What is your best interpretation of the Chosen One Prophecy? I believe that the Original Trilogy sets up the Solution, while the prequels exist to give us the problem. The Prophecy is a way to tell us what Anakin is doing.
My personal canon is that Anakin is the chosen one, (bringing balance to the force means having equal amount of dark siders and light siders) After Order 66, there aren't many Jedi left, so the Inquisitors can balance out the Jedi. Just talking about the OT, there is 2 Jedi and 2 sith, then Obi-Wan died and the Sith had the advantage of 2 to 1. Yoda trained Luke and died, again 2 to 1. When Vader turns, it goes from 2 to 1, and becomes 1 to 0. Luke was left as the only trained force users. I believe that Luke learned to use the dark side from seeing his father, being able to be a light sider and a dark sider
Hey lore star, I doubt you'll see this, but from my understanding the way a Jedi becomes a force ghost is through letting go of everything. I believe this is shown in the clone wars during the Yoda ark. Even qui gon jin wasn't a true force ghost as he was the first, and was only partially detached from everything. I don't know if he was already detached from everything before he died, and that allowed him to be the partial force ghost, or if he let go as he was dying. What do you think?
Ray is the chosen one. The story chronologically goes. Anakin is the chosen one. No wait Luke is the chosen one. Just kidding everybody we’re Disney so it’s actually this princess gray Jedi who’s the chosen one, also gray Jedi are non canon so enjoy that too.
Qui-Gon was even more wise than Yoda in many ways. A true boss. I also liked when his daughter got taken away by those thugs in Europe, and he went on a rampage.
Agreed. Anakin had succeeded in bringing balance to the force... it is almost insulting to now take it back and make Palpatine reappear. I would have enjoyed more an entirely new series happening in the distant (or not so distant would have been fine as well) future, where the established canon, which was perfect as it was, could not be touched... alas they had to DEW IT lol
George Lucas was planning on doing 3 more movies before he was forced to sell Star Wars. It was about how like was somewhat similar as in the last Jedi expect more compassionate and forgiving but was reluncant to train Rey
Anakin was the chosen one, always is even as Darth Vader. “The thing of it is, the prophecy was right. Anakin was the chosen one, and he does bring balance to the force” - George Lucas
yeah whoever this dude is is clueless the whole point of the jedi order is balance between light and dark they mention more times than youd think would be needed but this guys apparently needs to hear it again
Qui Gon and Maul: *fighting on Tatooine* Maul: *sees Anakin, the chosen one* “That’s a nice chosen one you got there. Would be a shame if someone were to kill you, preventing you from training him to balance his feelings, forever dooming him to fall to the dark side, nearly killing the love of his life, and becoming Sidious’s slave.” Qui Gon: “What?” Maul: “What?”
That's really so interesting. Cuz at the end of Clone wars season seven, he is literally attempting to fix the thing that he caused. And failing, of course.
I recently watched Return of the Jedi with my son, and was explaining this to him, but with somewhat different terms. It's about family. Jedi have no family - the closest thing is the order itself. Anakin did - a mother, a wife, a son and a daughter. Luke initially had estranged family, but discovered his father and his sister. He despaired and almost fell to the dark side (donning black and using force choke, violence and threats at Jabba's Palace) when he learned who his father was, but when he learned of his sister he gained more family to fight for, family uncorrupted by the dark side. Anakin fell to save his family and was redeemed to save his family. Family is the most powerful bond there is, even moreso than the Force, and breaks even the bonds of an apprentice enslaved to a master who rules the galaxy with the terrible power of the dark side.
Yup just wish the sequals was actually luke building a new jedi order with more freedom if you get what i mean, btw watching starwars with your kid is awesome as i did with my dad 🙏 i’m 19 and still watch them with him
Obi-Wan once stated: "It [the Force] binds the galaxy together." Yoda then states: "its energy surrounds us, binds us." It is then a paradox that the Jedi had become afraid of the notion of being attached or bound to things, which according to their own philosophy, was the natural state of things.
The jedi were just fearful of showing partiality to the thing they were attached to, which would be in conflict their goal of living in harmony with the force, which was in everything. You cannot treat everything with equal value if you have a favorite. You would always put that favorite above everything else, like how Anakin chose to turn his back on everything else for Padme which led to his fall.
I never understand why people still ask the question 'was Anakin the chosen one'. Clone Wars, Season 3, Mortis Arc. It's literally asked and answered in those three episodes. He was. It's canon.
I had to sift through so many ignorant comments above to finally see someone referencing the Mortis Arc. How the heck did Lore Star include footage of both clone wars and rebels without even mentioning the true purpose of the chosen one???
Honestly who ever wrote that arc did a great job. Lucus clearly completed the idea of the prophecy. But for diseny to milk star wars balance needed to never be achieved. This arc has anikan refuse his destiny and ultimately never being balance. The light and dark are still at war and each side constantly taking power then falling.
Agree with this so much. I've always found the Old Jedi Order to be misguided and even cult-like; Anakin might have been the catalyst of their demise, but they indirectly destroyed themselves. While good intentioned, they feared attachments so much they took kids from their parents, never to be heard from again, and put them in a bubble with others who also refused attachments. You could leave, but then you lose everything you were brought up to understand and believe in. Any relationships, although distant, would be gone. It was so extreme, they allowed Anakin's mother to die; a Padawan, as strong as Anakin, having dreams of his mother suffering, and he was ordered to ignore it. Had he been an obedient Padawan, he would have and then never would have discovered his mother had died. But instead, he tries to ignore it, but can't, but then arrives too late to save her. Had the Order done the right thing, they would have had open communications with parents and allowed Anakin to leave to help the rescue parties on Tatooine. She was gone a month; if he had arrived just a little sooner, she would have survived. That's some cold shit, Jedi Order. On the flip side, Luke's Jedi Order, at least in Legends, is the opposite of this. Luke has a huge support system of family and friends; he gets married, has a son, and other Jedi do the same, unaware--at least for a time--that the Old Order didn't allow such things. Good. Because if you have a strong support system and lose a wife, a mother, a child, a friend, you have others to support you. And Jedi, true Jedi, know their loved ones are just fine, being one with the Force. They do not fear attachments, making them closer to the light than the Old Order.
@@ergob3907 George Lucas is The Maker. Everything he says about Star Wars is canon and final. The ST is non-canon for merely contradicting The Maker with regards to Palpatine's fate.
I think the imbalance in the force was the fact that no one was really listening to what the force willed. The jedi order was full of corruption and were using the force as a political means and the sith are just trying to use the force to extract power. No one was doing what the force wanted which is why jedi exist, they are supposed to listen to the force and use their body as a means for it. Qui-gon knew that and stated it in the movies, and even went against the council.
@@sochioranmyaku Instead of listening to the will of the force they were using it as a political means, a military power basically to enforce their view of the world. Jedi are supposed to basically be monks, but instead they were acting the way generals in an army act or like a military police force. They would in fact actively ignore the will of the force to follow the councils strict codes. Like when Anakin needed Quigon to train him, they say no because they believe the fear in his past will lead him to the darkside, when really they could have just helped him understand his emotions and then he very likely wouldn't have gone to the dark side. Plus his mother wouldn't have died because he was having visions that his mom was in danger and quigon tells him to trust the visions, but obi-wan tells him to mind the present and basically just says their mission comes first. And if you listen to Anakin in the movies he doesn't say it once and obi-wans like "gimme 5 mins", he says he was having the visions for weeks or maybe months I cant remember. The jedi don't technically need to keep kids from their families or from marriage either, the order just is so paranoid about ending the long period of "no sith" by accidentally converting a jedi to the darkside that they are being far too cautious and overbearing. The jedi are also arrogant and think they are always right, like when they go and ask the archive lady where such and such planet is, and she says "if its not in our database then it simply does not exist" thats 1) arrogant because shes saying their knowledge of the galaxy is flawless and 2) shes saying their security system is so perfect that no one could ever alter the information in the archive, which we know is false because it was altered. Also i'm pretty sure the jedi hide sith artifacts under the jedi temple, or something, I remember that being like one of the last things that dooku found out about the jedi before he abandoned them for the reasons i listed and went over to the darkside. There's at least a few videos that talk about it: ruclips.net/video/UU1mLyUi3mg/видео.html If you want to watch Star Wars from my point of view then consider Qui-gon the model for what a jedi is supposed to be, and then see how everyone else differs, and note that at one point obi-wan tells him he would be sitting on the council if he followed the councils orders and Qui-gon tells him "you have much to learn". Which to me is him saying "don't listen to the council, listen to the force." Edit: I also just want to add that we have good evidence that your age doesn't matter, and that your parents being killed on a desert planet doesn't matter when determining a jedis polarization with the force because Luke's story perfectly mimics Anakins and Luke didn't fall to the Dark Side. Or Anakins mimics Lukes depending how you want to look at it. They both walked the same path, but Anakin was told by Yoda he couldn't be trained, and Luke was told by Yoda "who gives a shit, ill train you myself"
@Suda while they had good intentions, they were serving more as soldiers for the Galactic Senate than keepers of the peace. Moreover, the Galactic Republic was actually being ruled by a Sith Lord, and the Clone Wars was really just a very elaborately orchestrated and well-planned-out power coup by Palpatine, so the Jedi were actually unknowingly working for a Sith Lord and doing his bidding. It’s no wonder the galaxy was falling to the Dark. The Jedi were willingly doing the Sith’s work for them and didn’t even know it.
@@WarriorofSunlight Yeah, it's especially funny to watch the scene from ep. 2 where basically the whole Jedi council sits right in from of the Sith lord in his cabinet, and yet no one senses or realizes it - even the grand master Joda, who was shown to sense the deaths of his fellow jedis in another corner of the galaxy. I believe this scene was shot this way intentionally, just to show us how blind and arrogant jedis has become.
Because the sequel trilogy was based with a different prophecy? The chosen one prophecy had been fulfilled and it was following the prophecy of the force diad
So Rex got Anakins attachment because Rex said that he'd care more his brothers and feelings instead of orders also he said That Anakin taught him that
I think you nailed it honestly. The Jedi had become detached and stagnant, as one often does when there is no competition. I think the constant showing of Yoda and Mace in Palpatines office, without a hint of knowing he's the Master Sith, is crucial to the details that the Jedi have absolutely lost their way. Ultimately, it appears that neither the Jedi or the Sith are absolutely correct. Obi-Wan concludes Anakin is lost because only a Sith deals in absolutes, but fails to see that the Jedi also deal in absolutes. So Anakin was brought upon the Jedi as a chance to correct themselves. They instead failed him and paid the ultimate price. Anakin in turn suffered many decades for the wraith he bestowed upon them, toiling away under true evil until again love floods Anakins heart for Luke. He was not even aware of it since he's never been taught how to love properly, his dark ways convinces him he is only attached to Luke to further his goals of absolute power. In the end, Anakin finally commits the greatest act of love, self sacrifice. He sacrifices everything for Luke, his power, his delusions and his life. He gives everything for his son and shows Luke the truth; balance. The Jedi believe you should give up all worldly attachments and emotion, the Sith you should give up everything for yourself. Neither provide a choice, Balance is choice. Choice to be selfless and still love someone selfishly. Choice to make yourself happy and still serve the greater good. To love individually, but still give yourself to the greater good.
In a way the sequels break Palpatine's legacy and the Jedi are implied to be rebuilt by both Rey and the deceased Jedi that helped at Exegol. The lost technique of life transfer by the Jedi was lost because they sealed themselves off from the galaxy and it's ironic that it's what Anakin sought from the beginning
3rd trilogy ruined was terrible but 9 was good reintroducing palpatine opens up alot of new theorys, twists turns and plot holes i thinks cool tbh i think the 9 films was a careful plan from palpatine mapped out before he even killed plagues n the star wars universe walked right into all his plans except no one gave him opportunity to force possess a younger body altho he tried this mutiple times
@@plutonium120 I respect that opinion I reckon he would of done a better job then Disney lols I think because the first 6 was so good it would be hard to finish no matter who directs it.
Here's the catch: the prophecy never actually stated that The Chosen One would destroy the Sith. The Chosen One was to "bring balance to the Force by Destroying those who pervert its very nature..." the Jedi took this to mean the Sith, but in truth it meant both the Jedi and the Sith. But I do love your perspective.
That doesn't gel with me. Soley because I don't see George Lucas writing like that. He's a very staunch anti-war man, so why would he use destruction or violence as the solution? Redemption is the key in my book, not just of Anakin but of the Jedi Order as a whole, and yes that includes the Sith.
@@Tahkaullus01 That's exactly how it was written, and if you think about it George Lucas absolutely would write it just like that. Think about how the Jedi Order was during the Clone Wars. They were more corrupt than even the Sith, to the point that they led the Clone Army and tried to assassinate the Legitimate Leader of the Republic. Granted their reason was because he was a powerful Sith Lord, but it didn't change the fact that it was a religious issue. Killing is not what the Jedi do, and they were trying to change the very nature of the Force, by persuading it towards the light, instead of keeping balance. Not even Yoda learned this lesson until after he died.
“Love is true balance in the force”. Spot on, and what I was hoping the sequel trilogy would tackle. This is exactly the lesson that would have given us a reason to watch a third trilogy. Instead they just recycled the overused ideas of good and evil. Wish they had people like you working at Disney .
@@readingbetweentheframes It seems he finds an obsession with her, then attatchment, then starts to act to save her(which could represent him struggling with turning good), then seems to fall in love with her while also turning to the light side. Could argue it goes hand in hand.
This is so true having love and balance as a main theme would’ve definitely added complexity to the narrative. Maybe down the line they’ll give us a new trilogy pushing the main story forwards using better story telling techniques.
Rey is not the chosen one. That Palpatine is just a clone who wasn’t even at full power or actually alive until he did the life suck or whatever. Anakin kills the real Palpatine.
It is implied that he is a clone? I mean yeah, they show the smoke clones, but he never says he is a clone. And asked about how he survived, he only says "the dark side is a pathway to abilities some consider to be unnatural". That worked in episode 3, but here there is no reason behind the sentence, and I can't see the connection to him being a clone :v
@@ergob3907 actually theres rumor that the "Veil of the force" will be used to retcon the story. so its fixable, but there will be a large scar on the series if its true.
Anakin is the Chosen one, he brought balance to the force by destroying both extrimist cults that are the Jedi and Sith. He paved the way for the future, the future being his son and all other Jedi to come. Shame Disney didn't tell this story in the Sequels and brought back the Sith and Jedi.
Completely agree. Arguably the saddest thing about the sequels (which is saying a lot lol) is that they relegated Anakin to a marginal role... in the end he didn't accomplish anything really
I like the idea that he restored the Jedi who believed in love and attachments. The Sith believed Love led them back to the light, and the Jedi believed it led them to Darkness. Maybe that's a form of balance.
