I couldn’t ask for a better video, I love Aaron Rodgers, people throw him under the bus too much. I could watch his highlights for hours, a pure legend.
The day competitiveness dies is when people start to trivialize the whole point of winning. Aaron Rodgers is one of my favorite players ever, but he's not even top 5 in a legit QB list. You can argue Aaron Rodgers is a top 5 talent ever, maybe even top 3 (Vick is definitely the most talented), but when it comes to competitiveness, drive, desire, leadership, carefulness, logical outcomes of a certain situation in a game, down and distance, when your team needs to count and rely on you the most, and many more things, it's clear he isn't at the very top, let alone at the top. Aaron Rodgers' teams have also always had a majority spending favoring their offense. The defense argument makes no sense if you're paying only 40% of your salary cap towards it. That's like expecting to get a superstar player for less than 5% of your salary cap when average quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence are receiving 20% and over. For this to actually work, you'd need to have ridiculous numbers in situations where your team relies on you the most. Mahomes is actually quite a perfect example of this in modern times. Aaron Rodgers in 22 playoff games only has 2 GAME-WINNING DRIVES (against the Cowboys if you will). Mahomes, not even playing half of Aaron Rodgers' career, has 6 game-winning drives in the playoffs, and only second to Brady in touchdown drives led per game and points per game in the playoffs. This is just a small list of things I will state. I have plenty of more ammo.
I prefer the guy who, when his college highlights are spliced together with those of Caleb Williams', the other guy's come out better ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html. As my name here suggests, people Refuse To Acknowledge reality when it contradicts their assumptions. It's something lacking in all analysis videos. Rodgers' tendency to avoid throwing over the middle only shows up compared to QBs who do it more. Caleb Williams' tendency to _drastically_ under-throw his receivers doesn't look problematic until you see another QB, especially one rated *far below him* do it far, far less. & even his Pretty Spirals look less impressive when compared against someone else throwing Perfect Missiles that hit his receivers in the hands Every Single Time giving defense no time to adjust to his passes or make plays on them. _Without_ that footage everyone dismisses that QB as a bust.
I had to make this video after I got into a few heated debates about it. Some may say this is glazing, but it’s also facts. Non football players & non QBs favor Tom Brady, but most QBs I’ve asked have said Aaron Rodgers is their GOAT 🤷♂️
Im a tom Brady fan, and I he is the goat. Overall he did what nobody could do. But theirs a reason mahomes, allen, Zac Wilson and so many more qbs said Rodgers is their idol
im a qb. but tom brady is the goat. its because of his mentality and leadership. By far, aaron rodgers is the goat of throwing the ball. But overall as a qb. tom brady outshines because mentality is more important. thats how he wins more
Now if aaron rodgers had tom brady’s leadership and mentality… it would be over. 21 years itl. He would have 10-15 rings. That would be a nasty combo to have. There would be no debate
A lot more you could’ve added, His ability to read a defense. He is the master at free plays, and catching the defense with 12 men on the field. The ability he has to maneuver in the pocket and buy time while his receivers eventually get open. Aaron is by far the most complete and most efficient quarterback the game has ever seen. And if anyone jumps in and says “He’s a terrible leader” you have been brainwashed by the media for years into thinking that. He’s my goat for sure.
At every single level besides the NFL, a player is always judged based on their talent first. Somehow when a QB joins the NFL it’s all about rings. Rodgers is easily the best QB of all time.
I like Marino a lot. His release is also super quick. People just don’t talk about him because he never won a Super Bowl. But it wasn’t his fault. Marino won 2 MvPS, first qb to throw for 5,000 yards in 1984, and a lot more. Marino is my favorite qb. I never saw him live because I’m a young guy but he is one of my favorite qbs ever
I hate how greatest means rings is the only reason. You could have Kirk cousins with 10 rings and people will say nobody is better. This ring thing needs to stop
Kirk cousins right now has hall of fame stats if he wins one ring or makes it to a Super Bowl hall of famer for sure just like Matthew Stafford u play to win not stats that includes rings dummy
See some people don't understand how important a QB defense is. I was watching some matches of Jared Goff when he was in Rams. Shit shit defense. Everybody blames QBs for everything it seems, when the defense missed most of the time. It's sad because people like Rodgers deserve those rings more than anyone. I mean Brady is good. He has good field intelligence, but Rodgers is untouchable imo.
@@dimes. yeah, honestly I’m new to football, I’ve been another football player for many years (you guys call it soccer, I’m from Europe), but I’m getting acquainted with NFL history. Fascinating game tbh. Details are the game imo. I can see the patterns as to how people perceive the game, for some reason QBs get the most attention, when football is very team forward first. Just like soccer. I feel like this is where non-athletes fail to appreciate and take in the sport as a whole. Imo you have to have an eye to see what we athletes see.
