Cafe De Rene Episode 15 | Chris Benoit
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2021
- Bonjour and welcome to Cafe De Rene with Rene Dupree, this week was viewers choice and ya's voted for Chris Benoit for today's topic. In this episode we talk about benoits rise to superstardom in wrestling, Rene's interactions and experiences with benoit, what benoit told rene after Eddie Guerrero passed away, Rene's reaction to hearing about the benoit family tragedy, and why that lead towards rene leaving wwe.
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Wrestlemania 20, Benoit making HHH tap out and then celebrating with Eddie, was one of my greatest wrestling memories of all time. Amazing and sad.
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As much as a cena fan I am I love cena he givin me the best moments of my life but wrestlemaina 20 that moment Eddie and Chris was and is my favourite wrestling moment of all time and il die with that memory so sad that kids today will never know how great Eddie and Chris was
@@leonwatkins5072 2 of the both greatest technical wrestlers of all time. Yea obviously there's Bret and Micheals and the ones of today but since we are talking about those 2 in here that's why I mentioned them first.
Amen. My favourite wrestlemania in this life
Over the last few months finding this podcast,it’s been dope. This is very authentic
The fact that these guys were bullying Rene who was a goddamn kid at the time says so much about WWE as a place and how big of a POS Vince is to not only allow it but encourage it. I’m glad that Rene is even still here let alone healthy and happy.
because he left that depressive environment, good for him
It was a great episode. Thank you Rene for sharing about Chris Benoit.
My favorite match of Benoit was against Bret in the Owen tribute match. After listening, it makes me wish he would have left the company if he had the chance.
Mine too!
Rene Dupree has the pulse of all wrestling in his mind. Even i forgot about the Rockin Rebel and I was a die hard C.Z.W. Fan where he spent alot of time.
Merci d’avoir partagé vos expériences avec Chris Benoit.
This is a solid podcast and to me, one of the very few podcast channel that is 1000% real and you Rene rock. Glad I discovered your channel via Hannibal TV podcast. Greetings from Southern California....Gerald.
Kurt Angle told a similar story about being in a house show match with Eddie Guerrero and Eddie suddenly standing in the corner for extended periods and saying not to touch him.
I appreciate how real & heated Rene got here 35:00
I appreciate him talking about eating disorders & vanity based things in the business. Thank you Rene for being real & James is like no filter! Lol You guys are awesome. 👍🏻
Chris and his family is a tragic story and I feel too many paint him as just a pure monster rather than a guy with mental issues that was watching his world crash around him. Not excusing his actions but its sad to hear he wanted to escape and couldn't. May him, Nancy, and Daniel rest is peace. It's really a shame to see a guy fall from grace and take his family and his legacy with him....
CTE 100% proven in the autopsy his father ordered. Like a lot of NFL players at the time, he was described as an 80-something advanced dementia brain in his 40-something body with the added effects from steroid use and who knows what else. It was in the newsletters back then, I recall vividly.
Your the third person to say he wanted out and was thinking of going back to Japan. Love how you have the balls to say what most dont. Happy New Year bud
Wwe low balled him on his last contact and benoit was opening up a wrestling school
Hey Rene, what did you make of Benoit rarely doing any promos after Eddie’s passing? From what I can remember he barely spoke after that on TV especially leading up to the tragedy. Did any of the superstars also notice this or think anything of it?
Rene seems cool and highly Intelligent. One of the few wrestlers I would still pay to see/meet.
I remember hhh mocking Chris masters in a backstage skit and I don’t know how many years later hhh has this “cardiac event” pretty sure we won’t get that Styles vs HHH mania match this year..
I mean let’s recognize facts that HHH had a genetic defect in his heart called a widow maker. Even if he said douchey stuff before that one ain’t on him. It’s a family history issue and dide is super lucky to be alive - thing is called widow maker for a reason.
@@Matt-cr4vv I didn't know that about H. My assumption was a possibility of a vax side effect.... It has been a lot of cases yet that info gets heavily redacted nowadays. Though I could be wrong
I'm selfish on this issue, and I just want to forget those last few days of his life.
I wish that Nancy, Daniel, and Chris were all still here.
I started watching WWE shortly after WM 20 and Benoit quickly became my favorite even though I missed the big mania moment. He had an intensity that has never been matched.
Least you didn’t bow down to the fkn people who kiss ass. Actual sad that 40+ year olds think bullying a 18 year old at the time is tough, half of them never would of had a real fight in their life. Keep doing you rene.
