Thanks for covering our song, Doug! You nailed the lyrical interpretation and seem to really get what we tried to do musically! All the best, Ross (Haken Vocalist)
So grateful that I got to see you guys before COVID shut the world down back in March '20 with Devy in Charlotte. You guys put on an INCREDIBLE show, and I became an instant and permanent fan. Hope to see you stateside again sometime soon!
I shared your reaction vid with Ross (Haken vocalist), he said: "The best reaction a musician can hope for... And he immediately nailed the meaning behind the lyrics too".
@Richard Thresh I was talking with Doug and he would like to do Julia by Troika on the channel this week. Doug also just did the entire Mountain album by Haken for his Patreon. I know Ross also has his solo album recently released. So, I was wondering if Ross might be interested in an interview with Doug. Doug said he would be interested. I know you shared this video with Ross before, what social media platform did you use? Or maybe you might pass along the idea.
Doug, I'll bet you would LOVE "Falling Back to Earth" by these guys. The last 6 minutes of it are...transcendent. I don't know what other word to use for it. And the album "Visions", a thematically unified composition, is simply a masterpiece.
Your channel has become a daily stop for me. Seriously, dude. Your analysis is incredible music content. Happy to see you tackle some Haken. Highly recommend checking out their Visions concept album. Hard to explain, but they feel like a more "modern" Dream Theater. Keep kicking ass and I'll keep on binging these. 🤘😁
Essentially, in the early part of their career, they were aping DT. Visions was the record where they started finding their own sound and voice, and I was so thrilled when they did. Not busting on them, though. The fact that they were even CAPABLE of "aping" DT is an impressive feat all its own.
Haken is absolutely Dream Theater 2 as far as I'm concerned. Haken has their own feel don't get me wrong but I think they deserve the progressive metal crown whenever DT feels like passing it along.
@@VagueLuminary check out Bad Salad. They're even more Dream Theater 2 than Haken. So less original, but still well-written and absolutely face-melting
Hoping this band will become a regular on the channel! Their recent albums are a lot heavier so take that how you will. For a second listen I would recommend either another song from The Mountain (Atlas Stone or Falling Back to Earth) or pretty much any song from Aquarius. EDIT: I completely forgot about Crystallised, if you want a really long song, that's my favorite.
I long for the day that someone react to "Celestial Elixir" or "Visions", but they're such long songs that i don't think anyone else but Doug would do it. So let's hope he does :)
Haken is, in my opinion, the modern torchbearer for the style of prog metal Dream Theater pioneered at their (imo) peak (Scenes From a Memory, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence). "Cockroach King" is probably their most unique song, though. They don't have anything quite as altogether whimsical as this one, and their later stuff tends to be heavier. "Crystallised" would be my next recommendation since you liked "Cockroach King". It has some of the same whimsy in the latter half of the song (though it's an 18min epic), and is a terrific song all around. Aside from that, others have made great recommendations as well.
I’m hearing a strong Gentle Giant influence (a good thing). There’s a particular British eccentricity to this, which I adore. First listen for me, and I’m impressed.
@@relinquishh yes, no question of the Gentle Giant influence. I hear a bit of King Crimson here and there too. Like Doug said, "I think I'm a fan ya'll"! 😁
Haken musts in the future include Pareidolia or Atlas Stone (also from The Mountain), The Architect or 1985 from Affinity, Puzzle Box, Veil, or Nil By Mouth from Vector, Carousel or Messiah Complex from Virus, or the full albums of Visions or Aquarius as their first two albums were huge concept albums. Aquarius is absolutely bonkers. The amount of crazy concepts they crammed into that album is astonishing for a DEBUT ALBUM. At such a high level of musicianship as well.
Haken's Crystallised is a perfect next song for you, I think it's got the tastiest vocal harmonies and layering outta their entire discography, and it's a trip back to 70s prog
Doug, I think u will enjoy listening to the band Leprous, the song "The sky is red" is excelent. The singers voice is amazing! And so is the drummer. They have many many great songs.
@@marcojacobsson1898 True. However, when I listen to Virus, I recognize riffs from Cockroach King - does Vector do that? It might - I have to admit, I don't really like Vector all that much, whereas I loved Virus right from the start. So I may have missed them quoting riffs from Cockroach King in Vector.
@@geoffglenister5535 as far as i know, Vector and Virus tell both the story of the Cockroach King; musically i didnt' recognize riffs or themes from the original song in Vector as well...
I've been waiting to see you hear Haken for months. SO glad you finally got into them. The whole rest of the album is utterly perfect. Their last two albums have become quite dark and heavy, but I think that is a phase they will move on from. They seem to be evolving, which is really exciting to see in an artist. Good stuff, Doug, keep up the fun videos!
I hope they do. I really like virus but it got a bit repetitive to me- obviously great musicianship and call backs to other albums/songs but I love their eclectic side.
Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain accessible via his Patreon. He enjoyed the entire album, but you can tell he really enjoyed Because It's There and As Death Embraces on an emotional level.
Queen, Gentle Giant and King Crimson (particularly ‘80-00s stuff you haven’t heard yet) mashed together. I was so excited when I saw you were doing this song.
At the end of the song, that was the biggest smile I've seen on the channel. Glad you enjoyed it, and after recommending Haken for months all I can say is I TOLD YOU SO! ;) hahaha
Haken are great! I'd recommend 1985 as a reaction. Not their best song but a really cool thing to react to. Heavily influenced by 80s synth composer Vince Dicola. Hopefully your Patrons reinforce this.
Mh, I'm not sure that's a good pick after Cockroach King. Both are quite different from almost everything else they've done. Don't get me wrong, I love both songs, but if Cockroach King is the first Haken song you hear, and 1985 the second, you're a bit lost about how they sound IMO.
@@exscape Weird take. So we should avoid sharing stand out masterpieces by artists because they're different than what they usually put out? If it earns the band a new fan, it did it's job. I certainly didn't get my ex wife (an indie music fan) into Dream Theater in 2002 with things like Metropolis pt 1 or Dance of Eternity. I did it with things like Misunderstood and Space Dye Vest on a mixed CD. And she slowly got hardcore into them. I introduced her with elements she was familiar with and could branch out from. Both Cockroach King and 1985 are things Doug seems to enjoy and are fine things to start with.
