I'm 15 and I'm a self-taught aspiring Front end dev. Still learning tho and trying to improve every day and be good enough to become a real developer, living freely, being able to get cool tech stuff. Learning JavaScript at the moment and loving it even though it's tough, everything is tough in life, but the end results are always worth it.
I'm 16 and I've been learning js for 9 months now, I have made some good progress so far! Even though I often find it hard to study because of a lack of motivation, I have already made some small front end projects. It for sure is tough, but as u said, everything is tough in life. I truly wish u all the best in programming!
long as you keep learning and doing projects with relevant languages and frameworks you'll be golden. keep it up, and consider looking into your state scholarships to see if you can get a full ride to get a CS degree.
I’ve been procrastinating on coding because I was scared that I wasn’t smart or talented enough to be a coder and that I’d be stuck in retail for the rest of my life. But now I see people with similar stories that I believe I can do this. I’m 25 having a mid life crisis but I know I can do this.
Bro, as long as you have dreams you are not too old, this life is too short to mean anything I still remember that I was 16 yesterday, A lot happened since without realizing that I could get over my mid-life crisis by converting to Islam. trust Allah and live your life.
Bro I’m 25 too, finishing up my last semester of school, plan to start applying around October for a web development job, but for some reason still don’t feel good enough 😅 tbh it is scary but we gotta keep trying even if we do get rejected. The worst they can say is no lol but keep at it, continue studying and developing projects for your portfolio and start applying 👍
You also need to know how to negotiate a higher salary. I've met devs who are just as good as or even better than me but I make more because they cannot negotiate when it comes to salaries.
Yup. I asked for a very high number and was caught off guard when they agreed to pay me that salary. I was considering asking for 20k less bc this would be 40k higher than the previous job and 40k+ would be too insane. But… I went for it anyway and it worked :).
@@RealChrisSean or anyone else, have you ever negotiated for higher and they went for another candidate (who would take less.) That is my fear, that when I do get a job offer, they try to low ball me and when I ask for more, then they say bye, bye.
4-yr degree in Mechanical Engineering with minor in CS. My wife works as a Front End Software Engineer. Here are her years at jobs, specific industry, job titles, and salaries. 6mo - Defense Contractor - Engineer I (Junior Dev) - $55,000 1yr - Defense Contractor - Engineer II (Mid-Level Dev) - $75,000 2yr - Defense Contractor - Engineer II (Mid-Level Dev) - $95,000 (Remote work) 1yr - Financial Start-up - Engineer III (Lead Front-End Dev Team) - $140,000 (Remote work) (Current) 1mo - Medical Start-up - Engineer IV (Lead 2 teams of Devs) - $180,000 (Remote work) My advice for any software engineering/developer career. 1. Get out of your comfort zone in the job. 2. Continue learning new skills outside of work hours. I spend 15-30 min a day on this. 3. Don't get stuck only using one or two programming languages. More languages equals a more diverse skillset 4. Switch to remote work because you can easily switch jobs without additonal expenses in life life moving or more expensive areas of the country. 5. Only take job opportunities that increase your salary by a minimum of 20% 6. Take as many interviews as possible. The more practice you get, the more comfortable you wil become in them. 7. Do not work for any early Start-ups until you have 3-6 months worth of expenses in a savings account. 8. Always take your new job offer in writing to your current employer to see if they will match or beat the new offer. 9. Move companies often. No one really cares if you work for companies less than a year when you tell them the reason you moved was for a 20% pay increase that your company couldn't match. 10. Never burn bridges with previous employers or co-workers. 11. Always keep your LinkedIn up to date. Recruiting companies have a special account they get from LinkedIn to pull mass data lists to find people. 12. Always keep benefit packages (401k, health insurance, etc.) in mind because they vary vastly from company to company. 13. When you get a job offer in writing, always have the companies HR work out a mock up check so you know exactly how much you will get after taxes and benefits. 14. Always get your sign-on bonus prorated over a year. Never have sign on bonus that ties you to the company for more than a year. 12. (Secret) If you can't negotiate a higher salary and/or larger sign-on bonus, companies will sometime negotiate a higher 401k contribution and/or pay more of your health insurance premiums.
@@jimbo_dilly1675 Thanks for getting back. I referred to what you listed as "12. (Secret)" which should perhaps been number 15? When you said "companies will sometime negotiate a higher 401k contribution" do you mean that the companies will contribute more? Just curious, why would they do that?
