Mark Lanegan Narrates: Kurt Cobain’s Near Fatal OD, And Nearly Finding Him Dead in April 1994
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2023
- Mark Lanegan narrates the time he was forced to watch Kurt Cobain overdose, and nearly finding him in the greenhouse the week he died..
Story From: Sing Backwards And Weep: A Memoir
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I struggled with heroin/opiate addiction for 12 years, until I got clean 5 years ago. I’ve lost over 25 friends over the years due to overdose, and I had really messed up codependent drug relationships with several of them. Some of them I helped save from overdoses, and some of them did the same for me. I still think about them, when I’m lying in bed at night, and my mind constantly goes over what I could have done to save them. Bless Mark Lanegan. These stories give me so much clarity and so much serenity. Some people who are in recovery can’t listen to “war stories” like these, but they’re therapeutic for me.
Survivors guilt is a real bitch,I live with it everyday.Especially when you were voted least likely to survive and the voters are dying around you.
Was getting high with my childhood best friend on a Friday night, Saturday afternoon I drove by his house on my way to a roofing job and saw an ambulance and a police cruiser in his driveway.... I have had survivors guilt ever since
This is one of the greatest quotes in our life and you wrote it
My best friend of 25 years killed himself. the last 2 years of his life I avoided him because of his alcoholism and the constant conflict that was around him. Im gonna have to live with that for the rest of my life.
Well said
@@kongvinter33I feel your brain. Same situation for me and my best friend. Only difference is instead of alcohol it was Dope. I had just recently had my daughter and thought my friend would get better but he never did
I admire his honesty. He was an enabler, and admits it.
So spooky hearing him say “until the day I died” as if he where speaking from the grave
He is
Enabling is a hell of a drug.
Dumb comment, a junkie can’t save another junkie with the same disease.
I’ve been there, I missed calls from someone the day they took their life. Been the one that got their friend drugs that later died from drugs. The only way to heal that pain is to heal yourself and live for them.
I’ve been there too but man it’s not your fault…if someone wasn’t ready to get clean and didn’t want it themselves there’s nothing anybody else can do to make an addict stop using…the only way an will stop is when they are ready and want it for themselves…I get it…it took me forever to get clean from H and Cocaine I tried getting clean a million times…and I’ve been in this situation too with many friends who died I’ve felt the guilt but it’s not our fault…an addict is going to use until they are ready you couldn’t of saved them
Billions would not have died if we didint ban grow and sell of opium 150 years ago
Or miss weddings or funerals because I’d be sick if I went, makes me hate myself sometimes
@@deborahchesser7375both. Hard to live with.
That's only way to deal drugs that are easy to od on. U have to do business not personal hurting the user
Mark hated himself. Nobody should hate themselves the way he did. So harsh. I wish he had learned more self compassion.
Pretty sure he had a terrible childhood. Or atleast I recall hearing this. When a child isn’t loved it fucks them up for life. It’s easy to say “well just be happy”. When you are made to feel worthless and unworthy of love, that impacts your view of self if you will.. Just the way it is.
He was such a good man in the grand scheme of things. I only wish he knew how much he was loved.
As we all do
Bullshit…he was self reflective and knew what he was…an asshole…just like you, me, Kurt, and Mark…I hope you find (Jesus) Yahshua as he is the only of this dark realm…Start by talking to him, that’s the way any relationship begins❤
@@markgrande33 no thanks. All the best!
Mark was such a talented singer and writer. One can sense so much guilt inside of him. Kurt had severe addiction issues, complex trauma and depression. It was hard for him to deal with this world. As an addict and someone who experienced war as a young person I feel connected to him. I think he tried his best but didn't get the right help as a younger person.
The part where talks about the guilt he feels is heartbreaking
There's no heroes in any of these old rock and roll stories. Just good people who got into the wrong shit and made terrible decisions that led them down a road of misery and regret.
Thirty years today. Wish you were still here. RIP, Kurt.
It's so crazy to think about this.
It's painful to listen to this guy. Brutal and real. This is where the glamour of the drugs lead.
Nobody glamourised heroin.
@@Junkhead91 boy that's some straight up bullshit
@@BubbaZen10 name me one person that ever tried to glamourise their heroin use? Absolute fuckweasel
@@Junkhead91 Lou Reed sort of did
@@atomeyes99 all those fkrs did that because some musician made it seem cool. Like that where the magic came from.
When everyone knows it all came from hallucinogenics and uppers! You ain't gonna make sht when you're napping.
