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People who blame nostalgia often don't understand the concept. Yes I play it because of nostalgia, it was so good that it makes me nostalgic thinking about it. How many people do you see being nostalgic about the Frostburn update? None, because it was trash. Nostalgia is a symptom, not the cause.
Nostalgia for something that isn't actually good is a thing tho. I used to play the shit out of Ratatouille for the XBox and have a lot of nostalgia for it, but it's really not a very good game.
@@StarLightShadowsthat's the difference. I also have nostalgia for some trash games I used to play as a kid but enjoying them now is impossible for me. It's very different story when you have nostalgia AND the game is good
The Aesthetics of old minecraft feel better in my opinion. I believe that those textures ARE why the game is so recognized today. It was new, different and felt very video gamey. The new versions just don't feel *square*
I think it’s because they feel unique to minecraft. It was a very unique and often ugly (but complimentary) palette made of a limited number of blocks. If we’re just strictly talking about aesthetics, as good as the new architecture looks, it feels like it evolved more in line with the adventure side of the modding community like twilight forest and various mod packs. Minecraft is more of a full on fantasy action sandbox than a survival/builder sandbox, and it is so so noticeable in the aesthetics/pace of the game.
guess thats why i most of the time prefer programmer art rather than the newer textures, also found a texture pack that sort of "blends" the newer and old textures, but forgot the name sadly
Aesthetics at the end is so real. I would hate to ever argue over it seeing as it's so subjective, but I totally agree that the vibes are just not the same :P
There still are a lot of good arguments for it. The fog is almost objectively better, and most of the textures apparently used to be derivatives of other textures, which makes them all fit together better. And with more contrast within the textures, contrast between the textures in adjacent blocks is less ugly. And the terrain is way more inspiring.
@@vinsplayer2634 don't get me started on how good (and interconnected!) the old textures are, I love them more than most! totally also agree that the terrain is more conducive to cool/interesting builds and ideas. even in beta 1.7.3 I would say there are already some worse textures, as I really like the old cobblestone and bricks
This is a very interesting video to me, as I really do enjoy both old minecraft and new minecraft a lot. But I sort of, play new minecraft as if it was old minecraft, if that makes sense? I took my experiences from old minecraft that I like and brought it into modern minecraft I guess, and the game becomes a lot more fun that way. I never use mending, for example, nor make iron farms, and instead choose to go mining for iron often which is REALLY fun for me because I really enjoy the modern cave systems and cave biomes a ton, and I even mostly stick to iron armor. I augment my play to how I prefer I suppose- for example i NEVER trade with villagers simply because I find it boring, and I choose to treat them as characters so I don't steal loot or food or beds from them, thus that leads to a bit more challenge and yet also simplicity for my style. Liking the aesthetics of older minecraft is totally fair- while I prefer the modern "refined pixel artist" style of the new versions, I think newer minecraft has things to learn from older minecraft, namely in its use of atmospheric fog, and its iconic sound design. I've got resource packs that make the grass stepping sound sound a bit like the classic stepping sound while also being more naturalistic, the old iconic water splashing, the old "oough!" mixed with the modern player damage sound, among other things. It feels nice and I think modern minecraft could do some of this without compromising it's current art direction, you know? Bridge the gap a bit! Your complaint about wolf armor and armadillos was striking though- as, features like armadillo scutes are something I actually appreciate about the modern game. It adds features that offers creative solutions to common community wants and desires- for example, adding more life to minecraft's warm biomes and resources to gather from it makes that area of the game feel unique compared to others, and encourages exploration, or makes your expereince feel different should you choose to stay there. But just adding an ambient animal that doesn't do anything has been greatly frowned upon in the past.. armadillos are known for their protective shells, and wolf armor has been a very commonly requested feature. Tying this string of desires from the community together into a nice little bow is creative and interesting to me, and I really appreciate the armadillo's design for that. Plus, wolf armor being made of scutes justifies why it works differently than regular ore, completely protecting the wolf until it breaks- it works differently than player armor and horse armor. It's a totally different material with different properties. So not only is it a creative solution, but it makes its own mechanics feel natural. And since you need scutes to repair the wolf armor, they never stop becoming useful as long as you actually use wolves. That's the sort of thing I appreciate about the modern game's design!
Hee hee I went to your channel to only find out I am already a subscriber. I reckon I will binge watch for a while. Happy crafting. -signed CreakyCraftr (I will be 71 in March)
I just started a new Beta 1.7.3 world and its the most fun I've had playing Minecraft since discovering BTA. I already have a neat little mining camp with a home next to it. I am planning on starting a town in a forest nearby and making a Germanic Castle next to it. I am very excited to keep playing and I plan on posting world updates in the near future, so happy I took the plunge into Beta!
i like a lot of Modern Minecraft, but after beginning to play Better Than Adventure - i've never felt more motivated or creative when playing the game. i really feel like i can just build at my leisure without the other objectives annoying me in the back of my mind. sure i can just ignore them, but they're always gonna be there in the back of my head, and some resources i want to build with are tied to progression based areas if i want to make my build exactly how i want it. the world of Old Minecraft really feels like it's what you make of it, you decide the story, atmosphere, everything. and it really confuses me how people get hostile towards people that prefer the old stuff. like, is it necessary to justify why we prefer a version of a game where the entire point is you can mold it to how your wishes? i like Modern Minecraft, but i love Old Minecraft too. keep up the awesome content man!
@@MountainRocky456 And who says that? I've never had 30 people randomly join my world and tell me I'm the scum of the earth because the way I build. It's a really stupid excuse to not play new versions
@@kahale Villages are a prime example of this. Village architecture is very simple and easy to do, but does look good, especially the spruce ones. Most people think they either need to build a dirt hut or a giant 198832 block palette textured build to look good
I agree with most of these points! I really hate when people use "Nostalgia" as an argument, I myself started playing minecraft when the latest version was 1.8.8. And I discovered beta minecraft few years after the fact. Older versions have their own charm into it. While I don't play old minecraft as my primary version, I usually prefer it over vanilla modern minecraft, When I play modern versions I always play with mods.
I joined the Minecraft party a little late. I think my favorite version is probably 1.18 just because I like the landscapes and deep slate as a block, along with lush caves. Since I didn’t start playing till about 1.16, the progression from stone to iron to diamond to netherite/elytra feels natural to me, and I was actually a little disappointed when they made it harder to get netherite. But I do agree that modern Minecraft with the constant updates has started to feel exhausting. Like I find myself not caring about the sniffers and trial chambers and whatnot.
One thing that really bugged me about minecraft when it got added was villages specifically because they let you skip a ton of progression, and that always bummed me. It's nice to find cool treasure in sunken ships and such, but it's very easy to just beeline for spots where you know treasure'll be and just play that way. I don't think there's anything wrong with this, but when so much of modern minecraft's gameplay gives you so many options to avoid playing the survival crafting elements of minecraft, it almost makes it feel like minecraft is embarrassed of its own foundation. Despite this, I still play modern minecraft, because I just don't feel like the way I play the game has changed much, despite the game becoming more accessible to people who prefer to play in other ways. I still build my silly houses, I still go out and explore, and I still undertake very stupid and lengthy construction projects. I do wish there was an in-game way to disable the wandering trader, though. Though, I will say, and maybe this is just me, but modern minecraft does sometimes feel like... well... modded minecraft? A lot of the newer features do feel tacked on, like disconnected mods.
I personally enjoy release 1.7.10 because I feel like its the last version where the game felt like an indie project (well, makes sense since mojang was sold to Microsoft at that year). I think of it as a balanced mixture between old and modern Minecraft. and its modding scene is one of the biggest.
"nostalgia" is the worst argument people make against old minecraft imo. "Oh, you only like it because it makes you feel nostalgic". No, brother, I didn't even play this version as a kid, I started in 1.4.2. In fact, I'd say the majority of the Golden Age community didn't play the game before the full release version. Also, but anyone who's ever gone back to their childhood memories at least once in their life knows that nostalgia will only get you so far. No one is going to spend hundreds of hours playing a game simply for nostalgia's sake. If that were the case, the game would get boring very quickly
i dont get how a mob dropping an item is different from it being structure loot, but i do see that updates tend to be more about relevancy than anything really substantial, thats why instead of holding off and making major releases every few years they instead decided to make smaller updates every few months, it is better for that. Modern's progression does suck but it's pretty easy to ignore for me. These are some good points, I mainly just play modern for the block selection and varied methods of obtaining them, I played beta recently and quite enjoyed it til i realised i felt like i was running out of blocks. I guess it might've just been my limited familiarity but probably also the fact i just lost everything to water pushing a bit harder than i remembered, Ah well.
