Early Medieval Eurasian Nomads were not Pure “Nomads”

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  • @MLaserHistory
    @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +95

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    It should be pronounced "steppe" not step because it's spelled steppe not step. It is not a step you take nor a step you build for stairs. It is the steppe in the world, the steppe area. Come at me! This is an actual hill I am willing to die on!
    2:00 The Bulgars emerged as a unified entity very closely before or after they where subdued by the Avars. The "Bulgarians" where formed by the unification of some kind of a Bulgarian core and the Kutrigurs, Utigurs and Onogurs tribes.
    2:10 The Khaganate, even though not officially split into two halves until 603, due to its size was mostly governed as if it was split into a western and eastern halves since its creation, so from an administrative stand point this split in 603 did not have that much effect on the Khaganate.
    2:35 The Western Turkic Khaganate became to also be known as the ten arrows.
    3:01
    Rashidun Caliphate, 632-661.
    Umayyad Caliphate, 661-750.
    Abbasid Caliphate 750-1258.
    I only update the map of the Caliphate when I mention it in the chronological overview not at it's exact date of dynastical change. This is mainly because I am too lazy to track all the changes on the map during this time and focus mainly on just displaying the changes in the video which I am currently talking about.
    3:13 Tang dynasty also briefly controlled some Persian areas and the Amu and Syr Darya rivers.
    5:06 They allied with also other tribes under Kangar control not just the Kimaks. However, the Kimaks where the most important ally hence I only mentioned them.
    5:50 Also, a lot of the sources are in Chinese (and in China) or Arabic and, therefore, are very hard to access by western scholars like me.
    11:30 The Uyghurs where between the Selenga River and the Yenisey River.
    Video scripts with all my sources are available for free on my Patreon.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад

      @@Sk0lzky true

    • @kendsplaining
      @kendsplaining 3 года назад +4

      imagine if english was phonetically consistent lmaoo

    • @fdumbass
      @fdumbass 3 года назад

      We don't pronounce it "step" though, we pronounce it "stepp"

    • @ferrjuan
      @ferrjuan 3 года назад +2

      Every time you say “Steppay” I hear “Pepe” lol

    • @ChristesII
      @ChristesII 3 года назад +4

      Going directly off of conventional spelling in English as your primary justification is a little crazy. That said, "steppe" is apparently directly borrowed from German, where they do pronounce the e, so I can live with it in this case.

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 3 года назад +140

    "oversimplified history of the medieval steppe."
    Me, not remembering the changes seen 5 seconds ago :)

  • @lamnaa
    @lamnaa 3 года назад +93

    It's also important to remember that steppe people do not wander the grasslands at random. They would travel well-worn routes, making sure their herds always had fresh pasture. If you wandered into an area where someone else had just been your herds would starve. They might not have a fixed home, but they'd have a home range.

  • @SamAronow
    @SamAronow 3 года назад +291

    I think the Eurasian Steppe offers a very interesting parallel to the Sahel in West Africa. Both were geographically convenient for overland trade, but the lack of major mountain ranges to stabilize the climate made fully sedentary, predominantly-agrarian society impossible. So in both places you have these wildly overlapping cultures split between nomadic traders/herders and merchants in cities like Timbuktu or Samarkand. This is enticingly relevant to a series of videos that I'm preparing.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +69

      Interesting. During my research for what defines a nomad a lot of the books drew parallels to the nomads of Africa, although, they always emphasized the extreme importance of the horse in the Eurasian Steppe which was pretty much unparalleled anywhere else in the world. However, I can definetly see these overlapping lifestyles happening in other parts of the world as well.

    • @tonuka6257
      @tonuka6257 3 года назад +8

      Interesting comparison!

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow 3 года назад +27

      @@MLaserHistory The camel opened a lot of doors in West Africa.

    • @EdgarStyles1234
      @EdgarStyles1234 3 года назад +4

      Imagine comparing mud huts dwellers to the silk road

    • @EdgarStyles1234
      @EdgarStyles1234 3 года назад +3

      @@acolyte1951 there's also the giant Buddhas

  • @inept_
    @inept_ 3 года назад +611

    your pronunciation of the final E in steppe gives me life

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +402

      It's a cunning plan on my part to trigger pronunciation Nazis and so drive engagement on my video and thus please the algorithm gods.

