FU*K ME, Marvel Are Going Full 2014 On Us Again!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Not since Marvel Now and Marvel All-New, All-Different has the publisher put out such a putrid line of new books. Marvel Comics are going full 2014 on customers all over again. The problem? These exact initiatives are what drove fans away tobegin with. The Avengers, Daredevil, Captain America and Champions are full of heroes fighting heroes, race swaps, gender swaps and every other cliche that ruined Marvel Comics over the past decade. Wes explains how Marvel fans have been stuck in the worst version of Groundhog Day of all-times for a decade. Screw me, Marvel are going full 2014 on us again!
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Комментарии • 253

  • @Dion1605x
    @Dion1605x 4 дня назад +91

    Marvel has the same problem as DC. They don't realize that fans don't like the stuff with their characters and they live in their own bubble.

    • @Aloysius10
      @Aloysius10 4 дня назад +15

      Also they recycle shit or don’t allow character development.

    • @PureMaddnessOne
      @PureMaddnessOne 4 дня назад +2

      They have a lot hacktivists working in either company. Both prefer fanfic writers. Heck DC had a livestream were they admitted writing gay bed time stuff with Tim Drake and Connor kent fanfics when they were teenagers, they still love those stories aboot teenage boys WHILE THEY R ADULTS.

    • @ashleybanks-wm4cg
      @ashleybanks-wm4cg 4 дня назад +3

      Y'all are weirdos who don't even really read these comics before judging them

    • @PureMaddnessOne
      @PureMaddnessOne 4 дня назад +3

      @@ashleybanks-wm4cg The weirdos don't read the comics and praise them.
      I read it every week.
      Only skip the Star Wars comic, beside Darth Vader and Darth Maul. Because i am not a big Star Wars fan, but those 2 characters r kewl.

    • @MushieNino
      @MushieNino 4 дня назад

      @@PureMaddnessOne Not just hacktivists, hacktivists are a problem but some lazy/not paid enough people.

  • @joshjones9749
    @joshjones9749 4 дня назад +48

    Ahh Steve Fox. Great Tekken character, awful Comic writer🤣

    • @ComicBookMuscle
      @ComicBookMuscle 4 дня назад +9

      No one at Marvel will get that joke either 😂

  • @toddholland7511
    @toddholland7511 4 дня назад +56

    Also? The Avengers and X-Men worked together with the Fantastic Four AGAINST Onslaught. I miss the days when Marvel creators knew Marvel history.

    • @fiend_machine
      @fiend_machine 4 дня назад +5

      They mention Onslaught but completely skip over Secret Wars

    • @blackjack0226
      @blackjack0226 4 дня назад +2

      @@fiend_machine or Contest of Champions.

    • @maxmazzotti6651
      @maxmazzotti6651 4 дня назад +4

      Same here. Should knowing a great amount of comics history be a job requirement for all comic companies in the future.

    • @RandomManEntertainment
      @RandomManEntertainment 4 дня назад

      I agree

    • @kaczok1985
      @kaczok1985 2 дня назад

      ​​​@@maxmazzotti6651 Hell, no. If you know comic book history you oppose the deconstruction of classic male characters. And that's just unacceptable.

  • @ascorvinus
    @ascorvinus 4 дня назад +37

    Remember when Marvel redesigned Mystique to look like the movie version? Remember when they got rid of Nick Fury to replace him with his black son that no one ever heard of before, who was an inexplicable doppelgänger of Sam Jackson? There’s synergy, and then there’s stupidity.
    Also, I think Bendis’s nadir was when he turned Iceman gay. His writing on Riri, as well. Absolutely godawful stuff.

    • @docblade3270
      @docblade3270 4 дня назад +7

      Marvel did many erros in the past, like erase totally the clone saga, one more day, deleting all mutants for money reasons, make the FF disappear, but the START of modern day marvel disrespect for the characters was the gay iceman, they ignored tens of years of stories to insert a pandering for the HDTV mob!

    • @sird2333
      @sird2333 4 дня назад +6

      There is only one Nick Fury. And he’s White.
      Captain America is White.
      Spider-Man is White.

    • @rachetmarvel931
      @rachetmarvel931 4 дня назад +2

      One of the only good brand synergy,was making Blade a vampire.

    • @PoppyPancake
      @PoppyPancake 4 дня назад +1

      ​@sird2333 calm down, bud.
      You're sounding less like a traditionalist and more like a racist. 😂

    • @docblade3270
      @docblade3270 3 дня назад +3

      @@PoppyPancake Yeah, but can you see the double standards here? If he had said storm is black, blade is black, bishop is black, you would not think there is anything wrong, and is basically the same thing, so we are been "trained" to be "ists" against ourselves!

  • @potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420
    @potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420 4 дня назад +12

    The toxic positivity death spiral is fantastic. There's no one there who can tell anyone else there that their work sucks and has sucked for more than a decade so they actually think the stories they spiked the sales numbers on with variant covers and relaunches for #1 issues were their popular work so they're redoing it all with even less talent. 🤣😂🤣

  • @RyenFreaky
    @RyenFreaky 4 дня назад +23

    I have a great idea for Captain Marvel. What if Rogue absorbs her power, but holds on just a little too long, gaining her powers indefinitely. Carol is left in a coma for the next decade.

