelph where I did a module on entomology
Petition to name the next moth [genus] Mothy McMothface. 'mothy' would be the species name, 'McMothface' will be the subspecies even though it is not the conventional nomenclature for the holotype specimen.
This is nice, but I miss the old Stand-Up Maths who would have actually gone into the mathematics of the rarefaction curves and how that model is derived from the underlying assumptions. Cheerleading things that involve maths is nice, but I much prefer when Matt actually goes into the maths (recreational or academic). Sadly, that's becoming ever rarer... This video didn't include any more maths that it's title. The last one talked about an equation but didn't do anything mathematical with it. Before that there's a few about shapes being used in the architecture or decorations. I think "All Convex Polyhedra" from 6 months ago is the most recent video that actually does some maths, rather than talking about other people who did maths.
Does the ring-tailed ring commute? Did you do fieldwork, or just non-commutative division ringwork? Is the artificial macaw nest for Ara manilata? I looked up Ara in Wikipedia and didn't find such a species.
A short time ago, a genetic fluke happened and a moth was born which would have gone on to breed a whole new species of moth. This moth saw a light, went to the light, and was scooped up by a mathematician.
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If you want to see more Amazon insects and animals it's worth checking out Mark's channel: www.youtube.com/@aFieldBiologist
I also want to use a pinned comment to thank camera-person Alex and producer Nicole for trudging into the rainforest with me to make videos. One of them got peed on by a monkey.
You do realise that Mathematics is not a science?
Mathematics is definitely a science in the sense of a systematic and formulated knowledge~proofs can be tested and found to be true, then one day an exception is found and the proof no longer valid-how is that any different than an experiment done in a lab needing repeated success to be considered valid?
Much love to you and the support crew =D
which one
which one?
My prediction before watching: he discovers a moth that turns out to be almost a new moth
My prediction is he discovers a subspecies, which is almost discovering a species
Spot on haha
And almost certainly square-shaped
The Parker Moth would have to be some sort of mimic. A non-moth moth.
No joke, there was a physics professor at the university I was studying that at some point anounced he discovered a new particle. He even gave it his name...
Turns out it was just the electron... lol
I think a Parker Moth would actually be a butterfly
I had the same thought.
If it is in fact a moth it needs to be called Parker Butterfly.
Aren't all butterflies moths?
Or a small horse.
Moth Parker
Incredible that Matt flew all the way to the Amazon rainforest just to make a math/moth pun. That's dedication to the craft.
The animations were absolutely adorable, shout-out to the animator!
If I were to discover an ultra-rare species of anything, I'd name it "common".
I'd name it "butt". That's the difference between you and me.
Common sparkling tibetan giraffe
Mothew Parker is still out there. Taunting us.
I’m a student at the university of Guelph in Canada and just yesterday I took a tour of the DNA barcoding facility mentioned at 4:19. Very fascinating place!
How cool! I'll be staying there for a month this year to do insect barcoding!
Fellow Guelphite! So cool to hear my home town mentioned.
Imagine being a moth and your species is finally named, and you're named the Parker Moth
Even worse, your namesake is a square
A moth that isnt quite a moth but close enough
@@The_Omegaman But it really gave it a go, and that's what matters.
Except the moths don't gaf, it's all made up anyway, they all existed for millions of years whether we give an arbitrarily designated genetic clustering of them an arbitrary name or not
If I was a moth I would hide if I knew that could happen.
My child loves the section of the mathematical animals. He has to watch that section every night before he goes to sleep now. He has memorized it and recites it word for word along with you.
So, Matt isn't content with having a square named after him, now he needs the Parker Moth, which is probably an almost-but-not-quite-perfect moth.
Would be funny if it were called something like Lepidoptera Parkersquarii. XD
We must preserve rare new species!
Oh, how did you preserve it?
Drowned it in alcohol.
