Having worn helmets from different eras of warfare, I like the Roman (Imperial Gallica) ones and the Modern (21st Century) ones the best. Having tried the 12th century (crusades) medieval helmets, you can't hear, you can't see very well and breathing is difficult, quite claustrophobic. The Roman helmet protects the vital parts of the head, the cross beam around the forehead is brilliant. Most importantly, I can see, hear and breathe easily.
While I mostly agree In the crusades the weapons were more deadly and shields smaller. Remember romans had a door for a shield so they were very protected.
Would be interesting to see you look at the various units of a faction in Rome Total War and go over what they got wrong, without taking to much time to do so out of your day. Ether that or going over one of the modded versions.
One of the best videos on RUclips i have seen going through detail and an impressive amount of information covered. You have got another sub looking forward to seeing more videos !
I think that the back neck cover was also sued to protect against wrapping blows, from an enemy reaching over the shield to strike the roman in the back. It's A very close quarters blow, but from what I can tell, if the Romans got so close to use a gladius sword, then an enemy could easily get close enough to reach over a shield with an axe, to hit the Romans' back of the head/neck.
The helmet of the imperial period was'nt fixed with just a leather band between the two cheekplates, but came from a fixingpoint of one side (one on the left and one on the right side, or just one fixingpoint in the middel of the neckplate) of the neckplate, swinging round behind the opposed side of the neck reaching a ring or hole of the samesided cheekplate where it was bound together under the chin with a second leather band coming from the other side of the cheekplate following the discribed path. The elaborate way of attachment was nescessary to keep the helmet from falling down or dislocate in an unfortunate way when hit from behind or askance. What I would like to know is, if we have evidence about any sort of bolstering inside those helmets (not only roman ones).
Did soldiers of the cohors praetoria wear the non-combat crest that you mentioned? Seeing as these soldiers were "tent guards" for generals, it would make sense that they would--since it's sort of ornate.
+Metatron so this Christmas I got a a gladius, a roman shield and helmet. all are replicas, but I got a question. the parts on my helmet that are supposed to protect the cheeks, is there supposed to be something to tie them together? because mine doesn't have some type of leather lace, so should it?
Expressionless YepA properly made helmet should have some wholes on the cheak plates. If there is no whole then you can still tie it up with a lace, I do it sometimes too with some of my helmets that don't have the whole and they still work fine.
QUESTION: whenni first looked at the Roman helmet, it reminded me of hockey equipment that is loosly attired upon a novice or rookie. Instantly, I imagined the cheek pieces needing to be heat molded to individual legioners. Like personal hockey protective gear. Imagine the cheeks molded uper roundly along uppercase bones and bottom round piece firm against lower mandible. Wouldnt that appear more appropriate and akin to a modern athletes firm professionally fitted equipment???
Question. Why do ancient Roman bas-reliefs and statues (Arch of Constantine, the Pretorian Guard, etc.) show different kind of helmets, the kind you see in old peplum movies but which have little in common with the actual historical helmets? Thank you.
When mentioning other videos you should add links to them in your description of this video. That way people can go and click on those. And I never even thought that they would wear the helmet on their chest when they weren't fighting. Would seem like it would get annoying after a while bouncing up and down all the time while marching. Unless it was really secure on the chest.
There's a small plume holder, and it can be locked in. However if you go to other helmet such as the Attic (parade helmets), they were already pre-fixed plumes that was basically horse hair that's in a locked ridge.
I know how the oplo (general had it) they were put on a for wich could be slide ontop and then it got tied with a loop simular to the one behind a painting to hang at the front and back of the helmet. But the centurion I only know it use a fork but how it was tied still is a mystery to me.
Was that eye brow ridge used to be put against the top of the shield when rains of missile weapon were showering down on them, as the sputum was resting on the ground? Just a thought.
Not being from a military or reenactment background: to me the fore&aft design is good for show but is really only visible to troops looking sideways along a rank, so taking your eye off the enemy in front; the ear-to-ear version more visible to your troops following your lead, also more visible while the wearer looks from side to side while checking combatant movements.
not bad...you should do one for all the classes of montefortino coolus and imperial Gallic and Italic..its cool how the Imperial helmets stood perfectly at your left side as your shield arm rested on top of it and as you grabbed the very tip of the brow to lift it on the shield instantly was above your head as you put on the helmet, Romans mean perfect mathematical military tactics bottom line
I had always been under the impression that the vertical (length-wise) crests were worn to distinguish Legates or Emperors... did they have a special color/design of crest?
