"Drinking is the joy of the Rus, we cannot exist without that pleasure". A little alcohol never hurts, buy us a beer on Patreon: www.patreon.com/KingsandGenerals or Paypal: paypal.me/kingsandgenerals :-)
Make a video on the kannauj triangle of India where Rashtrakuta dyanasty, gujjar-pratihara dyanasty and pala dynasty fought with eachother to control kannauj. Gujjar-pratihara defeated the Arabs, Rashtrakuta build the the kailasha temple and pala were the last Buddhists dyanasty of India.
Amazing video my friend. Have you considered covering the history of the Caucasus? (Specifically Georgia) It is truly a fascinating region that was surrounded by so many influential empires and I believe a lot of people should know more about what really happened behind those mountains.
Vladimir : So we should get a new religion and be trendy like everyone else which one should we chose ? Dimitry : Islam prohibits alchohol Vladimir : Say no more i'm getting us some monks asap
In Christ: jesus drink wines. Lenin was against vodka and try to destroy and shut down the factories of vodka, until stalin restored the vodka factories.
The puppel puppel The only problem with G.R paganism was the insane food needed for their shires. In the early game is manageable but late game is unsustainable
@@davestevens6283 Pretty much why the early Christian church under Paul dropped circumcision and a lot of other stuff - he wanted to make Christianity more appealing to the Roman gentiles and it arguably worked pretty well.
This alcohol thing is a legend, and even if it was true Vladimir meant that drinking is the joy of the Rus as in holidays, feasts etc. Vikings and Slavs always had traditions of feasts with drinking. He didnt mean alcoholism. There was no vodka back then! He means vine beer, and kvass!
@@joek600 bro he said joy. Alcoholism isnt joy. Quite the opposite. Besides before Peter the Great, drinking was not a big deal in Russia, they only drunk beer, kvass and mead on feasts. Besides, once again this is a legend, Vladimir chose Orthodoxy because of trade with the Byzantium, not because they dont outlaw drinking. Its a later invention
Plus, the prohibition of alcohol was often largely ignored among the rich and influential in the various caliphates. Just like many Popes, priests and Cardinals had a multitude of concubines and children. Hypocracy is eternally human.
It is somewhat Ironic: The norsemen spread their conquest and raiding all over the European continent. Yet they always assimilated to the local culture and religion, never staying true to their origins for long. It reminds me of a saying: "Rome conquered Greece with Miltiary Might. But Greece conquered Rome with Culture."
@@Orthas1 i think you got it wrong here. you can't compare vikings with various slav tribes. slaves where more or less in stone age when they met vikings.
@Lo Fi What about Islam? Why do you think the islamic world was ahead of western europe in the middle-ages? It is because muslims took over the traditional centers of civilisation of the middle-east.
@@Orthas1 Nope. They were ahead due to the lack of book burning. That and all those inner curch feuds. I mean seriously, they had 3 *flavors* of Christianity to choose from.
@@hegel5816 yeah as a muslim that doesnt work. Trying to make sure everyone makes the same amount of money is useless. We believe that Some are more fortunate than others because of what God gave them and all we can do is take care of the less fortunate
@@hegel5816 may I ask where did it prevail ? Last time I checked The USSR is gone and the Warsaw pact is no more , China is a fascist capitalist dictatorship and is communist in name only ? Yet Islam as a faith is still here . Edit: yes Islam is at one of its lowest points now but still existent nevertheless.
Even if Vladimir choose Orthodox faith becasue of pragmatism the story told of his conversion is still mostly true. Judaism was unimpressive because Jews were scattered and had no country of their own. Islam as a religion have harsh rules, and Slavs as a people love to be free of rules most of the time. Latin Christianity was nicer option, but when you compared it to Orthodox Christianity... I mean, just imagine the face of two envoys once they entered Hagia Sophia, saw all the icons on the walls and hearing Byzantine Chant. Anyone would be mesmerized and impressed by that, even today a small Orthodox Church is much more impressive and beautiful inside than the grand Latin Cathedral. And the Cyrillic alphabet helped a lot in that regard.
@Dick Kickem in his eyes, all of the choices worshipped the same god at the end of the day. So at that point, it was all about which one he liked most and that he knew his people would be the most accepting of. And Orthodox Christianity did seem to be pretty lenient compared to the other choices.
Dick Kickem Read about realpolitik. Kingdom building is all about gaining and retaining power in this life, not taking responsibility for the next. The Bible tells you how to get to heaven, not the way the heavens go.
Religion is about power and influence, not about "researching the inner truth" or whatever the fuck. Rulers then operated based on what was real about religion, and your equivalent would be some peasant in a village who actually believed
I'm actually curious if the envoys actually reached Rome, because I'm pretty sure the churches there would be more grand then the ones in the Frankish territories.
@Dick Kickem There isn't any truth in this world. Reality is only inside your mind and you can only experience it with your defective human senses. Humanity wont be able to understand the base truth for everything ever, and religions are just coping mechanisms to cope with this fact. Only reality is what you want. Only thing to worship is your own truth, gained by your hard earned experiences and experiences you got from the people you look up to. Only reality is the one you perceive from these defective senses. Those defective senses are there so you can get whay you want and what you need to get happy. We wont be able to find the base truth about world because our perceptions, our character and our indviduals are our rights and wrongs. We are our temples and it is a most humble temple because it changes constantly, it doesnt rule the world by a constant set of rules. It changes with every mistake, we make both to ourselves and our loved ones. Its more flexible and more moral. Because what is moral before in middle ages cant be moral today, but a flexible persons morality can be moral at any time at any circumstance because it is INTENTIONAL. It isnt a trade to go to heaven, that person act moral because he/she really has a conscience.
What history of Ukraine and Belarus? This state was made by communist after they killed Tsar Nikolay 2 in 1917. under Lenin and 12 more state of one great Russian state ruled by Romanov's. Oukraine on Russians mean borderd land, same as in Serbian Krajina means, border lands, not country...
@@galicije83О, ещё один с промытыми мозгам)) In Slavic languages 'kraj' means also means 'land', 'state', 'country', 'region' etc. For instance: Polish 'Armia Krajowa' (Army of State), Slovak 'Bratislavský kraj' (Bratislava region), Středočeský kraj - literally 'center Czech lands' - the Prague district. It's pretty obvious that the central, core part of country where the capital placed doesn't mean 'borderland'. In Ukrainian 'kraj' means 'country', a known Ukrainian motto 'nasha kraina - Ukraina' means 'our country is Ukraine'.
@@Sidramsit1111 Ukraine it means in Russian "on the border", it is not a real nation, the Poles in the 19th century when they invented the "Ukraine project" to separate Malorussia from Russia. It is a Germanic and ideological vision of the nation where the language is the vector which makes it possible to justify the birth of a nation ex-nihilo, as was the case for Prussia when it founded modern Germany on the debris. of the Habsburg Empire ............ The second project is the Bolshevik project of 1922, because it is the Bolsheviks who founded modern Ukraine and who impose the Ukrainian language on the peoples living within the borders defined by Lenin. From the fifties, the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic succeeded in making all these peoples live together and the Soviet propaganda which took up the myth of the Ukrainian people explains that the latter is a brother people of the Russian people ...... .... The third project is the postmodern project, and it is the one that the West has supported. It starts from the principle that peoples have no historical existence. The Ukrainian people are neither banderists, nor descendants of glorious Rus' or of the Soviet Union, they are recreating themselves every day. This post-modern vision is defended in France by Raphaël Gluksman or Jacques Attali, it concerns the Ukrainian people as well as the French or Russian people. Of course, we don't make revolutions with these people, so Maidan and the West relied on the neo-Nazis, whom they have trouble getting rid of today. ...... the Bolsheviks who founded modern Ukraine and who impose the Ukrainian language on the peoples living within the borders defined by Lenin
Its more like Privet, vodka, balalaika. Some also belive that Russians keep bears instead of dogs on the leash at home and that at least on in every 3 Russians is a mafia
Man, that mass baptism must've been quite the ordeal lol. I had heard a little bit about Vladimir before this video, but I learned a lot here. Thank you! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends! :)
@@Christian_-mt6dd Hey Buddy, my background is Celtic, I'm not from the Balkans not any part of Eastern / Sth Europe so I don't have a horse in this race ... But I do study History & from what I've learned is that Albanian DNA originates from the Mongolian steppe & also mixed with Turkic peoples surrounding regions ... That is Not an insult or put down - If you interpret it as such, that is your issue - actually kind of sad, because Mongols are good people.