Balance is accepting the line of light and dark passes through the heart of all men. Denying this fact blinds you to the truth of the force and yourself.
@@englishlady9797 yep that's what the ancient Jedi believed. They had a Moon for those who went too far into the Light side, and another one for those who went too far into the Dark side. They studied both and keep themselves balanced, whereas Jedi and Sith dogmatized one side and went all in against the other one, creating and endless fight that wans't necessary in the first place.
I also feel that Anakin also kept his attachment to Padme, and seeing luke hurting brought back his desire to save Padme, now in the figure of his son being attacked by the emperor. Actually the new Vader comics d shows that vader tried several times to bring padme back, and while the emperor quelled that feeling temporarily, it never died, in the end Anakin kept alive in the recess of Vader but as his undying attachment to Padme
But ultimately both are true...with killing all Jedi, their wrong and unbalanced ways of holding back emotion and getting used as war machines diminished. With destroying the Sith theirs of seeing true love as a weakness and using such love just to manipulate others and also of ruling the galaxy bringing fear to it, died too ... Anakin was part of both and in the End found, that both ways weren't what he actually wanted, both were wrong and he ultimately - with some detours - destroyed them and balanced their existence (in numbers) out: No actual Jedi and no actual Sith anymore, that could pass on their wrong teachings. I also love the characters of Ezra and Kanan from Rebels in that context they *SPOILERS AHEAD* both sacrifice their lives, saving their loved ones, no matter what, after realizing that this is the only way and giving in to the force while doing so. And most importantly: They did love, they did form attachments, so the ways of the Jedi were already lost there and their sacrifice, in turn, helped set up many things in motion, so that the ways of the sith could be destroyed soon after - balancing the force as a whole.
@@Droucko totally wrong. Lucas has confirmed that the Sith and the dark side are corruption in the force, disrupting the harmony that is the light. Light is balance, dark is corruption.
I also think that Anakin bringing “balance” to the force required his turn to the dark side as he basically spent half his life as a Jedi and half as a Sith. He basically destroyed both the Jedi and Sith which in sense brought balance as the whole idea that light and dark must be separate is what needed to be destroyed in order to bring true balance. Both the Jedi and Sith had major flaws in their ways in that they strayed too far into the extremes of the spectrum
Obi wan brother zoned Anakin, when Anakin want him to be his father figure in episode II, he got the wrong father figure in Palpatine because of Obi Wan negligence as a father figure
But you also gotta look at Episode 1 and how Obi-wan was very hesitant to take on his Masters philosophies. Time and again Obi questioned his master, noting that it wasnt the will of the force or that it wouldnt be the jedi way. Qui-gon was trying to show and teach Obi wan the same compassion and love. And hoping that one day he would understand. And watching two people he cared about die in front of his eyes, it was clear to Kenobi that having attachments was wrong. In his eyes. Hence why he tried to train Luke that way. But if we look at how Luke trains in legends and Disney, he utilizes the dark and light sides of the force. He uses balance. He still uses compassion. He still loves. Making the new Jedi loving and caring. Fulfilling the prophecy even further
Obia was like 10 years older than Anakin, its really not enough of a difference for him to feel or be a father figure. It should have been someone 20 or 30 years older than Anakin
Not the way I see it. I believe the jedi code of dicipline, democracy, harmony etc. has tyrannical forces against the dark side of passion, strength, power etc. and vise versa. And you need a balance, which is why Ray in the last scene finds balance and gets a yellow light saber
@@simonaxdorph3742 do the colors really have anything to do with it though? also isnt yellow not even a in-between for red and blue? (that's purple but you know)
@@randomthings8732 Yellow was in the canon always just something jedi sentinels used, they had balance in combat and schooery so yes you are right, it has nothing to do with light and dark balance. Of course Disney had no idea about the canon and Rey basically just has a yellow one because nobody else in the movies had one, otherwise they would have known about Luke's reformed jedi order which was way less dogmatic and had members like Kyle katarn who used dark side force techniques while still being on the light side.
I love the way you articulate this. This follows the legends interpretation of where Luke gets his enormous power from. He repeatedly states throughout the novels, that his connection to the ones he loves, strengthens his connection to the living Force. Without that unconditional love, his connection to the Force would also be conditional, and therefore limited. This is why he viewed both the Jedi and Sith teachings as being incomplete, in their respective understanding of the Force, and how to get the most out of it. This is also why the sequel trilogy fundamentally breaks cannon. They reinterpret Luke's character, as if he did not actually understand this principle...which completely undermines his entire character, and therefore undermines the entire outcome of the last 6 movies. It basically retcons the entire reason why he was successful in redeeming Vader...and the impact that had on the Force itself. He never would have raised his lightsaber against one of his students, because he would have already known that they were never beyond redemption. Period. Full stop. Especially if that student was his own nephew. This is so out of touch with Luke's character, that to portray him this way, was basically to invalidate everything that motivated him to make the choices he made, in the original trilogy. They may as well have called the sequels a "reimagining"...not a continuation. As far as the sequels are concerned, no balance was actually achieved in episode 6. They just decided to jump forward to a new set of characters running through the same set of requirements, despite the fact that those requirements were already met...and offered no good explanations as to why all of the original characters had completely changed their core identities. As far as I'm concerned...the sequels are not cannon. They violate so much about what the original story was trying to express, that to consider them true, means the rest of the story has to be false.
In the Obi-wan Kenobi series, it’s his attachment to Luke and Leia that give him the power to take on Vader. So sad he doesn’t realize that going in to the original series.
@@braillynn4903 I think in a way despite the reception of the series as a whole that was a good lesson to show or teach Jedi that attachments aren't inherently evil and can be a strength or resolve that could allow them to reach new heights a way to draw strength from attachments like darkside users but in a positive contrast.
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Palpatine was cloned in one of the EU books, if that's what you mean. So were a bunch of other characters for that matter.
Truth be told it was never prophesied that the chosen one would destroy either, it said “the chosen one would bring ‘balance’ to the force” which inadvertently meant destroying the sith because the dark side is like a cancer to the force; what happens when you corrupt and bend the force to your will
I like how you said "Love leads the sith to the light, and the jedi to the dark" being the perfect balance. It makes sense tbh, and really does add a deeper meaning!
I hope most everyone understood the genius of this video. Makes so many of the Anakin Padme scenes make sense, sparks a whole new version of star wars had qui gon lived...wow
Ashoka was Anakin's first success as the chosen one; a Jedi taught by his influence to care and form attachments. She represents the results of Anakin's actions, and what the Jedi could have been if they'd listened to Anakin.
@@LoreStar I actually also believe that what happened with her on the Mortis Arc was a foreshadowing of Anakin's own redemption. Most other Jedi would have killed their Padawan at the first *HINT* she had fallen to the Dark Side, or was even being influenced by it, but Anakin refused to give up on Ahsoka and in the end was his faith in her and unconditional love for her that bought her back.
Obi Wan cared, but he was too much of a strict adherent to the Jedi Code, no matter what. I mean there was nothing inherently wrong with his loyalty, but when the Jedi code forced him to chose between obedience to it, or saving the ones he loved most, we know what he chose. He put loyalty to the system and for the institution above love. Love for his friends, his brother and the woman he loved. I do believe that in the end, he learned the true meaning of love, but it took him a long time too.
I totally agree. Ahsoka is one of my favourite parts of the clone wars and I really feel that the animated show did Anakin so much justice. It made me really attached to both characters in a way the prequels didnt quite fully achieve. After watching clone wars I love the prequels and really feel for anakin. Would love to see Ahsoka get some screen time but only if done properly. With care and love from fans of star wars like Filoni not disney execs that prioritize money and producing merch over a great story with lovable characters. Thats my rant, love Ahsoka and Anakin. Also clone wars and the mandolorian are great so far in my opinion .
Yes I particularly loved Ahsoka in the mandalorian specifically because she killed the guards. It shows how she is the perfect jedi because she’s a peacekeeper who’s a servant of the light but knows that killing bad people is an important part to peace keeping effectively. If she tried to save every single life she would have failed and not kept the peace at all. Her ideal and method is much more realistic and the sort of things jedi should do
I always thought the chosen one was actually anakin's blood line but then ray comes out of nowhere saying hipity hopity your name is now my property ruined that
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I think in many ways he represents the problems of the jedi at the time: he was very close to the chancellor seeing him as a mentor ( the jedi were being controlled by the chancellor and influenced by the Senate ) he was used as a soldier not a "keeper of peace". He also represents the fear the jedi had of the dark side. Instead of embracing Anakin who was connected to the light and the dark side of the force, they feared him because of his fear for the ones he loved. They said fear lead to the dark side and clouds one's judgment while letting it cloud their own. He is essentially "bringing balance to the force" by uncovering and unearthing the issues within the jedi themselves.
I like this interpretation of the chosen one. This theory is sound and makes the most sense to me. I like it because balance in the force is not controlling the force but existing in the force and not imposing your will on the force. Again let the force flow through you and guide your actions and your heart. Love conquers all is a great message and allows hope to ring eternal. Very very Star Wars if you ask me.
I agree with it too. The problem with the Jedi (well one of many) is they put rigid adherence to the rules above genuine compassion and unconditional love. I for one, and many people would probably believe that helping your friend and saving your loved one when they needed you most is more important than those rules. Its not selfish, its not of the Dark Side, to do anything you can to help those you love and to prevent a great injustice from happening to them. That's why Anakin is my favourite character in spite of everything and the terrible mistakes that he made. (I do believe he was genuinely remorseful and repentant for his actions, not just at the end, but throughout his years as Vader, he just could never express it) Not Obi-Wan, although he's a great guy. Obi Wan was caring, but when it really came to it, he would always put the Jedi Code first even if it meant sacrificing the ones he loved. He could have saved Satine by killing Maul, but he refused, believing it to be a path to the Dark Side, and I honestly believe being made to kill his brother Anakin on Mustafar destroyed him. He chose differently when Maul found him on Tattooine and threatened Luke.
Can we just appreciate the fact that he literally told us to feel free to dislike the video as constructive criticism? Mad respect dude. That deserves a thumbs up from me. Also, I think that the Jedi misunderstood what balance meant. They assumed that it was the absence of the Sith. The issue is that one cannot exist without light and dark. To be always good is not human nature but to be always bad is not it either. I believe that the chosen one prophecy was to embrace the entirety of the force instead of the dogmatic view of the Jedi and Sith. It is to embrace the entirety of life and to gain wisdom through all aspects of the force. The Jedi should be the people's guide and not just through the teachings of Ashla but also through Bogan.
what? in the hell? a 'dislike' is not constructive criticism at all? let's say: respect for openly allowing others to dislike or disagree. being open to constructive criticism is a whole other level.
Your insights are epic!! Until watching this video, I thought there was way too much emphasis placed on the forbidden romance between Anakin and Padme. I will now forever appreciate these scenes.
Your interpretation of the Chosen One prophecy makes sense, and it's a beautiful one. Loved it! After taking all things into consideration, this looks like the best one as Star Wars has always been about these things. (Excuse me, I'm short of words. I might edit this later. That's how much I loved this interpretation)
Thou George did intend luke to be the chosen one in his original script but he wanted the chosen one to fall and thought wait I have vader who is his father so maybe I should change him to be the chosen one and that’s how it started
@@daemianmatthews2062 why does it matter who kills who in the end because this whole balance thing is never fleshed out the darkside will always exist and there will always be evil people who use it, why does killing the emperor change anything, unless he knows something we don’t or he has a power only the sith know about and once he is dead no one will know how to use said ability, that would make sense
this is the one big reason why i love starwars, all these fallacies all these faults and all this confusion... the flaws on both sides, the flaws in the soldiers, the civilians, the leaders, polititians etc. this is what makes this universe so deep and why we to this day still have great stories with moral conundrums that can often be learned from and applied to the real world. such as the successful interpretation of the moral nuance of good, evil and the gray area in between.
Imagine if the sequels had explored finding a way forward without the restrictions of the prequel-era order instead of retreading the initial worlduilding and perpetuating the same cycles of betrayal all over again
Yeah, the sequels were just repeating Star Wars without understanding Star Wars. This is why I love Filoni. He truly understands what Star Wars was about, in such a deep and thoughtful way that even ourselves, the fans as a whole, were only able to, instinctively. And he uses his understanding of the whole saga to further the vision behind it all.
