I take it that LMH means Lady Margaret Hall - originally the posh one of two women's colleges the other being Somerville with a better reputation for academic achievement.
Interesting that the poem speaks of the calculus of a perfect curve and the proctor is a crippled crutch, The twelve-pane window suggests the measured pain of the old madge. The window suggests the demarcation between the Age of Superstition and the Age of Quantum Rationalism posted by the genius of Newton, Leibniz, Einstein, et al. Office suggests the infinitessimal of the individual in the Postmodern. Pheasant rhymes with peasant. Calculus was invented in 17th century to measure the flight of divine objects in the heavens.
I don't understand how she read out loud and analysed the title 'The Pheasant and the Astronomers' and then proceeded to completely miss the fact that the people in the office are astronomers, instead talking about financial projections, etc.
Because the examiner said beforehand: "There are no right answers." She was more interested in the way the applicant thought and explained herself rather than what she was actually saying.
They are office workers who become astronomers only by virtue of observation the heavenly apparition of the day-star. Astronomers don't work in offices, my friend. The poem is very very poor.
@@timmycorbitt5870 the fact that they “become astronomers only by virtue of observation of the heavenly apparition of the day-star” is an effective use of metaphor, comparing the office workers to astronomers to represent this observation (and in a very strong manner). things not being straightforwardly represented in poetry doesn’t make it a poorly written poem - it’s an integral part of how poems present ideas, using methods like metaphor, and in poetry’s beauty.
@@panjandrum.conundrum the interviewer says in the review that they tried guiding the interviewee towards talking about 'science' and 'labs', but the interviewee didn't quite pick up on it. The interviewer doesn't have to dictate the direction of the discussion. In this case, they just wanted to engage with what the interviewee thought, which unfortunately didn't go towards that point.
Grace les bahasa inggris atau bahasa yang "diakui secara Internasional" maka saya Grace kuliah di Universitas Cambridge Inggris dan Universitas Oxford Inggris."
This may not be the right place to ask this question but could our finest calculas be comparable to the coarsest curve, assuming, of course, that not all of nature's curves are perfect? I guess we don't really know...
A challenging question really. I like to think that the main appeal of nature is not so much in its symmetrical or geometrically 'perfect' beauty but its unrestricted authenticity . Our calculas and other inventions may at times be more perfect than the uneven curves of jaggy mountains or unequal number of petals in a flower but nature will always be more pleasurable and delightful than constructed and mechanical ways our life because nature is not imposed. We are at times repelled by even our own most perfect specimens of architecture or invention because it compels us to accept its monotony whereas nature (not only in the biological sense but our own pschycology. I like to think everything that is not constructed but comes from within us is nature . Be it tangible trees or untangible emotions ) sets us free. The beauty of nature is that it's liberating.
Another exercise in arm-waving - as though for a degree in market-trading And how the interviewee wields her writing instrument - as though for a career in BBC-newsreading
At 18:25 - " Let's just focus on the last 6 lines because I think we're running out of time " - and. the interview goes on for more than another 20 minutes. There was all this talk about the ' poem ' - largely unintelligible talk - and above the heads of most of us, which since we were not treated to an initial reading of the poem made us feel doubly inadequate. One wonders what the producers of this piece were hoping to achieve ; it seemed so unfocused and amateurish - the word " rambling " comes to mind. I was baffled by the unconnected use of the word ' calculus ' - not a word one expects to find in a poem - and ' a perfect curve ' - perhaps a little closer to what we might consider a subject of poetry - but in this case being linked to ' calculus ' introduces a seemingly antithetical flavour to what most of us associate with poetry. Reference was made to discussing poetry which was not well know and also ' modern ' which is a loose term meaning one presumes either it is written in the modern style [ without rhyme of meter ], or maybe just written an hour ago.
@@JamesBur Let's hope that such surety gives you comfort then - mate. A question that should be of concern to potential students, and those paying their way, is - do the latter know what Oxford University is doing ? A pure example of caveat emptor.
