Legends ALL-TIME argument over Ponga's selection backflip: Freddy & the Eighth - Ep24 | NRL on Nine

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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

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  • @Scooty_Scooty
    @Scooty_Scooty 3 месяца назад +39

    All the drama about Ponga not wanting to play for Aus has caused some journos to say he should be banned from Origin but they make no mention of the players who play Origin but choose other nations over Aus being banned.

    • @RobinFrost-h4v
      @RobinFrost-h4v 3 месяца назад +3

      To be fair Origin is for Australians and he made his choice. If people are having it both ways that should change not become normalised.

    • @HoppaRay23
      @HoppaRay23 3 месяца назад

      Players can play for other nations over Aus as well as origin depending on the nation and how good they are… it’s the rules

    • @Scooty_Scooty
      @Scooty_Scooty 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HoppaRay23 yeah I know it's the rules but if it's ok for other Origin players to say nope to Aus and instead select another nation then it should be ok for Ponga to say nope to Aus without it impacting his Origin chances.

    • @janicewilson-tx4ck
      @janicewilson-tx4ck 3 месяца назад +2

      It's people's choice ? ❤ the most important thing in life is knowing where you come from 😊

    • @74aussieguy
      @74aussieguy 3 месяца назад

      Good point the ones that choose their nation have that much pride for their country they don't consider origin Ponga has obviously not enough admiration for his country that he put his club first according to John's playing for Australia is a choice not a privilege which it should be one of the highest honour

  • @Hyphen_1781
    @Hyphen_1781 3 месяца назад +95

    The fact they wanna ban Ponga for games is extremely stupid.

    • @Londonman564
      @Londonman564 3 месяца назад

      Cos he's maori that's why

    • @Scooty_Scooty
      @Scooty_Scooty 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Londonman564 ow chur bro

    • @TwoFourFourFour
      @TwoFourFourFour 3 месяца назад

      Biggest beat up I’ve seen in years

    • @44shots6worlds
      @44shots6worlds 3 месяца назад

      *Hope*

    • @RobinFrost-h4v
      @RobinFrost-h4v 3 месяца назад

      @@Londonman564 Oh my god, black people and their imaginary problems 🤦

  • @fryyz9674
    @fryyz9674 3 месяца назад +57

    Agree with joey, you can’t make someone play if they don’t want to play(obviously different if it’s your club) it’s too much footy in a season plus origin. I know he played 12 games but all the injured and head knocks he’s had why risk it. Plus being from newy all time away from his family in syd/qld/melb.

    • @wperfect
      @wperfect 3 месяца назад +4

      Agreed, just never consider him for selection in future

    • @Sydneysideliner
      @Sydneysideliner 3 месяца назад

      Guessing the concern's entirely around managing his health, and he's not just finding ways to dodge a roos call up. So the onus is on Mal to fully use his squad. If it's a tournament it can't be the same team each game

    • @JamesWillis-yy5px
      @JamesWillis-yy5px 3 месяца назад +1

      Correct, his had repeated injuries. If he dose not want to risk more injuries, that should be his right.

    • @brettharrington4333
      @brettharrington4333 3 месяца назад

      as being his cousin, he is a kiwi and does not call himself a auzzy never has so can't see why he is even in the conversation, but he has called the kiwis and is changing countrys

    • @Mac-jx8uj
      @Mac-jx8uj 3 месяца назад

      Bro , he's in the conversation because he has chosen to play from Qld ? It's simple ! If your not available for Australia your not eligible to play for Qld . The bro should have just said he was injured or having family issues but instead his so called management has gone out of there way to agitate everyone ? If your asking me and I'm a die hard Qld man he has also ruled himself out of origin next year . One of our best players and I love watching him electric ⚡

  • @davidtaliai996
    @davidtaliai996 3 месяца назад +34

    You don't get punished in an office if you get a promotion and turn it down. If he doesnt want to play any footy outside of the knights then he doesnt have to.

    • @benjaminmanimbi6746
      @benjaminmanimbi6746 3 месяца назад +1

      This is the most common sense comment I've read in a while.

    • @warrenturner397
      @warrenturner397 3 месяца назад +5

      It's in his CONTRACT!

    • @tomgrogan3293
      @tomgrogan3293 3 месяца назад +5

      In an office most people hold you to your contract, it’s in his contract

    • @davidtaliai996
      @davidtaliai996 3 месяца назад +2

      The koori knockout is on during the GF long weekend yet the NRL let the indigenous boys play in it. You think if an indigenous player who was on the cusp of getting selected for Aus at the end of the year gets injured playing in it would the NRL punish him? Probably not. FOH with that contract BS.

    • @tomgrogan3293
      @tomgrogan3293 3 месяца назад

      @@davidtaliai996yeah that’s because they’re injured 😂 the issue is kalyns not and only played 12 games this year

  • @sharonscott1776
    @sharonscott1776 3 месяца назад +35

    It should be up to the player so I agree with Kalyn we need him fully fit for next year.