I play modern (well, 1.21.4, for now) completely vanilla minus my own datapack to add green & brown dye recipes. (The jungle is 2.7k blocks away & desert is 7k blocks away. F that, all dyes should be easily obtainable) - Consistency I'm not affected by what you described in this section. I do play a modern version but unless I have a good reason to switch I'm sticking to the one I'm on. - Progression I'm not really affected by this either (yet?) I've been playing on my world for a week, have around 15 in-game hours, & never traveled out side the overworld. Progression in the sense of better tools feels hollow to me because I don't really need them. Right now I only use stone tools & leather armor. The mining speed increase is almost nothing to me, durability is solved by spamming cheap tools/armor, I rarely fight so I never fear for my life, & it's all around not a significant enough improvement for me to actually want them. Also I just really like the more stone-age vibe of using stone tools & leather armor, hehe. I do feel rewarded for my work but I get that through the stuff I build rather then my tools/armor. I basically treat it like a sandbox like old Minecraft... huh. - Performance 12 chunks works for me :D I also have a good computer so this isn't an issue for me - Aesthetics I personally like modern's vibes, might prefer it, not sure. - Closing (mine not yours) I think I overall I like modern Minecraft because I ignore what annoys me & am able to play in the sandboxy nature I enjoy. It feels like older versions of Minecraft but more.
I play old Minecraft because it’s simple. Almost every modern game, whether an indie or AAA title, feels like a 2nd job. Throughout my years in school, games (almost exclusively Minecraft) was a way for me to disconnect from my obligations in life and just get lost in a virtual world. Being 22 and having a real job and responsibilities, I don’t have the brain capacity to play these modern games; you have to buy it for $70 but the game is half baked. Bug fixes come over time. Then, you gotta buy a battle pass to progress further or else you fall behind and can’t compete. Alternatively these battle passes are completely cosmetic, but that’s where the attention to detail goes because that’s how these barrel scraping game companies make a quick buck. I exclusively play beta 1.7.3, I have been for a while, outside of the two week Minecraft binge with my friends. It’s simple and straight to the point. There’s a nostalgia factor in there somewhere as well. Most importantly for me, I don’t feel exhausted or as if I’m wasting my time. I feel a sense of relief from life and accomplishment whenever I finish a build. I have been itching to play multiplayer in this version too. Just haven’t gotten around to it.
While I don't personally agree with a lot of the criticisms towards modern in this video, I really like the editing and vibe of this video! I'm calling it, this vids gonna blow up
We've got a minecraft world that we keep updating at every major update. It's our 'forever world' that we are not likely to ever stop hosting. The lore keeps growing, things keep getting added. It's nice, but sometimes I wish we'd stuck to beta and see what epic things we might've come up with in all these years , as far as builds and transportation go.
For me playing b1.7.3, especially modded, feels like stepping into an old Let's Play video. I got into Minecraft as a young child in b1.8.1, so I was always used to hunger, sprinting, etc. But I had been watching Minecraft content for years prior to actually playing it.
You can always play more modern version of Minecraft and never change the version. I for example love version 1.16 because I played a lot of the Nether Update with my siblings and I have special memories from that time. Also I think it is a very modern but less "nonsense" version of the game. Anyways, the major advantage of Java Edition is the option to pick the version, so anything is possible!
I completely share your stance about "Consistentcy", it's partly why I fell out of Minecraft, because it always felt like my Worlds become "obselete" each year. Thankfully today, I can just stick to one version, but it's mostly one version Post-1.15, because I absolutely love Buffet Worlds as I'm stuck with one Biome. See, Mojang keeps adding bloat like the Sniffer, but in a Basalt Deltas World, there is no such thing as Sandstone or Terracota, but you can be creative with Blackstone, create Diorite, Granite, & Andesite using Nether Quartz, or use said Quartz for Marble, etc. Having less resources somehow makes you be more creative, but I also love the challenge of having less commodities like the Overworld Trees, the Crimson & Warped Forests made me look for ways to cripple myself for a very cool challenge. The Void Biome is one of my favorites because of its extreme tedium, but highly rewarding to manage to survive in it.
Thank you for this great video, it is true that old minecraft has a lot of pros, and I strongly agree with the fact that the "rpgization" of the game breaks the first concept in a way, and especially progression. But my favorite thing to do in Minecraft is to find a way to use the new blocs; even if you can do great things with the blocs from old versions, it is so much satisfying to think about the best blocs to use for your building, and then go try to find a large quantity of them. There are also so much new combinations possible each time Mojang adds a new block. I srsly couldn't live without the ton of different woods, the deepslate, the granite/diorite/andesite trio, all the blocs from the Nether, etc... I could probably have a similar experience with mods though (Sorry for my english, I'm a frog eater)
I agree with pretty everything said, but especially the first point, simplicity, very much. Sometimes less is more, and I feel that's certainly true for minecraft. Anyway the whole was thoughtfully put together and well presented. Thank you for this! I felt as with someone wrapped up all my thoughts in an elegant way.
I quit every world or a server in modern Minecraft after maxing out my tools. The last time I played survival in modern Minecraft was in 2021 on version 1.17 and after that I stopped because I realized it goes the same way every time. But last year I played on Paladin Ryan's Beta 1.7.3 SMP and the stuff I built there was the most I've ever done on any world (even more than in new versions). EVER. And I've been playing since release 1.0. There really is something in old Minecraft that makes you want to play more than new Minecraft.
No, it's just that you were playing Minecraft as if it was an RPG before for some reason instead of building and doing other entertaining things and because in Beta you're literally forced to have the latter playstyle, you enjoy Beta more.
I play Beta 1.7.3 because I think it had the best balance out of any Minecraft version. The shorter progression meant diamond gear wasn't overpowered and you could still survive challenges with stone tier equipment. The lack of hunger and food stacking meant a lone mob didn't have to be capable of singlehandedly killing you in order to pose a real threat (Spiders became obsolete the moment food stacking and hunger was added.) In general, everything was a lot more dynamic in Beta, you never quite knew what challenge the game was going to throw at you next and you could get some real wild and wacky cave generation.
I’ve never actually played old Minecraft, I started playing pocket edition, then moved on to the 360 version. I didn’t even touch Java until 1.14 or so. I think I have to agree with just about everything you’ve said. The only thing I disagree with is your point about the lack of an intrinsic goal in old Minecraft. Building things is fine, but I think Minecraft really needed that Ender Dragon fight and everything leading to it to be a complete game.
I'm glad you made a video about this, I'm tired of people who keep saying "you're blinded by nostalgia". No, I just prefer playing a version that doesn't focus entirely on progression that also requires looking up recipes, farms, redstone etc. Modern Minecraft is great in many aspects, I love it and I still play it sometimes, but these updates are exhausting the game and becoming like bloatware on a new computer.
Totally agree. While adding things to the game is nice, I feel like the vision got lost. A huge part of the game's charm, for me, is simplicity. Updates would be fine if they added simple things, not complicated ones. Not hating on the current updates at all, but I feel like I would prefer new real life animals, new crops, new flowers or new real life ores over having complicated, fantasy-oriented new content.
I have been on the same world for many years, I always update it but I don't use most of the newer things. To me I'd rather have some of the newer things to use, bundle, mace, chains, etc. I prefer the aesthetics and build style of old minecraft though.
Thanks for making this, I can now send this to someone next time I get asked why I play beta. I agree with all your reasons here. I do however use modern minecraft to draft builds in creative mode with the beta block palette, which I'll screenshot and replicate in beta.
I think you're absolutely right! The game was still being developed with a vision and the actual gameplay in mind, rather than the $$$. It sort of feels like Beta Minecraft is just finished. It's done. This is the game, like you would get a game when you bought a CD-ROM. It had to be finished and more importantly; good enough! Also nice editing!
To be perfectly honest, I love playing in Modern Minecraft... but only in Creative mode and only in my "Forever" World. I don't feel bored because I'm building a gigantic map with a ton of houses, castles and others things that are connected to each other. When I'm playing in this kind of way, I feel like I'm really playing in a "sand box" game. I think the biggest problem in Modern Minecraft is that Survival Mode has been so complexify with time that is lost his soul in the process. Even if don't play Beta yet, I love the look of the Minecraft of these days and I use occasionnaly the "Golden Days" Texture pack just to tranform my world into something that look "fresh" again. I also like the old "fog" feature of the old Minecraft that has been completely change since the 1.0.0 version of the game.
Same. I like the new blocks to choose from so I can create different "feels" for different parts of my world. A more dynamic pallette. I also agree with the survival and progression situation as said in the video. Also, without modification, I think the natural world doesn't look very nice and I wish it could look more like it does in Minecraft Dungeons.