Your first point reflects how inaccurate you are, as if you're more interested in slander than actual analysis. The interview does not last for 20minutes after that point, it moves into the review phase pretty soon afterwards. Perfectly reasonable to tighten the focus on a specific part anyways. Also, you can easily Google the poem yourself and read along if you actually were interested in understanding their discussion. Not to mention your penultimate point again is pretty inaccurate. Of course they're going to choose a lesser known poem, so that the interviewee is likely exposed to an unseen text that they can provide spontaneous and original analysis on. Also, your final point is weird. It is not 'modern style' to write without rhyme or meter. So many older poems have been written without these features. And what is a more classic subject for poetry? It changes entirely depending on the time period / geography. So it seems like an odd point to make.
@Harold - At @4:50 the title of the poem is clearly stated , and a subsequent ( literal ) 20 second google search would give you the poem; which would then leave much of your childish, pedantic rant unnecessary. All that time you spent typing your idiotically peevish comment could have been spent on a similar time-length devoted to simply reading the poem yourself from the aforementioned Internet search.
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Love this--Oxford really takes learning to another level, versus pretty much every US college I know of. This is a wonderful resource.
US colleges, at their best, are similarly rigorous and personal.
most US colleges are garbage money making machines, bit like Australia
Nah Caltech and MIT are better
@@orugasaki Oxford is more prestigious.
This is an incredible resource. Thank you so much! I am hoping to apply for History of Art next year but this has been very useful!!
Good luck with your application Elsa!!
I'm hoping to apply to Oxford University next year- this mock interview has really helped me prepare and really see what to realistically expect :)
How did you do?:)
Was reading the poem and pausing the video so I could think of the answer. It is a lot harder than it looks! :)
wait, so whose perv is it?
Really enjoyed following along here….. I’m in…. 📚
Very helpful! I am interviewing next week at LMH for history and politics.
I take it that LMH means Lady Margaret Hall - originally the posh one of two women's colleges the other being Somerville with a better reputation for academic achievement.
Please please please do one for chemistry
I really enjoyed it ❤
Thanks
Thank you!
Thanks for video keep going 🤠 greeting from Morocco
Interesting that the poem speaks of the calculus of a perfect curve and the proctor is a crippled crutch, The twelve-pane window suggests the measured pain of the old madge. The window suggests the demarcation between the Age of Superstition and the Age of Quantum Rationalism posted by the genius of Newton, Leibniz, Einstein, et al. Office suggests the infinitessimal of the individual in the Postmodern. Pheasant rhymes with peasant. Calculus was invented in 17th century to measure the flight of divine objects in the heavens.
I don't understand how she read out loud and analysed the title 'The Pheasant and the Astronomers' and then proceeded to completely miss the fact that the people in the office are astronomers, instead talking about financial projections, etc.
Yes and the examiner seemed to go along with it.
Because the examiner said beforehand: "There are no right answers." She was more interested in the way the applicant thought and explained herself rather than what she was actually saying.
They are office workers who become astronomers only by virtue of observation the heavenly apparition of the day-star. Astronomers don't work in offices, my friend. The poem is very very poor.
@@timmycorbitt5870 the fact that they “become astronomers only by virtue of observation of the heavenly apparition of the day-star” is an effective use of metaphor, comparing the office workers to astronomers to represent this observation (and in a very strong manner). things not being straightforwardly represented in poetry doesn’t make it a poorly written poem - it’s an integral part of how poems present ideas, using methods like metaphor, and in poetry’s beauty.
@@panjandrum.conundrum the interviewer says in the review that they tried guiding the interviewee towards talking about 'science' and 'labs', but the interviewee didn't quite pick up on it. The interviewer doesn't have to dictate the direction of the discussion. In this case, they just wanted to engage with what the interviewee thought, which unfortunately didn't go towards that point.
Presiden Inggris ada 2 yaitu Grace (GW) DAN JOANNE KATHLEEN (J.K.=Jusuf Kalla juga wakil presiden indonesia) Rowling (Rolling=Diputar) FOREVER.
