I don't care who wins between rattler and haener because they are both saints and I will root for any player on the saints. However, I'm seeing "fans" that are degrading rattler and haener and its just weird to me. If you're going to bash either player and not let the best man win, then you're not a fan
They are threats to DC, you have to understand these new guys have a much higher ceiling than DC who have a tendency of reverting to old habits instead of trusting the playbook. Now that all QBs have the same playbook no modification to fit 1 QB skillset they are a threat to DC. Lets be real if the Saints aren't 4-2 in their first 6 game their season is pretty much over. They should move on from Carr and Allen and look to the future after the season.
@@alphasports3743 Just admit you don't know shit about football. Every time you post anything everybody's intelligence drops just from reading your dumb shit!
Haeners biggest weakness was his slow reads. If he gets that fixed he could be really good. Arm strength is also suspect but Drew Brees proved that's not 100% necessary
Heaner completed almost 70% of his passes in college and his football intelligence was one of his scouting string suits, his arm strength is more than adequate and has a stronger arm than a young Drew Bress
You literally described the opposite of Jakes strengths. Do some research son. Jake's strongest attribute is his ability to read defenses and his processing speed along with his accuracy. You must be confusing him with Rattler. SMH!
@@metv1986 you say that as though a career backup for a 4th or w/e it was would be a bad thing. Backup can save a season. If he ends up actually being a good starter...then that's a steal!
Now I understand the big plays however which qb is actually pushing themselves and which qb is just taking the easy completion. That makes a different. If the qb is playing it safe on practice then he is not getting better. As a 49er fan this is what made Purdy goodm he took chances in practice but trying to throw into tight windows manipulation prof safety or LB and just trying to play in the offense.
I think when I say "in the lead" it's more about how the Saints view them then performance. Like Haener is clearly the QB2 guy right now in that he works with the second team and is the second QB in every rotation. So it's not a forever statement, I'm just trying to paint a picture of how they're being utilized in practice and what that tells us. A little more nuanced than "this guy is better than that guy," which I wouldn't really dig into this early anyway.
If you start hill (if things go bad with Carr) the saints make the playoffs. rattler and jake are not built like hill do not put your trust in them pls saints lol
@@indiig. ok your right 7-2 and being one of the main reasons we won is pure garbage lol who cares if he doesn’t throw for 5000 yards and accurate like drew brees , he wins through his production and that production directly correlates to winning football
I’m gonna say this because this is straight facts. I really hope that Jake Hainer learned a lot from John Gruden because he’s garbage he is the worst quarterback on the New Orleans Saints roster and let me tell you as a fan have been a fan for all my life and I’m scared if Derek car goes down because our whole season is going to go right down the drain, I really pray that Spenser Rattler beats Jake Hainer out because he has more athletic ability than Derek Carr and Jake Hainer combined and that’s what we need
Some of us saints fans are so negative on things. I understand things don’t go our way sometimes but many wish the downfall on so many of our players sometimes it’s really sad!! Be positive and supportive cause as a fan base not all but we are getting real good at whining about things and as a fellow saints fan it gets annoying. Support your team they have done so much to be more successful and we’re still crying and putting that bad energy on our players that need our support. Smh it’s disappointing to see all the time!!
Spencer Rattler will be QB1 soon. Maybe not this upcoming season but Carr better count his days. If I were in control, I would trade Carr to the New York Giants. He seems like a better fit there than NO
Rattler will be lucky to make the PS. Carr is our starter and Jake is our number two QB and eventual starter. So just stop with the stupid shit! You, do know crack is illegal!
@@DerekwhodatCarr111 coming from an account who is glazing Carr? Yeah Foh here with that BS and open your eyes. Spence is a much better talent and Haener is gonna be number 2. So we agree there.
@@kash.383 he probably says that purely based on that fact that haener is white. In reality, we know nothing about both of these guys yet. We can't say one is better than the other atm.