You missed one word. Not in. Mahomes, Brady, Montana, Manning, Elway, Marino will always come ahead of him unless he wins 2-3 SB in the next 3 years but we are not talking Brady here we are talking about a guy who has faltered for almost every playoff for close to 20 years.
Rodgers and mahomes are honestly neck and neck with each other with overall skill. Like when I think of skilled quarterbacks those two instantly come to mind.
@@dimes. idk I respect both a lot. Most of the time these subjects are always opinion based. Growing up I always said peyton manning was the goat but obviously after Tom joined my team it changed a bit
Nah he has done enough in his short career to prove himself against Aaron Rodgers. Like what more would Mahomes have to do to prove he is as skilled, if not more skilled?
TBH, as much as I like Brady, I can see your point. It also kinda makes me laugh looking at all the casuals make “best QBs in the leagues today” and not even include Rodgers because of his Jets run. Just laughable. Good video, enjoyed it :)
I'm a huge Packers and table tennis fan and seeing this video I never realized how similar the 2 sports are, specially the wrist flick and waist rotation when throwing a football or doing a topspin. Amazing
Love the Rodgers throwing motion breakdown. Maybe a lot to ask but could you do a throwing motion breakdown for Stafford? I've always loved watching him throw. Maybe you're a Packers fan but even Rodgers has complimented Stafford's throwing and I'd love to learn more!
Hey dk if you remember but I dmed u n u said this was gonna be a banger it is thanks for the tip I’ll try my best to get the throwing motion down but it looks like it takes time to get the Arron Rodger’s throwing motion down but thanks for the vid🔥
Rodgers stans: "Brady only won those rings because the Patriots built amazing defenses" *Packers spend early draft picks on defenses* Also Rodgers stans: "wHy DoNt ThEy GiVe RoDgErS wEaPoNs" I'm also going to throw out a few other bits of information - in that high scoring Cardinals playoff loss like two plays prior to the game ending play Rodgers missed a wide open Jordy Nelson for what probably would have been a game ending setup. Also in a lot of those playoff losses post from 2014 onwards you conveniently ignore that the Packers were putting up sub 20 point performances, and that all of GB's points against Atlanta were garbage time stats. Also ignore that in 2021 the Packers defense got 4 turnovers in the 2nd half against Brady and Rodgers struggled to turn those into any points and also forgot how his legs worked in the 4th quarter. I think Rodgers is an incredibly talented QB but I sort of think he's become overrated as time has gone on because people hyper fixate on his TD/INT ratio, and I feel like the goal posts to justify his greatness keep shifting as more QBs pass him up in areas. Brady has him beat in basically every statistical category that isnt TD/INT ratio and rating (and Brady isn't exactly far behind in either of those areas anyway), Peyton has more MVPs, Rodgers doesn't even have the best playoff passer rating in the history of the Packers, Mahomes has already eclipsed him in some areas and is on pace to obliterate Rodgers statistically. Rodgers has had bad luck but so has every other QB in the league who isn't named Tom Brady, and Rodgers himself has kind of sold in the later half of his career too. Absolutely one of the greats who deserves to be in the hall of fame immediately, but I wouldn't put him above the likes of Montana, Brady, Peyton, or even Mahomes at this point.
It was actually Greg Jennings he missed in arizona. Not Jordy. Against Atlanta Mason missed a field goal on the first drive. and the fullback Ripkowski fumbled at the 5 yard line after a nice drive. Probably should of been 17-10 at half. Instead Atlanta marched after the fumble and made it 24-0. And even mahomes didn't just light it up this last post season. He had plenty of sub 20 point efforts too. They played good team ball and won. From 2011-2016 aaron doesn't deserve the bulk of the blame. But the 20-21 season he specifically did not make enough plays. I put alot of blame on him for those particular games
Aaron Rodgers is 16th on completion percentage at 65.3, so he’s not the even in the top ten there, lol. He’s not the GOAT because championships matter more, and your probably just in love with him because he became a doctor by watching you tube videos and Joe Rogan podcasts, lol, if you take out his SB run, he’s 8-10 in the playoffs over a 14 year stretch, that’s not top tier level, some of his stats are, but overall, he’s not going to be remembered the way you want him to fanboy, lol
I swear man, what could have been. Ive been a packers fan for 23 years and I have seen so much heartbreak with our team in the playoffs. What could have been...
Problem is that Aaron Rodgers as far as I’ve heard is absent as a leader. Tom Brady along with Belichick was - you’re right - probably not the greatest ARM TALENT of all time (and it’s not even as close as one would assume of the “GOAT”), but he was cumulatively great because of his insane focus and effort regarding his preparation for himself and the entire offense. Quarterback is half athletic and half intellectual, meaning that a big part of winning as a quarterback is schematic preparation before the first snap. Rodgers prepares hard to understand scheme himself, but Brady was a systematic field general for the entire team, professing details to receivers, backs and o-linemen with an obsession. He was like a second coach to the Patriots.