Progression is the main issue with me. Modern minecraft completely ruined it for me. Even though I actually prefer all the other newer stuff added since but old minecraft was definitely better in terms of balance, pacing, and progression.
i play 1.12.2 cause the modding scene is amazing plus i enjoy mrcrayfish's mods, and with the insane amount of mods released for 1.12.2 i can virtually make anything out of minecraft, and the maps created for 1.12.2 too
The aesthetic really is unmatched, it brings out such a whimsical creativity in me its insane. Plus with the older textures and lighting + how the game generally used to be, it allows you to not have to go insanely all out in detail and design to make a build look decent, cause if you updated the average beta build to modern then chances are it doesn't look good lol. But in beta anything you make no matter how high or low effort, it'll more than likely look cool.
Exactly how I feel, explained everything perfectly as well. Minecraft nowadays gets boring fast because I get frustrated of all the new shit there is now, maybe it’s because I was a kid and loved having my imagination run wild while playing but playing now, it’s just complicated
I agree. I really enjoy the old Minecraft versions. I love the game and feel a lot of nostalgia (My dad showed me alpha Minecraft when I was 4 years old. I got my own account when I was older and ALWAYS played 1.8 Minecraft.) I also played it on a computer setup made when I was born. I love it. I also really love 1.7.3 and how it feels. No other game is like this in my opinion. I have never paid attention to the new additions to the game. I love Minecraft so much but sacrificing the quality of the game just to generate relevance and discussion is horrible. I have a deep love for this game, and I appreciate everything about old Minecraft. It's so beautiful. While the new Minecraft looks "better" (quality increased), it doesn't look better. I have played a variety of versions and I will never pick the newer ones. It's just trash.
i dont really have a problem with performance or simplicity. as for the aesthethics, i use mods like Hybrid Beta to bring back the old school terrain generation, and texture packs like Programmer Art Continuation to keep the retro aesthetic of the textures (I also lower my lighting and my graphics settings to look like the older versions of Pocket Edition). In general I like playing Mineraft modded, and there are so many good mods for 1.20.1 and 1.19.2. Its a whole new world, and these mods can make Minecraft feel fresh without stripping away it's charm.
Not about the points at all, but the music choice is so good, I love how it's a bunch of C418 songs and then radiohead and GoGo Penguin is randomly in there LOL Keep up the stella work!! :D
I started Minecraft when it came out for the xBox. I played that version until last year. I was also playing Java because of the modding ability. But I mostly stayed with Bedrock because my son had a realm I played on. (I must say at this point that I was 56 in 2012 and my son was in his late 30's) He would not turn on co-ordinates and that was fine I had over 100 portals in that realm and carried 4 shulker boxes full of maps to get around. (I had portals that were a 10-minute train ride apart in the nether.) Then Microsoft "fixed" the maps. I rage quit after all that time and just decided that I would only play versions before Microsoft got ahold of it. (I was also mad when they killed Cortana in Halo, but I digress. ) I have 5 or 6 modded worlds that are mostly 1.8 or earlier, and I am happy that what I play will never change unless I want it to. I love the journey map and a few Quality of Life mods and sometimes (since I am retired) play 8 or 10 hours most times and never get tired of my worlds. I am happy like this and since I only got so much time before the curtain comes down, I want my gaming to be stress-free. Thank you for listening - signed CreakyCraftr.
Great vid. I agree with all of these points as part of the reasons I play old Minecraft. It’s a shame people are so quick to point at nostalgia for the reason because for a large portion of golden age players, it’s not a close factor.
7:31 I play Alpha/Beta for a couple of reasons: 1. For a couple of years, i only had a dell computer that wouldn't really run that well, it couldn't really run modern minecraft, anything above 1.16 just would lag like hell, and i would play older versions like Alpha/Beta cuz they actually would run really well and i because i liked playing those kind of versions. 2. I got into those older versions because of Grians Evo SMP series, and that series made me really like Alpha/Beta, and i think its pretty cool and really simple and i just like the certain vibe that it has. 3. Obviously i didn't grow up playing Alpha/Beta because i started in 2016 on Release 1.8, and im also really young, but i still like playing those really old versions, even though if its something that alot of more older players did experience, and is something i didn't get to experience and something other younger players didn't get to experience too, but even though its like that, i still really like Alpha/Beta and im glad i get to experience playing those versions now, way way way after older players have played it.
Hah. I bought a new Mac Mini with the M1 chip and 8gb ram a couple years ago but It can't play modern Minecraft. I also bought a new Dell G5 for the NVIDIA graphics, but after I couldn't output anything to my LG 86inch gaming TV except the pedestrian Intel Graphics. (both my fault I guess). Happy Retro guy now.
I see your points! I agree with them for the most part. I do like some of the stuff added in the later updates, and the modding in the later versions is a bit more of what I like to have, but at the same time I think you're onto something. Maybe I'll give old minecraft a try.
i dont really play old minecraft and i enjoy a lot of what the modern update brings, but i consciously try to approach it with old minecraft mindset (if that makes sense)
ive never played old minecraft sice it came out. Ive always played the newest update, and done all the things you said in this video. when i saw this video in my feed, i was lowk gonna hate, but now that ive watched the video, ive came to realize all the shortcomings of the modern game, all the things i hate, like the cheesy progression (my main concern) even down to the colors, are all fixed by going back in time, and i look forward to trying a game ive both played for over many years, yet havent tried in over a decade. thanks for the enlightenment, cheers.
i like aesthetics of old minecraft and the experience in its simplicity, in beta 1.7.3 i use texture pack to bring back the cobblestone texture from beta 1.6.6 and earlier lol
i like older minecraft and i totally agree with all your points! though, i don't play it often cause i feel that there's significantly less to do in it. i get that it's much more simpler and i do like the indie vibes n stuff, but after you play it for like an hour or two and pretty much see everything there's not much incentive left to keep playing, i guess. modern minecraft has a bigger scope i'd say - there's so many things to do and stuff to find that you always just kinda have a goal and, frankly, this play-style suits me more. it does suffer from the same issue as older minecraft - that after you do everything the game has to offer theres not much incentive to play - but i feel like it has a significantly longer play-time before it gets boring.
if you enjoy the game primarily for its survival aspects i think the endgame in newer minecraft after you beat the enderdragon or even get a villager farm its wayy to easy but if you mainly focus on building with all the new blocks and decorations i think newer minecraft is just better
In all honesty I struggle to play mc for more than a few days at most. But the few times I've gone back to older versions like b1.7.3 or even when i started in 1.2 I just feel more at home then modern. The biggest problem with Modern is that there is no feeling of reward or even purpose because of how easy it is to just break the game. Place a few torches around a flat plane and boom you have 0 reason to build a base and you'll be perfectly safe. Need Materials = Make a farm aka break the game. But the biggest problem with modern is the overreliance on generated structures... If you turn off structures and make a world, 50% of the game gets removed. No end, No way to make Netherite, No way to get Heart of the ocean, or sniffers, or archeology, or the new trial chambers, cant make potions because no way to get blaze rods. and probably more that i just forgot about. Minecraft thrived in the old era because the W O R L D was what was unique and interesting to explore. Not what was inside that world. Finding dungeons were cool because they were rare and somewhat hard to find. Making a farm out of that same dungeon was also a reward for finding it in the first place and was always cool to find a way to make said farm but was never too strong because the mob drops were never too good. Modern can just be summed up with break the game so you dont have to play it and you can just build. which isnt mc in my opinion, it was the mixture of Building + Survival. and the whole "if you dont want mob farms dont make one" is a horrible argument. If you try to play mc normally without the farms after having them you will lose your mind. You now have forbidden knowledge and you cant "just get rid of farms" because you know how to make them, and they make things easier, so human nature kicks in and says "you could always just make a farm so x is easier" mob farms just shouldn't be in the game, period.
Very nice video. I completely understand and can see why you play these versions. I personally don't have time to do it, but I did once make a mod for it. The video editing also felt good.
i really appreciate how quickly old minecraft launches. 12 seconds from desktop to loaded into my world. other than that, modern minecraft doesn't really deliver more of what i want from minecraft. mostly everything i want from it was already in the version i bought in 2011. a lot of the new features distract from the reasons i actually love this game so much
I started playing Minecraft in version 1.12 or around this time. I’ve always been interested in Minecraft’s history, but never bothered to try the old versions. I like to play both beta 1.7.3 and modern versions, but I think I actually prefer vanilla beta for all the reasons mentioned. It also feels like a completely different game nowadays.
I play 1.5.2, and I honestly think it's some of the most fun I've had in gaming. It has a lot to do, but it isn't too crowded. It retains the classic feel and atmosphere; the very old textures and tone of the game are just so great. And the generation is so fun to build stuff on. I honestly love all the early release versions, and while I don't enjoy beta that much, I respect people who enjoy beta. This is a pretty neat video that sums up why people enjoy it so much. :P
Nostalgia is something I've seen and while one person's experience isn't enough to say no, I love beta Minecraft, and yet I only started playing Java sometime last year.