I wish we had more people closer to the situation like friends of Kurt talk about March - April of 94 instead the Tom Grants of the world. It’s still sad but you this is honesty and sincerity and not someone trying to make money off of Kurt even in death
Are you serious? Tom Grant is a truth-seeker, not a profit spinner. He’s bankrupted himself trying to get to the bottom of this case. The proceeds of Soaked in Bleach went into his efforts to reopen the investigation.
And Tom Grant WAS close to the situation. He was there in those crucial moments of the search for Kurt. He saw how those around Kurt were behaving. You’re forgetting that Rosemary Carroll (Nirvana’s manager) and Gary Cobain (Kurt’s uncle) and Courtney’s father and Kurt’s former nanny (I forget her name but she was interviewed in the Kurt & Courtney documentary by Nick Broomfield) ALL suspect that Kurt was murdered.
Please look into this more before badmouthing the people who are just asking for a proper investigation based on evidence and objectivity over lies and assumptions.
Never knew after all this time Mark was with Dylan and Tom Grant looking for Kurt. They always depict it as different
I wondered how it was never mentioned in the loads of docos I've watched...he must of somehow told them not to involve him.
I never heard of this Hicks guy before and I have intimately followed everything Lanegan and Cobain/ Nirvana for the last thirty years
Yeah I love mark I look up to him just in pure drive and he's a og savage lol...but I've been knowing what Courtney or David geffin or both done to Kurt for a long time and a lot of names go into covering it up and you'll see sadly mark is one of those folks but man to the victor go the spoils it was in all Seattle best interest to not fuck with folks willing to lay the murder game down so well...I mean the hit on Kurt was almost military executed they only slipped up a little honestly and still kept it under raps to this day ...I know they gotta be happy mark ain't around cause he liked to talk a lot and I'm not talking shit I love his stories I love his music and Idk of he ever took payment for lying in some of these stories...if mark was there grant someone sure not to leave a detail like that out he would have said that...the story with Dylan and him and Kurt OD that probably did happen...but there's certain places he injects himself and I know he wasn't there or all things point to him not being there...hey mark could spin a yarn lol...he didnt want Courtney as and enemy and I wouldn't either...Kurt was a good dude ans tried to do right by his women for what i could see ..he let his guard down and underestimated what big money can do to people but he stayed small tow kurt in many ways ...but yeah im like prettt ceetain mark wasn't with grant that night...anyway I wanna say rest in peace to both those guys or shall i say all those guys cause not many left from the era...what a bunch of legends and im glad any of them and the music played apart in my childhood growing up...and I hope kurt gets justice the truth is out there and many of us know.
@@KevinPrittsthis is an insane rant……he lad decades to tell some truths if there were some, you conspiracy theorists are insane, according to you all “nobody wants to get on Courtney’s bad side” out of fear yet you morons have slammed her relentlessly for decades 🙄🙄🙄🙄 get over your hard on for Kurt 💅💅💅
I knew that the record company had something to do with his death!! Kurt was going to cost them to lose A LOT of money if he would have quit Nirvana. If you had watched the ASF video, with him talking to Kurt's uncle, he had a big gash on his right shin, and had some kind of damage to his genitals, it was obviously a hit.
It's a huge shame Pat Smear and Mark Lanegan both missed calls from Kurt that week. Who knows how those events could have affected the outcome of April 1994 had they been able to take those calls. It might have changed nothing. It might have changed everything.
Kurt wouldn’t have lasted 5 seconds in this era, with all the fentanyl. Heroin is so whack. Any drug that destroys your soul and will to live is super lame.
Actually, he'd be fine if he didn't die during the early days of being on fent. It makes your tolerance so high the only thing that'll kill you is benzos or clean time followed by using. I am on 310mg methadone (1000mg morphine equivalent) and still use fentanyl on top of it often, and I only get high sometimes, anyways. I miss shooting heroin cut with fentanyl, but I had so many close calls with that shit, that I haven't ever had while using fentanyl alone.
I think k kurt did try fentanyl. He found white heroin in New York and had couple random ads he didint expect. He prob found some fent
@@stella-vu8vhBeen there, I hope you’re doing better now but we all have to take our own paths
Still alive @@stella-vu8vh?❤🙏🏻
I hear ya, I wouldn't try to defend H forra second, it robbed my town of a brain, but cracks robbed it's VERY soul..sad 😢
Honest to god I'm surprised Mark Lanegan made it this far. He must have had a real awakening at some point.
'Heroin stopped me dying of alcoholism'
-- Mark Lanegan
He recently passed away
He passed away on 22nd. February 2022.
I think he had bad covid.
He got clean for good in 2005 or 2006. But sadly did recently passed. What he meant here is heroin makes you feel the need to not drink and most trade alcoholism for heroin addiction. I did. But I’m clean now as well. It’s just what it does. He’s not saying heroin saved him from certain death, listen further into his book. You’ll see he never meant that. And that was only his thoughts at the time he was using it.