I know that there must have been many types of Roman legionary helmets over the many centuries the Roman empire lasted. But most of the time when we see 'Roman" helmets we talk about the 'imperial' and/or 'Gallic' helmet. However, what about the type of helmets we saw in the HBO series 'Rome'? And how about the ones we see in 'Quo Vadis' (to mention just one Hollywood movie with such helmets)? They all seem to be from the same period as the 'imperial/Gallic' helmet, yet they all look very different from the helmet seen in this video. Just curious...
I'd say one reason is materials and budgets weren't limitless. Not for Rome, not for film production. If a Roman General needed to equip a Legion and had enough older model helmets that's what he used to save time and money. He'd buy new ones of the latest model only if he had to. Probably the only time a Legion would be founded with entirely new equipment was if there really was nothing in the warehouses to pass out. There's a reason soldiers fleeing battle would be punished harder if they dropped their gear to do so. And ofc, TV and movies have to think of the same thing. They could commision hundreds of new helmets, but if they have other models that might pass inspection they use them. Extras have cheaper armor replicas, sometimes someone wears something that wouldn't be in production yet in the year the action takes place. I a few cases it's totally off, like one of the guys in 13th Warrior wearing a 17/18th century steel chest plate!
Do you happen to know anything about the development of the popular image of a Roman helmet came about? I'm talking about the ridiculous, cartoonish "Hollywood" helmet like they used to wear in those god-awful "sword-and-sandal" type movies up until at least the mid 1980s. Think of Richard Burton as Mark Anthony in _Cleopatra_ Or Stephen Boyd in _The Fall of Rome._ It's what you'll find if you do a search for Roman Halloween costumes. There was always this thing on the forehead that looks like it's mounted on swivels like a visor, but it never moves and clearly couldn't pivot down over the face, which is a good thing for the wearer because it has no holes or slits for him to see out of. The closest I've ever seen to that depicted in actual Roman iconography is in a relief of some Praetorian guards. How did this thing come to be regarded as representative of what Romans actually wore?
id like to see you make a video of that one old roman helmet that looks like a corinthian helmet like how athena/minerva wears it but with added cheek plates.
was the brow bar on the helmet designed after fighting a certain for? i remember hearing it said it was developed after fighting the radians because they used the falx which could slice into the helmet. is this true?
MC Gibbs They would have likely had one for parade, but post Marian reforms, roman generals usually operated a command center behind the lines. They did that because they had a lot of coordinate at once. The one battle where I know Caesar did jump in, as far as I know all he had was a scutum.
So the vertical crest would be like a modern Army beret? You wouldn't wear it into battle, but it looked good in garrison. Also, most videos I've seen and things I've read show Roman soldiers on the march carrying their shields, not strapping them to their back. Can you link some resources about that? I'd love to see it
Ryan Zaybekian I will search for some academic evidence to back that up I need to see where I read it, however you need to consider that when you see them marching carring the shield is most likely when they march into battle, in which case they would wear the helmets too. But the long marches inside the territories of the Empire where a different thing, and it seams like they would even put the shield inside a cover to protect it from the rain.
Good video as always ! In case of full helmet maybe you can talk about the cavalry "masked" helmet like this one : images.history-revisited.com/l/alias3/AH6049-roman-cavalry-face-helmet-from-100-a-d-for-reenactors.jpg
I remember reading that the 6 centurions that led the centuriae in a cohors had different titles depending on seniority and that the most senior one would have commanded the cohors, but i can't really confirm that so take it with a grain of salt
I thougt the vertical crests where used by the high ranking officers and some elete units like the preatorian guard (as showcased is many mostly historically accurate video games as: rome total war and total war rome 2) is this correct or is this fantasy?
About the crests, vertical not used in battle, how about generals? did the use a helmet with a vertical crest in battle? I thought some roman generals would. That they would imitate the Greeks who came before them by having some vertical design on there helmets.
I don’t mean to sound silly but where did normal legionaries put their crests while out on campaign. I wouldn’t imagine anyone lugging around a piece of purely parade equipment while on campaign.
mmm now i realized the horizontal plume cant be bought in For Honor. you can only get it in ranked, so its a sort of crucible where you *earn* the right to the centurion plume.
This helmet looks like the lobster helmet i was was reading about. The back seems like a lobster tail and the protection for the cheeks seems shaped as a lobster claw. I also have seen an image of one lobster shaped helmet with big gills or wings too. So this design did come back during renaissance? Also how about making a video about the polish hussars? This may be interesting.
