:):) its not a semi western grip but an eastern grip !!! ( indexfinger knuckle is on bevel 3 ) which means that the racket has now the same position of the hand !!! So if you go with hand to the ball you dont have to worry about your racket position or angle of the racket because it will be the same of your hand !!! The movement of the wrist he is talking about is the radial to ulnar devition ( or you can call it the hammer movement ) because his hand is already in position before contact he can make that movent in to contact which creates rackethead speed and by that more power without actualy changing the angle of the racket. if you have any question feel free to ask ( tennisaddict for over 40 years , the channel is not bad but here and there some little mistakes )
Exactly why I was reading comments, to me it looked more like an eastern grip and I too agree the content of this channel is great but with some mistakes in translation. Thank you for your comment. Of course, thank you STA for your valuable content.
Whatever works. I really enjoyed this unique difference of technique. Thank you Star Bright for showing alternatives to "standard" rules of how to hit .
Loving the Channel... that’s is the exact way I hit the volley, but used to teach it in a “conventional” continental grip way. Won’t anymore though. Thank you for the video!
Great. Finally I found someone else who volleys with SW grip !!!! I can volley with continental grip but years ago I switched to SW bc I realized it's easier to not have to switch the grip, mostly in doubles and I also hit BH volleys with a SW grip. Also this theory would help a lot ,wheelchair players bc the only grip they can play with is SW(they have to roll the wheel with both hands) and would not have to change the grip. Also allows more carving and drop volleys .I mention that I am a teaching pro...so things didn't come accidentally ...
Me too. As long as I'm close to the net, stay low, lag my wrist, and keep my arm out in front of me, I can pancake all volleys...no switching between forehand and backhand. It frustrates hard hitters who are used to winning with bodyshots. I learned this in pickleball where the name of the game is hand-speed and bodyshots at the net. How did you figure this out?
@@jeffreybartlett4899 In 2010/2011 at US Open, I watched Dolgopolov hitting slices . He was one of the most un- ortodox players.Serve, slices, drops. His grips for slices looked different than the continental .That allowed more carving. So I worked around one year to change the grip for slices/ drop shots and volleys. Regardless I can hit with continental , is so much more fun to hit slices with reverse grips/meaning-BH slice with FH semi-western and Fh slice with eastern Bh grip.I do the same on drop shots. I mastered different types of dropshots , the ones that come back to the net or the ones that roll out parallel or almost to the net. In 2010 I was hurt so I learned to hit sound shots lefty too. That helps also to understand the technique
not knew , already more then 40 years old but because some big names telling that you need a continental grip , everybody is using a continentel grip. Thats the problem with the volley we see today because the forehand has changed and the backhand has changed but the volley stays the same . think about that
omg, thanks for this video! i thought i was the only one to hit with a semi western grip on the volley. Actually i use both the continental and the semi western grips for my fh volley.
Previously a D1 player turned coach tried to correct my grip to this method for more penetration, but I find it lacking versatility for my game. Yes that my volley has more pop, but now I don’t have the option of changing my shot to a drop (stop volley) or a lob or a forehand slice from the same grip. This grip would be good for singles player since the volley has to be the shot that finishes the point. But it’s terrible for doubles where it limits the creativity & the disguise.
The video said he was the No 1 doubles player in Japan. Note that it is actuallyeasten grip. So I am sure you could do most of the things you mentioned. I am not sure what you mean by stop volley. Short ball with heavy backspin? The only thing I could think of is swing volley. You would definitely change the grip unless you play eastern forehand.
I would argue the opposite. Doubles leaves less time after contact, so it is ideal to have a shorter swing and keep the ball out in front (hence why he is such a good doubles player; also note the volleying differences between the top singles vs doubles players - the grip isn't often different, but the pre-contact portion of the swing vs the after-portion are). The closer you go towards continental grip, the closer the ball has to come to you, and the less of a timing advantage you have.
the drop volley is all about the power you put on the grip so if you loosing up at contact you can perfectly play a drop with that grip , the lob is much easier if you understand that the racket with the eastern grip has the same position of your hand and the same for the slice if you go with hand to the ball the racket will have the same position and you just go with your hand to the back of the ball making a perfect slice
That is still a eastern grip. Semi western is the thumb pad go beyond the ridge of the longer bevel of the handle. It is impossible to volley good with a true semi western grip.
The swing is called stop and pop by another coach. It's better for doubles because it adds a lot more pace to the ball. I also discovered this by playing mini-tennis and just trying to be aggressive on the volley. The semi-western grip is how I started volleying but I went to continental when I couldn't do a good backhand volley. I'm not sure what he recommends for the backhand.