    • @Bill6000-v4s
      @Bill6000-v4s 3 месяца назад +6

      He signed his contract that dictates his availability.
      If other players/clubs were selfish like yourself the international game dies.

    • @boerbru9721
      @boerbru9721 3 месяца назад +9

      The international game died ages ago

    • @graymcmic1419
      @graymcmic1419 3 месяца назад

      "We"? Are you in the team? Part of the management? No? Then STFu

    • @yessirrr5182
      @yessirrr5182 3 месяца назад

      ​@ZAHRN1 the game got worse when the bunkers started cheating, corrupted people always ruin things

    • @richardwhite2730
      @richardwhite2730 3 месяца назад +3

      It should be up to the player if they play rep footy.
      But if you knock back an Aussie jersey, you should not be eligible for future selection.
      But i think the suggestion of a suspension is over the top

  • @goodboydaz
    @goodboydaz 3 месяца назад +23

    Lmao Joey saying Union in Europe play 14 games is a laugh. France has 26 rounds, England has 18, then Ireland/Wales/Scotland are same. Then add finals AND Euro League. They play 40 odd and then add international games.

    • @teaspoons5942
      @teaspoons5942 3 месяца назад +10

      Yeah and they do about a tenth of the work and impact of rugby league players. Ponga could play 40 rugby games a year and be fresh as a daisy....

    • @davidtaliai996
      @davidtaliai996 3 месяца назад +4

      Did you watch the test rugby? You have to play 3 rugby games to feel the same fatigue a league game has.

    • @jnic2165
      @jnic2165 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I noticed that comment from Joey, The top French teams play about 40 games, players earn thier money. Also worth mentioning the Top 14 cap is 17m AUD compared to the NRL 12.5m. Yes Top 14 get paid more but not " squillions " as Joey said.

    • @robcousins231
      @robcousins231 3 месяца назад +1

      @@teaspoons5942 Yeah, right, a tenth of the workload 🤣

    • @goodboydaz
      @goodboydaz 3 месяца назад +2

      @@teaspoons5942 Ponga would get injured like always lmao. Held together by duck tape

  • @cleaningthepipes
    @cleaningthepipes 3 месяца назад +7

    If Kalyn has to bear the responsibility of being the main talking point of a club then he definitely doesn’t deserve sh*t for resting himself for them. Shot the lights out at the end of the season and proved his worth, now there’s people saying well what should he do for his country? Well what does the game want to do to compensate these superhuman expectations on its players? Lot of thankless work for the ‘love of the game’.

  • @tobiaskrebsanimation
    @tobiaskrebsanimation 3 месяца назад +7

    I find the Ponga situation funny... Love how its fine for Spencer Leniu and his boys to step down for Samoa ( i know its for a wedding) but not Ponga... Is repping your country really that important anymore... players can switch and change country rep whenever they want... Play for samoa/ Fiji and still be in origin... Also almost everyone has named Ponga as a third choice fullback... No one is gonna watch the pacific championships anyway... Also Jack wighton didn't get the hate for stepping down...

  • @Samoanhulk24
    @Samoanhulk24 3 месяца назад +31

    I think the thing with Kalyn is he honestly can’t see himself wearing a green and gold jumper. He would rather a kiwi jumper but the pull of origin when he was young was to strong and he chose Queensland therefore having to play for the kangaroos. He is a proud Nz Māori and I’m sure his old man would rather see him in a kiwi jersey too

    • @benoh8321
      @benoh8321 3 месяца назад +5

      He’s already represented Queensland and Australia, at schoolboys level and at the international nines (the last post season he was fit)

    • @jnic2165
      @jnic2165 3 месяца назад +2

      Ponga has talked about his desire to play for NZ ( either All Blacks or Kiwis ) if he played for the Kangaroos he'd never be able to play for NZ

    • @benoh8321
      @benoh8321 3 месяца назад +5

      @@jnic2165 He’s not eligible to ever play for the Kiwis already due to representing Australia at the international nines tournament in 2019

    • @Samoanhulk24
      @Samoanhulk24 3 месяца назад +2

      @@benoh8321school boy and nines its no where near on par with top level footy mate. It was the Queensland jersey that got him over the line. If he could play Queensland and choose between Australia and New Zealand like the Samoan and Tongan boys do, there is no doubt he’s choosing the black jumper

    • @benoh8321
      @benoh8321 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Samoanhulk24 The Nines was an official IRL tournament, it was even acknowledged in their international eligibility rules 💀 He could have played for the “black jumper” you reckon he wants so bad, but chose not to. Not to mention already knocking them back before he decided to commit to Australia/Origin

  • @boerbru9721
    @boerbru9721 3 месяца назад +18

    International game is a joke can’t blame the players , some of the fault is origin and whoever runs international rugby.