RyuFireheart Polish hussars sound very interesting, I will consider that topic for a video in the future, thank you for watching and commenting and for the interesting ideas you have ^^
Wouldn't the Horizontal crests on Centurions also make them more of a target for enemy soldiers. There are for example accounts of officers in modern wars removing articles of clothing that identify them as officers or NCO's to discourage enemy snipers. Would Roman Centurions do a similar sort of thing. Love the channel By the way
Cuzmonaut Suckmeov What about javelins, archers, or slingers. You know the snipers of the day. But I get what you mean, they saw the trade off between being a bigger target and being easily recognizable by their own troops and decided that it was worth it.
rkeep in mind that bows back in roman times wheren't as powerful or precise as the powerful long bows later on and a centurion would still be wearing quality armour and be standing further back.
@@windhelmguard5295 bows were actually more powerful than long bows in the imperial era, they were just designed for shorter range. There were even longbows in use by various empires and kingdoms including the roman.
Mi sono sempre chiesto perché lasciare l volto scoperto quindi un facile bersaglio quando sarebbe stato potuto coprire con una visiera magari removibile o anche fissa sul modello degli elmi del gladiatori. Penso che con una lorica segmentata (magari con manica corazzata) ed un elmo con visiera (che però lascia una buona visione ed inoltre protegge molto bene il collo, l ho provato io stesso una volta) come quello del murmillo il legionario sarebbe diventato praticamente invincibile.
+the Creative Assembly machinimas Perché è una soluzione di compromesso: il legionario deve avere un'ottima visuale per poter eseguire gli ordini e valutare le condizioni della battaglia. Inoltre - per esperienza diretta - colpire una persona in faccia è difficile, il movimento istintivo che facciamo quando qualcosa ci sta per colpire al volto è un'ottima protezione di suo. Inoltre possono sopperire con lo scutum. :) Quindi alla fine i Romani hanno deciso di rinunciare a parte della protezione sul volto per questioni di praticità e convenienza.
Stefano Padelli mah certo il movimento istintivo c è ma se punti con insistenza al viso prima o poi lo colpisci. Ed un affondo di una spada o lancia sul viso significa rimanere deturpati a vita nel migliore dei casi, morire nel peggiore. Non credo xhe una buona visiera di quelle con buchi ovunque impedisca molto la visuale. Nel medioevo i cavalieri preferivano sempre indossare una visiera in battaglia, nel combattimento individuale, quindi non credo che una buona visiera sia così limitante come pensiamo. L importante è che la zona degli occhi sia lasciata libera, ma per naso bocca e collo non c è problema se li copri. Inoltre lo scutum pur offrendo una buona protezione non può essere messo di fronte agli occhi perchè coprirebbe la visuale: il che vuol dire che gli occhi ed il viso sarà sempre esposto. Se sei in formazione contro una formazione avversaria ed hai una lancia ci vuole un attimo a vedere un tizio, non necessariamente quello davanti a te, con la testa scoperta e fargli un buon affondo in faccia...anche se l attacco non riesce a perforare le dure ossa frontali, vedersi il naso tagliato o lo zigomo perforato lo metterà subito ko.
+the Creative Assembly machinimas La tua argomentazione è interessante, ma mi permetto di dire che in realtà ci sono molte rappresentazioni nei manoscritti medievali che mostrano anche i cavalieri a volte preferire il combattimento a visiera alzata per quanto riguarda il corpo a corpo. La visiera abbassata dei cavalieri medievali era necessaria contro frecce e dardi ma opzionale in corpo a corpo e alcuni preferivano tenerla alzata per avere una migliore visuale e anche per maggiore ventilazione che non è un fattore da poco. I Romani sapevano creare le visiere chiuse, basta vedere i gladiatori, penso che se non le abbiano usate per i legionari significa che la formazione stretta con scutum era sufficiente per garantire la protezione del viso. Nella mia esperienza anche nell'uno contro uno è molto difficile colpire il volto di un legionario, ho chiesto al mio amico di colpirmi in faccia con una spada di gomma mentre ero equipaggiato da legionario e in tutto un intero combattimento non c'è riuscito una volta.