    • @dr.robotnick1888
      @dr.robotnick1888 4 дня назад

      That's exactly what everyone wants for the MCU

    • @kaczok1985
      @kaczok1985 3 дня назад

      And then every year Disney+ could release a streaming special called "Is she Binary yet?" It would be a ten second clip with a giant "NO!" flashing on the screen. And it would still be a better show than She-Hulk.

  • @idiotproofdalek
    @idiotproofdalek 4 дня назад +12

    I remember when Elektra was Elektra and a good character rather than a stand in for a male character. Why is Marvel so misogynistic?

    • @peterparker-q1q
      @peterparker-q1q 4 дня назад

      it's hidden core of woke agenda - to make women be a men without peenises

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      Because ever since they were bought by Disney and want appeal to girls and female fans (Read: Get RID of all the White male characters and then REPLACE them with either their girlfriends or daughters!)

  • @edwardhipkiss281
    @edwardhipkiss281 4 дня назад +14

    Reminds me of that scene from Blackadder Goes Forth: "Doing precisely what we've done 18 times before is the last thing they'll suspect us to do this time. They'll be caught completely off guard!"

  • @AL-ws5yi
    @AL-ws5yi 4 дня назад +23

    I don’t like superheroes fighting.😢

    • @jonnjones8263
      @jonnjones8263 4 дня назад +5

      Same. These are HEROES. They should be fighting villains.

    • @Jesus-cu6vn
      @Jesus-cu6vn 4 дня назад +4

      @@jonnjones8263the heroes are the villains nowadays

    • @rachetmarvel931
      @rachetmarvel931 4 дня назад +1

      ​@@Jesus-cu6vn Sadly more so the X-men than any other superhero group.

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      Me too. It's a tired old trope that should have gone out of style by now

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      ​​@@jonnjones8263unfortunately, some of their heroes are acting or behaving like villains, Since Civil War 1!

  • @holdthetruthhostage
    @holdthetruthhostage 4 дня назад +42

    We have to understand Marvel isn't a comic book company just a Branch of Disney, where it's cheaper to sell propaganda on comics than motion pictures

  • @erict9737
    @erict9737 4 дня назад +9

    I'm glad I don't read this garbage anymore. Hat's off to you and the others for reading and dealing with all this.

  • @Jaymalkin980
    @Jaymalkin980 4 дня назад +12

    Bendis always sucked. Marvel came to an end with Secret Wars in 2015 and is been a horrible nightmare ever since.

    • @maxmazzotti6651
      @maxmazzotti6651 4 дня назад

      Nah, loved his daredevil, ultimate spider man, new avengers, and some of his events. What is your critique of him?

    • @Jaymalkin980
      @Jaymalkin980 4 дня назад +2

      @@maxmazzotti6651 he feels like a gimmick writer never doing soild stories just relying on cheap tricks to push a conic along. Not read all his stuff but his X-Men mad me pretty mad.

    • @Yayofangamer16
      @Yayofangamer16 4 дня назад

      @@maxmazzotti6651 HE's woke, any questions?

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 4 дня назад +2

      @@maxmazzotti6651 Yes New Avengers sucked,he ruined Wanda,Hawkeye and put Wolverine in the team. Bendis ruined Marvel.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 4 дня назад +2

      Bendis was a cancer for Marvel and comic book industry as whole. I hate this guy.

  • @mikewilson3581
    @mikewilson3581 4 дня назад +13

    I've never been interested in Sam Wilson as Captain America. The four issue Falcon limited series from the early 80's and The Falcon's appearances in the old Power Man And Iron Fist series are my favorite version. I liked that street level kind of Falcon.

    • @pauldareason
      @pauldareason 2 дня назад

      I wonder what happen to the tough cop on that series

    • @mikewilson3581
      @mikewilson3581 2 дня назад

      @@pauldareason Sgt Tork? He was a great supporting character. With his shotgun. Marvel probably forgot about him.

    • @pauldareason
      @pauldareason День назад

      @@mikewilson3581 yep oddly enough there was a black cop just like him on the end of the powerman and iron fist series who also just disappeared after a great supporting role.

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      Well, Sam is now Cap in the MCU, so he can never go back to being Falcon, lest Marvel be accused of going backwards!

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      ​@@pauldareasonforgotten

  • @EvandroACruz
    @EvandroACruz 4 дня назад +5

    Marvel are walking in cycles since the 2000's. Nobody deserves a new AvsX event again. And this new Sam Wilson comic is because of the upcoming MCU movie only. I'm so tired of Marvel and your mediocre comics. The things don't will improve because modern Marvel killed the essence of classic Marvel forever. I barely can recognize the most these characters in nowadays with your past characterizations. Marvel lost your old identity already. I wonder what Stan Lee and Jack Kirby would think of all this?

    • @AshaJacob-qd7fb
      @AshaJacob-qd7fb 2 дня назад

      Don't think that Captain Nigga will work give it 5 or 6 issues and it will be over😂😂😂 Sam Wilson is never a true Captain America

  • @Arthurmaan
    @Arthurmaan 4 дня назад +13

    For some reason, i want Sam Keith and Peter David to do a Wolverine comic.

    • @ComicBookMuscle
      @ComicBookMuscle 4 дня назад +1

      Aren’t they both essentially retired?

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      ​@@ComicBookMuscleand the latter is currently hospitalised with mounting hospital bills to boot

  • @chrismetoyer1633
    @chrismetoyer1633 4 дня назад +11

    Funny thing is i drop all of my Marvel titles but Ultimate Spiderman . I'm hoping that the New Iron Man is good but we can only hope.