I randomly want to play old minecraft I start a world get a crafting table and then I get bored plus new minecraft has more things to do I'm nor trying to sound like I hate old minecraft I think it does a lot of things better the new minecraft
Have you heard of the mod that makes the modern game more like old minecraft? It has a bunch of customizable features and you can get rid of some features, tho i think the features now don't ruin the games simplicity Theres just more to do now and the game is constantly changing either small or big which i think makes the game much more fun to replay and see what has changed
Elytras and hoppers destroyed Minecraft. Everything else, a thousand mistakes by Mojang, can either be fixed or overlooked, but these two items have become so deeply embedded in the idea of the new Minecraft and its gameplay, with the community supporting them, that they’ll never even consider fixing (removing) them. No matter how amazing the new updates are, everything will always come down to auto-farming and flying - meaning after 100 hours of gameplay, you’re in legal creative mode, boredom sets in, and another world wipe comes along, signaling the end of the 2-3 week Minecraft cycle. Mojang really knows how to back their games into a corner...
For a first essay video, I like it a lot. Really well edited and put together. I mainly play modern versions since I have a Realms server with my friends so we're kinda forced to play the newer versions. (Not that we don't like it) I've thought about giving Beta 1.7.3 and BTA a go but I'm still yet to do my research on these launchers people always tell me to use. I've always used the vanilla launcher since I started playing, and logging in with my account in a third-party launcher makes me think twice. Maybe I'll give it a go, eventually. Who knows. I'm very protective of my account, and I usually don't trust things at face value unless it's open source or something like that. (Feel free to comment if launchers like MultiMC are safe). Unrelated but I thought you should know this: I made a replica of your cactus farm on my Realms server. I love recreating old buildings on modern versions. It's like real life, where everything we have today, from buildings and vehicles to tools and electronics, are based on already stablished designs from the past when said things were invented.
The vanilla launcher is fine enough to play old versions. When it comes to modding though, the vanilla launcher still works in that regard, but MultiMC is far superior in this since mods for older versions were much different than what we have now. I can assure you that MultiMC is safe though as I use it myself for my own modified version of Beta 1.7.3.
Like the other person said, you can play old versions with the official launcher. Some sounds will be wrong though (using the modern versions rather than the original versions). Also, the Betacraft launcher does not require you to log in. You just type a username (any username actually, doesn’t have to be yours) and play in offline mode.
Beta 1.7.3 to me feels complete. I first started playing Minecraft around the time 1.2 rolled out and kept playing each release until 1.7, which for me was a turning point because each update from here felt very out of place. Second hand, ugly new biomes, attack cooldown, elytra... Around this time I ventured back to 1.7.3 because I knew it was the last update before hunger. I loved it at first sight. The colors were vibrant, performance was high and the whole thing felt complete. There are a few things that came later that I wish were in it however, like the rest of the music discs, the fishing animation, working furnace minecarts... I still sometimes play release but every world last only until the dragon is defeated and not an hour more. It's still a fun game, hundreds of millions play it but release to me feels like how Hexxit, Wrath of the Void, Yogbox and other modpacks, fun additions and all but far from the main idea.
I personally have been playing on a server called Modern Beta where you can join on a vanilla modern (like 1.20 and 1.21) versions with no mods necessary at all and the community is nice as well. The things that people have built look amazing and you can build anything and it'd just look.. cool, like even a basic building that would normally look just not that good on a modern version just looks like it fits the area even if it's around an amazingly detailed building.
Minecraft in current day has felt more plastic-y to me, if that makes sense. Like it feels wrong, but it’s “technically” the same game I played as a kid, but it just feels more like a knockoff or sidegame than anything.
5:55 When I first played beta, I was surprised by the game launching into the main menu instantly compared how long it takes the modern game to take. But, I play it for pretty much all of the reasons you do. The modern game feels too "corporate", and even when I do play it, I _have_ to go full in on any resource packs that revert the look of the game to pre-1.14. It might seem minor to some people, but I can't state enough how much I hate the new artstyle. It lacks the soul and feels so soft and safe.
Things I don’t like in modern minecraft: Dog armour. It’s not necessary. Wind charges and the mace, as cool as it is to have a tf2 loadout in Minecraft it isn’t really fitting compared to the other tools of the game, as most tools in game follow a very basic use, and are pretty much flat models. Copper. It sometimes has its uses in building, since it’s a nice selection of colours. but overall It’s useless. The trail chambers. I have maybe been in….one? I never thought to go out looking for one, mainly because it isn’t interesting. The retexturing of certain mobs. (I Believe it’s cows and pigs) if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Armadillos, phantoms, sniffers, allay, axolotl, camels, foxes and breeze. I don’t think these mobs fit the game, they make me thing I am in a modded version of the game every time I see them. I would not miss them if they were removed from the game. Things I think need work. Woodland mansions, I think they are the coolest structures but look a little dated, I would fix em up a bit, and put better loot in them Mine carts, goes without saying. Boats. Some bigger boats with sails or so would be cool in my opinion. Pillagers, just don’t make them drop totems. Reserve that for the woodland mansions. Witch hut, they are so useless and dated it’s almost funny. Jungle temples, again, really dated. Biomes in general, some are just real boring, and need a bit of extra plant life, structures or mobs added in them, this being swamps, and almost all forests for that matter. Seed generation, as the nether and caves got updated to be more worthy to explore, the surface world less so, there are a few cases like mountains and cliffs, but otherwise the world feels really flat End dimension. Needs a-lot of work. Things I think are great: Frogs, the swamp could have used a swampy creature, and it got one, Decorative pots, scaffolding make’s interior building that bit easier Nether update, ocean update, village and pillage update, and caves and cliffs update. Made those areas way better to explore. Let me know what you think
except you can still do all of this in the newer versions of the game? you can just not trade with villagers for mending, you can just not build an iron golem farm for infinite iron, etc. etc.
I play both versions since all my friends like the newer versions more, but I like beta 1.7.3 the most. The modern versions just feel random and unpolished, like its so much stuff added that just doesnt really ahve a place to fit in to. Its like the devs just pump out random stuff, id rather wait 2 years but then have a good fitting update that feels right.
I've never been good at describing things to people yk? so when i can't tell someone why i like old minecraft more, and that i just like it more; they tell me it's nostalgia i have to tell them over and over it isn't. I've been playing beta for the past few years exclusively over modern and i talk about it a fair share in mc communities, so i'm grateful to have some one who is able to better put my feelings to words in a similar way.
I have exclusively and strictly played Minecraft for the PlayStation 3 for my entire life. I don't do it for nostalgia. I do it because I prefer it to modern Minecraft. I've played modern Minecraft, can I have access to modern consoles... but I really don't care. I like Minecraft, Minecraft PS3 Edition
This is the first video essay I’ve ever made, so please let me know what you think in the comments and if you’d like to see more! If you’re interested in my content or old Minecraft in general, join my discord where we talk about it and share our worlds: discord.gg/dDWJZxXg9B
(Also, I recently launched a second channel with a chill, down to Earth series. Here’s a link to the first official episode, if you have time, I’d really appreciate a watch! ruclips.net/video/evzk6LU0dXI/видео.htmlsi=O3mSoA4SZnqexzXo)
next thing you know some rage baiter/redditor
will make a video titled
MONGSTERS VIDEO SUCKS
HERES WHY HIS VIDEO IS TRASH
some really creative editing in this one, i appreciate the Progression transition using the lighting. super cool
@ can’t wait for the drama. So hyped
People who blame nostalgia often don't understand the concept. Yes I play it because of nostalgia, it was so good that it makes me nostalgic thinking about it. How many people do you see being nostalgic about the Frostburn update? None, because it was trash.
Nostalgia is a symptom, not the cause.
Brilliantly put.
How do I pin a comment? This is genius
@@MatikTheSeventh only the maker of a video can pin a comment
Nostalgia for something that isn't actually good is a thing tho. I used to play the shit out of Ratatouille for the XBox and have a lot of nostalgia for it, but it's really not a very good game.
@@StarLightShadowsthat's the difference. I also have nostalgia for some trash games I used to play as a kid but enjoying them now is impossible for me. It's very different story when you have nostalgia AND the game is good
The Aesthetics of old minecraft feel better in my opinion. I believe that those textures ARE why the game is so recognized today. It was new, different and felt very video gamey. The new versions just don't feel *square*
I think it’s because they feel unique to minecraft. It was a very unique and often ugly (but complimentary) palette made of a limited number of blocks. If we’re just strictly talking about aesthetics, as good as the new architecture looks, it feels like it evolved more in line with the adventure side of the modding community like twilight forest and various mod packs.