Agreed. In my own experience, there are two distinct types of volley that this video failed to address. With a fast incoming ball, this compact version where I squeeze the racquet handle to pop the ball & stop the finish swing, is what I use. But with a floaty & slow ball, I actually have generate my own pace by using a longer finish, & even run through the shot if needed.
we see wally every where :):) he is using the eastern grip and not a semi western grip ( indexfinger knuckle is on bevel 3 ) and i think you talk about 15points............
I find the biggest advantage when close to the net...no switching from forehand to backhand on bodyshots...pancake everything. As long as I stay low and lag my wrist enough I can pancake even the lowest shots. What do you think?
If close to the next and staying low...there is no backhand...everything's a pancake. This is the #1 advantage but they don't realize this yet...or they don't want to give up the secret :) haha
Hi if you can stay on the same plane ball path makes without crossing over on the front of you to early. Also try to keep your eyes on level with the ball even on a low volley
It's more a sort of drive volley. I'd not advise it. Look at Brown, Paire or likes. They have many specific personal shots. Would those ones good for all?
dont worry , it works perfect ( because its the left hand that will put the racket in position ) just dont stay following the sheeps who are telling for 50 years how to do it. they have changed the forehand and the backhand but never touched the volley. think about that
@@thereisnogod3924 it is just basic physics. With this grip, your racket will not have an optimal position (way to open). And at the net you clearly do not have time to adjust your grip with your left hand. And for the "progress or change": do not think people wer dumb for the past 50years... There are reasons why there were changes with the different strokes and it is mainly due to the rise of modern rackets. But a volley even with a wooden racket will still be a volley...
@@keyzer380 you dont understand what i mean with the left hand brings the racket in position. the left hand doesnt turn the racket into a different grip. the grip stays the same and if you play with continental or eastern it doesnt make such a difference. ( Which country you from ?? )
@@thereisnogod3924 are you saying the backhand volley is Easten grip? My question is how do you solve the problem for rocket had open too much when hitting ?
I have no doubt that this guy is a good player, but I think it's fair to say that he's an outlier, right? Surely most pros would think it's really strange to hit volleys with semi-western grip.
@@hafadaze9046 I use for volleys, serve and backhand slice a grip that is just between eastern forehand and continental. I tried continental but it never worked for me.
@@miguelbarahona6636 yes even nadal uses that grip for his slice instead of continental even at me first I was using that grip n ppl be telling me it’s wrong lol
@@hafadaze9046 i see not 1 reason why it should be high open. take that eastern grip and take your ready position and now turn and watch the racket! now take the continentel grip and turn and tell me how much difference there is ??
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Its great to have English translation. Arigato gozaimasu
:):) its not a semi western grip but an eastern grip !!! ( indexfinger knuckle is on bevel 3 ) which means that the racket has now the same position of the hand !!! So if you go with hand to the ball you dont have to worry about your racket position or angle of the racket because it will be the same of your hand !!! The movement of the wrist he is talking about is the radial to ulnar devition ( or you can call it the hammer movement ) because his hand is already in position before contact he can make that movent in to contact which creates rackethead speed and by that more power without actualy changing the angle of the racket. if you have any question feel free to ask ( tennisaddict for over 40 years , the channel is not bad but here and there some little mistakes )
Exactly why I was reading comments, to me it looked more like an eastern grip and I too agree the content of this channel is great but with some mistakes in translation. Thank you for your comment. Of course, thank you STA for your valuable content.
I review this video with English Subtitle, then realize the value of the work from these masters. Thank you so much.
I burst out laughing at 4:50 when he said "OK, let's stop shooting"
So glad after 6 months. new video uploaded. Even with English subtitle. Awesome
One of the best tennis lecture youtube! Grats from South Korea :)
Whatever works. I really enjoyed this unique difference of technique. Thank you Star Bright for showing alternatives to "standard" rules of how to hit .
Thanks you so much for English subtitles. I really appreciate it. I am waiting for the next lessons in English.
Loving the Channel... that’s is the exact way I hit the volley, but used to teach it in a “conventional” continental grip way. Won’t anymore though.
Thank you for the video!
EXCELLENT LESSON. THANK YOU. TOMORROW I WILL START PRACTICING.
Great. Finally I found someone else who volleys with SW grip !!!! I can volley with continental grip but years ago I switched to SW bc I realized it's easier to not have to switch the grip, mostly in doubles and I also hit BH volleys with a SW grip.