Could you please do one for economics or management? Thank you.
Grace les bahasa inggris atau bahasa yang "diakui secara Internasional" maka saya Grace kuliah di Universitas Cambridge Inggris dan Universitas Oxford Inggris."
Please do one for maths
Yes! Was funny witching this being a maths student myself but still interesting
3:04 30:20
This may not be the right place to ask this question but could our finest calculas be comparable to the coarsest curve, assuming, of course, that not all of nature's curves are perfect? I guess we don't really know...
shit thats a good idea
A challenging question really. I like to think that the main appeal of nature is not so much in its symmetrical or geometrically 'perfect' beauty but its unrestricted authenticity . Our calculas and other inventions may at times be more perfect than the uneven curves of jaggy mountains or unequal number of petals in a flower but nature will always be more pleasurable and delightful than constructed and mechanical ways our life because nature is not imposed. We are at times repelled by even our own most perfect specimens of architecture or invention because it compels us to accept its monotony whereas nature (not only in the biological sense but our own pschycology. I like to think everything that is not constructed but comes from within us is nature . Be it tangible trees or untangible emotions ) sets us free. The beauty of nature is that it's liberating.
Really good
15:32
Another exercise in arm-waving - as though for a degree in market-trading
And how the interviewee wields her writing instrument - as though for a career in BBC-newsreading
At 18:25 - " Let's just focus on the last 6 lines because I think we're running out of time " - and. the interview goes on for more than another 20 minutes.
There was all this talk about the ' poem ' - largely unintelligible talk - and above the heads of most of us, which since we were not treated to an initial reading of the poem made us feel doubly inadequate.
One wonders what the producers of this piece were hoping to achieve ; it seemed so unfocused and amateurish - the word " rambling " comes to mind.
I was baffled by the unconnected use of the word ' calculus ' - not a word one expects to find in a poem - and ' a perfect curve ' - perhaps a little closer to what we might consider a subject of poetry - but in this case being linked to ' calculus ' introduces a seemingly antithetical flavour to what most of us associate with poetry.
Reference was made to discussing poetry which was not well know and also ' modern ' which is a loose term meaning one presumes either it is written in the modern style [ without rhyme of meter ], or maybe just written an hour ago.
I'm pretty sure Oxford University know what they're doing mate
@@JamesBur Let's hope that such surety gives you comfort then - mate. A question that should be of concern to potential students, and those paying their way, is - do the latter know what Oxford University is doing ? A pure example of caveat emptor.
Your first point reflects how inaccurate you are, as if you're more interested in slander than actual analysis. The interview does not last for 20minutes after that point, it moves into the review phase pretty soon afterwards. Perfectly reasonable to tighten the focus on a specific part anyways. Also, you can easily Google the poem yourself and read along if you actually were interested in understanding their discussion. Not to mention your penultimate point again is pretty inaccurate. Of course they're going to choose a lesser known poem, so that the interviewee is likely exposed to an unseen text that they can provide spontaneous and original analysis on. Also, your final point is weird. It is not 'modern style' to write without rhyme or meter. So many older poems have been written without these features. And what is a more classic subject for poetry? It changes entirely depending on the time period / geography. So it seems like an odd point to make.
I googled the poem, it's a beauty.
@Harold - At @4:50 the title of the poem is clearly stated , and a subsequent ( literal ) 20 second google search would give you the poem; which would then leave much of your childish, pedantic rant unnecessary. All that time you spent typing your idiotically peevish comment could have been spent on a similar time-length devoted to simply reading the poem yourself from the aforementioned Internet search.
Studying 📖 English 😂😂😂😂😂 !!! In this competitive world 🌎 requiring top end skills, innovation, engineering, mathematics, computing, logistics.... 👌 👏
Some people still appreciate art, Andrew.
a world that requires communication and understanding above all? english is more valuable than ever.
Stfu like tell me you’re stupid asf without telling me you’re stupid asf
Will she be wearing crocs at the interview? I don't like smelly feet.