Minecraft is more of a full on fantasy action sandbox than a survival/builder sandbox, and it is so so noticeable in the aesthetics/pace of the game.
guess thats why i most of the time prefer programmer art rather than the newer textures, also found a texture pack that sort of "blends" the newer and old textures, but forgot the name sadly
Aesthetics at the end is so real. I would hate to ever argue over it seeing as it's so subjective, but I totally agree that the vibes are just not the same :P
There still are a lot of good arguments for it. The fog is almost objectively better, and most of the textures apparently used to be derivatives of other textures, which makes them all fit together better. And with more contrast within the textures, contrast between the textures in adjacent blocks is less ugly. And the terrain is way more inspiring.
@@vinsplayer2634 don't get me started on how good (and interconnected!) the old textures are, I love them more than most! totally also agree that the terrain is more conducive to cool/interesting builds and ideas. even in beta 1.7.3 I would say there are already some worse textures, as I really like the old cobblestone and bricks
agreed, i mainly play the modern versions because my friends and i have a modern server but i prefer the charm of the older versions a lot more
How? The vibes are the same just additions? They're quite the same.
You don't like netheracc though right?@@greffen
This is a very interesting video to me, as I really do enjoy both old minecraft and new minecraft a lot. But I sort of, play new minecraft as if it was old minecraft, if that makes sense? I took my experiences from old minecraft that I like and brought it into modern minecraft I guess, and the game becomes a lot more fun that way. I never use mending, for example, nor make iron farms, and instead choose to go mining for iron often which is REALLY fun for me because I really enjoy the modern cave systems and cave biomes a ton, and I even mostly stick to iron armor.
I augment my play to how I prefer I suppose- for example i NEVER trade with villagers simply because I find it boring, and I choose to treat them as characters so I don't steal loot or food or beds from them, thus that leads to a bit more challenge and yet also simplicity for my style.
Liking the aesthetics of older minecraft is totally fair- while I prefer the modern "refined pixel artist" style of the new versions, I think newer minecraft has things to learn from older minecraft, namely in its use of atmospheric fog, and its iconic sound design. I've got resource packs that make the grass stepping sound sound a bit like the classic stepping sound while also being more naturalistic, the old iconic water splashing, the old "oough!" mixed with the modern player damage sound, among other things. It feels nice and I think modern minecraft could do some of this without compromising it's current art direction, you know? Bridge the gap a bit!
Your complaint about wolf armor and armadillos was striking though- as, features like armadillo scutes are something I actually appreciate about the modern game. It adds features that offers creative solutions to common community wants and desires- for example, adding more life to minecraft's warm biomes and resources to gather from it makes that area of the game feel unique compared to others, and encourages exploration, or makes your expereince feel different should you choose to stay there. But just adding an ambient animal that doesn't do anything has been greatly frowned upon in the past.. armadillos are known for their protective shells, and wolf armor has been a very commonly requested feature. Tying this string of desires from the community together into a nice little bow is creative and interesting to me, and I really appreciate the armadillo's design for that.
Plus, wolf armor being made of scutes justifies why it works differently than regular ore, completely protecting the wolf until it breaks- it works differently than player armor and horse armor. It's a totally different material with different properties. So not only is it a creative solution, but it makes its own mechanics feel natural. And since you need scutes to repair the wolf armor, they never stop becoming useful as long as you actually use wolves. That's the sort of thing I appreciate about the modern game's design!
I play old minecraft because im old. Thats my answer. Good vid btw
Hee hee I went to your channel to only find out I am already a subscriber. I reckon I will binge watch for a while. Happy crafting. -signed CreakyCraftr (I will be 71 in March)
That's a not-so great answer compared to anyone under this video.
@ Yet...You left only this...
@@BANCLAMOFFICIAL Oh hey, love the nether challenge, can't wait for the ocean one :)
@@creakycracker Happy early birthday!
7:11 aw hell naw he giving insane backshots
I just started a new Beta 1.7.3 world and its the most fun I've had playing Minecraft since discovering BTA. I already have a neat little mining camp with a home next to it. I am planning on starting a town in a forest nearby and making a Germanic Castle next to it. I am very excited to keep playing and I plan on posting world updates in the near future, so happy I took the plunge into Beta!
i like a lot of Modern Minecraft, but after beginning to play Better Than Adventure - i've never felt more motivated or creative when playing the game. i really feel like i can just build at my leisure without the other objectives annoying me in the back of my mind. sure i can just ignore them, but they're always gonna be there in the back of my head, and some resources i want to build with are tied to progression based areas if i want to make my build exactly how i want it.
the world of Old Minecraft really feels like it's what you make of it, you decide the story, atmosphere, everything. and it really confuses me how people get hostile towards people that prefer the old stuff. like, is it necessary to justify why we prefer a version of a game where the entire point is you can mold it to how your wishes?
i like Modern Minecraft, but i love Old Minecraft too. keep up the awesome content man!
It's simple, it's better, doesn't feel like i need to become an exterior architect to disgn my building to looks nice.
Yep. Nowadays the building standard is that it must look like Grian's...
@@MountainRocky456 Not at all. You can still make the same cobblestone and oak wood building now that you made back then.
@@MountainRocky456 And who says that? I've never had 30 people randomly join my world and tell me I'm the scum of the earth because the way I build. It's a really stupid excuse to not play new versions
@@kahaleyet it still doesnt look as good in the newer versions as it would in the older ones
@@kahale Villages are a prime example of this. Village architecture is very simple and easy to do, but does look good, especially the spruce ones. Most people think they either need to build a dirt hut or a giant 198832 block palette textured build to look good
I agree with most of these points! I really hate when people use "Nostalgia" as an argument, I myself started playing minecraft when the latest version was 1.8.8. And I discovered beta minecraft few years after the fact. Older versions have their own charm into it. While I don't play old minecraft as my primary version, I usually prefer it over vanilla modern minecraft, When I play modern versions I always play with mods.
i like the way you make a lot of the text blend into a scene until the lighting changes or the text's drop shadow fades in or something. very nice
Thank you! I’ll do it more in the future.
I joined the Minecraft party a little late. I think my favorite version is probably 1.18 just because I like the landscapes and deep slate as a block, along with lush caves. Since I didn’t start playing till about 1.16, the progression from stone to iron to diamond to netherite/elytra feels natural to me, and I was actually a little disappointed when they made it harder to get netherite. But I do agree that modern Minecraft with the constant updates has started to feel exhausting. Like I find myself not caring about the sniffers and trial chambers and whatnot.
Watching this while sipping some peppermint tea, great video as always mong
One thing that really bugged me about minecraft when it got added was villages specifically because they let you skip a ton of progression, and that always bummed me. It's nice to find cool treasure in sunken ships and such, but it's very easy to just beeline for spots where you know treasure'll be and just play that way. I don't think there's anything wrong with this, but when so much of modern minecraft's gameplay gives you so many options to avoid playing the survival crafting elements of minecraft, it almost makes it feel like minecraft is embarrassed of its own foundation. Despite this, I still play modern minecraft, because I just don't feel like the way I play the game has changed much, despite the game becoming more accessible to people who prefer to play in other ways. I still build my silly houses, I still go out and explore, and I still undertake very stupid and lengthy construction projects. I do wish there was an in-game way to disable the wandering trader, though.
Though, I will say, and maybe this is just me, but modern minecraft does sometimes feel like... well... modded minecraft? A lot of the newer features do feel tacked on, like disconnected mods.
You’re not the first one to say mojang seems embarrassed of its game. Maybe a video topic for another day?
I personally enjoy release 1.7.10 because I feel like its the last version where the game felt like an indie project (well, makes sense since mojang was sold to Microsoft at that year). I think of it as a balanced mixture between old and modern Minecraft. and its modding scene is one of the biggest.
"nostalgia" is the worst argument people make against old minecraft imo. "Oh, you only like it because it makes you feel nostalgic". No, brother, I didn't even play this version as a kid, I started in 1.4.2. In fact, I'd say the majority of the Golden Age community didn't play the game before the full release version. Also, but anyone who's ever gone back to their childhood memories at least once in their life knows that nostalgia will only get you so far. No one is going to spend hundreds of hours playing a game simply for nostalgia's sake. If that were the case, the game would get boring very quickly
what sucks the most is not having the friends you used to play it with..
Rip couch co-op
i dont get how a mob dropping an item is different from it being structure loot, but i do see that updates tend to be more about relevancy than anything really substantial, thats why instead of holding off and making major releases every few years they instead decided to make smaller updates every few months, it is better for that. Modern's progression does suck but it's pretty easy to ignore for me. These are some good points, I mainly just play modern for the block selection and varied methods of obtaining them, I played beta recently and quite enjoyed it til i realised i felt like i was running out of blocks. I guess it might've just been my limited familiarity but probably also the fact i just lost everything to water pushing a bit harder than i remembered, Ah well.