This video contains two very unpleasant mistakes about Slavs, Bulgarians, and Bulgarian history. 1. Old Church Slavonic language known also as Old Bulgarian is not based on west Slavic dialects, but on the south ones. St. Cyril and St. Methodius were Byzantine subjects from Thessaloniki who according to some historians learned Slavic language from the local south Slavs on the Thessaloniki's market, but there is speculation that their mother was from Slavic origin and that the Slavic language was their mother tongue. Their mission to the Great Moravia was unsuccessful and they didn't manage to influence the West Slavs very much. After the Christianization of Rus', and especially after the fall of Bulgaria under Ottoman rule. as mentioned in the video, many Bulgarian scholars went to Russia and greatly influenced the East Slavic dialects. This is one of the reasons modern Bulgarian and Russian languages to be lexically much closer to each other than to the West Slavic languages, despite they also being from different branches of the Slavic languages. 2. Despite the Bulgars who found the Bulgarian statehood to be a Turkik tribe, their subjects were predominantly Slavic. In this way, the Turkik Bulgars in the Bulgarian history are analogous to the Rus' Varangians in Russian history. They were just a ruling elite among the mainly Slavic population, who gave the name of the state. For that reason when the St. Cyril and St. Methodius disciples arrived in the First Bulgarian Empire under the rule of Prince Boris, the Slavic language was a natural fit for the official language of the state along with the fact that there was a need to limit the greek influence. Most probably back then there already had some intermixing between the Bulgars and the local Slavs, but with the acceptance of Christianity and adopting of the Slavic language as the official language of the state, the Bulgars were completely melded into the Slavs. From here we can make the conclusion that despite we the modern Bulgarians, like every other modern nation, are a mixture of different tribes from different origins, the Slavic component in us is the most strong one, and we are not just a Turkik tribe who accepted the Slavic culture as our own as the video suggests.
@@Stargazer86m maybe it was both, Vladamir the Great has a famous quote where he said "Give food honey and Kvass after Baptism rituals" he most likely gave out mead and other things too, what a party 😊
@@ZergleJerk I made home ade kvass once too, but when I followed the instructions and let it sit for as long as it said it was too sour so I didn't like it, I made it again but only let it sit for a day and a half, and it tasted better in my opinion
For a long time Russia has wanted the city of Constantinople. They have been waiting patiently (sort of) but I feel like in the next 150 years they will have it along with the black sea as their own personal lake.
@ᴇᴢᴇᴄʀɪs 305 I work on a cruise ship and I have many colleagues from Ukraine,Russia,Belarus etc....and that's how I had friends with the same name but different spelling as they came from different Slavic countries.
OCS was based on a South Slavic dialect, not the local Moravian dialects, and the reason Bulgarians speak a Slavic language today is not because OCS was introduced as a lithurgical language to Bulgaria, but because there were Slavic tribes that had settled in the Balkans whose language became the South Slavic dialect continuum.
@@LiveYourLifeWithJoy That's what I'm saying. OCS is liturgical Old Bulgarian, which was a South Slavic dialect, not a Moravian (West Slavic) one, as suggested in the video.
I still can't believe how we are to be able to watch your episodes for free!!! Because just the amount of details and animation you guys put out every episode just blows my mind every time!! Thank you for another great episode!!!
@@KingsandGenerals Christianity is a fake religion ,so is islam white people have no culture they have lost their culture after they spread the plague religion Christianity, Christianity only inflicted pain and killed thousands ,islam and Christianity must cease to exist
@@gymrat5014 istanbul is a Greek word meaning ‘inside the city’. Ottomans kept the city’s name Constantinople from the moment they entered it until World War 1.
No anymore. I has gone to ashes. The last pride has fallen, the hagia sophia. The fall of byzantine was the fruit of disharmony among the christian kingdom back then
Just made my afternoon coffee, and see that K&G uploaded new video on Rus history. Best type of coffee break ;) Superb animations, great and historically accurate story telling, fantastic job. Thank you very much gentlemen!
Thank you "Kings and Generals" for answering a question I asked in a previous video! This is a very important video which reveals an important part of the Rus history!
Basil:Damn those Rus! they raided our territory again and now we have lost one of our city in Crimea 😱 *Few moments later...* Vladimir: hello, i heard you have a sister who is not married yet. if you are not give her to me, i shall sail to constantinople on my next raid 😈 Basil: wait, what?!?...well...this is against our rules. because we don't let marriage our royalty towards barbarians like you, plus your kinds are not even orthodox christian 😓 Vladimir: ok, look...im willing to convert myself to orthodox christian if you let me marry your sister 😏 Basil:Hmmm...if you willing to provide me with any of your best warriors you have, ill let you marry my sister.🙄 Vladimir: Ok, No problem 🤝😁 Basil: 🤝 *handshakes nervously* 😌
@@martytu20 the Emperor Basil II is also a chad or possible a thrad. Remember when Basil II come to see bulgars he can see them, when bulgars come and to see Basil II they can't see him.
Nice video once again. 1) 9:50 You forgot to mention that Pope tried first to christianise slavs but he failed because he wanted for political reason to impose latin language in their mass. Τhen Rus asked greeks to teach them the new faith. Greeks were more flexible and didn't care about politics but of peoples' enlightment. This is something presented clearly by Basil's Β' requests over Vladimir. 2) 10:50 You have a fantastic figure of Olga in a church surrounded with sculptures which is also unorthodox. In addition such sculptures with halo (nimbus) in saints' heads don't exist in latin world either. 3) 13:47 A comment on why greeks allowed a marriage with a former barbarian in order to get the honor of roman descent and declined a similar offer of Frankish Charlomagne almost two centuries before.
You could do a video about Christianization of Poland and it's first historical rulers - Mieszko I and Bolesław I the Great. ;-) There is no bigger material about it in English on RUclips yet. It is intresting and important story but largely unknown in the West. 🇵🇱
@@impaugjuldivmax And that too. And that too. For example, the Poles built wooden idols, which is typical of the Baltic paganism. This was not the case in Rus.
Russia didn't exist during middle ages! I also love imaginary fairytales from Kremlin but thinking that it was history would require that my IQ to he in single digits.
@@oscaralegre3683 When you say "Kyivan Rus", it automatically implies that there is some other Rus besides Kyiv, can you tell me what other Rus there was??? Calling Rus a modern Russia is on par calling Rome a modern Romania! I have heard bunch of pseudo Kremlin history and you aren't the first one to parrot Kremlin nor you will be the last.
@@Olena.Osilo75 its obvious what the word Kyivan means, but you mentioned Russia, that's why. And romanians don't descend from ancient romans, but russian do descend from kyivan rus
@@oscaralegre3683 LOL! Again you got stuck on "Kyivan Rus", what is the other Rus??? Or do you have deficiency in communication? Rus and Russia have nothing in common, just like Romania takes her name from Rome, Russia takes from Rus. How in your world Russia descends from Rus? Rome and Romania have more in common than Rus and Russia; yet in your logic somehow it makes sense? I know it's hard for folks like you to drop Kremlin's propaganda and think with clear mind but you can try.
Vladamir would have converted to "Catholic" Christianity as "Orthodox" being something separate from "Catholic" Christianity was not yet a thing ... but for the sake of modern understanding we know what the author means. By "Orthodox" he means Eastern Byzantine Catholic Christianity ... in contrast to Western "Roman Catholic" Christianity. Though the great schism was already in the making by this time - if the Eastern Churches were not yet out of communion with the Pope of Rome, then there was no "Eastern Orthodox" Church yet as we understand it today. Only the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of all time. Byzantine Catholics, Syrian Catholics, Roman Catholics, Egyptian Catholics, Christians of all color, creed, backgrounds, and cultures. Amen and Glory to Jesus Christ!
Syrian Christians are not Catholics you idiot. I am a Syrian Orthodox Christian, and Portuguese invaded us and made us Catholics. Before that we were an independent Oriental Orthodox church. Also, Catholic Church is not the one true church. Orthodoxy was still then, as Vladimir of Rus converted after the East-West schism.
The distinction is important. But it’s also important to remember that Orthodox sees itself as the one holy Catholic and apostolic church as well. The church doesn’t need the pope to be Catholic
Ahistorical and biased take. Orthodox will claim the exact same thing and say that England was Orthodox until 1066, or that the Pope was also Orthodox. They also claim the title of One Holy Catholic and Apostolic. The reality is that Russia chose what would become the Eastern Church and rejected what was to be the Western "Roman Catholic Church:.