  • @jimjam51075
    @jimjam51075 4 дня назад +5

    Comics have been dead for 20+ years.
    Brian Michael Bendis was the symptom. Walls of indulgent text, months and months of a title where no one even throws a punch.

  • @Manuel_D_night
    @Manuel_D_night 4 дня назад +7

    all this bad things make me buy captain america by mark gruenwald , and buy comic from 80 and early 2000

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 4 дня назад

      Best Captain America run ever.

  • @BajaBCat
    @BajaBCat 4 дня назад +5

    Fans really thought Marvel gave up on that? Lmao, oh no you're going to get it again, and again, and again, until you like it. I remain confused over who still willingly read Marvel or DC books...

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      Their die-hard fans and collectors/speculators do!

  • @Alexandre_Juliao
    @Alexandre_Juliao 4 дня назад +3

    I used to be very bothered by this kind of thing. Until, looking at things objectively, I came to the conclusion that the real, original Marvel Universe ended in 2005.
    I base this not on personal taste, but on the fact, that in that year practically all Marvel titles underwent deep, simultaneous retcons. Black Panther, was the one that changed the most.
    I believe that there was a conscious initiative that year, to do a secret reboot, to accommodate a new group of writers and editors, who had only a superficial knowledge of the Marvel Universe, and no interest in learning about the continuity or the characters.
    That's why I no longer care about the direction they're taking, because the characters I liked are lost somewhere in limbo, and these new versions don't interest me.

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      I'll do you better: for me, it ended with Hickman's Secret Wars (2015),whuch makes sense as everything you know about Marvel literally got destroyed!

  • @MaverickhunterXZero
    @MaverickhunterXZero 4 дня назад +5

    Carol Danverse has been a villain since Civil War 2. Seeing the writer is attached, it'll be about how she's the bestest evar.
    The Falcon can buzz off.
    Female characters can only be awesome when they take the identity of a man.
    The new chumps is what it should be called.

  • @waynetech10
    @waynetech10 4 дня назад +3

    This would've been their shot. DC has been disappointing me, for almost 15 years now. Marvel has the chance to call over to a disappointed DC fan, but they're doing the same things. Stupid events, trying their best to devalue the heroes that built their success, and hiring people who clearly hate superheroes and the fans. Some may claim to love it, but then go on a tangent about how they don't see themselves in the book. So, let's just change everything. So what if you'd rather see heroes team up rather than fight, and classic heroes leading the charge, or positive relationships, or villains that are just villains instead of "misunderstood" lost souls. Tough. You're getting the skewed "Good is Bad and Bad is Good" perspective, and no heroes come out better, following the event. In fact, people are turned off.
    I stopped reading Marvel even before I stopped reading DC. I see now that there's no reason to give them another chance. Strictly DC back issues, still.

  • @PettyCrow-n9c
    @PettyCrow-n9c 4 дня назад +10

    They had opportunity to elevate Elektra with Daredevil away, and instead they just decided to mooch off of Daredevil's name. Now, they will likely never go back to her being Elektra, she'll just be "Lady Daredevil" or something from here on out.

    • @ryanclark6602
      @ryanclark6602 4 дня назад +1

      Elektra is my favorite character and this truth saddens me deeply

    • @laneneely1077
      @laneneely1077 4 дня назад +1

      ​@@ryanclark6602don't worry, they'll make "Elektra" a mantle, too.

    • @Yayofangamer16
      @Yayofangamer16 4 дня назад

      That's what happens when you guys don't infiltrate companies

    • @Mr_Robotts
      @Mr_Robotts 4 дня назад

      ​@@laneneely1077yes and it'll be a black nonbinary translezbican in a wheelchair as the new one

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      Sadly yes

  • @InfamyOrDeath-__-
    @InfamyOrDeath-__- 4 дня назад +4

    It’s hard to believe this has been going on for a full decade now, 10 entire years of this trash, and it’s still not gone, but I do think people are finally fed up with it, gamers are pushing back hard now, all these prog games are crashing hard, hundreds of millions lost.

  • @shaunsutton699
    @shaunsutton699 4 дня назад +20

    Can we just make a comic book where Peter Parker wakes up from a coma, after being poisoned by the Scorpion, with Mary Jane at his side. We realize that all of this crazy BS was Peter’s fever dream. No Paul, no Superior Spider Man, no Jack pot, and no Spider Boy. But until then, make mines Sky Bound!!

    • @chrisdymmel2934
      @chrisdymmel2934 4 дня назад +3

      Superior was pretty good, but if I were to get a chance to retcon Marvel, it and a lot of other decent runs would be shifted off to a another timeline and we’d get the old Marvel Universe back.
      I’ve got it all worked out, and it would start when the heroes came back after Onslaught. Yeah, you’d have to go back that far.
      Unfortunately a retcon like that would never happen at Marvel.

    • @cahe6161
      @cahe6161 4 дня назад +2

      Marvel peaked in the 2000s.

    • @chrisdymmel2934
      @chrisdymmel2934 4 дня назад +3

      @@cahe6161 I would say earlier. There was some good stuff in the early 2000s though, but to truly fix what’s wrong with Marvel, you have to go pre-Bendis, pre-JMS on Spidey and pre-Brubaker on Cap, even pre-Civil War.
      The events could have still happened but in another timeline now.
      Go back to Heroes Return and start fresh and this time, Marvel, listen to the customers, we know what we need to see in the comics better than you do.

