EVERY TRAIN in BOSTON (kinda)
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2022
- This is like an "All Trains Lite" type of thing. Not really "ALL" trains. I didn't have time to take all the Green Line letters, nor did I take all the Silver Line (spoiler: silver line is a bus!). But I had a TON of FUN in Boston. I need to visit sometime when I have longer to explore!
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Not from Massachusetts what so ever but yes, Cambridge is a suburb of Boston (its own city) and not part of Boston proper. Rather it's part of the Greater Boston region. Think of it like how Jersey City is a suburb of NYC, both Cambridge and Jersey City have a river separating them from the main city, and both are connected to the main city by rapid transit
That fenced off building near the beginning of the video was the original entrance to Harvard station, which was converted into a newsstand when Harvard was relocated to its present location. Harvard was the old terminal for the Red Line before the Alewife extension opened in the 80s. And that tunnel you saw at Gov't Center was once a turnaround for northern streetcar routes and connected to the long-closed Adams Square stop, which closed in '63 when Scollay Square was re-developed into the eponymous Government Center. Oh, and Scollay is pronounced "scully."
The Silver Line is on the subway map because it is considered Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) the google definition is "BRT is a high-capacity bus-based transit system that delivers fast and efficient service that may include dedicated lanes, busways, traffic signal priority, off-board fare collection, elevated platforms and enhanced stations." The SL1, 2, and 3 lines run in a dedicated underground bus tunnel from South Station. That and the SL3 stretch through Chelsea on a dedicated ROW are really the only parts of the line that are true BRT IMO.
It also goes underground in some parts
Except that the people who make the standards for BRT have classified the Silver Line as "not BRT."
@@andrew_ray Oh, it’s definitely not actually BRT since only small portions of the line actually meet the BRT standard. I should’ve been clearer with the wording of the comment. The MBTA considers it BRT hence them putting it on their subway map.
I’m from Massachusetts. Hot take but I loosely associate all towns/cities with T stops as Boston. Emphasis on the loosely. Being established so long ago, Boston as we know it today has far extended its historic city limits spilling over into neighboring areas. Us locals can be very opinionated though so I would say everyone’s definition of “Boston” varies from person to person.
Same
There was an A branch on the green line from Park Street to Watertown, although it suffered through train traffic and accidents, so they replaced it with the route 57 bus from Kenmore to Watertown Yard. Few buses run early to other stops at early morning, so buses frequently run from 4:00am to 1:00am. There are over 100 bus routes. The commuter rail takes you somewhere farther from Boston.
The Silver Line's on the map because it's still considered "rapid" transit per the MBTA (even though it's not really rapid, and half the time it runs in mixed traffic). The SL1/2/3 do have their own ROW though complete with dual-mode buses
We never quite had social distancing stickers. Just the most annoying announcement ever about keeping masks on when riding public transit (Annoying as in they play it at least 3 times between any given stop, its louder than the other announcements, and they didn't use Frank [the voice of the automated announcements], but instead some other lady).
My bad, I should've been clearer on pronunciations in my last comment.
Bowdoin = Bow (bow and arrow) - din
Scollay = Scoll - eey
Get your subway maps out:
Yeah.... the Silver line is brand new, and is pretty much only on the maps because the T wanted to attract ridership and make those routes seem better than they really are. Some history: The SL4 and SL5 replace what used to be the Boston Elevated Railway, which rain from Nubian (The terminus of the SL4 & 5) to Sullivan Square (What is now on the orange line, however a much worse and less grand version of the old grand station (Think Penn Station before and after it got torn down). Residents on the SL4 and 5 lost their subway connection when the el closed down, and was replaced with service on the Southwest Corridor (Orange from Forest Hills to Back Bay), which in lots of areas isn't in close range of these neighborhoods that grew up around the line. To combat this, the T promised it would bring back "equal or better service", which isn't what ended up happening. The old elevated line used to be much much faster than the current silver line. Since it was added to the map, i've been wanting just SOMETHING designating it as a bus route, and not a subway line; theres literally nothing on there that calls it a bus.
The silver line actually does have a tunnel along its route, which is in the waterfront of the city. It uses it after South Station, and follows it through to World Trade Center (2 stops).
Another fun history fact: There once WAS an A branch. It merged off the B branch past Packards Corner, up to Watertown Square. It ran as a streetcar, with no dedicated lanes for it. It was replaced with buses (Getting some flashbacks to the Boston Elevated Railway), and is I believe the 53 bus now.