There’s so much I can say about this one topic. I’m gonna have to not include the Sequels during my ramblings though. Prophecies are tricky as hell. Someone had a vision (or more than one) that a man was going to bring balance to the Force. They didn’t specify when this was going to happen though. They might have given more details about how it was going to happen, but I doubt we’ll ever know. The Prophecy didn’t happen for a really, really long time though. So throughout the ages, it gets reworded and misinterpreted whenever someone needs to update the scriptures. At some point, both sides (Jedi and Sith) didn’t realize just how wrong they were with what the Prophecy actually meant. I theorize that Darth Bane had the semi-right idea though (can’t remember if he actually knew or believed the Prophecy though), at least when it came to power and what it would take to defeat the Jedi once and for all. I think he even knew that it wouldn’t be in his lifetime (could be projecting here, it’s been a long time since I read up on Bane). He basically obliterated the current Sith Lords for his plan to work. He knew knowledge and secrecy was the key to ruining the Jedi. The Rule of Two played an important role to defeating the Jedi; Two Sith Lords having the full knowledge of the dark side and Sith alchemy + magic. Even if a Force sensitive dark side user was born, it was unlikely they’d gain this knowledge without the aid of a Sith Lord, at least until the Apprentice was prepared to kill their Master. The Jedi eventually failed because they kept racking up the rules in their Order. They became hypocrites and didn’t really allow themselves to be part of the Galaxy and its culture. Sure you could leave the Order without the Jedi feeling betrayed, but their rules were made to be _absolute_ (and we all know how that works out, lol). The Jedi doubted practically anything that they viewed as “temptation to the dark side” as a strength, like strong emotions, fear, caring attachments, and etc. Therefore, the Sith became extremists for the dark side, and the Jedi eventually became extremists for the light side. When both sides did this, there was no balance, because the Force is meant to be balanced within the individual. It’s why the Je’daii (Legends) prayed to both Ashla and Bogan. Enter Anakin Skywalker. He was born out of pure Force when Darth Plagueis and Palpatine meditated to manipulate the Force into a living soul. The Force retaliated though, and move this soul far away from them. The Force placed this soul in Shmi Skywalker because she was a good person; she may not have been Force Sensitive, but she was the light that was needed to bear something created out of the dark. (That was my interpretation when I read the Plagueis novel) Basically, Anakin was created from the dark side, but born and partially raised from the light. He was intended to be the Balance from the get-go by the Force itself. For me, this is why Qui Gon had to die. He was the perfect trainer for Anakin, a Grey Jedi; one who was (almost) balanced enough to be that perfect Force user. Dual of the Fates was symbolic for me (after diving into the Legends and learning), because it was 3 types of Force users battling essentially to be the one who trained Anakin... - Maul represented the dark - Obi Wan represented the light - Qui Gon represented both Had Qui Gon lived, the Prophecy wouldn’t have happened because both sides needed to be fighting over Anakin. Without Anakin’s struggles, he wouldn’t have been the Chosen One, or least been able to fulfill this need for the Force’s Balance within each individual. We can even see Anakin fulfilling parts of the Prophecy before the war was over. Notably with; - Padme, his love and reason to continue on the Jedi path. - Obi Wan, someone he considered a brother and Obi Wan did care for Anakin in the same way, thus wavering the Force within Obi Wan. - Ashoka Tano, his Padawan, who he trained to be balanced with the Force without really realizing it. - Palpatine, a mentor figure he wanted to trust and gave him knowledge that maybe the Jedi had become less than what they used to be. Once the war was over, and Palpatine won, part of the Prophecy was completed; the Jedi were nearly extinct, giving light side users who survived a chance to become balanced on their own. Meanwhile, Palpatine and Darth Vader “evened” out with the dark side and turning some Jedi into dark side Inquisitors. Then came the Fall of the Empire. Leia “played her part” by being balanced without knowing she was a Force Sensitive individual; she was a force to be reckoned with and used her skills (sometimes lying and killing) for the good cause. And we have Luke, of course. A late bloomer with the Force, but was able to question Obi Wan and Yoda’s teachings without losing the path to balance, and without disrespecting them. The faith Luke had to bring his father Anakin back from the dark was a key component to aid Vader’s decision and end the Sith “lineage”. Anakin was the Chosen One. He brought back the balance to the Force, mostly to allow a new age of people to learn from the mistakes made in the past and become better societies to the best of their ability. Yah, some people are going to fight that, but it’s what Anakin chose to do that allows this freedom of choice. It allows people to fight for their rights and not allow another form of dictatorship. Which the Jedi had become in a way... and the Sith were always (lol). The Sequels sort of diminished this, but I believe that’s because “some people” just didn’t get what Lucas and Co had created. They were too focused that the fans didn’t really like the Prequels, that they didn’t realize the fans loved the world building and eventually saw what Lucas attempted to do with the Prequels. They just didn’t really listen and tried to make their own thing with Star Wars. If that makes sense. End of rambling. Prolly got some stuff wrong and definitely made some grammar errors (autocorrect hates me too).
Dragon ClawZ - didn’t get a notice you replied. Can’t really condense cause I that was the best I could do without writing an actual essay, with sources. If you’ve read some Legends though, that’s where I got most of my ramblings from. - Tython and the Je’daii - Sith race (not the lords) - Nomi Sunrider - Revan and Malak, + Bastilla Shan - Grey Jedi - Darth Bane, Rule of Two - Jedi Order timeline, and how they keep adding rules as time goes on - Darth Plagueis novel (definitely recommend!) And just the general idea of Prophecies and how they “work”. The Chosen One was a prophecy that was seen a long ass time ago, and throughout the ages people tend to misinterpret the words; this kind of prophecy is vague and doesn’t add details. It’s why Obi Wan considers Luke to the CO and not Anakin, but it’s not, it’s always been Anakin because the history of the SW Legends universe can show us why.
Going to try and correct some things, but a great post. First of all, it is stated somewhere that the prophecy also included the fact, that chosen one would be born of the force so that, together with the balance of the force part is what the jedi were going off of to my understanding. Now I don't believe, or do i see evidence to the fact that anyone forgot how the prophecy was meant, or that the jedi shifted in their understanding of it over time. It's more the fact, that they didn't understand what balance in the force meant in the first place (as explained in the video). Second, in the non-canon book darth plagueis it is unfortunately not properly stated what exactly that shift in the force was that sidious and plagueis caused, but i didn't see any evidence towards the fact, that they tried to create life at that point (the killing and resurrecting of that former-wannabe-Sith-Byss was later in the book) or if they did, it wasn't necessarily them specifically creating anakin and him being "misplaced" by the force, but rather the force deciding that they had gone too far and thus created anakin itself to retaliate. But this is a minor point and could be up for debate. Lastly, I think the entire theme works surprisingly well within the sequels (although i am not sure how much of that is intended) and it only really gets a little shaky in episode 9 with sidious not actually being dead, which somewhat cheapened anakins struggle (maybe pointing towards the fact, that the end of the sith order wasn't part of "balance" all along, but rather a means to the end of having a balanced force user, aka Luke Skywalker. Although that doesn't make much sense as that would kind of go against the idea of the dark side being a perversion of the force, albeit ever present, that needs to be controled, not left unchecked (there is a great video on that by . aka the guy with the long video about kreia). Maybe ol' palps was in such a terrible state that it actually counted as "under control"). The part where luke had a very short moment of weakness when he tried to kill kylo (mirroring the moment in episode 6 when he was just about to kill vader) and then proceeds to be depressed about it is actually a beautiful representation of the idea that the dark side is ever present and isn't simply "overcome" with one good deed, but needs to be fought and struggled with right until your final breath. Anyway, sorry for the long response, hope i didn't take too much time out of your day :)
I always saw balance in the force needing to take place on a personal level. Balance in the force can only be achieved when force users find balance in themselves. Both light and darkness blind but through balance you can see clearly. People mention "The One's" but I think they are the example of the force at it's extremes. In my interpretation balance is only achieved when force users are "grey Jedi", which the majority of great force users were in one way or another.
Wow this is so good and fits so perfectly. Both the sith and the jedi had gone to two different extremes. As the sith before them the jedi too needed to fall because they had gone too far the other way. Anakin and Luke in the end though we may call them jedi had truly become something else. Not an extreme but a balance to learn how to deal with the good of life AND the bad hardships. Great video man thanks for this. :)
@Arthur Pilgram I'm indifferent to who's the "real" chosen one, but I recently watched an interview with Dave Filoni and he was saying that Luke redeemed Anakin in the end; he redeemed "the chosen one", and as the video was saying, perhaps Luke learning to love his father-- his family member-- is what a true jedi would do, and it's what Qui-gon would've taught Anakin.
I think it's Anakin who was the chosen one. It still took Anakin to overthrow the emperor to change and end the war even though he tried many times. It was through his loins that luke even existed. Luke only empowered him to sacrifice everything to become the light again. Through love for the one he lost. He saw his pain through luke.
So.... When everyone says ”bringing balance to the force” and such. Its not that equaling the numbers and size of both sides. Its about the Jedi finding the path to being able to care, since They had for a long time become too political and acted as emotionless sentinals that were only there to fufill a duty. That makes more sence and is a lot more satisfying from what i understood from the video.
I think maybe it's more like a Dali Lama, panchen Lama situation, anakin is for sure the chosen one but he could never have don'e what he needed to do without Luke so in a big way he's equally as important, like how the guy who scores the winning goal wouldnt of been able to do it without his teammate setting it up for him with the pass
As a fan of the Skywalker Saga, I completely agree with your interpretations. To me, it shows the shadow of Vader is vanquished by the light of Anakin's legacy, allowing a path to let others follow in his footsteps. By choosing the good over the evil, any person in the galaxy may be a Skywalker. Not by blood, but through action and something stronger: the Force. Just let it in. This is the Skywalker way.
@@jeffreyjohnsonakashadowolf5562 the problem with prophecy, is everyone reads it in context of the Jedi. The issue is bigger than the Jedi. The force does not serve the Jedi. The Jedi and other Force users, even dark side users tap into the force. The Sith seek to dominate it. The sith are themselves an imbalance. Jedi decimation was the price that was paid to bring balance.
@@jeffreyjohnsonakashadowolf5562 The thing is, there are 2 ways to balance the force, one is to kill all the sith and jedi, and the other is to have the same amount of jedi and sith. The second would wage infinite wars, making the first the only option if the galaxy wants peace.
After watching the last season of the clone wars, I think there was a crucial moment where Anakin could've fulfilled the prophecy much sooner, and Ahsoka and Maul were really instrumental to this.. If Anakin hadn't been assigned to Palpatine / if Palpatine hadn't devised the Coruscant siege to distract Anakin and Obi-Wan, both of them could've been on Mandalor together in the moment to meet Ahsoka and Maul and learn of Palpatine's plot to corrupt Anakin, they would've heard Maul's account of his vision that Anakin was the chosen one, and together there's a good chance they all could have defeated Palpatine, albeit with probable casualties/deaths. Even in the trailer for the final season, the trailer builds to a climax where Maul says "every moment has led to this," or something like that. I think both him and Ahsoka, alongside Anakin, had the potential to bring balance to the force in a way that was outside/beyond both jedi and sith ideologies.. which is where both Maul and Ahsoka were headed anyway. I think Palpatine knew this and therefore kept Anakin closer to him to prevent this outcome- he was a mastermind strategist, after all. And it worked, but ultimately there were counterbalancing elements to his influence on Anakin-- obviously Ahsoka and later Luke were key players in bringing him around and helping guide him to fulfill the prophecy.
Man, this is so good, totally agree with everything, adds a whole other layer of philosophy to the Skywalker saga and also makes me feel very sorry for Anakin, he really had no choice and he ended up suffering the most out of everyone, truly a tragic hero rather than a full on villain. Great video! P.S. I love how you didn't even mention the sequels as if they do not exist - for me they aren't cannon and contribute in absolutely no way to the storyline of the original saga.
Nicely put! I’ve heard the old arguments for either Anakin or Luke being the Chosen one. You took it a step further: The symmetry of Luke only being able to save his father due to his attachment, and Anakin’s attachment to his son that allowed him to redeem himself by saving his son. Together they balanced the force in this universe.
It’s about love. Love for family, love for a person, love for yourself. Love beings balance. Anakin had love for his children and seeing them on the brink of death showed he had love for his son and daughter and he redeemed himself and became balanced in the end. Like Revan, Annie was from both light and dark to heavy to one side and you will be unbalanced. Vader was able to vanquish evil and show the Jedi that love is a path to redemption. Now I can also say that because it’s so hard to control love, as seen through Annie’s life, the Jedi are in a way right to not have Jedi be attached but a Jedi would never be balanced. That’s were the Jedi failed. If the Jedi were to teach a balance of love then a Jedi or anyone could be in balance and that’s were you’d see the prophecy fulfilled. You’re right about Qui-gon, I believe he would have taught Annie how to balance his attachments. My question is was Yoda a balanced Jedi? I would think so as he seemed to be able to address attachments for his peers and his younglings. But could he have been unbalanced and too far leaning to the light and didn’t want Annie or any of the Jedi to love?
The real balance of the force and the message is for fathers to love their sons and for sons to honor their fathers. If we had more fathers willing to sacrifice their lives and powers for their sons we wouldnt be having so many issues like we have right now and if sons honored their parents it would all come full circle
This is my single most favorite Star Wars lore video ever, so many of the ideas I was right on the edge of being able to articulate are finally fleshed out so cleanly.
Your interpretation, aided by Filoni's wisdom, feels like the perfect answer to me. Well done! It also means the arc was completed with 6, and makes me hate 7, 8!!!!, and 9! even more
I feel like the entire skywalker family are the chosen ones, Luke and Anakin, for without one, the other would be lost, and this goes back to the idea of the importance of family. At the end of the day we’re all the chosen one, this is our story. That’s my interpretation
Technically speaking Anakin doesn't have a father . He born because of midichilorians. He is not a normal mortal being. He is a celestial ( father , son , daughter " they are born from force" ) So that makes Anakin a celestial too. If he didn't crippled and reach his full potential . He is probably became unstoppable . And there is phrase in the chosen one prophecy about being born fatherless . Luke just a child of celestial being . And have most high potential among all force sensitives because of his father. And even his midichilorians account doesn't come any near Anakin's . And don't forget even parents both strong force sensitives there is possibility to child born to be normal . Example ; Revan and Ballista having non sensitivite child . Revan is the most strong force sensitive in his age and Ballista one of the strong force sensitives . And Anakin's wife (Padme) is a non sensitivite too . But both of the children exceptionally very strong in the force . Because of Anakin is unique . He is the chosen one . Everything Luke can achieve happened because of his father . Even as a Darth Vader he hold back . And eventually save his son from Palpatine. All this years he didn't want to challenge palpatine for power because he didn't really care for power ( for hım it just a tool to project his loved ones , so there is no reason anymore to want to power ) . " he even have change to kill palpatine before but he didn't because there is nothing for hım except empire " But when he learn he has a son he want empire . Not to himself , he wants his son to be emperor . His armor full of error . So he can always fell to pain . Palpatine want it happen like that . So he knows he is dying with the armor . And he just want his son well beign .even influence of dark side . Poor Anakin he is really victim of both light siders and dark siders. Especially light siders try to control hım , don't let him to fulfill his destiny , never trust hım , try to use hım , not keep good eye on him and hold hım back . they are even let him taken by palpatine a politician at that time . Where is the logic in that ? Why you are sending hım influence of palpatine ? Force want revulotion for light side and destruction of dark side Because they are try influence midichilorians and try to create sith'ari .( darth Plaguesis and darth sidious ) So force rebels to this And creates Anakin( chosen one ). But when there is no come back for jedi ( they are do many bad things at the clone wars area, they are don't even knowledge their own rules ( they are go to war as a peace keepers having super secret prison for force sensitives etc.) So force destroy both of them . And luke's order is born . Perfectly balanced and no mistakes as old jedi order .
This is amazing! This should be discussed way more, it makes so much sense and brings such a beautiful story arch to the saga I would really love to hear if people like Lucas or Filoni had this type of theory in mind while creating/expanding the Star Wars universe Thank you for this!
dude. this video blew my mind. I have such a whole new appreciation for the prequels and now even the originals. I 100% agree that balance in love and attachment is really the message here and that the jedi lost their way in obstaining from love. awesome video
The sequels should have been about palpatines clones and his clones apprentices or whatever against Luke’s new jedi order that believed in attachment and love and were balanced and stuff I think that would have been really cool
I agree. They should have adapted Andersons Jedi Academy trilogy. When there was talk of the sequels, it was my hope that it would begin with Luke already having established a new order of Jedi. Their center being Yavin 4 and coming together to talk of deeds brave and bold (in a sort of futuristic version of Boorman's Excalibur) Luke and Mara, leading the way and THEIR son Ben possibly falling to the dark side or even being the redeemer of Han and Leia's twins who run off to be brash heroes only to be sucked into the dark side through their travels and establishing an order they thought would be welcoming to the one luke created but find out not so much....i don't know. I had such high expectations than the crap kk put out. I was completed disappointed and to add insult, to completely wipe away 40 years of, what I call true canon was, to me blasphemous.