@@dewd9327 Not ahistorical per se. Both claim to be the Catholic Church of the first millennium and both have some valid claims for it. I’m Eastern Orthodox based on their evidence for being the church of the first millennium.
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This is the best religion selection process I have ever seen. I think those alphabet-inventor brothers played an important role. There was no way Vatikan to agree on translation of the book or worshiping in your mother tongue.
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Yes, Islam was already out-out-out of the equation it seems. I wish more leaders act like Vlad: Evidence based decision making!
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@@agentopaque3776 you have a good point! But I still think Vlad's story is much better :)
Even more important than having good relationships with other monotheist realms and merchants, was having an administrator class that could help you manage a rather large feudal realm with the help of accounting and a widespread communications network. Additionally this hierarchically organized network had a huge influence on peoples lives in a way that military presence or administrators didn't. Many historians think that, for 'tribal' societies, these were the most attractive aspects of converting to Islam or Christianity.
@@spaceman7866 Friend, and you are not surprised that the Rus originated in the North in Staraya Ladoga, not in Kiev, you are not surprised that all the princes came in from the North, you are not surprised that the word "Ukraine" not as in tune with the word Rus, are you not surprised that there is not a single historical document confirming that the Rus originated in Ukraine or in Kiev, and at the end, you will not be surprised that the term "Kievan Rus" never existed, there was only Rus. Since the term "Kievan Rus" appeared in the first half of the XIX century to indicate the time period of centralized power in Rus. Lol)))
@@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR So by the same logic Rome isnt part of Italian history? No Ukrainians living in Kyiv until 20th century is a very stupid statement. Yes the country didnt yet exist but the nationality and ethnicity did. Ukrainian culture and language didnt just appear out of thin air when several Ukrainian republics briefly formed in 1917. Ukrainian is simply a modern term that does mean borderland (but the Netherlands is also just called the Northern Lands so doesnt mean they do not have a nationality). Ukrainian ethnicity as we know today derives from Gaelic and Ruthenian cultures that were suppressed during the reigns of Russian tsars. The distinctive social roles for groups such as the Cossacks date much further back. Point being is that this is Ukrainian history and Russian history. Kyiv is called the mother of all Slavic cities for a reason.
Damn, the quality of this video is amazing, i watch all your vids but cant recall this quality of animation and everything.. your channel will become truly great at this rate man, thanks for your effort.
@@ontheline3077 I am happy to hear this, but we in Bulgaria don't know that. This year on 24 May in Russian embassy in Sofia there was exhibits about history of Cyrillic and the word Bulgaria was carefully removed. I am agreed that our politics are idiots, but I was hoping that Russian have some wisdom.
So that's how the Varangian guard came to be. Fascinating. It's always interesting how a small incident such as defeating a rebellion can lead to the creation of something which would become so famous throughout history.
From memory or served as it allowed a better monopoly on trade, they could trade with both the west (Christian) and the east/south (Islamic ) without major repercussions from either side against the other.
That's because the Khazars were infiltrators and schemers and had no interest in nations or cultures other than their own greed. They were nomadic and moved all over Southern Europe scheming and forming cliques to monopolize trade and extort from those around them
vladimir was not impressed about islam... " there is no gladness among them only sorrow and a great stench their religion is not a good one " right on point.
SpyrosKos10 Cause it’s the Roman-Bulgar or Byzantine-Bulgar Wars Simple as that. The Soldiers, Emperors And Commanders who fought the Bolghars/Bulgarians weren’t just Greeks. Nikephoros who got his skull taken was literally a Ghassanid Arab, Romanos Naval Commander Turned Emperor Lekapenos who made peace with Peter was Armenian. The Soldiers were also multiethnic as the height of the Wars under Syemon made the Empire bring Troops not just from Greece and Western Anatolia But from the Eastern Themes in Eastern Anatolia And Western Armenia. Foderarti from the Serbs and Turkic Mercenaries from the Pechenengs/Cumans also formed contingents in the army. And in the Final War against Samuel The Norse Rus Varangian Guard fought under Basil ii. So yes Greco-Bulgar Wars a name no academic uses is pretty cringe.
I'd love to see a video on the conversion of the Anglo Saxons, the two fold missionary works of St. Aidan of Lindisfarne in the north & St. Augustine of Canterbury in the south.
@@adamrules01 500 years? That's stretching it man, their conversions take place throughout the 7th-8th centuries & by the time of the sack at Lindisfarne they are Christianized to the point of seeing Vikings as Pagan Heathens. Your suggestion of 500 years would have them quasi-pagan well into 12th or even 13th century. The assertion of all the Anglo Saxon kings being bribed runs contrary to the sources we have as well.
@@adamrules01 lol ...no one workship fictional characters like Odin or thor...they forced entire europe to do human SACRIFICE and war...thank u jesus without u ...europe will be living in cave a beard man called jesus even portraited even in first church in jersulem and Turkey...they dont know anything about nordic religion
I swear Kings and Generals either is a mind reader to exactly the specific history I am currently interested in, or we both just have our pulse on what the public wants :)
Congratulations for your channel Kings and Generals. Showing sides of history unknown to most people in the western world while being as objective AND entertaining as possible . You are real historians
At the time there was no difference between Orthodox and Catholic Christianity that exists today. There was one Church and difference was liturgical, there was a Latin rite and Eastern rite. It's important to keep that in mind.
Coming from Belarus (Where the Polotsk Chiefdom was), it's funny how the narrator uses the Variangian names while we studied the Slavic names of Rahvalod and Rahneda. These territories were truly an international melting pot of cultures. Yet modern Governments try to enforce monogamous culture and overwrite history for us.
I just hope K&G will stay free to watch in the future. Their videos have improved so much, now with 3d animations. Great work, and great infographics. K&G have surely opened my mind to the vast and historical world we live in. Thanks and keep it up.
@@shalaby8968 they ruled them that long. before that cumans, kipchaks and bulghars were kicking slav ass. not to mention, norsemenn kicked their asses since then
And then its one of most profitable trade ever. Just traveling with an army but get A Princess, gold from sacking city, tribute from defeating rebel, And Faith also culture. *FLAWLESS PLAN*
@@tahagi7006 Even so, you'd have to admit that's not usually how the whole "conversion" thing works. A militarily victorious culture doesn't typically convert to the religion of their enemy. Why should they? Their own gods have brought them victory, while those of the enemy were too weak to protect them.
The quality of the Kings and Generals' videos is getting so good day by day, that it is quite possible (and I do expect this happens someday) that this channel starts making historical animated series in the future! Have you guys ever imagined an animated series whose first season is about, for example, the war between Timur and the Ottoman Empire? And the second season being about, for example, the beginning of the Crusades from the Seljuk Turks' point of view? All made by the Kings and Generals? I really do hope it happens! Cheers, K and G!
I absolutely love this channel. Been watching since you had 30,000 subscribers. Keep up the hard work 👍🏾 I would love you to do a series on the Somali-Ottoman 🇸🇴🇹🇷 wars against Ethiopia-Portugal🇪🇹🇵🇹
abdi abdi Lol speaking Somali has nothing to do with this. Secondly you’re telling me the Ottomans and Portuguese didn’t keep accounts of what happened? Don’t be silly.
@@AD-ce6ol yeah but the info is no where near the amount used in the usual kng video so it will either be extremely short or have to include the all the ottoman Portugues war to make it long enough
I like the videos about the lesser known areas/history. Places like Russia and the middle east aren't typically covered in any US history classes. Please keep the lesser known things coming.
"Adopting Slavonic church tongue....which is one of the reasons why arguably Turkic Bulgarians speak a Slavic language today" That's a bit of a strange point to make, church services in catholic Europe were in Latin, those people didn't end up speaking Latin did they? Isn't it more likely that the Turkic Bulgars mixed with another ethnic group that heavily influenced the language over time? Possibly Slavs maybe? Anyway, love the channel, looking forward to the next videos in these series.
Yeah you have a point. Common folk never learned latin by "Sunday church visits" On the other hand Greek church was more liberal related to church tongue.
nemanjasim100 The Huns were the first Turkic tribe to enter the balkan region. At that time its name wasn’t even Balkan. That name was given to that region by the Ottomans.