Lots of smokers die of lung sickness or bad lungs born with. Kilinda iyi my fav high dose mushroom user died of lung infection at 60 or something
This story is crazy
I keep coming back to it. It's so sad and horror. Kurt alone oding he enabling friend watching him for hour in window. Like no one really cared about kurt. Od in Rome opps let's keep touring pretend it won't happen again happy family
What a sad and heavy story, I'm sorry for Kurt and I'm sorry for Mark, despite everything, he had no way of knowing and the guilt must have consumed him until the last day of his life. Rest in peace!
Chapter 11 of The Mysterious Death of Kurt Cobain; on Thursday April 7th Tom Grant states he picked up Lanegan and Dylan Carlson and took them to a drug dealer so they could ask if she'd seen Kurt. They shoot heroin in there and then Grant took Mark back to his home.
No mention of the search of Cobain's house that day, so either Lanegan made it up or Grant chose to omit it.
There’s so many what if’s and if only’s when it comes to Kurt. I just wish he didn’t do what he did.
He didn't
@@sstaners1234 Grow up you tabloid gossip dork
@@opaloid he did
@@sstaners1234 get a life dude....like really: when you live a life of your own, you get to see friends killing themselves, and many things seem odd, because you try to find a reason that many times isnt possible to find...stop watching stupid documentaries and movies...life is tough, people are sad and drugs are a harsh reality....Kurt was famous, thats the only difference...GROW THE FUCK UP
@@sstaners1234 Lots of nonsense you wrote there.
Maturity is realizing Kurt in fact killed himself. He was done.
It's hard to think that both these guys are now gone especially how many years kurt has been gone now way longer these guys left a legacy behind that will never be forgotten it will always be remembered for further generations to come their music will always stay i hope 🙏 your at peace 🕊️ now Mark your with Kurt probably having a concert up there as we speak.
I wish they were but I think we both know where they are...
@@austinpaquin2465They're dead.
@@austinpaquin2465 Yeah your probably right
Thankyou for this very rare .loved kurt 🇮🇪😥
@@jennahell thankyou will download
@@jennahell thanks just did that .I just like to buy stuff in record stores ect .don't like down loading.would rather walk into record shop and buy vinal .l am a collector been collecting vinal for years .so don't do stuff like audo books.anyway thankyou for enlightens me .rock on !!!
@@catherineflanagan1587 I feel the same way. Enjoy every second of it! I’ve listened to it several times. Take care x
@@jennahell you 2 greetings from🇮🇪🙂😎
@@catherineflanagan1587 🇨🇦🥰
It's weird that Grant, an investigaror, never checked the room above the garage that day. "Ok checked everywhere let's go"
I read the book.....but hearing Mark recite it is a different experience. Sad
do you possibly mean "recite"? Sorry - not trying to be rude. Legitimately curious because recant seems like an odd choice.
It is sad. A really upsetting read. RIP Mark.
@@cautionTosser Yes.....recite. Thank you
what is the book called?
@@guitargeometryrecant stop
It still just baffles me why NOBODY thought to check that greenhouse. Lanegan obviously knew it was there. He admitted he almiost went upo there. He knew that Tom and Dylan were checking rthe house, so how in the hell was that room overlooked?
That’s so sad… R.I.P. Mark and Kurt.
It's sad that they are both gone along with all the others of the movement mark lanegan lasted longer than most and died of natural causes it's wild cause he was the wildest guy of them all plus him and Kurt Cobain being close friends and this story is so sad ❤😭😭😭😭😭😭
Such heartwarming stories...
Max Payne vibe
"Come on over and listen to records with me". He conquered the rock world but in the end, all that lonely soul wanted was a friend to hang out with. Damn.
Mark is my spirit animal.
😅😅😅 please, just a junky who is a slave to dope
Thank you, Mark
cool to hear this
Bukowski vibes here.
I bet mark would laugh if u told him that
yeah. when I was a kid I idolized all these rockstars. and really wanted to try H, because all my favorite artists did it. Anyway I've been to rehab 3 times, and spent a good portion of my teenager years in solitary confinement
Great music but terrible role models
@@ryansohlich3589
Pearl Jam was made up of good role models. Eddie Vedder was polar opposite of that drug life.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 That's why they always sucked.
@@andrepereira744???
@@SeIfishmachines Do you remember when Eddie Veder used to fake he was on hard drugs? I do.
This guy sounds like he'd be good at doing voice over work for horror movie trailers.
He died. Mark Lanegan is no longer with us.
@@nickcharles6530
No cause of death released too. Sucks.