Plenty of evidence the TD to int ratio. He is so good at that that he cannot win a playoff game because he focuses on his personal stats instead of focusing on winning the game. Rodgers is bogged down by again having a high passer rating that does not translate into wins percentage which is almost 10% higher for Brady and Rodgers is below a lot of other QB in that category. One side of the story that you have omitted is the benefit of having a future HOF like Davante Adams to win regular season MVP. Brady did not have a focus on his personal stats or his salary that is why he managed to win way more and win a heap of SB in the process. If you ask me if Rodgers had the talent to become the GOAT? Yes but just like Peyton Manning before him he underachieved and could not compete with Joe Montana. Where Brady has close to double the previous mark of Montana. Sorry my friend being the best thrower of the football does not make you the GOAT Brady has showed to us that it takes more a lot more.
@@INoticeTooMuch1 I didn’t mention it like I did not mention that Football is a team sport and therefore you have to be strong in all phases of the game to win (offence, defence and special teams). I also did not mention that Brady did not have an elite receiver except for the 2 years where he had Moss while he was in NE. He had more often than not a defence that was top 10 but I also did not mention that he never had pro bowl talent drafted on offence besides Gronk and that most of the drafting capital went for defence. There are a ton of things that I did not mention but if you are really a fan of football and not a troll you do not need me to spell out that NE plays complementary football and they aim to be strong in all phases of the game and that this is how they managed to win a lot of games. If you really are a fan of football and not a troll you get the gist of my argument or you research it and know that this is how a football team win games. You can always argue that win is not a QB stat yet the great ones are always at the top of the leaderboard so I guess being a great QB might have something to do with winning after all.
Rodgers is definitely top 5 all time, but I can't look past Brady and what he has done with comebacks and game winning moments talent aside Brady just has that clutch gene that you can't teach.
I always ask people who auto-GOAT Brady: “what is Brady better at than Rodgers? …arm strength? No. Accuracy? No. Mobility? No. Deep field accuracy? No. Scrambling? No. Throwing on the move? No. Reading defenses? No. No-look throws? No. Circus throws? No. You got anything??”
@@olacogumelo3789 winning in a team sport is a team thing. Duh. If you’re talking ability to will a win then no there is nobody even close to Rodgers EVERYONE knows that
AARON RODGERS LOST 4 OUT 5 NFC CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS. HE GOT A SUPERBOWL AND THEN LOST THE NEXT 4 CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS. A GREAT PASSER THAT COULD NEVER GET IT DONE AGAIN. THAT IS HIS LEGACY.
There’s a difference between most talented and best player. There have been a lot of players with great stats and talent that didn’t win championships.
Any QB past the year 2000 had the luxury of rule changes to the passing game that allowed for these video game stats. Defense can’t play defense anymore. That’s why so many Quarterbacks TD/ int ratio is whack today.
Dam strait. Anyone who's watched every game of his career, like real fans, would know this year's and years and years ago. There's no one like him. Not Mahomes. No one. He's simply the greatest I've ever seen
lol the tired defense argument again, how original. Regular season defense means jack in post season. No SB winners has bad defenses in post season making this argument pointless. Furthermore, Brady offense outranked his team's defense in like 19 of his 23 season too.
This is always how i look at goat comparison.. pick 1 qb in their prime to get you toudy in less than 2 min. Its rodg/mahones, or ur a fool. The ability to evade defenders, throw on run accuracy, arm strength.. 12 is my guy! "That's my qb." 👓😥
There's more to being the greatest of all time than just arm talent. Your attitude is what is unfortunately prevalent in the draft and why people actually believe the nfl combine is important (it isn't).What makes a GOAT? It's what's going on above the neck, sacrifice, and work ethic. They elevate their teammates to the next level. Danny Amendola, Julian Edelman, and Chris Hogan were hardly Jerry Rice, but Brady made them look that way. GOATs, no matter the sport, have something you can't teach. Aaron Rodgers is one of the great quarterbacks, but he isn't the GOAT.
Curious to see how that Achilles effects that pop foot given its his lead leg. I think it was be more concerning if it was on his rear leg where all the power is generating from.
Same, after watching the Tom Brady roast I was like..woah. Tom Brady gets so much love as the goat but even Tom Brady himself has said that A-Rod is more talented than he is.
I wouldn't say 12 is the GOAT, but easily he is the BOAT. Great video, even though it brought back some major PTSD, lol. 2014, 2012, 2020 and especially 2021, just brutal. I can't even...
You know, this was going well until you said that Aaron Rodgers hated Jordan love. This has never been true. Having been in Jordan’s situation in the past when he was drafted to replace Brett Favre, instead of making no things difficult, he actually helped Jordan Love as confirmed by both himself, Jordan love, and the staff. Get your facts straight
it's simple really.. put rodgers on your goat's team and put your goat on the packers... I guarantee you the team with rodgers gets better and i can bet you the packers get worse (maybe****** stay the same). this man is DIFFERENT than anything we have ever seen or currently seeing. Yes that includes ketchup boy in kansas city.