    • @tonuka6257
      @tonuka6257 3 года назад +53

      @@MLaserHistory Seems like it's working perfectly

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 года назад +24

      @@MLaserHistory Ah, I get it now! So crafty.

    • @sodinc
      @sodinc 3 года назад +17

      @@MLaserHistory you did it
      Степь, obviously doesn't have "e" sound at the end

    • @vladimirskala
      @vladimirskala 3 года назад +7

      @@MLaserHistory I saw through this ploy right away. Knowledgedia has inured me to English mispronunciation.

  • @emre9797
    @emre9797 3 года назад +105

    Finally, he remembered his RUclips password

  • @sarubet8725
    @sarubet8725 2 года назад +41

    In Turkish we have the term "konar-göçer". Konar means settle and göçer means migrates. They had different places and builds for different times of the year. Modern equalivent of this is moving to your summer house when the summer holiday comes.

    • @fallendown8828
      @fallendown8828 Год назад +2

      Aynen sadece yazın yazlığa gitmektense hayvanlarını otlatacakları yaylalara gidiyorlar

  • @tonuka6257
    @tonuka6257 3 года назад +164

    The eurasian steppe seems such a foreign land from the western viewpoint, and yet like all parts of the earth it is so rich in history. I really like the way you explain the nomadic lifestyle by expanding on what one might already know and dispelling false notions one might have. Also, that map work in the beginning is incredible. Excellent Video overall, great watch

    • @LukeVilent
      @LukeVilent 11 месяцев назад

      Problem is - many people like myself in the Eastern Europe also view nomads as "them". At school, we are taught that there was a confrontation and cooperation between "them" and "us". But as I dug just a few generations into the history of my own, "purely Russian" family, I realized that since my grandma was on the border of "Wild Field", in a village that two hundred years prior was inhabited by "Tartars" - I realized that I am at least 1/4 of "them". That the "stone baba"s, the Nomadic idols, are as much if not more a part of my blood heritage as onion-topped churches.

  • @d0nutwaffle
    @d0nutwaffle 3 года назад +77

    As a slav I normally applaud efforts to have words look like they are supposed to be pronounced but "steppey" was so funny to me I found it hard to actually concentrate on the topic of the video :D

    • @zelinamarks5397
      @zelinamarks5397 3 года назад +1

      We call it steppe in America but we don’t always get foreign pronunciations right so I am here checking if maybe I got it wrong all these years. Good to know I did have it right lol.

    • @zelinamarks5397
      @zelinamarks5397 3 года назад +2

      Steppe as in step without the Ey that is…

  • @ProvencaLeGaulois
    @ProvencaLeGaulois Год назад +5

    Simon Berger, a young French historian, is pushing for this revisioning of Eurasian nomadic history over here in France :D suffice to say he's being met with some resistance here. I hope this view gains more ground, thank you for your work.

  • @ernstachterhof6481
    @ernstachterhof6481 3 года назад +41

    Saray-Batu (the capital of the Golden Horde) was one of the largest cities in Eurasia (excluding the cities of China and India). Not surprising, due to the fact that nomads always looted the resources of the settled, and we all know how many richs the Golden Horde received from Eastern Europe.
    I wanna say that this is a great video, Yan. It's very rare to see an objective historical content! Greetings from the steppe nomads, from Kazakhstan! 👋😁

    • @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
      @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC Месяц назад

      Majoriry of taxes in Golden Horde came from China though.

  • @jonnyadkins451
    @jonnyadkins451 3 года назад +26

    what inspires you to research certain areas of history?

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +21

      I'll talk about that in my upcoming 100k QnA video.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 года назад +19

    Magnificent video! There's so much information that I'll certainly have to watch it multiple times to really understand and remember all of it.
    Although, I had to pause it and go google 'steppe' to check the pronunciation, because I've kept thinking "had I've been wrong all this time, thinking that the -e is silent?". 😅

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +26

      Yes, yes you have been wrong all this time with all the other people as well!
      Language changes over time and I hope to start a revolution. It's written steppe, and it should be pronounce steppe!
      Vote "YES" for "steppe" on article 24 this election!