@@erik9817 They can do that as an option because some companies have a ridged salary structure and it gives them the opportunity to give you a competitive offer while still working within the companies defined policies. As an example, Department of Defense contractors like Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc. have a hierarchy set up like Software Engineer I, II, III, etc. that is usually based of the number of years in the industry. This means the corporate side of the company has set in stone specific salary ranges for those job titles. That means the hiring manager can only offer you a salary in that specific range, but some will work with you and adjust your health insurance premiums (like pay for you and your family) or contribute a larger percentage to your 401k so “technically” you are paid more, but your yearly salary stays within that established range. Once you get to a certain level in your career, companies understand that they have to be competitive to pull you from your current company and most people once they are earning $150k+ are not gonna be switching companies unless getting a 20%+ pay bump.
Great video! Fun fact: I've seen some studies that show that in order to optimize for salary the most effective job hopping pattern is in roughly a Fibonacci sequence. 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, etc. I'm not sure what size dataset they used or the rigor of the study but it's interesting nonetheless!
@@RealChrisSean head hunted is different from interviewers. I also get head hunted like crazy but I've had interesting responses from the actual interviewers at times.
I have been in tech 3 years, web development, cybersecurity, technical writing, etc, and still only make $30k. My problem is that I still have not buckled down to focus on developing skills in a programming language. I need to build stuff again. I have learned all the concepts, but I lack applied practice. I have built many websites, IT Service Desk, and a lot of impressive stuff. But they were all built on platforms like WordPress, ContentStack, Confluence, etc…. I lack the skills to build from scratch. I want to start building stuff in the basics, like JavaScript, React, PHP, Python, Django, etc…. I just need to jump on the computer earlier each day and dedicate a couple hours before work to building out projects. That is what I need to do. Work is having me back in cybersecurity, learning SQL to work in retrieving reports in databases currently. So I am attempting to learn that for work and also build web application before work for JavaScript.
I know it may be demotivating working such a low paid job when you know you're worth more, but look at the experience as something of value. When you do learn coding and apply to a new job, you'll have 3-4 years experience, when others applying might have none or be fresh out of college.
Best of luck to you and your applied practice. I'm inspired to continue with projects and my CS degree too. I'm also refreshing my SQL for a little personal project. Sometimes I feel quite unfocused in my efforts since I'm not sure what I want to work with. Although lately it's either backend or perhaps trying graphics programming.
@Heidi Jay Wonderful! Congratulations. Sometimes it sucks working a low paying job, but look at the experience as a form of compensation, because in this field, that's what's gonna land you your next job paying much more.
About the college part I was wondering if I made a bad move or not because I applied for 2 years of learning web development but its basically free because of fafsa and grants but at the same time now watching this video I'm realizing I could learn everything myself
jobs are hiring right now.. dont get discouraged. I think the main companies doing the layoffs are the "giants" who over hired during covid. But i was just hired 2 weeks ago for my first job along with 2 other individuals. and they said they are hiring 20 more by the end of the year. its a smaller company that works with DoD contracts. jr. dev pay starts at $65k. my point is, companies are hiring.
@@novanoskillz4151 how much experience do you have? are you self taught? just trying to get some motivation because lately I always feel like it might not even be worth learning this when I could be learning something else.
There's also plenty of college graduates that spend more than 4 years in school and make 60K starting........depends on their skills, portfolios, and what companies they get into. Top graduates sure, they break six figures right out of school. Building projects and experience first so you can work earlier is definitely going to put you ahead though cause that's just what pays in tech. As long as someone in school worked on their skills and excelled in their coursework they can match any other type of developer later on though.
Today I got a job offer for $130k (up from $78k as software engineer with over 4yrs of exp) but I'm hesitant to take it because the senior engineer didn't give me good vibes during the interview. He made it look like him interviewing me was a nuisance based on his body language. I aced all the questions he asked but it felt like he didn't know what he was talking about. Also, their deployment process and the code bases they work with seem like it's a sh!t show. I'm not sure if I should take this offer or not but I'm desperately trying to leave the current company I'm at because my engineering manager is just insane....safe to say my weekend will be spent pondering what I should do.
thats a big bump in pay though. Depends on how long youve been working for your current company and how long you can work with the new one. Leaving jobs too soon doesnt look good on your resume for future employers. Try to keep interviewing and see what pops up. At least now you have options and maybe even some leverage.