    • @fu8713
      @fu8713 3 месяца назад

      It is a joke both games international rugby is being absolutely obliterated by ridiculous over refereeing for all teams, the tmo calls are ridiculous
      And for league australia pretty much control all RL international and NRL
      Last RLWC were controlled by ALL AUSTRALIAN REFEREES 😂😂😂 Ashley Klein being worse controlled the test matches NZ vs AUST 😂😂😂 how dodgy is that lol cabbage

    • @percyfree9831
      @percyfree9831 3 месяца назад

      Brad,a charmed life

  • @seigtitties
    @seigtitties 3 месяца назад +3

    I think the most obvious thing here is injury history.... Concussions or otherwise, those are serious things for a players period! To take some games off as a precaution or focus on rehab or pure lack of desire to play you are well within your rights to make that decision in the best interests of your health

  • @Its_just_me_again
    @Its_just_me_again 3 месяца назад +7

    i love joey and love his passion, but no one on this planet would believe he wouldnt care if he wasnt playing for the knights. he's getting worked up because it is one of his own and he feels the need to defend. ponga is a great player and if he went about things differently and gave mal a call or went through the appropriate channels, things may have resulted differently.

  • @MLF-kq8ut
    @MLF-kq8ut 3 месяца назад +5

    A French Top 14 team can play up to 37 games a year including Top 14, Champions Cup and finals. That's what Toulouse played last year. But the French national team rests its top players for their July tests and only puts in a full strength side for the Six Nations so in that sense the administration protects players by allowing them to drop national honours and prioritise their clubs. Japanese rugby however is a nice 12 - 14 week season.
    Good luck to young Zach too. He'll be a barnstormer at 12.

    • @jnic2165
      @jnic2165 3 месяца назад +1

      I'm surprised they didn't mention Zach when they were talking about departing Chooks 😅

    • @MLF-kq8ut
      @MLF-kq8ut 3 месяца назад

      @@jnic2165 🤣 Pretty good news that he's played in the forwards too. Australia could do with a Kwagga Smith style utility.

  • @amritpalsingh3494
    @amritpalsingh3494 3 месяца назад +11

    Panthers record at rain day game is so bad. They’ve won only 3 games and lost 7 when it’s raining.
    They lost to wooden spoon tigers last year they almost lost to parra this year when they were behind by 14 points in last 4 mintues.
    If it rains Penrith can lose to sharks on Saturday

    • @The_pleZy_Podcast
      @The_pleZy_Podcast 3 месяца назад +4

      😂keep telling yourself that

    • @Aussieewonder
      @Aussieewonder 3 месяца назад

      ​@@The_pleZy_Podcast he ain't wrong

    • @TROYBALLER
      @TROYBALLER 3 месяца назад

      Your correct , I remember that west tigers game last year,the Panthers where woeful!
      And in other wet weather games, they have looked ordinary. I think they will win, but heavy rain 🌧 during games bring the Panthers back to the field to some degree

    • @darshin95
      @darshin95 3 месяца назад +1

      My dad always said cats don't play well in the wet!

  • @budh7436
    @budh7436 3 месяца назад +5

    Club comes first totally agree with Andrew its up to the player if he decides to not play rep games and put his health first

  • @hansoloburger2322
    @hansoloburger2322 3 месяца назад +4

    The craziest thing about this ponga situation is ponga is going to get punished more severely than addo-Carr and latrell combined

    • @44shots6worlds
      @44shots6worlds 3 месяца назад

      Wanna have a guess why mate

    • @hansoloburger2322
      @hansoloburger2322 3 месяца назад

      @@BlackQueen-z5b definitely not grow up latrell an carr broke criminal laws. Give your mum her phone back you’re done for the week

    • @hansoloburger2322
      @hansoloburger2322 3 месяца назад

      @@BlackQueen-z5b my replies odd?you said this ponga issue is a bigger deal than breaking the law

    • @hansoloburger2322
      @hansoloburger2322 3 месяца назад

      @@BlackQueen-z5b this is how delusional you are you think breaking a contract an others could follow is worse that driving on drugs where you could possibly kill yourself or other is worse absolutely ridiculous don’t reply this is going nowhere

  • @charlessiale3402
    @charlessiale3402 3 месяца назад +1

    Always noticed and appreciate how these guys can agree to disagree and still have a laugh. Agree with Joey tho.

