Beautiful classic machine, high quality and built for many, many years of service when well maintaned. The saying "They don't built them anymore like this" is for shure. In Holland many draglines were converted to a tractor (crawler) under carriage with lifetime lubricated rollers and bulldozer (Cat) type tracks and grousers, Interparts in Hillegom converted many draglines this way. When the original engine needed a rebuilt, many were replaced with Daf 475 and 575 engines. I have great memories working on these classic machines, happy days. Thanks for sharing, great video's!
Looks a good machine, I am very envious as I once bought a 22RB with great plans but time was not on my side and I had to sell it on. Looking forward to seeing the restoration. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry to read. When the machines were taken out of operation by the brick factory around 2015, we were informed that machines were for sale. At that time we did not have the opportunity, resources and space to refurbish one of the 2 draglines. We then informed an acquaintance of ours who bought both machines, of which the normal 22rb was immediately sold to other enthusiasts. After that, the machine stood almost completely still in storage with him for about 6 years, due to lack of space he had to say goodbye to the machine and fortunately he contacted us to ask if we were interested. And we certainly were, opportunity and resources were now available and we were able to place the machine with a neighbor who thinks it is a nice addition to his collection of narrow gauge items. You never know, there may also be an opportunity for you to become the owner of such a machine, although these chances are getting smaller and smaller Best regards, Ronan
Good to see you saving another beauty Ronan. I have decided to let someone else enjoy playing in the mud, so my 22RB will be up for sale in the near future. Great video by the way
Too bad you're saying goodbye to your dragline. Transport will be very expensive at such a distance, most expensive old iron traded🤣. We are already too far along to give up on this machine. Engine is out, undercarriage disconnected, mast dismantled all for the restoration Now that we are building up more acquaintances in this hobby, we notice that there are still more old machines in the Netherlands than initially thought. Do you still have many machines preserved in your country?
@@cc_machinery I would say there are more down south in Victoria because Dan Taylor said they are cheap to buy where he is. Chris Hooper here in Queensland used to have the biggest collection of draglines and shovels that I have ever seen, but he has moved and I don't know if he kept all of his vintage machines or sold them off. I do know that those who owned these old cranes when they were used in every day work, all know one another and who had what machines. There is a widow and her son who own 2 22RB's a 38B and a 88B out at the Gem Feilds west of Emerald. Anyway, good luck on your rebuild. Cheers Adrian.
@@adriannettlefold9084 Thank you for your response I was curious how this is in your country. Did you buy and refurbish the ruston for a specific project?
Afterwards we found out that the friction bands were not correctly adjusted and due to not using it for a long time, some compressed air components for operating the dragline had deteriorated. In combination with a larger than original base is not always ideal. Although I think it looks like a more powerful machine with this undercarriage.
@@cc_machinery I only operated 3 air controlled, the 30-B, the model-6 and a Lima. All the others were straight manual. That's where you get good at setting up clutches but it's tough if they were worn sideways previously.
@@cc_machinery I forgot about the 22 that had the old Cat 318 pony start that was worn OUT and had to be pushed from place to place. It ran good though.
I believe that the undercarriages and engines were changed in Holland, because DAF engine spares were more readily available, and the grouser type track pads gave a more stable base on soft ground. Several of them found their way back to the UK - we christened them “magic carpets” because they travelled so smoothly - much better ride than the standard undercarriage ! Looks a really nice machine - did it come from the brick works ? Kind regards, Steve A.
Yes, it does come from the brick factory in the Netherlands. This machine is posted at the site of "Trucks and cranes.com". The dragline still is in the Netherlands.
What I understood is that Wynmalen&Hausmann, the distributor at the time, sent the DAF engines and Interparts tractor carriages to the factory in England. Factory fitted but only for Dutch machines.
@@chillywilli Could be, I can't confirm or deny it. In the Netherlands, a smaller company (Nijland Delden, also known in England as Delden Cranes) has been very active in overhauling these machines in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. In any case, many machines have been converted by them to other versions, for example from mechanical to compressed air operation, but also other undercarriages and engines. This particular machine has also been completely dismantled there before being delivered to the previous owner. Fortunately I had the pleasure of meeting the active owner of that period a very interesting conversation, where the specific part numbers could be mentioned without having to look at the parts book. He still is a walking encyclopaedia of Ruston Bucyrus draglines or cranes even after several years of retirement. Thanks for your response Ronan
Hi William, You may well be correct - it would seem more logical. I only have my information second hand, and my memory isn’t as good as it was ! I think that the reasons for the changes are correct, though. I do have a photograph somewhere, of a newly-built machine with that under carriage fitted, and from the background, I don’t think that it was taken at the Lincoln works . . . . Coincidentally, I do have a couple of badges from W & H. Of three that I have known which returned from the Netherlands, one worked at Hams Hall power station, dredging the ash lagoons, and two came to Benny Cambridge’s yard, to be fitted with scrap handling magnets, before being sold on to recycling yards. They both had Dorman 6DA Diesel engines fitted.
Hi Ronan, I have met Willi Nijland at Delden, on a few occasions. They were one of several companies involved with the repair and rebuilding of machines, here in the UK. Was that where the machine was converted to two-lever control ? I would be interested in learning how they did it. All of our machines have three air levers - left one: swing ( or propel ), centre one: front drum - dragline, right one: rear drum - hoist.
Beautiful classic machine, high quality and built for many, many years of service when well maintaned. The saying "They don't built them anymore like this" is for shure.
In Holland many draglines were converted to a tractor (crawler) under carriage with lifetime lubricated rollers and bulldozer (Cat) type tracks and grousers,
Interparts in Hillegom converted many draglines this way. When the original engine needed a rebuilt, many were replaced with Daf 475 and 575 engines.