He won't be doing much of anything now, and certainly not voice overs.
I think Covid fucked him up.
This guys singing Voice was legendary, and agree after hearing the whole book i thought he could have been an awesome narrator also.
This is so haunting, I can't stop listening to it.
Why didn’t Mark just tell Rosemary he had gotten a couple of voicemails from Kurt sounding upbeat? That he was more than likely maybe at his own house. This is the first time that this information was announced via Marks book yet no mention of him letting Tom Grant or anyone else hear the message or it mentioned in Grants “Cobain Case” files. Mark was with Tom searching for Kurt so why didn’t he mention it? Doesn’t matter if he felt crappy about not answering or replying to the call, he should have said it happened. Don’t know if it would have helped in any way but it may have?…
How's Jessica Hopper doing?
You talk too much.
Because Grant is a liar and makes up his own stories and liberties. Such as accusing Dylan of already having found the body but not telling him because he stayed away for 15 minutes. You are just a sensation seeker. Kurt shot himself. He was out of his mind in his drug binge and probably wouldn't have done it if he wasn't so deep into the dope at the time. All of his junkie friends in and around the estate have since cleaned up and are still alive. At the time all of them overdosed constantly.
@@edadick1625did you read the part of marks book where he calls people like you “crackpots” and “ldlots”?
@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc
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Sing Backwards And Weep sounds like quite a read. Most unceremonious of the universe to take Lanegan away from us the year it was published.
RIP Mark, your music just got better and better
Rip kurt rip Mark and rip so many others 😢
I don't have a lot of nostalgia from that dark era. I abused of drugs/alcohol during those times too. I got tired of that depression-state tone over the years and to start to listen to other styles of music. Music is like drugs, having effects on your brain and it can be bad side-effects. I'm sober for years, even during the pandemic and that my dad died in 2021, I didn't open a beer. I don't need antidepressant pills too, I keep my serotonine level high naturally.
we all are slaves, with or without drugs.
I was really into the Seattle stuff when I was younger, but now very rarely listen to it. I'd say Nirvana are the only band I still listen to on a regular basis. It certainly was a very gloomy music scene.
Glad you're in a better state of mind now ✌
I love grunge music but no way I’m doing any of that stuff it’s so sad seeing drugs kill people slowly
Congrats on the sobriety!
Same I only listen to trap rap. Yne sosa, rx papi, rxk nephew and rx 2doe. Can't listen to thar depression music anymore
It’s awful that Mark carried so much unnecessary guilt. Kurt and Layne were grown men and chose to use heroin. If Mark didn’t help them get heroin and crack someone else would.
That wasn't a near overdose. That's an overdose. Not every overdose is fatal
Wrong. Death is precisely what makes it an OVER dose. Besides that it's just a heavy dose.
The title says near fatal OD, fatal meaning causing death.
Near Fatal OD. Learn to read. overdose that was nearly fatal
8reat point.
@AD-BC-84 near is the word they are refuting.
I wonder if Kurt called anyone else just before this incident happened, which I am still not sure went down like they say it did with Kurt's death. You can feel Mark's pain through his words and that he truly loved Kurt. How tragic.
"You shithead." Yep, listening to this man's own words and version of the story, I have to agree with Cobain's assessment of him.
powerful words from mark
I think he knew what happened and I think that’s why he died, same to Anthony Bourdain who was his friend. Funny how both ended dead.
Mark’s voice is incredible. RIP.
Sounds like the dude from that God Speed You Black Emperor song, "the towers collapsed in on themself" guy
Two hours
?
Did he really say Kurt crawled to the door for two hours??
If he was an enabler heroin user and didint care about kurt back then as he should of. Didint want to call cops cause kurt hates public knowing
I would love to know what day this was that this overdose happened. The timeline would be very interesting to know
Kurt was clean in Rome. Justice For Kurt
I saw the video Mark Lannegan's life as a homeless drug dealer before I saw this one.
Noted.
The pain and guilt of life is enough to want to live without it all together. I will NEVER believe Kurt did anything to physically hurt himself but this is not the same. This is a human being learning the guilt and processing it properly. Kurt had been healed of his stomach illness by the time of In Utero's touring and the constant fighting over his "will" knowing he never planned to write one until a certain woman pushed him so hard as she would do anything for a taste of what he was naturally. Mark's pain is very real and it is a beautiful sadness I can't explain but he was lucky to have a friend care so much I wish everyone all that same love.