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад +1

      Marvel: NO! But here's Ultimate Spider-man where you can have all of that!

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      ​@@cahe6161but then Civil war 1 happened, and we all know what happens after that

  • @LandOfTheGeek
    @LandOfTheGeek 4 дня назад +8

    How many times old man...

  • @doctorogre1777
    @doctorogre1777 4 дня назад +5

    You'd think that after the humiliating failure of the Marvels, they'd quietly shuffle ol' Carol off into the same closet they keep the Inhumans, Eternals, Namor, and Shang Chi. What bigger message does it take to get Marvel to cut it out.

  • @garthwhitely9012
    @garthwhitely9012 4 дня назад +4

    Anyone else remember the other Avengers X-Men crossover that completely failed AXE, avengers x-men and eternals. Marvel is just creatively bankrupt 😂

  • @sebastianstark8517
    @sebastianstark8517 4 дня назад +3

    Until the editors and writers change, the status quo at the big two will continue. None of us should be surprised by this. We speak loudest with our wallets, and so I will not buy this drivel, and haven't for a long time.

  • @peterparker-q1q
    @peterparker-q1q 4 дня назад +2

    wokies and their politics killed off comics with : desexualization/uglification/raceswap/feminism/lgbt/hateofrightwingers/dei and unability to separate fiction from reality, bendis always makes black token characters and 2024 it got old pretty fast😂🎉

  • @ComicBookMuscle
    @ComicBookMuscle 4 дня назад +4

    Marvel and DC have yet to figure out that wars of attrition have no victors. Especially when it’s a war waged against your customers.

  • @KainGerc
    @KainGerc 4 дня назад +3

    "Same as it ever was,
    Same as it ever was..."

  • @peterdee2761
    @peterdee2761 4 дня назад +6

    Daredevil has sucked for years now. :(
    You need to have a regular show on cancelled DC and Marvel comics, review what went wrong with them.

    • @jbbrolic
      @jbbrolic 4 дня назад +2

      Peak Bendis and then Brubaker had that comic firing on cylinders for years on end... And it's mostly sucked for over a decade since

  • @Damackism
    @Damackism 4 дня назад +2

    Marvel Now had good intentions but in the end it triggered the collapse of the comic book industry.

  • @jbbrolic
    @jbbrolic 4 дня назад +4

    Zdarksy's Daredevil, which started out half okay, tanked when Daredevil returned to jail somewhere around 25 issues in (as always Zdarsky rips off recent stories from more talented writers, Brubaker in that case.)
    Elektra DD was always bad

  • @namelesswhocares8648
    @namelesswhocares8648 4 дня назад +2

    So basically i can rest assured that my comic book collected will have a comic book published by marvel or dc after 2014.
    Meanwhile, my list of regular books are french bande dessinée keeps rising

  • @joshphelan6770
    @joshphelan6770 4 дня назад +2

    You can't do what there doing Hollywood. It should be the other way always

  • @kidicarus2215
    @kidicarus2215 4 дня назад +3

    Marvel needs to be cleaned out top to bottom. Unless the leadership and editorial give a fig, nothing is going to change. At this point, I'd rather hear about Jim fighting his neighbor, than read another X-Men book.

  • @nessiesearcher
    @nessiesearcher 4 дня назад +4

    Have Dok review all of these. He will dispatch himself to an insane asylum!

  • @WarBrer247
    @WarBrer247 4 дня назад +3

    Any shop and any customer who orders these books deserve to lose their business and their money.

  • @smackroscoe
    @smackroscoe 4 дня назад +3

    Look at them STILL trying to troll the fans.LOLz. Captain Marvel, Black P, Replacement Captain America all prominently featured & the lone white male getting his behind beaten. I can’t wait NOT to read this. 🤣I love GROUNDHOG DAY!

  • @O_G_HELLBOY
    @O_G_HELLBOY 4 дня назад +2

    Continue to watch sales crater...😥

  • @comicslinger
    @comicslinger 4 дня назад +2

    It really hit high gear in 2015-2016

  • @johnnycage112
    @johnnycage112 4 дня назад +3

    Makes me think they know the jig is up, so they're giving one more F to the U for the road.

  • @doctorogre1777
    @doctorogre1777 4 дня назад +3

    WAS AvX a Bendis book? I barely remember that crap, but it was too edgy for a Bendis book...
    It might have been Aaron or something. I could be wrong, Marvel's not even worth the google search.

  • @PureMaddnessOne
    @PureMaddnessOne 4 дня назад +1

    Falcon didn't became Captain America, he became Captain Falcon, at least with the TRUE comic fans.
    Carol Danvers is going 2 be the obvious bad guy again in story, while mainstream media is pretending she is the hero. They did same thing with Civil War 2.
    That captain Falcon comic is just coming out because of the Captain Falcon: The disease order is coming out soon.
    The Winter Soldier and Falcon show was awful, they pretended that the clear cut bad guys were good guys and Falcon siding with them, making Falcon a villain whom pretends 2 be a hero.
    Elektra as Daredevil is showing that she can't be anything without Daredevil, what is a great insult towards the character. But Marvel (and DC) hate actual strong woman, they want weak women that pretend 2 be strong like Carol Danvers has been since she larps as Captain Marvel.
    Lots of these "New Champions" characters have shown up during Spider-Woman comics. They r so bland. This "New Champions" comics reeks of those "New Warriors" comics with Snowflake and Safespace.
    Spider-Gwen supposed 2 be a What If Gwen got bitten by spider instead of Peter. But than some "writers" didn't get that memo and ruined that universe, same "writers" didn't understand M.O.D.O.K.. Than into the Spider-Verse movies made her even worse, were she supports child abuse.
    Spider-Punk was interesting until some "writers' wrote comics and didn't understand Punk and ruined the character. He now sides with authoritanism while pretending 2 be against it. He is basically a villain.