I mean, this is how I hope to preserve myself. 50/50 so far on if its working 👍
I like how the very scientific method for collecting moths is "hang up a light and a bedsheet".
Being "smothed" if you will-- you know every moth turned and looked at him and just rolled their eyes before flapping away to giggle somewhere xD
Matt: I had to chug...
Me: Moths?! 😮
Matt: ...Water.
Could you do a follow up on the theory behind rarefaction curves? This was a fun trip to the jungle, but left me hungry for some maths!
More maths please! If we get more moths too, that's just gravy.
A long way to travel to use that pun.. You have my respect and admiration.
Moths are really cool. I am excited to see a new one, good luck.
It was very nice to see a video here out of Australia - England - USA. Congrats for taking the show to new places!
There was a guy a while ago who placed nets under trees and sprayed them with pesticides. Apparently he found new species from every single tree he sprayed.
Obviously awful to the organisms in the trees but it’s a pretty interesting experiment.
was this in a paper? is there some link you'd be able to find to it?
@@allergiccookies6735 That study was done by an international team of researchers at the Smithsonian tropical research institute in Panama, back in 2012. I believe the paper was called "Arthropod diversity in a tropical rainforest".
@@allergiccookies6735 Search Terry Erwin. The first result in Google Images is him spraying.
I mean this is just completely needless, I've observed dozens of awesome rare species in shitty urban habitats with nothing but my eyes and a phone camera, and I've never hurt a single one
If you wanna go crazy, get some blacklights or other bug-attracting lights and a white sheet (like what they do here). Or look up other ways to attract bugs. You will get way more than with pesticide, and bugs are much prettier alive and moving anyway.
Also, to be clear, when you say "new species", you mean different species from the ones in other trees, right? Not new to science, surely, unless this guy is spraying trees in a remote New Guinean cloud forest. I saw over 100 species of animal and plant I'd never seen before in the span of a month or so last year, and I didn't kill a single one
You said "the *middle* of the Amazon rainforest" which got me wondering... where IS the middle of the Amazon rainforest? How would you determine that?
1:55 "...using mathematics that no human has ever seen"
That's what we are here for! 😉
Moth Parker is back at it with another great Stand Up Moths video!
some of the clips in this are beautiful!
This is great. Something I never really thought about much. Definitely as hard as I imagined to keep track of all these creatures.
Matt tries to actually *find* the moth that he has proven the existence of. I suspect that he is an applied mothematician rather than pure.
Omg moth heaven! I want that many moths dancing around me 🥺
Love it!
Ya know, I think I'd really enjoy some sort of travel show with Matt Parker.. maybe call it _Maths in Strange Places_ or something like that. He'd talk about some math that's local to the area in some capacity.. maybe talk about the contribution of any of history's mathematicians that lived there too! I'm imagining it like _An Idiot Abroad,_ except with more math... and less Ricky Gervais.
16:47 That's the most beautiful insect I ever saw.
It's weird that in that hypothetical habitat, there wasn't a single square-shaped animal with a number pattern.
That was way more interesting than I thought it would be.
Eupseudosoma larissa, also known as the Parker Moth, is a species of moths first described in 1890.
Well, there you have it.
So you're saying Matt is a lot older than we thought.
I love "happy-looking crocodiles" as a description of caimans
12:52 Matt tries to not retell Steamed Hams. "At this time of year, in this part of the country..."
That research center looks incredible. My office is certainly nowhere near as idyllic as that roofed terrace in the pouring rain :)
2:12 i love this gag cuz I (and im sure most others) completely expected the immediate cut to a nighttime shot.
Heck i was actually just listening (not watching) the video and immediately thought the video had transitioned in true Parker fashion, but alas he was 2 steps ahead😂
yo, shoutout to the University of Guelph. Pretty cool hearing your home town mentioned in a youtube video about moths in Peru.
Glad you finally noticed the typo in your channel name, accidentally putting an "a" instead of an "o". We didn't want to embarrass you by bringing it up.