Oh yeah....Ive never heard of any depressed drug addict hating his life and killng himself ever before....he was clearly killed....grow up moron...
beautifuly said
All Ms Hate cared and still cares about us Fame, $$, and that name that brings her all that, Cobain. She didn't pay a sound tech so he put her isolated guitar playing. Wow. So many say she's such a rockstar. She can't even play her own songs she supposedly wrote. How's that work? I'll never believe he did what is said. His interviews and footage from summer 93 on and after baby was back home with Kurt he was always smiling. I know this does not prove anything but almost all the ppl I've lost to self death, none was happy like that. All was very down all the time. I'm not saying it was a given but I knew something was really off and tried to reach out. But ppl that are down don't answer fone, door, or welfare checks by cops. So what are we to do? Idk why Kurt went back to seattle. Wish he went to Stipes and made music. But he'd never leave Frances behind. Then Kristin dies after being sober, then Det Terry who was finding where tge dope that killed them came from, then Eldon, Then Det Cameron is found to be a dirty cop. So many things to throw this off.
Dude, Kurt did it to himself. You have absolutely no clue what went on in his head. Stop droning on about stuff you don't have any actual proof or knowledge of.
@@Yourmomgoestocolledge Well that's a blurred line. No we don't have actual video proof he did or didnt. We do have video from interviews, home videos, etc seemed pretty happy with baby. I know when I had kids the thought of them being alive and me not be or be around is terrible. We do have a guy who said he was offered 50k to kill and he passed 2 polygraph tests, same tests that are given to ALL applicants to be in a 3 letter job or the like. We have ppls words that say he wasn't suicidal like Rosemary Carroll their entertainment attorney who was mattie to a guy who wrote a very detailed book about heroin addiction, Jim Carroll. As soon as she knew Tom was recording she snapped shut quicker than a nuns legs. Alot of the bands that was on last tour, meat puppets, Melvins etc said kurt looked heathy and well. We will never know until we get a time machine. But in my life experience in dealing with buddies from the service who ended their lives, friends, family, etc he sure didn't seem like he was that depressed or down. Especially when holding baby. He was ecstatic. But urr opinion is urr opinion. Like buttholes, we all have 1 and most ppl think theirs don't stink. But just cause u may start the love making by kissing and I start by suckling her toes, that don't mean urr right or I'm right. Guess it's just about the journey there. Happy pegging.
I was 10 and got into my house in 10 seconds by breaking a window. This guy stood outside a door knocking and yelling for 2 hours? He watched his good friend slowly crawl to the door for at least an hour? None of this has been mentioned on any level for 25 years? A PI has been talking about this death to anyone that will listen for 30 years, and never once did he mention Mark being there with him to search the house because he's a "nice guy"? I don't buy it. Mark, the druggy, confused another day with one of the days leading up to Kurts body being found. Then he had to write a book, couldn't remember alot from those days, remembered SOME of 2 different incidents, and filled in the blanks with his imagination. We all do it. Even myself. Sometimes to the point that we believe what our imagination has filled in, just because it "feels right" or it's because it's what we think we could have done.
"Drugs will fuck up your life" -Kurt Cobain
His voice alone is terrifying knowing what’s coming when he speaks.
"You never know where the twain shall meet." again
Damn his life was brutal.. 😢
Is it really believable that Lanegan would stand outside the home of a friend (a multi-millionaire) who had OD'd, for almost two hours, just yelling and "urging" him on?? As opposed to breaking a window (that may have cost a couple hundred dollars to replace) and immediately getting inside to provide actual hands-on support? The story sounds either completely false or highly, highly exaggerated.
Yeah - I had a problem with that too. It seems like anybody would break a window, get in there as fast as you could, to help your friend. As opposed to watching the torturous scene that Mark described.
Yes, I call bs too
Plus, in a 1994 Rolling Stone article published right after Kurt’s death, mark stated that Kurt hadn’t called him or ANYBODY in the days before his death. So which story is true? The one right after Kurt died or the one after Courtney put mark through rehab?
Plus if Kurt's to the point where he can stand up, (he just keeps falling down) then any user knows - he's fine. He's past the threshold of dying, you can see the addicts in the streets do this
Last thing an addicted dealer wants to do to his celebrity addict is break a window and take a chance of having cops pull up and put an OD’d Kurt Cobain on blast along with possible surveillance and the headline news stating Mark Lanegan murders Kurt Cobain
I don’t believe it all went down like this. I know this guy was part of the scene but he pretty dramatic
Why didn't they just bust the window and get in that way to save Kurt?
They were going to Mark sent his friend to get a rock to break the window, Kurt gained JUST enough strength to pick himself up and shamble his way to the door
@@grungeisdead8998 okay but they said they were there for about an hour
@@theseattlegreen1871 because this made for a better story. same with "i knocked off the 1/4 inch cherry from my cigarette..."