"You were the chosen one! It was said you you would destroy the Sith not join them! Bring balance to the force not leave it in darkness!" - Obi Wan Kenobi
@@BogusLion No man The Prequels and just a much of a masterpiece as the Original trilogy, Clone Wars, and the Expanded Universe. And yes the Prequels are canon along with midichlorians and the Chosen One prophecy.
@@BogusLion I completely understand why you're not a fan of the prequels, but I think you should at least watch this video because it explains why they're essential to canon. ruclips.net/video/ePDiQ1uTrWI/видео.html
@@ahsoka5216 nope, I've already watched the prequels and several other nonsense on youtube, but you should watch redelettermedia reviews of the prequels, it's clear why they suck.
One thing that is overlooked is that when a Jedi dies they strengthen the light side of the force the skywalker's are extremely strong in the force by Vader dieing and being redeemed by the light side of the force means he also strengthened it so it is possible the force was balanced in a literal sense
Underrated comment. There is something special that happens literally when the chosen one (anakin) is redeemed and dies. If he died when not redeemed (Vader) balance would have been lost.
The Jedi, with their damnable sense of over-caution, would tell you love is something to avoid. Thankfully, anyone who's even partially alive knows that's not true. Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled... but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love... that's what they should teach you to beware. But love, itself, will save you... not condemn you. Ahhhh, but listen to me go on as if I had all the answers. What do I know of love anymore? I'm just a lonely old man who's not even a Jedi. -JOLEE BINDO
Thank you! Love it: compassionate, emotional, positive and underlining and pointing out the drama of what happened throughout ALL movies. Even if it is not what George Lucas had intended, I'm sure he's pleased what it all turned into and how it still inspires people to think and to think beyond their respective comfort zones... Keep up the good work!!
Full text of the Chosen One prophecy (Source: Master & Apprentice): "When the kyber that is not kyber shines forth, the time of prophecy will be at hand. One will ascend to the highest of the Jedi despite the foreboding of those who would serve with him. Only through sacrifice of many Jedi will the Order cleanse the sin done to the nameless. The danger of the past is not past, but sleeps in an egg. When the eggs cracks, it will threaten the galaxy entire. When the Force itself sickens, past and future must split and combine. A Chosen One shall come, born of no father, and through him will ultimate balance in the Force be restored. He who learns to conquer death will through his greatest student live again." I didn't include the passage about Leia because it's relevant to the Sequel Era, not the Chosen One.
@@englishlady9797 Prophecy 1: “She who will be born to darkness will give birth to darkness.” Likely about Leia giving birth to Kylo Ren, or in Legends terms, Jacen Solo.
@@jagnestormskull3178 Oh makes sense. Thanks. I wonder who the "nameless" are in the 3rd line. Maybe the helpless and marginalized. The Jedi weren't big on helping them towards the end.
You're thought about "love is the ultimate form of balance in the force." is spot on, but there is more to it. Especially when you have Rey and Kylo join in a dyad. That, to me was the fulfillment of the balance. When two force users are joined together to create something more powerful.
If you read Drew Kapyshyns "Revan" it was very possible Revan was the precursor chosen one, he finds balance in the force fighting a Sith Lord who literally used rituals to feed off the living force consuming planets of their living force. He was able to stand against that immense dark power simply using the force in its purest form by focusing on the living force utilizing what he knew from his time as a sith and jedi. As a "grey" jedi rather than one of the light or dark. Due to it being a "new" power he had discovered in that fight he lost and ended up imprisoned. So yes, Revans love for his companions lead him to find this truth that Anakin and Luke discovered in their fight against palpatine. another character is Mace Windu. Arguably one of the strongest duelist along side obi-wan was the fact that Mace was previously a grey jedi/sith knew the dark side intimately and used that against dark siders in fights channeling the dark side in combat, basically proving force users are strongest when they use the best of what both sides have to offer: Emotions give you strength, but serenity brings you balance. Using both truely does bring you closer to your full potential and balance of the force.
Didn't Darth Plagues make up the whole thing himself? Didn't he create the clones and use the midichlorians to create the life of Anakin in his mother? Also, I'm wondering if Anakin would have killed the Tuskin Raiders if Qui Gon was still alive...would his mother have been saved? But I love your POV on this. It was an awesome analysis!
Plaguis and palpatine did something which caused the force to react which produced anakin, but they did not directly create anakin, it’s theorised that they tried to form a force dyad together which is why the force responded by creating anakin as a dyad in the sith and two as powerful as them would’ve no doubt spelt the the coming of a great calamity
He was also only indirectly responsible for the creation of the clones. He manipulated sifo dyas, who had been quite critical of the jedi council and a friend of Hego Damask (the public persona of plagueis) into creating them and also gave him the money to do so. At least that is the way events go down in the non-canon book "darth plagueis".
he brought balance to the force twice by getting rid of the blinding light and the overwhelming darkness and he spent half his life as a jedi and half as sith at the end he was a grey jedi in his final moments.
Especially from the perspective of the old republic Jedi, "balance" to them would be light side extremism. The Jedi do need to learn that being someone devoid of emotion isn't the answer. So many of them fell to the dark side and their solution was to keep doing the same thing over and over again. The definition of insanity. Vrook has a quote where he says that he's just gonna double down on the Jedi teachings. They say they want to help people but they have no love for their fellow man. They're not allowed to give a damn about them, and instead they teach their students to do it because it's what's expected. In the new canon it seems like Luke didn't learn anything though. PS: I could have gotten you that Jolee Bindo footage without the background music. Next time just ask.
Grim 'alkun lads got news for ya... quantum physicists have proven consciousness is a singularity... that means our brains do not produce their own consciousness but connect to it like wifi... that means we’ve all literally been the same person this entire time. There is no death. We live each other’s lives infinitely. This is because the electro magnetic activity in our heads that are responsible for our senses, memory, emotions and all other expressions we ascribe as reality, create a physical dreamlike state. The “force” is real and our false perception of ourselves (ego) is the dark side... our alien friends 👽👈 know this and humanity(majority) doesn’t. So the aliens can’t be public until we figure this out, NASA is fully aware of the extra terrestrial presence on earth but their lips are sealed 🤐 by higher ups. “Humanoid” is a 3D morphology that all life follows, so the ETs look like us a lot... some of them literally look human. Welcome to the space age and the matrix 😎🥳✌️
I’d like to hear the view of a Buddhist Master with regards to the balance between attachment and compassion. Detachment frees one from desire, ultimately liberating one to be compassionate (showing loving kindness) to all sentient beings. Personal attachment to individuals is typically due to a desire that narrows one’s view of the world. The Jedi Order during the time of Anakin & Luke failed to live up to the Buddhist ‘code.’ Anything they gained through nonattachment to individuals they lost through their attachment to destroying the Sith. (Just in case some readers might dismiss Buddhism, as an unfamiliar religion, Christianity also adopts a compassionate approach: Matthew 5.43-44 NIV - “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,” The Jedi were more like Knight Templars during the Crusades.) The point I’d like to make is simply that the Star Wars story is not a good basis for comparing the merits of detachment versus personal attachments.
Yeah I never really equate a Star Wars too much with religion. Although the whole virgin birth of Anakin, and the balance of the force parts do have religious origins I believe. Anyway, as a Christian I have to admit there are some similarities to Buddhism. Although a lot of people that call themselves Christians forget the whole love others part. Good intentions, but have gone astray, yup the Jedi sound like a lot of Christians I know. lol
I agree with you about the Knights Templar part. If you look at the downfall of the Knights Templar there are certainly parallels. They had become far politicized, wealthy and corrupt. They'd also totally lost sight of their purpose, which was to defend Pilgrims in the Holy Land.I mean once the Crusades ended, they basically had no purpose except as bankers. Which they were never meant to be.
@@englishlady9797 The Knight Templars maintained their integrity. Unfortunately they accumulated a great deal of wealth by founding a successful international banking system. The French Monarch was aware of their wealth, so King Philip IV successfully deposed their order in France and had the
I think this video has a valid point. Especially considering that there is a lot of information out there that Lucas had drafts for episodes 7-9, in which he planned to explore "the prophecy" deeper, eventually revealing that the whole Skywalkers family actually was "the chosen one" - including Leia, who was destined to rebuild and lead the Republic.
What is your best interpretation of the Chosen One Prophecy?
I believe that the Original Trilogy sets up the Solution, while the prequels exist to give us the problem. The Prophecy is a way to tell us what Anakin is doing.
My personal canon is that Anakin is the chosen one, (bringing balance to the force means having equal amount of dark siders and light siders)
After Order 66, there aren't many Jedi left, so the Inquisitors can balance out the Jedi.
Just talking about the OT, there is 2 Jedi and 2 sith, then Obi-Wan died and the Sith had the advantage of 2 to 1. Yoda trained Luke and died, again 2 to 1. When Vader turns, it goes from 2 to 1, and becomes 1 to 0. Luke was left as the only trained force users. I believe that Luke learned to use the dark side from seeing his father, being able to be a light sider and a dark sider
Chosen One no
@Chosen One It's ironic that the power to keep people from dying is a light side ability.
Hey lore star, I doubt you'll see this, but from my understanding the way a Jedi becomes a force ghost is through letting go of everything. I believe this is shown in the clone wars during the Yoda ark. Even qui gon jin wasn't a true force ghost as he was the first, and was only partially detached from everything. I don't know if he was already detached from everything before he died, and that allowed him to be the partial force ghost, or if he let go as he was dying. What do you think?
Ray is the chosen one. The story chronologically goes. Anakin is the chosen one. No wait Luke is the chosen one. Just kidding everybody we’re Disney so it’s actually this princess gray Jedi who’s the chosen one, also gray Jedi are non canon so enjoy that too.
Qui-Gon was even more wise than Yoda in many ways. A true boss.
I also liked when his daughter got taken away by those thugs in Europe, and he went on a rampage.
He even trained Batman at one time 😄
He even fought a Grey Wolf during his early trainning as a Padawan
He even stopped 2 terrorists and a plane from crashing at the same time
Yoda could never 😂😂
and he released the kraken!!
this is exactly why i think there was absolutely no need for the sequel trilogy, if anything we should have seen a completely new saga in the universe
Agreed. Anakin had succeeded in bringing balance to the force... it is almost insulting to now take it back and make Palpatine reappear. I would have enjoyed more an entirely new series happening in the distant (or not so distant would have been fine as well) future, where the established canon, which was perfect as it was, could not be touched... alas they had to DEW IT lol
I would've liked an old republic saga
*slams both hands on table* Thank you!
George Lucas was planning on doing 3 more movies before he was forced to sell Star Wars. It was about how like was somewhat similar as in the last Jedi expect more compassionate and forgiving but was reluncant to train Rey
The highest of 5 my friend. For me personally the skywalker saga ended with Jedi the last 3 what Di$ney done were some shitty spin offs.
Anakin was the chosen one, always is even as Darth Vader. “The thing of it is, the prophecy was right. Anakin was the chosen one, and he does bring balance to the force” - George Lucas
When did he say that
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Yes, he had to decide and killed Palpatine instead watching him killing Luke. After Disney nothing make sense of course
yeah whoever this dude is is clueless the whole point of the jedi order is balance between light and dark they mention more times than youd think would be needed but this guys apparently needs to hear it again
Qui Gon and Maul: *fighting on Tatooine*
Maul: *sees Anakin, the chosen one* “That’s a nice chosen one you got there. Would be a shame if someone were to kill you, preventing you from training him to balance his feelings, forever dooming him to fall to the dark side, nearly killing the love of his life, and becoming Sidious’s slave.”
Qui Gon: “What?”
Maul: “What?”
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That's really so interesting. Cuz at the end of Clone wars season seven, he is literally attempting to fix the thing that he caused. And failing, of course.
Darth maul was a pawn, it just took being cut in half for him to realize it
Maul: “Just give him to me. You know it’s gonna end up fcked”
Qui Gon: “K Fine. Anakin, this is your new master now.”
BRUH NO LOL
We know one thing for sure: the chosen one is 100% not Rey
Fr why would anyone even think that mane? i really dislike the latest sw movies straight up trash sad to say
Skrrt Cocaine the sequels aren’t even bad
Devon Jordan They aren’t bad...they’re a good insult to Star Wars, Lucas and the fans.
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But then i saw its 69 likes . So i didnt :).
REZA Tarkibi nice
I recently watched Return of the Jedi with my son, and was explaining this to him, but with somewhat different terms. It's about family. Jedi have no family - the closest thing is the order itself. Anakin did - a mother, a wife, a son and a daughter. Luke initially had estranged family, but discovered his father and his sister. He despaired and almost fell to the dark side (donning black and using force choke, violence and threats at Jabba's Palace) when he learned who his father was, but when he learned of his sister he gained more family to fight for, family uncorrupted by the dark side. Anakin fell to save his family and was redeemed to save his family. Family is the most powerful bond there is, even moreso than the Force, and breaks even the bonds of an apprentice enslaved to a master who rules the galaxy with the terrible power of the dark side.
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Yup just wish the sequals was actually luke building a new jedi order with more freedom if you get what i mean, btw watching starwars with your kid is awesome as i did with my dad 🙏 i’m 19 and still watch them with him
When the Jedi got too powerful Anakin killed them all. When the Sith got too powerful he killed them all. He brought balance to the force.
Yes
Indeed I have
Legit answer. I'll take it
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Darth Vader but. The younglings?!?!
Anakin said he would be the strongest Jedi and save his love ones from death, he finally got his chance to shine when it was time to save his son.
wait, that one's true
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Luke become the strongest jedi ever
Anakin is the chosen one
Luke is hope
And he killed palpetine
Obi-Wan once stated: "It [the Force] binds the galaxy together." Yoda then states: "its energy surrounds us, binds us." It is then a paradox that the Jedi had become afraid of the notion of being attached or bound to things, which according to their own philosophy, was the natural state of things.
The jedi were just fearful of showing partiality to the thing they were attached to, which would be in conflict their goal of living in harmony with the force, which was in everything. You cannot treat everything with equal value if you have a favorite. You would always put that favorite above everything else, like how Anakin chose to turn his back on everything else for Padme which led to his fall.
I never understand why people still ask the question 'was Anakin the chosen one'. Clone Wars, Season 3, Mortis Arc. It's literally asked and answered in those three episodes. He was. It's canon.
