There has been a push for a Group of 5 Championship & a separate Power 4 Championship. Even a model where the G5 Champion get's one of the spots in the 12 team playoffs. It would actually be an awesome model, play the G5 Championships first & the G5 Champion get's the current guaranteed G5 slot in the 12 team playoff.
The divisions should be based on size of the state aka recruiting base, like it is high school. Massive population city centers don’t play against tiny little rural schools. But for some reason in college football they do.
I like your idea. It's like a baseball minor league where AA teams can promote to AAA and the same AA teams can relegate to A. Maybe now they can pay all players an equal base salary, depending on what level they play in. They can get more money separate from the school, by making their own side deals with sponsors The level 4-6 players will probably still have to pay to attend university and play, and/or receive a scholarship.
Realistically, I think there's a few problems with this, both in the setup, and in the theory of it. 1. Yes, you do give more meaing to some games, but you also strip away a lot of the tradition and rivalries that college football fans buy in to. If Auburn has a bad season and gets relegated out, the Iron Bowl is over. If Michigan collapses, The Game is gone. I don't know if college football can truly succeed long term in a true NFL-lite model. 2. Tier 1 is too big. Indiana and Ohio State are not capable of being the same caliber of programs. You'd need to cut it down to probably 16 to have a good balance, otherwise you'd rarely ever see the top teams being threatened, because there'd be too much of a cushion with lesser teams cycling in and out. 3. Not a Soccer fan, but idk how well you can expect to see this model work at the current level. It's pretty common to see teams peak and then fall shortly after as most of their players leave. Would it really be that exciting to see TCU make a miraculous run and break into the Top division, only for them to get their doors blown off and be immediately relegated the following year? 4. What happens with scholarships? If you're a DII team and then all of a sudden you get relegated to DIII, do you lose all of your scholarships? If you want to do employment type stuff, most schools outside of the G5 aren't going to be able to employ a team, especially not if you slash their income. 5. I think you can safely say that as a whole, this idea has a 0% chance of happening. Larger schools are moving towards an employment model and there's too much money wrapped up with donors. You could maybe see this work at the lower levels of the sport if teams move to more of a club model, but with real money invovled, there's basically no shot.
Thank you for the thoughtful response! 1. Really good point 2. Fair. I think 16-24 is the sweet spot 3. Is it any different than TCU going 5-7 this year and not being in the national conversation? 4. Really good point 5. Wouldn't there be a better chance of this happening with the big money schools than the lower levels?
These are the kinds of takes I love to hear. You have a PhD in college football. Teach us, professor. Your argument is well thought out, like everything you post.
The schools really against this are the bottom feeders of the power conferences. Rutgers, Vandy ,etc. I don't think relegation will happen soon, what I do think will happen is that the bottom feeders of the major conferences will soon start to get kicked out for not holding their own. That way there will be less teams to divide the spoils with. Let's be honest it's the teams at the top that are running these conferences, namely Alabama and Georgia in the Southeastern Conference and Ohio State and Michigan and Penn State in the Big ten. There may be another level right below them but then you've got the bottom feeders. It won't take long for the Elite teams to realize they can make more money by kicking out the bottom teams. Probably won't happen anytime soon, But when the TV deals start to go down instead of up, it may be the next option for them
It's kind of going in that direction. Now would be the time to do it because everything in CFB is changing and a bit chaotic with everyone learning how to use NIL.
The Nebraska Football clickbait was a smart move for more views but irrelevant
What would have been more relevant?
@@maxbrowne4 I'm not too sure, I'm no expert. I'm not one to speculate, I'm just a CFB/Husker fan.
There has been a push for a Group of 5 Championship & a separate Power 4 Championship. Even a model where the G5 Champion get's one of the spots in the 12 team playoffs. It would actually be an awesome model, play the G5 Championships first & the G5 Champion get's the current guaranteed G5 slot in the 12 team playoff.
I like that. The Power 4 and Group of 5 being different entities is where we're trending
I want my Boise State team to beat Alabama for the national championship.
Promotion relegation cookie with brings baseball back in this country
Free, trade and competition. It will never happen, but this actually sounds perfect for America
Right? At least fun to dream about!
You make a great case for this. I have no problem with it.
Thanks!
The divisions should be based on size of the state aka recruiting base, like it is high school. Massive population city centers don’t play against tiny little rural schools. But for some reason in college football they do.
That's interesting!
This is a terrible idea in CFB and thank god it never happens
Why is it terrible?
I like your idea. It's like a baseball minor league where AA teams can promote to AAA and the same AA teams can relegate to A.
Maybe now they can pay all players an equal base salary, depending on what level they play in. They can get more money separate from the school, by making their own side deals with sponsors
The level 4-6 players will probably still have to pay to attend university and play, and/or receive a scholarship.
this would be dope
You would have to definitely change the transfer portal to do this
Realistically, I think there's a few problems with this, both in the setup, and in the theory of it.
1. Yes, you do give more meaing to some games, but you also strip away a lot of the tradition and rivalries that college football fans buy in to. If Auburn has a bad season and gets relegated out, the Iron Bowl is over. If Michigan collapses, The Game is gone. I don't know if college football can truly succeed long term in a true NFL-lite model.
2. Tier 1 is too big. Indiana and Ohio State are not capable of being the same caliber of programs. You'd need to cut it down to probably 16 to have a good balance, otherwise you'd rarely ever see the top teams being threatened, because there'd be too much of a cushion with lesser teams cycling in and out.
3. Not a Soccer fan, but idk how well you can expect to see this model work at the current level. It's pretty common to see teams peak and then fall shortly after as most of their players leave. Would it really be that exciting to see TCU make a miraculous run and break into the Top division, only for them to get their doors blown off and be immediately relegated the following year?
4. What happens with scholarships? If you're a DII team and then all of a sudden you get relegated to DIII, do you lose all of your scholarships? If you want to do employment type stuff, most schools outside of the G5 aren't going to be able to employ a team, especially not if you slash their income.
5. I think you can safely say that as a whole, this idea has a 0% chance of happening. Larger schools are moving towards an employment model and there's too much money wrapped up with donors. You could maybe see this work at the lower levels of the sport if teams move to more of a club model, but with real money invovled, there's basically no shot.
Thank you for the thoughtful response!
1. Really good point
2. Fair. I think 16-24 is the sweet spot
3. Is it any different than TCU going 5-7 this year and not being in the national conversation?
4. Really good point
5. Wouldn't there be a better chance of this happening with the big money schools than the lower levels?
These are the kinds of takes I love to hear. You have a PhD in college football. Teach us, professor. Your argument is well thought out, like everything you post.
Appreciate the support!
The schools really against this are the bottom feeders of the power conferences. Rutgers, Vandy ,etc. I don't think relegation will happen soon, what I do think will happen is that the bottom feeders of the major conferences will soon start to get kicked out for not holding their own. That way there will be less teams to divide the spoils with. Let's be honest it's the teams at the top that are running these conferences, namely Alabama and Georgia in the Southeastern Conference and Ohio State and Michigan and Penn State in the Big ten. There may be another level right below them but then you've got the bottom feeders. It won't take long for the Elite teams to realize they can make more money by kicking out the bottom teams. Probably won't happen anytime soon, But when the TV deals start to go down instead of up, it may be the next option for them
It's kind of going in that direction. Now would be the time to do it because everything in CFB is changing and a bit chaotic with everyone learning how to use NIL.
I appreciate the thoughtful response. Only the beginning of the elite football programs teaming up together
Dumbest idea of all time.