I play modern (well, 1.21.4, for now) completely vanilla minus my own datapack to add green & brown dye recipes. (The jungle is 2.7k blocks away & desert is 7k blocks away. F that, all dyes should be easily obtainable)
- Consistency
I'm not affected by what you described in this section. I do play a modern version but unless I have a good reason to switch I'm sticking to the one I'm on.
- Progression
I'm not really affected by this either (yet?) I've been playing on my world for a week, have around 15 in-game hours, & never traveled out side the overworld. Progression in the sense of better tools feels hollow to me because I don't really need them. Right now I only use stone tools & leather armor. The mining speed increase is almost nothing to me, durability is solved by spamming cheap tools/armor, I rarely fight so I never fear for my life, & it's all around not a significant enough improvement for me to actually want them. Also I just really like the more stone-age vibe of using stone tools & leather armor, hehe.
I do feel rewarded for my work but I get that through the stuff I build rather then my tools/armor. I basically treat it like a sandbox like old Minecraft... huh.
- Performance
12 chunks works for me :D I also have a good computer so this isn't an issue for me
- Aesthetics
I personally like modern's vibes, might prefer it, not sure.
- Closing (mine not yours)
I think I overall I like modern Minecraft because I ignore what annoys me & am able to play in the sandboxy nature I enjoy. It feels like older versions of Minecraft but more.
I play old Minecraft because it feels like a blank canvas. I can draw whatever I want
I play old Minecraft because it’s simple. Almost every modern game, whether an indie or AAA title, feels like a 2nd job.
Throughout my years in school, games (almost exclusively Minecraft) was a way for me to disconnect from my obligations in life and just get lost in a virtual world. Being 22 and having a real job and responsibilities, I don’t have the brain capacity to play these modern games; you have to buy it for $70 but the game is half baked. Bug fixes come over time. Then, you gotta buy a battle pass to progress further or else you fall behind and can’t compete. Alternatively these battle passes are completely cosmetic, but that’s where the attention to detail goes because that’s how these barrel scraping game companies make a quick buck.
I exclusively play beta 1.7.3, I have been for a while, outside of the two week Minecraft binge with my friends. It’s simple and straight to the point. There’s a nostalgia factor in there somewhere as well. Most importantly for me, I don’t feel exhausted or as if I’m wasting my time. I feel a sense of relief from life and accomplishment whenever I finish a build.
I have been itching to play multiplayer in this version too. Just haven’t gotten around to it.
I really agree with your Consistency point!
While I don't personally agree with a lot of the criticisms towards modern in this video, I really like the editing and vibe of this video! I'm calling it, this vids gonna blow up
We've got a minecraft world that we keep updating at every major update. It's our 'forever world' that we are not likely to ever stop hosting. The lore keeps growing, things keep getting added. It's nice, but sometimes I wish we'd stuck to beta and see what epic things we might've come up with in all these years , as far as builds and transportation go.
For me playing b1.7.3, especially modded, feels like stepping into an old Let's Play video. I got into Minecraft as a young child in b1.8.1, so I was always used to hunger, sprinting, etc. But I had been watching Minecraft content for years prior to actually playing it.
You can always play more modern version of Minecraft and never change the version. I for example love version 1.16 because I played a lot of the Nether Update with my siblings and I have special memories from that time. Also I think it is a very modern but less "nonsense" version of the game. Anyways, the major advantage of Java Edition is the option to pick the version, so anything is possible!
I completely share your stance about "Consistentcy", it's partly why I fell out of Minecraft, because it always felt like my Worlds become "obselete" each year. Thankfully today, I can just stick to one version, but it's mostly one version Post-1.15, because I absolutely love Buffet Worlds as I'm stuck with one Biome.
See, Mojang keeps adding bloat like the Sniffer, but in a Basalt Deltas World, there is no such thing as Sandstone or Terracota, but you can be creative with Blackstone, create Diorite, Granite, & Andesite using Nether Quartz, or use said Quartz for Marble, etc. Having less resources somehow makes you be more creative, but I also love the challenge of having less commodities like the Overworld Trees, the Crimson & Warped Forests made me look for ways to cripple myself for a very cool challenge. The Void Biome is one of my favorites because of its extreme tedium, but highly rewarding to manage to survive in it.
Thank you for this great video, it is true that old minecraft has a lot of pros, and I strongly agree with the fact that the "rpgization" of the game breaks the first concept in a way, and especially progression.
But my favorite thing to do in Minecraft is to find a way to use the new blocs; even if you can do great things with the blocs from old versions, it is so much satisfying to think about the best blocs to use for your building, and then go try to find a large quantity of them. There are also so much new combinations possible each time Mojang adds a new block. I srsly couldn't live without the ton of different woods, the deepslate, the granite/diorite/andesite trio, all the blocs from the Nether, etc... I could probably have a similar experience with mods though
(Sorry for my english, I'm a frog eater)
I agree with pretty everything said, but especially the first point, simplicity, very much. Sometimes less is more, and I feel that's certainly true for minecraft. Anyway the whole was thoughtfully put together and well presented. Thank you for this! I felt as with someone wrapped up all my thoughts in an elegant way.
I quit every world or a server in modern Minecraft after maxing out my tools. The last time I played survival in modern Minecraft was in 2021 on version 1.17 and after that I stopped because I realized it goes the same way every time. But last year I played on Paladin Ryan's Beta 1.7.3 SMP and the stuff I built there was the most I've ever done on any world (even more than in new versions). EVER. And I've been playing since release 1.0. There really is something in old Minecraft that makes you want to play more than new Minecraft.
No, it's just that you were playing Minecraft as if it was an RPG before for some reason instead of building and doing other entertaining things and because in Beta you're literally forced to have the latter playstyle, you enjoy Beta more.
I'm hopping for more videos Essays in the future, I watched and was stunned by the short film much success and luck
I play Beta 1.7.3 because I think it had the best balance out of any Minecraft version. The shorter progression meant diamond gear wasn't overpowered and you could still survive challenges with stone tier equipment. The lack of hunger and food stacking meant a lone mob didn't have to be capable of singlehandedly killing you in order to pose a real threat (Spiders became obsolete the moment food stacking and hunger was added.) In general, everything was a lot more dynamic in Beta, you never quite knew what challenge the game was going to throw at you next and you could get some real wild and wacky cave generation.
the tall forest at the end is sooooo cool im stealing that , also your editing is wonderful !
I’ve never actually played old Minecraft, I started playing pocket edition, then moved on to the 360 version. I didn’t even touch Java until 1.14 or so. I think I have to agree with just about everything you’ve said.
The only thing I disagree with is your point about the lack of an intrinsic goal in old Minecraft. Building things is fine, but I think Minecraft really needed that Ender Dragon fight and everything leading to it to be a complete game.
holy what did i just watch this was SO GAS! insane creative bro keep it up
1.8 is something i consider old minecraft and nostalgic
I do really like how the tittle is about why you prefer old minecraft rather than saying why its better
It does bring you back to a wholesomer time of the internet
I'm glad you made a video about this, I'm tired of people who keep saying "you're blinded by nostalgia". No, I just prefer playing a version that doesn't focus entirely on progression that also requires looking up recipes, farms, redstone etc. Modern Minecraft is great in many aspects, I love it and I still play it sometimes, but these updates are exhausting the game and becoming like bloatware on a new computer.
Totally agree. While adding things to the game is nice, I feel like the vision got lost.
A huge part of the game's charm, for me, is simplicity. Updates would be fine if they added simple things, not complicated ones. Not hating on the current updates at all, but I feel like I would prefer new real life animals, new crops, new flowers or new real life ores over having complicated, fantasy-oriented new content.
I have been on the same world for many years, I always update it but I don't use most of the newer things. To me I'd rather have some of the newer things to use, bundle, mace, chains, etc. I prefer the aesthetics and build style of old minecraft though.
Thanks for making this, I can now send this to someone next time I get asked why I play beta. I agree with all your reasons here. I do however use modern minecraft to draft builds in creative mode with the beta block palette, which I'll screenshot and replicate in beta.
I think you're absolutely right! The game was still being developed with a vision and the actual gameplay in mind, rather than the $$$.
It sort of feels like Beta Minecraft is just finished. It's done. This is the game, like you would get a game when you bought a CD-ROM. It had to be finished and more importantly; good enough!
Also nice editing!
To be perfectly honest, I love playing in Modern Minecraft... but only in Creative mode and only in my "Forever" World. I don't feel bored because I'm building a gigantic map with a ton of houses, castles and others things that are connected to each other. When I'm playing in this kind of way, I feel like I'm really playing in a "sand box" game. I think the biggest problem in Modern Minecraft is that Survival Mode has been so complexify with time that is lost his soul in the process. Even if don't play Beta yet, I love the look of the Minecraft of these days and I use occasionnaly the "Golden Days" Texture pack just to tranform my world into something that look "fresh" again. I also like the old "fog" feature of the old Minecraft that has been completely change since the 1.0.0 version of the game.