I'm a packers fan and I was too young to see our superbowl. I believe in jordan love though especially since he was trained by arod and our defense looks promising.
I think this comes down to what people define as "goat". Mahomes is already receiving compliments calling him the new "goat" because he has 3 rings. If mahomes didnt had only one 1 ring nobody would be considering him. "Goat" is just used as "most accomplished" now which I believe is unfortunate. I'm a Packers fan so I might be a little bias but I completely agree that he's the best mechanical qb ever.
I think that if Rodger’s goes on to win the Super Bowl this coming season, which based on everything you said in this video, he has the best chance of his career to do, then he will be my undisputed GOAT and probably many other people’s as well.
Experienced football players know Aaron is the most talented QB. He is also the smartest @ reading Defenses and changing plays @ the line. He carried Green Bay for years. GB doesn't have an owner and the Front Office guys were questionable as they didn't construct good Defenses and Special Teams were the worst in the NFL for years-ST are still weak.
I couldn’t ask for a better video, I love Aaron Rodgers, people throw him under the bus too much. I could watch his highlights for hours, a pure legend.
I appreciate u 😂🤝🤝
Facts
It's his personality that turns people off. But as a pure talent and player he is the best thrower of a football and most talented QB I have ever seen
The day competitiveness dies is when people start to trivialize the whole point of winning. Aaron Rodgers is one of my favorite players ever, but he's not even top 5 in a legit QB list.
You can argue Aaron Rodgers is a top 5 talent ever, maybe even top 3 (Vick is definitely the most talented), but when it comes to competitiveness, drive, desire, leadership, carefulness, logical outcomes of a certain situation in a game, down and distance, when your team needs to count and rely on you the most, and many more things, it's clear he isn't at the very top, let alone at the top.
Aaron Rodgers' teams have also always had a majority spending favoring their offense. The defense argument makes no sense if you're paying only 40% of your salary cap towards it. That's like expecting to get a superstar player for less than 5% of your salary cap when average quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence are receiving 20% and over. For this to actually work, you'd need to have ridiculous numbers in situations where your team relies on you the most. Mahomes is actually quite a perfect example of this in modern times. Aaron Rodgers in 22 playoff games only has 2 GAME-WINNING DRIVES (against the Cowboys if you will). Mahomes, not even playing half of Aaron Rodgers' career, has 6 game-winning drives in the playoffs, and only second to Brady in touchdown drives led per game and points per game in the playoffs.
This is just a small list of things I will state. I have plenty of more ammo.
I prefer the guy who, when his college highlights are spliced together with those of Caleb Williams', the other guy's come out better ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html. As my name here suggests, people Refuse To Acknowledge reality when it contradicts their assumptions.
It's something lacking in all analysis videos. Rodgers' tendency to avoid throwing over the middle only shows up compared to QBs who do it more. Caleb Williams' tendency to _drastically_ under-throw his receivers doesn't look problematic until you see another QB, especially one rated *far below him* do it far, far less.
& even his Pretty Spirals look less impressive when compared against someone else throwing Perfect Missiles that hit his receivers in the hands Every Single Time giving defense no time to adjust to his passes or make plays on them.
_Without_ that footage everyone dismisses that QB as a bust.
I had to make this video after I got into a few heated debates about it. Some may say this is glazing, but it’s also facts. Non football players & non QBs favor Tom Brady, but most QBs I’ve asked have said Aaron Rodgers is their GOAT 🤷♂️
Drew Brees the goat
This take sounds like Bruce Brown is the goat of the nba
Im a tom Brady fan, and I he is the goat. Overall he did what nobody could do. But theirs a reason mahomes, allen, Zac Wilson and so many more qbs said Rodgers is their idol
im a qb. but tom brady is the goat. its because of his mentality and leadership. By far, aaron rodgers is the goat of throwing the ball. But overall as a qb. tom brady outshines because mentality is more important. thats how he wins more
Now if aaron rodgers had tom brady’s leadership and mentality… it would be over. 21 years itl. He would have 10-15 rings. That would be a nasty combo to have. There would be no debate
A lot more you could’ve added, His ability to read a defense. He is the master at free plays, and catching the defense with 12 men on the field. The ability he has to maneuver in the pocket and buy time while his receivers eventually get open. Aaron is by far the most complete and most efficient quarterback the game has ever seen. And if anyone jumps in and says “He’s a terrible leader” you have been brainwashed by the media for years into thinking that. He’s my goat for sure.
@@e12zzz57 all facts, thank you for the input 🤝
At every single level besides the NFL, a player is always judged based on their talent first. Somehow when a QB joins the NFL it’s all about rings. Rodgers is easily the best QB of all time.