I have great memories working on these classic machines, happy days. Thanks for sharing, great video's!
Nice machine. Here in the States I learned in a 1947 22B in the mid 70s.
Looks a good machine, I am very envious as I once bought a 22RB with great plans but time was not on my side and I had to sell it on. Looking forward to seeing the restoration. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry to read. When the machines were taken out of operation by the brick factory around 2015, we were informed that machines were for sale. At that time we did not have the opportunity, resources and space to refurbish one of the 2 draglines.
We then informed an acquaintance of ours who bought both machines, of which the normal 22rb was immediately sold to other enthusiasts. After that, the machine stood almost completely still in storage with him for about 6 years, due to lack of space he had to say goodbye to the machine and fortunately he contacted us to ask if we were interested. And we certainly were, opportunity and resources were now available and we were able to place the machine with a neighbor who thinks it is a nice addition to his collection of narrow gauge items.
You never know, there may also be an opportunity for you to become the owner of such a machine, although these chances are getting smaller and smaller
Best regards, Ronan
Good to see you saving another beauty Ronan. I have decided to let someone else enjoy playing in the mud, so my 22RB will be up for sale in the near future. Great video by the way
Fancy meeting YOU here. I was just thinking he needed to contact you and you could sell him one that was already finished!
Too bad you're saying goodbye to your dragline. Transport will be very expensive at such a distance, most expensive old iron traded🤣.
We are already too far along to give up on this machine. Engine is out, undercarriage disconnected, mast dismantled all for the restoration
Now that we are building up more acquaintances in this hobby, we notice that there are still more old machines in the Netherlands than initially thought. Do you still have many machines preserved in your country?
@@cc_machinery I would say there are more down south in Victoria because Dan Taylor said they are cheap to buy where he is. Chris Hooper here in Queensland used to have the biggest collection of draglines and shovels that I have ever seen, but he has moved and I don't know if he kept all of his vintage machines or sold them off. I do know that those who owned these old cranes when they were used in every day work, all know one another and who had what machines. There is a widow and her son who own 2 22RB's a 38B and a 88B out at the Gem Feilds west of Emerald. Anyway, good luck on your rebuild. Cheers Adrian.
Congratulations on your purchase. I learned on a 1947 22B with a Cat D318 In the mid 70s. I know where it is and hope to buy it some day.
@@adriannettlefold9084 Thank you for your response I was curious how this is in your country. Did you buy and refurbish the ruston for a specific project?
That one is in FINE shape all the way around. If I could I left the house unlocked and that helped to turn it easier with the tracks..
Afterwards we found out that the friction bands were not correctly adjusted and due to not using it for a long time, some compressed air components for operating the dragline had deteriorated. In combination with a larger than original base is not always ideal. Although I think it looks like a more powerful machine with this undercarriage.
@@cc_machinery I only operated 3 air controlled, the 30-B, the model-6 and a Lima. All the others were straight manual. That's where you get good at setting up clutches but it's tough if they were worn sideways previously.
@@cc_machinery I forgot about the 22 that had the old Cat 318 pony start that was worn OUT and had to be pushed from place to place. It ran good though.
I believe that the undercarriages and engines were changed in Holland, because DAF engine spares were more readily available, and the grouser type track pads gave a more stable base on soft ground.
Several of them found their way back to the UK - we christened them “magic carpets” because they travelled so smoothly - much better ride than the standard undercarriage !
Looks a really nice machine - did it come from the brick works ?
Kind regards,
Steve A.
Yes, it does come from the brick factory in the Netherlands. This machine is posted at the site of "Trucks and cranes.com". The dragline still is in the Netherlands.
What I understood is that Wynmalen&Hausmann, the distributor at the time, sent the DAF engines and Interparts tractor carriages to the factory in England. Factory fitted but only for Dutch machines.
@@chillywilli Could be, I can't confirm or deny it. In the Netherlands, a smaller company (Nijland Delden, also known in England as Delden Cranes) has been very active in overhauling these machines in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.
In any case, many machines have been converted by them to other versions, for example from mechanical to compressed air operation, but also other undercarriages and engines.
This particular machine has also been completely dismantled there before being delivered to the previous owner.
Fortunately I had the pleasure of meeting the active owner of that period a very interesting conversation, where the specific part numbers could be mentioned without having to look at the parts book. He still is a walking encyclopaedia of Ruston Bucyrus draglines or cranes even after several years of retirement.
Thanks for your response
Ronan
Hi William,
You may well be correct - it would seem more logical. I only have my information second hand, and my memory isn’t as good as it was !
I think that the reasons for the changes are correct, though.
I do have a photograph somewhere, of a newly-built machine with that under carriage fitted, and from the background, I don’t think that it was taken at the Lincoln works . . . .
Coincidentally, I do have a couple of badges from W & H.
Of three that I have known which returned from the Netherlands, one worked at Hams Hall power station, dredging the ash lagoons,
and two came to Benny Cambridge’s yard, to be fitted with scrap handling magnets, before being sold on to recycling yards. They both had Dorman 6DA Diesel engines fitted.
Hi Ronan,
I have met Willi Nijland at Delden, on a few occasions. They were one of several companies involved with the repair and rebuilding of machines, here in the UK.
Was that where the machine was converted to two-lever control ? I would be interested in learning how they did it. All of our machines have three air levers - left one: swing ( or propel ), centre one: front drum - dragline, right one: rear drum - hoist.
is dat een handelaar waar hij stond? stond meer oud materiaal🤩
Nee een goede kennis van ons die ook hobby heeft aan oudere machines
Is this for sale
Nope