Same. I like the new blocks to choose from so I can create different "feels" for different parts of my world. A more dynamic pallette.
I also agree with the survival and progression situation as said in the video. Also, without modification, I think the natural world doesn't look very nice and I wish it could look more like it does in Minecraft Dungeons.
Progression is the main issue with me. Modern minecraft completely ruined it for me. Even though I actually prefer all the other newer stuff added since but old minecraft was definitely better in terms of balance, pacing, and progression.
i play 1.12.2 cause the modding scene is amazing plus i enjoy mrcrayfish's mods, and with the insane amount of mods released for 1.12.2 i can virtually make anything out of minecraft, and the maps created for 1.12.2 too
The aesthetic really is unmatched, it brings out such a whimsical creativity in me its insane. Plus with the older textures and lighting + how the game generally used to be, it allows you to not have to go insanely all out in detail and design to make a build look decent, cause if you updated the average beta build to modern then chances are it doesn't look good lol. But in beta anything you make no matter how high or low effort, it'll more than likely look cool.
lowkey i wanna go back to older minecraft (1.12) and make a world on there
Exactly how I feel, explained everything perfectly as well. Minecraft nowadays gets boring fast because I get frustrated of all the new shit there is now, maybe it’s because I was a kid and loved having my imagination run wild while playing but playing now, it’s just complicated
I agree. I really enjoy the old Minecraft versions. I love the game and feel a lot of nostalgia (My dad showed me alpha Minecraft when I was 4 years old. I got my own account when I was older and ALWAYS played 1.8 Minecraft.) I also played it on a computer setup made when I was born. I love it. I also really love 1.7.3 and how it feels. No other game is like this in my opinion. I have never paid attention to the new additions to the game. I love Minecraft so much but sacrificing the quality of the game just to generate relevance and discussion is horrible.
I have a deep love for this game, and I appreciate everything about old Minecraft. It's so beautiful. While the new Minecraft looks "better" (quality increased), it doesn't look better. I have played a variety of versions and I will never pick the newer ones. It's just trash.
Please make more video essays! And longer ones too
sweet video! the editing you did is super clean and really stands out
i dont really have a problem with performance or simplicity. as for the aesthethics, i use mods like Hybrid Beta to bring back the old school terrain generation, and texture packs like Programmer Art Continuation to keep the retro aesthetic of the textures (I also lower my lighting and my graphics settings to look like the older versions of Pocket Edition).
In general I like playing Mineraft modded, and there are so many good mods for 1.20.1 and 1.19.2. Its a whole new world, and these mods can make Minecraft feel fresh without stripping away it's charm.
Didn't even watch full video yet, just subscribed within the first seven seconds of the video.
love your videos! wished you uploaded more often!
Not about the points at all, but the music choice is so good, I love how it's a bunch of C418 songs and then radiohead and GoGo Penguin is randomly in there LOL
Keep up the stella work!! :D
Gogo penguin fan?? Hell yeah thanks brother
I started Minecraft when it came out for the xBox. I played that version until last year. I was also playing Java because of the modding ability. But I mostly stayed with Bedrock because my son had a realm I played on. (I must say at this point that I was 56 in 2012 and my son was in his late 30's) He would not turn on co-ordinates and that was fine I had over 100 portals in that realm and carried 4 shulker boxes full of maps to get around. (I had portals that were a 10-minute train ride apart in the nether.) Then Microsoft "fixed" the maps. I rage quit after all that time and just decided that I would only play versions before Microsoft got ahold of it. (I was also mad when they killed Cortana in Halo, but I digress. ) I have 5 or 6 modded worlds that are mostly 1.8 or earlier, and I am happy that what I play will never change unless I want it to. I love the journey map and a few Quality of Life mods and sometimes (since I am retired) play 8 or 10 hours most times and never get tired of my worlds. I am happy like this and since I only got so much time before the curtain comes down, I want my gaming to be stress-free. Thank you for listening - signed CreakyCraftr.
Great vid. I agree with all of these points as part of the reasons I play old Minecraft. It’s a shame people are so quick to point at nostalgia for the reason because for a large portion of golden age players, it’s not a close factor.
7:31 I play Alpha/Beta for a couple of reasons:
1. For a couple of years, i only had a dell computer that wouldn't really run that well, it couldn't really run modern minecraft, anything above 1.16 just would lag like hell, and i would play older versions like Alpha/Beta cuz they actually would run really well and i because i liked playing those kind of versions.
2. I got into those older versions because of Grians Evo SMP series, and that series made me really like Alpha/Beta, and i think its pretty cool and really simple and i just like the certain vibe that it has.
3. Obviously i didn't grow up playing Alpha/Beta because i started in 2016 on Release 1.8, and im also really young, but i still like playing those really old versions, even though if its something that alot of more older players did experience, and is something i didn't get to experience and something other younger players didn't get to experience too, but even though its like that, i still really like Alpha/Beta and im glad i get to experience playing those versions now, way way way after older players have played it.
Hah. I bought a new Mac Mini with the M1 chip and 8gb ram a couple years ago but It can't play modern Minecraft. I also bought a new Dell G5 for the NVIDIA graphics, but after I couldn't output anything to my LG 86inch gaming TV except the pedestrian Intel Graphics. (both my fault I guess). Happy Retro guy now.
I see your points! I agree with them for the most part. I do like some of the stuff added in the later updates, and the modding in the later versions is a bit more of what I like to have, but at the same time I think you're onto something. Maybe I'll give old minecraft a try.
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i dont really play old minecraft and i enjoy a lot of what the modern update brings, but i consciously try to approach it with old minecraft mindset (if that makes sense)
ive never played old minecraft sice it came out. Ive always played the newest update, and done all the things you said in this video. when i saw this video in my feed, i was lowk gonna hate, but now that ive watched the video, ive came to realize all the shortcomings of the modern game, all the things i hate, like the cheesy progression (my main concern) even down to the colors, are all fixed by going back in time, and i look forward to trying a game ive both played for over many years, yet havent tried in over a decade. thanks for the enlightenment, cheers.
i like aesthetics of old minecraft and the experience in its simplicity, in beta 1.7.3 i use texture pack to bring back the cobblestone texture from beta 1.6.6 and earlier lol
this explains it better more then i ever could
I thought that your video "The last beta player" was just a 1 time thing, but this is so cool!
i like older minecraft and i totally agree with all your points! though, i don't play it often cause i feel that there's significantly less to do in it. i get that it's much more simpler and i do like the indie vibes n stuff, but after you play it for like an hour or two and pretty much see everything there's not much incentive left to keep playing, i guess. modern minecraft has a bigger scope i'd say - there's so many things to do and stuff to find that you always just kinda have a goal and, frankly, this play-style suits me more. it does suffer from the same issue as older minecraft - that after you do everything the game has to offer theres not much incentive to play - but i feel like it has a significantly longer play-time before it gets boring.
if you enjoy the game primarily for its survival aspects i think the endgame in newer minecraft after you beat the enderdragon or even get a villager farm its wayy to easy but if you mainly focus on building with all the new blocks and decorations i think newer minecraft is just better
Games dont need t9 be constantly updated to be fun. MInecraft could've stopped being updated in 2017, and i would still have a ton of fun to this day
In all honesty I struggle to play mc for more than a few days at most. But the few times I've gone back to older versions like b1.7.3 or even when i started in 1.2 I just feel more at home then modern. The biggest problem with Modern is that there is no feeling of reward or even purpose because of how easy it is to just break the game. Place a few torches around a flat plane and boom you have 0 reason to build a base and you'll be perfectly safe. Need Materials = Make a farm aka break the game.
But the biggest problem with modern is the overreliance on generated structures...
If you turn off structures and make a world, 50% of the game gets removed. No end, No way to make Netherite, No way to get Heart of the ocean, or sniffers, or archeology, or the new trial chambers, cant make potions because no way to get blaze rods. and probably more that i just forgot about.
Minecraft thrived in the old era because the W O R L D was what was unique and interesting to explore. Not what was inside that world. Finding dungeons were cool because they were rare and somewhat hard to find. Making a farm out of that same dungeon was also a reward for finding it in the first place and was always cool to find a way to make said farm but was never too strong because the mob drops were never too good.
Modern can just be summed up with break the game so you dont have to play it and you can just build. which isnt mc in my opinion, it was the mixture of Building + Survival. and the whole "if you dont want mob farms dont make one" is a horrible argument. If you try to play mc normally without the farms after having them you will lose your mind. You now have forbidden knowledge and you cant "just get rid of farms" because you know how to make them, and they make things easier, so human nature kicks in and says "you could always just make a farm so x is easier" mob farms just shouldn't be in the game, period.
