Megyn Kelly TODAY Discusses Florida’s ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law | Megyn Kelly TODAY
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2018
- A man was fatally shot after pushing a man in Clearwater, Florida in a dispute over a parking spot. Due to the “stand your ground” law, there might not be a reason for him to face charges. Megyn Kelly is joined by NBC’s Stephanie Gosk, MSNBC legal analyst Dan Goldman and Amy Holmes of PBS's “In Principle” to talk about the controversial law.
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Megyn Kelly TODAY Discusses Florida’s ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law | Megyn Kelly TODAY
That was the worst transition ever!!! Whoever approved that should be fired. “A man was murdered but let’s talk about my dog” 😳😳
Really...
I'm sitting here like
WHAT THA...
SHE CRYING whole panel has a emotional support moment..🤔
Our stories are always just topics to them on the t.v rating show
Nothing more nothing less
America we cry for a animal
And second guess humanity 🤔👏
Really you cry over a dog but not for a father who died in front of his baby boy.... wow
Just shows the true color of certain people. The dog got more love and sadness for passing than the father who passed away right in front of his 5 year old. Welcome to Emerica/ #maga
Rmcm1984, A thug is dead, no big loss. No loss at all really, other than a bunch of future violent crimes that will now never happen.
Cedric Peppers, No despite all their spin and PC BS none of them can muster any tears over the thug who died because he committed a violent battery on another person.
A discussion about a dead human being is followed by a 3 minute tearful story about a dead dog? No wonder she lost all of her journalistic credibilty...
The dog is noble, the animal that got shot dead because he didn't have reasoning wasn't. What kind of "father" pushes an elderly old man in front of their child? Why should I feel sorry or have sympathy for a woman whose ignorance and inability to acknowledge that she is wrong got her husband killed? Should I feel bad that they brought it upon themselves?
Sharee Mincey it's a joke that you think that the dead shot animal in Florida deserves more respect than an animal that owes us nothing helping us?
Stoned420Guru Is the shooter a policeman? No, he is not. He is a civilian that approached the car knowing he had a gun on him. He was trying to pick a fight because the gun he was wearing gave him the balls to do so...
Gregory Smith he is a civilian with the right to protect himself, weyher he was trying to pick a fight is not clear therefore not a fact. What is a fact is that whoever parked there, shouldn't have. The driver was confronted and decided not to cooperate in being civil. I mean that is why we have laws for handicapped persons, because we are civilized. At no point should a verbal argument escalate to physical violence, so again, the old man was talking to the driver. The husband, not knowing what's going on and physically assaults the OLD man. Mind you, he is old, and he just got pushed to the ground by a big strong black dude. Yes I can say he would fear for his life, because for him, he was doing what he thought was right. At no point was the old man wrong, he did everything correctly, but you'll argue that he shouldn't have shot him but that's easy for you.
Gregory Smith by the way whatever it you're saying is simply opinions with no actual points of what happened.
She’s painting a picture like if he was shot BECAUSE of the Parking spot.
It's unfortunate. But when you decide to put your hands on someone else, you open the door for a whole lot of unfortunae possibilities.
Exactly 💯
He should have never put his hands on the man. Just because they parked in the handicap parking spot.
Sad fact!! People need to always be cognizant that people are unstable, crazy or in this case don’t know the law. Hence, you risk losing your life. The guy was eventually found guilty of manslaughter. Still, you are dead.
Dan Goldman is misstating Florida Law. The statute reads that there must be "reasonable belief", it does not mean "feelings." The belief must be reasonable.
You must be an old goat.
Ashton a man who has already violently shoved you to the ground and is standing over sounds like reasonable belief to me.
@@jenniferferguson1517 Wrong! That is why Drejka was convicted.
Good grief.
The dog gets more love than a man taken from his family.
In fact she was even laughing at the start of this segment.
Disgusting.
SHE DID HER PART! DISTRACT PEOPLE FROM THE MURDER
Another low IQ thug off the streets. Who cares. At least the dog probably had some more civility.
I agree. Pathetic.
So you grieve for every person you never met who dies daily? Man how do you handle doing that millions of times a day and keep enough sanity to comment on YT?
because good riddence to the assaultive pos.
They showed more sympathy for the dead dog than the man murdered right in front of his kids.. smfh
You caught that as well... What a world we live in.
don't go physically assaulting people!!!
A lot of people do now days....
New Jack Swing - Dog was innocent. The man was not (he violently assaulted the man and had at least two prior violent felonies on his record). If you're asking law abiding people to shed a tear for dead thugs you're not being realistic. After all, thugs certainly don't shed a tear for you.
yep
2:16
Two lies right there from this "Legal Analyst"
1. Florida is not unique, Most states have "Stand Your Ground" laws
2. George Zimmerman did NOT use Stand Your Ground as a defense.
Dam lie
Thank you.
he said most people are familiar from that law due to the Zimmerman case, where is the lie?