  • @aarronrobinson5543
    @aarronrobinson5543 3 месяца назад +3

    If ya use half the aussie players from the last years final game of shame vs NZ this year and being 1st played in Christchurch this year well would you wanna be on that team ? Then look over the build of this years NZ team its pretty solid for there player's during this seasons NRL . P.S any chance during a show please compare the current 2 teams. Looking forward to see it live. Really enjoy ya show lads cheers

    • @44shots6worlds
      @44shots6worlds 3 месяца назад

      Players wanna be on that team no matter what repping your country is every kids dream of you do sports

  • @peterhall6656
    @peterhall6656 3 месяца назад +1

    The general rule in employment law is that courts do not supervise employers' decisions to force employees to work. The practical reality is that if an employee does not want to work, to supervise the alleged non-performance at a judicial level is simply impractical. Courts just don't do it. So what happens is either termination, or some form of contractual penalty like suspension, or some form of monetary adjustment. Before Kalyn opened his mouth this should have been legalled to within an inch of its life. If you join the army etc it is not an employment relationship (it is "service" ) and you cannot say "I do not want to be shot at".

    • @warrenturner397
      @warrenturner397 3 месяца назад

      That has been the case for the 53 years I've been an Industrial Relations Consultant/Advocate. One of the main problems I think is that players like contracts when it suits them and then try to argue against something they don't like. They don't seem to understand that they are EMPLOYEES. It's also about time clubs start enforcing contracts (never happen though).

    • @DarkMagician-105
      @DarkMagician-105 3 месяца назад

      Just call in sick, case closed 😂

  • @Troydeboi
    @Troydeboi 3 месяца назад

    10:44 Yeah love Johns passion on this issue of Ponga. If he doesn’t want it he doesn’t want to.
    The season is ridiculously too long. The NRL has got the season completely wrong all in an attempt to profit a touch more.

  • @FreddyFlack
    @FreddyFlack 3 месяца назад +7

    This whole ponga thing is no different to the guys who choose to play for island nations over Australia/New Zealand. If origin wasn't a thing, would kalyn have chosen NZ due to having Maori parents?

    • @kainoizking
      @kainoizking 3 месяца назад +1

      Doubt it. Making the Kangaroos in league is like making the All Blacks in union. It’s a status symbol almost as much as it is an achievement. Players want to be capped for the most prestigious teams that they’re available for, and being capped for Aus is probably the most prestigious thing in League other than a Dally M.

    • @winningtakescareofeverythi8438
      @winningtakescareofeverythi8438 3 месяца назад +3

      @@kainoizking Making the ABs is far more prestigious

    • @kainoizking
      @kainoizking 3 месяца назад

      @@winningtakescareofeverythi8438yeah. The Kangaroos are leagues equivalent though I mean.

    • @paulmitchell6485
      @paulmitchell6485 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@kainoizkingno it's not the same. Every single kiwi boy grew up wanting to play for the All Blacks. A handful of Aussie boys only would grow up with the dream of playing for the Kangaroos

    • @kainoizking
      @kainoizking 3 месяца назад

      @@paulmitchell6485 I mean, speaking from a kiwi perspective it is true that all kiwi boys grow up wanting to be an AB. I just assumed any Aussie lad who played league would have aspirations of making the Kangaroos. They’re the most successful and prestigious international team so idk, I thought that would be the go lol didn’t grow up in Aus though so I’ll have to take your word for it.

  • @danch1691
    @danch1691 3 месяца назад +4

    If Ponga doesn't want to play for Kangaroos, then make him ineligible for state of origin too. Whole original point of state of origin was a trial for the national Australian team ie the Kangaroos

  • @DrayDrayn
    @DrayDrayn 3 месяца назад +1

    26 rounds for a demanding sport like rugby league in this day of age of high performing athletes is a lot of load on the body. I think the NRL shouldn't ask much if a player says he's exhausted come the end of the season.

  • @Selladora777
    @Selladora777 3 месяца назад

    Why is no one talking about the situation with Jack Wighton a couple years back? He “retired” from the NSW jersey, not under medical grounds or anything, no one said anything about it then…why is the Australian jersey different?

  • @SlaintheMhath
    @SlaintheMhath 3 месяца назад

    Sharks forced to play away last week, Panthers forced to play away this week and the Panthers rebuilt stadium is only 25k so they will probably be forced to play away in the future.
    Home games are a serious advantage, especially in a knock out final.

  • @TheJuanvegas
    @TheJuanvegas 3 месяца назад

    Joey using Jamie Lyon is a bad example. He quit the NRL in his prime, never mind rep footy, and went to St Helens for 2 years. He didnt care if he didnt get picked for origin again, hated the spotlight

  • @philliprobinson2902
    @philliprobinson2902 3 месяца назад

    Good work man

  • @macetaylor69
    @macetaylor69 3 месяца назад

    What about all the panthers players over the last 4 years how many games have some of them played? 4 grand finals so far, World Cup, pacific cup, state of origin?

  • @jude305
    @jude305 3 месяца назад +1

    Cheers Freddy💀⚡️

  • @Onda-v1t
    @Onda-v1t 3 месяца назад

    Ponga may not want to be sitting on the bench while the Roos figure out whether they want Teddy or Dyl as the sweeper.