Yes, we have a rather huge bus system, which sprawls out across the whole city. I'll argue it has better coverage, redundancy, and travels farther than the NYC bus system, however yours has better ridership, more bus lanes, and more routes overall.
Some things to checkout if (when) you come back:
- Check out whatever phase of the green line extension opened during the time of your trip. The stops are really nice.
- Ride the Ashmont - Mattapan line (I'll argue you didn't ride all the colors because its more of a maroon, but depending on the signage it may be the same red color as the main red line); its a very peaceful ride through beautiful wooded areas, using vintage PCC cars!
- Ride the B and C branches (Exit the C at Cleveland Circle and walk to Chestnut Hill Ave, or vice versa), so you can see how wonky they are.
- You should totally also take a ride on the commuter rail. Theres tons of attractions within arms reach of these stations, and small towns in Massachusetts are really cool to checkout.
You missed a train: at the end of the Ashmont branch of the red line there is a special train called the Mattapan line, which is run with the same vintage streetcars it opened with 70 years ago. Also the commuter trains are also run by the MBTA so you can try that too.
And commuter rail
@@superdenisworld7694he said so?
That line is now retired
@@Samuel_00108 No...? The Mattapan line is still very much running. It might go down for prolonged maintenance every so often but that's the entire MBTA system these days.
@@jg-7780 it still runs in 2024
The Blue Line is my favorite line in Boston.
BRT: Banana Republic Transit. When a Green line branch is "temporarily suspended" like Charley, it never returns.
Thanks to the extravagant costs of "The Big Dig," the Silver Line ended up being a bus line instead of a rail line.
To answer your question regarding the "A Line," it used to exist until 1969 when it was discontinued and replaced by busses. It used to run on the B Line, but instead of turning left at Packard's Corner, it continued west to Watertown on Brighton Ave. For some reason, there were many traffic accidents involving A Line trolleys on Brighton Ave and N. Beacon St in the 60s. Consequently, the MBTA decided to replace the trolleys with busses to reduce traffic accidents and increase traffic flow efficiency.
Awesome to see you using the MBTA. I’ve ridden all the line colors, especially the orange, green and red. One of the few mass transit systems I’ve thoroughly enjoyed using.
The fact that you thought the SL was a train got me there 😆
Why is it on the map?
It's just like Translink the rapid bus is posted on the skytrain map.
The SL is kind of like the Rapid Bus or you can say the Rapid ride.
They most likely put it on the subway map because it's a rapid line with bus ways and express stops.
But I may be rong.
The silver line is advertised as “bus rapid transit” which is supposed to be faster and more like a rapid transit line than a normal bus, however they kinda half assed the execution. SL4 and SL5 just hace poorly enforced bus lanes, and while SL1, 2, and 3 have a proper bus tunnel with multiple stops starting from south station, once they exit the tunnel they’re back to being a normal bus (except the SL3 which has a short bus only road at the end)
Increase Sumner was the fifth Governor of Massachusetts, but he's better know for sitting on the Supreme Judicial Court, which ruled during his tenure that the Massachusetts Constitution outlawed slavery, making Massachusetts the first state to ban the practice.
... I miss Boston so much!! 😔 Thank you for uploading this!! 🙂
This video takes me back to my two-day visit in January 2020 for my birthday. Glad I squeezed it in after a day in Philadelphia in time before the lockdown.
This is so cool. Awesome one with the Blue Line!
The Silver Line was originally supposed to be a BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) line, which means a dedicated right-of-ways, fare controlled stations, direct connections to other lines, door-level platforms, etc.) This is why it is considered a "Line" on the subway map, and not just bus routes... That being said, after many budget cuts, only a small part of the line was actually developed as BRT, the remainder just became traditional bus routes. The section between South Station, Courthouse Station, and World Trade Center Station are considered BRT and have enclosed dedicated stations that connect directly to other lines and they all utilize an underground tunnel similar to a subway tunnel. The rest of the Silver Line is, for all intents and purposes, a standard bus route, with the exception of some dedicated bus lanes, and a completely separate right-of-way for the SL3 between Eastern Avenue and Chelsea.
Also, Bowdin is pronounced "bow" as in tie a bow / rhymes with dough and "din" as in diner, the evening meal. Not bow, like take a bow.
Boston is unique because each line has its own unique set of trains.
The first station looks A LOT lot LIKE van wyk pkwy station (after it goes on it’s own track not with the (F)), sutphin blvd & Jamaica ctr. It definitely has that feel!