Also this theory would help a lot ,wheelchair players bc the only grip they can play with is SW(they have to roll the wheel with both hands) and would not have to change the grip. Also allows more carving and drop volleys .I mention that I am a teaching pro...so things didn't come accidentally ...
Me too. As long as I'm close to the net, stay low, lag my wrist, and keep my arm out in front of me, I can pancake all volleys...no switching between forehand and backhand. It frustrates hard hitters who are used to winning with bodyshots. I learned this in pickleball where the name of the game is hand-speed and bodyshots at the net. How did you figure this out?
@@jeffreybartlett4899 In 2010/2011 at US Open, I watched Dolgopolov hitting slices . He was one of the most un- ortodox players.Serve, slices, drops. His grips for slices looked different than the continental .That allowed more carving. So I worked around one year to change the grip for slices/ drop shots and volleys. Regardless I can hit with continental , is so much more fun to hit slices with reverse grips/meaning-BH slice with FH semi-western and Fh slice with eastern Bh grip.I do the same on drop shots. I mastered different types of dropshots , the ones that come back to the net or the ones that roll out parallel or almost to the net. In 2010 I was hurt so I learned to hit sound shots lefty too. That helps also to understand the technique
Bring back your amazing videos
Amazing! Really new theory! But as long as it works well, this will be fantastic! Could you make another video on his backhand volley, please?
not knew , already more then 40 years old but because some big names telling that you need a continental grip , everybody is using a continentel grip. Thats the problem with the volley we see today because the forehand has changed and the backhand has changed but the volley stays the same . think about that
Looks like a strong eastern grip or weak semi western
omg, thanks for this video! i thought i was the only one to hit with a semi western grip on the volley. Actually i use both the continental and the semi western grips for my fh volley.
Fascinating, can't wait to try it out
Previously a D1 player turned coach tried to correct my grip to this method for more penetration, but I find it lacking versatility for my game. Yes that my volley has more pop, but now I don’t have the option of changing my shot to a drop (stop volley) or a lob or a forehand slice from the same grip. This grip would be good for singles player since the volley has to be the shot that finishes the point. But it’s terrible for doubles where it limits the creativity & the disguise.
The video said he was the No 1 doubles player in Japan. Note that it is actuallyeasten grip. So I am sure you could do most of the things you mentioned. I am not sure what you mean by stop volley. Short ball with heavy backspin? The only thing I could think of is swing volley. You would definitely change the grip unless you play eastern forehand.
I would argue the opposite. Doubles leaves less time after contact, so it is ideal to have a shorter swing and keep the ball out in front (hence why he is such a good doubles player; also note the volleying differences between the top singles vs doubles players - the grip isn't often different, but the pre-contact portion of the swing vs the after-portion are). The closer you go towards continental grip, the closer the ball has to come to you, and the less of a timing advantage you have.
the drop volley is all about the power you put on the grip so if you loosing up at contact you can perfectly play a drop with that grip , the lob is much easier if you understand that the racket with the eastern grip has the same position of your hand and the same for the slice if you go with hand to the ball the racket will have the same position and you just go with your hand to the back of the ball making a perfect slice
It enables pancaking all volleys when close to the net...so you can't get beat with a hard bodyshot. This has been a BIG advantage for me in doubles.
@@andrewchinnes468 Bingo!
That is still a eastern grip. Semi western is the thumb pad go beyond the ridge of the longer bevel of the handle. It is impossible to volley good with a true semi western grip.
Agreed 100% good luck volleying with a true semi-western lol.
Not to mention the backhand volley with a semiwestern grip...
Its a semi western honestly if u believe it or not.
Look again 1:28
It look different cause of his wrist position
@@tenniscoach.bruggenwerth 1:42. The thumb pad did not leave the ridge of the longer bevel. That is a eastern grip.
Thank you Kondo san, I will try this! 🙏🏼🧎🏽🧘🏽
Do you switch grip for backhand volley. Still semiwestern grip?
The swing is called stop and pop by another coach. It's better for doubles because it adds a lot more pace to the ball. I also discovered this by playing mini-tennis and just trying to be aggressive on the volley. The semi-western grip is how I started volleying but I went to continental when I couldn't do a good backhand volley. I'm not sure what he recommends for the backhand.
Agreed. In my own experience, there are two distinct types of volley that this video failed to address. With a fast incoming ball, this compact version where I squeeze the racquet handle to pop the ball & stop the finish swing, is what I use. But with a floaty & slow ball, I actually have generate my own pace by using a longer finish, & even run through the shot if needed.
we see wally every where :):) he is using the eastern grip and not a semi western grip ( indexfinger knuckle is on bevel 3 ) and i think you talk about 15points............