  • @bunyipz2040
    @bunyipz2040 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm sure that bloke blowing the sax was in "the lost boys"

  • @geomet1311
    @geomet1311 3 месяца назад +76

    'Oh of course Joey is going to defend Ponga, it's a Newcastle thing'. (Everyones thoughts )

    • @l1999-x1k
      @l1999-x1k 3 месяца назад +22

      I firmly disagree with you here, people complaining about players getting injured yet it's due to the evolving intensity of the game. I too defend Ponga as prioritisation of player health is way more drastic to the continuity of the evolving game, rather opting out to playing in tour matches

    • @jamespeacock8665
      @jamespeacock8665 3 месяца назад

      Well Newcastle supporters liked the statement for sure.

    • @XaydenHopkins-td7pd
      @XaydenHopkins-td7pd 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah I did like it ponga has won a comp with Queensland and Australia he wants to win one for his club what is the harm in that

    • @geoffreyrose1620
      @geoffreyrose1620 3 месяца назад +2

      Ponga had injuries though out the year, and I'm a Bulldog

    • @joshloreto2676
      @joshloreto2676 3 месяца назад +3

      I disagree this isn't the draft.

  • @JackH2254
    @JackH2254 3 месяца назад

    If anything, it should be a fine or a salary deduction rather than a ban.

  • @Kiwiinoz
    @Kiwiinoz 3 месяца назад +3

    Why would you penalise a player who doesn't at this stage wish to play for the roo's why would you even wanta player whom doesn't wish to play their are a stackload of quality fullbacks who can play and want to so easy pick them. A penalty in games money or anything would just be ridiculous and make others think hmmm maybe that game does not have players interest at heart. Just itself

    • @jest3167
      @jest3167 3 месяца назад +2

      If you owned a chain of 17 restaurants and you're hosting an end of year event and you have to select a crew to cater for it and one of your chef's who's already missed half the year off work says nah i don't want to come you'd sack him

    • @diekurtdie
      @diekurtdie 3 месяца назад

      @@jest3167 nah, you got it all wrong mate. he missed half the season for newcastle and he wants to rectify that by not playing rep football so he can be fit for next season for the club who pays him millions of dollars. He doesn't want to play for australia for 1 tournament for which he probably gets paid $20k per game. Your point would only apply if he had played half the year for australia

    • @jest3167
      @jest3167 3 месяца назад

      @@diekurtdie Who pays the Knights ? The Knights are simply one of the 17 restaurants in case you couldn’t wrap your head around that 🤣

  • @julianchambers2580
    @julianchambers2580 3 месяца назад

    Not burning yourself out before the next season is loyalty to the game…. Less nrl more rep footy would make it more rewarding to represent your country

  • @Br0wnCh3
    @Br0wnCh3 3 месяца назад +1

    If it’s in the contract, you do it. If not in contract, do what ever u want

  • @Shayne-H
    @Shayne-H 3 месяца назад

    Lets not forget Ponga nearly retired earlier in the year because of concussion! What happens if he is forced to play, then cops a major wack in the head and is forced out for months or potentially retirement due to another concussion... there's plenty of other fullbacks that can fill the spot or the 14 if that's where he was going to be selected, they are making so much more out of this then they need to!

  • @kainoizking
    @kainoizking 3 месяца назад +3

    I don’t blame Ponga. I agree with Freddy. It’s the games fault. For decades the game has prioritised the domestic product over anything else. Stunting the growth of the international game to the point now where no country’s are even interested in hosting world cups and players are willingly making themselves unavailable for international selection. The NRL sacrificed the international game in return for a good domestic product and now League will never be the global sport that it should be.

  • @katejean7899
    @katejean7899 3 месяца назад +1

    FRUCHE
    FLEX
    FIERCE
    Fab xx

  • @FieldPlug
    @FieldPlug 3 месяца назад

    I reckon it makes sense to be harsh. Because if Ponga was to sit out of it then it’s setting a precedent and soon heaps of players will do it. I wouldn’t pick him period anymore tbh, clearly doesn’t wanna rep Australia

  • @canwelook
    @canwelook 3 месяца назад

    You don't have to make players "want" to play origin or top tier tests. Rule: If judged fit to play, you play or you sit out your next NRL game. Let players choose whatever fits.
    Please uncouple state of origin qualification rules from national team qualification rules - letting Ponga and others play for NZ and SOO.

    • @peterpiper7951
      @peterpiper7951 3 месяца назад

      They should only let Aussie eligible players play Origin then there will be none of this mess.

  • @markwhelan9887
    @markwhelan9887 3 месяца назад

    I'm not sure that they can enforce someone to play rep football, if he knows his body and thinks its to much physicaly and he thinks he needs a certain amount of rest in order to be fresh and ready for the next season.

  • @leannecaton1673
    @leannecaton1673 3 месяца назад

    Love these guys.