You got it wrong about Cyril, Methodus and Old Bulgarian. Cyril and Methodius were Byzantine nobles of Slavic origin, born and raised in Thessaloniki. They based the glagolitsa around the local Slav dialect, which at that point was intelligible to all Southern Slavs and probably also to the Western Slavs, Moravians among them. The Danubian Bulgarians had at that point almost coalesced into the single nation that is modern Bulgarians. It comprised of the Protobulgars, whose origin and language is a highly contested topic still far from being settled, and their Slav allies, which had become more numerous with time, as Bulgaria conquered more lands populated with Slavs. Hence, at the time of Cyril and Methodius, the lingua franca in Bulgaria was a Slavic Language. They didn't adopt the language of the Moravians, it was already there, or at least a mutually intelligible version of Slavic, which at that point had only just begun to branch off in the three big subtrees we have today. Cyril and Methodius' disciples continued the work of the two brothers in Bulgaria, where they invented the new alphabet and called it Cyrillic in honor of their teacher. Old Church Slavonic was simply the Old Bulgarian from that time, which remained largely unchanged as a lithurgic language, whereas "normal" Bulgarian continued to naturally evolve as all languages do.
8:12 There difference between "Catholic" and "Orthodox" here is only one of language of liturgical rites (Latin vs Greek) and who was considered the chief bishop in that part of the world (Pope of Rome vs Patriarch of Constantinople). There was some competition between the two for converting the Slavs. But they were still at that time both part of the universal Christian church, sharing the same communion and professing the same faith.
The question was not about the primacy of Peter . The eastern patriarch was fine with this concept . But the problem was the Emperor who was in the east involved himself in Church affairs by lobbying who would become the bishop so that he can exercise his influence on the people . This naturally was not welcomed by the Pope and he prepared to put an end to this and the patriarch of the east who kept supporting the Emperor obviously because he was his patron also got involved in this conflict and it resulted in a division.
"Drinking is the joy of the Rus, we cannot exist without that pleasure". A little alcohol never hurts, buy us a beer on Patreon: www.patreon.com/KingsandGenerals or Paypal: paypal.me/kingsandgenerals :-)
Make a video on the kannauj triangle of India where Rashtrakuta dyanasty, gujjar-pratihara dyanasty and pala dynasty fought with eachother to control kannauj. Gujjar-pratihara defeated the Arabs, Rashtrakuta build the the kailasha temple and pala were the last Buddhists dyanasty of India.
I thought about a Caesar video but this is also welcome.
I thought Patreon is a monthly subscription, ya? I think Kings and Generals might be an alcoholic.
@@nietzschesno-things523 not yet
Amazing video my friend. Have you considered covering the history of the Caucasus? (Specifically Georgia) It is truly a fascinating region that was surrounded by so many influential empires and I believe a lot of people should know more about what really happened behind those mountains.
"Vladimir wasn't impressed by Judaism, pithily asking why a people exiled from their homeland could be a model to follow"
OUCH. Right on the feels!
I must admit that I would think that way as well if I was him.
Now there is Israel
@@juliuscaesar8925 Israel will not last
@@juliuscaesar8925 israel was made out of pitty.
Roble Yusuf lol Israel has Nukes and Mossad. They will bury all who try to eradicate them. You can continue crying now lol
Vladimir : So we should get a new religion and be trendy like everyone else which one should we chose ?
Dimitry : Islam prohibits alchohol
Vladimir : Say no more i'm getting us some monks asap
@Dani Al when the country is as crazy as Russia when people hardly to be happy, yeah alcoholism is normal
In Christ: jesus drink wines. Lenin was against vodka and try to destroy and shut down the factories of vodka, until stalin restored the vodka factories.
@@Brandonhayhew wow did lenin seriously do that?
@@juancarlosdegoya2757 we also had alcohol banned during late perestroika
@@Rusler86rus interesting, was there a certain cause for it?
Converts to Greek Christianity.
*instant +5% research rate
whats that? age of empires 2 ? lol
Total war attila memories
That was such a useless bonus.
@@roborovskihamster5425 always converted back to G/R-pagainism. Best religion is in my opinion eastern Christianity.
The puppel puppel The only problem with G.R paganism was the insane food needed for their shires. In the early game is manageable but late game is unsustainable
Moral of the story: never insult anyone, they might show up at your doorsteps with a viking army
"He died a natural death." What an unusual event!
Lol on this Channel so true!
The Marie Kondo method of choosing a faith:
"Does this religion spark joy?"
haha
Well, circumcision probably has something to do with it....
It's like he rejected Judaism, Islam, and Catholicism because they were boring to him.
@@Isildun9 how it should be!!
@@davestevens6283 Pretty much why the early Christian church under Paul dropped circumcision and a lot of other stuff - he wanted to make Christianity more appealing to the Roman gentiles and it arguably worked pretty well.
This alcohol thing is a legend, and even if it was true Vladimir meant that drinking is the joy of the Rus as in holidays, feasts etc. Vikings and Slavs always had traditions of feasts with drinking. He didnt mean alcoholism. There was no vodka back then! He means vine beer, and kvass!
И ещё медовуха
@@Alexei-s2l в точку!
@@joek600 bro he said joy. Alcoholism isnt joy. Quite the opposite. Besides before Peter the Great, drinking was not a big deal in Russia, they only drunk beer, kvass and mead on feasts. Besides, once again this is a legend, Vladimir chose Orthodoxy because of trade with the Byzantium, not because they dont outlaw drinking. Its a later invention
Plus, the prohibition of alcohol was often largely ignored among the rich and influential in the various caliphates. Just like many Popes, priests and Cardinals had a multitude of concubines and children. Hypocracy is eternally human.
no! he meant vodka too, without knowing it!
Basil II: asks the Rus to convert
Vladimir: I'm already four parallel dimensions ahead of you
*parallel universes. No such thing as parallel dimensions :)
@@TheChronoLegion Time is parallel to anti-time. Ha!
@@IpostedaCoDvideoonce lmfao well played
@@TheChronoLegion do you even meme boy?
Excellent comment thread. 🎉
It is somewhat Ironic:
The norsemen spread their conquest and raiding all over the European continent.
Yet they always assimilated to the local culture and religion, never staying true to their origins for long.
It reminds me of a saying: "Rome conquered Greece with Miltiary Might. But Greece conquered Rome with Culture."
Yeah wow almost like that's pretty much what happened to all warring tribal societies.
The same pattern repeats practically everywhere, every time a less civiliced people take over their more civiliced neighbours.
@@Orthas1 i think you got it wrong here. you can't compare vikings with various slav tribes. slaves where more or less in stone age when they met vikings.
@Lo Fi What about Islam? Why do you think the islamic world was ahead of western europe in the middle-ages? It is because muslims took over the traditional centers of civilisation of the middle-east.
@@Orthas1 Nope. They were ahead due to the lack of book burning.
That and all those inner curch feuds. I mean seriously, they had 3 *flavors* of Christianity to choose from.
Normal people go shopping for groceries. Vladimir went shopping for religion.
that's actually pretty normal in America at least
ANd he's now in Hell.
@@einarabelc5 nah
@@einarabelc5Why would he be in hell?
Shout out to Oleg, the first Muddy Waters fan.
Oh he has an leg
@Marius Holmberts As the video said, perhaps he wasn't the one who ordered the killing.
Don’t you mean Muddy Heights? 😂
😆😆😆
Are we talking blues artist muddy waters?
To think that if it were not for Vodka, all of Russia may be Islamic today
@@hegel5816 Scary...
@@hegel5816 yeah as a muslim that doesnt work. Trying to make sure everyone makes the same amount of money is useless. We believe that Some are more fortunate than others because of what God gave them and all we can do is take care of the less fortunate
hahahahahaha.
@@hegel5816 may I ask where did it prevail ? Last time I checked The USSR is gone and the Warsaw pact is no more , China is a fascist capitalist dictatorship and is communist in name only ? Yet Islam as a faith is still here .
Edit: yes Islam is at one of its lowest points now but still existent nevertheless.
@@normalguyhere9158 or you just take it. Like Hagia Sophia!
Even if Vladimir choose Orthodox faith becasue of pragmatism the story told of his conversion is still mostly true.
Judaism was unimpressive because Jews were scattered and had no country of their own.
Islam as a religion have harsh rules, and Slavs as a people love to be free of rules most of the time.
Latin Christianity was nicer option, but when you compared it to Orthodox Christianity...
I mean, just imagine the face of two envoys once they entered Hagia Sophia, saw all the icons on the walls and hearing Byzantine Chant.
Anyone would be mesmerized and impressed by that, even today a small Orthodox Church is much more impressive and beautiful inside than the grand Latin Cathedral.