The whole album is a masterpiece and my favorite by Haken. It’s a very good song and I like the style and direction they went for in that concept album. Very Rush like in some passages on the song.
Richard Henshall (a member of Haken) put out a solo record a couple of years ago called "The Cocoon". Amazingly complex stuff. Anything from that album is worth hearing, but the title track and "Silken Chains" are favorites.
If you like the whimsical and theatrical elements, head to their first two albums. This particular track is from their 3rd album, which is a great mid-point. If you liked the heavier, more riff-based aspects, head to their 4th and 5th albums. But all of them are great - enjoy the ride friend!
@@rolandweigert5169 same, these three are more interesting to me that Dream Theater. And Pain of Salvation isn't much younger than Dream Theater, but are way more adventurous now than DT.
Glad you went with this as your first listen. Can't wait to hear this several times already. Curious what direction you take the reaction. I could delve into the muscitianship, the technical stuff, influences, quirkiness and even the powerful lyrics.
@@Doug.Helvering Excelent. When you grab the Theory guy another way, it's a good one. Glad you liked it. You would love Crystalized emotionally powerful and childish fun. But Celestial Elixir (Their debute concept album) is just as fun. Visions is fun with a deep story. Anything from The Mountain for Gentle Giant and King Crimson or Yes fans. Affinity goes a bit deeper into lyrical interpretation and for those who want a heavier sound Vector and Virus go together in much heavier concept peice.
For anyone interested. Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain accessible via his Patreon. It is well worth a few dollars for the hour and 45 minute reaction if you have the means.
@@themountain3461 I haven’t heard Visions at all (new to Haken at the moment but a big Dream Theater fan.) but looking at the song length, I can already tell it’s Haken’s Octavarium
@@Beefy3240 absolutely. They're just like Dream Theater in that the epics are the best songs. Visions, Celestial Elixir and Crystallised are the cream of the crop
I agree with a lot of people requesting the song Crystallised by Haken. It's from their 2014 EP Restoration, which is often overlooked because it's not in the "album" sections on Spotify. Their albums The Mountain and Affinity (and EP Restoration) are top-tier 10/10 music for me. The rest of their output is still 9,5/10. They're so creative.
If you are interested. Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain accessible via his Patreon. It is well worth a few dollars for the hour and 45 minute reaction if you have the means.
Loved your enthusiasm for the song and also admire your bravery for speaking on politics despite the possibility of turning some fans away. I have fallen down the Haken rabbit hole and I’m blown away. They have some great stuff and I’m sure we’ll see more on this channel given your reaction.
Doug they really open out with what they do, I reckon you would love the following tracks for their unique and distinct style - visions the track, falling back to earth, celestial elixir, carousel, puzzle box, the whole of the messiah complex parts 1 to 5 altogether (12 minutes) if you want something different you could try paradoleia, darkest light or eternal rain. Haken are the best prog coming out of the UK at the moment IMO.
Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain and he enjoyed it. He was fascinated with Paradoleia and Death Embraces, but really thoroughly enjoyed the entire album.
This song dropped me in a hole I still can't climb out of, they all have virtuosic skill in their respective element, their styles blend together so beautifully I just can't stop. #1 Favourite band At the moment. I'm just glad you loved it.
@@Doug.Helvering I saw that. cool that it looks like they put the video from the short version onto the long version. im assuming they cut away from the video during the parts not in the edit. also, while I have you, i cannot recommend thank you scientist enough. they are quirky and jazzy, and some of the best musicians on the planet. Highly recommend the song blood on the radio from them.
Their first album, Aquarius, is a concept album, and deserving of the Scenes From a Memory treatment. Would love to watch you hear the whole thing in one sit. Visions as well. I love this band.
All of their albums are conceptual pieces, some more straight tales than others. I'd like to see him analyze Affinity lyrics as that album is the most human-philosophical of them all.
you'll totally dig Haken Doug! The album "The mountain" is your go to, it's a very big and open sounding album. but I'd suggest Crystallised next, which is from their 'restoration' EP, a true prog epic if you will, lots of interesting stuff.
I saw Them open for Devin Townsend right before the pandemic broke out, along with the Contortionist. Politics is not my thing But I have been enjoying the channel.
I saw them on that tour as well, Cockroach King was just about the weirdest thing anyone played that night but I'll be damned if it wasn't catchy in a weird musical theater way.
Doug, I appreciate your immaculate ear and musical insights! Honestly blown away that you can just grab the keys and chords out of a first listen like that. Adds a lot to a reaction channel. Haken is one of my favourite bands (if not THE top band), and I honestly hope you just do every song by them haha! But if I could recommend a few: Streams and Aquarium from Aquarius (or any song from that album.. or the whole thing! It would be perfect for an extended play lounge episode) 1985 from Affinity
My favourite song from Haken, love it so much and so glad you do too ! Their last album Virus (released last year, no joke...) is great. Thanks for your interpretation, sounds great, I didn't know the lyrics. Cheers from France !
So happy you finally gave Haken a chance. You definitely have to keep reacting to their songs, if you liked Cockroack King I'm sure you'll like their other songs as well. The whole Mountain album is a masterpiece (please react to Atlas Stone), and also I'd recommend their prior albums (Aquarius and Visions).
Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain accessible via his Patreon. It is well worth a few dollars for the hour and a half reaction if you have the means.
I had a coworker who was also into prog metal and I remember when he told me about Haken! He also told me about this group called Native Construct who have a similar vibe. As far as I can tell they only ever did the one album (Quiet World) but it is phenomenal!! And I'm just seeing you did a reaction to Mute 5 months ago so I'm going to watch that now!
I watch this channel every dinner. hahah amazing! Haken released two albuns (Vector and Virus) that works like a preview story of Coackroach King. Great albuns. But, I think you must listen to Affinity album :)
I didn't heard this group before and it really reminded me the great Gentle Giant which is, by the way, a compliment. Thanks Doug and well donne Haken.