Metatron interessante, si vede che nella pratica è diverso da come lo immagino. Ad immaginarlo mi pare molto semplice colpire uno in faccia magari da sopra lo scutum. Verrebbe da dire: perchè nella scherma usano sempre protezioni al viso (e se guardi un torneo di scherma si colpiscono nel viso molto spesso anche Senza volerlo, per un discorso di flessibilità della spada non applicabile...il punto è che la velocità con cui un muscoloso guerriero allenato può maneggiare una lancia è probabilmente simile a quella di uno schermidore...ok lì non hanno scudi chiaramente ma come ho detto ci dovrà pur essere una parte del volto non coperta dallo scutum per lasciare la visuale libera). Inoltre tu hai detto di avere affrontaro una singola persona ma in una antica battaglia dovevano difendersi anche dai 3/4 tipi che non erano direttamente davanti ma avevano la tua faccia a portata di lancia (in una falange ellenistica si tratterebbe di 5 picche che ti colpiscono assieme in punti diversi, e dubito tu le possa controllare tutte e 5 assieme). Quindi sicuramente i romani hanno preferito la comodità di uno schermo aperto, come nella tradizione tardo greca , ma se vedi molti elmi ellenistici sono molto coprenti, non solo l obsoleto elmo corinzio ma anche quelli dei falangiti avevano paragnatidi che coprivano quasi tutto il volto e sicuramente ci sarà stato un motivo. Infine per l importanza della visiera basta vedere il grande elmo senza visiera removibile usato per tutto il xii e xiii secolo almeno, ed anche nel combattimento individuale come molte raffigurazioni mostrano
skipped Right past the coolus....didn't Clearly explain the difference between Imperial Gallic and Imperial Italic don't see a vid on the Coolus I would think that would be THE helmet of Caesar's legio....that and the Montefortino
Man, it is clear that you are passionate about history and ever more passionate about roman empire. Keep going, you re doing a great job
Having worn helmets from different eras of warfare, I like the Roman (Imperial Gallica) ones and the Modern (21st Century) ones the best. Having tried the 12th century (crusades) medieval helmets, you can't hear, you can't see very well and breathing is difficult, quite claustrophobic. The Roman helmet protects the vital parts of the head, the cross beam around the forehead is brilliant. Most importantly, I can see, hear and breathe easily.
While I mostly agree
In the crusades the weapons were more deadly and shields smaller.
Remember romans had a door for a shield so they were very protected.
Would be interesting to see you look at the various units of a faction in Rome Total War and go over what they got wrong, without taking to much time to do so out of your day.
Ether that or going over one of the modded versions.
Wish my history teachers had been anything like you, Metatron.
One of the best videos on RUclips i have seen going through detail and an impressive amount of information covered. You have got another sub looking forward to seeing more videos !
Do you think the Coolus hemlet is the coolest one?
+Rodrigo Ugarte (machiavellianFictionist) Ye, probably, or it was very hot and the name originally ment "Cool Us Romans" xD
No its laamus
If u read the oo as the English do is culus xd in spanish and italian is ass, ad yess im inmature
Dat second camera angle do
Jake Gurfinkel Ye I noticed during editing, next time I'll be more careful ;)
barbarian talk
I think that the back neck cover was also sued to protect against wrapping blows, from an enemy reaching over the shield to strike the roman in the back. It's A very close quarters blow, but from what I can tell, if the Romans got so close to use a gladius sword, then an enemy could easily get close enough to reach over a shield with an axe, to hit the Romans' back of the head/neck.
3 years later, no videos on about each helmet :(
I would say the Imperial Gallic helmet is one of the coolest looking designs of all time -- totally bad ass !!
I wish you'd do a segment on the iconic Attic helmets
The helmet of the imperial period was'nt fixed with just a leather band between the two cheekplates, but came from a fixingpoint of one side (one on the left and one on the right side, or just one fixingpoint in the middel of the neckplate) of the neckplate, swinging round behind the opposed side of the neck reaching a ring or hole of the samesided cheekplate where it was bound together under the chin with a second leather band coming from the other side of the cheekplate following the discribed path.
The elaborate way of attachment was nescessary to keep the helmet from falling down or dislocate in an unfortunate way when hit from behind or askance.
What I would like to know is, if we have evidence about any sort of bolstering inside those helmets (not only roman ones).
Did soldiers of the cohors praetoria wear the non-combat crest that you mentioned? Seeing as these soldiers were "tent guards" for generals, it would make sense that they would--since it's sort of ornate.
+ParkRangerStan yes they did, and I am quite sure they were the only one to wear the crista this way.