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 года назад +3

      @@MLaserHistory My theory is that the English speakers just wrote it this silly way to not confuse it with "step", as in "one small step for a man".

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +5

      @@Artur_M. Exactly. Therefore, it should be pronounced differently as that word as well, so there is less confusion.

    • @shryggur
      @shryggur 3 года назад +6

      @@Artur_M. a huge (galloping) step for a man (on a horse), a huge steppe for mankind!

    • @ekn_38
      @ekn_38 3 года назад +4

      @@Artur_M. It's called Steppe in German too so...

  • @cliffordjensen8064
    @cliffordjensen8064 3 года назад +7

    Nice video with a lot of good points. I think you are right about them needing villages and cities to make things like compound bows, swords, and whatever else they needed. Farming the steppe was probably a difficult proposition with rainfall being fairly sparse at times. They might have wanted to be farmers, but droughts forced them back into herding.

  • @panagiotismagos3649
    @panagiotismagos3649 3 года назад +3

    Incredible video, really enjoyable, I hope it gets the attention it deserves!

  • @thewarriorfrog
    @thewarriorfrog 2 года назад +3

    Turks indeed had a decisive role in triggering historical major events like the Migration Period, Crusades, Age of Discovery as well as ending the Middle Ages with the conquest of Constantinople, fall of the Roman Empire.

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito 3 года назад +58

    I just learned that some people pronounce _steppe_ as "steppeh."

    • @alexmuller6752
      @alexmuller6752 3 года назад +4

      well, there already is a word pronounced "step"

    • @martinsriber7760
      @martinsriber7760 3 года назад +9

      In other words they pronounce steppe as steppe...

    • @BurnBird1
      @BurnBird1 3 года назад +4

      @@martinsriber7760 No, they're pronouncing it as "steppeh". If it were pronounced "steppeh", it would have been spelled "steppeh" or "steppey".

    • @martinsriber7760
      @martinsriber7760 3 года назад +5

      @@BurnBird1 Do you hear any fucking H?
      English ortography is outlier, not norm. He pronounced "steppe" as it would be pronounced in many languages.

    • @martinchudada1
      @martinchudada1 3 года назад +1

      @@martinsriber7760 Is it really relevant what the word sounds like in any other language? He's speaking English.

  • @gododoof
    @gododoof 3 года назад +16

    Steppe nomads are so mysterious to me, I'd like to learn more about them.

    • @fallendown8828
      @fallendown8828 Год назад +2

      It has been over a year now, did you finally learn more about them? If you did, i am proud of you and if you didn't, you still have time to do so

  • @randomvintagemap160
    @randomvintagemap160 3 года назад +1

    your videos are always a treat!

  • @adrianwebster6923
    @adrianwebster6923 3 года назад +4

    An illustration of nomadic use of sedentary materials are the artworks of the scythians. at least some of these were supplied by artisans from neighboring greek cities. Exposure to this style then impacted the artwork produced for more local customers.

  • @Vektordeformacio
    @Vektordeformacio 3 года назад +2

    Do not worry if it is long. The video is awesome

  • @volvoxfraktalion5225
    @volvoxfraktalion5225 3 года назад +2

    stepE. Fantastic video! Tnx!

  • @Kobbize
    @Kobbize 3 года назад +5

    Where you get the map at 14:43, showing that silk road was passing through the north-east of Carpathian mountains ?

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +18

      We have undisputed finds from the Avar Khaganate, such as yellow glazed pottery whose productions style originated from China or griffin style belts which originate from the central steppe, that show the Khaganate definetly had trading connections with the steppe and the silk road going through it. The most logical way for this trading connection to go through would be the Zmeplen passes or the Danube.
      This trade connection, however, fell silent after the fall of the Avar Khaganate as the area's trading shifted to be centered more to the west rather than the east.