4:39 Jquery and PHP.. As a JUMP developer I felt that.. I tried to learn some react and It made me hate Node.js even more.. Node.js is like the unmature incomplete project that some 18 yrold made in the basement of facebook.. I know I'm going to get a lot of flame for this but let me know how many times your MERN stack project has crashed because someone though it would be a great idea to rework half the code base of a library and push it over a update.. Or a your github repository instructions not being viable anymore for compling from source because the stack has been updated 12 times in the last month without you knowing..
I think it depends on where you work, but if you have more than two years of experience, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be making under $100k. Even if you stay at the same company, you should be able to negotiate your salary 2x a year
I fit in this category...i am underpaid and it took quite some time to realise that, 5yrs at one company and I want to change my situation ASAP bcoz I now know that I am not happy ...and i guess am not that great at negotiating, if any tips pls share them, I could really use them.
I'm currently going for my degree in computer science. I'm not trying to make 6 figures. I just want peace and stability. I would LOVE and be GRATEFUL to make 80k in the future! I've never even made over 20k before!
Yo the complacenty think hit me so hard right now. Interviewing with another company that would pay me 69% more take home a week than I make now. But self sabotaging my self cause ive been at my company for 5 years and am extremely comfortable
Honestly, $70k would change my life and pay all my bills and more. Is it bad to think that I would be very comfortable living on that? I keep seeing devs talk about it like that's a meager salary that they would never want to be stuck with.
No it isn't bad imo. If you find a job that you are happy at and your life is comfortable. Do you! But, most of all, if you end up making twice as much, remember what you can comfortably live on. This way, you don't dig yourself into a financial hole. Chris said he was able to leave when he wasn't happy because he lived well below his means.😉
@@gooduH786 yes I agree, we are not the top software engineers in every companies, neither indians are CEO's of google, Microsoft, adobe and other top companies... I request you to teach us , so we could grow as developers 😅
I'm looking to get into some kind of trade but I'm wondering how hard web development is and if there is a trade schools or coding boot camp . I'd be happy even starting out with $60k a year.
hey wassup chris been a min always love your videos very helpful and give me a more grasp on the tech career, I stop for a min doing the tree house courses but im gonna finish for sure is there anything else I should do at the same time ?
Aye Chris! Real quick: happy to see you leveling up the editing of your videos there - much more entertaining! Yet I do think you can tell your video editor to calm down with all that zoom-in action a bit 😂
University for development job is not a good idea. You might get the paper but you will not get the skills. Everything I do at work is shit I taught myself. Don’t stay at a job for too long, salary goes up every switch. Learn a frontend framework like React or Angular. Learning a new trending language will get you paid big time cuz there’s not enough devs so they are will to look over experience, education…plus pay more out of desperation. A few years ago companies were willing to take anyone that even heard of React or Angular now market has stabilized and they want you to be an expert to hire. Last thing, always keep learning or get left behind very quickly.
Do you think coding will be outphased in the future? I'm just afraid of making all this time and effort getting good at it, for it to be replaced or not as sort after.
Coming from 35k a year working culinary industry having to beg for at least 25 cent raise. When you say 85 to 95k imagine the upgrade it would be for me lol
Hell, id settle for 50k just to get enough to get an apartment and off the floor of my boyfriends mom's diningroom. Im really not picky and not down to give up teaching myself to code and practicing interviews just cause i may not start at 6 figures. Ill learn the skills working and find a job willing to pay me for those new skills down the line
One truth is, no one will get to a 6 figures salary in tech that easily, even close to that, outside of the united states. I'm from France, and the guys that make it most likely are CEO's
Far be it for me to disagree, but I'm a little puzzled at why there's this obsession among programmers to strive for six-figure incomes? I mean, you speak of $85k as if that's a poor salary, when it isn't. I realize it varies depending on your location, but TBH if a six-figure income is necessary for you to survive, then maybe the problem isn't compensation, it's your spending habits? I'm not saying I'd turn down a six-figure salary, but honestly $85k is *_plenty_* for me to live like a king the rest of my life. Even with a 2000 sq ft home, and a car note, my total monthly living expenses probably wouldn't exceed $3k-$4k, leaving roughly $3083 - $4083 per month leftover as play money. By the way, this is assuming my wife - who has a BS in Psychology - doesn't contribute an income to the household.