Exactly, 32 teams passed on Rattler 149 times. Also, the Saints gave up a 7th round 2023 pick along with a 2024 4th round pick to move up in the 4th round in 2023 to pick Jake. So, basically the Saints used 3 draft picks to select Jake Haener. They didn't give up shit to draft Rattler. In fact, they had 4 5th round picks so his pick was basically a throw away pick.
I don't care who wins between rattler and haener because they are both saints and I will root for any player on the saints. However, I'm seeing "fans" that are degrading rattler and haener and its just weird to me. If you're going to bash either player and not let the best man win, then you're not a fan
Those are CARRBAGE FANBOYS NOT SAINTS FANS OR RAIDERS FANS PURE CARRBAGE 🗑️
Exactly, I agree
They are threats to DC, you have to understand these new guys have a much higher ceiling than DC who have a tendency of reverting to old habits instead of trusting the playbook. Now that all QBs have the same playbook no modification to fit 1 QB skillset they are a threat to DC. Lets be real if the Saints aren't 4-2 in their first 6 game their season is pretty much over. They should move on from Carr and Allen and look to the future after the season.
@@dabking3611 And the idiots hating on Derek and Jake and Hyping trash Rattler are Winston Cult fans!
@@alphasports3743 Just admit you don't know shit about football. Every time you post anything everybody's intelligence drops just from reading your dumb shit!
Hope AT has a great season!
You have to love the competition this year Ross
Just cut peterman.
😂😂😂
Dumbest pickup ever
Peterman may be more valuable than Rattler
Keep him on practice sqaud at best. Hes better to keep there as he has experience...i guess lol.
@@ruelasjoseph nah he'll leave. He's good enough to be a backup somewhere.
Haener!
i agree i saw a nuff last year doing preseasion what jake can do jake is better then any QB we have jake should be QB 1. my opion
i would of love too see drew bress on bench with jake show him new thing jake would be a monster
Haeners biggest weakness was his slow reads. If he gets that fixed he could be really good. Arm strength is also suspect but Drew Brees proved that's not 100% necessary
Heaner completed almost 70% of his passes in college and his football intelligence was one of his scouting string suits, his arm strength is more than adequate and has a stronger arm than a young Drew Bress
Wasted pick career backup
@@metv1986 Yes Rattler is a waste of draft pick and a career backup!
You literally described the opposite of Jakes strengths. Do some research son. Jake's strongest attribute is his ability to read defenses and his processing speed along with his accuracy. You must be confusing him with Rattler. SMH!
@@metv1986 you say that as though a career backup for a 4th or w/e it was would be a bad thing. Backup can save a season. If he ends up actually being a good starter...then that's a steal!
Gooooood Morning my nation of WHODATS
Now I understand the big plays however which qb is actually pushing themselves and which qb is just taking the easy completion. That makes a different. If the qb is playing it safe on practice then he is not getting better. As a 49er fan this is what made Purdy goodm he took chances in practice but trying to throw into tight windows manipulation prof safety or LB and just trying to play in the offense.
That’s a GREAT role for Peterman …..to not play at all……these new coaches are geniuses
Will Southern California Saints Fans be able to attend Practices here during Training Camp ?
I’m wondering the same I’m out here too
They need to be physically stronger 💪 then last year all across Who dat
Why not move Turner to defensive tackle?😊
Y u going at Jake so hard
I think Jake going to win cuz he read defensive batter
💯
Please cut Peterman but Jake Haener is my GUY!!! Let's go Haener!!!!!'
I think we should save this in the lead stuff until we see the two QBs play against an opponents defense, or any defense..😅
I think when I say "in the lead" it's more about how the Saints view them then performance. Like Haener is clearly the QB2 guy right now in that he works with the second team and is the second QB in every rotation. So it's not a forever statement, I'm just trying to paint a picture of how they're being utilized in practice and what that tells us. A little more nuanced than "this guy is better than that guy," which I wouldn't really dig into this early anyway.
They brought petermen in to have the rookie QBs ...cause if they can't beat him out ...
WHO DAT?!!!!!