Exactly, in an 11 player sport where the QB isn’t on the field half the game too 🫠😂
Best qb to do it
And how many rings does Aaron have? He was getting cooked in the playoffs
@@prequaIs did you even watch the video (6:28-10:06)
@@prequaIsyou definitely didn't watch this video
Rodgers is the best ever🐐 not the most accomplished but the BEST
Facts 🎯
I like Marino a lot. His release is also super quick. People just don’t talk about him because he never won a Super Bowl. But it wasn’t his fault. Marino won 2 MvPS, first qb to throw for 5,000 yards in 1984, and a lot more. Marino is my favorite qb. I never saw him live because I’m a young guy but he is one of my favorite qbs ever
Same, it’s hard to judge guys I never saw live 🤦♂️
I meant live like on tv. I should’ve said that because it sounds like he die d
My grammar
Marion’s numbers took huge drops in efficiency in the playoffs. Same as Peyton Manning
Marino is actually in top 10 even without a ring
I hate how greatest means rings is the only reason. You could have Kirk cousins with 10 rings and people will say nobody is better. This ring thing needs to stop
Kirk cousins right now has hall of fame stats if he wins one ring or makes it to a Super Bowl hall of famer for sure just like Matthew Stafford u play to win not stats that includes rings dummy
Well to be fair, what is the point of the nfl playoffs, and sports in general, if winning didn’t matter, just individual stats.
@@Ericericericericericeric then talk about how great that entire team is not a single player 🤦♂️
Your dumb a Kirk cousins type will never win that many super bowls....thats the point
no kirko chainz hate
REMEMBER EVERYONE
TEAM ACCOLADES ARE NOT A QB STAT
I've been saying for years that the qb debates are riddled with so many flaws. People honestly team success is 100% on the qb, and it blows my mind.
See some people don't understand how important a QB defense is. I was watching some matches of Jared Goff when he was in Rams. Shit shit defense. Everybody blames QBs for everything it seems, when the defense missed most of the time. It's sad because people like Rodgers deserve those rings more than anyone. I mean Brady is good. He has good field intelligence, but Rodgers is untouchable imo.
Agreed, football is such a team sport giving QBs all the credit for wins/losses just isn’t a fair/valid case for an argument
@@dimes. yeah, honestly I’m new to football, I’ve been another football player for many years (you guys call it soccer, I’m from Europe), but I’m getting acquainted with NFL history. Fascinating game tbh. Details are the game imo. I can see the patterns as to how people perceive the game, for some reason QBs get the most attention, when football is very team forward first. Just like soccer. I feel like this is where non-athletes fail to appreciate and take in the sport as a whole. Imo you have to have an eye to see what we athletes see.
Couldn't agree more, I think in terms of raw talent and ability Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT.
Aaron rogers is definitely in the 🐐race. We need more of these kind of vids 🔥
You missed one word. Not in. Mahomes, Brady, Montana, Manning, Elway, Marino will always come ahead of him unless he wins 2-3 SB in the next 3 years but we are not talking Brady here we are talking about a guy who has faltered for almost every playoff for close to 20 years.
@@michelleblanc6377 did u here what this man explained in the video!
@@michelleblanc6377I’m not putting Marino ahead of Rodgers lmao FOH
Rodgers and mahomes are honestly neck and neck with each other with overall skill. Like when I think of skilled quarterbacks those two instantly come to mind.
Mahomes is too early in his career to say that, he definitely could be tho if he keeps getting better
@@dimes. idk I respect both a lot. Most of the time these subjects are always opinion based. Growing up I always said peyton manning was the goat but obviously after Tom joined my team it changed a bit
Nah he has done enough in his short career to prove himself against Aaron Rodgers. Like what more would Mahomes have to do to prove he is as skilled, if not more skilled?
Great video. I'm hoping the Jets defense will help Rodgers win that second ring.
Recent football fan here but I love Rodgers and your videos. Cheers from Spain
Much appreciated 🙏
Love this! can you please make more videos breaking down other nfl quarterbacks
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TBH, as much as I like Brady, I can see your point. It also kinda makes me laugh looking at all the casuals make “best QBs in the leagues today” and not even include Rodgers because of his Jets run. Just laughable. Good video, enjoyed it :)
I'm a huge Packers and table tennis fan and seeing this video I never realized how similar the 2 sports are, specially the wrist flick and waist rotation when throwing a football or doing a topspin. Amazing
the plays aaron made throughout his career are insane. as a vikings fan, he is the goat
Hey I been watching your tutorials on how to throw perfect spirals and I been throwing spirals thanks for the tutorials
@@Chase-qy5xg glad I could help, great work bro 🤝
Love the Rodgers throwing motion breakdown. Maybe a lot to ask but could you do a throwing motion breakdown for Stafford? I've always loved watching him throw. Maybe you're a Packers fan but even Rodgers has complimented Stafford's throwing and I'd love to learn more!