  • @waxywaxenheimer4169
    @waxywaxenheimer4169 4 дня назад +3

    I miss when the MCU wasn’t around so that tumblr creatives couldn’t just do the same thing on the page they see on the silver screen.

    • @waxywaxenheimer4169
      @waxywaxenheimer4169 4 дня назад +1

      Also, we are watching the radicalization of Wes. The industry has finally broke him of hope 😂😂😂

  • @Barot8
    @Barot8 4 дня назад +3

    Captain Marvel vs Cyclops??? How is that not an instant defeat of Cyclops? Thank you Wes. Totally agree about Captain Marvel.

    • @Yayofangamer16
      @Yayofangamer16 4 дня назад

      Because Marvel hires Never Trump people. Low IQ to begin with.

  • @lincolnosiris222
    @lincolnosiris222 4 дня назад +2

    Marvel twilight was best comic run they had this year.

  • @luisjairorojohernandez9482
    @luisjairorojohernandez9482 4 дня назад +1

    I completely forgot that I have only been buying Marvel comics that are recommended here. Still not going to pickup Avengers or X-men in the next few months.😊

  • @neal8716
    @neal8716 4 дня назад +3

    Marvel prints their bad ideas (all of them) on a mobious strip.

  • @ryanwilliams7639
    @ryanwilliams7639 4 дня назад +2

    Out of the 5 years I’ve been reading comics, I’ve noticed a pattern with dc and marvel. They always introduce a lot of new characters no one likes, crap on and ruin the established characters then they do some big reboot where things seem to go back to how people want. Within a year or so we end up going right back to how things were, rinse and repeat.

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      Yup. Basically it's the same ol' song and dance routine🙄😅😒

  • @BrianRidgway-u5g
    @BrianRidgway-u5g 4 дня назад +2

    Sorry to say, buddy, but there ain't no waking up from this nightmare!

  • @EclipseHedgehog
    @EclipseHedgehog 4 дня назад +4

    back in the day dc and marvel would try to one up each other as rivals trying to make the best stories with the best characters they could. some were hits, some were misses. today its just; lets see who can be the most garbage.

  • @BadNewsYouNeedToKnow
    @BadNewsYouNeedToKnow 4 дня назад +3

    Why would any writer create for Marvel. Get paid a couple of grand to write a fantastic comic. Then let a BILLION DOLLAR MOVIE STEAL YOUR STORY FOR NOTHING!!!!! The insanity of that is a fcking joke. Until they rewrite those creator contracts clueless editors will keep pushing these horrific books.

    • @Vittorio-xl4dv
      @Vittorio-xl4dv 4 дня назад

      Perfect !!! 😊😊

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm 2 дня назад

      We see what happens to IP when those contracts are iron-clad with Star Wars EU, at least Marvel is still running the 616 universe

  • @davidherring3333
    @davidherring3333 4 часа назад

    The reason that I don't hear anyone talking about that wokestream comics just keep getting worse seemingly unchecked is because Disney and WB (respectively) can just write off Marvel and DC (respectively) as vanity projects.

  • @Arassar
    @Arassar 4 дня назад +3

    I'm constantly surprised that Marvel comics remains in business. Disney doesn't need them AT ALL, but the drain on the pocket book must be so small that they might legit be skating by on the change from the couch cushions.

  • @sharzinlalebazri5673
    @sharzinlalebazri5673 4 дня назад +1

    They hate Elektra so much that they don't even let her have her name on the cover of her own books.

  • @chrisdymmel2934
    @chrisdymmel2934 4 дня назад +1

    1. Time for Marvel to rename Sam Wilson The Sky Captain
    2. If they’re going to insist on these constant mantle swaps, at the VERY least, retire the original
    3. Champions was a decent book. In the 70s. At least they’re not ruining the New Warriors name again

  • @Rasdock
    @Rasdock 4 дня назад +2

    Erica Schultz did alright on Hallows' Eve. Janine wasn't suddenly a girl boss getting validation from everybody. She was scared, weak at times, she made mistakes, she was conflicted between wanting to be a hero and wanting to hate Peter for what she thought was his betrayal of Ben. I'm not saying it was comic book of the year, but Schultz didn't come across as one of these activist types like the Tini Howards or Alyssa Wongs of the the world. Maybe she does in the Electra Daredevil books, which I am not reading.
    That said, I still have no idea why they didn't hand Hallows' Eve over to J. M. DeMatteis, who was writing for Marvel at the time and created the character in the first place (at least, he created Janine Godbe).

  • @mitchellalexander9162
    @mitchellalexander9162 3 часа назад

    Ten Years to Ruin an Industry.
    Ten Years to wait for the Day it gets forcibly taken back Piece by piece.