There are a lot of bad assumptions here. I think this would be much more applicable before entering what is an impending recession. Companies are on hiring freezes and even experienced developers are being ousted. In a seemingly remote world, the bar to getting in is even greater than before because it’s really hard to mentor people remotely. So all this talk about maximizing salaries is likely coming to an end for at least a couple of years. The people that worry the least have a combination of things: interview preparedness which means technically a strong grasp of one language and an ability to solve problems live and connections. Yes, connections matter a lot. But an emphasis on commanding one’s language - a lot of people here, especially on Chris’ YT are doing front end web and all think that they know React, but you need to ask yourself how well you know vanilla JS - understanding what async programming is, scoping, closures, promises vs async/await. Very few people understand these things and very few are able to understand the documentation. Without an ability to read and interpret docs, it’s very hard for one to debug a problem…
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If You find this video and have spent more than a year watching others talk, you'll not make 100k 😂 The path to 100k is being better than the rest and really learning from failures not just saying You find learn
Wow, the avarage senior level game developer salary is about 120k-150k per year max :D but it seems it's triple in web development industry i see. That's why i'm learning full stack now, why would i accept that low salaries in game dev even i work like a hell plus almost there is no job security ? Web is the king.
Surely you are not suggesting that in most parts of the country (USA, in your case) USD75K+ is not a good salary, you must have spent too much time watching FAANG-centric videos. If you want to earn six-figures within a few years, become a consultant or subcontractor on projects. Even as a salaried "software developer," I am using the term very broadly in this context, a reasonably competent non-"rockstar, pain-in-the-azz" software developer can earn a six-figure salary within five years. The truth is in some states USD75K is net more take-home pay than USD200K in higher cost-of-living states. If there is a real shortage of software developers why do companies insist on keeping the multi-month, multi-round interview process, most of which is pointless genitalia wack-a-smack on the table by "senior devs (Beavis and Butthead) from the company?"
75k is a good income in California while raising 2 dogs, married, 2 kids and still have money to save and invest in your 401k while also trying to live in a safe neighborhood. What world do you live in?
@@RealChrisSean sorry you made it sound as though 75K was chump change and devalued software developers. I was saying 75K is good money in most of the US. I apologise for misinterpreting your words.
No worries bud. I should give what I mean in context but that would take time as well. I was making 70k in Irvine CA where the average rent is like $3,000/month lol.
I'm 15 and I'm a self-taught aspiring Front end dev. Still learning tho and trying to improve every day and be good enough to become a real developer, living freely, being able to get cool tech stuff. Learning JavaScript at the moment and loving it even though it's tough, everything is tough in life, but the end results are always worth it.
I'm 16 and I've been learning js for 9 months now, I have made some good progress so far! Even though I often find it hard to study because of a lack of motivation, I have already made some small front end projects. It for sure is tough, but as u said, everything is tough in life. I truly wish u all the best in programming!
Keep going guys. Im 18 currently.
Building a few React,Node and MongoDB projects and honestly, Chris has inspired me.
God bless you guys.
yes lets go i'm currently 4 years old turning 5 is few days , learning java and javascript , hope to get a job by next year .
long as you keep learning and doing projects with relevant languages and frameworks you'll be golden. keep it up, and consider looking into your state scholarships to see if you can get a full ride to get a CS degree.
I’ve been procrastinating on coding because I was scared that I wasn’t smart or talented enough to be a coder and that I’d be stuck in retail for the rest of my life. But now I see people with similar stories that I believe I can do this. I’m 25 having a mid life crisis but I know I can do this.
I’m a decade older than you and feel the same way, you aren’t alone
Bro, as long as you have dreams you are not too old, this life is too short to mean anything I still remember that I was 16 yesterday, A lot happened since without realizing that I could get over my mid-life crisis by converting to Islam. trust Allah and live your life.
Bro I’m 25 too, finishing up my last semester of school, plan to start applying around October for a web development job, but for some reason still don’t feel good enough 😅 tbh it is scary but we gotta keep trying even if we do get rejected. The worst they can say is no lol but keep at it, continue studying and developing projects for your portfolio and start applying 👍
Bro I'm 30 and I'm learning for 6 months now lol
Facts not too old at all
90k first job. Interviewing next week for a position that earns 95-125k a year.
Interview skills are vital.
1”0% congrats bud
@@RealChrisSean channels like yours kept my eyes on the prize.
You also need to know how to negotiate a higher salary. I've met devs who are just as good as or even better than me but I make more because they cannot negotiate when it comes to salaries.
Facts
Me not knowing how to negotiate but learning to
The best negotiate statement I've heard is when you make your high counter offer and they say no. You answer "how close can you get?"
Yup. I asked for a very high number and was caught off guard when they agreed to pay me that salary. I was considering asking for 20k less bc this would be 40k higher than the previous job and 40k+ would be too insane.
But… I went for it anyway and it worked :).