  • @teaspoons5942
    @teaspoons5942 3 месяца назад

    Pretty simply the game needs to treat players with more respect and players need to sacrifice some money for better conditions. 22 nrl games a year should be max with 3 origins and 3 tests max. Longer periods between games for more rest. Higher quality games, performance and that leaves more demand. Start the season in April and finish in September like it used to be.

  • @asp9214
    @asp9214 3 месяца назад

    Good to see the goats show some emotion about the game 🤌

    • @wayne9080
      @wayne9080 3 месяца назад

      Who's the goat on that panel???

  • @Feeds_
    @Feeds_ 3 месяца назад

    Because channel 9 wants to sell rugby league to the pacific nations should have nothing to do with Kalyn ponga. Ponga has played 63% of possible games for the knights over the last 3 seasons, the workload is already taking its toll, and now they’re considering punishing a player, already struggling with workload for not being an nrl salesman? That’s ridiculous.

  • @andrewturk6562
    @andrewturk6562 3 месяца назад +1

    He is no lose Teddy is the fullback

  • @12from121
    @12from121 3 месяца назад +1

    good on him international league doesn't mean that much.

  • @youchwb6005
    @youchwb6005 3 месяца назад +1

    Yea, like Ponga has a chance of being picked ahead of Edwards.🤣🤣🤣

  • @dripryan58
    @dripryan58 3 месяца назад

    Although I think they are crying over nothing , Isn't there a duty of care from the club to inform Ponga of the situation? Why did they release a statement when surely they knew the contractual obligations with Rep Footy , It seems they have thrown Ponga under the bus as well.

  • @C9H0S
    @C9H0S 3 месяца назад +1

    And our coach was a Queenslander. 🤭🏉🏆🤣 "I saw it on the classic"

  • @michaelferguson387
    @michaelferguson387 3 месяца назад +2

    Does Ponga and his manager not have access to his own contract!!!!

    • @warrenturner397
      @warrenturner397 3 месяца назад +1

      Only when it suits them apparently

  • @coolcraig112
    @coolcraig112 3 месяца назад

    "You can't make anyone who works for you do what they don't want to do" - you ever had a 9 to 5 Joey? You ever heard of a boss telling people what do to? Most of us have jobs where we have to do things that we don't want to. He has no idea of the real world.

  • @taiyonatiare7918
    @taiyonatiare7918 3 месяца назад

    This is so stupid. The journos are having a sook saying a ban or suspension when Mal has literally come out and said he’s fine with the decision. Do they want ppl who don’t want to play on their squad?

  • @garyrichards5570
    @garyrichards5570 3 месяца назад

    LOL, Newcastle will be lucky to make the 8 next year anyway. Plenty of other fullbacks that can fill the postion for Australia.

  • @markymark2509
    @markymark2509 3 месяца назад

    I think knights are worried he might cop a bump and have the lights go out again. He's so vulnerable to that now that he has been knocked out multiple times. Even the experts are saying a move to 5/8 defending in the line would likely end his career.. He's on huge money so Knights are just trying to protect their investment. Fair enough...
    Talk of off season prep to win a comp is a bit silly. Knights do not currently have top 4 capable halves or a genuinely dominant, creative hooker...
    That's why they're watching the best spines in the NRL play deep into the finals on TV...
    They hold their own in the forwards but so do many other teams...
    Look at the spines for Storm, Penrith, Roosters (before Sam did an ACL), even the Sharks... All these clubs have halves, fullbacks and hookers that would rate from 8 to 10 as spine players...
    Poor old Knights send the Armaguard truck to Ponga each week and spend what's left over on other clubs discarded "utility" players who rate 6 to 8 max when they play in the halves...
    No, I don't think it's about prepping for 2025 premiership glory at all... They just want him to avoid unnecessary risk... So would I... Just Sayin,...

  • @CJH94
    @CJH94 3 месяца назад

    Got too used to it being a guaranteed win for Australia because the best international players all played for the kangaroos and they were playing against basically reserve grade players it was all fun and games then. Now the teams have evened out slightly with players choosing to play for the kiwis and their heritage nation instead no one wants to play. That is possibly the most aussy thing ever.

  • @melecklabs5753
    @melecklabs5753 3 месяца назад

    Look, you can’t force someone to play which is one thing however the consequences of that means that player will have less respect earned because he doesn’t have the same level of pride in his sport or his country.

  • @Simon-says1768
    @Simon-says1768 3 месяца назад

    Joey not being biased 😂😂😂😂. What is so special about KP? What if every player chose to not play for Oz because of loyalty to their club, then there is no more test footy.

  • @brokenjumpers5219
    @brokenjumpers5219 3 месяца назад

    Joey is 1000% right

  • @noworries3641
    @noworries3641 3 месяца назад

    How about this, go through the process of getting an exemption rather than deciding to just set your own rules.
    Poor management and a bad look.