That was great! I'm grateful to have experienced that and that I'll check-out their other works. Also, I'm so glad you said that, because I, too, was thinking the same thing: that the Cockroach King has a red comb-over! While he does have his fans, up here, north of your border, a lot of us were really wondering what was going on (and, also, quite worried.) Finally, you, really, do need to check-out Bang On A Can All-Star's version of Conlon Nancarrow's Study 3a. It's Zappa-esque in its musical rigour. Best! J
Doug you have a great ear and are talented at providing analysis, but one thing I never see in the comments is an appreciation for how quickly you are able to parse the meaning of lyrics. It's a whole other skill, one that I don't have at all so you've really helped me to better understand songs that I've already loved for years
i'm SO happy that you've checked Haken ! They're one of the (if not THE) best modern prog bands, as well as worthy succesors of Dream Theater's "throne" . You now really need to listen to Messiah Complex , The Architect , as well as Host !
Doug recently did an extended play listen on his Patreon of the entire Mountain album. He mentioned a DT reference a couple of times and has even said Haken may do it better...
Wonderful reaction Doug, such a unique piece of music. As for the application of the lyrics I respect your analysis but the dangers of "snake oil" politics come from the left and the right and as a Brit from leavers and remainers in the Brexit debate. The sense that virtue or villiany belongs to one side or the other is rare. So much of our political discourse has become bar after bar of double bass drum pounding. In politics, as in music, nuance matters.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Haken! This band has so many gems, it's hard to find a dud. Visions is a fantastic epic that takes some interesting turns. Canary Yellow is short but very powerful and moving, especially with the official video. It's certainly has a darker mood than this one.
Good to know you have a good head between your shoulders, Mr. Helvering. Not just musically (we all knew that already), but also morally and rationally. You dissect art in a very entertaining and intellectually satisfying way, and that's why you have my subscription. Now about Haken, "Atlas Stone", the opener of the same album, The Mountain, would be a wonderful song to react to! Cheers!
If this is your first listen to Haken, I highly recommend listening to songs from other albums as well. They're always doing something new with each album, so they all have different sounds
The inclusion of politics does not detract from the video, as he made a general interpretation of the lyrics that he connected with something relevant in his life. Good art makes you think, and deeper thinking is very much connected with social issues, which are intrinsically political.
@@natec4743 Yeah there is nothing wrong with his interpretation of course, honestly I'm surprised I didn't see any comments addressing what he said, which is totally fine for him to say of course. Just any time you mention a political opinion you're bound to stir controversy and divide people
@@erosbifebeef5115 tbh his mentioning of politics makes me respect him more, not bc I agreed with what he said, but it shows his conviction in his beliefs and it’s a genuine unfiltered reaction, which is a big part of what we all came here for. Ppl avoid politics bc of emotion-driven reactionaries, but personally, I see political disagreement as an opportunity for productive discussion if the other party is open to it.
I love this song. Makes me wanna suggest Cheetos Magazine, if you haven't done them yet. Pretty much anything off Amazingous. Especially Chili Guillermo, Outflow, Cheese Cheater, or Big Boy, if you wanna do an epic! Really feel good music that doesn't compromise to get there!
this is the first time I noticed that right when he says "the hunter snares its prey", drummer hits the snare. hahaha I love these guys. and yes, the first time I heard the song I couldn't think of anything but cheetolini. down to his cockroach-hued hair.
Hey Doug - first time watching your content. Massive Haken fan. Your lyric interpretation was amazing! Cockroach King is actually about a fictional character, Dr Rex. They have 2 albums out, Vector and Virus which tells the story of Dr rex and the albums are a prequel and sequel, respectively. They tell the story of what I interpret as Dr Rex experimenting on mental patients, in an attempt to transfer consciousness into a cockroach and vice versa, with some kind of electro shock therapy and viral infection. He gains notoriety for this in the public eye until he ends up being cornered a grand crescendo and falls to his ultimate demise after sacrificing his daughter, Marigold (Another reference to King Midas), and all throughout the album thee leitmotifs of Vector are in Virus, there are very clear leitmotifs of Cockroach king itself in later tracks of Virus too. I love Haken, the lyrics are so engaging and intriguing! I'd love for you to listen to the 2 albums and take in the lyrics for the whole 'Cockroach King' story.
This reaction did not disappoint! Been looking forward to this video for a while. Hands down my favorite band discovery of the last 10 years of music. Now that they've got your attention, I'd jump on board with several others and suggest Celestial Elixir next for a single song (definitely has a bit of quirk and whimsy like this, and is one of my favorite songs to play). Doing all of Aquarius or the Mountain would be great for EPL. The Mountain stands out with that heavy Gentle Giant influence, though it's altogether a bit different feel from this song alone.
One of my favourite bands of all time. Falling back to earth, visions, The Point of no Return, and crystalized are all great tracks from their older (pre affinity) sound. Post affinity, Veil, and The Architect, are two of my favs
Man I love Haken. Seen them twice live and they sound awesome. They toured with Devin Townsend and their keyboard player, Diego Tejeida jumped to Devin's band too for the gig. They are really great guys as well. Downed some beers with the singer and guitarist while listening the band Between the buried and me.
You got my subscription due to this reaction! This is really unique song - and besides the competent musical analysis, I love how you decipher the lyrical content! Pls do more Haken, it is very creative and consistent band. I would add that nowadays I prefer Haken to DT, always got me interested with their oftentimes unpredictable ideas.
Doug recently did an extended play listen on his Patreon of the entire Mountain album. He mentioned a DT reference a couple of times and has even said Haken may do it better...
@@Arrow2theACL Oh really? I have to see that but I don't have his Patreon. Anyway, thank you for the information. Yes, to me Haken now is much more interesting than DT.
Totally NOT what I was expecting for “Metal Monday” and I’m grateful. Metal usually just doesn’t do it for me, so HERE we go, down a Haken binge rabbithole…
Connected to these guys through Dream Theater and I have been hooked! These guys are awesome! You should check out The Architect, The Messiah Complex (in its entirety), Celestial Elixir, Falling Back to Earth and Carousel.
I can tell you can't get over the muppets in the video because you haven't commented on any theory for what chord there on what not. That Means you're just very entertained and that is very good for anybody listening to music.It also means that when you listen again for theory, You love them even more.Being the I'm a drink their fan and I was searching for other bands like that and I couldn't find any other Van like them at became hopeless. And then I went on a progressive nation cruise and discovered haken in real life that is the closest bandit dream theater and I love them more than ever. Dream theater, pain of salvation, haken.