I loved hearing Rene’s side of the lumberjack match between Eddie & Kurt. I’ve heard a couple of different people talking about it & it really brought to life just how bad of a place Eddie was in physically. May he Rest In Peace .
These podcast are great. Very insightful
This is crazy I absolutely hated you as a kid😂 now I realize you just did your job really well thanks so much for the child hood memories these podcasts are great!
Rene was a good French wrestling that should have had WWE backing him up at the time he went against Cena. Rene was so big for his age it was not even fair for most wrestlers. I for sure though he would have been in WWE for a while longer. God bless this man is still here with a good head on his shoulders. I would here stories about the guy about him not being here to this day. 🛐💯
I like that it’s just long enough to make the points without the bullshit. Appreciated listen
This was the best show so far it is great to hear the realness as sad as it may be. Keep it up!
Thank you, I think having ya's vote on the show topics is something we'll probably do going forward
Belgique? Belgium ? Neighborhood France
How about we have a vote on about having a vote on the show to have us vote on the show for us to vote on the show
Another great episode! Good job guys. I've listened to pretty much everything out there about Benoit bc he was my favourite as a kid. Rene offers interesting insight about Benoit wanting to leave WWE. For an extreme perfectionist like Chris, I imagine the desire to leave WWE after Eddie died and the pressure to stay to provide the same standard of living for his family was an unbearable conflict and very likely contributed to his instability towards the end of his life. I'm surprised more hasn't been said about this.
This is one of the best wrestling podcasts out there I love it keep up the great work
Great show Rene!
An episode on the effects of painkillers on the industry is sorely needed! Can't wait for it. Y'all have become integral to my morning routine
Like him or not, Rene is one of the smartest, most well rounded guys in the business.
Glad he's still making tours in Japan.
Great episode. Despise what the man allegedly did but i will never stop being a fan of his work. Big fan of yours btw. Any chance you can cover on a future episode of your podcast the backstage politics you had to deal with backstage in 2003-2007? Would love to hear the stories
I know im a year late but i loved la resistance I played with you on smackdown vs raw 2007 thank u for the memories growing up i love you ❣️
Amazing listen. Such a good mind for the business. One of the most underrated in my opinion.
All hail The French Phenom!
Benoit always had a great physique but he was probably the most jacked right before his neck injury in 2001.
Great podcast I watched it twice
Thanks for squeezing this in during lunch. Appreciated listening to you chew for 45 minutes
Our pleasure
Another Fantastic episode guys!!! I'd be personally interested to listen to an episode on the effects of pain killers!!
Thank you, definitely a topic we're gonna cover
Can Rene talk about Sean O Haire? I know they weren't around on the same brand but maybe they might've crossed paths in developmental.
Mentioned him briefly in our matt Morgan episode, but I'm sure we'll talk more about him in the future
If you're interested James interviewed chuck palumbo on his channel and spoke about Sean. ruclips.net/video/M-XIhYbtKI0/видео.html
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Hi Rene loving your channel so far and your wrestling career. Happy new year from Australia.
Happy New year
Still remember randy beating chis for the belt
everybody does
Bonjour René. I saw you wrestling in France in 2008 when i was 13, you fought against Andrew Test Martin and it was a great moments to see Le Phénomène Français. Were you close with Test ? He seemed like a nice guy to me
Enjoyed this video. Interesting things they touched upon.
Please do a show on the negative effects of painkillers and opiates/prescription drugs on the wrestling industry! First time I took a painkiller myself was for back pain from high school wrestling
Check out our matt Morgan episode in the full episodes playlist
Just read Ring of Hell and this episode is fascinating, but I gotta see if you ever did an episode on painkillers. I'm a recovering addict so the topic interests me on multiple levels. I can't imagine the desire to take them with such a physical job considering how it felt for me as a regular person.
In the ring bell to bell he was one of the best to do it.
En ce moment je regarde de nouveau la WWE du milieu des années 2000, et c'est un vrai bonheur de revoir votre travail, celui de Christ Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, etc... Merci pour les anecdotes et bonne chance pour l'avenir de la chaîne !
Loved your work with Robert Jacobs in UWF!
You know Rene,people want to pin Benoit's death on one thing but you really can't. It was a cullmination of issues that broke the man and the list is long. Eddie's death,drug's,concussion's,his anxiety about his carrer and maritial issues and his son's growth problem. It came to a breaking point over that weekendand the guy everyone knew and loved was lost in madness and two innocent lives were lost. It's tough to be a fan of Chris.On one hand I follwed the career of one of th best and in the end he became a murderer.And of his own child.How can anyone admire someone that did that? But I remind myself that I'm watching the man that everyone knew before it happened.But the cloud looms over it.Just wanted to chime in on my thought's.