@@RealChrisSean or anyone else, have you ever negotiated for higher and they went for another candidate (who would take less.) That is my fear, that when I do get a job offer, they try to low ball me and when I ask for more, then they say bye, bye.
Nice! Your content really helped me find myself as a new Tech RUclipsr that switched careers to the tech industry recently. That's all!
Woooo!
4-yr degree in Mechanical Engineering with minor in CS. My wife works as a Front End Software Engineer. Here are her years at jobs, specific industry, job titles, and salaries.
6mo - Defense Contractor - Engineer I (Junior Dev) - $55,000
1yr - Defense Contractor - Engineer II (Mid-Level Dev) - $75,000
2yr - Defense Contractor - Engineer II (Mid-Level Dev) - $95,000 (Remote work)
1yr - Financial Start-up - Engineer III (Lead Front-End Dev Team) - $140,000 (Remote work)
(Current) 1mo - Medical Start-up - Engineer IV (Lead 2 teams of Devs) - $180,000 (Remote work)
My advice for any software engineering/developer career.
1. Get out of your comfort zone in the job.
2. Continue learning new skills outside of work hours. I spend 15-30 min a day on this.
3. Don't get stuck only using one or two programming languages. More languages equals a more diverse skillset
4. Switch to remote work because you can easily switch jobs without additonal expenses in life life moving or more expensive areas of the country.
5. Only take job opportunities that increase your salary by a minimum of 20%
6. Take as many interviews as possible. The more practice you get, the more comfortable you wil become in them.
7. Do not work for any early Start-ups until you have 3-6 months worth of expenses in a savings account.
8. Always take your new job offer in writing to your current employer to see if they will match or beat the new offer.
9. Move companies often. No one really cares if you work for companies less than a year when you tell them the reason you moved was for a 20% pay increase that your company couldn't match.
10. Never burn bridges with previous employers or co-workers.
11. Always keep your LinkedIn up to date. Recruiting companies have a special account they get from LinkedIn to pull mass data lists to find people.
12. Always keep benefit packages (401k, health insurance, etc.) in mind because they vary vastly from company to company.
13. When you get a job offer in writing, always have the companies HR work out a mock up check so you know exactly how much you will get after taxes and benefits.
14. Always get your sign-on bonus prorated over a year. Never have sign on bonus that ties you to the company for more than a year.
12. (Secret) If you can't negotiate a higher salary and/or larger sign-on bonus, companies will sometime negotiate a higher 401k contribution and/or pay more of your health insurance premiums.
I don't get 12, why would companies pay more voluntarily?
@@erik9817 Explain in more detail what you are referring to.
@@jimbo_dilly1675 Thanks for getting back. I referred to what you listed as "12. (Secret)" which should perhaps been number 15?
When you said "companies will sometime negotiate a higher 401k contribution" do you mean that the companies will contribute more? Just curious, why would they do that?
@@erik9817 They can do that as an option because some companies have a ridged salary structure and it gives them the opportunity to give you a competitive offer while still working within the companies defined policies. As an example, Department of Defense contractors like Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc. have a hierarchy set up like Software Engineer I, II, III, etc. that is usually based of the number of years in the industry. This means the corporate side of the company has set in stone specific salary ranges for those job titles. That means the hiring manager can only offer you a salary in that specific range, but some will work with you and adjust your health insurance premiums (like pay for you and your family) or contribute a larger percentage to your 401k so “technically” you are paid more, but your yearly salary stays within that established range. Once you get to a certain level in your career, companies understand that they have to be competitive to pull you from your current company and most people once they are earning $150k+ are not gonna be switching companies unless getting a 20%+ pay bump.
Yoo, Video quality is SO COOL!
Max’s welcome back! Thanks bud.
I really don't care if I make it to 6 fig I just care that I can pay all my bills, live comfortable and travel when I want or take a break if I want
Great video! Fun fact: I've seen some studies that show that in order to optimize for salary the most effective job hopping pattern is in roughly a Fibonacci sequence. 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, etc. I'm not sure what size dataset they used or the rigor of the study but it's interesting nonetheless!
To be honest, as an interviewer I'd be sus of someone who had 4 jobs in 7 years. Unless that was role changes in 1 or 2 companies.
I had 5 in 6. Ppl are still trying to head hunt me
@@RealChrisSean lol yeah that doesn't surprise me XD
@@RealChrisSean head hunted is different from interviewers. I also get head hunted like crazy but I've had interesting responses from the actual interviewers at times.