True! I've been a huge fan of stondupmaths for a while now but the typo has always irked me..
Lol
Strange that Mott would leave a mistake like that unnoticed.
Omg that was trippy, I didn’t expect my uni to be mentioned (Guelph)
This is the trick they missed in Jurassic Park. Goldblum as the statistician could have crunched the numbers on the subtle shifts in the DNA samples over time and drawn a formula and big rarification curve on the wall and looked really scared. And proved to them it was dangerous with just math. They call the army and Nuke the island and no one dies. . . Except the mutant Dinos.
isn't that exactly what happens in the book though?
well, maybe not literally exactly, but he really does do some serious maths in it and they even blow up the island after.
@@peterstangl8295 the character in the book relies heavily on Chaos Theory, it's a huge plot point throughout the whole book. not rarefaction curves exactly, but pretty similar stuff from a narrative perspective.
That's the movie, that would have crashed 1993s box office…
Yes, because business owners, government officials and military personnel (in fiction or otherwise) are well-known for listening to mathematicians telling them uncomfortable truths...
@@EarMaster55 But it would be remembered as a misunderstood cult classic among the key filmgoing demographic of math nerds.
Less than a min from publish and I am already watching
Love it! It's so rare to find stuff on RUclips that discusses pollinator biodiversity at this level, especially including some of the actual techniques used in the field - and for such an underrepresented group of pollinators too!
The fact this and true facts both had butterfly/moth videos so close together
Really excellent video!
The helmet with the camera on top makes Matt look like a Roman in an Asterix comic.
Finding a moth and thinking it's new just to be told it's not is a true Parker Moth moment.
Stand-up Moths made me chuckle
Thank you -moth- Matt
Sending love from India
what is that moth wall?? is it some special material that moths love? or is it in a spot where there are so many moths, all you need is a flat wall for scooping them into a jar?
The moths are attracted to the light. So they put out a bright light and a white sheet that helps make it very visible. As they also show in the video, one can use pheromones (smell) to attract them. Different species have different preferences.
I thought moths fly in circles around a light not because they are attracted to it, but because they use the moon to navigate. The artificial light screws up their sense of direction i.e. they think they're flying in a straight line by keeping the light (usually the moon) in the same direction, but if the light is close then they just end up flying in circles. Perhaps the big white sheet confuses them, like a jamming signal, so they stop for a rest.
Just to add to that... I just realized that if a moth was trying to keep the light at an angle less than 90 degrees away from straight ahead, it would spiral in towards it. Conversely, if it was trying to keep the light at an angle greater than 90 degrees away from straight ahead, it would spiral away from it. So if all the moths were trying to fly a straight line in random directions, half of them would end up getting closer to the light, and the other half further away. Unless of course the light actually was the moon, in which case the distance is so great they'd be flying in a straight line.
At 9:23 you made me think about prime numbers (density and distribution). Hours of rabbit holes later, I'm back to finish the video. I hope you're happy.
I LOVE MOTHS AND I LOVE MATHS AND I LOVE MOTHS MATHS
YOU HAVE NO IDEA THIS IS TWO OF MY HYPERFIXATIONS IN ONE VIDEO I'M GOING INSANE
stand up moths khgyudsfukyjdswccukhjascdkuhacsdhukisa
Haha
A Juniper viewer certainly
But what about... maths moths?
RUclips: So here's this new vid-
Me: "Moths? sounds a bit boring for me."
RUclips: ... "It's a Matt Parker Video"
Me: "Moths?! How fascinating. I'm in!"
This is such a beautiful video.
What I find an interesting question is; if you took two moths that the most closely resembled each other out of the gigantic number of moth species that have been discovered, how small would that difference be?
algorithm, please this is genuinely incredible
@17:05 Love ya Matt but remember that just because a moth is new to science, doesn't mean it's new to humans.
Some of those tiger moth species names are very cool. The "banoffee pie" and "Metallica" tiger moths stand out for being completely off the wall.