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Sorry, just got a feeling that this video is not complete without this comment xD
Nick Fedorov Thank you for completing it for me :D :D ;)
+Metatron so this Christmas I got a a gladius, a roman shield and helmet. all are replicas, but I got a question. the parts on my helmet that are supposed to protect the cheeks, is there supposed to be something to tie them together? because mine doesn't have some type of leather lace, so should it?
Expressionless YepA properly made helmet should have some wholes on the cheak plates. If there is no whole then you can still tie it up with a lace, I do it sometimes too with some of my helmets that don't have the whole and they still work fine.
Romanes, they go, the home. Who are Romanes?
QUESTION: whenni first looked at the Roman helmet, it reminded me of hockey equipment that is loosly attired upon a novice or rookie.
Instantly, I imagined the cheek pieces needing to be heat molded to individual legioners. Like personal hockey protective gear.
Imagine the cheeks molded uper roundly along uppercase bones and bottom round piece firm against lower mandible.
Wouldnt that appear more appropriate and akin to a modern athletes firm professionally fitted equipment???
The second camera angle, calm voice, and vest made me feel like I was watching a show on the history channel haha
Question. Why do ancient Roman bas-reliefs and statues (Arch of Constantine, the Pretorian Guard, etc.) show different kind of helmets, the kind you see in old peplum movies but which have little in common with the actual historical helmets? Thank you.
When mentioning other videos you should add links to them in your description of this video. That way people can go and click on those. And I never even thought that they would wear the helmet on their chest when they weren't fighting. Would seem like it would get annoying after a while bouncing up and down all the time while marching. Unless it was really secure on the chest.
Any idea in what period and the reasons for adding the cross guard to their helmets?
+432fuuzz Did they drop that out later or did it persist forever after that?
How was the crest fixed on top of the helmet for parades? I bet they kept snacks inside the helmet when leaving town.
+Dantick09 There were holes in the helmet where they could attack, is my understanding.
There's a small plume holder, and it can be locked in. However if you go to other helmet such as the Attic (parade helmets), they were already pre-fixed plumes that was basically horse hair that's in a locked ridge.
I know how the oplo (general had it) they were put on a for wich could be slide ontop and then it got tied with a loop simular to the one behind a painting to hang at the front and back of the helmet. But the centurion I only know it use a fork but how it was tied still is a mystery to me.
Do we know what sort of padding/ suspension system the roman helmets had?
What kind of Crests were worn by higher ranking officers, such as Tribunes and the General/Consul/Praetor?
Was that eye brow ridge used to be put against the top of the shield when rains of missile weapon were showering down on them, as the sputum was resting on the ground? Just a thought.
I thought the crest going from front to back was for Calvary officers as it was more aerodynamic and less likely to get snagged when riding.
i thought it was too
Not being from a military or reenactment background: to me the fore&aft design is good for show but is really only visible to troops looking sideways along a rank, so taking your eye off the enemy in front; the ear-to-ear version more visible to your troops following your lead, also more visible while the wearer looks from side to side while checking combatant movements.
Interesting thing about vertical crest - i thought that carvery and Praetorians used it:
Also I have request: please do video about Lorica Hamata
Do you plan to talk about Late Roman helmets like the Intercisa type and the Berkasovo type?
Bailey Young Ofcourse I will, eventually ^_^
Maybe you could do a segment on the iconic Roman attic helmets
not bad...you should do one for all the classes of montefortino coolus and imperial Gallic and Italic..its cool how the Imperial helmets stood perfectly at your left side as your shield arm rested on top of it and as you grabbed the very tip of the brow to lift it on the shield instantly was above your head as you put on the helmet, Romans mean perfect mathematical military tactics bottom line
Would have the Montifortino and coolus coexisted during the late republic 59bc to 36bc?
Thank you for another great video.
I had always been under the impression that the vertical (length-wise) crests were worn to distinguish Legates or Emperors... did they have a special color/design of crest?
I’ve always being confused because you do see them in battle worn by officers.
Would the Legionnaires have to buy their own crest, and if they did were they compulsory, or could they choose not to wear one? Thanks.
I'm pretty sure that Caesar's legions wore the montefortino helmets with a feather plume sticking out of the tube on top, and coolus helmets.
I know that there must have been many types of Roman legionary helmets over the many centuries the Roman empire lasted. But most of the time when we see 'Roman" helmets we talk about the 'imperial' and/or 'Gallic' helmet. However, what about the type of helmets we saw in the HBO series 'Rome'? And how about the ones we see in 'Quo Vadis' (to mention just one Hollywood movie with such helmets)? They all seem to be from the same period as the 'imperial/Gallic' helmet, yet they all look very different from the helmet seen in this video. Just curious...