And the Cyrillic alphabet helped a lot in that regard.
@Dick Kickem in his eyes, all of the choices worshipped the same god at the end of the day. So at that point, it was all about which one he liked most and that he knew his people would be the most accepting of. And Orthodox Christianity did seem to be pretty lenient compared to the other choices.
Dick Kickem Read about realpolitik. Kingdom building is all about gaining and retaining power in this life, not taking responsibility for the next. The Bible tells you how to get to heaven, not the way the heavens go.
Religion is about power and influence, not about "researching the inner truth" or whatever the fuck. Rulers then operated based on what was real about religion, and your equivalent would be some peasant in a village who actually believed
I'm actually curious if the envoys actually reached Rome, because I'm pretty sure the churches there would be more grand then the ones in the Frankish territories.
@Dick Kickem There isn't any truth in this world. Reality is only inside your mind and you can only experience it with your defective human senses. Humanity wont be able to understand the base truth for everything ever, and religions are just coping mechanisms to cope with this fact.
Only reality is what you want. Only thing to worship is your own truth, gained by your hard earned experiences and experiences you got from the people you look up to. Only reality is the one you perceive from these defective senses. Those defective senses are there so you can get whay you want and what you need to get happy. We wont be able to find the base truth about world because our perceptions, our character and our indviduals are our rights and wrongs. We are our temples and it is a most humble temple because it changes constantly, it doesnt rule the world by a constant set of rules. It changes with every mistake, we make both to ourselves and our loved ones. Its more flexible and more moral. Because what is moral before in middle ages cant be moral today, but a flexible persons morality can be moral at any time at any circumstance because it is INTENTIONAL. It isnt a trade to go to heaven, that person act moral because he/she really has a conscience.
Whoever did the animations for this is absolutely brilliant
Easily one of the greatest animation for a history channel.
Yeah they are crazy good
Russian: "how great the foreigners showed the history of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.👍"
Foreigners in comments: "vodka, vodka, vodka, vladimir putin
теперь фраза Задорнова не кажется такой уж и чушью
What history of Ukraine and Belarus? This state was made by communist after they killed Tsar Nikolay 2 in 1917. under Lenin and 12 more state of one great Russian state ruled by Romanov's. Oukraine on Russians mean borderd land, same as in Serbian Krajina means, border lands, not country...
@@galicije83О, ещё один с промытыми мозгам)) In Slavic languages 'kraj' means also means 'land', 'state', 'country', 'region' etc. For instance: Polish 'Armia Krajowa' (Army of State), Slovak 'Bratislavský kraj' (Bratislava region), Středočeský kraj - literally 'center Czech lands' - the Prague district. It's pretty obvious that the central, core part of country where the capital placed doesn't mean 'borderland'.
In Ukrainian 'kraj' means 'country', a known Ukrainian motto 'nasha kraina - Ukraina' means 'our country is Ukraine'.
@@Sidramsit1111 Ukraine it means in Russian "on the border", it is not a real nation,
the Poles in the 19th century when they invented the "Ukraine project" to separate Malorussia from Russia. It is a Germanic and ideological vision of the nation where the language is the vector which makes it possible to justify the birth of a nation ex-nihilo, as was the case for Prussia when it founded modern Germany on the debris. of the Habsburg Empire ............
The second project is the Bolshevik project of 1922, because it is the Bolsheviks who founded modern Ukraine and who impose the Ukrainian language on the peoples living within the borders defined by Lenin.
From the fifties, the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic succeeded in making all these peoples live together and the Soviet propaganda which took up the myth of the Ukrainian people explains that the latter is a brother people of the Russian people ...... ....
The third project is the postmodern project, and it is the one that the West has supported. It starts from the principle that peoples have no historical existence. The Ukrainian people are neither banderists, nor descendants of glorious Rus' or of the Soviet Union, they are recreating themselves every day. This post-modern vision is defended in France by Raphaël Gluksman or Jacques Attali, it concerns the Ukrainian people as well as the French or Russian people. Of course, we don't make revolutions with these people, so Maidan and the West relied on the neo-Nazis, whom they have trouble getting rid of today. ......
the Bolsheviks who founded modern Ukraine and who impose the Ukrainian language on the peoples living within the borders defined by Lenin
Its more like Privet, vodka, balalaika. Some also belive that Russians keep bears instead of dogs on the leash at home and that at least on in every 3 Russians is a mafia
The fact that both the presidents of Ukraine and Russia are named after this guy is one of those weird coincidences that is honestly fascinating.
Or maybe it’s not a coincidence 🕵🏻♀️
@@themeek3624 or maybe it's a really common name
@@qct101Not maybe
@@rolandlao7527 What do you think, the cosmos is trolling us?
I don't think they are? Vladimir is a Slavic name that means someone with great power, it's not exclusive to this ruler.
Man, that mass baptism must've been quite the ordeal lol. I had heard a little bit about Vladimir before this video, but I learned a lot here. Thank you!
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends! :)
Glad you are continuing the Slavic origin videos, looking forward to seeing balkan Slavic videos
Me too!
Balkan slavic origins are in the caves of Russia, they dont belong in the balkans.
@@Christian_-mt6dd Your Albanian origins are in Mongolia ... You are MONGOL-Turkic
@@hardrada8637 that's funny, our dna says otherwise. Imagine being that jealous of someone ethnicity that u gotta lie lmao.
@@Christian_-mt6dd Hey Buddy, my background is Celtic, I'm not from the Balkans not any part of Eastern / Sth Europe so I don't have a horse in this race ... But I do study History & from what I've learned is that Albanian DNA originates from the Mongolian steppe & also mixed with Turkic peoples surrounding regions
... That is Not an insult or put down - If you interpret it as such, that is your issue - actually kind of sad, because Mongols are good people.
This video contains two very unpleasant mistakes about Slavs, Bulgarians, and Bulgarian history.
1. Old Church Slavonic language known also as Old Bulgarian is not based on west Slavic dialects, but on the south ones. St. Cyril and St. Methodius were Byzantine subjects from Thessaloniki who according to some historians learned Slavic language from the local south Slavs on the Thessaloniki's market, but there is speculation that their mother was from Slavic origin and that the Slavic language was their mother tongue. Their mission to the Great Moravia was unsuccessful and they didn't manage to influence the West Slavs very much. After the Christianization of Rus', and especially after the fall of Bulgaria under Ottoman rule. as mentioned in the video, many Bulgarian scholars went to Russia and greatly influenced the East Slavic dialects. This is one of the reasons modern Bulgarian and Russian languages to be lexically much closer to each other than to the West Slavic languages, despite they also being from different branches of the Slavic languages.
2. Despite the Bulgars who found the Bulgarian statehood to be a Turkik tribe, their subjects were predominantly Slavic. In this way, the Turkik Bulgars in the Bulgarian history are analogous to the Rus' Varangians in Russian history. They were just a ruling elite among the mainly Slavic population, who gave the name of the state. For that reason when the St. Cyril and St. Methodius disciples arrived in the First Bulgarian Empire under the rule of Prince Boris, the Slavic language was a natural fit for the official language of the state along with the fact that there was a need to limit the greek influence. Most probably back then there already had some intermixing between the Bulgars and the local Slavs, but with the acceptance of Christianity and adopting of the Slavic language as the official language of the state, the Bulgars were completely melded into the Slavs. From here we can make the conclusion that despite we the modern Bulgarians, like every other modern nation, are a mixture of different tribes from different origins, the Slavic component in us is the most strong one, and we are not just a Turkik tribe who accepted the Slavic culture as our own as the video suggests.
Very well said.
You should create your own videos, you make more sense. They are as confused as anyone who learns history from top Google search result.
Can you guys recommend a video that is accurate, please?
Random King converts to Christianity.
Christian historians: Randomir, THE GREAT!!!
Exact same thing with Constantine the Great
I do believe that there are only a few leaders that actually deserve "the Great" moniker.
@@budakbaongsiah maybe like Alexander the Great and Cyrus the Great
Right, because no other culture has done the same
@@juliuscaesar8925 Alfred the Great. Showed those heathens what's what.
Every video is so well made, and it make my day
thx guys :)
Agreed
I heard Vladamir also gave out Honey and Kvass after baptisms, Slavs love their Kvass
I do not like kvas, not sure what's wrong with me, but I'm southern Slav. And it was not Honey, but Mead. ;)
@@Stargazer86m maybe it was both, Vladamir the Great has a famous quote where he said "Give food honey and Kvass after Baptism rituals" he most likely gave out mead and other things too, what a party 😊
I made my own Kvass once. I didn't get sick and die, so I think I did it right. Some guy in a ski mask named Boris taught me.