Very nice video. I completely understand and can see why you play these versions. I personally don't have time to do it, but I did once make a mod for it. The video editing also felt good.
i really appreciate how quickly old minecraft launches. 12 seconds from desktop to loaded into my world.
other than that, modern minecraft doesn't really deliver more of what i want from minecraft. mostly everything i want from it was already in the version i bought in 2011. a lot of the new features distract from the reasons i actually love this game so much
thank you this is gold
i agree whit most of these things and it also just makes me nostalgic i miss those times when i was young and old minecraft makes me feel 7 again
I started playing Minecraft in version 1.12 or around this time. I’ve always been interested in Minecraft’s history, but never bothered to try the old versions. I like to play both beta 1.7.3 and modern versions, but I think I actually prefer vanilla beta for all the reasons mentioned.
It also feels like a completely different game nowadays.
I play 1.5.2, and I honestly think it's some of the most fun I've had in gaming. It has a lot to do, but it isn't too crowded. It retains the classic feel and atmosphere; the very old textures and tone of the game are just so great. And the generation is so fun to build stuff on. I honestly love all the early release versions, and while I don't enjoy beta that much, I respect people who enjoy beta. This is a pretty neat video that sums up why people enjoy it so much. :P
Nostalgia is something I've seen and while one person's experience isn't enough to say no, I love beta Minecraft, and yet I only started playing Java sometime last year.
I randomly want to play old minecraft I start a world get a crafting table and then I get bored plus new minecraft has more things to do
I'm nor trying to sound like I hate old minecraft I think it does a lot of things better the new minecraft
Have you heard of the mod that makes the modern game more like old minecraft? It has a bunch of customizable features and you can get rid of some features, tho i think the features now don't ruin the games simplicity Theres just more to do now and the game is constantly changing either small or big which i think makes the game much more fun to replay and see what has changed
Elytras and hoppers destroyed Minecraft. Everything else, a thousand mistakes by Mojang, can either be fixed or overlooked, but these two items have become so deeply embedded in the idea of the new Minecraft and its gameplay, with the community supporting them, that they’ll never even consider fixing (removing) them. No matter how amazing the new updates are, everything will always come down to auto-farming and flying - meaning after 100 hours of gameplay, you’re in legal creative mode, boredom sets in, and another world wipe comes along, signaling the end of the 2-3 week Minecraft cycle. Mojang really knows how to back their games into a corner...
For a first essay video, I like it a lot. Really well edited and put together. I mainly play modern versions since I have a Realms server with my friends so we're kinda forced to play the newer versions. (Not that we don't like it)
I've thought about giving Beta 1.7.3 and BTA a go but I'm still yet to do my research on these launchers people always tell me to use. I've always used the vanilla launcher since I started playing, and logging in with my account in a third-party launcher makes me think twice. Maybe I'll give it a go, eventually. Who knows. I'm very protective of my account, and I usually don't trust things at face value unless it's open source or something like that. (Feel free to comment if launchers like MultiMC are safe).
Unrelated but I thought you should know this: I made a replica of your cactus farm on my Realms server. I love recreating old buildings on modern versions. It's like real life, where everything we have today, from buildings and vehicles to tools and electronics, are based on already stablished designs from the past when said things were invented.
The vanilla launcher is fine enough to play old versions. When it comes to modding though, the vanilla launcher still works in that regard, but MultiMC is far superior in this since mods for older versions were much different than what we have now. I can assure you that MultiMC is safe though as I use it myself for my own modified version of Beta 1.7.3.
Like the other person said, you can play old versions with the official launcher. Some sounds will be wrong though (using the modern versions rather than the original versions).
Also, the Betacraft launcher does not require you to log in. You just type a username (any username actually, doesn’t have to be yours) and play in offline mode.
Beta 1.7.3 to me feels complete. I first started playing Minecraft around the time 1.2 rolled out and kept playing each release until 1.7, which for me was a turning point because each update from here felt very out of place. Second hand, ugly new biomes, attack cooldown, elytra... Around this time I ventured back to 1.7.3 because I knew it was the last update before hunger.
I loved it at first sight. The colors were vibrant, performance was high and the whole thing felt complete.
There are a few things that came later that I wish were in it however, like the rest of the music discs, the fishing animation, working furnace minecarts...
I still sometimes play release but every world last only until the dragon is defeated and not an hour more. It's still a fun game, hundreds of millions play it but release to me feels like how Hexxit, Wrath of the Void, Yogbox and other modpacks, fun additions and all but far from the main idea.
I personally have been playing on a server called Modern Beta where you can join on a vanilla modern (like 1.20 and 1.21) versions with no mods necessary at all and the community is nice as well. The things that people have built look amazing and you can build anything and it'd just look.. cool, like even a basic building that would normally look just not that good on a modern version just looks like it fits the area even if it's around an amazingly detailed building.
2:43 is the realest thing. Modern Minecraft has this FOMO feeling for me.
Minecraft in current day has felt more plastic-y to me, if that makes sense. Like it feels wrong, but it’s “technically” the same game I played as a kid, but it just feels more like a knockoff or sidegame than anything.
5:55 When I first played beta, I was surprised by the game launching into the main menu instantly compared how long it takes the modern game to take.
But, I play it for pretty much all of the reasons you do. The modern game feels too "corporate", and even when I do play it, I _have_ to go full in on any resource packs that revert the look of the game to pre-1.14. It might seem minor to some people, but I can't state enough how much I hate the new artstyle. It lacks the soul and feels so soft and safe.
New mobs like phantoms and bees clash hard and look like they came from one of those old mo creatures mods
I like bees tbh they’re my favorite of the new mobs, they really have tons of functionality and thought behind them
Great video! I also love the thumbnail 😊
Things I don’t like in modern minecraft:
Dog armour. It’s not necessary.
Wind charges and the mace, as cool as it is to have a tf2 loadout in Minecraft it isn’t really fitting compared to the other tools of the game, as most tools in game follow a very basic use, and are pretty much flat models.
Copper. It sometimes has its uses in building, since it’s a nice selection of colours. but overall It’s useless.
The trail chambers. I have maybe been in….one? I never thought to go out looking for one, mainly because it isn’t interesting.
The retexturing of certain mobs. (I Believe it’s cows and pigs) if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Armadillos, phantoms, sniffers, allay, axolotl, camels, foxes and breeze. I don’t think these mobs fit the game, they make me thing I am in a modded version of the game every time I see them. I would not miss them if they were removed from the game.
Things I think need work.
Woodland mansions, I think they are the coolest structures but look a little dated, I would fix em up a bit, and put better loot in them
Mine carts, goes without saying.
Boats. Some bigger boats with sails or so would be cool in my opinion.
Pillagers, just don’t make them drop totems. Reserve that for the woodland mansions.
Witch hut, they are so useless and dated it’s almost funny.
Jungle temples, again, really dated.
Biomes in general, some are just real boring, and need a bit of extra plant life, structures or mobs added in them, this being swamps, and almost all forests for that matter.
Seed generation, as the nether and caves got updated to be more worthy to explore, the surface world less so, there are a few cases like mountains and cliffs, but otherwise the world feels really flat
End dimension. Needs a-lot of work.
Things I think are great:
Frogs, the swamp could have used a swampy creature, and it got one,
Decorative pots, scaffolding make’s interior building that bit easier
Nether update, ocean update, village and pillage update, and caves and cliffs update. Made those areas way better to explore.
Let me know what you think
Heavy on the simplicity section. Mojang is doing a little too much in my opinion
I started playing in 2019, I also like alpha Minecraft a lot idk why
except you can still do all of this in the newer versions of the game? you can just not trade with villagers for mending, you can just not build an iron golem farm for infinite iron, etc. etc.
I play both versions since all my friends like the newer versions more, but I like beta 1.7.3 the most. The modern versions just feel random and unpolished, like its so much stuff added that just doesnt really ahve a place to fit in to. Its like the devs just pump out random stuff, id rather wait 2 years but then have a good fitting update that feels right.
I've never been good at describing things to people yk? so when i can't tell someone why i like old minecraft more, and that i just like it more; they tell me it's nostalgia i have to tell them over and over it isn't. I've been playing beta for the past few years exclusively over modern and i talk about it a fair share in mc communities, so i'm grateful to have some one who is able to better put my feelings to words in a similar way.
I just play modern Minecraft with old texture packs to make it feel like back then
But what makes you stay on modern?
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I love the aesthetics
Some great points here for sure
I personally like old and new Minecraft and want to play more of both, with and without mods.
The look and feel of Beta is perfect
I love the old Minecraft!
I have exclusively and strictly played Minecraft for the PlayStation 3 for my entire life. I don't do it for nostalgia. I do it because I prefer it to modern Minecraft. I've played modern Minecraft, can I have access to modern consoles... but I really don't care. I like Minecraft, Minecraft PS3 Edition