I'd say one reason is materials and budgets weren't limitless. Not for Rome, not for film production.
If a Roman General needed to equip a Legion and had enough older model helmets that's what he used to save time and money. He'd buy new ones of the latest model only if he had to. Probably the only time a Legion would be founded with entirely new equipment was if there really was nothing in the warehouses to pass out. There's a reason soldiers fleeing battle would be punished harder if they dropped their gear to do so.
And ofc, TV and movies have to think of the same thing. They could commision hundreds of new helmets, but if they have other models that might pass inspection they use them. Extras have cheaper armor replicas, sometimes someone wears something that wouldn't be in production yet in the year the action takes place. I a few cases it's totally off, like one of the guys in 13th Warrior wearing a 17/18th century steel chest plate!
Me, with a helmet fetish watch this video today. I am stunned.
Hello, very interesting, but what about your historical sources ? (Books, authors, museum...?)
Thank you 👍
Do you happen to know anything about the development of the popular image of a Roman helmet came about? I'm talking about the ridiculous, cartoonish "Hollywood" helmet like they used to wear in those god-awful "sword-and-sandal" type movies up until at least the mid 1980s. Think of Richard Burton as Mark Anthony in _Cleopatra_ Or Stephen Boyd in _The Fall of Rome._ It's what you'll find if you do a search for Roman Halloween costumes. There was always this thing on the forehead that looks like it's mounted on swivels like a visor, but it never moves and clearly couldn't pivot down over the face, which is a good thing for the wearer because it has no holes or slits for him to see out of. The closest I've ever seen to that depicted in actual Roman iconography is in a relief of some Praetorian guards. How did this thing come to be regarded as representative of what Romans actually wore?
Do you have any videos on the Gauls and the Celtic people's north of Rome?
Good lecture .
id like to see you make a video of that one old roman helmet that looks like a corinthian helmet like how athena/minerva wears it but with added cheek plates.
was the brow bar on the helmet designed after fighting a certain for? i remember hearing it said it was developed after fighting the radians because they used the falx which could slice into the helmet. is this true?
Finally metertron gives a speech
Hector. Metatron. Were the helmets used in the movie "GLADIATOR" accurate for the period?
Super Class, do you have a direct email for questions seems like the last contact was 2015?
Would the legion commander (someone like Caesar) did they have a crest they would wear on their helmet?
MC Gibbs only Praetorians, tribunos, and legados were equiped with frontal crests.
MC Gibbs They would have likely had one for parade, but post Marian reforms, roman generals usually operated a command center behind the lines. They did that because they had a lot of coordinate at once.
The one battle where I know Caesar did jump in, as far as I know all he had was a scutum.
What do you know about the Spangenhelm helmet? Did the roman empire (not byzantine) ever use it?
Imperial Gallic helmet is the most badass helmet ever.
What is the best book out there about roman armour
The romans had a closed helmet in combat, if I am not mistaken. However it was for cavalery and not for troops in formation.
Can you do a series on the Roman Gealic wars? My mother's Italian and fathers scottish so you can see my interest.
Great vid and info!
So the vertical crest would be like a modern Army beret? You wouldn't wear it into battle, but it looked good in garrison. Also, most videos I've seen and things I've read show Roman soldiers on the march carrying their shields, not strapping them to their back. Can you link some resources about that? I'd love to see it
Ryan Zaybekian I will search for some academic evidence to back that up I need to see where I read it, however you need to consider that when you see them marching carring the shield is most likely when they march into battle, in which case they would wear the helmets too. But the long marches inside the territories of the Empire where a different thing, and it seams like they would even put the shield inside a cover to protect it from the rain.
Good video as always !
In case of full helmet maybe you can talk about the cavalry "masked" helmet like this one :
images.history-revisited.com/l/alias3/AH6049-roman-cavalry-face-helmet-from-100-a-d-for-reenactors.jpg
Biworden Interesting I will consider it ;)
Thank you for watching Biworden
Buen video, el casco que yo conozco del cine es el que tenía una cresta roja.
so the coolus and Montefortino was the type of helmets used in the punic wars
why do you say 'legionis' instead of 'legio'?