Hold My Balls it’s implied that the Zimmerman case was decided on stand your ground, which is a lie often touted by the liberal media
No he said a lot of people became familiar with that law due to that case. Stop making assumptions based on your liberal phobia.
Wtf is this show? I haven't seen Megyn Kelly since she left Fox, and now she's narrating news stories as if she's explaining it to a room of children and sharing sob stories about her dead dog. This is weird.
I was surprised when she starting about her dog, too!
Oh we have Faux watchers in the house. No wonder the comments section feels like a KKK rally.
Nikki Justice 748 A dog's life is worth more than any person's life, black or otherwise. Most people care more about dogs suffering or dying than humans they don't know.
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You just don't understand the love of a dog. I was crying because I have an 8 year old dog and I know one day she won't be with me. She is all that I have.
Trump owns her. Poor gal
Not saying this was justified but when you attack someone like that you're asking for it.
Apparently none of these people wouldn’t get scared or feel threatened after being violently pushed to the ground?
Wow...I thought she was going to say a "real" family member died...What a joke!
All of you are missing the big picture here! YOU can not put your hands on another human being period......not saying he should have died, but looking at his history he obviously did not learn his lesson.
The initial aggression is to violate the mobility of the handicapped driver. As a society we have agreed to set aside parking spots for the disabled to improve the quality of their lives. In another interview the mother said that it is her right to park anywhere she wants to. This demonstrates either ignorance or arrogance. Many people who have an understanding of the intent of handicapped parking spaces are justifiably angered by abusively misusing that parking spot. Once upon a time, there was such a homogeneous culture against abusing the disabled, that confronting those who violated their preferred parking was not seen as aggressive, but heroic. The second act of aggression was a definitive battery against a person who was heroically confronting a callous act of oppressing the rights of the disabled. It is here that I will inject an assumption. It is a fair assumption that most Americans do not walk around in public while carrying a concealed firearm. Statistics bear this out. I believe that Mr. McGlockton assumed that Michael Drejka was unarmed, as most of us would. had he any belief that he could be shot in this confrontation, he would almost certainly not have committed a battery on a person who was merely vocalizing the majority position against oppressing the disabled. It was only when the gun was revealed by a man in an otherwise defenseless position on the ground, did Mr. McGlockton cease the aggressive pursuit, and begin to back up. In the presence of two adults who had demonstrated a willingness to act with brazen defiance of established laws to protect the disadvantaged, and to immediately pursue a course of violence against those in support of equality, Mr. Drejka pulled the trigger. Mr. McGlockton's confidence that America's anti-gun policies have disarmed the general public lead him to a fatal miscalculation. It was in fact most likely only a similar but opposite assumption that lead to Mr. Drejka's actions as well. had he been unarmed, he may not have had the confidence to confront lawless family in the commission of crime. It could very well be argued that the dis-arming policies of the 21st century lead to a man's assumption that his violence would go unchecked. After all, most victims of violence are left helpless to counter an attack in their own defense, which is all too common in the media, and a valid assumption of the aggressors of the American public.
Not taking sides here at all. A person was assaulted and feared for his life. Very touchy subject. The attacker should have never escalated the situation. It is self defense. If you are in Florida and a CCW holder, you have to the right stand your ground if you fear your life is in danger.
It is sad and unfortunate for both parties. I am responsible CCW permit holder. Think twice and walk away before assaulting someone.
because I am a fl. ccw holder I dont go around picking fights with people in parking lots either
Char Char Binks yes he’s not handicap either
ALL STATES SHOULD BE, "STAND YOUR GROUND" STATE'S & I BET THE CRIME RATE GOES DOWN WHEN CRIMINALS REALIZE THEY CANNOT GET AWAY WITH THEIR CRIME! NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO PUT UP WITH BEING ATTACKED & THAT IS WHY ALL PEOPLE CARRIED GUNS IN THE EARLY DAYS! DON'T COMMIT THE CRIME IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE REPRECUTIONS.
That girlfriend will forever regret pulling into that spot.
She will forever regret to just ignore the guy and just move the car.
Elana Carter Evil keyboard cowards
The deceased had a felony charge for aggravated domestic battery (presumably against her). So I wouldn't put much hope on her learning something.
she will regret getting out of that car and yelling at the old man and making her man attack him ,poor old man has to live with this now,
She probably regrets all of it.
I do belive if you hit somebody do no expect the same hit back. You do not know the other person . So it can be worse . Everybody it is different.
Good point to make I agree.
How about not getting aggressive with strangers and putting them in situations where they are forced to react to your aggression
yup all the bitched in the comments are making me lol
Real Life dont physically assualt someone if you arent ready to die. considering the guy didnt touch her, the black man was put in his place, aka the dirt lul. the guy started an argument, not a fight. shut ur mouth and join your homeboy in the ground pls
Americans are horrible. Thank God we do not have these crazy people in my country. I hate the way these Americans call us all ALIENS.