(I'm not joking.)
@@ZergleJerk I made home ade kvass once too, but when I followed the instructions and let it sit for as long as it said it was too sour so I didn't like it, I made it again but only let it sit for a day and a half, and it tasted better in my opinion
@@juancarlosdegoya2757
It's a eastern slavic thing, it's not actually a thing for southern slavs :)
Byzantium be like: here’s Christianity
Russians 1000 years later: time to retake Constantinople
HAHAHAHA
@Proud Muslim Never say forever proud Muslim, never say forever or never, careful with those words.
For a long time Russia has wanted the city of Constantinople. They have been waiting patiently (sort of) but I feel like in the next 150 years they will have it along with the black sea as their own personal lake.
Istanbul will always be ours, and soon we will retake Palestine for the third time 😉
@@ahmeds7345 Dreams and big-mouthed comments typed on Internet are for free.
As a fellow Vladimir, I approve!
E kad ti odobravas onda je sve lakse. :D
WildBone Dakako 😆
I have friends with names
Vladimir
Vlodimir
Volodymyr
Waldemar
Vlado
😂 I call everyone Vladimir!
@ᴇᴢᴇᴄʀɪs 305 from India
@ᴇᴢᴇᴄʀɪs 305 I work on a cruise ship and I have many colleagues from Ukraine,Russia,Belarus etc....and that's how I had friends with the same name but different spelling as they came from different Slavic countries.
OCS was based on a South Slavic dialect, not the local Moravian dialects, and the reason Bulgarians speak a Slavic language today is not because OCS was introduced as a lithurgical language to Bulgaria, but because there were Slavic tribes that had settled in the Balkans whose language became the South Slavic dialect continuum.
@@LiveYourLifeWithJoy
That's what I'm saying. OCS is liturgical Old Bulgarian, which was a South Slavic dialect, not a Moravian (West Slavic) one, as suggested in the video.
Norway: I have decided to screw Poland's future by making Russia. Hihihi hope they never find out.
@@АлексейП-т2е Paszol won Ruski
@@АлексейП-т2е Dont listen to Putins propaganda. No one wants poor, impoverished Belarus apart of Russia
@@АлексейП-т2е Леша, не реагируй на провокации, тут и так холиваров хватает)))
@@АлексейП-т2е Germany doesn't even want the land anymore lol, why you care
@@АлексейП-т2е Russia has no future. China will take the whole of Siberia. You will become again an irrelevant Duchy of Moscow
I still can't believe how we are to be able to watch your episodes for free!!! Because just the amount of details and animation you guys put out every episode just blows my mind every time!! Thank you for another great episode!!!
Thanks for watching!
@@KingsandGenerals Christianity is a fake religion ,so is islam white people have no culture they have lost their culture after they spread the plague religion Christianity, Christianity only inflicted pain and killed thousands ,islam and Christianity must cease to exist
The Rus: takes over crimea and wants constantinople
Russia:takes over crimea and wants constantinople
Accident I think not.
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
It was the seat of the Roman Empire for over a thousand years.
*Coincidence
Well someoene will take over Constantinople bcs that's a prophecy about end times in Islam
Waleed Iqbal From the tafsirs I’ve read it’s supposed to be the Arabs inshaallah.
Allahu A’lam.
Thanks
Constantinople the cradle of civilazation, the pride of Christendom. ✙
@Raizen Cruer lol why did you write that comment after 1 month xd
Istanbul
@@gymrat5014 istanbul is a Greek word meaning ‘inside the city’.
Ottomans kept the city’s name Constantinople from the moment they entered it until World War 1.
@@alfredthepatientxcvi I know
No anymore.
I has gone to ashes.
The last pride has fallen, the hagia sophia.
The fall of byzantine was the fruit of disharmony among the christian kingdom back then
Just made my afternoon coffee, and see that K&G uploaded new video on Rus history. Best type of coffee break ;)
Superb animations, great and historically accurate story telling, fantastic job.
Thank you very much gentlemen!
Amen!
Thank you "Kings and Generals" for answering a question I asked in a previous video! This is a very important video which reveals an important part of the Rus history!
Basil:Damn those Rus! they raided our territory again and now we have lost one of our city in Crimea 😱
*Few moments later...*
Vladimir: hello, i heard you have a sister who is not married yet. if you are not give her to me, i shall sail to constantinople on my next raid 😈
Basil: wait, what?!?...well...this is against our rules. because we don't let marriage our royalty towards barbarians like you, plus your kinds are not even orthodox christian 😓
Vladimir: ok, look...im willing to convert myself to orthodox christian if you let me marry your sister 😏
Basil:Hmmm...if you willing to
provide me with any of your best warriors you have, ill let you marry my sister.🙄
Vladimir: Ok, No problem 🤝😁
Basil: 🤝 *handshakes nervously* 😌
You guys must be working overtime nonstop with how much content you guys put out. Hats off!
How Vladimir demands for King Basil's sister 😂😥 love that shit ❤
@@martytu20 the Emperor Basil II is also a chad or possible a thrad. Remember when Basil II come to see bulgars he can see them, when bulgars come and to see Basil II they can't see him.
@T. A. D. *SEE*
mmh
@@martytu20 Chad Charlemagne and Pope Leo III rebuked female rule in no uncertain terms.
Nice video once again.
1) 9:50
You forgot to mention that Pope tried first to christianise slavs but he failed because he wanted for political reason to impose latin language in their mass. Τhen Rus asked greeks to teach them the new faith. Greeks were more flexible and didn't care about politics but of peoples' enlightment. This is something presented clearly by Basil's Β' requests over Vladimir.
2) 10:50
You have a fantastic figure of Olga in a church surrounded with sculptures which is also unorthodox. In addition such sculptures with halo (nimbus) in saints' heads don't exist in latin world either.
3) 13:47
A comment on why greeks allowed a marriage with a former barbarian in order to get the honor of roman descent and declined a similar offer of Frankish Charlomagne almost two centuries before.
Lol people's enlightenment, you're clearly biased.
@@chronikhilesThe rus pagans were fucking stupid in comparison with the roman west and Greek east. This isn't debatable
You could do a video about Christianization of Poland and it's first historical rulers - Mieszko I and Bolesław I the Great. ;-) There is no bigger material about it in English on RUclips yet. It is intresting and important story but largely unknown in the West. 🇵🇱
8:45 Polish are Slavs, so they were practising Slavic religion, not baltic Romuva
In Poland, there was a very strong influence of the Balts.
I thought Poles are Catholic?
@@impaugjuldivmax And that too. And that too. For example, the Poles built wooden idols, which is typical of the Baltic paganism. This was not the case in Rus.
Romuva was pagan religion of Baltic people, of whom today survive Lithuanians and Latvians
@@radziwill7193 Rus slavs build idols, every pagan in europe did, the most famous idol is from the eastern Ukrain around Kiev so Rus at the time
I'm waiting for the next Roman Civil war episode
Me too..
Yeah they are the best episode's
there are soooooo many to choose from.
I love the focus on medieval Russian history. It’s a topic you rarely get to hear about in the states.
Russia didn't exist during middle ages! I also love imaginary fairytales from Kremlin but thinking that it was history would require that my IQ to he in single digits.
@@Olena.Osilo75Kyivan Rus, its what we call modern Russia
@@oscaralegre3683 When you say "Kyivan Rus", it automatically implies that there is some other Rus besides Kyiv, can you tell me what other Rus there was???
Calling Rus a modern Russia is on par calling Rome a modern Romania!
I have heard bunch of pseudo Kremlin history and you aren't the first one to parrot Kremlin nor you will be the last.
@@Olena.Osilo75 its obvious what the word Kyivan means, but you mentioned Russia, that's why. And romanians don't descend from ancient romans, but russian do descend from kyivan rus
@@oscaralegre3683 LOL! Again you got stuck on "Kyivan Rus", what is the other Rus??? Or do you have deficiency in communication?
Rus and Russia have nothing in common, just like Romania takes her name from Rome, Russia takes from Rus. How in your world Russia descends from Rus? Rome and Romania have more in common than Rus and Russia; yet in your logic somehow it makes sense? I know it's hard for folks like you to drop Kremlin's propaganda and think with clear mind but you can try.