  • @Dmillseye
    @Dmillseye 3 месяца назад

    Its the NRL's fault for making Origin the pinnacle. Kiwis choosing Origin for the money, look at Howarth he played for Kiwi A's last year and now pledge allegiance to Australia because he wants to play for QLD

  • @benoh8321
    @benoh8321 3 месяца назад +1

    So Kalyn prioritises the nrl…and the nrl want to punish him for it? Another crooked take from Valandiddly 😂😂😂

  • @johno9761
    @johno9761 3 месяца назад

    Ponga clearly has more of a affinity towards NZ cos if he was ALL IN on Australia he would’ve played for them by now. He’s been around for a while now and he’s never played for the Kangaroos, yet his family and himself during that time have talked about how it would be a “dream” to play for the All Blacks. He’s clearly saying he feels more Kiwi than Aussie.

    • @44shots6worlds
      @44shots6worlds 3 месяца назад

      You do realise in those times he could've there was better FBS right? You're acting like he had the chance every season he's barely had the chance

  • @andrewturner5449
    @andrewturner5449 3 месяца назад

    French top flight union players play 30 games a year and they would never turn down a chance to play for France,when they were fit.

  • @xpsylentzer_8039
    @xpsylentzer_8039 3 месяца назад

    if Ponga doesn’t want to play, just play and throw the game 😂

  • @MidCrap69
    @MidCrap69 3 месяца назад

    All these old school pundits saying “all I wanted to do as a kid was play for Australia” is not the same for this generation. Every kid of this generation wants to play for their favourite footy team and win a premiership, and fair enough!

    • @leannecaton1673
      @leannecaton1673 3 месяца назад

      Don't be disrespectful. If it wasn't for these "pundits", the game wouldn't be what it is today.

    • @MidCrap69
      @MidCrap69 3 месяца назад

      @@leannecaton1673 haha oh Leanne, pundit literally means ‘expert in a chosen field or subject’. Stop looking for an argument when you don’t even know what you’re taking about

    • @leannecaton1673
      @leannecaton1673 3 месяца назад

      @MidCrap69 trust me, I'm not looking for an argument - why is it not the same for this generation?

  • @gungi4764
    @gungi4764 3 месяца назад

    Nice vid

  • @abdul_grizzley
    @abdul_grizzley 3 месяца назад

    Joeys right if he doesn’t wanna play pick someone else. It’s up to the coach and player

  • @DarkMagician-105
    @DarkMagician-105 3 месяца назад

    Why would Ponga want to play for a team that got pumped 30 - 0?

  • @lynettemahoney1710
    @lynettemahoney1710 3 месяца назад

    The only reason they are playing in the pacific is MONEY.Ponga is a full back,would he have been picked as a full back ahead of Edward’s I don’t think so.

  • @JaydeJackson
    @JaydeJackson 3 месяца назад

    The sooner they get rid of this Thompson guy, the sooner this podcast goes back to its former glory.

  • @davidpetrina4438
    @davidpetrina4438 3 месяца назад

    Of course you can't make him play but what you can do is refuse to select him in the future

  • @jayannan9897
    @jayannan9897 3 месяца назад

    Match fitness is better than practice fitness. It's counterproductive to lose your edge from playing compared to pre-season training. He's only worried about injury and money which is fair enough however he could get smashed in the first season game at Newcastle for the same result....😉
    Also if all footy players take 2 months off its still equal anyway because it doesn't matter when they holiday, it's a matter of being game fit. For me there's no substitute for playing...how many teams have lost a grand final after one week off??

  • @montyjewfishing1353
    @montyjewfishing1353 3 месяца назад

    Wats big fuss Edward’s Tedesco be first pick fullback

  • @jesselidster4901
    @jesselidster4901 3 месяца назад

    Tame Impala should open for the new Perth teams first game. Also would be good for grand finals.

  • @danielmackenzie8790
    @danielmackenzie8790 3 месяца назад

    Ponga could come out as a serial killer and Joey would still think the sun shines out his ass

  • @sachad964
    @sachad964 3 месяца назад +3

    to not want to play for your country, unless injured is as disgracefull as Ben simmons not wanting to play for Australia in Basketball. he should not be allowed to play any rep footy next year and should never be allowed to play for Australia no matter how many fullbacks are injured

    • @benoh8321
      @benoh8321 3 месяца назад

      He doesn’t owe Mal/the Kangaroos anything, especially if he’s feeling underdone and feels he would do a disservice if he was selected

    • @useruseruseruseruser790
      @useruseruseruseruser790 3 месяца назад +1

      @@benoh8321These players kind of do owe something to the game. They are extremely well paid and get of other benefits and in those circumstances it isn’t all about them. There are obligations.

    • @benoh8321
      @benoh8321 3 месяца назад +1

      @@useruseruseruseruser790 Not to represent your country 💀 that’s why it’s called “selections” and not “inductions”…it’s voluntary

    • @useruseruseruseruser790
      @useruseruseruseruser790 3 месяца назад

      @@benoh8321 You don’t understand what I said. There are certain obligations in situations when you are being paid so much more than the average person.