Two things One I don’t care about your stupid subway And two we beat New York City in the underground subway race (In north america)
@@AlexThe5th1733 literally nobody cares you’re like 9 gtfo
@@AlexThe5th1733 Now MBTA is dealing with serious TRANSIT KARMA.
Yessir! Great video! Hope to see more videos like this soon!
I’m a Bostonian, And yes there are much much more bus lines. The silver line branch “SL1” that takes you to all the terminals of the airport, called Logan International Airport. The letters of the terminals are “A,B,C, And E.” The SL 1,2,3, and 4 goes underground, from South Station, and the SL5 goes to Downtown to Nubian Square (formerly called Dudley Square). South station also has connections to the Red Line, Commuter Rail (the commuter train service), and Amtrak trains.
Here are all the destinations of the Silver Line.
SL1: South Station to Logan Airport terminals A B C And E and back
SL2: From South Station to Drydock (aka Drydock Ave) and back
SL3: From South Station to Chelsea and back (Connections to the Newburyport/Rockport line Commuter train service)
SL4: From South Station to Nubian Square and back
SL5: From Downtown Crossing to Nubian Square and back (Downtown has connections to the Red, And orange lines and has a passage to Park Street Station for the Green Line.
Yes there used to be A line but it was remove because of traffic and accidents so they replaced with route. 57 bus
Wow this reminds me of back in 2014 my grandfather would take me on every New England train and subways and I’ve experienced all of these trains and stations hundreds of times
The Green Line branch A used to go to Watertown but was shut down decades ago.
Just to say, the operator says, "Next Station, [Insert Station name]. Doors open on the Left/Right. The destination is Braintree.
hey suprtoe loving the videos still! keep up the good work 💖
Here In Cleveland we have the 2 BRT lines known as the Cleveland State Line & Healthline on our Rapid Transit map along with the Red Line, Blue Line & Green Line trains. Most cities now include BRT with their trains even though BRT is buses.
You missed the Mattapan line of the Red Line that runs PCC cars dating to the 40s or 50s. It connects at Ashmont.
Dear GOgosuprtoe, there is only one R160 Q train from 96th Street to Coney Island departing 8:15AM at 96th Street. You can catch the R160 Q train to Coney Island at DeKalb Avenue at 8:44AM every weekday.
Nice little series! Hopefully one day you can make it out to Chicago. They have a huge rail system with lots of elevateds.
He has finally discovered the nightmare of State Street interchanges.
W/ interchanges like that you are walking under the city.
The green line sounds like the New York Subway and plus I’ve been to Boston to see colleges
Facts on remaining lines:
Silver:
- One of the two last systems to use dual mode buses
- The only BRT in America to run underground like a subway
- One of the 2 modes to go directly to the airport
Green:
- The A branch closed in 1969 and was replaced by bus routes 57 (local), 501, 502, 503, and 504 (express)
Blue:
- The only rapid transit in America to be able to changeover between caternaries and 3rd rails (similar to the MNRR New Haven Line, but it's a commuter rail)
- One of the 2 modes to serve the airport (via shuttle buses)
- No commuter rail connections (planned for the future)
- People take this train to go to the beach in the summer
- Does not connect to the Red Line, but the T is looking into it by closing Bowdin.
Red:
- During rush hour, seatless trains called Big Reds run the line.
NICE Bus also has seats on the bendy portion of the Articulated buses.
I was there last week! I was super confused about the sl5 too. Did the same thing as you😂
I thought it would be like the underground buses but apparently only certain silver lines run underground
The Silver line is on the map because it's half under the ground
LOL!! That's Microsoft's logo in that thumbnail XD
Few sections on the silver line is underground and The silver line 3 has its own set of bus way
The Green Line A branch was a streetcar line that went from downtown to Watertown which is today just the 57 bus but comes from Kenmore.
The first city to build a subway before NYC could.
i’m just so confused why the red line train stopped at harvard and didn’t continue to go to alewife
Boston and Cambridge are two separate cities divided between Charles River who both use the MBTA
You should come back to Boston. There are whole new train models for the Red, orange, and green lines. Check it out. And it’s Bowdoin (Say Bo din) not Bow doin.
The Boston content is amazing!
Thanks! I'll have to go back sometime.