It's not a Basil II episode but close enough
I still wait for Kleidonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
No please
Well there it is. They've made one.
Vladamir would have converted to "Catholic" Christianity as "Orthodox" being something separate from "Catholic" Christianity was not yet a thing ... but for the sake of modern understanding we know what the author means. By "Orthodox" he means Eastern Byzantine Catholic Christianity ... in contrast to Western "Roman Catholic" Christianity. Though the great schism was already in the making by this time - if the Eastern Churches were not yet out of communion with the Pope of Rome, then there was no "Eastern Orthodox" Church yet as we understand it today. Only the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of all time. Byzantine Catholics, Syrian Catholics, Roman Catholics, Egyptian Catholics, Christians of all color, creed, backgrounds, and cultures. Amen and Glory to Jesus Christ!
Syrian Christians are not Catholics you idiot. I am a Syrian Orthodox Christian, and Portuguese invaded us and made us Catholics. Before that we were an independent Oriental Orthodox church. Also, Catholic Church is not the one true church. Orthodoxy was still then, as Vladimir of Rus converted after the East-West schism.
The distinction is important. But it’s also important to remember that Orthodox sees itself as the one holy Catholic and apostolic church as well. The church doesn’t need the pope to be Catholic
Ahistorical and biased take. Orthodox will claim the exact same thing and say that England was Orthodox until 1066, or that the Pope was also Orthodox. They also claim the title of One Holy Catholic and Apostolic. The reality is that Russia chose what would become the Eastern Church and rejected what was to be the Western "Roman Catholic Church:.
@@dewd9327 Not ahistorical per se. Both claim to be the Catholic Church of the first millennium and both have some valid claims for it. I’m Eastern Orthodox based on their evidence for being the church of the first millennium.
This is the best religion selection process I have ever seen. I think those alphabet-inventor brothers played an important role. There was no way Vatikan to agree on translation of the book or worshiping in your mother tongue.
Yes, Islam was already out-out-out of the equation it seems. I wish more leaders act like Vlad: Evidence based decision making!
@@agentopaque3776 you have a good point! But I still think Vlad's story is much better :)
Even more important than having good relationships with other monotheist realms and merchants, was having an administrator class that could help you manage a rather large feudal realm with the help of accounting and a widespread communications network. Additionally this hierarchically organized network had a huge influence on peoples lives in a way that military presence or administrators didn't. Many historians think that, for 'tribal' societies, these were the most attractive aspects of converting to Islam or Christianity.
Realpolitik
Interesting
Beautifully done as always. LOVE the production quality and of course subject matter!
God, I love Russian history, it literally reads like something straight out of a mythological text because it's so hardcore. Love this channel!
It is straight out of mythological texts lol
The Primary Chronicle, which is, well, a primary source of early Rus, IS half a mythologized account.
Me too , this channel talks about many obscure topics.
@@spaceman7866 Friend, and you are not surprised that the Rus originated in the North in Staraya Ladoga, not in Kiev, you are not surprised that all the princes came in from the North, you are not surprised that the word "Ukraine" not as in tune with the word Rus, are you not surprised that there is not a single historical document confirming that the Rus originated in Ukraine or in Kiev, and at the end, you will not be surprised that the term "Kievan Rus" never existed, there was only Rus. Since the term "Kievan Rus" appeared in the first half of the XIX century to indicate the time period of centralized power in Rus. Lol)))
@@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR So by the same logic Rome isnt part of Italian history? No Ukrainians living in Kyiv until 20th century is a very stupid statement. Yes the country didnt yet exist but the nationality and ethnicity did. Ukrainian culture and language didnt just appear out of thin air when several Ukrainian republics briefly formed in 1917. Ukrainian is simply a modern term that does mean borderland (but the Netherlands is also just called the Northern Lands so doesnt mean they do not have a nationality). Ukrainian ethnicity as we know today derives from Gaelic and Ruthenian cultures that were suppressed during the reigns of Russian tsars. The distinctive social roles for groups such as the Cossacks date much further back. Point being is that this is Ukrainian history and Russian history. Kyiv is called the mother of all Slavic cities for a reason.
Damn, the quality of this video is amazing, i watch all your vids but cant recall this quality of animation and everything.. your channel will become truly great at this rate man, thanks for your effort.
the animation getting better and better. Appreciate it so much🔥
Great episode. Finally someone mention Bulgarian role in creation of Cyrillic alphabet. We was forgotten.
@@ontheline3077 I am happy to hear this, but we in Bulgaria don't know that. This year on 24 May in Russian embassy in Sofia there was exhibits about history of Cyrillic and the word Bulgaria was carefully removed. I am agreed that our politics are idiots, but I was hoping that Russian have some wisdom.
@@ontheline3077 i hope more people think like you.
"Drinking is the joy of the Rus, we cannot exist without that pleasure."
Vladimir the Great
If I lived in Russia I also would need alcohol to get through the working day
He didnt mean it as alcoholism, he meant like on holidays.
So that's how the Varangian guard came to be. Fascinating. It's always interesting how a small incident such as defeating a rebellion can lead to the creation of something which would become so famous throughout history.
All converting to Christianity or Islam but chazars be like, we convert to Judaism.
Everybody else: Weird flex but OK.
From memory or served as it allowed a better monopoly on trade, they could trade with both the west (Christian) and the east/south (Islamic ) without major repercussions from either side against the other.
@@marioluigi4176 exactly
@@marioluigi4176 lol of course
That's because the Khazars were infiltrators and schemers and had no interest in nations or cultures other than their own greed. They were nomadic and moved all over Southern Europe scheming and forming cliques to monopolize trade and extort from those around them
I really appreciate how the map has a felt texture on it. It's the little things you need to appreciate.
You must be told this!!!! This is an absolutely wonderfully amazing and excellent video on the Rus!!!! EXCELLENT!!!!
This is the first video I've watched from this channel, but it for darn sure will not be the last. Subscribed!
vladimir was not impressed about islam... " there is no gladness among them only sorrow and a great stench their religion is not a good one " right on point.
🤣🤣😂😂👍
the quality of these videos has improved 100-fold
These 3-D animations are awesome
please continiue the series with the greco-bulgar wars
“Greco” Cringe
Yes, please. This needs to happen.
@@tylerellis9097 i cant see a reason why greeks should cringe, neither the bulgar cant "see" either!!!
SpyrosKos10 Cause it’s the Roman-Bulgar or Byzantine-Bulgar Wars Simple as that.
The Soldiers, Emperors And Commanders who fought the Bolghars/Bulgarians weren’t just Greeks. Nikephoros who got his skull taken was literally a Ghassanid Arab, Romanos Naval Commander Turned Emperor Lekapenos who made peace with Peter was Armenian.
The Soldiers were also multiethnic as the height of the Wars under Syemon made the Empire bring Troops not just from Greece and Western Anatolia But from the Eastern Themes in Eastern Anatolia And Western Armenia. Foderarti from the Serbs and Turkic Mercenaries from the Pechenengs/Cumans also formed contingents in the army. And in the Final War against Samuel The Norse Rus Varangian Guard fought under Basil ii.
So yes Greco-Bulgar Wars a name no academic uses is pretty cringe.
@@SpyrosKos10 because its Byzantine, not Greek
I'd love to see a video on the conversion of the Anglo Saxons, the two fold missionary works of St. Aidan of Lindisfarne in the north & St. Augustine of Canterbury in the south.
Are you talking about the tale of the monk of Augustine?
@@juliuscaesar8925 From the Canterbury Tales? No, the Venerable Bede discusses the conversion of his people in his Ecclesiastical History
@@RestingJudge Oh that one yeah that would be cool to see
@@adamrules01 500 years? That's stretching it man, their conversions take place throughout the 7th-8th centuries & by the time of the sack at Lindisfarne they are Christianized to the point of seeing Vikings as Pagan Heathens. Your suggestion of 500 years would have them quasi-pagan well into 12th or even 13th century. The assertion of all the Anglo Saxon kings being bribed runs contrary to the sources we have as well.
@@adamrules01 lol ...no one workship fictional characters like Odin or thor...they forced entire europe to do human SACRIFICE and war...thank u jesus without u ...europe will be living in cave
a beard man called jesus even portraited even in first church in jersulem and Turkey...they dont know anything about nordic religion
I swear Kings and Generals either is a mind reader to exactly the specific history I am currently interested in, or we both just have our pulse on what the public wants :)
Congratulations for your channel Kings and Generals. Showing sides of history unknown to most people in the western world while being as objective AND entertaining as possible . You are real historians
The animations in this episode are stunning. This channel just keeps geting better and better.