  • @lightingdragon4143
    @lightingdragon4143 4 дня назад +4

    Marvel comics started going downhill since 2012. Also seriously the avengers and every other hero should be hunting down and arresting the X-Men for all the atrocities they committed during krokoa.
    I understand and agree with killing when necessary but the X-Men went way to far and the fact that they were enjoying and relishing in slaughtering people is messed up, the X-Men are straight up irredeemable villains.
    And even after the krokoa era, they showing no remorse for everything they did.
    Also I absolutely hate Captain Marvel, she is not a hero and is just as bad as the X-Men.

  • @JJJawor
    @JJJawor 11 часов назад

    No one visits the fictional world (comics, books, movies) to have hardcore ideology, uninspiring, fake and lazy stories thrown to their faces. That's Marvel/DC reality after the start of year 2014. It would be easier if these modern "creators" just started their own company where even by making original and some rip-off characters make everything exactly like they wanted with no "legacy" attached to it. Hard to say if - they can't or don't want to create a new world with new possibilities. Easy to make themselves and their potential audience happy.

  • @lobaoguara2332
    @lobaoguara2332 4 дня назад +2

    Dude, can we stop inventing new versions of the characters and work on what you have already invented? This contanstant of new things without working nothing loses its grace quickly. How are these characters going to become cool things that people like if they don't put in the effort to make them spectacular or stand out? I genuinely hate to see how much Marvel teenagers don't want to stand out at all and just be version 2, 3, 6 of other characters.

  • @roberterwine7650
    @roberterwine7650 5 часов назад

    2014 , Marvels last good creative year . Ms. Marvel and Spider -Gwen first appearances and series !

  • @reads.
    @reads. 4 дня назад +1

    Great video Wes, hit the damn nail right on its head!!

  • @stevehnatko1050
    @stevehnatko1050 4 дня назад +1

    That was about the same time Marvel was either losing or fucking over their best writers for lesser ones

  • @geekyviking3673
    @geekyviking3673 4 дня назад +1

    Jed McKay is a terrible writer. Overhyped and overrated. None of this surprises me. Both Marvel and DC have nothing new to offer. Absolute DC looks like total dreck and Marvel, not content to rest on their laurels, looks like they want to out do them on the garbage front. None of this shit will sell and they'll cancel them and then come up with some other lame trash that won't sell. Rinse and repeat. And Sam Wilson is Sam Wilson. He's not Captain America and he never will be.

    • @davidblyth6886
      @davidblyth6886 2 дня назад

      Youre too old for comics and are a racist

  • @docblade3270
    @docblade3270 4 дня назад +3

    Those people see superheroes like colorful action figures in a box, that they couldn't play , but now can, and use them without any knowledge nor respect, just like your little sister with your GIjoes!

  • @jonnjones8263
    @jonnjones8263 4 дня назад +1

    Guys when are you gonna get it? Comics are dead. Have been for years. These people are never gonna change. It's not gonna happen. Drop them and move on.

  • @patrickmoreau7592
    @patrickmoreau7592 4 дня назад +1

    Another bunch of books I will probably not buy but at least sneer at

  • @glarepherson
    @glarepherson 4 дня назад +1

    House of ideas? More like house of recycling... so the new legacy chatecters they keep forcing on us have never worked so instead of doing a cool champions book they give us younger versions of gender swaps??? It's like not even funny anymore..do they not see their own sales numbers? Is no one looking at the sales? No one? Not one person at marvel? No one has a job to look how things are selling? Did they get rid of that guy? It's weird ...did they become a non profit some where? They aren't into selling comics? What's going on ?

    • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
      @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

      Simple: Disney is providing the money for them to keep going, just so long as they keep pushing "The Message" in their comics

  • @BadNewsYouNeedToKnow
    @BadNewsYouNeedToKnow 4 дня назад +1

    That art looks plain as fck!!! Like Jim Lee’s layouts!!!!

  • @CryogenicGamer
    @CryogenicGamer День назад

    Tbh I would like to see more Gwenpool comics. I really do like the character. But the problem is also that I’m not sure that I would trust any of the writer currently in marvel.
    Hopefully one day they’ll give her character a good run. I really think her power is cool.

  • @richardhunter132
    @richardhunter132 4 дня назад +1

    Marvel still have 7 titles in the top 10 for August, so they must be doing something right

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 4 дня назад

      Marvel always dominated the collectors side of the business. If their books are bad, but make top positions, there is a chance that readers left the market, while collectors stayed. I don’t read their books, so I don’t know of their currently bad or good, but this is a potential alternative explanation.

  • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
    @MatthewLoh-ru1mw День назад

    Indeed. It's more of the same from 2014/2015😒😔. So much for "BRAND new ideas and storylines" 😅

  • @slyc5920
    @slyc5920 4 дня назад +1

    WES IS GETTING UPSET!- Seinfeld reference

  • @natemachado9113
    @natemachado9113 4 дня назад +2

    A V X IS NOT AWFUL. Despite how much Wes pushes this message he is wrong. Both storyline wise and sales wise. The build up was great and everyone loved that story. I know I was there to sell it and read it. And every time he says this I am going to counter the argument. But that is like best time...Brubaker...Remender....Fraction...Bendis....go read it for yourself. Now what came after AvX...that is open for debate. Falcon Cap....no really don't want it. The uber violent stories...well sorry to say to Wes they actually do sell. So you may not like the idea, but the fans do. Seen that from the register too. Also Elektra doesn't sell...but this kind of story will have some legs. Go look at sales on previous Elektra series...they don't move unless mega star is attached to it. Champions...yeah that looks like total garbage. It has failure written on it. Try the originals or let it go. No other versions sell at all. WFT20.