RIGHT! @Lore Star why did you not mention this?!? He took the test and was proven to pass!
I had to sift through so many ignorant comments above to finally see someone referencing the Mortis Arc. How the heck did Lore Star include footage of both clone wars and rebels without even mentioning the true purpose of the chosen one???
Honestly who ever wrote that arc did a great job. Lucus clearly completed the idea of the prophecy. But for diseny to milk star wars balance needed to never be achieved. This arc has anikan refuse his destiny and ultimately never being balance. The light and dark are still at war and each side constantly taking power then falling.
Exactly! Thank you for saying that 💖
Not just that. Lucas staight up says so himself on multiple occasions.
Actually R2 is the chosen one, he helped a few characters so the story could progress to the point that luke could save vader
and so Jar Jar right ?
@@Askilone read my mind 😅
@@Notmymycology the chosen one is the trade federation
Ok.. but who built R2.
@@jonass9 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Agree with this so much. I've always found the Old Jedi Order to be misguided and even cult-like; Anakin might have been the catalyst of their demise, but they indirectly destroyed themselves. While good intentioned, they feared attachments so much they took kids from their parents, never to be heard from again, and put them in a bubble with others who also refused attachments. You could leave, but then you lose everything you were brought up to understand and believe in. Any relationships, although distant, would be gone.
It was so extreme, they allowed Anakin's mother to die; a Padawan, as strong as Anakin, having dreams of his mother suffering, and he was ordered to ignore it. Had he been an obedient Padawan, he would have and then never would have discovered his mother had died. But instead, he tries to ignore it, but can't, but then arrives too late to save her. Had the Order done the right thing, they would have had open communications with parents and allowed Anakin to leave to help the rescue parties on Tatooine. She was gone a month; if he had arrived just a little sooner, she would have survived. That's some cold shit, Jedi Order.
On the flip side, Luke's Jedi Order, at least in Legends, is the opposite of this. Luke has a huge support system of family and friends; he gets married, has a son, and other Jedi do the same, unaware--at least for a time--that the Old Order didn't allow such things. Good. Because if you have a strong support system and lose a wife, a mother, a child, a friend, you have others to support you. And Jedi, true Jedi, know their loved ones are just fine, being one with the Force. They do not fear attachments, making them closer to the light than the Old Order.
So your saying the real balance of the force is the friends we made along the way
No thats the real bad place
This comment is fucking amazing
the way the comment is worded, sounds so dumb, but after watching the video, it is 100% correct.
I screamed omg
The Good Force lol
If George Lucas says Anakin is the Chosen One, that's the end of that debate once and for all.
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Sadly not anymore...
Nope. Neckbeards in mommy's basement have the correct answers. They'll tell you so if you don't believe them.
Problem is Lucas said Anakin is the chosen one because he destroyed the Emperor & the sith. That's no longer the case.
@@ergob3907 George Lucas is The Maker. Everything he says about Star Wars is canon and final. The ST is non-canon for merely contradicting The Maker with regards to Palpatine's fate.
I think the imbalance in the force was the fact that no one was really listening to what the force willed. The jedi order was full of corruption and were using the force as a political means and the sith are just trying to use the force to extract power. No one was doing what the force wanted which is why jedi exist, they are supposed to listen to the force and use their body as a means for it. Qui-gon knew that and stated it in the movies, and even went against the council.
How was the Jedi corrupt?
@@sochioranmyaku Instead of listening to the will of the force they were using it as a political means, a military power basically to enforce their view of the world. Jedi are supposed to basically be monks, but instead they were acting the way generals in an army act or like a military police force. They would in fact actively ignore the will of the force to follow the councils strict codes. Like when Anakin needed Quigon to train him, they say no because they believe the fear in his past will lead him to the darkside, when really they could have just helped him understand his emotions and then he very likely wouldn't have gone to the dark side. Plus his mother wouldn't have died because he was having visions that his mom was in danger and quigon tells him to trust the visions, but obi-wan tells him to mind the present and basically just says their mission comes first. And if you listen to Anakin in the movies he doesn't say it once and obi-wans like "gimme 5 mins", he says he was having the visions for weeks or maybe months I cant remember.
The jedi don't technically need to keep kids from their families or from marriage either, the order just is so paranoid about ending the long period of "no sith" by accidentally converting a jedi to the darkside that they are being far too cautious and overbearing.
The jedi are also arrogant and think they are always right, like when they go and ask the archive lady where such and such planet is, and she says "if its not in our database then it simply does not exist" thats 1) arrogant because shes saying their knowledge of the galaxy is flawless and 2) shes saying their security system is so perfect that no one could ever alter the information in the archive, which we know is false because it was altered.
Also i'm pretty sure the jedi hide sith artifacts under the jedi temple, or something, I remember that being like one of the last things that dooku found out about the jedi before he abandoned them for the reasons i listed and went over to the darkside.
There's at least a few videos that talk about it: ruclips.net/video/UU1mLyUi3mg/видео.html
If you want to watch Star Wars from my point of view then consider Qui-gon the model for what a jedi is supposed to be, and then see how everyone else differs, and note that at one point obi-wan tells him he would be sitting on the council if he followed the councils orders and Qui-gon tells him "you have much to learn". Which to me is him saying "don't listen to the council, listen to the force."
Edit: I also just want to add that we have good evidence that your age doesn't matter, and that your parents being killed on a desert planet doesn't matter when determining a jedis polarization with the force because Luke's story perfectly mimics Anakins and Luke didn't fall to the Dark Side. Or Anakins mimics Lukes depending how you want to look at it. They both walked the same path, but Anakin was told by Yoda he couldn't be trained, and Luke was told by Yoda "who gives a shit, ill train you myself"
@Suda while they had good intentions, they were serving more as soldiers for the Galactic Senate than keepers of the peace. Moreover, the Galactic Republic was actually being ruled by a Sith Lord, and the Clone Wars was really just a very elaborately orchestrated and well-planned-out power coup by Palpatine, so the Jedi were actually unknowingly working for a Sith Lord and doing his bidding. It’s no wonder the galaxy was falling to the Dark. The Jedi were willingly doing the Sith’s work for them and didn’t even know it.
@@WarriorofSunlight Yeah, it's especially funny to watch the scene from ep. 2 where basically the whole Jedi council sits right in from of the Sith lord in his cabinet, and yet no one senses or realizes it - even the grand master Joda, who was shown to sense the deaths of his fellow jedis in another corner of the galaxy. I believe this scene was shot this way intentionally, just to show us how blind and arrogant jedis has become.
Beautifully put
Lets just apreciate how he completely ignored the sequel trilogy
not completely, he said Luke's journal took place after ep. 8
Because the sequel trilogy was based with a different prophecy? The chosen one prophecy had been fulfilled and it was following the prophecy of the force diad
What sequal trilogy?
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@@Chrisy7 he said between 6 and 8
So Rex got Anakins attachment because Rex said that he'd care more his brothers and feelings instead of orders also he said
That Anakin taught him that
Who's Rex?
@@sap20lj Rex,Captain rex i think u dont watch clone wars no offense
@@sap20lj
Rex is the captain who served with Anakin during the Clone Wars.
@@sap20lj bruh waddya doin, man, watch Clone Wars
I think you nailed it honestly. The Jedi had become detached and stagnant, as one often does when there is no competition. I think the constant showing of Yoda and Mace in Palpatines office, without a hint of knowing he's the Master Sith, is crucial to the details that the Jedi have absolutely lost their way. Ultimately, it appears that neither the Jedi or the Sith are absolutely correct. Obi-Wan concludes Anakin is lost because only a Sith deals in absolutes, but fails to see that the Jedi also deal in absolutes.
So Anakin was brought upon the Jedi as a chance to correct themselves. They instead failed him and paid the ultimate price. Anakin in turn suffered many decades for the wraith he bestowed upon them, toiling away under true evil until again love floods Anakins heart for Luke. He was not even aware of it since he's never been taught how to love properly, his dark ways convinces him he is only attached to Luke to further his goals of absolute power.
In the end, Anakin finally commits the greatest act of love, self sacrifice. He sacrifices everything for Luke, his power, his delusions and his life. He gives everything for his son and shows Luke the truth; balance. The Jedi believe you should give up all worldly attachments and emotion, the Sith you should give up everything for yourself. Neither provide a choice, Balance is choice. Choice to be selfless and still love someone selfishly. Choice to make yourself happy and still serve the greater good. To love individually, but still give yourself to the greater good.
This is why we shouldn't of had a third trilogy coz this makes the 6 movies so deeply connected
In a way the sequels break Palpatine's legacy and the Jedi are implied to be rebuilt by both Rey and the deceased Jedi that helped at Exegol. The lost technique of life transfer by the Jedi was lost because they sealed themselves off from the galaxy and it's ironic that it's what Anakin sought from the beginning
3rd trilogy ruined was terrible but 9 was good reintroducing palpatine opens up alot of new theorys, twists turns and plot holes i thinks cool tbh i think the 9 films was a careful plan from palpatine mapped out before he even killed plagues n the star wars universe walked right into all his plans except no one gave him opportunity to force possess a younger body altho he tried this mutiple times
No we just need a third trilogy to connect the peices from the first two
no, disagreed. we should have a sequel trilogy, just not disney's. we deserve lucas's sequel trilogy on how the force evolves after the originals.
@@plutonium120 I respect that opinion I reckon he would of done a better job then Disney lols I think because the first 6 was so good it would be hard to finish no matter who directs it.
Here's the catch: the prophecy never actually stated that The Chosen One would destroy the Sith. The Chosen One was to "bring balance to the Force by Destroying those who pervert its very nature..." the Jedi took this to mean the Sith, but in truth it meant both the Jedi and the Sith. But I do love your perspective.
That doesn't gel with me. Soley because I don't see George Lucas writing like that. He's a very staunch anti-war man, so why would he use destruction or violence as the solution? Redemption is the key in my book, not just of Anakin but of the Jedi Order as a whole, and yes that includes the Sith.
@@Tahkaullus01 That's exactly how it was written, and if you think about it George Lucas absolutely would write it just like that. Think about how the Jedi Order was during the Clone Wars. They were more corrupt than even the Sith, to the point that they led the Clone Army and tried to assassinate the Legitimate Leader of the Republic. Granted their reason was because he was a powerful Sith Lord, but it didn't change the fact that it was a religious issue. Killing is not what the Jedi do, and they were trying to change the very nature of the Force, by persuading it towards the light, instead of keeping balance. Not even Yoda learned this lesson until after he died.
He (more or less) brought the rule of two onto both sides.
"Force can't be in balance without jedi"
@@Juho221 the Force would be in perfect balance without both the Jedi and the Sith
“Love is true balance in the force”. Spot on, and what I was hoping the sequel trilogy would tackle. This is exactly the lesson that would have given us a reason to watch a third trilogy. Instead they just recycled the overused ideas of good and evil. Wish they had people like you working at Disney .
Um is Ben Solo not falling in love with Rey that same message?
@@princealexander6155 not really. He turned good first. The love part was just tacked on.
@@readingbetweentheframes It seems he finds an obsession with her, then attatchment, then starts to act to save her(which could represent him struggling with turning good), then seems to fall in love with her while also turning to the light side. Could argue it goes hand in hand.
This is so true having love and balance as a main theme would’ve definitely added complexity to the narrative.
Maybe down the line they’ll give us a new trilogy pushing the main story forwards using better story telling techniques.
Rey is not the chosen one. That Palpatine is just a clone who wasn’t even at full power or actually alive until he did the life suck or whatever. Anakin kills the real Palpatine.
Spirit of Palpatine lives on in the clone
Also because it’s “he” who will destroy the sith
It is implied that he is a clone? I mean yeah, they show the smoke clones, but he never says he is a clone. And asked about how he survived, he only says "the dark side is a pathway to abilities some consider to be unnatural". That worked in episode 3, but here there is no reason behind the sentence, and I can't see the connection to him being a clone :v
Its the same Palpatine, he did essence transfer. Unfortunately there's no fixing this.
@@ergob3907 actually theres rumor that the "Veil of the force" will be used to retcon the story. so its fixable, but there will be a large scar on the series if its true.
Anakin is the Chosen one, he brought balance to the force by destroying both extrimist cults that are the Jedi and Sith. He paved the way for the future, the future being his son and all other Jedi to come. Shame Disney didn't tell this story in the Sequels and brought back the Sith and Jedi.
Completely agree. Arguably the saddest thing about the sequels (which is saying a lot lol) is that they relegated Anakin to a marginal role... in the end he didn't accomplish anything really
@@cptr3db34rd3 Yes, he did because Disney isn't canon, Legends is.
I like the idea that he restored the Jedi who believed in love and attachments. The Sith believed Love led them back to the light, and the Jedi believed it led them to Darkness. Maybe that's a form of balance.
Balance is accepting the line of light and dark passes through the heart of all men. Denying this fact blinds you to the truth of the force and yourself.
@@englishlady9797 yep that's what the ancient Jedi believed. They had a Moon for those who went too far into the Light side, and another one for those who went too far into the Dark side. They studied both and keep themselves balanced, whereas Jedi and Sith dogmatized one side and went all in against the other one, creating and endless fight that wans't necessary in the first place.
I also feel that Anakin also kept his attachment to Padme, and seeing luke hurting brought back his desire to save Padme, now in the figure of his son being attacked by the emperor. Actually the new Vader comics d shows that vader tried several times to bring padme back, and while the emperor quelled that feeling temporarily, it never died, in the end Anakin kept alive in the recess of Vader but as his undying attachment to Padme
It’s anakin don’t even try saying luke he’s just the catalyst to bring him back to the light 1-6 is all anakins story
Yes George Lucas said this himself in the answering questions video with Hayden.
Exactly
Thou he was originally going to make luke the chosen one but he thought he already had vader so he made that character his primary one
Yes
They said bring balance to the force, not bring balance between siths and jedis
But ultimately both are true...with killing all Jedi, their wrong and unbalanced ways of holding back emotion and getting used as war machines diminished.
With destroying the Sith theirs of seeing true love as a weakness and using such love just to manipulate others and also of ruling the galaxy bringing fear to it, died too ... Anakin was part of both and in the End found, that both ways weren't what he actually wanted, both were wrong and he ultimately - with some detours - destroyed them and balanced their existence (in numbers) out: No actual Jedi and no actual Sith anymore, that could pass on their wrong teachings.
I also love the characters of Ezra and Kanan from Rebels in that context they *SPOILERS AHEAD* both sacrifice their lives, saving their loved ones, no matter what, after realizing that this is the only way and giving in to the force while doing so.
And most importantly: They did love, they did form attachments, so the ways of the Jedi were already lost there and their sacrifice, in turn, helped set up many things in motion, so that the ways of the sith could be destroyed soon after - balancing the force as a whole.