Here's what actually happened. Man A has conversation with a woman. The conversation can be described as a verbal argument or a debate. Man B physically attacks man A. ( note man A had no idea if man B knew the woman. Man A didnt see the assault coming as can be seen in the video ). Man A falls on the ground immediately pulls out a gun aims and shoots man B. Man B dies in the hospital 30min later. The end. Everything else is designed to make you emotional. These are just the facts.
This all could have been avoided it the woman followed the law to begin with and park in a normal spot, when guy yelling just move to another spot, or not start to get out of car to escalate matter more as boyfriend comes out.
Blacks in Florida stand your ground.
Real Rap get the strap
Real Rap the last time a black woman in Florida stood her ground she got 20 years
larry clark yep and she was defending her phone from someone with a restraint order. This nation is wicked to it's core
This law was written by whites for whites at the expense of blacks. A black person would get charged. A black woman got charged for defensing herself against an abusive boyfriend.
serge lefleur like all your their other laws
1. Don't park in handicapped parking spots unless you are handicapped
2. Don't assault people
3. Live a bit longer.
dont be a vigilante, leave that to the cops/
The pusher was not walking away but repositioning himself. How do we know that the man that got shoved to the ground wasn't hurt? The guy that got shot was able to walk away!
The man was attacked and was about to be attacked again. I have yet to hear the girlfriends answer to why she did not move the car when she was informed she was illegally parked in a handicap parking space.
I'm handicapped and in a wheelchair. This is horrible. If someone is illegally parked in a handicapped place, let the police handle it. Photograph the license plate and call the police. No life is worth losing due to a parking violation. Period.
The guy dying had NOTHING to do with a parking space. He's not the police, he should have let it go. Maybe he has a disabled relative? Maybe it was a bad day, who knows, but nothing he did was illegal or violent. The black man died because he assaulted a stranger without provocation. PERIOD.
joe mahaffey Maybe he has a disabled relative? He can't use the placard for his use. That's illegal.
I'm talking about why the shooter decided to confront the driver. But ultimately it makes no difference what the disagreement was about. The man chose to initiate force against someone who was not being violent. He escalated the situation and paid with his life. The parking spot is irrelevant.
joe mahaffey Yes you are right. The parking space is irrelevant. The choice to use a gun on an unarmed person was wrong.
Nonsense. Is it your brain that is disabled or only your body? The guy was twice his size, he initiated the violence in a state where people have a legal right to defend themselves. He played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
Sorry for your loss...
Lord X _
I’m sorry the guy lost his bullet inside that thugs chest. He should sue the dead guys family for the cost of replacing that bullet.
Lord X _
Jail, for self defense? Keep dreaming. You don’t get to tell someone else how in fear for their life, they should be.
No big loss, another career felon.
My 3 legged dog thanks you🐶
Its amazing still that the reaction to dog owners dead dog is more heart felt than the topic the were discussing. This is the problem!
This is America, bro
If it was a cop on the ground do you think the cop would be arrested???
Kelly is not very good at her job is she?
Stone Colt Nice to look at though 😍
For the liberal audience, shes awesome at her job. For smart people then no...
buyerofsorts the smart people are liberals, look it up if you’re able to read.
You didn't know enough to capitalize the "T" in "the". You also didn't know enough to put a period instead of a comma after "liberals". I rest my case...
buyerofsorts I didn’t know it was a test 🖕
The black host is wrong, the girlfriend was not a nurse, if she was, she would've known not to park there.
YEAH
I don't understand the correlation between being a nurse and parking.
Hachikō she is a nurse this old cuke has done this before and a eyewitness said he was cursing and calling names with her kids in the car imagine the were white
I see! Thanks for letting me know! There is no way in kingdom come, the driver is a nurse.
Ada Ghost then keep your hands to yourself .
I’m sorry what they aren’t reporting is the man shoved was handicapped and that wasn’t just a light shove it threw him off his feet and the guy then looked like he wasn’t done until the gun was pulled. sorry for ya but if he had not of shot him who is to say that he wouldn’t have been beaten ? Or killed? I’m sorry put ur hands on someone be prepared for consequences. THIS IS SELF DEFENSE.
As soon as the woman saw here boy friend approaching she got out of the car, this was going to be a two on one fight. The guy pushes the old guy to the ground before knowing what was going on and was approaching him pulling up his pants until he saw the gun, then he stopped in his tracks and realized this guy was armed and he wasn't going to be able to continue his attack. the old guy was on the ground after be violently pushed and was fearful of being attacked again by both of them so he defended himself.
Note to self: Keep your hands to yourself.
Note to self: racist white people will jump at any chance to shoot you dead and they can get away with it in Florida
oin154 no you're not. Russian bot
obx nc so your saying it was ok for that old thug to shoot a young man? Well that blood is on his hands and he will pay for it in this life or the one to come. I hope he repents for this and acknowledges he was full of hate and that's why he did it. He took a human beings life as if it was nothing. This world is really satans domain and his children are full of hate just like him.