Dude was a heroin addict. I don't expect him to have the razor-sharp recall he's claiming to have had.
@@theseattlegreen1871 he said 2 hours.
That's exactly what I was thinking during the time he was narrating the incident. He got on my nerves, dude, just do something, now!!! Unbelievable
I nearly found you there
Folks and fans praise drugs and especially Kurt Cobain's drug habits yet never do say " Say No To Drugs because Drugs can Kill You when Using Them ".
It's far worse than killing you, I've seen junkies become living zombies, good people turned into something else nearly unrecognizable
The drugs aren’t the problem.
The drugs are merely a symptom of the problem
That's legalization for ya 😆
The private investigator had some interesting evidence to prove that Kurt did not kill himself. I just wonder what would have happened if Mark hung out with him that day.
He didn't have any evidence that he didn't kill himself, because he did kill himself.
No there is no evidence, if you mean the fingerprints. They weren't checked until over 4 weeks later when it gun had been in evidence control. Actually there were several prints found on the gun, but the prints were not clear enough to identify. Kurt did have a trigger imprint on his thumb, you can see it in a picture.
@@Overlorddz if that’s all you know, I’m sorry. There is so much more evidence. Watch the film Soaked in Bleach. The private investigator that Courtney hired had more evidence against her than evidence that Kurt killed himself
@@B-420 Yeah, that documentary is amazing. I think it's on *_RUclips_* now for free. The whole thing stinks to high Heaven.
@@B-420to be persuaded by a “documentary” that hires actors is juvenile. Use your common sense. The police would NEVER let a high profile murderer get away with it even there was even an inkling of evidence. The fact is you can make crack pot theories about anything as long as you’re ignorant and gullible. I’m not even an expert but immediately saw how the so called “evidence” have holes. There is an assumption that injecting heroin is instant. No it is not instant and anyone could have time to shoot them selves after a lethal dose. I’ve shot heroin before is how I know. Also, all of Kurt’s friends and family that he associated himself with agreed he killed himself.
If only Mark had answered Kurts calls.
I honestly don’t think it would have changed the outcome. And if it did that day, the suicide would have been carried out eventually. It had been in Paris just prior. Sadly that’s how these play out.
Kurt wasn’t going to be around much longer no matter what.
Mark answers and it might have altered THAT DAY, but Kurt was on a runaway freight train headed towards a 1000 ways to die.
It wouldn't have changed anything unless mark changed him self and dylan carlson to be better friends. Which kurt needed not h dealers
Kurt ods in Rome and his wife and band and everyone like let's keep touring we need money. No 9ne cared till they got sober or matured or when he was gone
❤ RIP Mark
What was the date of this incident?
Wait... Huh? Unless my memory just sucks now... I don't seem to recall Tom Grant ever mentioning anything about Mark Lanegan being involved in the search for Kurt?
Agree. I don't remember Him being mentioned either.
In the movie Kurt and Courtney he does mention going to Kurt’s house with this friend and the friend dodging a lot it’s on recording too
Maybe don't listen to lying grifters like that clown then?
While I love Marks music it doesn’t follow that I believe anything he said. A junkies memories can be a mixture of truth and and the lies they tell themselves.
what a bozo comment
That is no different that that of a non junky.
@@scottashe984
🤘 😮 🤘
At least Mark isn’t making this all about himself.
why was kurt angry with mark at reading 1992?
Justice For KURT ❤
Also- Kurt didn’t get back into Seattle from Exodus until after midnight on April 2nd, if he called Mark the same day he came back from rehab it would have been very late at night/before dawn on the 2nd. It was pry later in the day on 2nd, and not the day before like Mark says. He might have been a little hazy in recollection due to him being on heroin.
Yeah, youd forgive him that im sure! It's not great for the old memory.. Not as bad as Xans for it but still bad!
@@damotheman4196kurt had a predilection for klonopin and H.
You got your dates wrong. Kurt left Exodus rehab on March 31 after checking in on the 30th. He was already back in Seattle by the 1st, cuz he bought shotgun shells with Dylan on the 2nd.
I think Kurt probably tried to call Mark on the 3rd, then Mark/Tom/Dylan went to the house on the 5th a few hours after Kurt killed himself. Kurt most likely killed himself super early in the morning on the 5th, sometime between 12am-5am. They went to the house in late morning or early afternoon a few hours later.
Mark probably missed a day between while also confusing the day Kurt left rehab with the day he got the call.
U sir are COMPLETELY UNINFORMED. Do some mild research and u will find Kurt Cobain’s flight back from LA to Seattle didnt land until after midnight on the 2nd of April 1994. Delta flight 788 in which Duff Mckagen from GnR was on. Kurt left exodus on Friday April 1st after jumping over the wall.