    • @Kobbize
      @Kobbize 3 года назад +4

      @@MLaserHistory thank you for answering :)

  • @Zquirrelthing
    @Zquirrelthing 2 года назад +2

    every time you pronounce the E a small part of me withers away and dies

  • @accruenewblue
    @accruenewblue 3 года назад +3

    Finally, a new video

  • @nichydenoob
    @nichydenoob 3 года назад +2

    Yay new video!!

  • @ShahjahanMasood
    @ShahjahanMasood 3 года назад +1

    When M Lazor uploads. It is a happy day.

  • @cheesy7472
    @cheesy7472 3 года назад +4

    Here’s a drinking game for you, take a shot every time Laser says khanate.

  • @Jesse_Dawg
    @Jesse_Dawg Год назад +3

    Please more videos on the nomads

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  Год назад +2

      Probably a video about the Avars will come out at some point this year.

    • @Jesse_Dawg
      @Jesse_Dawg Год назад

      @@MLaserHistory This is awesome news! Thank you for all of your hardwork! Please remember to take breaks and rest :]

  • @tristansoendergaard7867
    @tristansoendergaard7867 3 года назад +3

    RETURN OF THE KING

  • @somerandomguy___
    @somerandomguy___ 3 года назад +10

    As a Bulgarian it's a little weird and funny knowing there once was another Bulgaria on the volga river

    • @yusufs1878
      @yusufs1878 3 года назад +8

      Well there is still one around that region in what is today called Chuvashia. They are the ones who migrated nord. They still speak a Turkic language and they are predominantly orthodox christians.

    • @BurnBird1
      @BurnBird1 3 года назад +5

      It's basically the same Bulgaria, just that it moved to the balkans and got rid of its Turkic origins.

    • @pyroshrimp4073
      @pyroshrimp4073 2 года назад +1

      @@yusufs1878 late but Tatarstan too

  • @kaushiksheshnagraj7176
    @kaushiksheshnagraj7176 3 года назад +2

    Usually I don't comment on anyone's video but your content is superb so I am commenting on your video. Wow this video is fantastic. Every line is a point. Your channel deserve more subscriber. I regularly watch your videos from 6 years. As a old subscriber I want a help from you that please make a video on skanderbeg because I realised that only you can describe it nicely. As I know you from the old days, I think you will definitely make a video on this topic

  • @AB-gt6iv
    @AB-gt6iv 3 года назад

    Thank you for this very interesting video. I like how you cover niche topics.

  • @khomypigeon
    @khomypigeon 3 года назад +4

    take a shot everytime M. Laser says khaganate

  • @SacredDaturaa
    @SacredDaturaa 3 года назад +9

    There's an interesting passage in FW Mote's "Imperial China 900-1800" about the Inner Asian nomadic lifestyle:
    "[Inner Asian pastoral nomadism] is an advanced form of social organization, the preference of peoples whose forebears probably had practiced agriculture. [...] To those reluctant agriculturalists the alternative of nomadism offered more than did the hard life of growing wheat and millet in arid regions. The Inner Asian core area offered conditions that permitted the highest development of the potential in nomadism, sustained by its wandering herds of cattle and sheep and the use of camels and horses for transport or war. Only under such conditions which to them represented failure would those nomads settle down in one place long enough to scratch out and harvest a summer's crop."

  • @GeneralCalculus
    @GeneralCalculus 3 года назад +4

    Me after wikipedia journey that started with article "Old Turkic script": "There's so much interesting history that feels like it's talked about very little".

  • @silas__3994
    @silas__3994 3 года назад +7

    I respect your pronounciation of steppe, although it weirded me out at first.
    This is how it is pronounced in danish and german as well. (with the "e" at the end)

  • @WTFisDrifting
    @WTFisDrifting 3 года назад +18

    All nomads were not nomadic. They were all semi- nomadic. Summer and winter camps at the very least. Nobody truly wonders aimlessly. That got you killed

  • @CourtneySchwartz
    @CourtneySchwartz Год назад +2

    All hail steppe history! I’d watch 20 million more of it even. ❤

  • @thehussiteking
    @thehussiteking 3 года назад +3

    Take a shot every time Laser says "Khaganate"

  • @mustardjar3216
    @mustardjar3216 3 года назад +6

    Turkish people be like: ahh yes, my ancestors

  • @alialahmad4329
    @alialahmad4329 3 года назад +4

    I never got how a fleeting defeated people who have just lost a major war mange to destroy an aready existing empire that they fled to

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +10

      Losing of a a war over the hegemony of a polity was more often than not a tactical retreat to an area with a weaker opponent rather than an all out defeat.