+Iacopo Iacoponi Legio is singular, legionis is plural ;)
wasn't "legiones" the plural ... :)
Iacopo Iacoponi You are righti, Legionis is Gen :)
oh i thought it maybe could be some form of late/early latin that you were using! thanks and keep up the good work
I remember reading that the 6 centurions that led the centuriae in a cohors had different titles depending on seniority and that the most senior one would have commanded the cohors, but i can't really confirm that so take it with a grain of salt
I thougt the vertical crests where used by the high ranking officers and some elete units like the preatorian guard (as showcased is many mostly historically accurate video games as: rome total war and total war rome 2) is this correct or is this fantasy?
+Aron Hobo Praetorian guards were more often in a 'parade mode' :)
Imagine legion with lorica muscultata, Manica, thracian helmets, sica, scutum, greaves, mail gloves, retiarius pouldrons.
About the crests, vertical not used in battle, how about generals? did the use a helmet with a vertical crest in battle? I thought some roman generals would. That they would imitate the Greeks who came before them by having some vertical design on there helmets.
I don’t mean to sound silly but where did normal legionaries put their crests while out on campaign. I wouldn’t imagine anyone lugging around a piece of purely parade equipment while on campaign.
Man! you have two cameras -- you can perfectly hide all montage cuts!!! why didn't you do it?
why vertical just legionary?
Do you know when Rom changed the Standarte from Eagle to Dragon? and why
Eisen Dieter Roman never ever used a dragon!!!
mmm now i realized the horizontal plume cant be bought in For Honor. you can only get it in ranked, so its a sort of crucible where you *earn* the right to the centurion plume.
Weren't the north-south crests used by pretorian cohorts?
Dxn.Mxssx Praetorians were the Emperors guard, there werent enough to form a cohort.
@@arturoroldan4839 there were 9 cohorts of praetorians when augustus created them.
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The corinthian helm is pretty much a full helm. And its far older then roman designs. The technology is quite old.
This helmet looks like the lobster helmet i was was reading about. The back seems like a lobster tail and the protection for the cheeks seems shaped as a lobster claw.
I also have seen an image of one lobster shaped helmet with big gills or wings too. So this design did come back during renaissance?
Also how about making a video about the polish hussars? This may be interesting.
RyuFireheart Polish hussars sound very interesting, I will consider that topic for a video in the future, thank you for watching and commenting and for the interesting ideas you have ^^
The lobster tail helmet in Europe was actually adopted from late 16th century Ottoman and China.
What about Late Roman Helmets?!
Wouldn't the Horizontal crests on Centurions also make them more of a target for enemy soldiers. There are for example accounts of officers in modern wars removing articles of clothing that identify them as officers or NCO's to discourage enemy snipers. Would Roman Centurions do a similar sort of thing.
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No snipers to Target Centurions to worry about, the risk of being sniped is outweighed but the boons of Recognition
Cuzmonaut Suckmeov What about javelins, archers, or slingers. You know the snipers of the day.
But I get what you mean, they saw the trade off between being a bigger target and being easily recognizable by their own troops and decided that it was worth it.
rkeep in mind that bows back in roman times wheren't as powerful or precise as the powerful long bows later on and a centurion would still be wearing quality armour and be standing further back.
@@windhelmguard5295 bows were actually more powerful than long bows in the imperial era, they were just designed for shorter range. There were even longbows in use by various empires and kingdoms including the roman.
Mi sono sempre chiesto perché lasciare l volto scoperto quindi un facile bersaglio quando sarebbe stato potuto coprire con una visiera magari removibile o anche fissa sul modello degli elmi del gladiatori. Penso che con una lorica segmentata (magari con manica corazzata) ed un elmo con visiera (che però lascia una buona visione ed inoltre protegge molto bene il collo, l ho provato io stesso una volta) come quello del murmillo il legionario sarebbe diventato praticamente invincibile.
+the Creative Assembly machinimas Perché è una soluzione di compromesso: il legionario deve avere un'ottima visuale per poter eseguire gli ordini e valutare le condizioni della battaglia. Inoltre - per esperienza diretta - colpire una persona in faccia è difficile, il movimento istintivo che facciamo quando qualcosa ci sta per colpire al volto è un'ottima protezione di suo. Inoltre possono sopperire con lo scutum. :)
Quindi alla fine i Romani hanno deciso di rinunciare a parte della protezione sul volto per questioni di praticità e convenienza.