Tanoh Kpassagnon out with a torn achilles
If you start hill (if things go bad with Carr) the saints make the playoffs. rattler and jake are not built like hill do not put your trust in them pls saints lol
Hill is not the answer at QB. We’ve already determined that
@@indiig. ok your right 7-2 and being one of the main reasons we won is pure garbage lol who cares if he doesn’t throw for 5000 yards and accurate like drew brees , he wins through his production and that production directly correlates to winning football
I mean...we should try Haener and Rattler. They may be really good. I agree people gave up on Hill really early. His w-l ratio was pretty good
jake better trust me
Rattler got him by a mile
A.T. Perry needs to be number 5
(The Matador Award goes to who
Haener aka The PED Model 😅
Haener the future franchise QB for the Saints. Get used to it boy!
@@DerekwhodatCarr111 now ur the general manager and head coach of the saints? Keep on eating ur Cheetos wiping ur hands on ur shirt boy
I’m gonna say this because this is straight facts. I really hope that Jake Hainer learned a lot from John Gruden because he’s garbage he is the worst quarterback on the New Orleans Saints roster and let me tell you as a fan have been a fan for all my life and I’m scared if Derek car goes down because our whole season is going to go right down the drain, I really pray that Spenser Rattler beats Jake Hainer out because he has more athletic ability than Derek Carr and Jake Hainer combined and that’s what we need
Lmao!!!
Hopefully you know THAT GRUDEN IS 🗑️ KEPT CARRBAGE 🗑️ OVER THE GOAT 🐐 BRADY 🤭
No lie it has to be hard for you to produce any testosterone
Yall think Rattler is an NFL athlete? Haaaa, now dats funny mayne, cause Offensive lineman had faster 40 times. That my friend is a fact.
Some of us saints fans are so negative on things. I understand things don’t go our way sometimes but many wish the downfall on so many of our players sometimes it’s really sad!! Be positive and supportive cause as a fan base not all but we are getting real good at whining about things and as a fellow saints fan it gets annoying. Support your team they have done so much to be more successful and we’re still crying and putting that bad energy on our players that need our support. Smh it’s disappointing to see all the time!!
In a perfect world AT Perry is wr1 Olave is wr2 and Shaheed is wr3
I don’t think you understand how good Olave is. I like Perry but you are comparing to different levels of talent.
Spencer Rattler will be QB1 soon. Maybe not this upcoming season but Carr better count his days. If I were in control, I would trade Carr to the New York Giants. He seems like a better fit there than NO
Carr has a no trade clause in his contract
@@rudolphcalvin did not know that. I thought a trade could happen after some time. Maybe we can get him to waive it
Rattler will be lucky to make the PS. Carr is our starter and Jake is our number two QB and eventual starter. So just stop with the stupid shit! You, do know crack is illegal!
@@DerekwhodatCarr111 coming from an account who is glazing Carr? Yeah Foh here with that BS and open your eyes. Spence is a much better talent and Haener is gonna be number 2. So we agree there.
Falcons win Carr throws an interception, get used to it.
You crazy we smoked atlanta last time we played we stomped them get use to it!
I'm sure you're used to getting whipped by the Saints over the last nearly 20 years. Carr only threw 8 picks last year by the way.
There's not going to be a battle. Haener is heads and shoulders above Rattler.
How so?
@@kash.383 he probably says that purely based on that fact that haener is white. In reality, we know nothing about both of these guys yet. We can't say one is better than the other atm.
Yes, please tell us how Jake Kainer is so much better than Spencer Rattler, Jake Henner garbage dude
@LilRedRasta 100% agree with you
@LilRedRasta pfft... seven hells mayne. It must be exhausting fighting all your made up racism.
There is a reason why most teams didn't want Spencer. Don't make it a quarterback controversy when there is none.
Exactly, 32 teams passed on Rattler 149 times. Also, the Saints gave up a 7th round 2023 pick along with a 2024 4th round pick to move up in the 4th round in 2023 to pick Jake. So, basically the Saints used 3 draft picks to select Jake Haener. They didn't give up shit to draft Rattler. In fact, they had 4 5th round picks so his pick was basically a throw away pick.