How To Chart A Song Quickly - Drum Lesson (Drumeo)
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Throughout his years of playing gigging and performing, Randy Cooke constantly gets asked how on earth he remembers all the songs he needs to play - especially when there’s little to no rehearsal time. His solution? Song charts.
Think of these as “cheat sheets” for songs. This alleviates the need to memorize every single individual part of each song and provides you with an easy way to learn a large quantity of music in a short amount of time. The main goal is to write the least amount of notes as possible, but enough so you can find your way around the song. Make your own abbreviations, symbols, or notes!
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Band mates: we need you to learn a cover for the gig tomorrow.
Me: no problem, I know how to chart songs out now.
Band mates: cool, it’s “Change of Seasons” by Dream Theater.
Me: fuck.
I would have liked to see him chart out a song he's actually never heard, cause then it would prove that you can chart out a song short hand and play it right away, with out already having it memorized.
Jimmy Griswold copyright issues. Even tho this is "educational," and falls in the loop hole.
What do you call 500 lawyers at the bottom.of the ocean?
A good start.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Nah. There's PLENTY of bands (and even labels) who would *love* their shit on Drumio and wouldn't copyright strike it.... He could do it
Gotta say, I do that all the time. Just about every new song I have to play I chart out. I now have hundreds of charts that I can refer back to if at some point in the future I need to play them again.
Haven't you ever used your own kind of short-hand to memorise drum patterns? Of course this is legit and works. I have used itwhen trying to play a song for the first time.
Look at this
ruclips.net/video/-0EBAlEqA98/видео.html&ab_channel=BrandonScott
i really like your NO NONSENSE approach to this video. You move quickly yet you are thorough. Thanks for insight
Agreed! straight to the point. Really great tips.
Agreed!!
This is exactly what i do every week. The main difference for me, is that i have the lyrics and notate on the left margin.
That's a good idea!
Pat I do that too. Then when the band comes to rehearsal and has a disagreement on the part I have the lyrics and structure in front of me. I also make notes as to where a solo is taken. This makes learning the song so much easier because the form (or structure) is based off the lyrics.
@@DrumeoOfficial hey can I get the song and the artist?
Also the instructor is ridiculously awesome!!
"oh, by the way, that guy is me" great video!
Great lesson, but I think it could have been made even better and more helpful if it had shown Randy tackling a song he didn't know, which is generally the case when you're doing this.
Look at this
ruclips.net/video/-0EBAlEqA98/видео.html&ab_channel=BrandonScott
I have my own "shorthand" as well to chart. What I also do is print out the lyrics and then chart above them where needed.
Awesome Bob. Great idea!
I LOVE THIS video! What a great way to refer back to a song if required. Was fun watching this. I will definately use your techniques right away.
super great lesson I need to start doing this, too many songs to learn! thanks drumeo and Randy Cooke!
this guy gets me excited . he is so lively
This is very similar to what I do. "HH 1/8th", "FT Ride", etc. I can read just a little but I'm nowhere close to fluent enough to quickly write out what I'm hearing. Like Pat Jennings below, I make my notes over the lyrics. This adds some time to the process because I have to find the lyrics and sometimes even write them out in Word or something myself, but it helps me not worry about counting measures. The tricky part is when the song gets to a music break and there are no lyrics to follow along to. I think this is where I adapt Randy's method.
Thank you so much for this lesson I was considering quitting drumming and this has got me excited again
Very powerful playing with a lot of energy and emotional too. Love it!
i always set up my self based on the bass and vocalist ....so what i do is i memorize the core basis of the song ...and then any change to a bridge or chorus or back to a verse ..i just extra listen to the bass and vocalist ....
I think most drummers have their own way of “charting” songs? Me personally, I do like a lot of others are saying. I’ll print the lyrics out and make notes where things will need to change, or where a fill starts and stops, pauses,builds up, etc. directly over the word where whatever needs to happen in the song. Having the lyrics also helps me memorize the song a lot faster as well. There’s no right way or wrong way to do this, it’s really a matter of what works for you personally.
From a drum language to a drum slang. :D
Well, All Good Things just got a new listener. :D
same mate
You could always just say _"No I can't play 20 songs I don't know tomorrow night. Are you stupid??!"_
But I guess that's just my style.
Excellent - good to know Im not the only one that has a 'shorthand' approach. Thanks
"that guy was me" amazing hehe love your humor :D
thanks this is what I need now I won't forget every thing and will help me on my project tune for my band
Thanks drumeo, I will try this no doubt
Great explanation. Funny thing is I can’t read drumsheets, so I’ve been writing drum parts for years, and my way of writing is pretty much the same. Thanks for the video!
Thank god I can memorize very very well ^^
buddy rich is not human dude
Drumeo...Thank you! This is a great lesson.
That was hell-a fun to watch and learn. New band for me, but I enjoyed the energy. Cheers!
Good drum notation hack :)
Wow, you're lucky. :) I find out what song it is during the intro. Feel it out from.the bass line, switch it up if it feels wrong.
Overall, I memorize the DRUMMER'S style and habits, NOT the song! That's the secret!
Example: Steve Smith likes 4 HH beats. I don't ever recall 16ths, and even 8ths are unusual. NEVER forget the big 2 floor tom.build. It's in every Journey song!
Jeff Porcaro: watch the feet. They tend to be hard. Examples, Beat it (Michael Jackson): relatively straight hands, kick on 1, 2, 3, 4 then 1, 2, 3 uh 4. Lowdown by Boz Skaggs. Better brush up on that open HH technique...also Porcaro. It's extremely smooth.