He is ready! Listen to 'Nocturnal Conspiracies' or 'Crystallised', both by Haken. And did you listen to caligula's horse already? Do 'graves'! Same level of musicality...
When I saw them life supporting Devin Townsend in 2019 they played that piece. Amazingly great! Diego played both with Haken and Devin. Definitely the best concert I attended in the last 20 years!
This was for sure something i didnt expect at all. First time hearing Haken as well. Not only did it remind me a bit queen at some small parts. But very jazzy as well i recon. Could give them a try for sure, since i like crazy proggressive music.
this is the first of your videos i am watching and instantly subscribed to your channel. the depth of your analysis is outstanding and i love listening to you. Keep it up!
Thank you once again for making my day Doug!! I will now and forever have your professional opinion to back me up that metal is NOT JUST NOISE. I am 53 years old and a die hard metal head. I have been able to convert my sweet little wife to metal music over the years lol. Your professional opinion and the time that you devote to these songs makes my day. You rock Doug !!
I love their Gentle Giant vibe. Their influences seem to range from Genesis to Opeth to Jazz. I've just discovered them about 2 weeks ago and have all their albums to discover except for ''The mountain''.
Hi Doug, im from Argentina, here was a band, SERU GIRAN. The fab four from Argentina, if you know what i mean. Well, try, A LOS.JOVENES DE AYER, a song very close to Astor Piazzolla. My best regards
Thanks for covering our song, Doug! You nailed the lyrical interpretation and seem to really get what we tried to do musically! All the best, Ross (Haken Vocalist)
Keep going guys!! Hope you can make it back to the states when we get control over this virus.
Hope you guys stay in health 🔥🔥🔥
discovering Haken and Leprous is what got me through 2020!
@@jedinxf7 Big same, their music pretty much saved my life last year, and they have become my favourite prog band.
So grateful that I got to see you guys before COVID shut the world down back in March '20 with Devy in Charlotte. You guys put on an INCREDIBLE show, and I became an instant and permanent fan. Hope to see you stateside again sometime soon!
I shared your reaction vid with Ross (Haken vocalist), he said: "The best reaction a musician can hope for... And he immediately nailed the meaning behind the lyrics too".
Wow that's great!
... and (prophetically), in 23 July 2019, they too got a matching "especimen" in office... Yikes!
His lyrics are well understood, your reaction is just juvenile. Sorry. Please stick to the music and you'll be fine.
@Richard Thresh I was talking with Doug and he would like to do Julia by Troika on the channel this week. Doug also just did the entire Mountain album by Haken for his Patreon. I know Ross also has his solo album recently released. So, I was wondering if Ross might be interested in an interview with Doug. Doug said he would be interested. I know you shared this video with Ross before, what social media platform did you use? Or maybe you might pass along the idea.
@@Arrow2theACL ... happy to pass on the idea
Doug, I'll bet you would LOVE "Falling Back to Earth" by these guys. The last 6 minutes of it are...transcendent. I don't know what other word to use for it. And the album "Visions", a thematically unified composition, is simply a masterpiece.
listen to this man
PLEASE
Seconded
I have a snippet of "falling back to Earth" as my ringtone on my phone. Easily one of their best songs... EVER!!!
@@moose6666 I looped this line from Crystallised as my ringtone. ruclips.net/video/DjaE3w8j6vY/видео.html
Your channel has become a daily stop for me. Seriously, dude. Your analysis is incredible music content. Happy to see you tackle some Haken. Highly recommend checking out their Visions concept album. Hard to explain, but they feel like a more "modern" Dream Theater. Keep kicking ass and I'll keep on binging these. 🤘😁
Seconded, their Visions album is my favourite of all! Many people will disagree though. But that is the beauty of music, it is always subjective!
Essentially, in the early part of their career, they were aping DT. Visions was the record where they started finding their own sound and voice, and I was so thrilled when they did.
Not busting on them, though. The fact that they were even CAPABLE of "aping" DT is an impressive feat all its own.
Haken is absolutely Dream Theater 2 as far as I'm concerned. Haken has their own feel don't get me wrong but I think they deserve the progressive metal crown whenever DT feels like passing it along.
@@VagueLuminary check out Bad Salad. They're even more Dream Theater 2 than Haken. So less original, but still well-written and absolutely face-melting
Oh, small world.
Hoping this band will become a regular on the channel! Their recent albums are a lot heavier so take that how you will. For a second listen I would recommend either another song from The Mountain (Atlas Stone or Falling Back to Earth) or pretty much any song from Aquarius.
EDIT: I completely forgot about Crystallised, if you want a really long song, that's my favorite.
I long for the day that someone react to "Celestial Elixir" or "Visions", but they're such long songs that i don't think anyone else but Doug would do it. So let's hope he does :)
Messiah Complex is equally dope
@@TheRubeoHagrid I'll take your word for it. I haven't heard anything past "The Montain" yet. But i will soon fix this mistake :)
Atlas Stone, yes please!
React to Visions, Atlas Stone, Crystallised, Falling back to the earth, The Arquitect, Pareidolia, Carousel, Prostetic, Messiah Complex.
Haken is, in my opinion, the modern torchbearer for the style of prog metal Dream Theater pioneered at their (imo) peak (Scenes From a Memory, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence).
"Cockroach King" is probably their most unique song, though. They don't have anything quite as altogether whimsical as this one, and their later stuff tends to be heavier.
"Crystallised" would be my next recommendation since you liked "Cockroach King". It has some of the same whimsy in the latter half of the song (though it's an 18min epic), and is a terrific song all around.
Aside from that, others have made great recommendations as well.
I would argue that a lot of songs off of Aquarius have a load of whimsy, but I otherwise agree
React to Visions, Atlas Stone, Crystallised, Falling back to the earth, The Arquitect, Pareidolia, Carousel, Prostetic, Messiah Complex.
I love crystallised. Doug will have to guess which drums Mike Portnoy played at the song....
Try a long song from them called "Crystallised". It´s dope!
Yes!
Yes yes yes!!!
Indeed it is!