I’m similar in a sense. As a kid he was one of my favorites and being young it was hard to grasp how his life ended. At as adult now I recognize how talented he was but I’ve probably watched less than five of his matches since. As much as I want to enjoy it it’s kinda difficult with the reminder of how things ended.
Back in the day my friends dad was probably the first smart mark I ever met. This was around 97-97 before everyone was on the internet being able to find out every lil detail about the business. His dad was from 5th ward Houston (a notoriously bad part of Houston) and a marine who served in Vietnam and rarely gave any of the wrestlers props as being true tuff guys other than Harlem Heat (from Htown as well). He would always give props to Benoit though. He’d say that’s one whiteboy I wouldn’t want to fight. Benoits shit was that damn good and legit looking he could convince the hardest of critics he was nuts, unfortunately it ended up being true.
Very interesting about Chris Nowinski being bought and paid for by Vince/WWE is very disheartening. That alone should be making main stream media. Wow. And that 50% of those in the concussion lawsuit are now deceased? Just wow. Great video, thank you.
When you have someone like Rene Depree be so fascinated about how Benoit got a physic like that then you know you’re physic is on another level 🤣
WCW Four Horsemen I had a huge crush on Nancy Benoit rest in peace same thing with Daniel I hope David has a wonderful career in professional wrestling if he still following his that dream
Chris was definitely 1 of the greatest in ring talents. And WWE will never give him his due
To paraphrase Vince, Chris screwed Chris.
Im 51, chris benoit was,is,the greatest wrestler i ever saw, i still proudly wear his merch, michaels/hart/ dont come close, hogans cartoonish (heelish) ways are a joke, Flair,Lawler,Jake,and the Road Warriors are my mount rushmore,but Benoit was the best. No arguement,cm punk n the american dragon dont come close.
I have a question for Rene (sorry for being mark to you but, I'm really a big fan of yours since the 2000s).
If La Resistance or Rene himself will have a reunion or in-ring return, what major company will you choose and why?
Ps. I noticed that you greet us in different languages, let me teach you in Filipino. Good day is "Magandang araw", how are you is "kumusta kayo dyan?"
More power on you Rene and James and to this channel.
It's mad to think that my 8 year old mind couldn't stand Rene Dupree because of his character on TV but listening to these podcasts he seems like a genuine dude 🤣 big ups
Benoit is the best ever.
7:34 LOL
I just fucking love you Rene… I’m so happy your healthy and safe…. I want you on national television again for one more run brother 🙏❤️💪
Renee aside from being criminally underrated in the ring is an awesome dude. So blunt, so real, so truthful...always tells it as it is. Tip towing around subjects like this is just not his style. Wish more in the business took a leaf from his book
I was wondering if you can give more details on Chris Benoit changing his will and leaving everything to his ex-wife
I would love to hear about the effects of pain killers on the industry!! I always love hearing the truth from Rene about things nobody else talks about. I would like to hear Rene talk about Eddie Guerrero and his experiences with him. I’ve met guys such as Ken Anderson and Rhino talk about Eddie and their experiences with him. I’ve also heard some things about Benoit from Rhino and one thing that sticks out to me is that Rhino would tell Benoit knock knock jokes and he’d have Benoit in tears from laughing so much. I absolutely love this channel and if I could give it more than one subscribe I would👍. I can’t wait until some shirts are released hopefully soon.
Thank you, very kind words sir
@@cafederene thank you for giving us the greatest wrestling podcast! I’ll always remain the number one supporter of this channel.🤙
ICP had funny Benoit story on you shoot interview
Same still is my fav moment ever
great podcast! but I think the audio is a bit too quiet
Hoping to get new mics to improve the audio soon.
Jeff Hardy in impact was brutal moment to high to preform but that was the offices fault they play dumb
Dixie clueless Carter's fault...the money mark who gave Hogan and Bischoff millions
The story of The Rockin Rebel (real name Chuck WIlliams, which he also used as a WWF preliminary wrestler) is tragic.
Gotta' love Rene
2 cold Scorpio vs Chris Benoit was some of the most absolute best wrestling matches I've ever seen
Can Renee do a full episode on his hatred for bubba Ray?
The 'decline' of pro wrestling didn't start with Benoit and Eddie winning belts. It may have started when both DIED though!