Thank you for the class, but can you explain the difference between the grips, how to hold your racket.👍
Thank you for sharing.🌞🌛🙏
Looks like an eastern FH grip to me rather than semiwestern. I would be curious to see how he hits angled volleys, drop volleys with this grip.
Agreed. It is more of a eastern than a semi-western, must have misinterpreted during translation.
I find the biggest advantage when close to the net...no switching from forehand to backhand on bodyshots...pancake everything. As long as I stay low and lag my wrist enough I can pancake even the lowest shots. What do you think?
Could you do a follow up video with the same guy and do a backhand volley thanks great video
If close to the next and staying low...there is no backhand...everything's a pancake. This is the #1 advantage but they don't realize this yet...or they don't want to give up the secret :) haha
thank you , it is a very good lesson
英語字幕をありがとう (= thanks for the English subtitles!)
Thank you for English sub ^^
Hi if you can stay on the same plane ball path makes without crossing over on the front of you to early. Also try to keep your eyes on level with the ball even on a low volley
I'm alway struggling with the contintental grip on my forehand volleys. I will try this instead.
When I experiment with changing grips between forehand and backhand volleys, it makes my volleys really inconsistent.
same grip on forehand and backhand (semi-western for both)
I agree with that. It goes too fast. Especially on doubles.
Good
How does he hit a backhand volley with the same grip I wish they would have shown the backhand
because the left hand puts the racket in position, try it with low , mid and high volley . its easy
I'm trying this now. forehand is ok but backhand doesn't seem to work. Can you show backhand volley demonstrations?
This is the better way to do volley
How do you do a backhand volley with a semi-western grip?
hes using a eastern grip not a semi western because the indexfinger knuckle is on 3
It's more a sort of drive volley. I'd not advise it. Look at Brown, Paire or likes. They have many specific personal shots. Would those ones good for all?
What racket is Kondo using? It's not the Rexis right?
That grip would be good for hitting half volleys.
Kondo san really looks like 半沢直樹 🤣 倍返し
Highly doubt this grip for BH volley.
dont worry , it works perfect ( because its the left hand that will put the racket in position ) just dont stay following the sheeps who are telling for 50 years how to do it. they have changed the forehand and the backhand but never touched the volley. think about that
@@thereisnogod3924 it is just basic physics. With this grip, your racket will not have an optimal position (way to open). And at the net you clearly do not have time to adjust your grip with your left hand. And for the "progress or change": do not think people wer dumb for the past 50years... There are reasons why there were changes with the different strokes and it is mainly due to the rise of modern rackets. But a volley even with a wooden racket will still be a volley...
@@keyzer380 you dont understand what i mean with the left hand brings the racket in position. the left hand doesnt turn the racket into a different grip. the grip stays the same and if you play with continental or eastern it doesnt make such a difference. ( Which country you from ?? )
@@thereisnogod3924 are you saying the backhand volley is Easten grip? My question is how do you solve the problem for rocket had open too much when hitting ?
I have no doubt that this guy is a good player, but I think it's fair to say that he's an outlier, right? Surely most pros would think it's really strange to hit volleys with semi-western grip.
That ain’t semi 😂 that’s a full eastern grip
Yes, Kondo uses an eastern forehand grip for volleys (just like Rafa Nadal).
@@miguelbarahona6636 it does help honestly I use it for very low volleys. But I don’t recommend it for the bh
@@hafadaze9046 I use for volleys, serve and backhand slice a grip that is just between eastern forehand and continental. I tried continental but it never worked for me.
@@miguelbarahona6636 yes even nadal uses that grip for his slice instead of continental even at me first I was using that grip n ppl be telling me it’s wrong lol
Where is miss kiwa Chan ?? 😇
I think it is already known as a drive volley
Thats how i do volley too, no follow up. Modern racquets are too powerful
With that grip, wouldn’t the backhand volley racket face be too upward?
That's what I'm saying!
I think he inked uses it for forehand I use the same grip as well
no it wont because its the left hand that brings the racket in position
@@thereisnogod3924 he’s talking about the grip so he’s correct the face will be high up with that grip
@@hafadaze9046 i see not 1 reason why it should be high open. take that eastern grip and take your ready position and now turn and watch the racket! now take the continentel grip and turn and tell me how much difference there is ??
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Frankly, I enjoy the closing statement the most!
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Isn't Japan no.1 doubles player Ben McLachlan？