A thousand times this!
I was about to comment this
Celestial Elixir is a must listen suite
Agree
Definitely
Yes. The entire Aquarius album is perfect!
I’m hearing a strong Gentle Giant influence (a good thing). There’s a particular British eccentricity to this, which I adore. First listen for me, and I’m impressed.
Yeah the Gentle Giant is really strong on this. Not something they do often though so maybe not the most representative first listen haha.
Yea this song is an ode to Gentle Giant
"Crystallized" is another of their very heavily Gentle-Giant-inspired pieces.
@@relinquishh yes, no question of the Gentle Giant influence. I hear a bit of King Crimson here and there too. Like Doug said, "I think I'm a fan ya'll"! 😁
I never heard Haken before, but my first reaction was: Gentle Giant in modern clothes. I like it!
Plz react to Crystallised by Haken next time. It's one of their best composition ever. Epic and adventurous.
Agreed. Amazing piece of music.
Agreed
Haken musts in the future include Pareidolia or Atlas Stone (also from The Mountain), The Architect or 1985 from Affinity, Puzzle Box, Veil, or Nil By Mouth from Vector, Carousel or Messiah Complex from Virus, or the full albums of Visions or Aquarius as their first two albums were huge concept albums. Aquarius is absolutely bonkers. The amount of crazy concepts they crammed into that album is astonishing for a DEBUT ALBUM. At such a high level of musicianship as well.
Missing crystallized in those recommendations
Aquarius is my favorite album of theirs ❤️
@@Meister_Dwight it's so much fun!
Dude, Crystallized!! And from the newer music I think he would very much enjoy Carousel
Yes to this.
Ayreon - The Human Equation album is a must for long episodes.
God I love ayreon glad to see someone mention it
One of the 3 best prog bands from the last decade along with thank you scientist and bent knee. Definitely hoping to see more of them in the future.
You misspelled Leprous.
@@TwoandaHater leprous are good, but not quite as good as these 3.
@@keenanbartlome8153 I would put Leprous WAAAAAY above Bent Knee (I saw them both with Haken), but to each their own.
The answer is actually Moron Police.
Thank you scientist! Thats a warm recommendation.
Haken's Crystallised is a perfect next song for you, I think it's got the tastiest vocal harmonies and layering outta their entire discography, and it's a trip back to 70s prog
Totally agree....it's their best song!
Doug, I think u will enjoy listening to the band Leprous, the song "The sky is red" is excelent. The singers voice is amazing! And so is the drummer. They have many many great songs.
Agree. The Sky Is Red is a masterpiece, and it takes a MOST unexpected turn towards the second half.
oh yeah
Crystallized by Haken as well 🤯🤯
Oh man, can't wait. You really gotta hear Puzzle Box after this!
Haken's recent album, Virus, is bascially a sequel to "The Cockaroach King" - sort of like how Dream Theater did "Metropolis Part 2".
Vector as well, i think
@@marcojacobsson1898 True. However, when I listen to Virus, I recognize riffs from Cockroach King - does Vector do that? It might - I have to admit, I don't really like Vector all that much, whereas I loved Virus right from the start. So I may have missed them quoting riffs from Cockroach King in Vector.
@@geoffglenister5535 as far as i know, Vector and Virus tell both the story of the Cockroach King; musically i didnt' recognize riffs or themes from the original song in Vector as well...
There are some tidbits of Cockroach King in Nil by Mouth
I've been waiting to see you hear Haken for months. SO glad you finally got into them. The whole rest of the album is utterly perfect. Their last two albums have become quite dark and heavy, but I think that is a phase they will move on from. They seem to be evolving, which is really exciting to see in an artist. Good stuff, Doug, keep up the fun videos!
I hope they do. I really like virus but it got a bit repetitive to me- obviously great musicianship and call backs to other albums/songs but I love their eclectic side.
@@ckokomo808 Same feeling. Loved the changes, but want to hear more eclectic content, too.
Both Dream Theater and Haken have gone quite djenty and modern metal. The nostalgia, humor and playfulness of the early albums are much missed
Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain accessible via his Patreon. He enjoyed the entire album, but you can tell he really enjoyed Because It's There and As Death Embraces on an emotional level.
I cannot wait for the inevitable day that you listen to Ayreon - The Human Equation
Absolutely...Ayreon's masterpiece...just do it Doug.
Yes!
Please do it! It is auch an epic piece!
Yep! A perfect proggy folly double album.
Queen, Gentle Giant and King Crimson (particularly ‘80-00s stuff you haven’t heard yet) mashed together. I was so excited when I saw you were doing this song.
At the end of the song, that was the biggest smile I've seen on the channel. Glad you enjoyed it, and after recommending Haken for months all I can say is I TOLD YOU SO! ;) hahaha
I've been waiting for this for so long. So excited!
Haken are great! I'd recommend 1985 as a reaction. Not their best song but a really cool thing to react to. Heavily influenced by 80s synth composer Vince Dicola. Hopefully your Patrons reinforce this.
Mh, I'm not sure that's a good pick after Cockroach King. Both are quite different from almost everything else they've done.
Don't get me wrong, I love both songs, but if Cockroach King is the first Haken song you hear, and 1985 the second, you're a bit lost about how they sound IMO.
@@exscape Weird take. So we should avoid sharing stand out masterpieces by artists because they're different than what they usually put out? If it earns the band a new fan, it did it's job. I certainly didn't get my ex wife (an indie music fan) into Dream Theater in 2002 with things like Metropolis pt 1 or Dance of Eternity. I did it with things like Misunderstood and Space Dye Vest on a mixed CD. And she slowly got hardcore into them. I introduced her with elements she was familiar with and could branch out from. Both Cockroach King and 1985 are things Doug seems to enjoy and are fine things to start with.
The whole album is a masterpiece and my favorite by Haken. It’s a very good song and I like the style and direction they went for in that concept album.
Very Rush like in some passages on the song.
Richard Henshall (a member of Haken) put out a solo record a couple of years ago called "The Cocoon". Amazingly complex stuff. Anything from that album is worth hearing, but the title track and "Silken Chains" are favorites.
Amazing album
Thanks for reminding me about that one, it's time for another listen.