@@ProLeopardx1 great idea, looking forward to doing more of these in the future 🙌
Hey dk if you remember but I dmed u n u said this was gonna be a banger it is thanks for the tip I’ll try my best to get the throwing motion down but it looks like it takes time to get the Arron Rodger’s throwing motion down but thanks for the vid🔥
@@AlexanderHernandez-s2s yessir I appreciate u 🙏
Thank you for this video! I appreciate this very thoughtful, logical, and accurate video.
Love your channel keep it up I have a question I’m trying to buy a football what do you think I should buy GST or OMEGA football or DUKE football
Duke for the satisfaction
@@jasonhernandez1511 depends on your age & goals
Amen brother! Whole heartedly agrrr
Rodgers stans: "Brady only won those rings because the Patriots built amazing defenses"
*Packers spend early draft picks on defenses*
Also Rodgers stans: "wHy DoNt ThEy GiVe RoDgErS wEaPoNs"
I'm also going to throw out a few other bits of information - in that high scoring Cardinals playoff loss like two plays prior to the game ending play Rodgers missed a wide open Jordy Nelson for what probably would have been a game ending setup. Also in a lot of those playoff losses post from 2014 onwards you conveniently ignore that the Packers were putting up sub 20 point performances, and that all of GB's points against Atlanta were garbage time stats. Also ignore that in 2021 the Packers defense got 4 turnovers in the 2nd half against Brady and Rodgers struggled to turn those into any points and also forgot how his legs worked in the 4th quarter.
I think Rodgers is an incredibly talented QB but I sort of think he's become overrated as time has gone on because people hyper fixate on his TD/INT ratio, and I feel like the goal posts to justify his greatness keep shifting as more QBs pass him up in areas. Brady has him beat in basically every statistical category that isnt TD/INT ratio and rating (and Brady isn't exactly far behind in either of those areas anyway), Peyton has more MVPs, Rodgers doesn't even have the best playoff passer rating in the history of the Packers, Mahomes has already eclipsed him in some areas and is on pace to obliterate Rodgers statistically. Rodgers has had bad luck but so has every other QB in the league who isn't named Tom Brady, and Rodgers himself has kind of sold in the later half of his career too. Absolutely one of the greats who deserves to be in the hall of fame immediately, but I wouldn't put him above the likes of Montana, Brady, Peyton, or even Mahomes at this point.
It was actually Greg Jennings he missed in arizona. Not Jordy. Against Atlanta Mason missed a field goal on the first drive. and the fullback Ripkowski fumbled at the 5 yard line after a nice drive. Probably should of been 17-10 at half. Instead Atlanta marched after the fumble and made it 24-0. And even mahomes didn't just light it up this last post season. He had plenty of sub 20 point efforts too. They played good team ball and won.
From 2011-2016 aaron doesn't deserve the bulk of the blame. But the 20-21 season he specifically did not make enough plays. I put alot of blame on him for those particular games
Rodgers only had 1 top 10 defense in his career. That year the Packers won the superbowl. It’s a team sport.
@@RunningWild32 So we agree that the Packers did the right thing by drafting defensive players instead of overloading an already loaded offense
Brady is the greatest Game Manager QB.
Rodgers is the best Game Changer QB.
Mahomes is the best Hybrid
@@vitigaymer1053 Are we really still trying to say Brady is a game manager when he holds most of the NFL QB records at this point?
Caleb literally just said he does this that’s crazy
Aaron Rodgers is 16th on completion percentage at 65.3, so he’s not the even in the top ten there, lol. He’s not the GOAT because championships matter more, and your probably just in love with him because he became a doctor by watching you tube videos and Joe Rogan podcasts, lol, if you take out his SB run, he’s 8-10 in the playoffs over a 14 year stretch, that’s not top tier level, some of his stats are, but overall, he’s not going to be remembered the way you want him to fanboy, lol
Wtf does the off the field stuff have to do with his on field performance? 😂 he’s your goat’s fav qb too lol
Even his playoff stats are better than TB and it's funny because they always say Rodgers chokes.
Really enjoy your vids. Curious how you would critique Brady’s throw
He has probably the most ideal fundamental throwing motion. Fast, high release, & very efficient. Tom House got him right 💪
I swear man, what could have been. Ive been a packers fan for 23 years and I have seen so much heartbreak with our team in the playoffs. What could have been...
Problem is that Aaron Rodgers as far as I’ve heard is absent as a leader. Tom Brady along with Belichick was - you’re right - probably not the greatest ARM TALENT of all time (and it’s not even as close as one would assume of the “GOAT”), but he was cumulatively great because of his insane focus and effort regarding his preparation for himself and the entire offense. Quarterback is half athletic and half intellectual, meaning that a big part of winning as a quarterback is schematic preparation before the first snap. Rodgers prepares hard to understand scheme himself, but Brady was a systematic field general for the entire team, professing details to receivers, backs and o-linemen with an obsession. He was like a second coach to the Patriots.
There’s never been anyone ever at the QB position. The Greatest.
Tom Brady? Peyton Manning?
Michael Vick?!