@@Droucko short form:
No Jedi. No Sith. Only the Force.
@@Droucko very well said and I agree. Enjoyed reading this.
@@Solarris Thanks mate :)
@@Droucko totally wrong. Lucas has confirmed that the Sith and the dark side are corruption in the force, disrupting the harmony that is the light.
Light is balance, dark is corruption.
I also think that Anakin bringing “balance” to the force required his turn to the dark side as he basically spent half his life as a Jedi and half as a Sith. He basically destroyed both the Jedi and Sith which in sense brought balance as the whole idea that light and dark must be separate is what needed to be destroyed in order to bring true balance. Both the Jedi and Sith had major flaws in their ways in that they strayed too far into the extremes of the spectrum
Obi wan brother zoned Anakin, when Anakin want him to be his father figure in episode II, he got the wrong father figure in Palpatine because of Obi Wan negligence as a father figure
Yep
But you also gotta look at Episode 1 and how Obi-wan was very hesitant to take on his Masters philosophies. Time and again Obi questioned his master, noting that it wasnt the will of the force or that it wouldnt be the jedi way. Qui-gon was trying to show and teach Obi wan the same compassion and love. And hoping that one day he would understand. And watching two people he cared about die in front of his eyes, it was clear to Kenobi that having attachments was wrong. In his eyes. Hence why he tried to train Luke that way.
But if we look at how Luke trains in legends and Disney, he utilizes the dark and light sides of the force. He uses balance. He still uses compassion. He still loves. Making the new Jedi loving and caring. Fulfilling the prophecy even further
Obi-wan was not negligent. He tried really hard. He put in tons of effort, year after year. That's not negligence.
He just failed.
Obiwan was not old enough nor mature to teach Anakin or to be a father figure
Obia was like 10 years older than Anakin, its really not enough of a difference for him to feel or be a father figure. It should have been someone 20 or 30 years older than Anakin
1. George Lucas is a genius.
2. 7-9 adds nothing to the story, but takes away from it.
You meant the Disney 7-9 that destroys the story. Lucas's vision for his 7-9 will add more to the story.
Amen
Not the way I see it. I believe the jedi code of dicipline, democracy, harmony etc. has tyrannical forces against the dark side of passion, strength, power etc. and vise versa. And you need a balance, which is why Ray in the last scene finds balance and gets a yellow light saber
@@simonaxdorph3742 do the colors really have anything to do with it though? also isnt yellow not even a in-between for red and blue? (that's purple but you know)
@@randomthings8732 Yellow was in the canon always just something jedi sentinels used, they had balance in combat and schooery so yes you are right, it has nothing to do with light and dark balance. Of course Disney had no idea about the canon and Rey basically just has a yellow one because nobody else in the movies had one, otherwise they would have known about Luke's reformed jedi order which was way less dogmatic and had members like Kyle katarn who used dark side force techniques while still being on the light side.
I love the way you articulate this.
This follows the legends interpretation of where Luke gets his enormous power from. He repeatedly states throughout the novels, that his connection to the ones he loves, strengthens his connection to the living Force. Without that unconditional love, his connection to the Force would also be conditional, and therefore limited. This is why he viewed both the Jedi and Sith teachings as being incomplete, in their respective understanding of the Force, and how to get the most out of it.
This is also why the sequel trilogy fundamentally breaks cannon. They reinterpret Luke's character, as if he did not actually understand this principle...which completely undermines his entire character, and therefore undermines the entire outcome of the last 6 movies. It basically retcons the entire reason why he was successful in redeeming Vader...and the impact that had on the Force itself. He never would have raised his lightsaber against one of his students, because he would have already known that they were never beyond redemption. Period. Full stop. Especially if that student was his own nephew. This is so out of touch with Luke's character, that to portray him this way, was basically to invalidate everything that motivated him to make the choices he made, in the original trilogy. They may as well have called the sequels a "reimagining"...not a continuation.
As far as the sequels are concerned, no balance was actually achieved in episode 6. They just decided to jump forward to a new set of characters running through the same set of requirements, despite the fact that those requirements were already met...and offered no good explanations as to why all of the original characters had completely changed their core identities. As far as I'm concerned...the sequels are not cannon. They violate so much about what the original story was trying to express, that to consider them true, means the rest of the story has to be false.
well said.
In the Obi-wan Kenobi series, it’s his attachment to Luke and Leia that give him the power to take on Vader. So sad he doesn’t realize that going in to the original series.
To me the sequels don't exist or are not Canon whatever, they are bad really really bad
@@braillynn4903 I think in a way despite the reception of the series as a whole that was a good lesson to show or teach Jedi that attachments aren't inherently evil and can be a strength or resolve that could allow them to reach new heights a way to draw strength from attachments like darkside users but in a positive contrast.
11:57 Anakin killed Emperor and fulfills prophecy.
Episodes 7-9: haha sike, let me ruin everything right quick
ALTERNATE TIMELINE THEORY
Didn't he come back also in the old canon?
Thats not canon atleast for me
@@mcboat3467 thankfully, it isn't cannon for anyone anymore. Officially renounced by the man himself
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Palpatine was cloned in one of the EU books, if that's what you mean. So were a bunch of other characters for that matter.
It's Anakin because Luke was his nut and so Anakin saved himself
Yes
You have such a way whit words
Bro this comment made my day lmao
This deserves more likes
Genius
revean: only I have been Jedi and sith
Count dooku: am I a joke to you?
Revan was literally born 4000 years before Dooku...
@@Nizer798 u right u right
And Then Disney Screwed Up
What Disney ?
The jedi believed the chosen one would destroy the sith.
The sith believed the chosen one would destroy the jedi.
Technically, both of them were right, but the Jedi's version of the prophecy didn't occur until they were at near extinction.
The Force users believed the chosen one would destroy the Jedi and Sith.
Mary Sue Rey Palpatine was a Chosen One
It means that a true force worshipers should be in a ballence between emotion (Dark Side) and logic (Light Side)
Truth be told it was never prophesied that the chosen one would destroy either, it said “the chosen one would bring ‘balance’ to the force” which inadvertently meant destroying the sith because the dark side is like a cancer to the force; what happens when you corrupt and bend the force to your will
I like how you said "Love leads the sith to the light, and the jedi to the dark" being the perfect balance.
It makes sense tbh, and really does add a deeper meaning!
I hope most everyone understood the genius of this video. Makes so many of the Anakin Padme scenes make sense, sparks a whole new version of star wars had qui gon lived...wow
Finally the true essence of star wars. this is it and this is the true meaning behind Ahsoka Tano character. she also represents the balance.
Ashoka was Anakin's first success as the chosen one; a Jedi taught by his influence to care and form attachments. She represents the results of Anakin's actions, and what the Jedi could have been if they'd listened to Anakin.
@@LoreStar I actually also believe that what happened with her on the Mortis Arc was a foreshadowing of Anakin's own redemption. Most other Jedi would have killed their Padawan at the first *HINT* she had fallen to the Dark Side, or was even being influenced by it, but Anakin refused to give up on Ahsoka and in the end was his faith in her and unconditional love for her that bought her back.
Obi Wan cared, but he was too much of a strict adherent to the Jedi Code, no matter what. I mean there was nothing inherently wrong with his loyalty, but when the Jedi code forced him to chose between obedience to it, or saving the ones he loved most, we know what he chose.
He put loyalty to the system and for the institution above love. Love for his friends, his brother and the woman he loved. I do believe that in the end, he learned the true meaning of love, but it took him a long time too.
I totally agree. Ahsoka is one of my favourite parts of the clone wars and I really feel that the animated show did Anakin so much justice. It made me really attached to both characters in a way the prequels didnt quite fully achieve. After watching clone wars I love the prequels and really feel for anakin. Would love to see Ahsoka get some screen time but only if done properly. With care and love from fans of star wars like Filoni not disney execs that prioritize money and producing merch over a great story with lovable characters. Thats my rant, love Ahsoka and Anakin. Also clone wars and the mandolorian are great so far in my opinion .
Yes I particularly loved Ahsoka in the mandalorian specifically because she killed the guards. It shows how she is the perfect jedi because she’s a peacekeeper who’s a servant of the light but knows that killing bad people is an important part to peace keeping effectively. If she tried to save every single life she would have failed and not kept the peace at all. Her ideal and method is much more realistic and the sort of things jedi should do
I always thought the chosen one was actually anakin's blood line but then ray comes out of nowhere saying hipity hopity your name is now my property ruined that
I feel like the sequel trilogy kinda ruined the whole chosen one prophecy .
Yeah
And that is why the sequel trilogy failed
lads got news for ya... quantum physicists have proven consciousness is a singularity... that means our brains do not produce their own consciousness but connect to it like wifi... that means we’ve all literally been the same person this entire time. There is no death. We live each other’s lives infinitely. This is because the electro magnetic activity in our heads that are responsible for our senses, memory, emotions and all other expressions we ascribe as reality, create a physical dreamlike state. The “force” is real and our false perception of ourselves (ego) is the dark side... our alien friends 👽👈 know this and humanity(majority) doesn’t. So the aliens can’t be public until we figure this out, NASA is fully aware of the extra terrestrial presence on earth but their lips are sealed 🤐 by higher ups. “Humanoid” is a 3D morphology that all life follows, so the ETs look like us a lot... some of them literally look human. Welcome to the space age and the matrix 😎🥳✌️the “chosen” one, is one who chooses themselves. Btw time travel is real but it doesn’t matter cause everyone is you anyway 😏
@@addamriley5452 so the matrix right?
Frank Freeman yes you’re in a matrix, wake up neo.
Perhaps Luke and Vader were the chosen one, but we all know that Obi is the chosen Wan.
Oh man this was so bad 😂
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"Rimshot"
Anakin may be the chose one but we know that Obi Wan is spacr Jesus
@@sebs5619 Not even close
I think in many ways he represents the problems of the jedi at the time: he was very close to the chancellor seeing him as a mentor ( the jedi were being controlled by the chancellor and influenced by the Senate ) he was used as a soldier not a "keeper of peace". He also represents the fear the jedi had of the dark side. Instead of embracing Anakin who was connected to the light and the dark side of the force, they feared him because of his fear for the ones he loved. They said fear lead to the dark side and clouds one's judgment while letting it cloud their own. He is essentially "bringing balance to the force" by uncovering and unearthing the issues within the jedi themselves.
I like this interpretation of the chosen one. This theory is sound and makes the most sense to me. I like it because balance in the force is not controlling the force but existing in the force and not imposing your will on the force. Again let the force flow through you and guide your actions and your heart. Love conquers all is a great message and allows hope to ring eternal. Very very Star Wars if you ask me.
I agree with it too. The problem with the Jedi (well one of many) is they put rigid adherence to the rules above genuine compassion and unconditional love. I for one, and many people would probably believe that helping your friend and saving your loved one when they needed you most is more important than those rules. Its not selfish, its not of the Dark Side, to do anything you can to help those you love and to prevent a great injustice from happening to them.
That's why Anakin is my favourite character in spite of everything and the terrible mistakes that he made. (I do believe he was genuinely remorseful and repentant for his actions, not just at the end, but throughout his years as Vader, he just could never express it)
Not Obi-Wan, although he's a great guy. Obi Wan was caring, but when it really came to it, he would always put the Jedi Code first even if it meant sacrificing the ones he loved. He could have saved Satine by killing Maul, but he refused, believing it to be a path to the Dark Side, and I honestly believe being made to kill his brother Anakin on Mustafar destroyed him. He chose differently when Maul found him on Tattooine and threatened Luke.
*aCtUaLlY jAr JaR wAs ThE cHoOsEn OnE aNd WaS pUlLiNg ThE sTrInGs*
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I still like the Darth Jar Jar theory lol^^
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Jar Jar _is_ the key to all this.
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE JAR JAR
IT WAS SAID YOU WOULD HELP THE JEDI NOT ANNOY THEM
4:57 "Only a sith deals in absolutes" they remembered that iconic line
Can we just appreciate the fact that he literally told us to feel free to dislike the video as constructive criticism? Mad respect dude. That deserves a thumbs up from me.
Also, I think that the Jedi misunderstood what balance meant. They assumed that it was the absence of the Sith. The issue is that one cannot exist without light and dark. To be always good is not human nature but to be always bad is not it either. I believe that the chosen one prophecy was to embrace the entirety of the force instead of the dogmatic view of the Jedi and Sith. It is to embrace the entirety of life and to gain wisdom through all aspects of the force. The Jedi should be the people's guide and not just through the teachings of Ashla but also through Bogan.
what? in the hell? a 'dislike' is not constructive criticism at all? let's say: respect for openly allowing others to dislike or disagree. being open to constructive criticism is a whole other level.
Feels wrong having this conversation without talking about Mortis/The Father, Son, and Daughter.
Right? Anakin was supposed to take over the mantle of Father but declined the role. And he just happens to end up with a son and daughter of his own.
Yep. But luke has moved black holes. Not sure if that feat matches imprisoning the son and daughter but they both are beast
Your insights are epic!! Until watching this video, I thought there was way too much emphasis placed on the forbidden romance between Anakin and Padme. I will now forever appreciate these scenes.
Your interpretation of the Chosen One prophecy makes sense, and it's a beautiful one. Loved it! After taking all things into consideration, this looks like the best one as Star Wars has always been about these things. (Excuse me, I'm short of words. I might edit this later. That's how much I loved this interpretation)
Luke was never the chosen one. It was Anakin from the start till the end
Thou George did intend luke to be the chosen one in his original script but he wanted the chosen one to fall and thought wait I have vader who is his father so maybe I should change him to be the chosen one and that’s how it started
No luke saved anakin and brought Balance to the force
But who killed the emperor
@@daemianmatthews2062 why does it matter who kills who in the end because this whole balance thing is never fleshed out the darkside will always exist and there will always be evil people who use it, why does killing the emperor change anything, unless he knows something we don’t or he has a power only the sith know about and once he is dead no one will know how to use said ability, that would make sense
@@daemianmatthews2062 anakin he kinda threw him off the edge into a reactor
this is the one big reason why i love starwars, all these fallacies all these faults and all this confusion... the flaws on both sides, the flaws in the soldiers, the civilians, the leaders, polititians etc. this is what makes this universe so deep and why we to this day still have great stories with moral conundrums that can often be learned from and applied to the real world. such as the successful interpretation of the moral nuance of good, evil and the gray area in between.
Imagine if the sequels had explored finding a way forward without the restrictions of the prequel-era order instead of retreading the initial worlduilding and perpetuating the same cycles of betrayal all over again
Yeah, the sequels were just repeating Star Wars without understanding Star Wars.