  • @Confucius_76
    @Confucius_76 4 месяца назад

    Great video! Very well presented with good maps, making a complex subject somewhat easier to understand! Pretty sure its pronounced 'step' though

  • @aviglozman
    @aviglozman 3 года назад +22

    Drink every time he says "khaganate".

    • @slappy8941
      @slappy8941 3 года назад +1

      I think I died lol.

    • @victorhugofranciscon7899
      @victorhugofranciscon7899 3 года назад +1

      Would get drunk in the first minute of the video lol

    • @BurnBird1
      @BurnBird1 3 года назад +2

      I'm suprised he didn't pronounce it as "Khaganateh"

    • @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
      @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC Месяц назад

      I drank all of kumis in nearby convenience stores. Will do as you say the moment the stores get more kumis.

  • @Toktobay987
    @Toktobay987 2 года назад +2

    greetings as crimean tatar turk we are all turks xiongnu(asian hun) and europan hun descent also golden horde,bulgari,khazar,avar,hunnic empires and western göktürk were oghur turkic(proto tatar,oghuz)

  • @Critt_Ari
    @Critt_Ari 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tonyukuk wasn't a general primarely, he was more of a statesman like al-nizam-ul-mulk of the Seljuk Empire.

  • @thewarriorfrog
    @thewarriorfrog 2 года назад +1

    The Turks were considered as the best warriors due to their horsemanship and skill in archery.
    Modern Asia, 1400-1750: Cavalry, Guns, Government and Ships (Bloomsbury Studies in Military History). p.24.

  • @robertortiz-wilson1588
    @robertortiz-wilson1588 Год назад

    Interesting, thank you!

  • @vincentcleaver1925
    @vincentcleaver1925 3 года назад +2

    I enjoyed all the step-ahs

  • @theMOCmaster
    @theMOCmaster 3 года назад

    Very awesome video, I loved the map even if its bound not be exact

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 Год назад +1

    how much do these apply for the Scythians though? what about the even earlier Cimmerians?

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz 3 года назад +14

    "Sex century"? Best century no doubt. ;p
    (Seriously: that's what I understood you said instead of "6th century", hopefully I won't me mercilessly censored for a silly comment).

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +8

      All your comments from now on will be doublechecked by a team of writers who will take a vote on whether to allow it to appear in the comment section.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 3 года назад +2

      @@MLaserHistory - I can't blame you, honestly. XD

    • @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
      @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC Месяц назад +1

      I lived in Scotland for a year, was weird when I heard women say sex instead of six😅. I once bought food with order numbered 666 and heard the cashier pronouncing it exactly as I expected 😂.

  • @borisdejong8962
    @borisdejong8962 3 года назад

    Awesome video 10/10

  • @mojungle3054
    @mojungle3054 3 года назад +1

    11:50 yurt suburbs. So cool

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +2

      I know right! I had no idea that existed before starting work on this video.

  • @vladimirskala
    @vladimirskala 3 года назад +4

    You've done the impossible with this video.