At the time there was no difference between Orthodox and Catholic Christianity that exists today. There was one Church and difference was liturgical, there was a Latin rite and Eastern rite. It's important to keep that in mind.
Great video, love Slavic, Nordic, Roman history
Coming from Belarus (Where the Polotsk Chiefdom was), it's funny how the narrator uses the Variangian names while we studied the Slavic names of Rahvalod and Rahneda. These territories were truly an international melting pot of cultures. Yet modern Governments try to enforce monogamous culture and overwrite history for us.
Stay strong Belarus. Topple the dictatorship.
@@ElBandito thank you ❤️✊✌️
This was truly a level up of graphics!👌🏻
I just hope K&G will stay free to watch in the future. Their videos have improved so much, now with 3d animations. Great work, and great infographics. K&G have surely opened my mind to the vast and historical world we live in. Thanks and keep it up.
Extremely interesting, notice how when nations become Christian everything improves.
Because it open up trade market
And because all our sources are written by Christian monks. They have a vested interested in contrasting bad pagan past with the Christian good times
Tell that to the romans =)))
@@Oxtocoatl13 agreed
Makes me cry, on the inside of course, for america!
Basil makes Kievan Rus allies.
Basil: Ah... I am now at some peace.
Suddenly, Ceddin deden plays in distance.
Oh boy can't forget how slavs kicked there asses out of the europe 400 years later
@@shalaby8968 they ruled them that long. before that cumans, kipchaks and bulghars were kicking slav ass. not to mention, norsemenn kicked their asses since then
5 wives and 800 concubines. Its good to be king
Hahahahah
What's a concubine?
@@the_fifth_letter mistress
@@stephenheath8465 Well, it's good to be King.
Then Christianity came along with that monogamy.
A Latin custom to be viewed as respectable, in which men happily chose disrespect. 😆
@13:10 "We're here to convert to Christianity by liberating cities, wealth, and women from the Christians."
*Flawless Plan*
It wasn’t really liberation from the Christians if they were going to convert anyway, it’s just trading one despot for another.
And then its one of most profitable trade ever. Just traveling with an army but get A Princess, gold from sacking city, tribute from defeating rebel, And Faith also culture.
*FLAWLESS PLAN*
@@tahagi7006 Even so, you'd have to admit that's not usually how the whole "conversion" thing works. A militarily victorious culture doesn't typically convert to the religion of their enemy. Why should they? Their own gods have brought them victory, while those of the enemy were too weak to protect them.
Detailed & fascinating ... :-) Thank you!
I always wanted to work for these guys. I've loved their stuff for a long time.
This guy is underrated, deserves way more views.
The quality of the Kings and Generals' videos is getting so good day by day, that it is quite possible (and I do expect this happens someday) that this channel starts making historical animated series in the future! Have you guys ever imagined an animated series whose first season is about, for example, the war between Timur and the Ottoman Empire? And the second season being about, for example, the beginning of the Crusades from the Seljuk Turks' point of view? All made by the Kings and Generals? I really do hope it happens! Cheers, K and G!
8:14 Georgia was (and is) Orthodox country and not Muslim
georgia was part of arab caliphate
@@fuseydunae397 georgia was part of Soviet union
This was brilliant! I've been a huge fan for years but sometimes you fellas put out a video that is just awesome! Thanks.
Great piece of historical information👍
Now, you're just flexing. The animation is FREAKING AWESOME!!!
I absolutely love this channel. Been watching since you had 30,000 subscribers.
Keep up the hard work 👍🏾
I would love you to do a series on the Somali-Ottoman 🇸🇴🇹🇷 wars against Ethiopia-Portugal🇪🇹🇵🇹
That sounds great
@@t.wcharles2171 yh but the information is scarce and hard to find and even worse as they don't speak somali
abdi abdi Lol speaking Somali has nothing to do with this. Secondly you’re telling me the Ottomans and Portuguese didn’t keep accounts of what happened? Don’t be silly.
@@AD-ce6ol yeah but the info is no where near the amount used in the usual kng video so it will either be extremely short or have to include the all the ottoman Portugues war to make it long enough
abdi abdi You haven’t done the research to be making these assumptions.
The animations are looking really good.
AHHH This is so gooood! I love it! Keep it up K&G!
These animations are just brilliant amazing work as always
I like the videos about the lesser known areas/history. Places like Russia and the middle east aren't typically covered in any US history classes. Please keep the lesser known things coming.
Not much on ancient China, either. So little is covered. Mostly focused on European history.
@@TheCandiceWang En México si se trata sobre China y Medio Oriente e incluye Europa.
Grettings from México.
I am waiting for more episodes on The Rus!
"Adopting Slavonic church tongue....which is one of the reasons why arguably Turkic Bulgarians speak a Slavic language today" That's a bit of a strange point to make, church services in catholic Europe were in Latin, those people didn't end up speaking Latin did they? Isn't it more likely that the Turkic Bulgars mixed with another ethnic group that heavily influenced the language over time? Possibly Slavs maybe?
Anyway, love the channel, looking forward to the next videos in these series.
Yeah you have a point. Common folk never learned latin by "Sunday church visits" On the other hand Greek church was more liberal related to church tongue.
Exactly. And they did say "one of the reasons", it's not the main one though, the main one was mixing with Slavs as you mentioned.
@Вхламинго Stupid thing to say.
@Вхламинго Please clarify, when did Turks arrive at Balkan, what year exactly?
nemanjasim100 The Huns were the first Turkic tribe to enter the balkan region. At that time its name wasn’t even Balkan. That name was given to that region by the Ottomans.
What would we do without Kings and Generals? Incredible Channel.
Those 3D animations are very beautiful! Nice video, as always!
You got it wrong about Cyril, Methodus and Old Bulgarian.
Cyril and Methodius were Byzantine nobles of Slavic origin, born and raised in Thessaloniki. They based the glagolitsa around the local Slav dialect, which at that point was intelligible to all Southern Slavs and probably also to the Western Slavs, Moravians among them.
The Danubian Bulgarians had at that point almost coalesced into the single nation that is modern Bulgarians. It comprised of the Protobulgars, whose origin and language is a highly contested topic still far from being settled, and their Slav allies, which had become more numerous with time, as Bulgaria conquered more lands populated with Slavs. Hence, at the time of Cyril and Methodius, the lingua franca in Bulgaria was a Slavic Language. They didn't adopt the language of the Moravians, it was already there, or at least a mutually intelligible version of Slavic, which at that point had only just begun to branch off in the three big subtrees we have today.
Cyril and Methodius' disciples continued the work of the two brothers in Bulgaria, where they invented the new alphabet and called it Cyrillic in honor of their teacher. Old Church Slavonic was simply the Old Bulgarian from that time, which remained largely unchanged as a lithurgic language, whereas "normal" Bulgarian continued to naturally evolve as all languages do.
Love this subject 🤩
Same always loved the Early Russian History.
The Word of God is pure; His precepts are everlasting; His salvation brings great joy!
As a Russian, I really appreciate that people enjoy our history and make content about it! Much respect and love from Moscow)
No gladness among them, only sorrow. I think this hasnt changed, most of the muslims in muslim countries are kinda unhappy.
@@harryy7918 And in 900 what was the reason?
@@harryy7918 I love you man. You are so innocent
@@harryy7918 now also you are full of sorrow and being aggressive lol the live example guy😂
That’s a complete lie
imagine making a decision that will affect people centuries later
8:12 There difference between "Catholic" and "Orthodox" here is only one of language of liturgical rites (Latin vs Greek) and who was considered the chief bishop in that part of the world (Pope of Rome vs Patriarch of Constantinople). There was some competition between the two for converting the Slavs. But they were still at that time both part of the universal Christian church, sharing the same communion and professing the same faith.
The question was not about the primacy of Peter . The eastern patriarch was fine with this concept . But the problem was the Emperor who was in the east involved himself in Church affairs by lobbying who would become the bishop so that he can exercise his influence on the people . This naturally was not welcomed by the Pope and he prepared to put an end to this and the patriarch of the east who kept supporting the Emperor obviously because he was his patron also got involved in this conflict and it resulted in a division.
@@johnfrancis6413 Lo mismo paso durante el papa bizantino.
Thank you for this content it’s amazing
the best illustration you ever did 👍
"Converts on his own terms" proceeds to raid then threatening more if he doesn't marry.