    • @benoh8321
      @benoh8321 3 месяца назад +1

      @@useruseruseruseruser790 you don’t understand what a “selection” is

  • @davidcork1317
    @davidcork1317 3 месяца назад

    I agree with Joey they want it both ways. Bye the way Ponga has had too many head knock injuries , almost ended him, let him have time off considering all that is now known about CTE.

  • @SKINNY_HUMAN
    @SKINNY_HUMAN 3 месяца назад

    I 100% back ponga. And im a doggies fan. Joey is not bias. Joey is just speaking facts

  • @AliKaks
    @AliKaks 3 месяца назад

    If Ponga plays for the Kangaroos and gets knocked out/injured, he should sue the ARL as they seem dissatisfied with his choice to not play for the Kangaroos.

  • @nsatan461
    @nsatan461 3 месяца назад +1

    So he can tear his ACL and goodbye Knights season........For what. Salary cap doesn't work and make teams even its Melb v Penrith.......... How many years in the past decade is Melbourne, Roosters or Penrith in the GF.

  • @TrevorManetoa-w5g
    @TrevorManetoa-w5g 3 месяца назад

    I agree with Joey. Someone in the club leaked it before he can go through the proper channels.

  • @lesm350
    @lesm350 3 месяца назад

    What doesn't Joey understand about contractual obligations 😂 , please someone explain to him what he has apparently forgotten.
    Contractual law 101 , get Ponga's ass on the field or fine his ass .

  • @adamthompson5368
    @adamthompson5368 3 месяца назад

    didn't Jamie Lyon get away with it?

  • @gcdragon2558
    @gcdragon2558 3 месяца назад

    It's all about money. If the clubs are paying the big dollars, then they should have the final say. As a dragons fan, I'm sick of seeing Hunt play like a champion for qld and rubbish for the team who's paying him.

  • @yessirrr5182
    @yessirrr5182 3 месяца назад +1

    I agree with johns

  • @goodboydaz
    @goodboydaz 3 месяца назад +2

    Joey Manu wouldnt get close to an All Black jersey despite the form ABs are in.

  • @Hyphen_1781
    @Hyphen_1781 3 месяца назад

    Another thing Ponga has a concussion history why risk it coz if he gets knocked out all these idiots like Blocka will blame Mal for picking him.

  • @five1media
    @five1media 3 месяца назад

    kaolin ponga has not played a full season the last couple of years due to injury. he should take some time off to let his body heal

  • @leeroy896
    @leeroy896 3 месяца назад

    Love awe Andrew johns is right about this U should no be made to play if U don't want to. And he should not be punished he's done a whole season and he getting a bit older now and wants to rest up and try win a season for Newcastle.

  • @peterpiper7951
    @peterpiper7951 3 месяца назад

    The ARL created this situation by allowing players who wish to represent other countries play origin. Ponga chose origin knowing the rules wouldn't allow him to play for Kiwis, and now he is regretting the situation it has created. Origin needs to go back to being only for Aussie players. Solves all these problems.
    Nothing against Kaylyn and I understand, but he's putting himself above the rules of the game.

  • @lynettemahoney1710
    @lynettemahoney1710 3 месяца назад

    Who wants singing at a grand final?Put some junior footy game on give the kids encouragement to want to play their in a final when they get older.

  • @lukedpk4557
    @lukedpk4557 3 месяца назад

    I wish more players were like ponga I watch for club football not internationals

  • @sliccric2266
    @sliccric2266 3 месяца назад

    "let him go to rugby union then" Joey reckons.. can guarantee he wouldn't turn down an All Blacks jersey 🤷

  • @anthonymcintosh4243
    @anthonymcintosh4243 3 месяца назад

    There are better fullbacks to choose from.

  • @manmountain3205
    @manmountain3205 3 месяца назад

    Newcastle thing😂😂and that 42 point belting they did that without nathan

  • @deborahvenet-sanos8584
    @deborahvenet-sanos8584 3 месяца назад

    Im with Ponga, hes had bad head knocks hes played for Australia ,he don't need to take years off his career with this rep, Contract states hes totally within hes rights .

  • @badabing8152
    @badabing8152 3 месяца назад

    Forcing him to play would be hilarious.
    After 80 minutes the stats read:
    Ponga: 18 knock ons, 13 forward passes, 3 runs for 2 metres (Latrell numbers)
    Please force him to play NRL. Would be absolutely hilarious watching him mail it in out of spite. Forcing someone to play lmfao what a joke. Force Walsh the cat to play instead of painting his nails pink and causing a ruckus overseas. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @darkstars-torpedoes-of-truth
    @darkstars-torpedoes-of-truth 3 месяца назад

    Wrong about the Broncos as long as Walters is coaching.