Stay out of people's business, don't go yelling in a woman's face about a parking space.
daBIGJuiCE619 note to self shoot anyone who tries to lay hands on me! No matter what color they are!!
It wasn't the shooter's place to confront the woman. He's not parking lot enforcement. Everything hinges on that.
Obie drier citizens arrest. freedom of speech.
Totally could have been avoided if
1. Obeyed law and not parked illegally
2. Just moved vehicle to another spot when yelled at
3. Not get out of car and start to escalate situation even more when boyfriend come out.
Freedom of speech. If you don't appreciate your constitutional rights live in CA, NY or somewhere similar.
Obie drier nonsense! It hinges on the fact that this man escalated a verbal altercation up to physical violence. That’s what it “hinges” on. Justice as painful as it may be was served.
you don't know that though. SHe could be handicapped.
Run around shooting clowns cuz your afraid of them ? That's the same as being violently assaulted by a larger stronger man for telling his girlfriend not to break the law?
Clowns are violent after midnight
She is very into herself. Talking about your dog after this, really???
The guy with the gun appears to have been looking for trouble and found it. His false bravado was boosted by the fact that he had a gun. The guy was backing away when he saw the gun, so he should not have shot him. The guy with the gun both started it and finished it. He should be charged with at-least manslaughter for instigating the situation. The guy should not have shoved him, but there is no audio as to the severity of the argument between the girlfriend and the guy with the gun, and I cannot judge a guy who instinctively defends his wife and kids. Based on the letter of the law "stand your ground" applies, but based on the spirit of the law this instigator should face charges, if the facts bear out he indeed instigated, and has a history of instigating....
The guy with the gun DID NOT start the violence, the black man did.
Big Al he did have the 1st amendment right to say it's not ok to park there.
Just because someone exercises the 2nd amendment right to legally carry a gun does not lessen their 1st amendment right to speak.
exactly
Blah blah fukn blah. Florida law says you're wrong and the man assaulted to the ground was right. Case closed.
Big Al
The dead guy had a criminal record for assault. The shooter may have a history of calling out people who park in handicap spots, but that is NO reason to shove him violently to the ground.
I am disturbed that they keep saying things like "that white man was berating....". judging by his body language he was not "berating" anyone.
robert wisehart oh.... You were there? Tell me more
Why the media keep lying? "Stand your ground law" isn't unique in FL, it is very common and being accepted in the following states: Alabama,Alaska, Arizona, Florida] Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana,[7] Michigan,Mississippi, Missouri,Montana,Nevada, New Hampshire,North Carolina, Oklahoma,[7] Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee,Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming.
The states that have adopted stand-your-ground in practice, either through case law/precedent, jury instructions or by other means, are California, Colorado, Illinois, New Mexico, Oregon, Virginia, and Washington.
This show SUCKS. It's pathetic how they totally ignore the black man wasn't a choir boy. Why bring up hearsay about the shooter, and totally ignore the actual criminal history of the victim. In addition, you stop a tape and say "look, he's backing up". What nonsense. You're talking about a nano-second. Fools.
The black man was the one standing his ground,the shooter was the attacker.
B m
Good thing you're not the sheriff or law maker.
B m .thats just insane
Wow, thank you for reinforcing ""The Bell Curve""
Found the passenger for the short bus
What's insane is shooting a man for protecting his girlfriend. But then again it's Florida,
"Stand your ground" in other words selectively protect those who we want and prosecute those we don't.
All states should adopt this law.
if the skin colours were switched we know the story would be different
Art Vandelay
Right?! The man probably wouldn't have initiated violence with a shove in the switched scenario.
Lance A. most states have it.
Something to think about . What would have happen to the man if he didit have a gun ?
I always insisted I would go out of my way to NOT drive in TX, now I will NEVER visit FL... you are taking your life in your hands.
it's nice to know liberals are here to defend bullies. also, what's the history of the deceased? criminal record? since they mentioned the shooter's past of berating others over the handicapped spot
Your Pal florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=Markeis&lname=McGlockton&fpartial=True
wow! wondered if the news networks reported on this?
Yeah and he has never done this before anyone who acts like this probably has a record or did time, caught up with him. Many states have stand your ground.
Yeah...apparently he's had a prior aggravated assault charge...as well as other offenses!!!
MASTER deBATER. Yeah but why should they report that, just like when a multiple violent felon gets shot by a cop and they show pictures of him at 14 in school photo. It just comes back to they don’t want anyone having guns and feel well it’s a trade off to have helpless victims if one thug does not get shot. I carry everyday since I was 21 stationed in VA beach in the navy I am 49 now never had any issues you have a better chance of getting hit by lighting as a CCW holder than having to use your gun in self defense.
Yup...the media and most of our govt officials are owned by anti-American interests...that utterly despise the constitution!!! They hate the fact that we're an armed and independent people...in a world of tyranny. Reagan was right...this is the last bastion of freedom on earth...and we're under heavy psychological attack!!!