Plenty of evidence the TD to int ratio. He is so good at that that he cannot win a playoff game because he focuses on his personal stats instead of focusing on winning the game. Rodgers is bogged down by again having a high passer rating that does not translate into wins percentage which is almost 10% higher for Brady and Rodgers is below a lot of other QB in that category. One side of the story that you have omitted is the benefit of having a future HOF like Davante Adams to win regular season MVP. Brady did not have a focus on his personal stats or his salary that is why he managed to win way more and win a heap of SB in the process. If you ask me if Rodgers had the talent to become the GOAT? Yes but just like Peyton Manning before him he underachieved and could not compete with Joe Montana. Where Brady has close to double the previous mark of Montana. Sorry my friend being the best thrower of the football does not make you the GOAT Brady has showed to us that it takes more a lot more.
Brady’s average defense was 7th. Interesting I didn’t see you mention that when talking about winning percentage?
@@INoticeTooMuch1 I didn’t mention it like I did not mention that Football is a team sport and therefore you have to be strong in all phases of the game to win (offence, defence and special teams). I also did not mention that Brady did not have an elite receiver except for the 2 years where he had Moss while he was in NE. He had more often than not a defence that was top 10 but I also did not mention that he never had pro bowl talent drafted on offence besides Gronk and that most of the drafting capital went for defence. There are a ton of things that I did not mention but if you are really a fan of football and not a troll you do not need me to spell out that NE plays complementary football and they aim to be strong in all phases of the game and that this is how they managed to win a lot of games. If you really are a fan of football and not a troll you get the gist of my argument or you research it and know that this is how a football team win games. You can always argue that win is not a QB stat yet the great ones are always at the top of the leaderboard so I guess being a great QB might have something to do with winning after all.
He has the least amount of interceptions thrown in NFL history!
I have a question tho then why is Dak looked as one of the most int prone QB's ever yet he is top 10 in TD to INT Ratio in the history of the game?
That list is off. Troy Aikman has 3 rings not 4. He’s tied with Mahomes Terry Bradshaw should be in Aikmans spot with 4.
Rodgers is definitely top 5 all time, but I can't look past Brady and what he has done with comebacks and game winning moments talent aside Brady just has that clutch gene that you can't teach.
You and Aaron Rodgers are 🐐ed
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I always ask people who auto-GOAT Brady: “what is Brady better at than Rodgers? …arm strength? No. Accuracy? No. Mobility? No. Deep field accuracy? No. Scrambling? No. Throwing on the move? No. Reading defenses? No. No-look throws? No. Circus throws? No. You got anything??”
winning super bowls obviously
Obviously his ability to win
@@olacogumelo3789 winning in a team sport is a team thing. Duh. If you’re talking ability to will a win then no there is nobody even close to Rodgers EVERYONE knows that
@@dang4914 team accolade
@@DerekJohn though Brady actually did win, so your point?
Show us the stats in games that really mattered.
AARON RODGERS LOST 4 OUT 5 NFC CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS. HE GOT A SUPERBOWL AND THEN LOST THE NEXT 4 CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS. A GREAT PASSER THAT COULD NEVER GET IT DONE AGAIN. THAT IS HIS LEGACY.
Most talented not greatest. And he like Marino carried his teams not lead a powerhouse
There’s a difference between most talented and best player. There have been a lot of players with great stats and talent that didn’t win championships.
Too much of a team sport to make championships a player stat imo. How does 1 player get credit when half the time they aren’t even on the field 🤷♂️
Any QB past the year 2000 had the luxury of rule changes to the passing game that allowed for these video game stats. Defense can’t play defense anymore. That’s why so many Quarterbacks TD/ int ratio is whack today.
Maybe CJ Stroud should watch this video before he opens his mouth again regarding Rodgers
I liked this video format. Would love more like this 👍
More soon 🤝🤝 thank u
Dam strait. Anyone who's watched every game of his career, like real fans, would know this year's and years and years ago. There's no one like him. Not Mahomes. No one. He's simply the greatest I've ever seen
lol the tired defense argument again, how original.
Regular season defense means jack in post season. No SB winners has bad defenses in post season making this argument pointless. Furthermore, Brady offense outranked his team's defense in like 19 of his 23 season too.
A guy with a 12-10 playoff record and 1-4 in nfc championship games isn't the goat.
Im a packers fan and i always went with the stats and he is statically better
This is always how i look at goat comparison.. pick 1 qb in their prime to get you toudy in less than 2 min. Its rodg/mahones, or ur a fool. The ability to evade defenders, throw on run accuracy, arm strength.. 12 is my guy! "That's my qb." 👓😥
This is like saying if Deshaun Watson wasn’t a rapist he’d be the best quarterback of all time.
What 😂
I never really thought about this, Im going to try and copy this
Yessir 🙌🙌
The guy sat his first 3 seasons. His stats are even more amazing when you take that into consideration.