I have been in tech 3 years, web development, cybersecurity, technical writing, etc, and still only make $30k. My problem is that I still have not buckled down to focus on developing skills in a programming language. I need to build stuff again. I have learned all the concepts, but I lack applied practice. I have built many websites, IT Service Desk, and a lot of impressive stuff. But they were all built on platforms like WordPress, ContentStack, Confluence, etc…. I lack the skills to build from scratch. I want to start building stuff in the basics, like JavaScript, React, PHP, Python, Django, etc…. I just need to jump on the computer earlier each day and dedicate a couple hours before work to building out projects. That is what I need to do. Work is having me back in cybersecurity, learning SQL to work in retrieving reports in databases currently. So I am attempting to learn that for work and also build web application before work for JavaScript.
I know it may be demotivating working such a low paid job when you know you're worth more, but look at the experience as something of value. When you do learn coding and apply to a new job, you'll have 3-4 years experience, when others applying might have none or be fresh out of college.
Best of luck to you and your applied practice. I'm inspired to continue with projects and my CS degree too. I'm also refreshing my SQL for a little personal project. Sometimes I feel quite unfocused in my efforts since I'm not sure what I want to work with. Although lately it's either backend or perhaps trying graphics programming.
@@guitarskooter Thank you for the encouragement.
All the hard work paid off. I landed a job in cyber security more than double what I was.
@Heidi Jay Wonderful! Congratulations. Sometimes it sucks working a low paying job, but look at the experience as a form of compensation, because in this field, that's what's gonna land you your next job paying much more.
I really like the video quality and your editing well done!
Woah thanks! If you don't mind sharing, what do you like about it? I'll listen to anything to help me improve my content. Ty!!!
About the college part I was wondering if I made a bad move or not because I applied for 2 years of learning web development but its basically free because of fafsa and grants but at the same time now watching this video I'm realizing I could learn everything myself
Nope. You learned for free so you lost nothing.
In the same boat as you. Currently active duty military getting my degree paid for
I’m going the self taught route. 3 months in. Just getting a little discouraged with all the tech layoffs and what not
jobs are hiring right now.. dont get discouraged. I think the main companies doing the layoffs are the "giants" who over hired during covid. But i was just hired 2 weeks ago for my first job along with 2 other individuals. and they said they are hiring 20 more by the end of the year. its a smaller company that works with DoD contracts. jr. dev pay starts at $65k. my point is, companies are hiring.
@@novanoskillz4151 Same I got a nice position in a financial technology company 2 months ago and I love it!
@@novanoskillz4151 how much experience do you have? are you self taught? just trying to get some motivation because lately I always feel like it might not even be worth learning this when I could be learning something else.
that really shouldn't deter you, if you're good you'll never have any trouble finding jobs
As long as the internet is around there will always be a job in tech for you
I'm currently an entry level dev at my first job. I'm making under 100k.
The goal is to reach Chris level lol
tips?
4 years of college with CS degree in Ireland and your starting salary is 35k a year. 50k a year after a few years. 70-100k for senior dev
Awesome Stuff Man 👍🏿👏🏾
As a Laravel, Vue, & TS dev I make 140k with the potential to make 210k. Not sure why people think that there is no money in the LAMP stack.
Sure is. Not as popular and in demand as it used to be. Just depends on the company.
There is a big stigma that PHP is easy to learn and generally free to use so companies should pay less..
There's also plenty of college graduates that spend more than 4 years in school and make 60K starting........depends on their skills, portfolios, and what companies they get into. Top graduates sure, they break six figures right out of school. Building projects and experience first so you can work earlier is definitely going to put you ahead though cause that's just what pays in tech. As long as someone in school worked on their skills and excelled in their coursework they can match any other type of developer later on though.
When I graduated I was making 35k. It should be a crime!!!
Today I got a job offer for $130k (up from $78k as software engineer with over 4yrs of exp) but I'm hesitant to take it because the senior engineer didn't give me good vibes during the interview. He made it look like him interviewing me was a nuisance based on his body language. I aced all the questions he asked but it felt like he didn't know what he was talking about. Also, their deployment process and the code bases they work with seem like it's a sh!t show. I'm not sure if I should take this offer or not but I'm desperately trying to leave the current company I'm at because my engineering manager is just insane....safe to say my weekend will be spent pondering what I should do.
thats a big bump in pay though. Depends on how long youve been working for your current company and how long you can work with the new one. Leaving jobs too soon doesnt look good on your resume for future employers. Try to keep interviewing and see what pops up. At least now you have options and maybe even some leverage.