Older songs, early Rock.and roll sounds a lot like big band stuff only simpler and louder. Use the ride where you'd put the HH. NO double bass! Ghost notes on snare might come up.
Danny Seraphine of Chicago likes sets of 4s on his tom.fills...
But if you have a gig the next day and don't have time to learn the drummers style, this is a great substitute :)
Thanks for the great tips. I’m a teacher and this helped me to explain to students short hand methods vs writing out entire pieces and the uses for both. I see complainers that he “already knows the song” - who cares, if he didn’t know, it would just take a bit longer to listen but his results would be the same. Thank you!!!
I like your style of explaining - a lot of energy. You talked a bit fast for me, but pushed RW. Drumeo could have projected your charts on a board, too hard to see from the paper.
Aye.. your snare head is on upside down.
Great stuff. I love Randy Cooke.
This cuts to the chase in record time!
I'd like to see a charting system for drummers like myself who don't read music.
I know what 8th notes are and all that but I'd like to see a system that uses a different mnemonic device for describing what's happening. Closest to that that I come is to describe passages in terms of other passages that they resemble such as "fill that sounds like intro to Two Princes" or something like that. A better system exists, I'm sure.
I do that to. I don’t know that much bout rudiments and stuff, so I write stuff like ‘two flams’ ‘snare roll’ ‘crazy fill’ and so on. Works for me, especially if I’ve heard the song a couple of times.
Travis barker first time with blink 20 song setlist in less then an hour
Very helpful and impressive. Thank you for sharing!!
Super helpful! Great method to add to your repertoire 👍🏻
I practice on bowls
I have a fairly good memory. However, it's really cumbersome and time consuming to HAVE to.... this was very helpful; thanks.
This is gold thanks
Excellent lesson
As a guy that has a heart attack when looking at sheet music... this is refreshing
It's like throwing shit at the wall to see how much sticks. I'd love to see you do it with a song you don't know that changes tempo.
Thank U Very Much. Good Job Sir.
Very informative!!! Thanks man :)
Cool! Thanks for the video
Exactly what I do ! :o It's very useful :)
C'est genial merci je t'adore ............continue ....😘😘😘😘😘💕
Thank you
Randy Pro!!!SandsPerfect!!!
cool lesson....
Write a app to write the song with emoji instead of bar notes.
I usually am far more syntethic, like "Intro" - "snare fill" - "full bassdrum" - "counter time" - "chorus" ...
I've seen a shorthand like this before. Personally never tried it; don't have the experience to do so. But I'm curious. How would he handle a more complex song? If the song is busier or has tempo/time changes, how would he handle this? Just generally curious.
That beat he says is on the crash is actually played on open hi-hat though!
weird because he said its him drumming.
both methods capture the feel of that section of the song, be creative lol
O couldn't get your beat pattern..
How could I found beat of any songs any tips?
God bless you man lmao thanks for this
Ye boi, i love all good things
The only problem: if it would be song he didn’t hear before- it would actually be awesome. I can’t take him seriously if he recorded the song. His teaching fails miserably because he can’t communicate the most important concepts other people would face.
No no, sometimes the fill is VERY important 🤣
5:03 I think you are a rock drummer HAAAHAA
Super😃
Agreed!
i dont see the link to the pdf in the disc
18 minutes isn't quickly
"Literally"
Name of the song?
best 😘😘😘
Play some dio
why don't you call the insane drummer Dave Lombardo?
I’d still get confused with these charts.
Goes to show you still need alot of self esteem,I’d be a mess of anxiety even with these simple charts and I would make mistakes.
God does not look after all of us.
Looks like a fucking mess to me lol.
:/
What this song
Ready for this - All good things
"ready for this - all good things", i think.
well if someone tried to do this with one of our songs, he would need a huge sheet of paper Hahahaha...
I actually have it on my IPad, and flip pages with an AirTurn Duo Bluetooth foot pedal. works awesome. The program i use is Forescore
Great idea man, I need one of those or I'll have brain damage for the next record hahaha, cheers from Chile.
Worst notation ever. Cluttered, messy, bordering on unreadable remember you are reading this in the dark. Meh I'm gonna hold out for something better.
he was teaching concepts and principals, with a "do it the way you need to" attitude. You aren't supposed to follow exactly what he does, he's showing his version of the method, you are supposed learn the idea, adapt and apply for yourself.
Sloppiness was a result of rushing through it and using a sharpie, while also writing large to be visible to the cameras. If your handwriting is unreadable despite trying to be neat, that is your problem.
I saw Kevin Murphy had the same kind of charts on one of his drum cam vids but he took pictures of his charts with his ipad and had that set up on a stand, very easy to see in the dark.
Have you used the Nashville notation? Looks promising.
After looking at a zillion different videos with various shorthand techniques…
I’ve found nothing that works as well for me as notating the groove for say, the verse, and putting a giant 8 over it to represent 8 bars, etc.
My charts are the clearest when I have a new line for each section of the song.
Only people with the attention span of a gold fish would need to transcribe something like this down lol...
djent is totally a genre Twenty songs in twenty hours that you've never heard before?
What are you playing? Twinkle, twinkle, little star!?!
It's copyright laws. That's why. If it's YOUR song, it's free.
Ain't you a little mature for that goofy hat? I mean selling product is important, but you are a product on your own, and man, for me..that just seems...well, you get my meaning. Besides, I was taught hats worn indoors is rude.
Yo just let him live his life haha. What you wear shouldn't define you, maybe he just likes wearing it or has a bad hairdo. And that's what you were taught but some people might not have been. No hate or negativity, just let people live their own life