There's more to being the greatest of all time than just arm talent. Your attitude is what is unfortunately prevalent in the draft and why people actually believe the nfl combine is important (it isn't).What makes a GOAT? It's what's going on above the neck, sacrifice, and work ethic. They elevate their teammates to the next level. Danny Amendola, Julian Edelman, and Chris Hogan were hardly Jerry Rice, but Brady made them look that way. GOATs, no matter the sport, have something you can't teach. Aaron Rodgers is one of the great quarterbacks, but he isn't the GOAT.
Aaron is not the most talented qb ever.
He is ONE of MANY
You should do a video like this for Drew Brees
The ultimate team sport therefore the best position player shouldn't be judged on team accomplishments
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How’s Mahomes not the most talented of all time the only person I would take over Mahomes is maybe maybe a young Rodgers
Curious to see how that Achilles effects that pop foot given its his lead leg. I think it was be more concerning if it was on his rear leg where all the power is generating from.
Same, after watching the Tom Brady roast I was like..woah. Tom Brady gets so much love as the goat but even Tom Brady himself has said that A-Rod is more talented than he is.
I think Dan Marino is the goat but good video.
Dan Marino? 👀 what makes him the goat?
He did so many thing with a NFL that focused on the run game but I do agree that Aaron Rogers has the best throwing Motion
Check the stats and he didn’t have a lot of super star wide receivers…
most accurate qb of all time
Tom is the winning goat while Aaron is the most talented QB goat.
I wouldn't say 12 is the GOAT, but easily he is the BOAT. Great video, even though it brought back some major PTSD, lol. 2014, 2012, 2020 and especially 2021, just brutal. I can't even...
Major ptsd 😂 I grew up a Seahawks fan tho
You know, this was going well until you said that Aaron Rodgers hated Jordan love. This has never been true. Having been in Jordan’s situation in the past when he was drafted to replace Brett Favre, instead of making no things difficult, he actually helped Jordan Love as confirmed by both himself, Jordan love, and the staff. Get your facts straight
He is a nice thrower is about it
Amen!
aaron rodgers is a better qb physically, tom brady is better as a leader. and mentally
no
it's simple really.. put rodgers on your goat's team and put your goat on the packers... I guarantee you the team with rodgers gets better and i can bet you the packers get worse (maybe****** stay the same). this man is DIFFERENT than anything we have ever seen or currently seeing. Yes that includes ketchup boy in kansas city.
way too many excuses...
1 sb and soon too retire
As far as talent...unparalleld
I'm a packers fan and I was too young to see our superbowl. I believe in jordan love though especially since he was trained by arod and our defense looks promising.
I think this comes down to what people define as "goat". Mahomes is already receiving compliments calling him the new "goat" because he has 3 rings. If mahomes didnt had only one 1 ring nobody would be considering him. "Goat" is just used as "most accomplished" now which I believe is unfortunate. I'm a Packers fan so I might be a little bias but I completely agree that he's the best mechanical qb ever.
Best isn't greatest. So I 100% agree with you
Tom Clements doesnt get enough praise.
How so?
Steve young?
Lmao dude trying to think his way into the nfl
Kurt warner used to bag groceries
and he is more talented than rodgers
Lmaoooo okay man 😂
to be fair Aaron Rodgers was a heavy stat padder. I think he is a great qb, but I can"t stand guys who stat pad.
When the heck did he “stat pad”??
Stat pad? He couldve broken the record for most passing TDs in a game. He had 6 at the half against the bears. Didnt play in the second half
I love rodgers, but idk about him being the goat, but he is still amazing I like Montana
Dan Marino
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I think that if Rodger’s goes on to win the Super Bowl this coming season, which based on everything you said in this video, he has the best chance of his career to do, then he will be my undisputed GOAT and probably many other people’s as well.
I don't like Aaron Rodgers as much as some other qb's such as, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Peyton and Eli Manning, and Patrick Mahomes,
Let's also not forget that Rodgers never had the luxury of a good defense and high priced receivers. If not for Aaron Jones he wouldn't be Rodgers.
Rodgers won a Super Bowl and 2 MVPs before Jones came into the league. What are you taking about
He a drama king. Stats are not everything. Great QB. Not best ever.
Ive been saying this too, hes just insane and people who say brady us better just look at team accolades to fuel their arguments
He is the GOAT of Underachieving, stop excluding Championships! Thats the Lebron James Logic..
Patrick Maholmes?
I love arod. W video dimes.❤
Ty bro 🤝
Experienced football players know Aaron is the most talented QB. He is also the smartest @ reading Defenses and changing plays @ the line.
He carried Green Bay for years. GB doesn't have an owner and the Front Office guys were
questionable as they didn't construct good Defenses and Special Teams were the worst in the
NFL for years-ST are still weak.
No he’s not. He’s come up short way too many times in the playoffs. It matters when you do incredible things.
My G.O.A.T
John elway?
sorry mahomes is already above rodgers and has more talent then him, most talented qb was just a cope for not being brady and now mahomes