YES! and dont forget Lunar Room
This is great. So much Crim and Giant influence. I'll be seeking out more of this band. Thanks, Doug and those who suggested it.
If you like the whimsical and theatrical elements, head to their first two albums. This particular track is from their 3rd album, which is a great mid-point. If you liked the heavier, more riff-based aspects, head to their 4th and 5th albums. But all of them are great - enjoy the ride friend!
@@Jaymzmiller Alsp the EP is a absolute must. Crystalised is amazing.
Haken is without a doubt the greatest prog metal band in my opinion after the gods themselves, Dream Theater.
I prefer Haken by a lot these days.
Leprous and Pain of Salvation are more in my favour.
@@rolandweigert5169 same, these three are more interesting to me that Dream Theater. And Pain of Salvation isn't much younger than Dream Theater, but are way more adventurous now than DT.
JA! you hear Spiral Architect.....????
Opeth, DT, Tool, and then Haken for me. Still, top 5 is nothing to sneeze at.
Glad you went with this as your first listen. Can't wait to hear this several times already. Curious what direction you take the reaction. I could delve into the muscitianship, the technical stuff, influences, quirkiness and even the powerful lyrics.
I didn't do as much theory in this one...the flow of the piece, lyrics, and spunk are what captured my fascination in the moment.
@@Doug.Helvering Excelent. When you grab the Theory guy another way, it's a good one. Glad you liked it. You would love Crystalized emotionally powerful and childish fun. But Celestial Elixir (Their debute concept album) is just as fun. Visions is fun with a deep story. Anything from The Mountain for Gentle Giant and King Crimson or Yes fans. Affinity goes a bit deeper into lyrical interpretation and for those who want a heavier sound Vector and Virus go together in much heavier concept peice.
For anyone interested. Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain accessible via his Patreon. It is well worth a few dollars for the hour and 45 minute reaction if you have the means.
Haken is basically Dream Theater with more imagination
There’s no context to
Back that up but you are entitled to your opinion and music and what is created at a point in time, is subjective after all.
Celestial Elixir next please! you're gonna dig in to it
You should really do their song "Visions", it'll fit great on your friday extended reactions!
Visions is my favourite song from Haken!
Visions is up there with Octavarium as the greatest compositions of all time
@@themountain3461 I haven’t heard Visions at all (new to Haken at the moment but a big Dream Theater fan.) but looking at the song length, I can already tell it’s Haken’s Octavarium
@@Beefy3240 absolutely. They're just like Dream Theater in that the epics are the best songs. Visions, Celestial Elixir and Crystallised are the cream of the crop
Haken is so fucking good. Their earlier stuff is my favorite Aquarius and visions are my stand outs but the new stuff is still great
I agree with a lot of people requesting the song Crystallised by Haken. It's from their 2014 EP Restoration, which is often overlooked because it's not in the "album" sections on Spotify. Their albums The Mountain and Affinity (and EP Restoration) are top-tier 10/10 music for me. The rest of their output is still 9,5/10. They're so creative.
If you are interested. Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain accessible via his Patreon. It is well worth a few dollars for the hour and 45 minute reaction if you have the means.
Loved your enthusiasm for the song and also admire your bravery for speaking on politics despite the possibility of turning some fans away. I have fallen down the Haken rabbit hole and I’m blown away. They have some great stuff and I’m sure we’ll see more on this channel given your reaction.
Watch the first episode of this vlog. It was originally planned as a vlog on political and social issues.
Cristalized
PLEASE
Yes !
Doug they really open out with what they do, I reckon you would love the following tracks for their unique and distinct style - visions the track, falling back to earth, celestial elixir, carousel, puzzle box, the whole of the messiah complex parts 1 to 5 altogether (12 minutes) if you want something different you could try paradoleia, darkest light or eternal rain. Haken are the best prog coming out of the UK at the moment IMO.
Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain and he enjoyed it. He was fascinated with Paradoleia and Death Embraces, but really thoroughly enjoyed the entire album.
This song dropped me in a hole I still can't climb out of, they all have virtuosic skill in their respective element, their styles blend together so beautifully I just can't stop. #1 Favourite band At the moment. I'm just glad you loved it.
What is done is done, but you are missing by not checking out the full studio version
Check the reference video in the description, it’s the full version.
My bad, I didn't even realize that in the band's official channel they only have the video edit
I found this full version on another channel with less than 1000 views.
@@Doug.Helvering I saw that. cool that it looks like they put the video from the short version onto the long version. im assuming they cut away from the video during the parts not in the edit.
also, while I have you, i cannot recommend thank you scientist enough. they are quirky and jazzy, and some of the best musicians on the planet. Highly recommend the song blood on the radio from them.
Their first album, Aquarius, is a concept album, and deserving of the Scenes From a Memory treatment. Would love to watch you hear the whole thing in one sit. Visions as well. I love this band.
Aquarius is so damn underrated in the Haken fanbase these days :(
Don’t forget Affinity too
All of their albums are conceptual pieces, some more straight tales than others. I'd like to see him analyze Affinity lyrics as that album is the most human-philosophical of them all.
Well the Mountain was voted on by his Patreon, so he did a full album listen to it. It was still worth the listen though.
@@Arrow2theACL wait, he reacted to The Mountain in its entirety and didn't upload the video?
Got some Gentle Giant in there. Got some King Crimson with the whole tone stuff. First time hearing the band!
Thanks Doug, I hadn't heard these guys before, thank you!
I have waited so long for Haken! Yes!
you'll totally dig Haken Doug! The album "The mountain" is your go to, it's a very big and open sounding album. but I'd suggest Crystallised next, which is from their 'restoration' EP, a true prog epic if you will, lots of interesting stuff.
Crystallised is amazing.
Well he did Crystalised and he loved it. Then he did an extended play listen of the entire Mountain album for Patreon yesterday.
I saw Them open for Devin Townsend right before the pandemic broke out, along with the Contortionist. Politics is not my thing But I have been enjoying the channel.
Me too. Never heard them before. Became a fan that night!
I saw them on that tour as well, Cockroach King was just about the weirdest thing anyone played that night but I'll be damned if it wasn't catchy in a weird musical theater way.
Right there with you, Doug. First time hearing them, and I am all in!