This is why I love Filoni. He truly understands what Star Wars was about, in such a deep and thoughtful way that even ourselves, the fans as a whole, were only able to, instinctively. And he uses his understanding of the whole saga to further the vision behind it all.
There’s so much I can say about this one topic. I’m gonna have to not include the Sequels during my ramblings though.
Prophecies are tricky as hell. Someone had a vision (or more than one) that a man was going to bring balance to the Force. They didn’t specify when this was going to happen though. They might have given more details about how it was going to happen, but I doubt we’ll ever know.
The Prophecy didn’t happen for a really, really long time though. So throughout the ages, it gets reworded and misinterpreted whenever someone needs to update the scriptures. At some point, both sides (Jedi and Sith) didn’t realize just how wrong they were with what the Prophecy actually meant.
I theorize that Darth Bane had the semi-right idea though (can’t remember if he actually knew or believed the Prophecy though), at least when it came to power and what it would take to defeat the Jedi once and for all. I think he even knew that it wouldn’t be in his lifetime (could be projecting here, it’s been a long time since I read up on Bane). He basically obliterated the current Sith Lords for his plan to work. He knew knowledge and secrecy was the key to ruining the Jedi.
The Rule of Two played an important role to defeating the Jedi; Two Sith Lords having the full knowledge of the dark side and Sith alchemy + magic. Even if a Force sensitive dark side user was born, it was unlikely they’d gain this knowledge without the aid of a Sith Lord, at least until the Apprentice was prepared to kill their Master.
The Jedi eventually failed because they kept racking up the rules in their Order. They became hypocrites and didn’t really allow themselves to be part of the Galaxy and its culture. Sure you could leave the Order without the Jedi feeling betrayed, but their rules were made to be _absolute_ (and we all know how that works out, lol).
The Jedi doubted practically anything that they viewed as “temptation to the dark side” as a strength, like strong emotions, fear, caring attachments, and etc.
Therefore, the Sith became extremists for the dark side, and the Jedi eventually became extremists for the light side. When both sides did this, there was no balance, because the Force is meant to be balanced within the individual. It’s why the Je’daii (Legends) prayed to both Ashla and Bogan.
Enter Anakin Skywalker. He was born out of pure Force when Darth Plagueis and Palpatine meditated to manipulate the Force into a living soul. The Force retaliated though, and move this soul far away from them. The Force placed this soul in Shmi Skywalker because she was a good person; she may not have been Force Sensitive, but she was the light that was needed to bear something created out of the dark.
(That was my interpretation when I read the Plagueis novel)
Basically, Anakin was created from the dark side, but born and partially raised from the light. He was intended to be the Balance from the get-go by the Force itself.
For me, this is why Qui Gon had to die. He was the perfect trainer for Anakin, a Grey Jedi; one who was (almost) balanced enough to be that perfect Force user. Dual of the Fates was symbolic for me (after diving into the Legends and learning), because it was 3 types of Force users battling essentially to be the one who trained Anakin...
- Maul represented the dark
- Obi Wan represented the light
- Qui Gon represented both
Had Qui Gon lived, the Prophecy wouldn’t have happened because both sides needed to be fighting over Anakin. Without Anakin’s struggles, he wouldn’t have been the Chosen One, or least been able to fulfill this need for the Force’s Balance within each individual.
We can even see Anakin fulfilling parts of the Prophecy before the war was over. Notably with;
- Padme, his love and reason to continue on the Jedi path.
- Obi Wan, someone he considered a brother and Obi Wan did care for Anakin in the same way, thus wavering the Force within Obi Wan.
- Ashoka Tano, his Padawan, who he trained to be balanced with the Force without really realizing it.
- Palpatine, a mentor figure he wanted to trust and gave him knowledge that maybe the Jedi had become less than what they used to be.
Once the war was over, and Palpatine won, part of the Prophecy was completed; the Jedi were nearly extinct, giving light side users who survived a chance to become balanced on their own. Meanwhile, Palpatine and Darth Vader “evened” out with the dark side and turning some Jedi into dark side Inquisitors.
Then came the Fall of the Empire. Leia “played her part” by being balanced without knowing she was a Force Sensitive individual; she was a force to be reckoned with and used her skills (sometimes lying and killing) for the good cause.
And we have Luke, of course. A late bloomer with the Force, but was able to question Obi Wan and Yoda’s teachings without losing the path to balance, and without disrespecting them. The faith Luke had to bring his father Anakin back from the dark was a key component to aid Vader’s decision and end the Sith “lineage”.
Anakin was the Chosen One. He brought back the balance to the Force, mostly to allow a new age of people to learn from the mistakes made in the past and become better societies to the best of their ability.
Yah, some people are going to fight that, but it’s what Anakin chose to do that allows this freedom of choice. It allows people to fight for their rights and not allow another form of dictatorship. Which the Jedi had become in a way... and the Sith were always (lol).
The Sequels sort of diminished this, but I believe that’s because “some people” just didn’t get what Lucas and Co had created. They were too focused that the fans didn’t really like the Prequels, that they didn’t realize the fans loved the world building and eventually saw what Lucas attempted to do with the Prequels. They just didn’t really listen and tried to make their own thing with Star Wars. If that makes sense.
End of rambling. Prolly got some stuff wrong and definitely made some grammar errors (autocorrect hates me too).
Please condense this I can't read all this
Interesting interpretation
Mecha Zord - thank you. It’s prolly flawed as hell in some parts. I’ve only read (maybe) half of what the Legends get into. Lol. There’s just so much.
Dragon ClawZ - didn’t get a notice you replied. Can’t really condense cause I that was the best I could do without writing an actual essay, with sources.
If you’ve read some Legends though, that’s where I got most of my ramblings from.
- Tython and the Je’daii
- Sith race (not the lords)
- Nomi Sunrider
- Revan and Malak, + Bastilla Shan
- Grey Jedi
- Darth Bane, Rule of Two
- Jedi Order timeline, and how they keep adding rules as time goes on
- Darth Plagueis novel (definitely recommend!)
And just the general idea of Prophecies and how they “work”. The Chosen One was a prophecy that was seen a long ass time ago, and throughout the ages people tend to misinterpret the words; this kind of prophecy is vague and doesn’t add details. It’s why Obi Wan considers Luke to the CO and not Anakin, but it’s not, it’s always been Anakin because the history of the SW Legends universe can show us why.
Going to try and correct some things, but a great post.
First of all, it is stated somewhere that the prophecy also included the fact, that chosen one would be born of the force so that, together with the balance of the force part is what the jedi were going off of to my understanding. Now I don't believe, or do i see evidence to the fact that anyone forgot how the prophecy was meant, or that the jedi shifted in their understanding of it over time. It's more the fact, that they didn't understand what balance in the force meant in the first place (as explained in the video).
Second, in the non-canon book darth plagueis it is unfortunately not properly stated what exactly that shift in the force was that sidious and plagueis caused, but i didn't see any evidence towards the fact, that they tried to create life at that point (the killing and resurrecting of that former-wannabe-Sith-Byss was later in the book) or if they did, it wasn't necessarily them specifically creating anakin and him being "misplaced" by the force, but rather the force deciding that they had gone too far and thus created anakin itself to retaliate. But this is a minor point and could be up for debate.
Lastly, I think the entire theme works surprisingly well within the sequels (although i am not sure how much of that is intended) and it only really gets a little shaky in episode 9 with sidious not actually being dead, which somewhat cheapened anakins struggle (maybe pointing towards the fact, that the end of the sith order wasn't part of "balance" all along, but rather a means to the end of having a balanced force user, aka Luke Skywalker. Although that doesn't make much sense as that would kind of go against the idea of the dark side being a perversion of the force, albeit ever present, that needs to be controled, not left unchecked (there is a great video on that by . aka the guy with the long video about kreia). Maybe ol' palps was in such a terrible state that it actually counted as "under control"). The part where luke had a very short moment of weakness when he tried to kill kylo (mirroring the moment in episode 6 when he was just about to kill vader) and then proceeds to be depressed about it is actually a beautiful representation of the idea that the dark side is ever present and isn't simply "overcome" with one good deed, but needs to be fought and struggled with right until your final breath.
Anyway, sorry for the long response, hope i didn't take too much time out of your day :)
I always saw balance in the force needing to take place on a personal level. Balance in the force can only be achieved when force users find balance in themselves. Both light and darkness blind but through balance you can see clearly. People mention "The One's" but I think they are the example of the force at it's extremes. In my interpretation balance is only achieved when force users are "grey Jedi", which the majority of great force users were in one way or another.
I see Luke as more as of a catalyst for the Chosen One to fulfill the prophecy
In The Clone Wars, there is an episode that tells us that Anakin Skywalker is in fact the chosen one
yes. the mortis arc. one of the greatest arcs in the clone wars
Because he is!
That was my favorite story line. It perfectly explains what Anakin's purpose really was.
That’s what I was saying. I thought Anikin was literally supposed to stay at that planet to assume the place of the father.
Wow this is so good and fits so perfectly. Both the sith and the jedi had gone to two different extremes. As the sith before them the jedi too needed to fall because they had gone too far the other way. Anakin and Luke in the end though we may call them jedi had truly become something else. Not an extreme but a balance to learn how to deal with the good of life AND the bad hardships. Great video man thanks for this. :)
Everyone: Is Anakin the chosen one? Or is Luke the chosen one?
Lore Star: Yes.
@Arthur Pilgram I'm indifferent to who's the "real" chosen one, but I recently watched an interview with Dave Filoni and he was saying that Luke redeemed Anakin in the end; he redeemed "the chosen one", and as the video was saying, perhaps Luke learning to love his father-- his family member-- is what a true jedi would do, and it's what Qui-gon would've taught Anakin.
@Arthur Pilgram and, he "brought forth" Luke.
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Anakin is The Chosen One.
The Jedi corrupted the original version of the ''Chosen One prophecy'' just like the Sith did, which eventually led to their downfall.
I think it's Anakin who was the chosen one. It still took Anakin to overthrow the emperor to change and end the war even though he tried many times. It was through his loins that luke even existed. Luke only empowered him to sacrifice everything to become the light again. Through love for the one he lost. He saw his pain through luke.
So....
When everyone says ”bringing balance to the force” and such. Its not that equaling the numbers and size of both sides. Its about the Jedi finding the path to being able to care, since They had for a long time become too political and acted as emotionless sentinals that were only there to fufill a duty.
That makes more sence and is a lot more satisfying from what i understood from the video.
Two chosen ones, twin suns, father and son.
Oooh, what a great tagine!!!
At first i said omg
But twin suns
Isnt Luke and Leia?
I think maybe it's more like a Dali Lama, panchen Lama situation, anakin is for sure the chosen one but he could never have don'e what he needed to do without Luke so in a big way he's equally as important, like how the guy who scores the winning goal wouldnt of been able to do it without his teammate setting it up for him with the pass
I feel like that is true
@@mrpumavol7.044 its more Anakin and Luke cause they both lived in Tatooine
As a fan of the Skywalker Saga, I completely agree with your interpretations.
To me, it shows the shadow of Vader is vanquished by the light of Anakin's legacy, allowing a path to let others follow in his footsteps.
By choosing the good over the evil, any person in the galaxy may be a Skywalker.
Not by blood, but through action and something stronger: the Force.
Just let it in.
This is the Skywalker way.
You've just outlined why the sequel trilogy missed such an opportunity. When I heard the Emperor was returning, I decided not to see the last film.
I wonder if Anakin turning into Darth Vader was all part of the prophecy this whole time. That was his way of bringing balance to the force?
Anakin mastered both sides of the force
Brian C, Right but still I wonder if that was all part of the plan all along 🤔
@@jeffreyjohnsonakashadowolf5562 the problem with prophecy, is everyone reads it in context of the Jedi. The issue is bigger than the Jedi. The force does not serve the Jedi. The Jedi and other Force users, even dark side users tap into the force. The Sith seek to dominate it. The sith are themselves an imbalance. Jedi decimation was the price that was paid to bring balance.
@@jeffreyjohnsonakashadowolf5562 The thing is, there are 2 ways to balance the force, one is to kill all the sith and jedi, and the other is to have the same amount of jedi and sith.
The second would wage infinite wars, making the first the only option if the galaxy wants peace.
After watching the last season of the clone wars, I think there was a crucial moment where Anakin could've fulfilled the prophecy much sooner, and Ahsoka and Maul were really instrumental to this.. If Anakin hadn't been assigned to Palpatine / if Palpatine hadn't devised the Coruscant siege to distract Anakin and Obi-Wan, both of them could've been on Mandalor together in the moment to meet Ahsoka and Maul and learn of Palpatine's plot to corrupt Anakin, they would've heard Maul's account of his vision that Anakin was the chosen one, and together there's a good chance they all could have defeated Palpatine, albeit with probable casualties/deaths. Even in the trailer for the final season, the trailer builds to a climax where Maul says "every moment has led to this," or something like that. I think both him and Ahsoka, alongside Anakin, had the potential to bring balance to the force in a way that was outside/beyond both jedi and sith ideologies.. which is where both Maul and Ahsoka were headed anyway.
I think Palpatine knew this and therefore kept Anakin closer to him to prevent this outcome- he was a mastermind strategist, after all. And it worked, but ultimately there were counterbalancing elements to his influence on Anakin-- obviously Ahsoka and later Luke were key players in bringing him around and helping guide him to fulfill the prophecy.
"I have been both Jedi and Sith and found clarity in the Force." Revan is such an awesome character.
Man, this is so good, totally agree with everything, adds a whole other layer of philosophy to the Skywalker saga and also makes me feel very sorry for Anakin, he really had no choice and he ended up suffering the most out of everyone, truly a tragic hero rather than a full on villain. Great video!
P.S. I love how you didn't even mention the sequels as if they do not exist - for me they aren't cannon and contribute in absolutely no way to the storyline of the original saga.
I love how close to Luke he sounds while reading from Luke's perspective in Secrets of the Jedi
I hope they let Filoni make a movie about the Grey Jedi. Maybe with Qui-Gon Jinn as the protagonist, learning from some of them.
Nicely put! I’ve heard the old arguments for either Anakin or Luke being the Chosen one. You took it a step further: The symmetry of Luke only being able to save his father due to his attachment, and Anakin’s attachment to his son that allowed him to redeem himself by saving his son. Together they balanced the force in this universe.