@@SuprToe You might want to hold off a bit longer, the Orange Line (which is over 120 years old) will be shut down for 30 days to completely improve it
haha I recorded all the trains in boston too, and I though the silver line was a train, too haha lol
Silver line was promoted as a subway line and the mbta cheaped out and gave us a "Bus Rapid Transit" line
there was a green line a branch to watertown but it closed due to wear and tear and a lack of replacements which caused a shortage for the a branch
Nice video! Can you visit Toronto they have a great subway system!
Not gonna lie my favorite part was watching you figure out what the silver line is 😂
Great!
I live at that state mass I been the blue line and other except Community train and silver line so that voice in blue line is The train Voices I hear that voice slot I should know
The silver line is weird, its an underground bus system, so thats why its on the map
It's Bow den, like the college in Maine
Anyone else notice that the blue line train he got on was the same one he watched pass in the other direction?
(Or if 0760 is the model number)
the silver line has its own tunnels that it can us and the tunnels don’t allow other cars plus the silver line has its own stations. you can find them if you go all the way to south station.
hope Gogosuprtoe sees this
Bowdoin Pronunciation: Bo-Din
Also, I absolutely love how you did some videos of the MBTA because I go to Chestnut Hill, Boston, MA all the time to visit my grandparents and I love to ride this all the time when I’m there. Another system I recommend you riding is the WMATA in Washington D.C. because I think it’ll be quite an interesting system for you to explore. Warning though, all of the underground stations are the same design and are all extremely deep underground. There’s a Blue, Silver, Orange, Red, Yellow, and Green line. The Silver Line is not a Bus. It’s an actual subway line.
Nice
when you come back to Boston sometime, can you take a ride on the commuter rail.
I also like buses
The Best "Stop Requested!" Voice! 22:26
There is also the ashmont trolley
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@@456newportlines thanks xd
Cambridge is its own smaller city outside of Boston, FYI
"Aggggrrrgr" 1:36
You should do the WMATA next
I think Cambridge is a borough of Boston. Just like how Queens is to Manhattan or NYC
Maybe you should do more these videos often was really hoping you would come to Buffalo New York sometime and check out some of the trolleys that are in that city and I’ll tell you they are fantastic I’ll probably go to Chicago sometime but another video in the books next video you should probably give me a shout out
The silver line 1,2, and 3 are underground buses
20:52 that wasn't until he realized...
Also The Stop is Bowdin
Hi, next time u ride the red line from Harvard to Central. Look out the sides of the trains. It will show u the old Harvard T station build in the early 1900's
It’s the city of Cambridge a suburb of Boston
I'm from CT bellow Massachusetts
Actually the Silver Line does go in tunnels
Should come back the Orange Line have new trains
End of Boston week...
Returning to Manhattan...in two or three weeks?!
I just noticed his shoes are the same as all the lines he rode in this video.
Scolly Square The old name of The Stop Government Center.
You mean all MBTA subway lines, which excludes both the Green Linen (GR) and the Silver Line (SV). GR line is the light rail and the SV line is the bus
Next time take the red line to ashmont and take go to mattapan that portion is operated by 1940 pcc trolleys
Can you do the MBTA Purple line or Dc Metro
Great video. I don't know much about Boston because I've never been there. However, I do know about its Subway and its Commuter Rail network. I hope to visit one day so I can check out the Subway and the Commuter Rail.
I like how you did the bus and the train but I wish you can ride the Mattapan and commuter rali and real bus
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They open both sides of the B at 145
1:45 TAKE THE ESCALATOR
They ran out of money so it had to be a bus line and not a train line
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Fun fact: the green line did use to have the A but the MBTA removed it.
The A line used to seperate at Packards Corner from the B branch and go Northwest towards and into Watertown (Above Allston). They removed it in the 60s / 70s and ripped the track in the 90s. It used to be streetcar shared by normal traffic with no shoulder or separations like the other Green line branches have now. I think Bus 55 was meant to "temporarily" replace the A branch in the 60s and they just kept it going and got rid of the whole branch. You can still see a few feet of track where it separated from the B branch at Packards corner heading the opposite way the B branch goes now.
you need to take the silverline out of south station and the buses are in a tunnel
The next trip you please go to Washington DC
It so long too make my State in a vid
the bow in Bowdoin is pronounced like the hair accessory, not the front of a boat
Where’s the purple line aka commuter rail
Yes MBTA has distancing
skull-ee scollay
Bro what’s up with bro saying “Old White dead Guy”
This is how you pronounce Bowdoin Bow-din that's how you pronounce it