Just because you can jump an older guy doesn't mean you can get away alive.
Repeal 16 So the Black guy should have been more careful. He should have Stomped the old man to death before he got that gun.
Владимир Ленин
Take me off Commy.
Repeal 16 so basically white people are allowed to do whatever they want to in Florida? The main reason I will never foot in that place.
Did he jump him or push him to the ground in defense of his family...In this racial climate is it unreasonable to think a black man may fear for his family if they're being confronted by a known hot headed white man
Repeal 16 This killer isn't elderly ... to bad the black couple wasn't armed.
Perhaps the woman sitting in their vehicle with the children who find herself being berated by a complete stranger should have 'feared for their lives' and opened fire, killing the irate, self-appointed 'parking warden'.... still 'stand your ground' right?
Tears for a dog... Zero for a human being and father? Wow
nappychef35. How are you sure ? She might be having tears for everything....just because your eyes see something doesn't mean your assumptions are correct . prejudgment of a book by it's' cover is dangerous for you and others around you....kind of like both of these guys in the parking lot.
So, Amy Holmes is not a legal expert, but she is making a legal analogy ? I bet she has never even read the " stand your ground" laws. I'm not giving my opinion if the guy was right or wrong, i am just saying why ask somebody who obvious does not know much about the subject?
Sid Snyder perhaps it was the only person they could get on short notice. Maybe they don't have that law in the area where this is filmed.
Sid Snyder lol the legal expert there is also a moron, literally said multiple factually false claims
steve b There is a big difference from playing a game, and assault, i think everyone involved handled it wrong. But no, you can't go knock someone down violently and tell them you are just playing tackle football, that is ludicrous. Would i have pulled out my firearm and shot, probably not, but i was not in this man's shoes, or know what he was thinking. It is really sad that things went down like they did, cause the whole thing could have been avoided. The white guy could ave gone inside and complained to the manager or clerk, and let them deal with it. The girl friend could have moved the car to another location instead of arguing. The black guy could have been more civil and asked the guy what the problem was, and diffused the situation. So, all parties could have acted differently and the boy friend would still be alive. I think we are losing that civility and respect for one another. and it is really sad. Just a note, the boy friend had a police record, dating back at least 10 years, that included assault and drugs.
Its amazing how these people all know how they would have reacted after being pushed/slammed to the ground. Lets do it to these people and see if any of them can remember their own name after taking a hit like that.
buyerofsorts amazing how you're not recognizing the fact that the white guy instigated the whole incident after he had already been told in the past not to by the store owner.
One has nothing to do with the other however. Amazing that you can't understand that...
buyerofsorts what are you that stupid??!!! one thing has everything to do with the other if he had done as he was told and left those people alone a man would not have been killed in front of his family.
If you are shouting and screaming racial slurs to someone's wife/girlfriend for whatever reason, don't expect not to be at least pushed. To me the guy with the gun is just a coward, and for sure it will not end well for him.
I am a small woman. I have been assaulted like that. Kicked from behind by a stranger that was trying to rob me (they were unsuccesful). I am proud to say that I did not become a murderer that day.
Why is self-defense equal and opposing force? If someone tries to attack me and I shoot him with my legally owned a gun, why is that a problem? Maybe I can’t physically stop someone from killing me with there bare hand with my bare hands. Maybe be I need stronger force.
At the end of the day......KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF!!!! If I was on the jury, he'd be acquitted!!!!!
this man attacked a man when he could have resolved this without physical contact.
David Odom the man was defending his girlfriend. This man is a murderer and a coward. He knew he couldn't fight the man one on one so like most punks he takes out his handy dandy gun.
Leeanne you sound biased. Why ok for him to assualt because he defending gf but when he defends himself he a murder and coward. Come on now
James Faerman a man is dead over a parking spot. He backed off when the gun was pointed at him that should have been enough for the gunman. They even stated that this dude hangs around looking for people to harass at the store. Yes I'm biased she. A man dies for no good reason maybe you show to.
So how do these people know what kind of discussion was going on? The assailant wasn't backing away until the gun was pulled out. If anything the guy looked like he was advancing towards the guy who was on the ground. Even if this went to court, the case will be destroyed by a lawyer fresh out of law school.
What if the girl in the car was being threatened?
How many people would trust the black man not to get violent first in a situation?
Excessive force begets a bullet.
Maybe don’t go around assaulting people??? Good god
Is assault a capital crime? Does it deserve the death penalty?
garrett21 maybe mind your own business and don't walk up to strangers vehicles and verbally harrass and terrorize them.
Maybe the murderer shouldn't have harrassed his wife and he should've been shot first since he was the perpetrator of aggression 😠😠
Isasiah Bradley good
That's how black people roll
They should not have parked in the handicapped spot, and the black guy should not have attacked that man. If you blind side a man and shove him to the ground, you can expect a violent outcome when he gets back up or feels threatened enough to pull out a gun to defend himself.