I like that this video is cited in the Wikipedia page for this song
Doug, I appreciate your immaculate ear and musical insights!
Honestly blown away that you can just grab the keys and chords out of a first listen like that. Adds a lot to a reaction channel.
Haken is one of my favourite bands (if not THE top band), and I honestly hope you just do every song by them haha!
But if I could recommend a few:
Streams and Aquarium from Aquarius (or any song from that album.. or the whole thing! It would be perfect for an extended play lounge episode)
1985 from Affinity
Waiting patiently for Aquarius to get on the extended play lounge on Patreon much like The Mountain was.
My favourite song from Haken, love it so much and so glad you do too !
Their last album Virus (released last year, no joke...) is great.
Thanks for your interpretation, sounds great, I didn't know the lyrics.
Cheers from France !
So happy you finally gave Haken a chance. You definitely have to keep reacting to their songs, if you liked Cockroack King I'm sure you'll like their other songs as well. The whole Mountain album is a masterpiece (please react to Atlas Stone), and also I'd recommend their prior albums (Aquarius and Visions).
Doug reacted to the entire album The Mountain accessible via his Patreon. It is well worth a few dollars for the hour and a half reaction if you have the means.
@@Arrow2theACL Nice to know, I'll check it out!
I had a coworker who was also into prog metal and I remember when he told me about Haken! He also told me about this group called Native Construct who have a similar vibe. As far as I can tell they only ever did the one album (Quiet World) but it is phenomenal!! And I'm just seeing you did a reaction to Mute 5 months ago so I'm going to watch that now!
Doug, seriously man, you must react to Premiata Forneria marconi
Adding Haken to my playlist right now!!!
Wow, thanks Doug!!! Another band i never listened to before but will get into.
It's not often I hear something that truly sounds unique. I gotta check out more!
You're in for a ride.
The 1st Chapter by CIRCUS MAXIMUS please!!!!!. 19min song 🤘🏻✨
It's time for Crystallised!
I watch this channel every dinner. hahah amazing! Haken released two albuns (Vector and Virus) that works like a preview story of Coackroach King. Great albuns. But, I think you must listen to Affinity album :)
I didn't heard this group before and it really reminded me the great Gentle Giant which is, by the way, a compliment. Thanks Doug and well donne Haken.
Haken are an absolutely brilliant band , more coverage is needed for their genius to be heard.
That was great! I'm grateful to have experienced that and that I'll check-out their other works. Also, I'm so glad you said that, because I, too, was thinking the same thing: that the Cockroach King has a red comb-over! While he does have his fans, up here, north of your border, a lot of us were really wondering what was going on (and, also, quite worried.) Finally, you, really, do need to check-out Bang On A Can All-Star's version of Conlon Nancarrow's Study 3a. It's Zappa-esque in its musical rigour. Best! J
Doug you have a great ear and are talented at providing analysis, but one thing I never see in the comments is an appreciation for how quickly you are able to parse the meaning of lyrics. It's a whole other skill, one that I don't have at all so you've really helped me to better understand songs that I've already loved for years
i'm SO happy that you've checked Haken ! They're one of the (if not THE) best modern prog bands, as well as worthy succesors of Dream Theater's "throne" . You now really need to listen to Messiah Complex , The Architect , as well as Host !
Doug recently did an extended play listen on his Patreon of the entire Mountain album. He mentioned a DT reference a couple of times and has even said Haken may do it better...
Wonderful reaction Doug, such a unique piece of music. As for the application of the lyrics I respect your analysis but the dangers of "snake oil" politics come from the left and the right and as a Brit from leavers and remainers in the Brexit debate. The sense that virtue or villiany belongs to one side or the other is rare. So much of our political discourse has become bar after bar of double bass drum pounding. In politics, as in music, nuance matters.
Agreed 100%.
People are colorblind nowadays, it either is the salvation of humanity or the devil himself.
That's not how the world works.
Underrated comment. Loved the double bass metaphor.
the two party illusion :(
I'm only occasionally listening to Haken and this song reminds me to do so more often. Great choice!
Ohh, I suggested this one before so obviously very excited to see this.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Haken! This band has so many gems, it's hard to find a dud. Visions is a fantastic epic that takes some interesting turns. Canary Yellow is short but very powerful and moving, especially with the official video. It's certainly has a darker mood than this one.
Good to know you have a good head between your shoulders, Mr. Helvering. Not just musically (we all knew that already), but also morally and rationally. You dissect art in a very entertaining and intellectually satisfying way, and that's why you have my subscription. Now about Haken, "Atlas Stone", the opener of the same album, The Mountain, would be a wonderful song to react to! Cheers!
Another band new to me whom I will have to look deeper into. I heard this and thought of Gentle Giant too.
If this is your first listen to Haken, I highly recommend listening to songs from other albums as well. They're always doing something new with each album, so they all have different sounds
It's still incredible to me that Aquarius is their first album.
I love The Mountain, it's one of those albums where you have to listen to the whole thing straight through or it won't feel complete
Such a great choice! Go for Crystallized also by Haken!
you definitely have to check out their song Crystallised!
It's a beautiful masterpiece
Lol aside from the politics great video
The inclusion of politics does not detract from the video, as he made a general interpretation of the lyrics that he connected with something relevant in his life. Good art makes you think, and deeper thinking is very much connected with social issues, which are intrinsically political.
@@natec4743 Yeah there is nothing wrong with his interpretation of course, honestly I'm surprised I didn't see any comments addressing what he said, which is totally fine for him to say of course. Just any time you mention a political opinion you're bound to stir controversy and divide people
@@erosbifebeef5115 tbh his mentioning of politics makes me respect him more, not bc I agreed with what he said, but it shows his conviction in his beliefs and it’s a genuine unfiltered reaction, which is a big part of what we all came here for. Ppl avoid politics bc of emotion-driven reactionaries, but personally, I see political disagreement as an opportunity for productive discussion if the other party is open to it.
@@natec4743 you are one in a million 😂
Politics is for simpletons.