Thank you so much for your insight brother 🙏😷
Thanks for watching$
4:39 Jquery and PHP.. As a JUMP developer I felt that.. I tried to learn some react and It made me hate Node.js even more.. Node.js is like the unmature incomplete project that some 18 yrold made in the basement of facebook.. I know I'm going to get a lot of flame for this but let me know how many times your MERN stack project has crashed because someone though it would be a great idea to rework half the code base of a library and push it over a update.. Or a your github repository instructions not being viable anymore for compling from source because the stack has been updated 12 times in the last month without you knowing..
I think it depends on where you work, but if you have more than two years of experience, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be making under $100k. Even if you stay at the same company, you should be able to negotiate your salary 2x a year
Definitely depends on the company
What are the weekly work hours for 100k per year
@@TopStrikerMaverick40
I fit in this category...i am underpaid and it took quite some time to realise that, 5yrs at one company and I want to change my situation ASAP bcoz I now know that I am not happy ...and i guess am not that great at negotiating, if any tips pls share them, I could really use them.
I’ll create this for the next video
can i know how much do you get paid/month? for now and 6 months ago?
When you said that your friends' companies "only" give 5-10k raises I was like WTF! I went from $14hr to $14.50hr last year. I'd love a 5k raise😅
Very different in tech lol
I'm currently going for my degree in computer science. I'm not trying to make 6 figures. I just want peace and stability. I would LOVE and be GRATEFUL to make 80k in the future! I've never even made over 20k before!
Looking sharp homie
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Hey Chris what stack are you working with these days?
Yo the complacenty think hit me so hard right now. Interviewing with another company that would pay me 69% more take home a week than I make now. But self sabotaging my self cause ive been at my company for 5 years and am extremely comfortable
69% is huge and life changing
@@RealChrisSean yea would be life changing.
Honestly, $70k would change my life and pay all my bills and more. Is it bad to think that I would be very comfortable living on that? I keep seeing devs talk about it like that's a meager salary that they would never want to be stuck with.
No it isn't bad imo. If you find a job that you are happy at and your life is comfortable. Do you!
But, most of all, if you end up making twice as much, remember what you can comfortably live on. This way, you don't dig yourself into a financial hole. Chris said he was able to leave when he wasn't happy because he lived well below his means.😉
$70 would change my life too! I just started looking!
Yup. I save 5k/m after all expenses aka I can live without a job for a long time lol
Please make a video on freelance roadmap for freshers , btw love ur videos, love from India 🇮🇳❤
indians are some of the worst devs
@@gooduH786 yes I agree, we are not the top software engineers in every companies, neither indians are CEO's of google, Microsoft, adobe and other top companies...
I request you to teach us , so we could grow as developers 😅
I'm looking to get into some kind of trade but I'm wondering how hard web development is and if there is a trade schools or coding boot camp . I'd be happy even starting out with $60k a year.
hey wassup chris been a min always love your videos very helpful and give me a more grasp on the tech career, I stop for a min doing the tree house courses but im gonna finish for sure is there anything else I should do at the same time ?
Some language specialties and/or frameworks pay more outright as well. Supply and demand.
Can anyone tell me how to find or keep updates to the latest technology or software? Or Website to keep track. It would be greatly appreciated.
Aye Chris! Real quick: happy to see you leveling up the editing of your videos there - much more entertaining! Yet I do think you can tell your video editor to calm down with all that zoom-in action a bit 😂
Sorry. It helps so much with audience retention so that will stay haha.
Fair enough 😄
That’s very interesting especially the college and self taught comparison
University for development job is not a good idea. You might get the paper but you will not get the skills. Everything I do at work is shit I taught myself. Don’t stay at a job for too long, salary goes up every switch. Learn a frontend framework like React or Angular. Learning a new trending language will get you paid big time cuz there’s not enough devs so they are will to look over experience, education…plus pay more out of desperation. A few years ago companies were willing to take anyone that even heard of React or Angular now market has stabilized and they want you to be an expert to hire. Last thing, always keep learning or get left behind very quickly.
Thanks for the video. Im kinda scared after graduating lol. But Ill work to overcome that.
I’m going to go to school only for the certificate program and my job will pay my full tuition.
Do you think coding will be outphased in the future? I'm just afraid of making all this time and effort getting good at it, for it to be replaced or not as sort after.
Nope not at all
Could u make a video about how to learn languages u don't know on the job ?