Don’t assault strangers! Keep you hands to yourself
This situation didn't escalate when the gun was pulled, it escalated when the guy decided to violently put his hands on another person. He made a terrible decision that simply cost him his life. The only laws that were broken was when the guy decided to commit a felony assault and when they parked in a handicap space without the proper handicap sticker.
At one point within this confrontation, the guy with the gun had to deal with the lady, which exited her car, the guy that assaulted him, and some other dude that was in route, but fled when he saw the gun fire, This guy was lucky that he had a gun, I'm sure he would have been beaten severely had he not had a gun.
The aggressor only backed away when he was confronted with the gun.By then it was too late. He could have confronted(verbally) the man that was yelling at his lady and still stood up for her honor/protection, yet he felt that violence was his best course of action. I guess he was wrong.
Uber sodat You ever thought the man was trying to protect his family? The guy was verbally and physically to close to his car and thought he was trying to car jack them so he protected his family. Any other state that is Manslaughter. That unjust law needs to changed so more lives can be saved. Plus the guy who killed that family man was a local vigilante thug who brandished his gun twice before to other customers for parking in the same spot. So sad.
jc: Actually...none of what you said was true. The white guy stayed several feet from the car the whole time...and there is zero evidence that he ever BRANDISHED a weapon in the past!!! (Checkmate 1:51)
Well, someone is lying....Liberals do a lot of lying...you know fake news type lying.
Black man was protecting his girlfriend you would do the same if someone was yelling at yours if he was white and man that shot him was black he would be in jail you all know this don't act like things have changed that much
"I felt fear for my life is okay for cops but not citizens?" He backs away but the man on the ground was faced with not only the one who assaulted him but the woman had got out of the car and the 3rd guy coming out of the store approaching which means 2 and possibly 3 on 1. Just because you can shove someone to the ground doesn't mean you should or have the right to nor does it prevent the consequences for your actions.
Stop physically assaulting others and you won't get shot.
The lawyer got this completely wrong. Florida statue 776.012 (2) States "A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be." So, three criteria have to be met: 1.) A reasonable fear of 2.) Imminent threat of 3.) Serious bodily harm. Of course that is subjective but the alternative "self defense" law is equally subjective and based on "reasonable" fear. The lawyer essentially states "anyone can just claim they felt fear after the fact and get away with murder" which is hogwash. Again, the fear has to be justifiable and reasonable. Hardly an objective panel.
Why did she hijack the topic with a story about her dog. Reporters should keep their opinions to themselves.
Finally someone stood up for us cripples.
Robert Cornelius what about your president who has been abusing the cripples? You love him? Evil people.
LMAO!!!
Oh my god 😭😭😭
Robert Cornelius you're ok with someone defending you with death over a parking space?
I'm moving to Florida thank God we get to protect ourselves
Think!!!you teach your kids it's OK to park in these handicap parkings and teach them to argue about it and to push and old guy like that!!! 🤔no, no, no, no!!!
G Douglas and the guy was a strong 28year old
Stop stop stop stop stop...... breeding!!!
And that’s why he’s dead hahaha , it’s typical those kids grow up with no dad anyway
coolboy ninja
coolboy ninja this guy is 44 years old
I do not believe Florida can prove he did not fear bodily harm or death.
She could get sued for calling him the local nut. He is not saying anything without saying but keep your hands to yourself.
stand your ground. I got mine. 4 black teenagers assaulted me. almost lost my eye. now I always carry, two pistols, I won't be attacked again.
Charles Crowell would u be less likely to carry a gun if they had been white teenagers? If the reason for the gun is u were attacked then y mention their race. Please don't say white kids never attack people, the is not true.
Saying they were black makes u sound racist. Fyi I'm white
Charles Crowell . How does describing his attackers make him sound racist?
James Faerman because he called them teenagers so he is totally racist.
Matthew Laspina people say I'm a racist, no just a realist. to cry rascism is the last bastion of a scoundrel.
I am a Florida concealed carry holder. I am sorry but you are only to use deadly force to STOP a threat. As soon as he pulled his firearm, the threat stopp d and stepped back. I am sure this guy will be charged
Jose Bauzo Stand Your Ground means: If you are in fear for your life, you have the legal right to use deadly force to terminate the threat.
The white man was violently shoved to the ground. Not just pushed. He was literally forced to the ground. Which, in Florida, is felony assault. So, now he is on the ground, likely stunned and obviously in a position of weakness. His assailant does appear to back off momentarily, but we don't have audio and cannot hear what the black man is saying.
The greater point being: If the threat still exist and you are in fear for your life, under Florida Statutes, that is all that is necessary to meet the criteria of the law.
Key words: Fear For Your Life.
Even if the black man appears to back off, he is still a threat in the mind of his victim. The use of deadly force in this instance, is indeed justified.
Could the white man just have waited? Perhaps, but he was knocked to the ground violently. In my view, that meets the Stand Your Ground Law and the use of deadly force. If you really are carry/ conceal in Florida, you ought to review your states statutes regarding this matter.