  • @thewarriorfrog
    @thewarriorfrog 3 года назад +8

    Avars were not Rourans bro
    other option to discuss is a historical and cultural - but not linguistic - continuity; this would imply a language shift from the Mongolic-speaking Rourans to the Turkic-speaking Avars at some point of their history.
    In parallel, both disciplines suggest that at least some of the European Avars were of Eastern Asian ancestry, but neither linguistic nor genetic evidence provides sufficient support for a specific connection between the Avars and the Asian Rourans.
    Savelyev A, Jeong C (2020). Early nomads of the Eastern Steppe and their tentative connections in the West. Evolutionary Human Sciences 2, e20, 1-17.
    You ask us also in your epistle: "Of what people, of what family, and of what tribe are you?" Know that we are descended from Japheth, through his son Togarmah. [In Jewish literature Togarmah is the father of all the Turks.] I have found in the genealogical books of my ancestors that Togarmah had ten sons. These are their names: the eldest was Ujur, the second Tauris, the third Avar, the fourth Uauz, the fifth Bizal, the sixth Tarna, the seventh Khazar, the eighth Janur, the ninth Bulgar, the tenth Sawir. [These are the mythical founders of tribes that once lived in the neighborhood of the Black and Caspian Seas.] I am a descendant of Khazar, the seventh son.
    (Khazar Correspondance (Khazar Correspondence / King Joseph’s Reply)
    The 6th century historian Menandros Protektor states that the language spoken by the Avars is the same as that of the Huns. Assuming that language is one of the factors determining the origin, it can be argued that the Avars were a part of the Oghur Turks. [36]

    • @chuekinsiu4667
      @chuekinsiu4667 3 года назад +1

      Magyars was also the family of Turks.

    • @thewarriorfrog
      @thewarriorfrog 3 года назад +5

      @@chuekinsiu4667 They are Ugrics bro not Turkics

    • @chuekinsiu4667
      @chuekinsiu4667 3 года назад +1

      Bulgars may be relatives of Turks.

    • @thewarriorfrog
      @thewarriorfrog 3 года назад +5

      @@chuekinsiu4667 Yes Bulgars are Turkic people of Oghur type

  • @CC-yx2rt
    @CC-yx2rt 3 года назад +1

    I’m not much of a medieval fan, but I knew I’d be entertained.

  • @ZecaPinto1
    @ZecaPinto1 3 года назад +7

    No they were grass pirates

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +2

      When Genghis Khan rolled up to the great wall. ruclips.net/video/a27YX-ToMM4/видео.html

    • @Buydaa.M
      @Buydaa.M Год назад

      😂

    • @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
      @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC Месяц назад

      Land vikings

  • @concretetoy54
    @concretetoy54 3 года назад +31

    steppe is pronounced as step in Ukrainian language, where this word likely comes from (степ).
    other than that awesome video, as always!

    • @Aaron-pe7xk
      @Aaron-pe7xk 3 года назад +4

      he probably studied German and English, gib him a break

    • @aqxbjc5879
      @aqxbjc5879 3 года назад +8

      @@Aaron-pe7xk it's pronounced step in english too

    • @fdumbass
      @fdumbass 3 года назад +2

      @@Aaron-pe7xk Not giving him any breaks when he's pronouncing it like this as a challenge. He claims to be correct in this pronunciation, which is fine, but people with counterpoints should be embraced just as much for supporting good debate.

    • @Aaron-pe7xk
      @Aaron-pe7xk 3 года назад +2

      @@aqxbjc5879 No, other way around. He recently said he's been studying German, and in German it's pretty common to have conjugate words like in English where the only difference is where you pronounce the "e" like he does in Steppe.

    • @aqxbjc5879
      @aqxbjc5879 3 года назад +5

      @@Aaron-pe7xk ok, but it's still pronounced "step" in English

  • @williamsouth1847
    @williamsouth1847 3 года назад +4

    12:47 National Identity? That's an interesting way of phrasing it, considering the time period.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад +12

      It's an English paraphrasing of an old Turkic inscription so I don't think in this case the phrase "national identity" is meant to have the same kind of connotation as it has today.

    • @NikeBG
      @NikeBG 3 года назад +7

      Many historians and especially medievalists (from Norman Davies, through R. J. Crampton, Obolensky etc) claim that national identities did form and exist during the Middle Ages, at least in Europe. It's thus a modern myth that national identities appeared only in modern times, with the rise of the nation-states (the latter of which is indeed a modern development, but is certainly not the same thing as a national identity).
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism_in_the_Middle_Ages
      Of course, there are also ethnic, cultural, religious and various other types of identities, which can equally well translate those medieval expressions.