It’s about love. Love for family, love for a person, love for yourself. Love beings balance. Anakin had love for his children and seeing them on the brink of death showed he had love for his son and daughter and he redeemed himself and became balanced in the end. Like Revan, Annie was from both light and dark to heavy to one side and you will be unbalanced. Vader was able to vanquish evil and show the Jedi that love is a path to redemption. Now I can also say that because it’s so hard to control love, as seen through Annie’s life, the Jedi are in a way right to not have Jedi be attached but a Jedi would never be balanced. That’s were the Jedi failed. If the Jedi were to teach a balance of love then a Jedi or anyone could be in balance and that’s were you’d see the prophecy fulfilled. You’re right about Qui-gon, I believe he would have taught Annie how to balance his attachments. My question is was Yoda a balanced Jedi? I would think so as he seemed to be able to address attachments for his peers and his younglings. But could he have been unbalanced and too far leaning to the light and didn’t want Annie or any of the Jedi to love?
Its a great interpretation, especially when you add in Anakin's dialogue, "I'm not the jedi I am supposed to be, I want more and I know I shouldn't".
The real balance of the force and the message is for fathers to love their sons and for sons to honor their fathers.
If we had more fathers willing to sacrifice their lives and powers for their sons we wouldnt be having so many issues like we have right now and if sons honored their parents it would all come full circle
This is my single most favorite Star Wars lore video ever, so many of the ideas I was right on the edge of being able to articulate are finally fleshed out so cleanly.
Yea it was Anakin, it was always him. Never had any doubts, it was never said or told how he would do it. The problem lays with new films.
Your interpretation, aided by Filoni's wisdom, feels like the perfect answer to me. Well done! It also means the arc was completed with 6, and makes me hate 7, 8!!!!, and 9! even more
"love is the balance of the force"!
This Jedi Knight thinks deeply , nods and awards you the rank of master.
I feel like the entire skywalker family are the chosen ones, Luke and Anakin, for without one, the other would be lost, and this goes back to the idea of the importance of family. At the end of the day we’re all the chosen one, this is our story. That’s my interpretation
Technically speaking Anakin doesn't have a father . He born because of midichilorians. He is not a normal mortal being. He is a celestial ( father , son , daughter " they are born from force" ) So that makes Anakin a celestial too. If he didn't crippled and reach his full potential . He is probably became unstoppable . And there is phrase in the chosen one prophecy about being born fatherless . Luke just a child of celestial being . And have most high potential among all force sensitives because of his father. And even his midichilorians account doesn't come any near Anakin's . And don't forget even parents both strong force sensitives there is possibility to child born to be normal . Example ; Revan and Ballista having non sensitivite child . Revan is the most strong force sensitive in his age and Ballista one of the strong force sensitives . And Anakin's wife (Padme) is a non sensitivite too . But both of the children exceptionally very strong in the force . Because of Anakin is unique . He is the chosen one . Everything Luke can achieve happened because of his father . Even as a Darth Vader he hold back . And eventually save his son from Palpatine. All this years he didn't want to challenge palpatine for power because he didn't really care for power ( for hım it just a tool to project his loved ones , so there is no reason anymore to want to power ) . " he even have change to kill palpatine before but he didn't because there is nothing for hım except empire " But when he learn he has a son he want empire . Not to himself , he wants his son to be emperor . His armor full of error . So he can always fell to pain . Palpatine want it happen like that . So he knows he is dying with the armor . And he just want his son well beign .even influence of dark side . Poor Anakin he is really victim of both light siders and dark siders. Especially light siders try to control hım , don't let him to fulfill his destiny , never trust hım , try to use hım , not keep good eye on him and hold hım back . they are even let him taken by palpatine a politician at that time . Where is the logic in that ? Why you are sending hım influence of palpatine ? Force want revulotion for light side and destruction of dark side Because they are try influence midichilorians and try to create sith'ari .( darth Plaguesis and darth sidious ) So force rebels to this And creates Anakin( chosen one ). But when there is no come back for jedi ( they are do many bad things at the clone wars area, they are don't even knowledge their own rules ( they are go to war as a peace keepers having super secret prison for force sensitives etc.) So force destroy both of them . And luke's order is born . Perfectly balanced and no mistakes as old jedi order .
Maybe the real chosen ones, were the friends we made along the way
@@Mr_Doogz
Yep, those friends are our Chosen Ones
Well absolutely. Let’s pretend Disney star wars sequels did not exist
@@ilovepresidentxi imagine hating the sequels 🤡🤡
This is amazing! This should be discussed way more, it makes so much sense and brings such a beautiful story arch to the saga
I would really love to hear if people like Lucas or Filoni had this type of theory in mind while creating/expanding the Star Wars universe
Thank you for this!
Dude. This is EXACTLY what I thought when I first watched the movies when I was a teen. Thank you for validating it all!
I love your interpretation and I wish more people would research where the Jedi came from and people like Darth vectivus the Sith Lord who did no evil
dude. this video blew my mind. I have such a whole new appreciation for the prequels and now even the originals. I 100% agree that balance in love and attachment is really the message here and that the jedi lost their way in obstaining from love. awesome video
The sequels should have been about palpatines clones and his clones apprentices or whatever against Luke’s new jedi order that believed in attachment and love and were balanced and stuff I think that would have been really cool
I agree. They should have adapted Andersons Jedi Academy trilogy. When there was talk of the sequels, it was my hope that it would begin with Luke already having established a new order of Jedi. Their center being Yavin 4 and coming together to talk of deeds brave and bold (in a sort of futuristic version of Boorman's Excalibur) Luke and Mara, leading the way and THEIR son Ben possibly falling to the dark side or even being the redeemer of Han and Leia's twins who run off to be brash heroes only to be sucked into the dark side through their travels and establishing an order they thought would be welcoming to the one luke created but find out not so much....i don't know. I had such high expectations than the crap kk put out. I was completed disappointed and to add insult, to completely wipe away 40 years of, what I call true canon was, to me blasphemous.
Palpatine shouldn't have come back at all tbh
"You were the chosen one! It was said you you would destroy the Sith not join them! Bring balance to the force not leave it in darkness!" - Obi Wan Kenobi
the original trilogy is the only canon, prequels are crap, based on midichlorians, chosen one stupid prophecies, and other gungan crap...
@@BogusLion No man The Prequels and just a much of a masterpiece as the Original trilogy, Clone Wars, and the Expanded Universe. And yes the Prequels are canon along with midichlorians and the Chosen One prophecy.
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I completely understand why you're not a fan of the prequels, but I think you should at least watch this video because it explains why they're essential to canon.
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@The Pokemon Master and Yu-Gi-Oh! Master lol that existe already before the prequels... don't be dumb.
@@ahsoka5216 nope, I've already watched the prequels and several other nonsense on youtube, but you should watch redelettermedia reviews of the prequels, it's clear why they suck.
I think this is one the most important videos essays about star wars I have ever watched!
One thing that is overlooked is that when a Jedi dies they strengthen the light side of the force the skywalker's are extremely strong in the force by Vader dieing and being redeemed by the light side of the force means he also strengthened it so it is possible the force was balanced in a literal sense
Underrated comment. There is something special that happens literally when the chosen one (anakin) is redeemed and dies. If he died when not redeemed (Vader) balance would have been lost.
The Jedi, with their damnable sense of over-caution, would tell you love is something to avoid. Thankfully, anyone who's even partially alive knows that's not true. Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled... but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love... that's what they should teach you to beware. But love, itself, will save you... not condemn you. Ahhhh, but listen to me go on as if I had all the answers. What do I know of love anymore? I'm just a lonely old man who's not even a Jedi.
-JOLEE BINDO
Thank you for breaking this down for me. I’m a huge Star Wars fan, but this was really helpful.
Thank you!
Love it: compassionate, emotional, positive and underlining and pointing out the drama of what happened throughout ALL movies.
Even if it is not what George Lucas had intended, I'm sure he's pleased what it all turned into and how it still inspires people to think and to think beyond their respective comfort zones...
Keep up the good work!!
Full text of the Chosen One prophecy (Source: Master & Apprentice):
"When the kyber that is not kyber shines forth, the time of prophecy will be at hand.
One will ascend to the highest of the Jedi despite the foreboding of those who would serve with him.
Only through sacrifice of many Jedi will the Order cleanse the sin done to the nameless.
The danger of the past is not past, but sleeps in an egg. When the eggs cracks, it will threaten the galaxy entire.
When the Force itself sickens, past and future must split and combine.
A Chosen One shall come, born of no father, and through him will ultimate balance in the Force be restored.
He who learns to conquer death will through his greatest student live again."
I didn't include the passage about Leia because it's relevant to the Sequel Era, not the Chosen One.
The last line seems ironic given no one actually conquers death
@@m.c.martin do force ghosts count?
Tell me, is that the passage you did not mention about the Sword of the Jedi? Because in Legends that refers not to Leia but her daughter, Jaina Solo.
@@englishlady9797 Prophecy 1: “She who will be born to darkness will give birth to darkness.”
Likely about Leia giving birth to Kylo Ren, or in Legends terms, Jacen Solo.
@@jagnestormskull3178 Oh makes sense. Thanks. I wonder who the "nameless" are in the 3rd line. Maybe the helpless and marginalized. The Jedi weren't big on helping them towards the end.
You're thought about "love is the ultimate form of balance in the force." is spot on, but there is more to it. Especially when you have Rey and Kylo join in a dyad. That, to me was the fulfillment of the balance. When two force users are joined together to create something more powerful.
If you read Drew Kapyshyns "Revan" it was very possible Revan was the precursor chosen one, he finds balance in the force fighting a Sith Lord who literally used rituals to feed off the living force consuming planets of their living force. He was able to stand against that immense dark power simply using the force in its purest form by focusing on the living force utilizing what he knew from his time as a sith and jedi. As a "grey" jedi rather than one of the light or dark. Due to it being a "new" power he had discovered in that fight he lost and ended up imprisoned. So yes, Revans love for his companions lead him to find this truth that Anakin and Luke discovered in their fight against palpatine.
another character is Mace Windu. Arguably one of the strongest duelist along side obi-wan was the fact that Mace was previously a grey jedi/sith knew the dark side intimately and used that against dark siders in fights channeling the dark side in combat, basically proving force users are strongest when they use the best of what both sides have to offer: Emotions give you strength, but serenity brings you balance. Using both truely does bring you closer to your full potential and balance of the force.
Didn't Darth Plagues make up the whole thing himself? Didn't he create the clones and use the midichlorians to create the life of Anakin in his mother? Also, I'm wondering if Anakin would have killed the Tuskin Raiders if Qui Gon was still alive...would his mother have been saved?
But I love your POV on this. It was an awesome analysis!
Plaguis and palpatine did something which caused the force to react which produced anakin, but they did not directly create anakin, it’s theorised that they tried to form a force dyad together which is why the force responded by creating anakin as a dyad in the sith and two as powerful as them would’ve no doubt spelt the the coming of a great calamity
@@CE77777 Thanks for the clarification, appreciated!
James Walker no prob, anytime👌🏾
He was also only indirectly responsible for the creation of the clones. He manipulated sifo dyas, who had been quite critical of the jedi council and a friend of Hego Damask (the public persona of plagueis) into creating them and also gave him the money to do so. At least that is the way events go down in the non-canon book "darth plagueis".
@@CE77777 how do you know?
he brought balance to the force twice by getting rid of the blinding light and the overwhelming darkness and he spent half his life as a jedi and half as sith at the end he was a grey jedi in his final moments.
You’ve got my subscription sir. Your interpretation is what I’d been chewing on for years but hadn’t actualized. Well done my man
Especially from the perspective of the old republic Jedi, "balance" to them would be light side extremism. The Jedi do need to learn that being someone devoid of emotion isn't the answer. So many of them fell to the dark side and their solution was to keep doing the same thing over and over again. The definition of insanity. Vrook has a quote where he says that he's just gonna double down on the Jedi teachings. They say they want to help people but they have no love for their fellow man. They're not allowed to give a damn about them, and instead they teach their students to do it because it's what's expected. In the new canon it seems like Luke didn't learn anything though.
PS: I could have gotten you that Jolee Bindo footage without the background music. Next time just ask.
Grim 'alkun lads got news for ya... quantum physicists have proven consciousness is a singularity... that means our brains do not produce their own consciousness but connect to it like wifi... that means we’ve all literally been the same person this entire time. There is no death. We live each other’s lives infinitely. This is because the electro magnetic activity in our heads that are responsible for our senses, memory, emotions and all other expressions we ascribe as reality, create a physical dreamlike state. The “force” is real and our false perception of ourselves (ego) is the dark side... our alien friends 👽👈 know this and humanity(majority) doesn’t. So the aliens can’t be public until we figure this out, NASA is fully aware of the extra terrestrial presence on earth but their lips are sealed 🤐 by higher ups. “Humanoid” is a 3D morphology that all life follows, so the ETs look like us a lot... some of them literally look human. Welcome to the space age and the matrix 😎🥳✌️
I’d like to hear the view of a Buddhist Master with regards to the balance between attachment and compassion. Detachment frees one from desire, ultimately liberating one to be compassionate (showing loving kindness) to all sentient beings. Personal attachment to individuals is typically due to a desire that narrows one’s view of the world.
The Jedi Order during the time of Anakin & Luke failed to live up to the Buddhist ‘code.’ Anything they gained through nonattachment to individuals they lost through their attachment to destroying the Sith.
(Just in case some readers might dismiss Buddhism, as an unfamiliar religion, Christianity also adopts a compassionate approach: Matthew 5.43-44 NIV - “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,” The Jedi were more like Knight Templars during the Crusades.)
The point I’d like to make is simply that the Star Wars story is not a good basis for comparing the merits of detachment versus personal attachments.
Yeah I never really equate a
Star Wars too much with religion. Although the whole virgin birth of Anakin, and the balance of the force parts do have religious origins I believe. Anyway, as a Christian I have to admit there are some similarities to Buddhism. Although a lot of people that call themselves Christians forget the whole love others part. Good intentions, but have gone astray, yup the Jedi sound like a lot of Christians I know. lol
I agree with you about the Knights Templar part. If you look at the downfall of the Knights Templar there are certainly parallels. They had become far politicized, wealthy and corrupt. They'd also totally lost sight of their purpose, which was to defend Pilgrims in the Holy Land.I mean once the Crusades ended, they basically had no purpose except as bankers. Which they were never meant to be.
@@englishlady9797 The Knight Templars maintained their integrity. Unfortunately they accumulated a great deal of wealth by founding a successful international banking system. The French Monarch was aware of their wealth, so King Philip IV successfully deposed their order in France and had the
I think this video has a valid point. Especially considering that there is a lot of information out there that Lucas had drafts for episodes 7-9, in which he planned to explore "the prophecy" deeper, eventually revealing that the whole Skywalkers family actually was "the chosen one" - including Leia, who was destined to rebuild and lead the Republic.
Herll yeah dude. star wars is about the jedi accepting attachments. it makes the later movies make sense. good video