NO WAY JOSE, JUSTICE FOR KATE BABY
Agtsmirnoff he did not lunged forward. So he does not deserve that
bro dough Wrong. He is advancing on the man he slammed to the ground. That man was just violently assaulted, thrown to the ground and sees his assailant advancing. The time between hitting the ground, getting his bearings, pulling his gun and firing was MAYBE 2 seconds. We can sit and second guess all day about how we would've handled it, but we weren't in it. He did what he needed to do to neutralise the threat and the law agrees.
Jose I agree with you: her lawyer will definitely prove that imo.
I've looked at this over and over. Honestly , i want to be against this old , white , need to mine his business jerk. But, I can't disagree with his actions. I promise i wouldve done the same thing if someone came out and pushed me to the ground like that. What if he didn't have that gun . how far would the other guy went. ..
This is the weirdest transition I've ever seen. From a very serious case to talking about a dog!?
I know right....Canine Lives Matter equally i guess,,,,SMH
So the victim shoves the man to the ground right in front of his child who was walking behind him? Classy father...
delray30 yes he did the man was backing away
delray30 he wasn't thrown to the ground he was shoved. Look it up they are different verbs. Shove is pushing. throw involves more physical action. And yes it could have injured him greatly. An adult would have gotten in he car and called the police. This man behaved in an irresponsible manner and let his temper take over
Purplemetall007 classy in the fact that his father was defending his mother from being verbally harassed and attacked by some stranger in a parking lot.
oh you mean the classy man with his finger in the girlfriends face through the car window shouting at her and threatening to shoot her while her boyfriend is away? Is that the classy guy you are talking about?
@Hafs
Come on with your stupid race-baiting, It is the man who got shot that escalated it to physical violence in the first place by going straight to violence. Don't infantilize yourselves, violence is gonna be met with violence so do not instigate it, learn how to SEETHE for yourselves and other peoples safety. The old man will probably not get to just walk away with this and he will regret it.
Violent men die violent deaths, all very sad especially for the kid, kids without fathers don't do well.
You do a segment on a man being murdered in front of his kids and you think this is the appropriate time to talk about your dog that just died?
z t she is just reporting the news
"I'm not a lawyer " should be been the only thing that uneducated woman said....obviously you're not smart enough on the situation, that's why this man isnt under arrest...dont put your hands on people and this wont happen
For an explanation between Florida's Stand Your Ground Law v. Self Defense: ruclips.net/video/YZf3ThKJP4Q/видео.html
It's self-defense! You're in the heat of the moment, you never know the black man could've had a gun as well or he could've kept striking the man on the ground.
Watch the video. The black guy was backing away. The shooting was a cowardly act.
he attacked a old man hes dead was it worth attacking a old white man ,
Brian D the man wasnt even old
Interesting that your comment was that the "black man" could've had a gun instead of just the other man...the perception of the big scary black man is my issue with this law...never mind that the guy with the gun was the instigator of this incident!
Native722 But he didn't and he backed off/ away once the other man brandished his firearm. Two wrongs don't make a right. If the father was white he wouldn't have shot him.
The litmus test needed to meet the criteria for Stand Your Ground was met.
The black male violently shoved the white male to the ground. Which under Florida Statutes, is felony assault.
The white male was forced into a position of weakness. He is on the ground. Presumably stunned. He observes the black male standing there and even though on video it appears the black male backs down, he really didn't. Instead, the black male does a half turn, but then turns back to his victim, who is still on the ground. In that brief second or two, the white male pulls out his gun, points it at the black male and discharges one round into the black males chest. The black male, then turns to run back into the convenience store.
Stand Your Ground literally means just that. If one is in fear for their life, they have every legal right to the use of deadly force.
The white man was on the ground. The black man was still on his feet walking within mere feet of his victim.
I don't know about any of you, but me, I would've done exactly the same thing. The key words: In fear for your life!
I might add, not everyone can defend themselves physically. As in boxing, martial arts etc. Not everyone can physically handle the stress of a fist fight. The white man obviously was in fear for his life and after the violent way in which he was shoved to the ground, his assailant still capable of more attacks, he did exactly what needed to be done.
The black male. Well, only he knows why he acted the way he did and he's dead!
G Douglas White coward?
The black guy was the coward and anyone supporting or agreeing with what he did is also a coward!
The white male did exactly what he should've done given the circumstances of his assailants blind sided attack.
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Pete Wahkoowah fear for your life? Virtually no one dies after being shoved to the ground, not at that instance or after.
John Smith That is not true. There are many instances where someone shoved, not pushed, but shoved another person to the ground causing everything from concussions to permanent brain injury and broken vertebra to actual death.