I love this song. Makes me wanna suggest Cheetos Magazine, if you haven't done them yet. Pretty much anything off Amazingous. Especially Chili Guillermo, Outflow, Cheese Cheater, or Big Boy, if you wanna do an epic! Really feel good music that doesn't compromise to get there!
this is the first time I noticed that right when he says "the hunter snares its prey", drummer hits the snare. hahaha I love these guys.
and yes, the first time I heard the song I couldn't think of anything but cheetolini. down to his cockroach-hued hair.
Watching your videos is pretty much the only time I feel musical and happy at the same time... God! So so good!
I just heard this for the first time. What a hoot. Great music. I thoroughly enjoyed that.
Hey Doug - first time watching your content. Massive Haken fan.
Your lyric interpretation was amazing! Cockroach King is actually about a fictional character, Dr Rex. They have 2 albums out, Vector and Virus which tells the story of Dr rex and the albums are a prequel and sequel, respectively. They tell the story of what I interpret as Dr Rex experimenting on mental patients, in an attempt to transfer consciousness into a cockroach and vice versa, with some kind of electro shock therapy and viral infection. He gains notoriety for this in the public eye until he ends up being cornered a grand crescendo and falls to his ultimate demise after sacrificing his daughter, Marigold (Another reference to King Midas), and all throughout the album thee leitmotifs of Vector are in Virus, there are very clear leitmotifs of Cockroach king itself in later tracks of Virus too. I love Haken, the lyrics are so engaging and intriguing!
I'd love for you to listen to the 2 albums and take in the lyrics for the whole 'Cockroach King' story.
This reaction did not disappoint! Been looking forward to this video for a while. Hands down my favorite band discovery of the last 10 years of music. Now that they've got your attention, I'd jump on board with several others and suggest Celestial Elixir next for a single song (definitely has a bit of quirk and whimsy like this, and is one of my favorite songs to play). Doing all of Aquarius or the Mountain would be great for EPL. The Mountain stands out with that heavy Gentle Giant influence, though it's altogether a bit different feel from this song alone.
Looks like we got our wish of a EPL of The Mountain
@@Arrow2theACL I stayed up way too late watching it, but it was worth it!
One of my favourite bands of all time. Falling back to earth, visions, The Point of no Return, and crystalized are all great tracks from their older (pre affinity) sound. Post affinity, Veil, and The Architect, are two of my favs
I'm really pleased to see you reacting to Haken, I hope it becomes a constant band in your reacts, they have a ton of great songs. Kind regards!
Man I love Haken. Seen them twice live and they sound awesome.
They toured with Devin Townsend and their keyboard player, Diego Tejeida jumped to Devin's band too for the gig.
They are really great guys as well. Downed some beers with the singer and guitarist while listening the band Between the buried and me.
Doug has discovered Haken! What epic-ness shall await next?
You got my subscription due to this reaction! This is really unique song - and besides the competent musical analysis, I love how you decipher the lyrical content! Pls do more Haken, it is very creative and consistent band. I would add that nowadays I prefer Haken to DT, always got me interested with their oftentimes unpredictable ideas.
Doug recently did an extended play listen on his Patreon of the entire Mountain album. He mentioned a DT reference a couple of times and has even said Haken may do it better...
@@Arrow2theACL Oh really? I have to see that but I don't have his Patreon. Anyway, thank you for the information. Yes, to me Haken now is much more interesting than DT.
thank you doug... you rock!!! and this is one of my fav songs to show off my studio.. any time you want a beer.. just let me know!
So when i found Haken here i stay here. I love this band.
Totally NOT what I was expecting for “Metal Monday” and I’m grateful. Metal usually just doesn’t do it for me, so HERE we go, down a Haken binge rabbithole…
Connected to these guys through Dream Theater and I have been hooked! These guys are awesome! You should check out The Architect, The Messiah Complex (in its entirety), Celestial Elixir, Falling Back to Earth and Carousel.
I can tell you can't get over the muppets in the video because you haven't commented on any theory for what chord there on what not. That Means you're just very entertained and that is very good for anybody listening to music.It also means that when you listen again for theory, You love them even more.Being the I'm a drink their fan and I was searching for other bands like that and I couldn't find any other Van like them at became hopeless. And then I went on a progressive nation cruise and discovered haken in real life that is the closest bandit dream theater and I love them more than ever. Dream theater, pain of salvation, haken.
So glad Doug picked up on the Gentle Giant influence, somethi g I hear every time I listen to this! You totally got it, thanks for your insight.
He is ready!
Listen to 'Nocturnal Conspiracies' or 'Crystallised', both by Haken.
And did you listen to caligula's horse already? Do 'graves'! Same level of musicality...
This was very good. Thank you recommenders.
Have you heard of Haken before this?
@@Arrow2theACL Yes?
When I saw them life supporting Devin Townsend in 2019 they played that piece. Amazingly great! Diego played both with Haken and Devin. Definitely the best concert I attended in the last 20 years!
Great gig and didn't even know Haken were supporting Devin. Best backing band surprise in many years of concert going!
You should check out 'Magic Pie' from Norway. 'Change' from 'Motions of Desire' is a long (but great) song if you like modern/vintage prog rock.
The fountain of Lamneth (Rush), you'd love it
This was for sure something i didnt expect at all. First time hearing Haken as well. Not only did it remind me a bit queen at some small parts.
But very jazzy as well i recon. Could give them a try for sure, since i like crazy proggressive music.
this is the first of your videos i am watching and instantly subscribed to your channel. the depth of your analysis is outstanding and i love listening to you. Keep it up!
Thank you once again for making my day Doug!! I will now and forever have your professional opinion to back me up that metal is NOT JUST NOISE. I am 53 years old and a die hard metal head. I have been able to convert my sweet little wife to metal music over the years lol. Your professional opinion and the time that you devote to these songs makes my day. You rock Doug !!
Man!! I just saw you uploaded this video, metropolis pt 2, and a snarky puppy reaction!
Well there goes me being productive tonight
I love their Gentle Giant vibe. Their influences seem to range from Genesis to Opeth to Jazz. I've just discovered them about 2 weeks ago and have all their albums to discover except for ''The mountain''.
Hi Doug, im from Argentina, here was a band, SERU GIRAN. The fab four from Argentina, if you know what i mean. Well, try, A LOS.JOVENES DE AYER, a song very close to Astor Piazzolla. My best regards