Coming from 35k a year working culinary industry having to beg for at least 25 cent raise. When you say 85 to 95k imagine the upgrade it would be for me lol
Hell, id settle for 50k just to get enough to get an apartment and off the floor of my boyfriends mom's diningroom. Im really not picky and not down to give up teaching myself to code and practicing interviews just cause i may not start at 6 figures. Ill learn the skills working and find a job willing to pay me for those new skills down the line
Is before or after taxes?
Before
Sir may i ask on what age you started tobe a web developer?
26/27 yrs old
Thank you 🙏🏼
One truth is, no one will get to a 6 figures salary in tech that easily, even close to that, outside of the united states. I'm from France, and the guys that make it most likely are CEO's
Hey, need the next video like right now.
do i need leetcode as a frontend guy
Yup
Awesome video 📸📸
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If I can start at 70k I'd be happy. Work my way up to the bigger $$
Far be it for me to disagree, but I'm a little puzzled at why there's this obsession among programmers to strive for six-figure incomes?
I mean, you speak of $85k as if that's a poor salary, when it isn't. I realize it varies depending on your location, but TBH if a six-figure income is necessary for you to survive, then maybe the problem isn't compensation, it's your spending habits?
I'm not saying I'd turn down a six-figure salary, but honestly $85k is *_plenty_* for me to live like a king the rest of my life. Even with a 2000 sq ft home, and a car note, my total monthly living expenses probably wouldn't exceed $3k-$4k, leaving roughly $3083 - $4083 per month leftover as play money. By the way, this is assuming my wife - who has a BS in Psychology - doesn't contribute an income to the household.
There are a lot of bad assumptions here. I think this would be much more applicable before entering what is an impending recession. Companies are on hiring freezes and even experienced developers are being ousted. In a seemingly remote world, the bar to getting in is even greater than before because it’s really hard to mentor people remotely. So all this talk about maximizing salaries is likely coming to an end for at least a couple of years. The people that worry the least have a combination of things: interview preparedness which means technically a strong grasp of one language and an ability to solve problems live and connections. Yes, connections matter a lot. But an emphasis on commanding one’s language - a lot of people here, especially on Chris’ YT are doing front end web and all think that they know React, but you need to ask yourself how well you know vanilla JS - understanding what async programming is, scoping, closures, promises vs async/await. Very few people understand these things and very few are able to understand the documentation. Without an ability to read and interpret docs, it’s very hard for one to debug a problem…
i'm a dev in a third world country still stuck at making $20k a year lol.. and ya'll out here talking about 80k, 100k jobs
Thanks teacher
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im 26 this year (2023), I earn 16k a year
do you working as a front end developer?
@@yokoso2386 fullstack developer, back and forth
If You find this video and have spent more than a year watching others talk, you'll not make 100k 😂
The path to 100k is being better than the rest and really learning from failures not just saying You find learn
Took me 5 years to surpass 100k. There’s nothing wrong with taking longer than others to do it.
@@RealChrisSean my point is that the grind and striving for excellence is what will have someone standout
@@tony310430 I see. I agree then :)
Wow, the avarage senior level game developer salary is about 120k-150k per year max :D but it seems it's triple in web development industry i see. That's why i'm learning full stack now, why would i accept that low salaries in game dev even i work like a hell plus almost there is no job security ? Web is the king.
Surely you are not suggesting that in most parts of the country (USA, in your case) USD75K+ is not a good salary, you must have spent too much time watching FAANG-centric videos. If you want to earn six-figures within a few years, become a consultant or subcontractor on projects. Even as a salaried "software developer," I am using the term very broadly in this context, a reasonably competent non-"rockstar, pain-in-the-azz" software developer can earn a six-figure salary within five years. The truth is in some states USD75K is net more take-home pay than USD200K in higher cost-of-living states.
If there is a real shortage of software developers why do companies insist on keeping the multi-month, multi-round interview process, most of which is pointless genitalia wack-a-smack on the table by "senior devs (Beavis and Butthead) from the company?"
75k is a good income in California while raising 2 dogs, married, 2 kids and still have money to save and invest in your 401k while also trying to live in a safe neighborhood. What world do you live in?
@@RealChrisSean sorry you made it sound as though 75K was chump change and devalued software developers. I was saying 75K is good money in most of the US. I apologise for misinterpreting your words.
No worries bud. I should give what I mean in context but that would take time as well.
I was making 70k in Irvine CA where the average rent is like $3,000/month lol.
I'm 20 , and i did a lot of coke.
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This guy is like Obama.
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Could u make a video about how to learn languages u don't know on the job ?