If you actually examined the video carefully, you can plainly see the force the black male used on the white male to literally knock him straight to the concrete. Such forces are enough to cause the above type injuries or death depending on how fast, how far, how hard one strikes the surface of the ground. I was blindsided by a skateboarder once, while standing with my bicycle. The force of which, knocked me to the pavement and nearly broke bones. The other guy was no where near as hurt and this was an accident and not intentional. The greater point. The black male shoved this white male violently to the pavement. The white male was obviously unprepared and likely stunned. Fearing for his life, he drew his gun and discharged one round into the black male.
The key words: In fear for my life
If you cannot understand that, perhaps you need to experience, first hand, what its really like to be blind sided, knocked to a hard surface violently and have your assailant stand over you while you're on the ground in a position of weakness. Maybe then, you will regain a fresh perspective of why one placed in such a situation, if armed with a gun, might react in the manner that the white male in the video did.
You sir are a coward. I have my CCL and never would I behave acted in this manner.
Please!
It goes to show that Superman was not only allergic to Kryptonite but lead as well.
Girlfriend still does not regret parking in the handicap parking spot. This is shameful! She learned nothing. Here's proof ruclips.net/video/iDtzofAUSJI/видео.html
The guy on the ground is a human being too....
He WAS a violent human, who used physical violence to solve disputes. Now, thankfully he’s dead.
the violent bully is still alive... he verbally assaulted that woman and her bf protected them and paid the ultimate price for it...
The shooter was looking for a fight.
Marcus Jones There is no such thing as Verbal "Assault". Lol
He could have just as easily....AND LESS violently......"protected" them by asking what the disturbance was about, rather than immediately going to violence. The woman was not physically threatened nor attacked.
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you, too
Another one bites the dust
not only the law is stand your ground, but if he didn't shoot, he would have been arrested for threatening.
this ended good , because the pusher is dead , (he is violent) and the gunman is in jail.
There is definitely a loss here. A man lost his bullet, deep in the chest of a thug criminal. The man should sue the dead guys family for the cost of replacing the bullet.
Troll lol get a life loser
Black people get mad at this!!!but don't push or punch nobody like that and respect handicap parking lot!!!
No Da the shooter was white!!!
Of course not. That would not be a problem.
coolboy ninja smh
Yea because somebody needs shot over a parking spot. Dude you’re insane if you think this is ok.
coolboy ninja shut up
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How did the conversation transition from self-defense laws, a man's life, to crying about a dog? I am a dog lover myself, but Megyn Kelly has money to just buy another one.
First off why is this guy walking around carrying a gun, especially when just going to the corner store.
Exactly what I thought. He's def a mentally ill man, just look how he carries himself...not normal.
Its crazy to me how easily accessible guns are to get, but this is the states, so it's not a surprise. There should be thorough background checks before anyone is able to purchase a weapon.
I carry my gun everywhere except when I sleep. Why do u think cops carry a gun? Lmao
Mallory McWhirter Open carry?
Mallory McWhirter good ol florida thats why
No matter the law or how we feel about this petty and sad scenario. We can never justify taking another’s mans life, EVER!!!
Sure we can...
buyerofsorts I take it you’ve never experienced a loved ones life being “stolen”. You can continue to ACT all cold on the computer but God Knows you would be screaming for justice! Just to satisfy the pain of a lost loved one and If you already have then your heart is flawed! Nothing can feel that Void....
"Stolen"? They guy was attacked by a savage animal who was a loose cannon. He took him out fair and square. Yeah, I'd probably be screaming for justice because I would be involved emotionally which I am not now. See?
delray30 Not with Unarmed people getting killed.. If you can put this in perspective, why comment?!?
Brian D I’m black and I don’t have a lick of hate in me, not even for you while you on my post defending Murder. I don’t think all whites are bad I don’t think all blacks are bad. It’s all based on individuals and their personal beliefs and values. Either way it goes, it still doesn’t change the fact that stealing another’s mans life is justifiable! You or anybody else can’t tell me different. If your heart telling you that’s ok, then you heart is flawed and biased....
that "lawyer" should explain disparity of force....
The black guy deserved the room temperature challenge, he violated the white man's space by doing what you see on the video.
The one thing that no one is talking about is that stupid woman started getting out of her car once she seen her man coming out of the store only provoking the situation even more. All three are to blame.
She couldn't wait until the next segment to bring up her dog?! WTF?
I know right....Canine Lives Matter equally i guess,,,,SMH
Just like the white house...we must start dealing directly with the elephant in the room..mental illness in America.
I just came here from The Young Turks about the same story and the comments section is just a complete 180 spin
Besides the video being so crazy, does ANYONE think Megan Kelly would be reasoning like this if she was still on Fox?
You have to have a tag to park in a handicap spot. Stand your ground across America makes a more civilized country. Megan has come so far in the last few years. 😁
Sadly a situation that could have been provented. Think before you put your hands on anyone and think before your shoot. The problem nowadays is short tempered and aggressive people. This could have been solved by simply holding a conversation and parking in the right spot. Lesson learned for everyone.
All three were in the wrong. They all need to be punished.