  • @RosierJulio
    @RosierJulio 10 месяцев назад +1

    Un video sobre los pechenegos

  • @jamesmcpherson8599
    @jamesmcpherson8599 3 года назад +3

    Steppey

  • @1293ST
    @1293ST 3 года назад +4

    steppé

  • @ABCA773
    @ABCA773 Год назад

    this must be the research I was looking for about lions

  • @akramkarim3780
    @akramkarim3780 3 года назад +3

    eurasians steppes were controlled by indo europeans for more than two millennia then the turkic and mongolians tirbes take the control , it's a big event in human history but it gets little interest by historians
    i think the reason for the domination of turkic tirbes was their use of steppe saddle and more importantly the stirrup

    • @akramkarim3780
      @akramkarim3780 3 года назад +4

      @@acolyte1951 yes but the shift in language means a shift in power even if both of theme lived a similar life and were mixed to gather
      and there was also a replacement especially after the mongol invasion because in antiquity the people from Altaï montains to the black sea were europoids but after the Huns and the Gokturks migration from Mongolia to the west the mongoloids became more numerous until they became the majority after the mongol invasion

    • @akramkarim3780
      @akramkarim3780 3 года назад

      @@acolyte1951 caucasian

    • @akramkarim3780
      @akramkarim3780 3 года назад +1

      @@acolyte1951 europoid is to describe a caucasian with light pigmentation which is mostly in europe and caucasian is to describe all europe middle east north africa and india
      the scythians in general were europeans in appearance closest to modern russians

    • @thewarriorfrog
      @thewarriorfrog 3 года назад +2

      Mongolia steppe was always Turkic

    • @akramkarim3780
      @akramkarim3780 3 года назад

      @@thewarriorfrog turkic tribes were in the west and mongolian tirbes in the east

  • @PwnEveryBody
    @PwnEveryBody Год назад +1

    Why is the Umayyad seal written backwards? It's not even mirrored, it's been written backwards letter by letter, like writing etahpilaC dayyamU.

  • @galffygergojozsef7816
    @galffygergojozsef7816 3 года назад

    nice vid

  • @boboriss94
    @boboriss94 3 года назад

    Nomads being nomadic even regarding their nomadic lifestyle

  • @pimmpslap
    @pimmpslap 10 месяцев назад

    Brain aneurysm commencing in 3... 2... 1... Steppayyyy

  • @Tacticalgamer2011
    @Tacticalgamer2011 3 года назад +1

    my man really pronounced steppe

  • @ubiozmiec
    @ubiozmiec 2 года назад +1

    Interesting drinking game.
    Drink every time you hear "Turkic khaganate" :D

  • @ferrjuan
    @ferrjuan 3 года назад +2

    The Eurasian Pepe!

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines 3 года назад +4

    Good morning, everyone! Who do you think were the most significant nomads in history?

    • @fellowinternetstranger8700
      @fellowinternetstranger8700 3 года назад +2

      I'd Say the Turks but even the mongols were really important as well

    • @tristansoendergaard7867
      @tristansoendergaard7867 3 года назад +1

      Original indo-europeans

    • @thewarriorfrog
      @thewarriorfrog 3 года назад

      Turks

    • @thewarriorfrog
      @thewarriorfrog 3 года назад

      @Ricardo Marín european nomads got conquered by turkic nomads like 7 slavic tribes got conquered by one turkic tribe the bulgars so turkic history >>> slavic history

    • @moorhuhn1959
      @moorhuhn1959 3 года назад

      The Sea People

  • @vinfacts11
    @vinfacts11 3 года назад

    Are modern day Kazakhstan & Mongolia similar to these Eurasian nomadic empires?

  • @ninjasheep7492
    @ninjasheep7492 Год назад

    Ah yes the Gawkturks of the Steppeh
    (In all seriousness though good video)

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  Год назад +1

      I have you know I am an impeccable misspronounciator!

  • @erniefernandez
    @erniefernandez Год назад

    Steppe = Step, like Shoppe = Shop. Khaganate = Con ate. Love your channel.

  • @5h0rgunn45
    @5h0rgunn45 3 года назад

    The history of a sedentary region like western Europe is like a bunch if people sitting around tables in a club. The history of the steppes is like a mosh pit.