Big up to Tony Condello
Check out Chris Benoit by ICP ft ice cube and Scarface
Dupree is really cute
he sounds exactly like the type of person to do what he did
35:18 the last 6 minutes to this point sounds like a serious indictment of the toxic culture Vince encouraged back in those days
Chewing gum like that...come on mr producer!
11:50 "bodybuilding contest and raided in there" - was that what he said?
Apparently Benoit was a massive Pokemon and RPG fan 👀👀
Really??
@@amazingboy619 Yea heard Paul London and Brian Kendrick talking about on their shoot interview.
There's enough weird about the Situation to Make me not believe what the story we were told about it is. Sorry, but Just my opinion
Rene: _CHOMP CHEW CHEW SMACK MUNCH SLURP CRUNCH_
Damn man don't chew next to a microphone - basically turns it into a megaphone for some of us!
They talked about "Piggy James". I always thought Mickie was/is hot.
Did u know Daniel puder and could u do a show on him
-----21:39woooooah
Rene is right but it's the entire nature of their business. Seeing how Mick and Terry are "fine" I'm not buying headshots with chairs so much as making your signature the flying headbutt for what did Benoit in, afterall he wasn't a hardcore guy who was constantly taking chair shots. Harley Race could barely walk because of the flying headbutt and warned Benoit about it. However all those falls, sudden stops, etc can't be good for the brain just the entire nature of what they do. Makes you wonder how bad shoot fighting was in the late 1800s if this is the safer version of that or maybe it's just that wrestling got too over the top with moves that basically have to be gymnastic in nature to truly look damaging. Probably isn't helping that none of those guys are allowed to have much fat or they just have to be ungodly obese so the guys who do take all those falls have no cushioning.
To be honest I think they used Benoit as the excuse to end the edgy stuff. I realize now the more I consider things if AOL Time Warner wanted WWF they would have contacted VKM because that TNN deal would have been around the time AOL knew what they were going to do to WCW. Which means AOL really did kill WCW because wrestling had this stigma as trashy irredeemable entertainment at the time.
Judging from how no matter how much every other form of entertainment has caught up to the South Parks, Jerry Sprigners, WWF, and Jackass of the late 90s/early 00s it's obvious VKM is keeping any sort of effort to bring it back down. I don't know how we can have the Wire, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, etc and yet wrestling went back to Saturday morning crap since 2008 and got WORSE as it adds in woke stuff.
So i truly think VKM realizes deep down he didn't win so much as he killed his competition by turning into something most channels didn't want on air anymore at that time. Benoit is the excuse and you notice it was shortly after that and right before the network when they made all their revisionist history documentaries.
It fits a narrative like we had this great TV, that was still quite watchable even without the Rock and SCSA, and then that evil Benoit lost his marbles and killed his whole family and VKM just had to tone it down then. Yeah right, from hearing the AE guys it's obvious VKM was wanting to cool it down even then.
Why does that dude on the left keep saying that he's not going to mention any names but then he just seems to forget that he just said that because he then just goes on to say Randy Orton or someone's name anyway??
Do you speak Japanese
What is Rene chewing? Something for the jawline?
Eddie would kick Kevin Nash's ass? 🤣🤣🤣. I can just about accept someone thinking Benoit could hold his own with Nash ( I don't agree) but Eddie? Jaysus christ 🤣
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Nash is such a joke, i feel bad about his son but damn what a phony.
Renee I gotta ask you, in any WWE video games that contain Chris Benoit, I personally yank him out of the roster, never play him or go against him
After what he did I can't even look at him on a Video Game.
My friend says there's nothing wrong with picking him, and that it does mean you support him..
But I feel my ethic morals are too set in stone, so I pretend he's not even in the game.
Even if that technically was Chris before he snapped due to losing Eddie and the CTE, it's just a grim reminder. So I just try to avoid him as much as possible.
Plus I don't want my nephew asking me who Chris Benoit was. Explaining what happened to a seven year old would be cruel and terrify him...
Wow you're a real hero. Benoit became what the fans and Vince turned him into. If you watched weekly as he took shots to the head you contributed. But typical twat ignoring the part he played in creating a monster.
@@jonathandevereaux298 I didn't do anything.
Benoit refused to treat his concussions
Three people died in that house.
Only one had the choice.
@@jonathandevereaux298 I didn't even watch much of the ruthless aggression era I only watched the Attitude Era and heard about it on the news
I'm a WWF ECW wCw fan
Not mentioning no names…..Randy Orton 😂😂