Stefano Padelli mah certo il movimento istintivo c è ma se punti con insistenza al viso prima o poi lo colpisci. Ed un affondo di una spada o lancia sul viso significa rimanere deturpati a vita nel migliore dei casi, morire nel peggiore. Non credo xhe una buona visiera di quelle con buchi ovunque impedisca molto la visuale. Nel medioevo i cavalieri preferivano sempre indossare una visiera in battaglia, nel combattimento individuale, quindi non credo che una buona visiera sia così limitante come pensiamo. L importante è che la zona degli occhi sia lasciata libera, ma per naso bocca e collo non c è problema se li copri. Inoltre lo scutum pur offrendo una buona protezione non può essere messo di fronte agli occhi perchè coprirebbe la visuale: il che vuol dire che gli occhi ed il viso sarà sempre esposto.
Se sei in formazione contro una formazione avversaria ed hai una lancia ci vuole un attimo a vedere un tizio, non necessariamente quello davanti a te, con la testa scoperta e fargli un buon affondo in faccia...anche se l attacco non riesce a perforare le dure ossa frontali, vedersi il naso tagliato o lo zigomo perforato lo metterà subito ko.
+the Creative Assembly machinimas La tua argomentazione è interessante, ma mi permetto di dire che in realtà ci sono molte rappresentazioni nei manoscritti medievali che mostrano anche i cavalieri a volte preferire il combattimento a visiera alzata per quanto riguarda il corpo a corpo. La visiera abbassata dei cavalieri medievali era necessaria contro frecce e dardi ma opzionale in corpo a corpo e alcuni preferivano tenerla alzata per avere una migliore visuale e anche per maggiore ventilazione che non è un fattore da poco.
I Romani sapevano creare le visiere chiuse, basta vedere i gladiatori, penso che se non le abbiano usate per i legionari significa che la formazione stretta con scutum era sufficiente per garantire la protezione del viso.
Nella mia esperienza anche nell'uno contro uno è molto difficile colpire il volto di un legionario, ho chiesto al mio amico di colpirmi in faccia con una spada di gomma mentre ero equipaggiato da legionario e in tutto un intero combattimento non c'è riuscito una volta.
Metatron interessante, si vede che nella pratica è diverso da come lo immagino. Ad immaginarlo mi pare molto semplice colpire uno in faccia magari da sopra lo scutum. Verrebbe da dire: perchè nella scherma usano sempre protezioni al viso (e se guardi un torneo di scherma si colpiscono nel viso molto spesso anche Senza volerlo, per un discorso di flessibilità della spada non applicabile...il punto è che la velocità con cui un muscoloso guerriero allenato può maneggiare una lancia è probabilmente simile a quella di uno schermidore...ok lì non hanno scudi chiaramente ma come ho detto ci dovrà pur essere una parte del volto non coperta dallo scutum per lasciare la visuale libera). Inoltre tu hai detto di avere affrontaro una singola persona ma in una antica battaglia dovevano difendersi anche dai 3/4 tipi che non erano direttamente davanti ma avevano la tua faccia a portata di lancia (in una falange ellenistica si tratterebbe di 5 picche che ti colpiscono assieme in punti diversi, e dubito tu le possa controllare tutte e 5 assieme). Quindi sicuramente i romani hanno preferito la comodità di uno schermo aperto, come nella tradizione tardo greca , ma se vedi molti elmi ellenistici sono molto coprenti, non solo l obsoleto elmo corinzio ma anche quelli dei falangiti avevano paragnatidi che coprivano quasi tutto il volto e sicuramente ci sarà stato un motivo.
Infine per l importanza della visiera basta vedere il grande elmo senza visiera removibile usato per tutto il xii e xiii secolo almeno, ed anche nel combattimento individuale come molte raffigurazioni mostrano
That "etruscan" helmet is actually another style of celtic helmet.
epic, thanks
But were they red?
Nice dark vest and blue tie. But I feel a bit "under dressed"...
But why no nasal protection? The Greeks had it.
skipped Right past the coolus....didn't Clearly explain the difference between Imperial Gallic and Imperial Italic
don't see a vid on the Coolus
I would think that would be THE helmet of Caesar's legio....that and the Montefortino
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Uper helmet isnt of celtic design but noricum and they were not Celtic
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Erano tre i punti di aggancio dell'elmo ..un terzo dietro la nuca per fermarlo efficacemente in battaglia......METETRON !!!
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you forgot 390BC, lol
Rafe Shankar There are many things and dates to mention so ye xD I'll rememebr to mention next time if the topic allows me to ;)
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