    • @carl0maldonado46
      @carl0maldonado46 4 дня назад

      I thought it was weird when he said Sam Wilson as Captain America was a bad idea.. I don’t think he remembers Rick Remender wrote the title and a lot of people were excited.. I don’t think he was reading comics at that time.. he said he got in comics ten years ago and those stories happened ten years ago 😂😂

    • @natemachado9113
      @natemachado9113 4 дня назад +1

      @@carl0maldonado46 Probably not. But Sam really never works. Only small audience wants it. And it always goes back. I want Steve Rogers plain and simple. Even watching Endgame now I hate when Steve hands shield to Sam and not Bucky. Bucky is only one can do it, and even then its interim at best. Brubaker showed that.

    • @kidicarus2215
      @kidicarus2215 4 дня назад +3

      AvX might sell, but it still sucks. The same is true of Civil War.

    • @natemachado9113
      @natemachado9113 4 дня назад

      @@kidicarus2215 Yeah you're dead wrong. That's your opinion...which I don't put much stock in. I am done with this as I am not going on and on about it. You and your super minority can go live in that world.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 4 дня назад +2

      Av X sucks.Terrible characterizations in everywhere.

  • @SCBShacks
    @SCBShacks 4 дня назад +2

    Martha Murdock?

  • @ssinberg
    @ssinberg 2 дня назад

    Are you going to admit you were spectacularly wrong about how "absolute batman" would be a bomb because of marketing? Advance orders 250k

  • @choostopher5018
    @choostopher5018 3 дня назад

    WTF is wrong with Disney-Marvel? Why they can’t write “heroes” don’t something heroic I can’t understand but fark them anyway I have My Hero and Skybound Transformers

  • @b-dog3131
    @b-dog3131 3 дня назад

    It seems that Hollywood isn't learning that lesson either, buddy. There's a trailer for a female version of John Wick right before your video starts! Oh yeah, quick question: Is Spider Boy White? I noticed they never tried that with Miles. Somebody had to say it!😂

  • @aqdrobert
    @aqdrobert 4 дня назад

    Marvin: Wendy, remember when we offered Super Friends PSA's?
    Wendy: Now our heroes tell fans WHAT to think, not HOW to think.
    Booster Gold: Well, I don't think...
    Guy Gardner: Of course you don't.

  • @charlesharrison1907
    @charlesharrison1907 4 дня назад +1

    I’m firm believer that Marvel knows these fail ideas aren’t working and they are just hey it’s marvel it will sell. That’s not the case, they understand that they need to hire better writers and editors.

  • @WTSD850
    @WTSD850 4 дня назад +2

    Seriously make the original champions work before you make a new team

    • @streetfighteringrid2446
      @streetfighteringrid2446 4 дня назад +1

      The Original Champions Team : Ghost Rider Ice Man. Angel Black Widow Hercules.

  • @Halfrican-Jones
    @Halfrican-Jones 3 дня назад

    I consider AVX 2012 to be the worst comic crossover event in Marvel history, it was a horrible ending to the Endangered Species/Utopia arch of X-Men for the sake of separating them from the popularity of Spider-Man and The Avengers, no respect to Hope as a character and proving she was just a deus ex machina in Messiah CompleX, disrespecting the decades of lore the X-Men went through saving the world and the multiverse itself.
    AVX is when I finally understood mainstream comics are nihilistic to fully care for or find purpose in rereading, because some writer some day with too much power will while away the decades of history you poured into caring for these stories. The standards need to change, the fact that early 2000s Ultimate Spider Man omnibus’ and a majority of X-Men pre-Astonishing are the only ones I’ve kept in my collection is saying a lot. I’m considering Hickman’s Ultimate Spider-Man, but besides that, I have no interest investing in the mainstream universes.

  • @steventhomas2856
    @steventhomas2856 4 дня назад

    Bendis was NEVER the writer he "used to be". Or he's still the writer he always was. If you get my drift.
    Powers: superhuman formerly known as Diamond becomes policeman.
    Alias: superhuman formerly known as Jewel becomes private investigator.
    And this was at the BEGINNING of his supposedly illustrious career with the Publishers Formerly Known As The Big Two.

  • @TheUnseenFenianHand
    @TheUnseenFenianHand 4 дня назад

    None of these comics are remotely interesting.
    McKay on any team books? No thanks
    Pak on a random BS mini series? No thanks
    Erica Shultz on anything? No thanks
    Steve Foxe on anything? No thanks
    I won’t even read any of this crap for free on the MU app.

  • @jamesroose4340
    @jamesroose4340 4 дня назад

    If only Human Cloning was allowed....I would bring back Dave Cockrum at the very least just to get some decent X-Men stories.

  • @timothymarkin4481
    @timothymarkin4481 4 дня назад

    I actually liked the Sam Wilson Captain America books from a decade ago. They had some fantastic artists like Stuart Immonen and Daniel Acuna, and the stories were interesting enough. The last Sam Wilson Cap book, though couldn’t hold me for more than six issues. I’m not against the ideas of giving mantles to other characters , esp if a relationship exists between the old guard and the new (nobody cried “woke” when Jim Rhodes took over for Tony Stark as Iron Man in the 80s). Just give us great writing and artists as talented as Immonen and Acuna and I may spend my money.