Secondly, the gun was purchased by Dylan and Kurt on March 30, 1994. A simple google search and u can see a pic of the actual receipt from Stan Baker’s gun shop. Kurt flew to La later in evening to go to Exodus. Dylan did NOT see Kurt when he came back from Exodus. AT ALL. He was not with him on the 2nd buying shotgun shells. Kurt was picked up by a Seattle cab alone very early in the morning on the 2nd and was looking for stores open to buy shotgun shells. There weren’t any open n so the driver dropped him off at the crest trailer park on aurora, which is where one of his dealers lived.
Kurt later in the day bought the shells at a gun store on 145th and Lake City way called Seattle Guns. The receipt of which would be found at his feet in the paper bag containing the box of shotgun shells. He also had a piece of paper in his front pocket which said Seattle Guns 145th & Lake City.
U are out of ur element here. U have no idea who I am. Let’s just say I’m very close to the Nirvana story. N I actually talked to Dylan Carlson yesterday. He’s a friend and one of the sweetest guys in the world. Dylan would have never even gone to help purchase the gun for Kurt on the 30th, had he known that Rome was an actual suicide attempt and not an accidental overdose, but Courtney didn’t even let his close friends know that Rome was indeed an intentional suicide attempt with a note written by Kurt. If u wanna find out about me and my fandom, my insta is @ferilld0. Get on the level homie and learn some facts, instead of spouting off bullshit.
Also- Tom and dylan were there on the 5th, but it was the evening of the 5th n very briefly. Not in the pre-dawn hours after midnight. Kurt was seen at Linda’s tavern on Monday night the 4th. He would have been returning to the house around midnight maybe after which then obviously becomes the 5th. The note was written in the house. The last 4 lines were written on the floor of the greenhouse which is why it looks different. Kurt wasn’t up there in the greenhouse with a light on writing out his note. His bed had been layed in, mtv was on, and REM ‘automatic for the people’ had been playing in his cd player. He was in the house that night.
If Tom and Dylan or anybody would have come to the house that night they would have found him up in the house. Kurt probably killed himself in the very early morning of the 5th. It was probably when the sun was coming up or shortly after. Dylan and TG didn’t come back to the house until later that evening on the 5th when he was already dead.Tom and Dylan were not really staking out the house at 171 lake wash. Blvd. They were staking out Caitlin Moore’s apartment building on 11th & Denny way in Capitol hill. She was his main dealer at this time and who he was seen with at the Cactus restaurant on Easter Sunday April 3rd. Her apartment building can be seen in ‘soaked in bleach’ in the short video clips in the beginning of the movie. They were there waiting for Kurt to show up on the evenings of the 4,5, & 6th as seen in the time stamp of the video. Her address was listed on Kurt’s missing persons report.
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Did not realise Lanegan had been with Grant and Dylan on that ill-fated day...
Courtney off’d his ass!
H is time bomb you just hope people get clean before it goes off.
My first thought we be break a window
High people are not bright
"They" say you gotta hit rock bottom before you begin to get well, that's okay for your average addict, but worth millions, adored by tens of millions, gold, platinum, RnR hall of fame, dealers literally line up to sell you anything you want,.. kicking a £50 to £100 habit a day of mediocre gears sheer terror, although this "black tar" i hear em talk bout is piss weak, theirs gear on East coast Scotland thats dropping well seasoned addicts at the moment,! Extremely dark brown rocky gear, nowt like this in over a decade.
The way they responded (or didn't respond) likely resulted in anoxic brain injury
Watching him for 2 hrs on floor), not getting him medical attention. It wasn't bc press, it was bc he was the dealer and didn't want to get in trouble. His concern was that he may no longer be able to profit off Kurt's suffering
@@SoulDelSol That's disgusting
That doesn't make sense either, a dealer would want to keep his cash cow alive, Cobain was an endless flow of money. He is probably embellishing, or making it all up.
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Did anyone ever try to pinpoint the dealer that sold Kurt his last batch ?
Anyone know where I can listen to the whole thing for free. I am flat broke so I can't buy the audio book.
Should still be up here on RUclips
@dls3939 it is just the exerpts on YT. Like his Layne Stanely stories. This guy is slowly uploading cuts from his copy. Unless you have a link or title I should type for the full thing?
@@RotatableHorse Dont have a link, sorry but yeah just type the full thing. Its the whole audio book. Someone put it up after he passed, hope its still up. Its called Sing Backwards and Weep A memoir - Mark Lanegan
@@RotatableHorse Someone just uploaded it again 2 hours ago by the look of it.