"Klimt's kiss" must be a really funky-looking moth.
watching this back to back with Ze Frank's moth video gives a surprisingly large amount of context
Did not expect to see a scorchers hat in the Amazon!
Is this the cutest episode on standup??
I upvoted for the pun alone. Mothing else matters.
*mothing more matters
Rarefaction analysis is so cool (using it myself in archaeological studies), so happy with this video! Also, was this the first R plot I have seen on this channel? iNext package? I prefer vegan (cool name, cool package)
Gotta love the name, ironic thing to come up on a video about mass moth slaughter. I think archaeogenetics is fascinating but I won't pretend to know anything about the software exactly. If you study archaeogenetics though, that is insanely cool
I love the name Stand up moth!
XD i'am gone very kindly give that to you and have a little panic over here
I have a feeling Matt Parker is going to fill the Tom Scott Amazing Places void for me
Moths? in the US, we just call them Moth.
Thanks Matt, helps a moth
The Parker Moth, not a real moth, but it tries so hard to be one!
This video reminded me of my fieldwork courses at university, doing the same mathematics for species estimates on grassland, also did a year abroad at Guelph where I did a module on entomology
Cool, I remember learning about this for predicting how many new dinosaur species are left to discover
Yaya, Guelph! ... just down the road from me.
I didn't know that moths are pollinators too.
I now see them under a new light.(pun intended)
If you watch very closely at 00:13, Matt hangs there on a rope from a giant tree next to another person and a cylinder of some kind of metal.
Petition to name the next moth [genus] Mothy McMothface.
'mothy' would be the species name, 'McMothface' will be the subspecies even though it is not the conventional nomenclature for the holotype specimen.
This is nice, but I miss the old Stand-Up Maths who would have actually gone into the mathematics of the rarefaction curves and how that model is derived from the underlying assumptions. Cheerleading things that involve maths is nice, but I much prefer when Matt actually goes into the maths (recreational or academic). Sadly, that's becoming ever rarer...
This video didn't include any more maths that it's title. The last one talked about an equation but didn't do anything mathematical with it. Before that there's a few about shapes being used in the architecture or decorations. I think "All Convex Polyhedra" from 6 months ago is the most recent video that actually does some maths, rather than talking about other people who did maths.
I dunno which I like more, Mothew Parker or Parker Moth, or Stand-Up Moths.
I'm only starting to watch the video but oh my! Is there somewhere in that large forest a square moth?
very cool
Use a NN to recognise moths in photographs of the white cloth.
Parker doin Mothematics again 😄
Very very sleepy moths 👻
Nice backdrop
my favourite matt parker quote of all time is now:
"Moths. I'm so excited!"
matt ur my hero (im also from duncraig)
Great title
With how the video started I almost thought he was taking over from Tom Scott!
Butterflies are just a subgroup of moths ;)
Wake up babe, there's new Hollow Knight lore
I have it on good authority that moths bring realism to anything.
I rewound at 3:47 *hoping* I heard the pun "I'm mothtimistic" but it was not to be 😢
Matt's taking over Tom Scott's niche in the RUclips ecosystem
Does the ring-tailed ring commute?
Did you do fieldwork, or just non-commutative division ringwork?
Is the artificial macaw nest for Ara manilata? I looked up Ara in Wikipedia and didn't find such a species.
all of this for the moth-math pun. truly a parker moment.
11:20 Oh look, it's an Hexagon bridge!
Are there lots of five-legged moths now flying around in Peru?
This week on Stand Up Moths!
A short time ago, a genetic fluke happened and a moth was born which would have gone on to breed a whole new species of moth. This moth saw a light, went to the light, and was scooped up by a mathematician.
"... Thousands of species across thousands of worlds. And now they are all Borg."
6:00 the subtitles say "mods" instead of "moths" several times amongst many other typos.
Parker Square and now a parker moth !