  • @kellydart1948
    @kellydart1948 4 дня назад +8

    I remember when the same ideas werent recycled every decade.

  • @incubustimelord5947
    @incubustimelord5947 4 дня назад

    If I was writing an all-new Champions Of Los Angeles comic book, I would just ditch the inferior all-different team of super heroes that they are using now and get the superior first founding members back from the original comic book from the 1970s.
    That super hero team (Angel/Archangel (Warren Kenneth Worthington III), Iceman (Robert "Bobby" Drake), Hercules (Herakles), Ghost Rider (John Blaze/Zarathos), the Black Widow (Natasha Romanoff), Darkstar (Laynia Petrovna), and Dr. Bill Foster (formerly Black Goliath and Giant-Man)) would have all of them join forces in L.A. again in order to fight against Pluto (Hades) who is trying to conquer all of California, using the current economical, political and social upheavals in that failed American State to enslave the denizens of Los Angeles.
    The Champions must fight against Pluto who is using the crazy homeless people, drug addicts and drug dealers, and gang members to create an evil army that will attack and invade the areas of the city that are not yet affected by the crime-ridden places that are ruining the city.
    With the increase in deaths of the human population and with the senseless, wholesale destruction of the city, and county of Los Angeles itself, Pluto's power as the ancient Greek and Roman god of death will increase. Hercules cannot allow his arch-enemy, his evil uncle, to extend his power through domination, and expand his influence through genocide. Even the current illegal foreigner crisis is helping him accomplish his ambition easy and fast.
    The Champions have only one goal to achieve: protect the "City of Angels" and save its general human populace from Pluto at all costs. But how can these six costumed, super-powered super heroes and super heroines effectively go off on great adventures, and professionally fight crime when the current corrupted and greedy Governor of California State is using the power of his State's government to go after the Champions?
    The Los Angeles Police Department and the local, city government, in the eyes of the law, see the professional adventurers, professional adventuresses, and professional crime fighters as nothing but vigilantes who are just as much of a problem as the professional criminals are, if not even more so because they are several superhuman beings and superhuman mutants. With various costumed, super-powered super-villains running amok unfettered across the land, the Champions have an uphill battle and are beset on all sides.
    Marvel Comics should be writing a comic book story just like that, with super hero characters that are actually worth reading about. The current unimaginitive comics and super heroes featuring the Champions do nothing to increase popularity, and do nothing to increase sales. Disney has made Marvel into something pathetic and useless, without any meaning or purpose.

  • @doommega
    @doommega 3 дня назад

    comics is in great need of new writers, artists, editors, and EIC and in most cases YOUNGER BLOOD to push this thins thru LOL

  • @White_Tiger2169
    @White_Tiger2169 4 дня назад

    I didn’t like neither the book or movie version of Stardust.
    I like both the movie and book version of The Princess Bride. Something that you neglected to say was that the William Goldman wrote both the book and the movie.

  • @ryanwilliams7639
    @ryanwilliams7639 4 дня назад +1

    I was going to give uncanny X-men a chance but it’s already having a crossover 7-8 issues in. I don’t want to buy multiple books, I don’t care about these events. Uncanny X-men is also pushing a group of new characters. If I wanted to read about kid mutants then I would read exceptional x-men.

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 4 дня назад

      Where has brand recognition gone to, it used to be New Mutants for kid mutants?

    • @ryanwilliams7639
      @ryanwilliams7639 4 дня назад +1

      @@davidgantenbein9362 yeah. I feel like they are using a lot of titles just to push these newer characters. Like tricking us to buy a comic thinking it’s about the character we like and we get some crappy new character we don’t care about for the majority of the book.

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 4 дня назад

      @@ryanwilliams7639 That has definitely become a major issue for buyers. But it’s also a trap for them as those buyers that lost trust will not buy purely on covers/characters anymore. The more an industry forces buyers to invest time into research, the less likely becomes impulsive buying and the amount of sales goes down (not everyone will invest so much time into research). Bait and switch is ultimately a strategy that forces buyers to adapt and adapting often means buying less.

  • @ashikmd.rashid6284
    @ashikmd.rashid6284 4 дня назад

    Marvel CAN fu"*k me if they go back to mid 2012(the last overall perfect era; when larger than life characters were aspiring, bada$$, relatable but NOT preachy).

  • @donovanlarsen7982
    @donovanlarsen7982 3 дня назад

    I thought we all realized that putting Carol in any place of power was a bad thing way back during Civil War 2. Also, Wanda and Magneto already dealt their history. They had an entire arc dedicated to that *only a few years* back. Why do writers keep ignoring whenever the Scarlet Witch deals with her issues.

  • @destro47
    @destro47 4 дня назад

    I thought the DC Absolute Universe looked like the dumbest thing I'd seen this year. Wow. Well played Marvel, you made me look stupid.

  • @TheOnlyOpie
    @TheOnlyOpie 4 дня назад

    Disnee - "We're out of classic animated movies to remake, and jist when our fans were begging for more. Hey Marvel, start redoing your crappiest stories, but remember, put a chick in it, and make her lame and gay."

  • @Deathwing2001
    @Deathwing2001 4 дня назад

    Elektra is not Daredevil, Matt Murdock is. Enough already Marvel 🤦‍♂️