I can’t guarantee that *this* particular audio-book is avail through your local library, but it’s without-a-doubt worth looking into. I have found that different public / municipal libraries and different university libraries sometimes have a slightly different audio-book software delivery method, so the the first time you ever use their system it may take 15-or 20 minutes to download the software and “check out” the book (virtually), but then every time subsequent to the first time, it’ll be quick, easy, & hassle-free. (I’m almost always listening to podcasts or audio-books. Like, I’m *literally* a musician who almost NEVER listens to music anymore… and it’s not as if I dislike new music: naw, there’s just heaps of good literature that can be read aloud to me at the touch of a button 🎼)
Thank God for good Samaritan laws no one has to try to deal with this anymore call a ambulance or if you know what a opioid od is and have narcain administer that and still call
And he eventually paid the price himself. R.I.P.
Where does this come from?
I'm assuming the audiobook of 'Sing Backwards and Weep'
RIP
didnt he supply layne even though he was sober
Yes and no. Layne just went into rehab becausw everyone was begging him to.
Was this early 94?
they are two stories at different times, if I'm not mistaken the first at Kurt's house in California, the second in Seattle...
92-94
Alegaly, of course ...
Break the window.
I wish people could understand how much more *DEEPLY* shady, disgusting and dark it is that Lanegan tells this _story_ about Kurt "twisting his ankle so hard it looked like it had broken" and why that's so dark, shady and disgusting. He's being very slyly honest when he says - after calling himself an enabler - "I'm actually something much worse..." The dark truths and twisted lies woven in this one passage retold here in this video; the odd anecdote about Kurt "twisting his ankle," Rosemary Carroll being "extremely smart and no nonsense," it's all so much deeper and darker than - sadly - the majority of people who love and care for Kurt Cobain will ever realize. Whatever Lanegan owed Courtney Love, it was a lot. At least he never pretended to have a conscience.
You are a piece of shit. People like you put Kurt on a pedestal as if you knew him personally, as if you were his disciple and lash out anyone who pokes holes to the narrative you made yourself believe in. As if that's not enough, you talk bullshit without reading entire book and related chapters to Kurt and later Courtney. Be a maggot somewhere else.
@@edadick1625 He was kind to Courtney despite his dislike of her, upon Courtney hearing his condition in late 90s-early 2000s era. Similar to act of kindness he received from Duff McKagan. Courtney told him Kurt would have done the same. Helped him get into rehab, a treatment paid in full, sent him brand new clothes and some more. Even then, Lanegan treated her badly and ignored her initiallly but eventually relented. Later became grateful for saving his life.
I’m trying very hard to understand what you mean about the ankle…hobbling Kurt ? Kurt kicking Mark and/or Mark’s friend to fight back against…something ? (Why ankle ?) additional unexamined injection site ?
Redpill me on Kurt's ankle. What about that story specifically set you off? I agree though, he's spinning a web here. He wasn't with Tom Grant and Dylan Carlson when they went looking for Kurt. Nobody ever mentioned him going with them, not even the men who were there.
@@madhatter8508 @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer I’m from the East Coast & I’m only a little younger than these guys. I suppose I don’t have any special “right to know” or right to ask about these matters. But, on the way to go work on Alaskan catching & processing boats in the 1990s, I caught some special-meaning dear to me-shows at the Off Ramp, and I enjoyed time at the OK Hotel: it’s red painted walls gave it a different sort of atmosphere inside. Pioneer Square: art galleries in the daytime & good music at night-time. Eileen’s on Broadway was undeniably “my local,” it had changed from being Ernie Steele’s not long before my arrival. I feel like I could’ve easily been in the same room with these guys a few times and not known it. It’s just because I’ve thought about these people a lot since their passing, and I read their words in print pretty often when they were around. So, OP if you’d make a “throwaway” account to explain the ankle, I’ll read that and just shut up about it after knowing. Not knowing the truth, my brain has been kinda stuck on this for a while, like a compulsive itch or a skipping-loop on a vinyl record.
Isn't it weird that there is so much mystery and hysteria about one of the most iconic people to ever be... yet if someone else less famous died in this manner the investigation wouldve been more defined? 🤔
Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly.
No. Only FANatical conspiracy theorists insist on not letting KC rest in peace.
Yea
Just cuz the cops didn’t call you personally doesn’t mean it wasn’t thorough. you dorks are paranoid delusionals seeing conspiracy everywhere cuz you WANT to. the dude killed himself. Get over it. not much to do or say after they find a suicide note and gun in his mouth. absolute muppets
@@andrepereira744nope case will be reopened soon if you’re a true fan of Kurt you’d want to get justice for him
Will Farrell had a band?
Rest in peace Kurt rest in peace mark