  • @LexUniverse
    @LexUniverse 3 года назад

    once one gets over the way you pronounce steppe (that gives me creeps, seriously :D ) , very interesting video :)

  • @tasty8186
    @tasty8186 Год назад

    Now whenever I see the word Steppe I think of it as "steppeh"

  • @theartistformidablyknownas3807
    @theartistformidablyknownas3807 2 года назад

    so ghost towns and cowboys?

  • @kankuj23
    @kankuj23 3 года назад +1

    S T E P P E

  • @forbiddenmod
    @forbiddenmod Год назад

    Early Medieval Eurasian Nomads are CANCELLED

  • @LTymeEdits
    @LTymeEdits 3 года назад

    Steppe is pronounced Step, great video though! :)

  • @q0w1e2r3t4y5
    @q0w1e2r3t4y5 3 года назад

    what is a 'politi' ?

  • @dusanrakic5955
    @dusanrakic5955 3 года назад

    drink a shot every time he says Khaganate and Khangar or something on Kha

  • @kirillp.4630
    @kirillp.4630 3 года назад

    Good video, please let me help you with pronunciation next time though

  • @tmnumber1
    @tmnumber1 3 года назад

    Drink everytime he says Khaganate

  • @UNCL3_1R0H
    @UNCL3_1R0H 3 года назад +1

    As a historian who’s main focus is steppe culture in central and north Eastern Asia Excellent video, the only thing is steppe is pronounced “step” the E is silent my friend.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад

      I just like to mix it up with the pronunciations sometimes.

    • @anyakosta364
      @anyakosta364 3 года назад

      Im native to Russian and born in Ukraine Steppe maybe a foreign word to us and we say it as a Stepp
      But i like how people say it Steppeh
      Yet i very much dislike that a word
      SLAV in Scandinavian languages
      .......
      Slave is a bit better word for it the way its pronounced.....i mean
      🙄

  • @sakukullberg2697
    @sakukullberg2697 Месяц назад +1

    "Steppé"

  • @seankessel3867
    @seankessel3867 3 года назад

    This is so good but every time you say step-ay it just gets harder and harder to take it seriously

  • @patricklarm5462
    @patricklarm5462 Год назад

    The Westrern Roman Empirte did not fall, it splintered.

  • @hashimbokhamseen7877
    @hashimbokhamseen7877 3 года назад +1

    *step pe* throws me off.
    is he saying it in his native language, ore is it deliberate?
    edit: oh i see.

  • @Downey-2000
    @Downey-2000 Год назад

    All this because of the cultivation of rice .

  • @Davros539
    @Davros539 2 года назад

    Steppeh

  • @Jajang0404
    @Jajang0404 3 года назад

    Nice

  • @yogikarl
    @yogikarl 2 года назад

    Every now and then , but only few times , you are flashing in the right upper corner a year number . . ? why can you not let it run constantly , while you are talking - as a continuous reference of the year . ?

  • @nikolaipedrov9084
    @nikolaipedrov9084 Год назад +1

    Say khaganate one more time

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  Год назад +3

      Khaganate!

    • @nikolaipedrov9084
      @nikolaipedrov9084 Год назад +1

      @@MLaserHistory Ayyy, you actually respond! May the great khan and wind gods bless your channel and grow prosperous!

  • @TheBoshy
    @TheBoshy 3 года назад

    Steppuh

  • @jaca2899
    @jaca2899 2 года назад

    "Autarky"? "in circa 534"? "Steppeh"? What's your native language?

  • @Callaxes
    @Callaxes 3 года назад

    I'm reinstalling Six Ages after I finish this coment.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  3 года назад

      Never heard of it, gonna go look it up.

    • @Callaxes
      @Callaxes 3 года назад

      It's a about building and managing a clan of steppe nomads set in one of the most imaginitive fantasy worlds I've seen. You're not going to find a lot of playthroughs of it. It's not a game that presents well, but if you're willing to try something unconventional it's one of the best games there is for showing what a settled lifestyle was for a nomadic people.